Please stop blaming the mother for what his done. Yes the mother was wrong, but he tricked her. All pedos say that yet u talk about it like if you believe anything this garbage says.
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@@spawnaka6703 The MOTHER should have protected her DAUGHTER, instead of sending a grown man into her bedroom to sleep with her, so NO, I for one will NEVER stop blaming Jennifer! You're out of your mind, I hope you dont have kids!
VINNIE, this case is similar to that of BRITTANY PILKINGTON from Bellefontaine Ohio. Her mother had been in a relationship with a man, who like Stephan Sterns took on the "fatherly" role in Brittany's life, at some point when she was a young teen he began sexually abusing her as well. The mom and him split up by the time Brittany was 16 I believe and she delivered her first child, who was fathered by Joseph Pilkington at age 17, and went on to have 3 more children. Long story short, I believe she suffocated 3 of the 4 children they had together before authorities caught on and she had mental issues which kept her from receiving the death penalty! However, though it was brought out in court, stepfather Joseph Pilkington was never charged, nor was her mother!
Don’t hold your breath. Jen will be on the stand and Stephan’s defence will try and pin it on her but she is not going to be held accountable for her bad parenting unfortunately
She really didn't know....as a small child who went through this...the shame I Know Maddie felt kept her quiet and men can hide stuff in ways you can't even imagine.
@@niknewman9118 Nobody believes that her mom, Jen, didn't know. We might believe her if she hadn't reacted so weirdly to the photos of him sexually attacking Maddie. She literally called his parents to tell them to get him a lawyer. She clearly did not care about her daughter that much and her focus after finding all that gruesome information was on saving Stephen, and not on empathizing with her daughter, who had been sexually molested for years. All data points to the fact that she pretended not to know, but she knew what he was doing. She made like she didn't know, but it was very clear she knew and approved since she sent him regurarly to sleep in Maddie's bed all night. She might not have thought immediately he killed her, but I also didn't feel much feeling or worry on her part for Maddie's dissapearance.
Especially, when the daughter is STILL a child !! WHAT KIND of mother would ALLOW such an INFAMY on her OWN child ?? Being the s****l ab**e had been going on since the child was FOUR YRS OLD ?? TRUTHFULLY, My ONLY HOPE is they BOTH meet their END in prison !!
A very nieve one would certainly be that stupid.....sadly....my mom was very unaware of what I went through for 2...3 years. I was 6...7....8...it still haunts me some times...but it wasn't mom's fault. She had NO clue this mentally challenged man was "making me ride pony" in a very strange way...
I agree with you 100%, Cara! Jennifer Soto was the willing enabler, the one who allowed -- and even expected -- Sterns and Madeline to sleep in the same bed, especially when she needed "to get her rest." What mother does that?
I agree. What a loser mother she was and seemed her family didn't care what was going on either. That poor girl omg what a sad life she had. No love and no one seemed to care. 😢
@@donnasanderson4829 -- As a mother myself, I find it disgusting and deeply nauseating that Jennifer Soto -- the so-called mother of a very young victim of the worst crimes ever perpetrated against a child -- has the gall to come up with excuses and justifications for her delinquent behavior as Madeline's caregiver and protector with the coldness of an iceberg. Jennifer provided Sterns exactly what he wanted: a young and innocent sacrificial lamb. I'm no lawyer; but I know something about common sense and morals. Although her testimony is not necessary to convict Stephan Sterns, I can't understand why Jennifer Soto isn't charged with, at the very least, facilitation of a crime against a minor. Donna, there's no way that she didn't know what was happening in her own bed. No way!
I don’t get it either. What is with the Prosecutor?? Is it laziness? - bc there’s not a jury on earth that wouldn’t convict her. Come on!! Surely neglect at the very least?
Its nice to see vinnie recognising and respecting Gizalas efforts. She's such a great crime content maker. And vinnie being the crime news icon that he is makes the respect he gives Gizala so much more meaningful. It makes my heart glad to see this as shes such a nice woman and a totally thorough and dedicated crime content creater. She deserves recognition from the best top people. Go Grislies!!!!
