I wouldn't go that far, but I certainly agree that was one of the great things about the Davison/JNT era where they would make a lot more callbacks to the continuity of the show, yet it would still feel accurate to the show's roots and original theme without feeling like pointless references to cover up a lack in quality, which shows can sometimes do.
@@UnchainedEruptionyou had a point up to the end…it was a point being made about the man being instrumental in the series despite not being the focus like the ladies, Harry, or the Doctor himself.
As an American fan of the show in the 80s, I had only seen Tom Baker's and a few of Davison's episodes at this point. So when JNT would add little flashbacks to older episodes that, at that point, I'd only maybe read about via a Target novel or seen a picture of in DWM, it was a real treat.
most average people with just their mobiles can accomplish better FX but yes this was an improvement I'd almost forgotten this perhaps it was also a YETI that walked cross my path!! ENJOY!
The 3 to 4 regeneration was the only one personally witnessed by the Brigadier. Any doubts he may have that the three versions of the Doctor he had already known were the same entity had to have been removed completely.
I was a huge fan of the Brigadier. His arguments with Pertwee's Doctor were always a riot. Nicholas Courtney seems to have had a wonderful time playing this character.
I still wonder what this episode would have been like had they gotten William Russell and this had been Ian Chesterton recounting his experiences with the first Doctor.
Doctor Who Production Office, 1983 JNT: Quick! Quick! Raid the archives for what footage we didn’t destroy! We need 1960s and 1970s Dr. Who clips! BBC Archives: Well... JNT: What do you mean, we destroyed them all?!?
"[Harry Sullivan] last heard of doing something very hush hush and important." Would that be the anti-Zygon death gas, Z-67? Very obscure callback to this scene if intended.
1:04 The Yeti (The Web of Fear) 1:07 Cybermen (The Invasion) 1:10 Third Doctor (Spearhead from Space) 1:13 The Silurian (Doctor Who and The Silurians) 1:15 The Master (Terror of The Autons) 1:20 Axons (Claws of The Axos) 1:21 Bok The Gargoyle (The Daemons) 1:02, 1:24, 1:27, 1:29, First Doctor, Second Doctor and Omega (The Three Doctors) 1:32, 1:35, 1:38 Regeneration and Robot K1 (Planet of The Spiders and Robot) 1:41, 1:43, 1:46 Broton (Terror of The Zygons)
I find it interesting that the original idea was for Ian Chesterton to be in the role that the Brigadier filled, and whilst that would have been nice, I feel the Brig was always going to be the more appropriate choice as whilst Ian was an original character, he wasn’t there for a good chunk of the Doctors story, the Brig met every doctor at this point and shared more adventures with more people, so it was a match made in heaven
@@diegovargasdiego I’m older now. I have to say that lots of early shows 1963-1969 were really kiddy shows on low budgets in a small studio. They don’t really hold up for me now. But that’s my personal opinion. When I was younger I enjoyed them.
@@dougmaclennan8654well, they were supposed to be that way: originally a kids scifi show that evolved into a family and older crowd show some were good fun, others groaners, but they were trying something new so found their footing eventually
the flashback sequence is good but imo the original (as this one is only seen when the CGI remake is selected on the DVD) is far better. I've never understood why it was an option to change.
Does anyone remember Danny pink and how the doctor couldn't accept that he was a maths teacher due to his past as a soldier. I take it Gareth Roberts and Moffat never watched this story
I think the Time War was supposed to have changed the Doctor's attitudes. In his speech at the end of The Zygon Inversion it's clear that the Doctor was traumatized by his time as Gallifrey's most famous soldier. He seems to lash out at Danny because of his disgust at his own past and all the death and pain he saw and caused then.
women be slutty, no one can die, everyone lives happily ever after, I am the doctor, that is just the moffat way you know. time war, let's make it so that it was not as horrible as we thought. As I moffat thing it's all just rubbish and my thoughts are superior.
The Brigadier's trip down Memory Lane is one of my favorite parts of "Mawdryn Undead". When we hear the names of Jo Grant, Sarah Jane Smith, and Liz Shaw being whispered, I can just picture them whispering their names
There's an odd sort of memory loss to Lethbridge-Stewart that i hadn't picked up on before - he remembers Harry Sullivan and can tell the Doctor what he's doing now, he also remembers UNIT and Benton clearly, but has no recollection of the Doctor, Jo Grant, Liz Shaw, The Yeti, Cybermen, etc. Very Odd. For Six years he has been at the School and a huge chunk of his past life has been almost erased, how he can know what Harry Sullivan is up to, but has no memory or contact with Jo, Liz, or presumably Sarah, is a little hard to fathom. It's six years of his life spent in almost exclusion...
