I did hear that management would actually go through media uploaded by CC to see what is in demand , so keep up the good work, upload more critiques about WuWa , more critiques = more improvements
Alright, I think changing the pity system right now is not a very good choice. Sure, they will earn more money, but that will make it harder for players to get their desired characters, especially free-to-play players. Also, they are already making 20mil-30mil each patch, and that's already huge. Before Wuwa, Kuro used to make 10m below. and yes I also do want Kuro to succeed but money isnt always the way, it's so sad that many people only look at the money the company is earning to see if the company is succeeding, sometimes it's the trust of its player base too. other than that I think the other takes were good, especially the rewards being increased
What trust will do when they can't earn money?? Most of the player's in pgr are f2p and only whales make some contribution to their revenue. They already have weapon banner gurranted and that's already a very big step from their part. It's better this way, atleast they won't go bankrupt in upcoming years and keep making games in future..
I feel like its probably a bit too early for skins atm- I'm expecting the wuwa team to also make skins sometime in the future but i feel like that would come a couple patches after 1.2? and possibly when they start rerunning characters? i feel like those are probably a good time to drop skins into the game since they'll probably have passed most of the optimization work :3c but until that day comes, please let me cry over ONLY pgr's skin- kuro makes such pretty skins i cant dEAL WITH THEM 😭😭
its easier to focus on a single element in PGR since their gameplay is basically an isolated environment. They dont have to work on a lot of things so they can just focus on things that actually matter to the game itself. Gameplay, Story, even so their story only recently got better with the cinematics.
Gacha is a huge part. But man, the genshin/HSR/wuwa model is sooooo bad. Characters are a huge part of gacha enjoyment, they're new with interessting kits; it gives you new goals with gear/skill upgrades, you learn to play them etc. THEY. ARE. CONTENT. And when 50/50 exists on top of the pretty low pulls per patch, more often than not you're going to have to skip two banners before you get enough to pity one banner. That is terrible, and atleast this doesn't happen in PGR for low spenders/f2p. You don't need to retain Hero rank in PGR, or
I blame hoyo for this. Which sucks cos they have a much better system in HI3rd which they made even better recently (pgr's is still better but hey its still way better than the genshin model). Now every single gacha game is copying genshin's system.
1:40 You forgot extra 60 from dorm and after 4th anniversary, serum recovery limit will be increased to 240. That's 120 more serums but it's almost impossible to get permanent serum in PGR which I think don't matter cuz dailies are more than enough anyway. 3:05 I just want to point out that the amount of waveplates required to claim overworld boss reward, weekly bosses and tacet fields is also 60 which seems a bit unfair given that there's no guaranteed upgrade in WuWa for getting better substats 8:55 Okay so I agree with that cuz I have lost three 50-50 in WuWa in a row and the amount of wishes to get these characters were never less than 135 for me. Please just shift 50-50 from character banner to weapon banner or just make character banner a 100% at lower wishes around 90 or 100. I'm really tired of these 50-50. There's no point to go for weapon if you're already broke on character banner (Like I am 🙂) 14:32 WuWa really needs good music. The music during second phase of Crownless was superb. I'd like to listen to more soundtrack like that during boss fights. Btw nice video man. It's actually a good comparison.
that low invest what u said is not really the low invest. (most like arca or a overinvester) ss3 not always needs(depends on unit or some time not worth to go for it by future plan). also not all characters need 2 reso on weapon(only amp needs 2, tank and dps only need 1.) voucherable units (specialy amps) is sss. so 22(2/3) 112+cubs the low invest. at least me some times ss3 is just overrated, mostly enable ppc starts or wz rots with a minor dmg up on sub-dmg sourse, but not nessesary on competitive play (at least me). im not dolphin so idk how achivable that invest what u said, but ppl know.