My husband and I were together 35 years before he passed in 2022, we had three daughters between us, he would have NEVER allowed ANY of our GIRLS to climb into a BED with him, whether to sleep or otherwise! We also had 4 granddaughters and he was the same way with them! I dont understand what the hell the mother in this case was thinking, telling a grown ass man to SLEEP WITH HER DAUGHTER!
Let us not forget that they were not together so, how can she justify an ex-bf wanting to come over and sleep with her child. The levels of sickness and depravity is beyond comprehension.
When I was little I was insanely afraid of the dark and my mum only worked night shifts and I would sleep in my mum's bed next to my dad. He was never inappropriate and we would do fun things together like watching cartoons, reading comic books, reading books, drawing or playing fun games. Though I had my own blanket and never liked being next to him in a close way. He was a good dad taking care of me like a dad should by protecting me, calming me or distracting me from being scared. If it was a step-dad, no way!
If there is nothing else as evidence, the worst they have on her, is abuse, and that may not be easy to get a conviction over, and if likely not a long time. They would need actual evidence she was aware of the abuse, and or murder, to charge her.
Exactly. I agree she should be locked up but we could make the excuse for people who bring their kids to church when we know that there are several instances of pastors and priests abusing kids and kids being too scared to speak up. There is no law that prevents someone from letting their daaughter sleep in the same bed as their boyfriend
I used to work with a guy who was arrested for having a years long relationship with a young teen. He met the girl when she was three years old because he used to date her mother. Mom went to jail and she called him for emotional support because He was a in school to be a social worker. When he got busted, he had pictures on his computer. And when he was arrested, he blamed her saying “she didn’t dress like a 15 year old.” he got like 10 years, but he gotten the most trouble for the pictures rather than destroying this poor child’s life.
The MOTHER of Maddie should be locked up also …....she is just as evil as he is. I mean who sends their 13 year old daughter to sleep with her ex bf??Stephan said he had the world's shittiest birthday present ever? Gee, Maddie got murdered for HER birthday.
The fact that Jen Soto hasn’t been charged with anything yet is insane to me. I hope that it’s simply because they’re getting as much as they can out of her and in turn building the strongest case possible against her. But I swear if they end up offering her immunity or some nonsense like that, I will have officially lost faith in our justice system. Protecting a child is your #1 obligation. And it seems that she failed to do that and also facilitated this disgusting behavior and tragedy. If this precious child survived, she would have a lifetime of trauma to overcome. This whole case is so tragic. So many adults failed her and abused her. She gave all of the flags to people that were meant to protect her. Apparently she had to say the words “my mom’s boyfriend is raping me and selling photos and videos of it” for anything to be done. And even then, I’m not so confident anything by would be done. But in other jurisdictions and likely this one as well, parents get a CPS case over light spankings. Don’t leave a mark that someone else can see, it never happened. Our system is so broken. Send these two to the chair. Prayers for the rest of the family and Madeline ❤️
She was only given partial immunity so they could interview her. So anything she said in the interview can’t be used against her. However, if they find it another way she can be charged and brought to trial as well.
There is a difference in what the police does, they investigate and can charge arrest someone, and the justice system, meaning the prosecutor and court system. You need actual proof to find someone guilty in court. You can’t just charge or arrest someone, without evidence.
