Seems like Shoe is a decent person, which is a reason why I enjoy her content. But it still bothers me that she easily falls for republican propaganda. She doesnt seem hateful, just misguided. I hope she changes for the better, and not just ban everyone who calls her out for using shitty arguments to defend right wing people who like playing the victim, like libsoftiktok.
@Nani Nano my guess is that it means reactionary right wing culture war shit, the right is the entire culture war they make up the entire thing the left doesn’t even exist in the way the right portrays it to, cancel culture is a made up boogie man, anti SJW stuff is just right wing rage repackaged as the right being a victim.. the twitter mob isn’t an all powerful group
Are you saying the LoTT woman deserved to have her personal details publicly exposed via a major news publication? Just because she aggregated & reposted tik toks people had publicly uploaded? Going viral is part of the implicit consent model of tik tok; LoTT merely expedited the potential, and added her opinion. Even if we find her opinions or intentions distasteful, does that really justify doxxing (& its potential consequences)?? The fact it was carried out by someone who recently went viral for denouncing doxxing is just the beauty of karma & irony.
Sh0e really needs to stop blocking people on Twitter everytime they say something mildly mean and she might have a better following that isn't filled with weird Right-wing and Libertarian simps
I got blocked and I've never said anything about her, I think she follow-policed me or went through my likes, there isn't anything insane but I do follow some crazy people.
What's wild about Shoe blocking so many people is that once when she was simping over Tucker Carlson in her comments, I said something along the lines of, "Hardcore white people shit" and she deleted her comment but didn't block me. After finding out she blocks people for mild criticism, I wonder sometimes how I got a pass.
Eh.. i think you should be able to block whomever you want for whatever reason you want unless you’re like a politician or a major public figure. Shoe is neither.
It was around this time that sh0e introduced me (Not personally, obviously) to Vaush. So she can't be *all* bad. Personally I feel like sh0e is a lot like Ethan from H3H3 (as a recent example from Voosh content) in the sense that they aren't genuinely trying to be wrong, but are/have been willing to move on an issue when presented with proper criticism. No matter what, at the end of the day, "fixing"/removing sh0eonhead is very low on the list of things for us to worry about imho.
Her screeching on Twitter like a fucking baboon about how the LibsofTicTok PoS got 'doxed' is really fucking grating, at least Because it's nakedly wrong on every level. And anyone who brings up how it isn't doxing, no matter how politely, gets blocked. Ethan's vastly better then she is, she isn't willing to move on shit.
The issue with winning over reactionaries is that if they don’t do the work to understand that they are falling for an emotional, gut reaction that is based in fear or hate for the unknown they will just fall for the next right wing culture war issue.. they need to dismantle their life long brainwashing of fear and anger to the out group or change or else you get people who call themselves “left” but are constantly helping the right build the narrative that there is an extreme “too far left” crazy wing on the left like there is on the right.
A moment I always look back to with ShoeOnHead was her video where she took an “Are You a Feminist?” quiz, answered genuinely on what she thought including disagreeing and mocking “SJW” stuff in the quiz, and still got that she was one because her answers legitimately were in line with feminism. It was before I knew she had moved away from the anti-SJW community, and was a video from like 2014 or something. But it told me something about her worldview and actions that I’ve kept in mind since, which is that a lot of people fall into these communities because of dislike for a certain group of people and ignorance of the real arguments being made, and then get stuck because of relationships they build with people who share that dislike, even if they don’t like anything they say except for their shared dislike. It’s a problem Shoe continues to have, but she’s still better now that she promotes a positive view of what she wants more blatantly and cut off some of those friendships with people taking advantage of her and dragging her into their toxicity.
The term SJW means someone who makes a false claim of sexism or racism or homophobia ect. It's basically the same as Woke Scold, except because the term SJW became so popular with the right wingers, the left wingers needed to invent a new term. So being a Feminist and being anti-SJW is not a contradiction. If anything, a Feminist would want to be anti-SJW because SJWs crying wolf on sexism makes it harder for Feminists to fight actual cases of sexism.
I agree with about 90% of what feminists fight for but I don't self-identity as one because I've seen far too many insufferable posts online from feminists like Julie Cohen and Lindy West.
@@CambrianAnomalocaris So then what is the term that Leftists use for other leftists that make false claims of sexism, racism, ect? Or are we to assume that tribalism has gotten so bad that no one ever criticizes anyone on their own side anymore even when they are making that side look bad?
@@greywolf7577 back when the whole anti-SJW boom was going on, I was also under the impression that SJW meant progressive + toxic or progressive + abusive, so yeah basically same as wokescold. However, I do feel there were then and there are now many people who just use SJW to mean progressive. So I think it's a tad more complicated than that.
@@ShalottofCsilla because you may have just hated a subset of the woke group, but there were people in your group that really do hate all women, your comment is like the person who shows up to an anti-mandate protest to root for medical freedom and then looks around and realizes that you are now part of a straight up anti-vax movement that thinks MMR vax causes autism.. this is a common tactic to hijack popular movements and corrupt them and cause them to slowly become more radical.
If I had to identify the underlying problem people have with sh0e and the reason why she often has bad and inconsistent takes, I would say it's her lack of consistent moral tenets. Her opinions and comments seem very guided by her immediate emotional reaction, she then constructs an argument in retrospect to justify her position. That leads to takes that contradict each other and cannot be aligned with consistent morals and beliefs.
Shoe saying she’s never gone after intersectional feminism at 1:58 is a complete and blatant lie. Anyone who followed Shoe in the last 6 years will know this is a lie, but unfortunately she has deleted all of her tweets- can’t imagine why. I want people to move to the left and I am pro redemption always but her revisionism of her past takes and beliefs is gross to me. I will never be able to take this women or her fans seriously but I’m glad she has matured in her views, even if she doesn’t have the spine to own the toxic shit she used to spew out into the world.
What is more likely. That she deletes stuff that doesn't match up with her beliefs now, and forgets some of the stuff she has said, and how she would feel about it today. Or that she's lying because she's scared of people who already can't let shit go, coming after her for stuff that she has thought or said in the past, and doesn't support or stand by now? Answer? It. doesn't. fucking. matter.
@@MelGibsonFan you cared enough to literally watch this video about shoe and read the full comment criticizing shoe so you’re clearly invested in this topic somewhat
Shoe needs to really just own up and say yeah unintentionally I was part of the ANTI-SJW/Feminist Alt right pipeline. Just like Hunter Avalon has done videos dedicated to examining his old views Now versus his new left leaning world views Shoe needs to do the same. I strive to give Shoe the benefit of the doubt but there's something about the way she carries herself that feels very conniving and very insincere. Like she's doing the bare minimum to be passable.
@@ripwildy2022 no I think Shoes believes in what she says it's just that what she believes in is a weird jumble mess of many political ideas that contradict each other. For instance Shoe political views are some conservatism, libertarianism some liberalism, and some leftism. Her political thought is a Frankenstein mess of incoherence. But at times it does seem to be conservative reactionary leaning. That's my main problem with her.
@@SoniaSephia The American political system forces people into a binary of left wing and right wing. But in reality, there is no reason why someone can't agree with one party on one issue and the other party on another issue. So Shoe's views aren't "Frankenstein". Rather she just views the issues independently and makes decisions on each rather than just copying what a party tells her to believe.