Benton and Harry worked with him for a lot longer, the companions not so much especially Jo and Sara Jane…whatever wiped his memories did it for the ones closest to the Doctor
Jo and Liz are weird because they worked for the unit.They were his employees Serah, however, doesn't actually work there. She's just friends with the doctor
The only problem I can find with this version is that in the original when the motif from the theme tune came in it showed each Doctor. Here it's out of sync. But other than that, yeah, I pretty much agree.
The best sequence in the entire 1983 season. I love the transition between new and old - they matched the shots perfectly. This was when Doctor Who was still DOCTOR WHO!
Can someone make a difference comparison video of this sequence and the original one, just to see how many clips were used and which ones were used instead.
Though of curse the dating of Benton leaving the army in 1979 kinda conflicts with the implication that the Pertwee era was set in the then near future of the 1980's....
It was always a mess. Sarah Jane said she came from '1980' in 'Pyramids of Mars', and 'Web of Fear' and 'The Invasion' had mentioned 1975 and 1979. It seems ridiculous that the entire Pertwee era was compressed into a short span. The Benton 1979 thing is best ignored. Doctor Who Magazine used to run a 'TARDIS Log' feature, assigning a date for every journey. The UNIT stories were all dated 7 years beyond the year the stories aired, which would make 1968-1975 air dates, or 1975-82 according to the in-story dialogue. Which makes '1977 and 1983' a problem for 'Mawdryn Undead'
@@brianoneill7186 Although Invasion and Web are both clearly set in an earlier time than the Pertwee era, because in Web there is no UNIT and Lethbridge-Stuart is a Colonel in the regular army: by Invasion he is working with UNIT but remains a Colonel. Presumably by the event sin Spearhead, he not only becomes part of UNIT, but in command (at least within the UK bit), and has been promoted to Brigadier
@@richardgregory3684When the Doctor first sees Lethbridge-Stewart in 'Invasion', he naturally calls him 'Colonel', but is immediately corrected; his friend had been promoted, reminding the Doctor that a few years had passed since their first meeting.
I think the returning of The Brigadier and the introduction of Turlough are about the only things that keeps this story from being forgettable especially with a villain that has spaghetti noodles for a brain Literally
One of my very favorite Fifth Doctor stories, this and "Enlightenment". Kind of the "Let's meet Turlough" trilogy. Not a big fan of "Terminus", when we say goodbye to Nyssa, however.
Oliver Linklater couldn't agree more, Murray Golds score is very overbearing at times. One thing I'm looking forward to about series 11 is a new composer
You can like something without deluding yourself you know. Obviously its not going to be as good as a modern score with so much more effort and money for talent, and trying to pick winners rather than just enjoying both for the style of show at the time only cheapens them.
1960's- 50's stylized Sci-Fi music with the Radiophonic Workshop's masterpiece of a theme 1970's- Horns and Synths with the same second theme 1980's- New theme and synths, and sometimes synthesized horns, galore 1990's- Orchestra 2005- Occasional atmospheric music 2006 to Present- BWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAWN BWAAAAAAAAAAAN etc.
NGL, I actually kind of prefer the original flashback sequence. I mean, the fade effects here are a definite improvement, but I feel like there was a lot more care in choosing which clips to use for the sequence to give it a more "celebratory" feel. IDK, the original just feels more cinematic in that regard I guess.
I find it interesting that the original idea was for Ian Chesterton to be in the role that the Brigadier filled, and whilst that would have been nice, I feel the Brig was always going to be the more appropriate choice as whilst Ian was an original character, he wasn’t there for a good chunk of the Doctors story, the Brig met every doctor at this point and shared more adventures with more people, so it was a match made in heaven
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I love the way that Peter Davison just drops in the sugar cube as if to state "mission accomplished!"
The Brig without his moustache is so bizarre.
He lost his Brigadier powers.
The Brigadier later grew it back before he got kidnapped along with the 5 Doctors and some of the Doctor‘s other friends to Gallifrey.
Excellent! He had recovered swiftly
BRIGADIER POWERS RESTORED!
"You know sometimes, Brigadier, you remind me a great deal of your other self."
It makes you forgetful.