I was a single mom, my daughter is grown now. My mother was very strict about guys, boyfriends, males in general when I was growing up. When I had my daughter, I set the same rules that I had to follow. ~ No kids sit on laps, they can sit on the knee, NO LAPS ~ You don’t walk around in PJs around the house ~ if you give someone a hug you hug from the side not the front She didn’t date when I was growing up. So, didn’t have that dynamic. Now, my rules for my house. When I was in a relationship, (I met a man when she was 3 and we separated when she was 18). He wasn’t her father. He was a great guy, BUT that doesn’t matter. Yes, having help is amazing when your a single parent, but my child’s safety came first. It wasn’t about me, it was about her. I didn’t think he was a p3do he wouldn’t have been in my life. He was an amazing guy. He treated her amazing. His family accepted her. He raised her for 15 years. Yet, As a mother, we protect our children. You treat sits like that the same regardless of who it is. YOU NEVER KNOW! So these were my “rules” ~ No one that is not family changes diapers (unless emergency) ~ step dad didn’t give baths ~ step dad didn’t get her dressed ~ step dad didn’t assist with bringing her to the bathroom ~ step dad didn’t watch her if I needed a babysitter she went to my mom, sister, best friend ~ NO CHILD BELONGS IN YOUR BED With you and ESPECIALLY NOT WITH STEP DAD IN BED TOO! ~ when my daughter got scared of storms I would grab her mattress, bring in my room, got her calmed down and she slept next to me on her mattress. Not my bed! Not with us! Nope! ~ didn’t walk around in just a tshirt NOPE DONT CARE HOW OLD. Nope! ~ don’t run around the house naked as some little kids tend to do ~ didn’t change her in front of him or any other man, friends, uncles, etc.. Ladies, MEN PREY ON SINGLE MOTHERS!! Men PREY on mothers that get “benefits”. I hate to tell ya, but they do!!! A P3DO loves a single mother, with kids, especially if she’s struggling!!! Especially if she’s trauma broken. It’s like they can spot a woman who has had it rough. That’s who they look for! Please, BACKGROUND CHECK! ASK QUESTIONS - ESPECIALLY IF THEY ARE NOT “ALLOWED” to see their own kids. WHY?! Check the sex offender website! Check the state judicial system for convictions or recent charges. I am a product of a P3DO, I didn’t know it til I was 23 and had this nasty memory and I was like “WTF Is wrong with me?! Why the heck am I envisioning that?!” It messed me up!!! To have something pop in your head that feels like a memory, but you don’t remember it ever happening! Well, I asked my sister about the house, the people, the room, even down to The dang bedspread, bedside table, dresser, lamp, placement of this bedroom. My sister replied with “Holy crap! How do you remember that house?! You were only 3! You described it to a T!” Well, that was my validation that I wasn’t losing my mind thinking about something so vile! It happened. It was real. The guy is currently in prison for crimes on children. Go figure. Moral of that story is This was done by my brother and sisters really good best friend!! I was 3 my siblings were 13 and 15!! YOU just NEVER KNOW MOM/DAD.. I cannot stand all these stories about kids being assaulted and I’m LIKE WHERE THE EFF IS THE PARENT?!!! WHY DID THEY HAVE SO MUCH FREEDOM AND ACCESS?!! Lastly, talk to your kids!!!! Make them understand they can tell you anything. That you will never ever get upset at them for coming to you! Make them know you ARE THEIR SAFE SPACE! Their PROTECTOR! Tell them that it doesn’t matter what anyone tells them THEY CAN TELL YOU ANYTHING! THEY WONT GET IN TROUBLE! Tell them your job as a parent is to keep them safe. My daughter told me everything. I mean everything! Even as a teen. Her first kiss, her first everything. Was it hard to hear YUP! Did i want to tie her to her radiator Til she was 35 YUP! 😂 Yet, I always kept my promise. Keep yours. DRILL IT IN THEIR HEAD! I know most parents know all this. Maybe their is someone out there that didn’t think of something I said. If i can help just one person, I’m happy. I’m not perfect by any means, but I see way too many situations that kids are In because the parent “trusts” WAY TOO MUCH!!! Just like Jenn in this situation. Sorry, she did. She never thought he would (I PRAY IM RIGHT) I PRAY SHE DIDNT KNOW!!! Ugh, anyway, she trusted him too much. They knew each other a long time. He played the “father” role. Of course he did. They all do!!! DONT GIVE ANYONE ACCESS!!!