I remember that time feminists protested and blocked entry to a talk about male suicide and called the would-be attendees "r🦍ists" and "scum" One guy was even crying, sharing his story on he lost a friend to suicide and they were still berating him... feminism was an absolute shit show for a time
That was horrific, but problem is declaring all of ‘feminism’ to be responsible as opposed to just the women involved. Stuff like that was seized upon to whip up an anti feminist hysteria across much of the internet
@@ianwazowski5607 I need you to think about what you just said... how is attacking suicide survivors either moral, or politically useful to our movement? It’s both an unbelievably shitty thing to do and gives the other side free ammunition.
Honestly, as much as I disagree with Shoe, I think she kind of got me out of the right wing rabbit hole (just to clarify I wasn’t Alt Right or anything too extreme but I was an edgy Libertarian teenager). I realised that leftists weren’t all crazy SJWs. That being said I gotta appreciate any good shitposting connoisseur.
genuinely this was a lovely convo, it was one of the first vaush things I watched shoe frustrates me a lot but vaush and shoe's convos are always great i just wish shoe would like........... not be dumb and block over legit criticism also man vaush looks so much younger nowadays holy shit
Kind of crazy. Almost like personal blocks are different from a platform giving you the boot. Sure, Shoe has had bad takes on those topics, but let's be clear. You're strawmanning, misrepresenting the issue.
@@nohbuddy1 I'm all for enforcing TOS. But that's not the same as when a person prevents others from responding to them. One can be miffed at it, but free speech doesn't guarantee you can respond on a platform to someone. There ARE legit concerns over tech censorship. It's just not the left doing it, which is obvious to anyone who understands the issue. You act like the uneven application of the TOS isn't a known issue.
I really like these throwback videos, but they would be even better if we could find the date of the original stream somewhere in the description or a pinned comment or something.
@@RyanAleckHill where? The closest thing is the link to the original upload. But it's quite impractical if I have to leave this video to check the date. Especially on a phone where you can't open a new tab. Is it a lot of effort to add the date? If so I'll shut up and look for the dates myself. If not I would find it really helpful if that info was easy to find. People's opinions change so much, it would add a lot of context to know when theses conversations happened.
Can’t she just admit she was a big part of the alt right pipeline with her anti SJW bullsh*t apologise and move on. It’s not that hard but the fact she won’t make it hard to trust her.
This is the "Slippery slope fallacy". Shoe had her own views. She wasn't making people move to the far right. If they did that, it was their own decision. Politics is too tribal these days. There is a belief that if you admit that someone on your side is wrong, then you will look weak. So you are forced to defend anyone who is on the same side as you. That's why leftists end up defending SJWs even when SJWs make really dumb arguments. Shoe, on the other hand, is willing to criticize anyone who makes a bad argument, regardless of what side they are on.
@@greywolf7577 bruh she literally defended Lauren Southern who inspired the Christchurch killer as a good friend of hers who just had some “controversial” views and defended Mylo bullying of Leslie Jones off of social media even going so far as Shoe calling her, a black woman, a “gorilla”.
@@sargonsblackgrandfather2072 First, she apologized for the gorilla comment, and second, immediately after making the comment, she compared her own looks to creatures as well. If she was willing to insult her own looks, I don't think we can say that she was treating Leslie Jones worse.
@@greywolf7577 This was great fun to read, thinking about how much the left criticizes the left but you can get Nazis to come to a rally and the right will stand shoulder to shoulder with them.
I think a lot of people think they're being true intellectuals and "above it all" by simply trying to support both sides sometimes. If they agree with a right winger over the left on a handful of things, it makes them feel like they're being more objective.
It's been seven years since I started following her. In absence of even a single instance of a "mask off" incident, I think it's time to declare Sh0e's right-wing proclivities legally dead.
@@erikbrock5444 yeah, people forget how anoying sjw's were 5 years ago. It's not that feminism wasn't a noble goal, just the people on youtube advocating for it jsut seemed to be virtue signalling. I almost didn't start watching Vaush because he was broaching hte topics and just assumed he was onthe man hating feminists side. But after giving him a chance realised he actually has perfectl reasonable takes and approaches good values with logic and reasonableness. Which is why those troublesome sjw's like professor flowers hate him. Remember the british lady Shoe covered who was a "political lesbian" she was attracted to guys but hated them so would only date women. lmao.
@@dan7564 a big part of it wasn't necessarily that the feminists were bad, but that the right wing people were boosting exclusively the bad parts. Or posting out of context clips then extracting the feminist view points far out from their their original intended meaning. things like man spreading were blown way out of proportion and Anita Sarkeesian got way to much shit for stuff she didn't even say.
@@dan7564 I’ve never been bothered by people criticizing feminists/feminism. There’s still a lot to discuss with them. But after a short time, it became obvious that people online were just kicking a dead horse because there was a strong market for it on UA-cam. They would find the craziest people who almost nobody knew and make a whole series about them. It would have been better if the arguments were more drawn out instead of the “Look at these freaks, Lol” tactic. It seems like it was more of a trend than an actual thought-out political position. I notice that they’ve since moved on to trans people as their target. The same content creators are basically doing the same tactics towards them. Blaire White for example started out making content about feminism (like everyone else). Then, she moved on to trans and non-binary people. It’s a predictable grift. I don’t think anyone actually cares that much about these groups of people. It’s all just entertainment.
It's mostly extra content but in times when Vaush is streaming less (like now when he's just been at a keloid surgery and needs some time to recover) we get some throwbacks. I think these are nice.
Well, first you are going to have to specify the kind of feminism your talking about, I'm not sure feminism could ever just be endorsing everything a woman does, at least not in today's political environment. Liberal feminism may well have its problem but, sure, women deserve equal pay for equal job roles, equal access to the job market and a consideration of women in policy and the public sphere. And women are still singled out for on-line bullying by misogynist men/boys
Honestly I confused my own hatred for terfs and swerfs for disagreeing with some of feminism, as low-key they literally are feminazis, but honestly after finding left tube and seeing them tear that shit a new one I realized they weren't actually feminists just assholes using it a shield.
@@j0hnicide The point is that it is sexist to assume that a woman should automatically agree with other women rather than coming up with her own opinion.
Always like shoe back when she was apart of all the Sargon and was dating some dude with a knight helmet. She kinda got me into MRA lol but that lasted less than the anti-feminism. Now I hate them all equally. They're really two sides of the same coin. Using actual problem to sort of install and spread their own hate towards the opposite sex.
Feminism is an expansive and complex movement with good and bad schools of thought but that nonetheless has had an overwelmingly positive impact on humanity. MRAs are a bunch of frustrated white guys with some legitimate grievances spreading boomer memes about 'muh wife'. You can't even't put them on the same pedestal.
As they discuss in this video, feminism isn’t all misandry. The man-hating is where the TERFs come from. But actual feminism is at its core about tearing down the rigidly enforced gender roles of old for both women and men. It’s positive for everybody.
@@ZHike360 the fact you acknowledge they have legitimate grievances yet still think they only do the boomer memes about "muh wife" tells me all I need to know. Feminism may have a longer and more complex history ... but the fact MRAs haven't had any positive impact on society is probably because, to this day, no one (ie people like you) really gives af about those legitimate grievances which further solidifies their importance in society. 100+ years ago, feminists hadn't done shit either. And I'm sure there were plenty of dbags in what ever public square was around back then minimizing and dismissing their grievances as well. You just proved not only that they're two sides of the same coin, but so are their supporters.
I agree MRA and feminism both have similar goals, but how are they trying to spread hate? MRA advocates for men's rights whereas feminism advocates for equality despite its odd name, but then again, "Democratic Republic of North Korea" isn't exactly "democratic". Both are valid.