Cold.. it's so, cold!
Love that while Brigadier is having some hardcore flashbacks the Doctor is just making himself some tea.
As a massive fan of the Pertwee era, and of the classic UNIT stories, I always get a bit emotional at this scene.
I wouldn't go that far, but I certainly agree that was one of the great things about the Davison/JNT era where they would make a lot more callbacks to the continuity of the show, yet it would still feel accurate to the show's roots and original theme without feeling like pointless references to cover up a lack in quality, which shows can sometimes do.
Same. Pertwee’s era is my favourite era.
@@josephmarrison4606 My mother had a serious crush on Jon Pertwee.
@@andrewpytko4773I love Jon Pertwee. He was my Doctor.
@@UnchainedEruptionyou had a point up to the end…it was a point being made about the man being instrumental in the series despite not being the focus like the ladies, Harry, or the Doctor himself.
"Wonderful chap. All of them."
and NOW lovely chaps and LASS she especially is Lovely here's to the new generation !! CHEERS!
As an American fan of the show in the 80s, I had only seen Tom Baker's and a few of Davison's episodes at this point. So when JNT would add little flashbacks to older episodes that, at that point, I'd only maybe read about via a Target novel or seen a picture of in DWM, it was a real treat.
3 to 4s Regeneration flashback looks so much better with the newer effect and music.
most average people with just their mobiles can accomplish better FX but yes this was an improvement I'd almost forgotten this perhaps it was also a YETI that walked cross my path!! ENJOY!
The 3 to 4 regeneration was the only one personally witnessed by the Brigadier. Any doubts he may have that the three versions of the Doctor he had already known were the same entity had to have been removed completely.
I was a huge fan of the Brigadier. His arguments with Pertwee's Doctor were always a riot. Nicholas Courtney seems to have had a wonderful time playing this character.
A time when Dr Who was a phenomenon
He’s also a first appearance in The Dalek’s Master Plan with The First Doctor before he voiced The Brigadier formerly as The Colonel.
The funny thing is, the Brigadier wasn't even _in_ some of the scenes shown in that flashback montage.
it can be interpreted as him remembering the events overall, especially since he had to write the reports to headquarters regarding them
This was also the remastered flashbacks, it was slightly different in the original broadcast.
With Daleks flashback in it
I still wonder what this episode would have been like had they gotten William Russell and this had been Ian Chesterton recounting his experiences with the first Doctor.
I'm imagining gaps in the memory sequence filled with the "media not found" screen in Adobe Premiere.
Would've been dope
Or Ian Marter as Harry Sullivan
William Russell was also unavailable for the 5 Dr's as well.
I don’t think it would have been as good to be honest. I think it was good that they reused the Brigadier as he had been with all 4 previous doctors
Doctor Who Production Office, 1983
JNT: Quick! Quick! Raid the archives for what footage we didn’t destroy! We need 1960s and 1970s Dr. Who clips!
BBC Archives: Well...
JNT: What do you mean, we destroyed them all?!?
The music. The bass guitar. The epicness. The brigadier. Legend
This was one of my favorite 5th Doctor stories and The Brig was as awesome as he always is.
very powerful scene and showed how involved the Brigadier was in the series for a while before they moved away from the Earth-centric stories
"[Harry Sullivan] last heard of doing something very hush hush and important." Would that be the anti-Zygon death gas, Z-67? Very obscure callback to this scene if intended.
Writing Dr Who novels...
The line is actually "hush hush at Porton Down," which is a British defense lab.
1:04 The Yeti (The Web of Fear)
1:07 Cybermen (The Invasion)
1:10 Third Doctor (Spearhead from Space)
1:13 The Silurian (Doctor Who and The Silurians)
1:15 The Master (Terror of The Autons)
1:20 Axons (Claws of The Axos)
1:21 Bok The Gargoyle (The Daemons)
1:02, 1:24, 1:27, 1:29, First Doctor, Second Doctor and Omega (The Three Doctors)
1:32, 1:35, 1:38 Regeneration and Robot K1 (Planet of The Spiders and Robot)
1:41, 1:43, 1:46 Broton (Terror of The Zygons)
I find it interesting that the original idea was for Ian Chesterton to be in the role that the Brigadier filled, and whilst that would have been nice, I feel the Brig was always going to be the more appropriate choice as whilst Ian was an original character, he wasn’t there for a good chunk of the Doctors story, the Brig met every doctor at this point and shared more adventures with more people, so it was a match made in heaven
Interesting you made good points william Russell was only there from 1963 to 1965 you make sense.