Everything you said 💯! I too did those things w my kids and put shorts under their dresses . I was abused as young child which later came forward as ptsd . I think when one has been through it ya become little more cautious n want to protect your own so that they do not suffer . Never let them alone w anyone . Didn’t trust anyone and taught them early on n how they can trust me if anyone made them feel uncomfortable in any way whatsoever . No way would I ever allowed a man or women to give my child knock out meds into a room w locks on doors with tripod and sexual things laying around . Never would allow them to take them in room to shut the door even .. not even into room alone . I think she definitely knew and may have took part in it as well . I view it as if she is sending her daughter into this type of set up n letting Maddie know straight up moreless do not bother me cause she needed her sleep then she is quilty . No way you be w a man for that many years n not realize something is off . If she is tracking her daughter’s menstrual cycle then I’m sure she is tracking her texts n such … make sure she isn’t telling would be morelike up Jenn’s alley . She told him to reset phone I think … and it was all scripted jibber jabber to cover up . Did she take part in the unaliving? Who says get a lawyer 2 minutes after seeing photos of that done to ur own child or any child ?!?!?!?!?! God I hope she gets charged w everything they can stick to her . She was never angry w what he done to her n taking her daughters life . She more emotional over own damm birthday !!!! Scum garbage of a wasteful space she comes across as. Like a rotten squishy potatoe that stinks . Sleeps in her day clothes . Look at his lack of hygiene . Just nasty evil scum they both are in my opinion based off all I have seen . Bless the decteives and all who help to put these type of evil doers behind bars n in cases such as this I do believe in let them suffer in jail waiting the death penalty to come then rid them from society . Casterate them . Sew them up . They use their body parts to commit crimes that hurt the victims beyond words can express . But know you can overcome n not let them destroy you for what they did . The wounds can heal but scars remain to remind but let it make you better person n protect other children . Ya know the signs . Teach kids privacy n how to protect themselves against these monsters who groom to trick the kids … teach them about that too .
8 years of age and supposedly seducing a grown man? No. This is classic paedophile behaviour. Blaming his innocent victim. A tiny innocent little girl. Just sickening.
So is Maddie's mother. RIP baby girl, these people failed her so tremendously. Everyone failed her, people should have asked more questions, been more involved.
Jen as her mother SHOULD never had let maddie sleep with that creep she is responsible for that if she wanted a good night's sleep she should have GIVEN her own daughter a PROPER bedroom and not a screened off portion of a living area!! That everyone had access to..
Yeah, she was a bad mom. She's also delusional. In all the interviews she talks as if she and Maddie both wanted that creep to move back in with them, but Maddie was telling her councelor at school that she was glad he moved out because he made her "uncomfortable". She never asked Maddie if she wanted him in the house or not but speaks as if Maddie absolutely wanted him or loved him. She was projecting stuff. She didn't care about what Maddie was going through. She was delusional, thinking Maddie would have an affair with him and they would run away together. She's a mentally ill woman who completely misunderstood her role as a mom and her kid's position in life, the vulnerability and innocence of Maddie's age. I was disgusted when I heard that after the police showed her photos from Stephen's phone of him raping Maddie, her first instinct was to call his parents so they would get him a lawyer. This woman is a complete POS. Who does that!?
I'm the stepdad to a beautiful little girl, and I'm constantly humbled and blessed to be in her life. I can't even begin to fathom betraying her or her mother like this, they're truly inhuman.
@farahmiller9849 Exactly, that's the most prominent thing that stood out to me, the very 1st time that I saw Maddie's picture. Just made my stomach turn knowing what that monster put that sweet angel thru all that time.
Yip how sad. I noticed that in her Birthday pictures trying to look so happy but deep down she was suffering from all that abuse from that goof loser boyfriend of her mother. Both of them should get life in prison.
I have never seen her mother devastated or completely distraught over the loss of her baby girl !!! She knows what happened and she was a part of it !!! I think there are a lot of us waiting for her arrest as well !!!!!!!!
@@dianedixon9974 They say she's hospitalized in a mental ward now. I don't know if it's all the bad press she received or trying to escape being arrested.
Victim-blaming and minimizing personal culpability is so typical of predators like Stephan Sterns. Even enablers like Jennifer Soto look at themselves as victims of circumstance. What a pair!
I have a hard time looking at people straight in the eye when I’m intimidated or having general anxiety. I mean, obviously he has different reasons, but just putting it out there.
Certain times they make Madeline sound like she's childlike. Like saying she doesn't like to be alone and they're snuggle time. Then other times they make her seem different like she knew what she was doing she's a big girl she can walk to school from where he dropped her off now which is it?? So now we know what snuggle time was
OR maybe he’s blaming Jenn….. Maybe she was a participant as well. There are those mommy’s turn/daddy’s turn coins. I could see a world where JS encouraged it in the beginning when she realized he had an attraction to kids.