@@hoominbeeing no, they don't want equality any more than MRA does. If you want to see feminism's true colors propose a law that gives men the right to opt out of fatherhood in much the same way feminist advocate so women can opt out of motherhood. Even the most egalitarian "feminist" will lose their shit. You don't call yourself gay if you're bisexual unless, like NK, you want to give off a false image that doesn't accurately represent you. They each advocate for more rights for their respective sex, period. If you want to know how they spread hate, listen to the examples given in this very video. MRA hate shouldn't be that hard to find either. Yeah, their issues may be legitimate, but a lot of it is rooted and stems from anger and resentment for the opposite sex.
@@azure8696 a "pick-me" is that person who throws the other people in their group, under the bus for the attention of others. The classic pick-me girl tries to be "one of the guys" isn't like other girls. She's into video games and sports and just gets along with guys more than girls. She projects low maintenance and "I really don't understand what the problem is with your girlfriend, i mean, I was just twerking on your lap ironically. Like I wouldn't even twerk for real. Just because it's funny." And yeah, I'm wearing your oversized sweater because I'm one of the guys. It doesn't even look cute on me does it? Actually does it? She's not like other girls.
Sohe and Vaush has to be one of the best combos we can have, Shoe is so... good faith, like she's like a sponge absorbing everything, but unlike Joe Rogan, she doesn't fall for idiocy (that often).
8:55 It's probably unfair to say that ALL the media is left-wing, but a LOT of big media does come from a culture that's so nominally left-wing that it's out of touch. There are media companies, wannabe actors/artists, and tech giants dotting the most bourgeois lefty parts of California to a degree that you don't see anywhere else, seemingly in the entire world. Both Hollywood and Silicon Valley are in similar cultural strata when even most of the very same nation is culturally pretty different from these places. It's stepping over the line to say that there's some kind of conspiracy or that there's no place for right-wing media, but the people in charge of a lot of (especially Internet) media DO come from a culture that's at a point where they moralize left-leaning positions as presuppositions more than they come to those positions as reasoned conclusions. That's just sort of how things are around LA. That element of the media giants leaning left isn't conspiracy; that's just geography.
I guess that's where it would help to learn the difference between what happens on TV and reality. And it's amazing how many decades of conservative media we've been blasted with, was "Little House on the Prairie" an accurate representation of American life? The pendulum swings briefly in the other direction and we've never heard the end of it. Yeah, TV is full of hidden messages and bias.🙄
I liked shoeonhead for a stretch, but man, the red flags just kept piling up. She actually believed BLM was a terrorist organisation, she unironically likes Sargon of Akkad (someone who puts a feeble intellectual veneer on bigoted extremism), she was willing to help a Republican do a P.R. page on social media, she routinely minimises how bad Republican voters are, as if it's elitist to think that of them, she seems to earnestly hate liberals, while not hating genuinely deplorable right-wingers (disliking liberals is fine, hating them while not hating the right is a bad sign- see also: Krystal Ball), she participated in the smearing of Alec Baldwin as a murderer (because he's anti-Trump, and a bit cringe about it), like it's totally normal that right-wingers were doing that, and she minimised the shit out of terrorist Kyle Rittenhouse going out of his way to suppress BLM with violence, as if he was totally innocent (this was in her latest Hellworld video). The last one there was shockingly glib, the way she did it, but what would you expect from somebody gullible enough to buy into far-right narratives like BLM being terrorists?
@@anticorncob6 Sometimes I honestly think a lot of what happened with people like Sargon was that the online left successfully managed to push a lot of people to be anti left. A lot of "gamers" considered themselves to be left leaning, a great portion of the criticism towards people on the "feminist" side was that a lot of their takes were eerie similar conservatives used to preach.
From the very beginning that was always my issue with anti SJW content. That was always a blatantly obvious criticism against anti SJW content. As Kyle said "Ya, it's OBVIOUS TO YOU" but it aint obvious to everyone else. So in my anti SJW criticism I didn't just go on an anti SJW rant. I would off on explicitly why I am against SJWs which had clear implication. For instance, calling them "intellectually lazy" and comparing an SJW to someone like idk.....Ice T who INSTEAD OF CALLING PEOPLE RACIST AS IF THAT'S AN ACTUAL FUCKING ARGUMENT. Ice T who is clearly very smart would make an actual nuanced argument. So I'd point to stuff like that to CONTRAST. Having studied censorship and looked at the right wing in the U.S. PMRC. "Moral majority" Jerry fucking Falwell, etc.....I 100% was able to IMMEDIATELY look at the SJW movement and go "Your the SAME EXACT PEOPLE as Jerry fucking Falwell, "Moral majority", etc. Only your using left wing rhetoric. That is literally the ONLY difference." As I've said time and and time and time again "Just a copy of an imitation." and I despise intellectual laziness. I agree, calling your self "Anti feminist" I always HATED that because it was PLAYING INTO the SJW handbook of "All my enemies are COMMUNIST" OOPS, wrong people. Freudian slip. Let me start over "All my enemies are sexist, anti civil rights, etc." so calling your self an "anti feminist" Well first off, it ISN'T TRUE, and second of all it's playing within the SJW's propaganda and that's another reason why I hate SJWs. GIVING AMMO to the right wing. As Chomsky said these SJWs were a "huge gift to the right wing" and he's correct!!!! Another obvious problem I have with it which again is linked to my hate and dislike of the right wing especially conspiracy theorist, etc is.....the cultural zeitgeist of our time. We have become [as a result of SJWism, Trumpism, political discord from rivals, the mainstream media, etc.] a "post truth-post fact" era which I find ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING. I am fucking DISGUSTED by this post modernism and SJWs HELPED PUSH US THERE. Now it is ALL their fault? Of course not, but they were DEFINITELY part of it. A lot of people [including my self] have also aknowledged this by saying that this Foucaltism [a SJW hero] helped create the rise of fake news and looking into Foucault.....YA, ABSOLUTELY. Foucalt not only made a case for the rise of fake news but made a case for out right fascism. When I literally heard him say that JUSTICE should not be framed as what contitutes what Chomsky referred to as "Better justice" Foucalt literally made the argument of a fascist dictator. That there is no actual "justice" and that it should be framed as a tribal sides game!!!!! As if that isn't fascist dictator thinking!!!!! So Kim Seung Un SHOOTING ME in the head and dumping me into a predug grave for STEALING a corncob because I am starving from famine. or I defaced a propraganda poster, or anything trivial. He would call that "JUSTICE" and according to Foucalt that is "justice". According to me I'd say "NO! THAT IS NOT JUSTICE! THAT IS INJUSTICE!" And this is the man who the SJWs are greatly influenced by?! A man who made FASCIST logic framing it in left wing rhetoric?! NO WONDER why so many of these SJWs are out right fascist as well, right?! "theres gonna be a war" well who will win? "We will win because we are the most powerful. They are wrong and we are right." it's MIGHT MAKES RIGHT fascist mentality. To quote a former Fox news "Military and counterterrorism editor": "The christian fundamentalist movement is one that believes in 'We're right. Your wrong. NO MATTER WHAT.' and I saw a lot of that at fox....we're right, your wrong. No matter what." It isn't about "well what is justice?' it's "justice....doesn't really matter. it's all about what WE WANT. We get to decide what justice is because Justice is what ever we get to make up. So if we decide KILLING EVERYONE is justice. Then it's justice and it's all about US VS THEM." Foucault is right up there with Ayn fucking Rand. A ideological hero to SCUMBAGS. Or Foucault has become what happened with Nietzsche who was exploited by the German fascist regime well after his death. Anyone who knows anything about Nietzsche would know he would of DESPISED and hated these people and most likely would of physically vomited seeing them especially using his name and work to justify their BS. To quote a rap battle with Nietzsche "You tried to plant a new German psyche but you just grew hate. Me no third reichy." But I don't think that's the case. I think it's more gang/dictator mentality. "we got to fight fascism with fascism!' and of course the projection. Again, ANOTHER similar to the right wing. "the left is doing X therefor WE NEED TO DO X." which is all just a justification TO DO X. I am so glad SJW began to be called the "REGRESSIVE" left because they are. it's the same BS. The same projection justifications. The same rhetoric, the same logic, etc. "This isn't equality" but they [the right and left fascist] called it "equality" therefor IT IS NO DIFFERENT THEN YOUR "EQUALITY". EQUALITY.....I MEAN WHO REALLY KNOWS WHAT IS 'BETTER"????? It's just something we get to define and if KILLING ALL MEN OR WOMEN is "equality" TO ME AND MY LUNATIC FRIENDS, well then that's "equality" equal to yours. Don't you get it Shoe? EQUALITY IS JUST A SOCIAL CONSTRUCT. It's all RELATIVE. A dictator shooting me in the head and calling it "justice" makes it "justice" equal to my justice. it's all about WHO WINS in the end. DON'T YOU GET IT?!
