To not spend all my free time working on guides, I decided to record this guide live on twitch.tv/spider_2b and have my gigachad editor make it pretty, if you guys don't mind this format, guides will probably continue. Thanks for watching! Imma go sleep, I got work in like 6 hours lol. Note: Sometimes I rotate like this: 1. Swap in 2. 3 ping 3. Ult 4. Hold dodge + basic attack to procc grapple matrix 4. Basic attack + blaze orb 3x (can dodge cancel) 5. Ult finish Personally I find this easier to push out damage (at least that's what my muscle memory defaults too) but both rotations have similar damage anyway, so its all about speed.
@@Spider2B That's what I tell myself: don't push yourself too hard, do what feels most comfortable to you. Anyway, this video format is great. I always recommend your guides to my friends as you always know how to explain things in the best possible way.
This format came out really nice actually. It doesnt feel any less informational or entertaining and it still has your style to it. We appreciate you for trying to find a compromise that lets you keep making guides while looking after your own wellbeing.
Happy to see the guides continue! I, for one, do not mind the new "format". Keep it up like this (long as you can mange it, dont burn yourself out) and we'll all be happy little boys and girls. o7
Glad the 5* weapon still works smh... I tried pulling the 6* one but LOST now I can't afford to use more bc cause Qu😭 Also welcome back and thanks for dropping this guide, your guides are my favorite 😭
He's definitely a must pull in regard of being super meta in two teams, but the problem is Qu releasing right afterwards. Had to skip Qu bc of him on JP and playing the ice-team without her absolutely sucks. I definitely regret pulling him over Qu since Nanamech will be in the S-rank selector during the Luna patch and having her and Qu just seemed the better choice!
Sadly I'll skip Unc for Qu's long legs, but I'll definitely get him once he's available in the guaranteed selector banner. Old man deserves it since i don't even have a dmg dealer in my fire team aside from....BRS..
You still need lee to make the fire team comparable and/or rival current lightning team and future Ice team Replacing lee to use nanamecha is only because of ppc but ppc will remove its rank and competitive functions in the near future based on the CN info
question sir, we all know that leap has 3 unlockable passive for each category, and every Level 18 leap passive always have something like "[Passive name] added effect", for example : [Passive: Martyrdom] added effect: After pinging the 3rd set of orbs during [Empyreal Prayer], if there are any remaining Signal Orbs of the same color as the 3rd set of orbs pinged, consume up to 3 Signal Orbs of the same color and increase the Extra DMG Bonus of [Empyreal Prayer] by 5% / 10% / 15% based on the number of orbs consumed. which is the "Martyrdom" refered to liv empyrea's SSS passive name, so the question is, after we leap our character (in this example is Liv) do we get the SSS passive as well? or is it only be benefit if we have the specific rank unlocked? (in this example need to be SSS first). because i only have rosetta, astral, and vera rozen leaped, which their SS/SSS/SSS+ are not changing any gameplay mechanism, basically just get stronger, so i cannot see the difference for now.
Nice guide as always, but I have a question regarding his memory build. Won't it be wise to just slap Shakespeare to him from the get go? Since his cottie build will be retired once Pyroath and Oblivion come out, so you won't waste precious memory chips on memories that will be replaced.
You'll get PLENTY of resources until then. But you can IF you have deadline timing. Rn watanabe is the main damage and you wanna spam his orbs and ults over the shred from Shakespeare.
Finally I waited for this content. I have a question, if I don't have Hyperreal, can I use Lee Palefire to rotate a team of Epitaph and Palefire characters? because I want to learn to rotate Palefire and Epitaph teams
@@Morichoradioi got question too. Now my fire team is Empy SS + Sign R2, pale fire SSS+ leaps and nanamech SS + Sign. Who the one is need to be replaced with watanabe on warzone?
@@garennnlzt If you can still tolerate nanamecha's clunky playstyle, Go for hyperreal SS-SS3 + Sig or you can go for watanabe right now and wait for the next anniversary banner to get hyperreal. Hyperreal needs his weapon and SS rank Watanabe doesnt need his weapon but get his SS rank Get Empyrea's leap once its available in GL servers
i don't know, maybe i can get both watanabe and qu as f2p... since i didn't Srank BRS..... got 25k something BC + 7200 orange tickets, i do have 19k blue tickets, or maybe i just make wrong calc i think lol 😅 edit: my only fire team is hyper lee, and liv empyrea lols XD no nanami starfarer, and not level palefire.
ill not have enough PPS for Epitaph and QU to get them to SS im on 214 now b4 spending it on Epitaph, so my plan is to get a 2nd copy of 1 of them. which SS3 has more value long term ?!