Yeah for sure, like I said PGR is a good f2p game if you don't care about PG or WZ. I did forget to mention some amps are SSS obtainable that's my bad. But I was more saying that "PvP" styled gachas are a trap for competitive people Every little dmg increase counts and generally SS3 with 2 resonance is what you want (in a over generalised sense)
@@shishou_kacchan I mean if you overly care about leaderboard ranking of gacha games, regardless what gacha it is you're going need to whale and most people who cares about it generally have alot of money to burn, for us F2P or mostly F2P, as long as we can pull for the char. we like and can just clear the end game content barely its a win really. (As long as its not direct PvP between players its fine for most F2P, but once you've introduced direct PvP for F2P ex. Counter Side its not fun for F2P and especially to those who only buys monthly subscription also hate if the rewards for pulling is tied in direct PvP if i remember CounterSide PVP rewards was the currency for pulling? don't remember). Im mostly F2P (monthly BC) in PC most of the time in 10% ranking, WZ bounces back in between Leader & Hero, Norman i can clear it okay takes a while though as i need to remove the buffs of the last stage (and my Un don't have much investment and most of my S rank are just SS), only CR is the BS end game which requires heavy investment of char. because of DPS check. Atm im also playing WuWa, in terms of gacha still prefer PGR cause i rather play many different kind of char. in Action RPG game than caring about leaderboard, that's why PGR is still my main gacha than WuWa, and in WuWa i will only pull for the char. that is overtly OP especially main DPS.
Yup I agree for the most part. It was more of just a warning to people that may just go all out when they shouldn't. There are tiers to it like E7 is really bad for the competitive scene where you throw money. And yea I like PGR a bit better still but that's probably because like what you said there's still more variety of gameplay in PGR. Though I'm sure over time Wuwa will have more different and varied units
I need help I can't launch this game on the Epic store I stood up for like 6 hours trying to figure it out looking at videos doing what people are telling me to do this game is impossible to Launch anybody have any ideas on people still going through the not launching problem where it's running but it won't show
Oh, no of course I'm not comparing it to 1.0 pgr, this is just a list of things that I wanted wuthering to change compared to pgr right now. PGR like any game should have improved to get this far. There are just some things that pgr does right now that I want in wuthering. If you want my thoughts on PGR 1.0 I'd argue it was worse than hi3 launch (which would be the comparison at the time)
I did hear that management would actually go through media uploaded by CC to see what is in demand , so keep up the good work, upload more critiques about WuWa , more critiques = more improvements
Alright, I think changing the pity system right now is not a very good choice. Sure, they will earn more money, but that will make it harder for players to get their desired characters, especially free-to-play players. Also, they are already making 20mil-30mil each patch, and that's already huge. Before Wuwa, Kuro used to make 10m below. and yes I also do want Kuro to succeed but money isnt always the way, it's so sad that many people only look at the money the company is earning to see if the company is succeeding, sometimes it's the trust of its player base too. other than that I think the other takes were good, especially the rewards being increased
yea which is why if they just increase the pity counter a little bit then make it 100% is a good compromise i think anyways
What trust will do when they can't earn money?? Most of the player's in pgr are f2p and only whales make some contribution to their revenue. They already have weapon banner gurranted and that's already a very big step from their part. It's better this way, atleast they won't go bankrupt in upcoming years and keep making games in future..
I want the pity counter
ayyyyyeee keep up the good content, I really enjoy ur videos
I feel like its probably a bit too early for skins atm- I'm expecting the wuwa team to also make skins sometime in the future but i feel like that would come a couple patches after 1.2? and possibly when they start rerunning characters? i feel like those are probably a good time to drop skins into the game since they'll probably have passed most of the optimization work :3c
but until that day comes, please let me cry over ONLY pgr's skin- kuro makes such pretty skins i cant dEAL WITH THEM
😭😭
I like the fact that i dont need to fkin hunt scattered remnants of enemies for like 1 or 2 out of 10 required drops
its easier to focus on a single element in PGR since their gameplay is basically an isolated environment. They dont have to work on a lot of things so they can just focus on things that actually matter to the game itself. Gameplay, Story, even so their story only recently got better with the cinematics.
Gacha is a huge part. But man, the genshin/HSR/wuwa model is sooooo bad.
Characters are a huge part of gacha enjoyment, they're new with interessting kits; it gives you new goals with gear/skill upgrades, you learn to play them etc.
THEY. ARE. CONTENT. And when 50/50 exists on top of the pretty low pulls per patch, more often than not you're going to have to skip two banners before you get enough to pity one banner. That is terrible, and atleast this doesn't happen in PGR for low spenders/f2p. You don't need to retain Hero rank in PGR, or
I blame hoyo for this. Which sucks cos they have a much better system in HI3rd which they made even better recently (pgr's is still better but hey its still way better than the genshin model). Now every single gacha game is copying genshin's system.
1:40 You forgot extra 60 from dorm and after 4th anniversary, serum recovery limit will be increased to 240. That's 120 more serums but it's almost impossible to get permanent serum in PGR which I think don't matter cuz dailies are more than enough anyway.