Well since you're oversimplifying things, I'm just going to say the whole "anti-SJW" movement is just more anti-intellectualism. "You're a POS if you read ....." doesn't fly with me.
@@nimrodery Well first off...you have to "stick a label" to DIFFERENTIATE between who you are talking about. LOGIC 101. Second of all, I ain't assuming. I am basing it on WHAT THEY SAY and advocate as well as the history of their movement. Then you play the "your oversimplifying things" YA, because I was being GENERAL. LOGIC 101. That doesn't mean I deny nuance. Who's assuming here?! YOU. Your argument is incoherent in terms of dialog "oh your generalizing" Ya, SO WHAT?! That's an ARGUMENT?! Now if I said "every single X is Y" then okay, that is an actual argument. BUT I DIDN'T SAY THAT. Your like Ben Affleck unjustly going after Sam Harris. Anyone watching that would assume SOMETHING BEFORE THIS sparked Affleck's reaction. Because what did Harris say that sparked his reaction of "oh your talking about ALL muslims?!" Sam Harris: Where every criticism of the doctrine of Islam gets conflated with bigotry. "Your lumping ALL muslims together" IS YOUR RESPONSE?! BASED OFF WHAT?! Sam Harris said the exact opposite. What I was doing was speaking in GENERAL about a SPECIFIC GROUP. And of course like any other specific group there are differences between those who are in that group. They believe X, Y, Z to verifying degrees, etc. I would never ever say "oh this group they ALL believe in every single crazy insane thing. They're all this and that." No, of course not.
@@Jaykilljoy-tt9tt Well for one I haven't read Foucalt. Next, if you're saying SJWs just call everyone racist without a "nuanced argument," then you're being intellectually lazy. Compare my behavior to that of Jerry Falwell? What? I'd say you're intellectually lazy but it's not clear you engaged your intellect there. You can't just oversimplify the connection between "anti-SJW" and "anti-feminism," it's essentially the same crowd. We don't like to see the civil rights movement blocked, and we don't like to see feminism reversed. Feminism has a reason to exist, and people who care about civil rights must defend them or we will lose them. Rights are by no means guaranteed. Anyway, I'm not going through the whole thing because it's insane, but you're really oversimplifying things and it's anti-intellectual. And please start using the right "you're," I don't care that much about grammar but you do it so often it's hard to believe you'd even have had access to a class with "101" in the name.
Okay.. then she needs to do a better job showing this to her audience, because every time I click on some Conservative Twins or Daily Wire viewers profile her channel shows up in their subscriptions 🫢
Praise be to the editors, opening up the Vaush Vault in a desperate bid for content 🙏
The Vaulsht™ is an endless treasure trove for the hungry leftist mob
I’m just a young 21 year old Mexican that smoked weed on my UA-cam channel as my job ever since i was shippin em packzz🙏
Gotta reach 100K, you know
@@SevenHunnid okay and?
Tbf you could always just enter the vault yourself in the unlisted streams playlist but I get videos are more convenient
Seems like Shoe is a decent person, which is a reason why I enjoy her content. But it still bothers me that she easily falls for republican propaganda. She doesnt seem hateful, just misguided. I hope she changes for the better, and not just ban everyone who calls her out for using shitty arguments to defend right wing people who like playing the victim, like libsoftiktok.
No, she is just a less popular lower society E Bruenig
@Nani Nano my guess is that it means reactionary right wing culture war shit, the right is the entire culture war they make up the entire thing the left doesn’t even exist in the way the right portrays it to, cancel culture is a made up boogie man, anti SJW stuff is just right wing rage repackaged as the right being a victim.. the twitter mob isn’t an all powerful group
Are you saying the LoTT woman deserved to have her personal details publicly exposed via a major news publication? Just because she aggregated & reposted tik toks people had publicly uploaded? Going viral is part of the implicit consent model of tik tok; LoTT merely expedited the potential, and added her opinion. Even if we find her opinions or intentions distasteful, does that really justify doxxing (& its potential consequences)??
The fact it was carried out by someone who recently went viral for denouncing doxxing is just the beauty of karma & irony.
@@psychegoddessoflight9358 Yes, conservatives deserve to be doxxed. Go watch destiny
@@psychegoddessoflight9358 she wasnt doxxed, it's public info
Woah, editors going way back for content, thank you for providing for us in these dark times 🙏🤤
Sh0e really needs to stop blocking people on Twitter everytime they say something mildly mean and she might have a better following that isn't filled with weird Right-wing and Libertarian simps
I got blocked and I've never said anything about her, I think she follow-policed me or went through my likes, there isn't anything insane but I do follow some crazy people.
What's wild about Shoe blocking so many people is that once when she was simping over Tucker Carlson in her comments, I said something along the lines of, "Hardcore white people shit" and she deleted her comment but didn't block me. After finding out she blocks people for mild criticism, I wonder sometimes how I got a pass.
Eh.. i think you should be able to block whomever you want for whatever reason you want unless you’re like a politician or a major public figure. Shoe is neither.
Everyone needs to get off twitter
@@patientfirbolg3299 So much this. Why people give so much importance to whatever happens on Twitter?
Shame she blocked me on twitter, I think I called her logic flawed or something for simping for a republican
she does that a lot
shame on you for questioning shoe
I'm also a member of the blocked by shoe club
Same. Only person who has ever blocked me. All I did was ask a clarifying question. I'm like the most mild tempered twitter user in the universe.
Your First Sin was to use Twitter, the Second was to expect anything productive to come out of it.
It was around this time that sh0e introduced me (Not personally, obviously) to Vaush. So she can't be *all* bad. Personally I feel like sh0e is a lot like Ethan from H3H3 (as a recent example from Voosh content) in the sense that they aren't genuinely trying to be wrong, but are/have been willing to move on an issue when presented with proper criticism. No matter what, at the end of the day, "fixing"/removing sh0eonhead is very low on the list of things for us to worry about imho.