This is my favorite Classic Doctor Who clip from a personal favorite episode
This sequence made me hellbent on seeing every single Doctor Who episode.
@K9 lost in espace Done already!
@@dougmaclennan8654 how was it, did the missing episodes bother at all?
@@diegovargasdiego I’m older now. I have to say that lots of early shows 1963-1969 were really kiddy shows on low budgets in a small studio. They don’t really hold up for me now. But that’s my personal opinion. When I was younger I enjoyed them.
@@dougmaclennan8654well, they were supposed to be that way: originally a kids scifi show that evolved into a family and older crowd show
some were good fun, others groaners, but they were trying something new so found their footing eventually
That was really very nicely done.
Master reference?
Made more sense that they wanted Ian to play this. Seems odd that the Brig just retires
the flashback sequence is good but imo the original (as this one is only seen when the CGI remake is selected on the DVD) is far better. I've never understood why it was an option to change.
The brigadier is my favorite character out of the third doctors adventures
What, not the Doc himself? 😉🥰
@@nicholasdickens2801 of course the fifth doctor too he’s my favorite doctor
Does anyone remember Danny pink and how the doctor couldn't accept that he was a maths teacher due to his past as a soldier. I take it Gareth Roberts and Moffat never watched this story
I think the Time War was supposed to have changed the Doctor's attitudes. In his speech at the end of The Zygon Inversion it's clear that the Doctor was traumatized by his time as Gallifrey's most famous soldier. He seems to lash out at Danny because of his disgust at his own past and all the death and pain he saw and caused then.
women be slutty, no one can die, everyone lives happily ever after, I am the doctor, that is just the moffat way you know. time war, let's make it so that it was not as horrible as we thought. As I moffat thing it's all just rubbish and my thoughts are superior.
Just wait for the time war to be re-retconned XD
Yes but you'd need something like a time machine to do that, and that's just fanciful thinking !
I'm fairly certain it was a reference to this episode in the first place. Moffat loved the Brigadier.
Good old Paddy Kingsland and his Music!
The Brigadier's trip down Memory Lane is one of my favorite parts of "Mawdryn Undead". When we hear the names of Jo Grant, Sarah Jane Smith, and Liz Shaw being whispered, I can just picture them whispering their names
This is why their is a gaping chasm between the current Dr Who and this
There's an odd sort of memory loss to Lethbridge-Stewart that i hadn't picked up on before - he remembers Harry Sullivan and can tell the Doctor what he's doing now, he also remembers UNIT and Benton clearly, but has no recollection of the Doctor, Jo Grant, Liz Shaw, The Yeti, Cybermen, etc.
Very Odd. For Six years he has been at the School and a huge chunk of his past life has been almost erased, how he can know what Harry Sullivan is up to, but has no memory or contact with Jo, Liz, or presumably Sarah, is a little hard to fathom. It's six years of his life spent in almost exclusion...
Benton and Harry worked with him for a lot longer, the companions not so much especially Jo and Sara Jane…whatever wiped his memories did it for the ones closest to the Doctor
Jo and Liz are weird because they worked for the unit.They were his employees
Serah, however, doesn't actually work there. She's just friends with the doctor
The Brigadier forgot to remember The Autons, The Daleks, Ogrons, maggots, dinosaurs, Gell guards and Skarasen.
sad missed captain yates in memory
one of my favorite scenes ever!
My only gripe with this scene is that they never mention Yates 😥
The Brigadier looks exactly the same appearance of Bret Vyon.
Nicholas Courtney is also voiced the first appearance in The Dalek’s Master Plan.
This is my favorite scene from Mawdryn Undead
RSM Benton would've been glad to see the Doctor again in Mawdryn Undead, though he looks younger than the 4 other incarnations before him.
The only time that a remaster is MUCH better than the original version
The only problem I can find with this version is that in the original when the motif from the theme tune came in it showed each Doctor. Here it's out of sync. But other than that, yeah, I pretty much agree.
Evonne Okafor kinda? The CGI snake is so much better
The best sequence in the entire 1983 season. I love the transition between new and old - they matched the shots perfectly. This was when Doctor Who was still DOCTOR WHO!
And today Doctor Who is STILL DOCTOR WHO. wake up!
@@sillygoose635 actually now it's just a rip- off 2020s version of a Sci-Fi show
@@thecoolmanstation no it's not.