3:05 I just want to point out that the amount of waveplates required to claim overworld boss reward, weekly bosses and tacet fields is also 60 which seems a bit unfair given that there's no guaranteed upgrade in WuWa for getting better substats
8:55 Okay so I agree with that cuz I have lost three 50-50 in WuWa in a row and the amount of wishes to get these characters were never less than 135 for me.
Please just shift 50-50 from character banner to weapon banner or just make character banner a 100% at lower wishes around 90 or 100. I'm really tired of these 50-50. There's no point to go for weapon if you're already broke on character banner (Like I am 🙂)
14:32 WuWa really needs good music. The music during second phase of Crownless was superb. I'd like to listen to more soundtrack like that during boss fights.
Btw nice video man. It's actually a good comparison.
ah yea oops forgot about that one but thanks!
@@shishou_kacchan Man I forgot to mention EN voice of Female Rover. They really need to fix that. She sounds like an AI 😭😭😭
Ah yup well this video isn't about fully criticism of wuwa (which I will do later) good thing to note though cus I've only used CN and JP VAs
that low invest what u said is not really the low invest. (most like arca or a overinvester)
ss3 not always needs(depends on unit or some time not worth to go for it by future plan).
also not all characters need 2 reso on weapon(only amp needs 2, tank and dps only need 1.)
voucherable units (specialy amps) is sss.
so 22(2/3) 112+cubs the low invest.
at least me some times ss3 is just overrated, mostly enable ppc starts or wz rots with a minor dmg up on sub-dmg sourse, but not nessesary on competitive play (at least me).
im not dolphin so idk how achivable that invest what u said, but ppl know.
Yeah for sure, like I said PGR is a good f2p game if you don't care about PG or WZ. I did forget to mention some amps are SSS obtainable that's my bad. But I was more saying that "PvP" styled gachas are a trap for competitive people
Every little dmg increase counts and generally SS3 with 2 resonance is what you want (in a over generalised sense)
@@shishou_kacchan I mean if you overly care about leaderboard ranking of gacha games, regardless what gacha it is you're going need to whale and most people who cares about it generally have alot of money to burn, for us F2P or mostly F2P, as long as we can pull for the char. we like and can just clear the end game content barely its a win really.
(As long as its not direct PvP between players its fine for most F2P, but once you've introduced direct PvP for F2P ex. Counter Side its not fun for F2P and especially to those who only buys monthly subscription also hate if the rewards for pulling is tied in direct PvP if i remember CounterSide PVP rewards was the currency for pulling? don't remember).
Im mostly F2P (monthly BC) in PC most of the time in 10% ranking, WZ bounces back in between Leader & Hero, Norman i can clear it okay takes a while though as i need to remove the buffs of the last stage (and my Un don't have much investment and most of my S rank are just SS), only CR is the BS end game which requires heavy investment of char. because of DPS check.
Atm im also playing WuWa, in terms of gacha still prefer PGR cause i rather play many different kind of char. in Action RPG game than caring about leaderboard, that's why PGR is still my main gacha than WuWa, and in WuWa i will only pull for the char. that is overtly OP especially main DPS.
Yup I agree for the most part. It was more of just a warning to people that may just go all out when they shouldn't. There are tiers to it like E7 is really bad for the competitive scene where you throw money.
And yea I like PGR a bit better still but that's probably because like what you said there's still more variety of gameplay in PGR. Though I'm sure over time Wuwa will have more different and varied units
I need help I can't launch this game on the Epic store I stood up for like 6 hours trying to figure it out looking at videos doing what people are telling me to do this game is impossible to Launch anybody have any ideas on people still going through the not launching problem where it's running but it won't show
For which game? Either way both have their own launcher give that a shot
@@shishou_kacchan thank you for the response the game I'm referred to is withering waves
What i wanna know is if your comparing wuwa to pgr 1.0? Cause it makes no sense if your not really...my thoughts tho
Oh, no of course I'm not comparing it to 1.0 pgr, this is just a list of things that I wanted wuthering to change compared to pgr right now.
PGR like any game should have improved to get this far. There are just some things that pgr does right now that I want in wuthering.
If you want my thoughts on PGR 1.0 I'd argue it was worse than hi3 launch (which would be the comparison at the time)
@@shishou_kacchan ahh...i see.
i stumbled upon another virgin, what is this game?? lol
Kek good one