She's like h3h3 in the way they are both airheaded bufoons
Her screeching on Twitter like a fucking baboon about how the LibsofTicTok PoS got 'doxed' is really fucking grating, at least
Because it's nakedly wrong on every level.
And anyone who brings up how it isn't doxing, no matter how politely, gets blocked.
Ethan's vastly better then she is, she isn't willing to move on shit.
She basically blocks anyone who offers mild critique on twitter, doesn't sound like someone easily willing to move on issues
The issue with winning over reactionaries is that if they don’t do the work to understand that they are falling for an emotional, gut reaction that is based in fear or hate for the unknown they will just fall for the next right wing culture war issue.. they need to dismantle their life long brainwashing of fear and anger to the out group or change or else you get people who call themselves “left” but are constantly helping the right build the narrative that there is an extreme “too far left” crazy wing on the left like there is on the right.
Suggested names;
- Wine Mom Feminism
- Buzzfeed feminism
- Stunted feminism
- Yass Queen Feminism
Consumer feminism
Performative feminism
@@FernandoTorrera Oooh I like Performative Feminism. Also, Corpofeminism.
@@FernandoTorrera Liking performative feminism
This is pathetic you do realise that. Just a bunch of "leftist" men arguing which is the best way to insult feminism as a whole while appearing "woke"
A moment I always look back to with ShoeOnHead was her video where she took an “Are You a Feminist?” quiz, answered genuinely on what she thought including disagreeing and mocking “SJW” stuff in the quiz, and still got that she was one because her answers legitimately were in line with feminism.
It was before I knew she had moved away from the anti-SJW community, and was a video from like 2014 or something. But it told me something about her worldview and actions that I’ve kept in mind since, which is that a lot of people fall into these communities because of dislike for a certain group of people and ignorance of the real arguments being made, and then get stuck because of relationships they build with people who share that dislike, even if they don’t like anything they say except for their shared dislike.
It’s a problem Shoe continues to have, but she’s still better now that she promotes a positive view of what she wants more blatantly and cut off some of those friendships with people taking advantage of her and dragging her into their toxicity.
The term SJW means someone who makes a false claim of sexism or racism or homophobia ect. It's basically the same as Woke Scold, except because the term SJW became so popular with the right wingers, the left wingers needed to invent a new term.
So being a Feminist and being anti-SJW is not a contradiction. If anything, a Feminist would want to be anti-SJW because SJWs crying wolf on sexism makes it harder for Feminists to fight actual cases of sexism.
I agree with about 90% of what feminists fight for but I don't self-identity as one because I've seen far too many insufferable posts online from feminists like Julie Cohen and Lindy West.
@@CambrianAnomalocaris So then what is the term that Leftists use for other leftists that make false claims of sexism, racism, ect? Or are we to assume that tribalism has gotten so bad that no one ever criticizes anyone on their own side anymore even when they are making that side look bad?
@@greywolf7577 back when the whole anti-SJW boom was going on, I was also under the impression that SJW meant progressive + toxic or progressive + abusive, so yeah basically same as wokescold. However, I do feel there were then and there are now many people who just use SJW to mean progressive. So I think it's a tad more complicated than that.
@@ShalottofCsilla because you may have just hated a subset of the woke group, but there were people in your group that really do hate all women, your comment is like the person who shows up to an anti-mandate protest to root for medical freedom and then looks around and realizes that you are now part of a straight up anti-vax movement that thinks MMR vax causes autism.. this is a common tactic to hijack popular movements and corrupt them and cause them to slowly become more radical.
Vaush's headphones look like a death trap trying to decapitate him
If I had to identify the underlying problem people have with sh0e and the reason why she often has bad and inconsistent takes, I would say it's her lack of consistent moral tenets. Her opinions and comments seem very guided by her immediate emotional reaction, she then constructs an argument in retrospect to justify her position. That leads to takes that contradict each other and cannot be aligned with consistent morals and beliefs.
yeah like most people who haven't really thought about their positions, she's a rationaliser.
@anguschandler4482 Are you still saying the same thing now that she's gone full Trad Wife?
Shoe saying she’s never gone after intersectional feminism at 1:58 is a complete and blatant lie. Anyone who followed Shoe in the last 6 years will know this is a lie, but unfortunately she has deleted all of her tweets- can’t imagine why.
I want people to move to the left and I am pro redemption always but her revisionism of her past takes and beliefs is gross to me. I will never be able to take this women or her fans seriously but I’m glad she has matured in her views, even if she doesn’t have the spine to own the toxic shit she used to spew out into the world.
When has she gone against intersectional feminism? I don't remember.
-a person who has followed Shoe for what I believe to be over 6 years
Who cares.
What is more likely. That she deletes stuff that doesn't match up with her beliefs now, and forgets some of the stuff she has said, and how she would feel about it today. Or that she's lying because she's scared of people who already can't let shit go, coming after her for stuff that she has thought or said in the past, and doesn't support or stand by now?
Answer? It. doesn't. fucking. matter.
@@MelGibsonFan you cared enough to literally watch this video about shoe and read the full comment criticizing shoe so you’re clearly invested in this topic somewhat
Can you give an example instead of saying "people who knows knows"
Shoe needs to really just own up and say yeah unintentionally I was part of the ANTI-SJW/Feminist Alt right pipeline. Just like Hunter Avalon has done videos dedicated to examining his old views Now versus his new left leaning world views Shoe needs to do the same.
I strive to give Shoe the benefit of the doubt but there's something about the way she carries herself that feels very conniving and very insincere. Like she's doing the bare minimum to be passable.
I'm still not 100% convinced that she isn't a grifter.
There are "SJW" types who do need criticism.
@@ripwildy2022 no I think Shoes believes in what she says it's just that what she believes in is a weird jumble mess of many political ideas that contradict each other. For instance Shoe political views are some conservatism, libertarianism some liberalism, and some leftism. Her political thought is a Frankenstein mess of incoherence. But at times it does seem to be conservative reactionary leaning. That's my main problem with her.
@@SoniaSephia The American political system forces people into a binary of left wing and right wing. But in reality, there is no reason why someone can't agree with one party on one issue and the other party on another issue. So Shoe's views aren't "Frankenstein". Rather she just views the issues independently and makes decisions on each rather than just copying what a party tells her to believe.
She probably still agrees with/likes a lot of her old content. She just changed her focus.
I remember that time feminists protested and blocked entry to a talk about male suicide and called the would-be attendees "r🦍ists" and "scum"
One guy was even crying, sharing his story on he lost a friend to suicide and they were still berating him...
feminism was an absolute shit show for a time
Your point being?
@@strega0 yikes
That was horrific, but problem is declaring all of ‘feminism’ to be responsible as opposed to just the women involved. Stuff like that was seized upon to whip up an anti feminist hysteria across much of the internet
@@ananousous I don't recall. Did it have anything to do with Paul Elam?
@@ianwazowski5607
I need you to think about what you just said... how is attacking suicide survivors either moral, or politically useful to our movement? It’s both an unbelievably shitty thing to do and gives the other side free ammunition.
I dislike pretty much everything Shoe says politically but I gotta admit she's possibly the funniest shitposter on twitter
Shoe on head is an ableist phrase
@@JassZoigel what?
Honestly, as much as I disagree with Shoe, I think she kind of got me out of the right wing rabbit hole (just to clarify I wasn’t Alt Right or anything too extreme but I was an edgy Libertarian teenager). I realised that leftists weren’t all crazy SJWs. That being said I gotta appreciate any good shitposting connoisseur.