Look like annoying to learn... I don't have Liv and Lee 6* weapon what should I do? Is this a problem that will kill my combo? Also in Fire team with my Watanabe 6* weapon + harmonise + Resonance it's Lee or Liv to SS? Which is more important?
Nope. Ppc will remove its competitive and rank feature. So all you need is to reach 1.7 mil pointa to gain the max rewards which can be easily obtained by and f2p player
2 s ranks is rough for f2p to manage...but then u realise...pgr is, the only gacha outhere where ur practically guaranteed every unit for the longest time while getting free meta units on a regular bases on top of never needing to worry about 50/50 b.s...unfortunately we are spoiled in this game, lol. Unc do be clean but...where my hyperleap at huh...kuro do u have against the man, lol.
@ohio2561 They can't hold two buttons at same time... Even Echo had some similar mechanic, but for mobile players you just have to hold the analog and keep using the secondary orbs
@@nuke0174 Well duh, of course it'll work. I'm asking how will you do it with limited finger movements. Anyways I know now. Instead of pressing them at the same time, tap on dodge and slide upto basic attack, immediately do a 3 ping.
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To not spend all my free time working on guides, I decided to record this guide live on twitch.tv/spider_2b and have my gigachad editor make it pretty, if you guys don't mind this format, guides will probably continue. Thanks for watching! Imma go sleep, I got work in like 6 hours lol.
Note: Sometimes I rotate like this:
1. Swap in
2. 3 ping
3. Ult
4. Hold dodge + basic attack to procc grapple matrix
4. Basic attack + blaze orb 3x (can dodge cancel)
5. Ult finish
Personally I find this easier to push out damage (at least that's what my muscle memory defaults too) but both rotations have similar damage anyway, so its all about speed.
this format is good as long as its not impacting the other things you need to prioritize spider ❤️
just you uploading guides is a blessing itself
Whatever makes it work out for all of us!
the guides are greatly appreciated and your editor did a great job, keep em coming if you can
@@Spider2B That's what I tell myself: don't push yourself too hard, do what feels most comfortable to you.
Anyway, this video format is great. I always recommend your guides to my friends as you always know how to explain things in the best possible way.
...kept us waiting, huh?
thanks for your work, I really wish you are doing well!
Next one will prob come out before maintenance haha.
@@Spider2B you're good my guy! ...Unk made me broke and Qu is looking at me very worried from her future patch 🥲
WATANABE ABOUT TO GIVE ME AN EPITAPH 🥵😩
Freaky ahh
Bruh 😂
Wuthering my waves until my gray raven is punished by Watanabe's throbbing epitaph
Ayo what
@@claggor1070 woah calm the f down 😂
The Spider Returns!
Yay the master of guides has returned!
This format came out really nice actually. It doesnt feel any less informational or entertaining and it still has your style to it. We appreciate you for trying to find a compromise that lets you keep making guides while looking after your own wellbeing.
Thanks for the guide. I've been missing a strong fire tank so will be pulling for him!
I'm so happy to see this and want you to know how thankful I am for this content you put out there. I hope all is well on your end.
It's goin better
Happy to see the guides continue!
I, for one, do not mind the new "format". Keep it up like this (long as you can mange it, dont burn yourself out) and we'll all be happy little boys and girls.
o7
Finally a new guide
Im so happy to have you back ❤️ thanks for the guide!
I love how you considered different level of investments man! You're the GOAT of PGR guides! Thanks!
MY GO TO PGR GUIDE CC IS BACK
17:33 Alpha is so OP she managed to time stop Wata and mess up Spider's Time 😂🙏
Glad to see you back! But take care of your health
I'm doing better! Thanks for your concern.
Glad you are back :D
This format is good. Keep it up man. Take care of yourself.
Thanks for the feedback!
Thank you as always for your time
I was not expecting a guide vid, I guess I get to keep watching my go to guide maker
My goat has returned
FATHER HAS BLESSED US WITH ANOTHER GUIDE LES GOOOOO 🙏🙏
Yaaay you're back love your PGR guides
Welcome back spyder 2b. I really missed your contents.
Thnak you for making guides still
The goat is back
We're so backkkk
In all my 3 years of pulling, Watanabe was the 1st to come early!!! I'm so happy yet sad, but happy more for now 🥹🥹🥹
I like this format. Keep it up bro. 💪🏻
Welcome back.
18:29 Roseblade's attack looks so cool! Real rose
I pulled this man in the first pull in 10(my pity was 4/60),Love this game dude
He's back! I'm excited
He has returned 🔥🔥
LESGO YOU'RE BACK!
I got the chills when you said Lee hyperreal is now sub dps.