@@sillygoose635 whatever still it doesn't feel the same anymore
@@thecoolmanstation well that's your opinion then.
What episode and Doctor is that winged bat creature from? It's at 1:20 into the clip
The Daemons. Jon Pertwee. Chap with wings. Five rounds rapid!
@@tonyyoung3985 . Thanks!
Bok The Gargoyle.
thats a pretty good remaster from the original
A very decent story and a good debut for Mark Strikson.
Most of the Doctor Who stories in Jon Pertwee's era are UNIT stories.
What no clip from Day of the Daleks?
UNIT was involved in that story.
A Flashback with the Gold Dalek was used in the original
Can someone make a difference comparison video of this sequence and the original one, just to see how many clips were used and which ones were used instead.
Great moment
classic scene
Though of curse the dating of Benton leaving the army in 1979 kinda conflicts with the implication that the Pertwee era was set in the then near future of the 1980's....
It was always a mess. Sarah Jane said she came from '1980' in 'Pyramids of Mars', and 'Web of Fear' and 'The Invasion' had mentioned 1975 and 1979. It seems ridiculous that the entire Pertwee era was compressed into a short span. The Benton 1979 thing is best ignored.
Doctor Who Magazine used to run a 'TARDIS Log' feature, assigning a date for every journey. The UNIT stories were all dated 7 years beyond the year the stories aired, which would make 1968-1975 air dates, or 1975-82 according to the in-story dialogue. Which makes '1977 and 1983' a problem for 'Mawdryn Undead'
@@brianoneill7186 Although Invasion and Web are both clearly set in an earlier time than the Pertwee era, because in Web there is no UNIT and Lethbridge-Stuart is a Colonel in the regular army: by Invasion he is working with UNIT but remains a Colonel. Presumably by the event sin Spearhead, he not only becomes part of UNIT, but in command (at least within the UK bit), and has been promoted to Brigadier
@@richardgregory3684When the Doctor first sees Lethbridge-Stewart in 'Invasion', he naturally calls him 'Colonel', but is immediately corrected; his friend had been promoted, reminding the Doctor that a few years had passed since their first meeting.
I think the returning of The Brigadier and the introduction of Turlough are about the only things that keeps this story from being forgettable especially with a villain that has spaghetti noodles for a brain
Literally
One of my very favorite Fifth Doctor stories, this and "Enlightenment". Kind of the "Let's meet Turlough" trilogy. Not a big fan of "Terminus", when we say goodbye to Nyssa, however.
The days when Dr Who was…well Dr Who…and not propaganda promoting the pernicious ideologies of its writers and leading actor.
I don't remember this.
It was better as it was.
Today you've uploaded videos with amazing music. Way better than Murray Gold's
Oliver Linklater couldn't agree more, Murray Golds score is very overbearing at times. One thing I'm looking forward to about series 11 is a new composer
Liam Cahill yeah agreed it's very samely I can't wait for a new composer
You can like something without deluding yourself you know. Obviously its not going to be as good as a modern score with so much more effort and money for talent, and trying to pick winners rather than just enjoying both for the style of show at the time only cheapens them.
1960's- 50's stylized Sci-Fi music with the Radiophonic Workshop's masterpiece of a theme
1970's- Horns and Synths with the same second theme
1980's- New theme and synths, and sometimes synthesized horns, galore
1990's- Orchestra
2005- Occasional atmospheric music
2006 to Present- BWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAWN BWAAAAAAAAAAAN etc.
That goes without saying.
NGL, I actually kind of prefer the original flashback sequence. I mean, the fade effects here are a definite improvement, but I feel like there was a lot more care in choosing which clips to use for the sequence to give it a more "celebratory" feel. IDK, the original just feels more cinematic in that regard I guess.
Where is his moustache? !
It was shaved off,but it did grow back.
Prefer the original for pretty much all the reasons others have stated below.
Ehh, It's nice but I prefer the original version better.
I find it interesting that the original idea was for Ian Chesterton to be in the role that the Brigadier filled, and whilst that would have been nice, I feel the Brig was always going to be the more appropriate choice as whilst Ian was an original character, he wasn’t there for a good chunk of the Doctors story, the Brig met every doctor at this point and shared more adventures with more people, so it was a match made in heaven
I don’t think that would’ve worked nowadays as they’ve stated that he and Barbra haven’t aged since the 60s.
William Russell was also unavailable for the 5 Dr's as well