@@JassZoigel Twitter moment
That's why it's a good idea to make fun of all extremes. Then you don't even have to clarify your own positions
i can't finish two minutes of any video with shoe's voice oh myyy
The sideshave is too powerful
And still no cyber truck, three years later.
genuinely this was a lovely convo, it was one of the first vaush things I watched
shoe frustrates me a lot but vaush and shoe's convos are always great
i just wish shoe would like...........
not be dumb and block over legit criticism
also man vaush looks so much younger nowadays holy shit
now do Vaush watching Shoe for the first time
I don’t think shoe has anything to prove vaush was outside her house, considering he destroyed the evidence
Sh0e=God tier takes
This Voush guy should debate Vaush.
Nah he’d get destroyed
@@davidmadureira45 because of time travel paradoxes, of course.
Wow it’s season 1 Vaush
shoe doesn't strike me as someone who is intelligent..
She’s not. Just has a legion of terminally online virgin males propping her up. She’s little more than a ”political” socialite.
This is great. This is exactly why i stopped attending the feminist group meetings IRL.
Shoe had never even heard of the concept of "feminism" before this talk, I wager
Ah, the Fat-Ian-times.
Funny you say that because he doesn't look fat here at all. Must be superior angle choice lol
Believe in free speech but blocks you if you call her out lmfao
because that's what free speech is
@@jjdude5531 Not when you yourself whine about Twitter censorship and defend Joe Rogan
Kind of crazy. Almost like personal blocks are different from a platform giving you the boot.
Sure, Shoe has had bad takes on those topics, but let's be clear. You're strawmanning, misrepresenting the issue.
@@zacheryeckard3051 It really isn't and that isn't what a straw man is. Every website has a TOS and you don't have a right to post on a website
@@nohbuddy1 I'm all for enforcing TOS.
But that's not the same as when a person prevents others from responding to them.
One can be miffed at it, but free speech doesn't guarantee you can respond on a platform to someone.
There ARE legit concerns over tech censorship.
It's just not the left doing it, which is obvious to anyone who understands the issue.
You act like the uneven application of the TOS isn't a known issue.
When do we get to see Vaush'es new horse ears?
I really like these throwback videos, but they would be even better if we could find the date of the original stream somewhere in the description or a pinned comment or something.
@@RyanAleckHill where? The closest thing is the link to the original upload. But it's quite impractical if I have to leave this video to check the date. Especially on a phone where you can't open a new tab. Is it a lot of effort to add the date? If so I'll shut up and look for the dates myself. If not I would find it really helpful if that info was easy to find. People's opinions change so much, it would add a lot of context to know when theses conversations happened.
@@RyanAleckHill awesome! Thanks for adding it.
"I'm not like the other leftist." Basically just another "pick me girl".
Basically
Always has been.
Criticizing Feminists with bad takes doesn't make you a "pick me".
Sadly the Picrew Left vehemently disagrees
@@SA-mo3hq I honestly have no idea what that means.
Can’t she just admit she was a big part of the alt right pipeline with her anti SJW bullsh*t apologise and move on. It’s not that hard but the fact she won’t make it hard to trust her.
Just FYI: This is a two and a half years old clip.
This is the "Slippery slope fallacy". Shoe had her own views. She wasn't making people move to the far right. If they did that, it was their own decision.
Politics is too tribal these days. There is a belief that if you admit that someone on your side is wrong, then you will look weak. So you are forced to defend anyone who is on the same side as you. That's why leftists end up defending SJWs even when SJWs make really dumb arguments.
Shoe, on the other hand, is willing to criticize anyone who makes a bad argument, regardless of what side they are on.
@@greywolf7577 bruh she literally defended Lauren Southern who inspired the Christchurch killer as a good friend of hers who just had some “controversial” views and defended Mylo bullying of Leslie Jones off of social media even going so far as Shoe calling her, a black woman, a “gorilla”.
@@sargonsblackgrandfather2072 First, she apologized for the gorilla comment, and second, immediately after making the comment, she compared her own looks to creatures as well. If she was willing to insult her own looks, I don't think we can say that she was treating Leslie Jones worse.
@@greywolf7577 This was great fun to read, thinking about how much the left criticizes the left but you can get Nazis to come to a rally and the right will stand shoulder to shoulder with them.
vaush you can’t just call everyone you don’t like a fascist my man
I think a lot of people think they're being true intellectuals and "above it all" by simply trying to support both sides sometimes. If they agree with a right winger over the left on a handful of things, it makes them feel like they're being more objective.
If you watch close enough you can see Vaush's old GPU
Is it time to interpret Sh0e as generously as possible and excuse every blatant dog whistle again?
dog whistling what?
It's been seven years since I started following her. In absence of even a single instance of a "mask off" incident, I think it's time to declare Sh0e's right-wing proclivities legally dead.
@@erikbrock5444 yeah, people forget how anoying sjw's were 5 years ago. It's not that feminism wasn't a noble goal, just the people on youtube advocating for it jsut seemed to be virtue signalling. I almost didn't start watching Vaush because he was broaching hte topics and just assumed he was onthe man hating feminists side. But after giving him a chance realised he actually has perfectl reasonable takes and approaches good values with logic and reasonableness. Which is why those troublesome sjw's like professor flowers hate him.
Remember the british lady Shoe covered who was a "political lesbian" she was attracted to guys but hated them so would only date women. lmao.
@@dan7564 a big part of it wasn't necessarily that the feminists were bad, but that the right wing people were boosting exclusively the bad parts. Or posting out of context clips then extracting the feminist view points far out from their their original intended meaning. things like man spreading were blown way out of proportion and Anita Sarkeesian got way to much shit for stuff she didn't even say.
@@dan7564 I’ve never been bothered by people criticizing feminists/feminism. There’s still a lot to discuss with them. But after a short time, it became obvious that people online were just kicking a dead horse because there was a strong market for it on UA-cam.
They would find the craziest people who almost nobody knew and make a whole series about them. It would have been better if the arguments were more drawn out instead of the “Look at these freaks, Lol” tactic.
It seems like it was more of a trend than an actual thought-out political position. I notice that they’ve since moved on to trans people as their target. The same content creators are basically doing the same tactics towards them. Blaire White for example started out making content about feminism (like everyone else). Then, she moved on to trans and non-binary people. It’s a predictable grift. I don’t think anyone actually cares that much about these groups of people. It’s all just entertainment.
Damn she was still dating Greg back then
Has the pit turned into an archive channel? I thought it was supposed to be a place where extra new content landed.
It's mostly extra content but in times when Vaush is streaming less (like now when he's just been at a keloid surgery and needs some time to recover) we get some throwbacks. I think these are nice.
woah there's alot more echoes in old chat
Wow vaush’s hair grew a lot since the surgery
Well, first you are going to have to specify the kind of feminism your talking about, I'm not sure feminism could ever just be endorsing everything a woman does, at least not in today's political environment. Liberal feminism may well have its problem but, sure, women deserve equal pay for equal job roles, equal access to the job market and a consideration of women in policy and the public sphere. And women are still singled out for on-line bullying by misogynist men/boys
Honestly I confused my own hatred for terfs and swerfs for disagreeing with some of feminism, as low-key they literally are feminazis, but honestly after finding left tube and seeing them tear that shit a new one I realized they weren't actually feminists just assholes using it a shield.
I feel like these things shouldn't be "feminism" they should just be basic human decency.
@@JustAGuyWhoLikesStuff. Plus we already have them.