The goat is back yippieee
KURO PLEASE BRING THIS MAN TO WUNTHERING WAVES 🙇🙇🙇🙇🙇
I think wuwa is covered pretty well but who knows
Glad the 5* weapon still works smh... I tried pulling the 6* one but LOST now I can't afford to use more bc cause Qu😭
Also welcome back and thanks for dropping this guide, your guides are my favorite 😭
He back let's go oooooooo spider
Thanks Brother ❤
"Return of the King"
Mou shiwa OSORENAI!
He's never died on me once
Mom I’m on tv🥹 welcome back bro lmao
He's definitely a must pull in regard of being super meta in two teams, but the problem is Qu releasing right afterwards.
Had to skip Qu bc of him on JP and playing the ice-team without her absolutely sucks.
I definitely regret pulling him over Qu since Nanamech will be in the S-rank selector during the Luna patch and having her and Qu just seemed the better choice!
Yep that's the dilemma. 2 back to back strong s ranks.
hey this solidified my choice of not getting Epitaph lol
Watachad is a must pull. 💪
Saving for DMC Dante, Vergil, and Nero.
That's more than a year away, no reason to gimp two teams for a full year over it
Same, all in for dmc
@@djixi98 I'm all in for DMC.
So you are gonna skip all these powerful units that will make your gameplay fun and easy, to get a much more weaker collectors item?
@isobaramark7032 it's not fun if it's easy. DMC characters definitely wouldn't be weak.
Sadly I'll skip Unc for Qu's long legs, but I'll definitely get him once he's available in the guaranteed selector banner. Old man deserves it since i don't even have a dmg dealer in my fire team aside from....BRS..
In time
Damn he's actually pretty hard to use a bit IM SO EXCITED
You get used to it
Got him, his weapon, and his cub. Now I just need to farm PC a bit to get him SS.
got him in 10 pulls and his sig in 17. 🌋🌋🌋
god speed everyone
Can't wait, esp cause I have no pulse, and no hyperreal so unc will be on double duty lol
MY GOAT!!!!
btw im using him at ss rank, he can solo ice stage in norman cloud island without buff. too good to be skipped
You still need lee to make the fire team comparable and/or rival current lightning team and future Ice team
Replacing lee to use nanamecha is only because of ppc but ppc will remove its rank and competitive functions in the near future based on the CN info
Yup. Some tabkier fire paincage bosses watanabe also can't finish himself, he runs out of orbs.
question sir, we all know that leap has 3 unlockable passive for each category, and every Level 18 leap passive always have something like "[Passive name] added effect", for example :
[Passive: Martyrdom] added effect: After pinging the 3rd set of orbs during [Empyreal Prayer], if there are any remaining Signal Orbs of the same color as the 3rd set of orbs pinged, consume up to 3 Signal Orbs of the same color and increase the Extra DMG Bonus of [Empyreal Prayer] by 5% / 10% / 15% based on the number of orbs consumed.
which is the "Martyrdom" refered to liv empyrea's SSS passive name, so the question is, after we leap our character (in this example is Liv) do we get the SSS passive as well? or is it only be benefit if we have the specific rank unlocked? (in this example need to be SSS first).
because i only have rosetta, astral, and vera rozen leaped, which their SS/SSS/SSS+ are not changing any gameplay mechanism, basically just get stronger, so i cannot see the difference for now.
yeah you need the rank
I’m gonna save for either Qu or Vera’s coating then will get him on free S rank selector banner.
Nice guide as always, but I have a question regarding his memory build. Won't it be wise to just slap Shakespeare to him from the get go? Since his cottie build will be retired once Pyroath and Oblivion come out, so you won't waste precious memory chips on memories that will be replaced.
You'll get PLENTY of resources until then. But you can IF you have deadline timing. Rn watanabe is the main damage and you wanna spam his orbs and ults over the shred from Shakespeare.
I'm going all in for my husband. I'll show Babylonia a true punishing incident once i get my hands on him. ❤
My ego are just too big, i refuse to swap out uncle 😭
Finally I waited for this content.
I have a question, if I don't have Hyperreal, can I use Lee Palefire to rotate a team of Epitaph and Palefire characters?
because I want to learn to rotate Palefire and Epitaph teams
You can use palefire but you still need to 2 ult with nabe.
@Morichoradio okay, thanks for the answer
@@Morichoradioi got question too. Now my fire team is Empy SS + Sign R2, pale fire SSS+ leaps and nanamech SS + Sign. Who the one is need to be replaced with watanabe on warzone?
@@garennnlzt If you can still tolerate nanamecha's clunky playstyle, Go for hyperreal SS-SS3 + Sig or you can go for watanabe right now and wait for the next anniversary banner to get hyperreal.