@@hoominbeeing not really
shoe = pick me
Geez, these days any woman who doesn't actively hate men is seen as a pick me.
@@greywolf7577 mental gymnastics 🤸♂️
@@j0hnicide The point is that it is sexist to assume that a woman should automatically agree with other women rather than coming up with her own opinion.
Alot of feminists are man hating bigots and Shoe was right to call them out. Suck it up.
Oh shit, is that the origins of the Vaush/Shoe friendship? 😀
Haven't you posted that already?
Her "internalized misogyny" skit is freaking hilarious. I'm glad she didn't cave in to the pressure to take it down.
Always like shoe back when she was apart of all the Sargon and was dating some dude with a knight helmet. She kinda got me into MRA lol but that lasted less than the anti-feminism. Now I hate them all equally. They're really two sides of the same coin. Using actual problem to sort of install and spread their own hate towards the opposite sex.
Feminism is an expansive and complex movement with good and bad schools of thought but that nonetheless has had an overwelmingly positive impact on humanity.
MRAs are a bunch of frustrated white guys with some legitimate grievances spreading boomer memes about 'muh wife'.
You can't even't put them on the same pedestal.
As they discuss in this video, feminism isn’t all misandry. The man-hating is where the TERFs come from. But actual feminism is at its core about tearing down the rigidly enforced gender roles of old for both women and men. It’s positive for everybody.
@@ZHike360 the fact you acknowledge they have legitimate grievances yet still think they only do the boomer memes about "muh wife" tells me all I need to know. Feminism may have a longer and more complex history ... but the fact MRAs haven't had any positive impact on society is probably because, to this day, no one (ie people like you) really gives af about those legitimate grievances which further solidifies their importance in society.
100+ years ago, feminists hadn't done shit either. And I'm sure there were plenty of dbags in what ever public square was around back then minimizing and dismissing their grievances as well.
You just proved not only that they're two sides of the same coin, but so are their supporters.
I agree MRA and feminism both have similar goals, but how are they trying to spread hate?
MRA advocates for men's rights whereas feminism advocates for equality despite its odd name, but then again, "Democratic Republic of North Korea" isn't exactly "democratic".
Both are valid.
@@hoominbeeing no, they don't want equality any more than MRA does. If you want to see feminism's true colors propose a law that gives men the right to opt out of fatherhood in much the same way feminist advocate so women can opt out of motherhood. Even the most egalitarian "feminist" will lose their shit. You don't call yourself gay if you're bisexual unless, like NK, you want to give off a false image that doesn't accurately represent you. They each advocate for more rights for their respective sex, period. If you want to know how they spread hate, listen to the examples given in this very video. MRA hate shouldn't be that hard to find either. Yeah, their issues may be legitimate, but a lot of it is rooted and stems from anger and resentment for the opposite sex.
What Shoe derisively called "pop feminism" is mainstream feminism. That is to say she was actually being too charitable.
I just call feminism "feminism," but I don't hate it when other groups experience rights.
Shoe is the original and ultimate "pick-ne" you'll never change my mind.
What's a "pick-ne" ?😆
Blaire White.
@@azure8696 a "pick-me" is that person who throws the other people in their group, under the bus for the attention of others.
The classic pick-me girl tries to be "one of the guys" isn't like other girls. She's into video games and sports and just gets along with guys more than girls. She projects low maintenance and "I really don't understand what the problem is with your girlfriend, i mean, I was just twerking on your lap ironically. Like I wouldn't even twerk for real. Just because it's funny." And yeah, I'm wearing your oversized sweater because I'm one of the guys. It doesn't even look cute on me does it? Actually does it?
She's not like other girls.
anyone notice that vaush has gotten alot better lately at talking or just me lol.
Shooo!
Shoe is the GOAT. Stop fucking with Shoe and just let her say funny shit.
Lol Vaush is definitely slipping if he has to bust out the vault since he won't take on any challenging debates
Baby Shoe
Sohe and Vaush has to be one of the best combos we can have, Shoe is so... good faith, like she's like a sponge absorbing everything, but unlike Joe Rogan, she doesn't fall for idiocy (that often).
Is this a convo from way back when? Vaush looks chubby here.
wait this is 3 years old??? LOL
How old is this? His head looks shaped different, maybe it’s an old camera or something?
Dec 19 in 2019 is day this streamed
I love this phase where Shoe opens up and owns up to what she changed her views on with no shame
I miss the hair
Shoe not that bad?
Comment for the algorithm gods.
Cope and Change
8:55 It's probably unfair to say that ALL the media is left-wing, but a LOT of big media does come from a culture that's so nominally left-wing that it's out of touch. There are media companies, wannabe actors/artists, and tech giants dotting the most bourgeois lefty parts of California to a degree that you don't see anywhere else, seemingly in the entire world. Both Hollywood and Silicon Valley are in similar cultural strata when even most of the very same nation is culturally pretty different from these places.
It's stepping over the line to say that there's some kind of conspiracy or that there's no place for right-wing media, but the people in charge of a lot of (especially Internet) media DO come from a culture that's at a point where they moralize left-leaning positions as presuppositions more than they come to those positions as reasoned conclusions. That's just sort of how things are around LA. That element of the media giants leaning left isn't conspiracy; that's just geography.
I guess that's where it would help to learn the difference between what happens on TV and reality. And it's amazing how many decades of conservative media we've been blasted with, was "Little House on the Prairie" an accurate representation of American life? The pendulum swings briefly in the other direction and we've never heard the end of it. Yeah, TV is full of hidden messages and bias.🙄
… but is shoe bad?
I liked shoeonhead for a stretch, but man, the red flags just kept piling up. She actually believed BLM was a terrorist organisation, she unironically likes Sargon of Akkad (someone who puts a feeble intellectual veneer on bigoted extremism), she was willing to help a Republican do a P.R. page on social media, she routinely minimises how bad Republican voters are, as if it's elitist to think that of them, she seems to earnestly hate liberals, while not hating genuinely deplorable right-wingers (disliking liberals is fine, hating them while not hating the right is a bad sign- see also: Krystal Ball), she participated in the smearing of Alec Baldwin as a murderer (because he's anti-Trump, and a bit cringe about it), like it's totally normal that right-wingers were doing that, and she minimised the shit out of terrorist Kyle Rittenhouse going out of his way to suppress BLM with violence, as if he was totally innocent (this was in her latest Hellworld video). The last one there was shockingly glib, the way she did it, but what would you expect from somebody gullible enough to buy into far-right narratives like BLM being terrorists?
Yes. But Vaush is stupid and had a American military invader on his channel more recently and simped for him soooooo.
Where did she say BLM is a terrorist org? I've never heard this claim about her before
She doesn't like Sargon anymore. She USED to like him, and he used to be more left-leaning and reasonable.
@@whatifiputsomethingsilly I remember her saying it in a video, but I really can't remember which.
@@anticorncob6 Sometimes I honestly think a lot of what happened with people like Sargon was that the online left successfully managed to push a lot of people to be anti left. A lot of "gamers" considered themselves to be left leaning, a great portion of the criticism towards people on the "feminist" side was that a lot of their takes were eerie similar conservatives used to preach.
still a pick-me
Angel Thump stuffs
is that boxxy?
From the very beginning that was always my issue with anti SJW content. That was always a blatantly obvious criticism against anti SJW content. As Kyle said "Ya, it's OBVIOUS TO YOU" but it aint obvious to everyone else. So in my anti SJW criticism I didn't just go on an anti SJW rant. I would off on explicitly why I am against SJWs which had clear implication. For instance, calling them "intellectually lazy" and comparing an SJW to someone like idk.....Ice T who INSTEAD OF CALLING PEOPLE RACIST AS IF THAT'S AN ACTUAL FUCKING ARGUMENT. Ice T who is clearly very smart would make an actual nuanced argument. So I'd point to stuff like that to CONTRAST. Having studied censorship and looked at the right wing in the U.S. PMRC. "Moral majority" Jerry fucking Falwell, etc.....I 100% was able to IMMEDIATELY look at the SJW movement and go "Your the SAME EXACT PEOPLE as Jerry fucking Falwell, "Moral majority", etc. Only your using left wing rhetoric. That is literally the ONLY difference." As I've said time and and time and time again "Just a copy of an imitation." and I despise intellectual laziness.
I agree, calling your self "Anti feminist" I always HATED that because it was PLAYING INTO the SJW handbook of "All my enemies are COMMUNIST" OOPS, wrong people. Freudian slip. Let me start over "All my enemies are sexist, anti civil rights, etc." so calling your self an "anti feminist" Well first off, it ISN'T TRUE, and second of all it's playing within the SJW's propaganda and that's another reason why I hate SJWs. GIVING AMMO to the right wing. As Chomsky said these SJWs were a "huge gift to the right wing" and he's correct!!!!
Another obvious problem I have with it which again is linked to my hate and dislike of the right wing especially conspiracy theorist, etc is.....the cultural zeitgeist of our time. We have become [as a result of SJWism, Trumpism, political discord from rivals, the mainstream media, etc.] a "post truth-post fact" era which I find ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING. I am fucking DISGUSTED by this post modernism and SJWs HELPED PUSH US THERE. Now it is ALL their fault? Of course not, but they were DEFINITELY part of it. A lot of people [including my self] have also aknowledged this by saying that this Foucaltism [a SJW hero] helped create the rise of fake news and looking into Foucault.....YA, ABSOLUTELY. Foucalt not only made a case for the rise of fake news but made a case for out right fascism. When I literally heard him say that JUSTICE should not be framed as what contitutes what Chomsky referred to as "Better justice" Foucalt literally made the argument of a fascist dictator. That there is no actual "justice" and that it should be framed as a tribal sides game!!!!! As if that isn't fascist dictator thinking!!!!! So Kim Seung Un SHOOTING ME in the head and dumping me into a predug grave for STEALING a corncob because I am starving from famine. or I defaced a propraganda poster, or anything trivial. He would call that "JUSTICE" and according to Foucalt that is "justice". According to me I'd say "NO! THAT IS NOT JUSTICE! THAT IS INJUSTICE!" And this is the man who the SJWs are greatly influenced by?! A man who made FASCIST logic framing it in left wing rhetoric?! NO WONDER why so many of these SJWs are out right fascist as well, right?!
"theres gonna be a war" well who will win?
"We will win because we are the most powerful. They are wrong and we are right." it's MIGHT MAKES RIGHT fascist mentality.
To quote a former Fox news "Military and counterterrorism editor": "The christian fundamentalist movement is one that believes in 'We're right. Your wrong. NO MATTER WHAT.' and I saw a lot of that at fox....we're right, your wrong. No matter what." It isn't about "well what is justice?' it's "justice....doesn't really matter. it's all about what WE WANT. We get to decide what justice is because Justice is what ever we get to make up. So if we decide KILLING EVERYONE is justice. Then it's justice and it's all about US VS THEM."
Foucault is right up there with Ayn fucking Rand. A ideological hero to SCUMBAGS.
Or Foucault has become what happened with Nietzsche who was exploited by the German fascist regime well after his death. Anyone who knows anything about Nietzsche would know he would of DESPISED and hated these people and most likely would of physically vomited seeing them especially using his name and work to justify their BS.
To quote a rap battle with Nietzsche "You tried to plant a new German psyche but you just grew hate. Me no third reichy."
But I don't think that's the case. I think it's more gang/dictator mentality. "we got to fight fascism with fascism!' and of course the projection. Again, ANOTHER similar to the right wing. "the left is doing X therefor WE NEED TO DO X." which is all just a justification TO DO X. I am so glad SJW began to be called the "REGRESSIVE" left because they are. it's the same BS. The same projection justifications. The same rhetoric, the same logic, etc.
"This isn't equality" but they [the right and left fascist] called it "equality" therefor IT IS NO DIFFERENT THEN YOUR "EQUALITY". EQUALITY.....I MEAN WHO REALLY KNOWS WHAT IS 'BETTER"????? It's just something we get to define and if KILLING ALL MEN OR WOMEN is "equality" TO ME AND MY LUNATIC FRIENDS, well then that's "equality" equal to yours. Don't you get it Shoe? EQUALITY IS JUST A SOCIAL CONSTRUCT. It's all RELATIVE. A dictator shooting me in the head and calling it "justice" makes it "justice" equal to my justice. it's all about WHO WINS in the end. DON'T YOU GET IT?!
That's hilarious you can accuse people of being intellectually lazy then assume peoples attitudes and stick a label on them.
Well since you're oversimplifying things, I'm just going to say the whole "anti-SJW" movement is just more anti-intellectualism. "You're a POS if you read ....." doesn't fly with me.
@@nimrodery Well first off...you have to "stick a label" to DIFFERENTIATE between who you are talking about. LOGIC 101. Second of all, I ain't assuming. I am basing it on WHAT THEY SAY and advocate as well as the history of their movement.
Then you play the "your oversimplifying things" YA, because I was being GENERAL. LOGIC 101. That doesn't mean I deny nuance.
Who's assuming here?! YOU.
Your argument is incoherent in terms of dialog "oh your generalizing" Ya, SO WHAT?! That's an ARGUMENT?! Now if I said "every single X is Y" then okay, that is an actual argument. BUT I DIDN'T SAY THAT.
Your like Ben Affleck unjustly going after Sam Harris. Anyone watching that would assume SOMETHING BEFORE THIS sparked Affleck's reaction. Because what did Harris say that sparked his reaction of "oh your talking about ALL muslims?!"
Sam Harris: Where every criticism of the doctrine of Islam gets conflated with bigotry.
"Your lumping ALL muslims together" IS YOUR RESPONSE?! BASED OFF WHAT?!
Sam Harris said the exact opposite.
What I was doing was speaking in GENERAL about a SPECIFIC GROUP.
And of course like any other specific group there are differences between those who are in that group. They believe X, Y, Z to verifying degrees, etc.
I would never ever say "oh this group they ALL believe in every single crazy insane thing. They're all this and that." No, of course not.
@@Jaykilljoy-tt9tt Well for one I haven't read Foucalt. Next, if you're saying SJWs just call everyone racist without a "nuanced argument," then you're being intellectually lazy. Compare my behavior to that of Jerry Falwell? What? I'd say you're intellectually lazy but it's not clear you engaged your intellect there.
You can't just oversimplify the connection between "anti-SJW" and "anti-feminism," it's essentially the same crowd. We don't like to see the civil rights movement blocked, and we don't like to see feminism reversed. Feminism has a reason to exist, and people who care about civil rights must defend them or we will lose them. Rights are by no means guaranteed.
Anyway, I'm not going through the whole thing because it's insane, but you're really oversimplifying things and it's anti-intellectual. And please start using the right "you're," I don't care that much about grammar but you do it so often it's hard to believe you'd even have had access to a class with "101" in the name.
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