Hyperreal needs his weapon and SS rank
Watanabe doesnt need his weapon but get his SS rank
Get Empyrea's leap once its available in GL servers
i don't know, maybe i can get both watanabe and qu as f2p... since i didn't Srank BRS..... got 25k something BC + 7200 orange tickets, i do have 19k blue tickets, or maybe i just make wrong calc i think lol 😅
edit: my only fire team is hyper lee, and liv empyrea lols XD no nanami starfarer, and not level palefire.
LONG GUIDE FROM SPIDER 2B, I almost lost hope, LESS FECKING GOOO
I still have my blue selector and planning on pulling Wata Fire in 2 patches for SS3, but how is he compared to SS3 Qu Ice?
Wata ss3 is better. Helps both him and the team.
@@Spider2B Got it thank you! oh and also welcome back 😄
ill not have enough PPS for Epitaph and QU to get them to SS im on 214 now b4 spending it on Epitaph, so my plan is to get a 2nd copy of 1 of them. which SS3 has more value long term ?!
Epitaph
I have at least 80k - 90k BC, should I use to SSS Watanabe or SS3 him and upcoming Ice Qu? (Will both of their weapon sig)
SS3 is enough, I think
So you can saving more for Qu
which one should we SS first? watanabe or QU?
Need both, its up to you. Technically Qu carries ice harder but not that much more than watanabe for fire.
Should i pull his weapon or qu's?
Qu's
@Spider2B thanks bruh...been watching your guides since 2023 august...keep up the good work🔥
When is he out?
Look like annoying to learn... I don't have Liv and Lee 6* weapon what should I do? Is this a problem that will kill my combo? Also in Fire team with my Watanabe 6* weapon + harmonise + Resonance it's Lee or Liv to SS? Which is more important?
1. they function sorta still with 5 star weapons just not as smooth.
2. leaning to lee, but liv is most futureproof
@Spider2B OK thanks! I will SS Liv and get her weapon then as long i have enough for the Ice Queen 👌
How do you hold atk + Dodge on mobile device?
you do hold dodge THEN basic attack, they dont need to be at the same time.
@@Spider2B ah i see, i thought you press them at the same time
IG it's the reverse. Click basic atk and hold dodge. IDK surely about that.@@Spider2B
SSS Watanabe is the best SSS in the game... for now, apparently.
What make liv spending orb so fast? Sss or leap?
Leap
PEAK
I have 30 more pulls
Will I be able to get him guys ?
Holding dodge+ basic attacks? How am I going to do that in mobile?
A bit like Alisa hopefully
hold dodge then basic attack, its not bad.
Lee will disappear instead nanami in ppc heh
Nope. Ppc will remove its competitive and rank feature. So all you need is to reach 1.7 mil pointa to gain the max rewards which can be easily obtained by and f2p player
@@Morichoradio 1.8m actually, and they removed it on Luna patch
until the boss too tanky, then lee comes back lol
7:13 why don't you just hold dodge in there?
it's on cooldown, you can't use it every rotation, only every other.
Done with your vacation?
Not I'm feeling sorry at skipping him.....not my fault not enough bc.
Curse you Black Rock Shooter!!🤧
2 s ranks is rough for f2p to manage...but then u realise...pgr is, the only gacha outhere where ur practically guaranteed every unit for the longest time while getting free meta units on a regular bases on top of never needing to worry about 50/50 b.s...unfortunately we are spoiled in this game, lol.
Unc do be clean but...where my hyperleap at huh...kuro do u have against the man, lol.
COOL
14:03 isnt it teddy patch?
no luna's, 2 s ranks after debut.
@Spider2B but lamia is now in the standard pool tho
2:15 What about mobile players?
Still the same thing he has clearly explained what you need to do
@ohio2561 They can't hold two buttons at same time... Even Echo had some similar mechanic, but for mobile players you just have to hold the analog and keep using the secondary orbs
@@ayush7800 umm. If you are talking about hold + ba matrix all in one that part then it works in mobile as well
@@nuke0174 Well duh, of course it'll work. I'm asking how will you do it with limited finger movements. Anyways I know now.
Instead of pressing them at the same time, tap on dodge and slide upto basic attack, immediately do a 3 ping.
you do hold dodge THEN basic attack, they dont need to be at the same time.
This rotation is hard to grasp and requiere practice.
too bad i have 0 pulls
pgr needs to slow down i only have enough pulls left after watanabe for qu and not her weapon
FINALLY.. Do you smellllllll what the spider is cooking!!!
9 50 its not cottie what set this is
its the equivalent.
Welcome back.