@@shannonhart9374 I was noticing the way his upper body just is sickening to look at. The lower body must be even worse. That poor girl!!! No doubt someone behind bars will enjoy his grotesque body tho 😉👹
Jenn Soto is 100% responsible. She put Sterns in Madddie's path. She was referring to Maddie as a body for Christ sake before Maddie was even found. I wish she could get life. Her face makes me nauseous. Her and her "good sleep" makes me sick.
@@christinegingras4954 Well, in the podcast, didn't she write in her journal ," Life is beautiful when you go through life with your eyes closed"? It's her philosophy of life, I guess. I suppose she didn't know how prophetic those words would be.
@francesdelarue4519 And I missed that bit if the Maddy journey time invest I've made, so absolutely, very good point! I never read or heard that bit till now....👍🫶
What did he mean by "I didn't start this". I've always believed he is blaming Maddie. Pedos think they're gods gift to children so she came on to him. Also, as for the phone incident. I believe he brought that up to be one step ahead just in case it came up. I think he was already taking photos of Maddie and she was acting out the new normal.
I always thought he meant Jen, since Maddie was so young when this started, like 8 years old. Do you still think the same knowing she was 8 when pictures started? Maybe he’s lying and wants to blame Maddie.. I still think Jen started this
@@shannonhart9374 It's possible she didn't know directly and only suspected but chose not to say anything. I find it suspicious that after all this time he hasn't blamed her. I think he would have blamed her immediately if she had been involved directly. He's that type of person. But because she never participated in the abuse, he has no proof to tie her to it, so he has no bargaining chip. There is nothing he can do to get the police to give him a deal, except maybe confess. He seems like a narcissist so he is probably not confessing because he thinks he can charm a jury.
@@ciobalina7445maybe she has something even worse on him. He seems like a cowardly, weak, and socially unintelligent man. I could see her having something on him and that being why he took the fall alone this far.
@@ciobalina7445SS has to know that he's never getting out of prison. He's such a narcissist that he won't admit everything & save everyone else from more trauma. Absolutely no empathy...dead inside.
When i heard SS say, "I didn't start it," I thought of what his mom said to him about always taking the blame or protecting his friends. Its SS's weaselly way of implying that he's the victim, and is nobly taking the blame rather than rat out his guilty friends. She fell for it when he was a child/teen so he still does it
I took it completely differently, that Jen actually looked for a man with this bent. There is much more to this story. Not saying he isn’t guilty, but the original releases from the police suggested he was engaging her immediately upon he and Jen starting to date. It is NOT normal for an eight year old to just accept that. I fully believe that in time it will be found that Jen had been selling Maddie throughout her life.
I was just wondering where was her dad and why didn't he pay more attention to her. I know he lived in Texas with a new family. She didn't let anyone know what was happening to her in Florida with that pathetic excuse for a mother and that loser piece of krap so called bf of her mom. If she only opened up to someone and told.
@@donnasanderson4829What words would she use as child? How would she explain? At what point would she know her Mom would allow something illegal to happen to her?
When she had the autopsy, did they do a toxicology on Madeline? If so were her levels high?. Wouldnt they have found out if she was pregnant during any autopsy I would think so!
If she was pregnant, there would of been death for 2 people. Maddie and “her baby”. So far there isn’t any announcement about that however who knows maybe they are keeping certain potential evidence till trial? Who knows.
We won’t know bc they won’t release her autopsy due to her being a minor. So the best bet we have is when the trial starts and they speak about it then
@ItsCheye1992 the autopsy report was released to the family. A spokesman for her biodad who was interviewed requested that rumors & speculations stop to preserve Maddie's dignity, and that the autopsy revealed that she was not pregnant. Wouldn't SS be charged with two murders if she had been?
The mother is guilty “ and what kind of mother let her own daughter sleep with the ex , she knew this guy was sick and a liar not mentioning he is a totally loser , what kind of mother think and only her and her own comfort and sleep and send her daughter upstairs to room 4 ! She knew! How she can possibly no know the abuse for so many years, no way she didn’t know she is Guilty if not knowing she is guilty for serve her daughter in a tray to this predator ! Both can go to hell
i think maybe she’d had enough. i believe he hadn’t been in the house for a while and she’d just had her birthday and was growing up. maybe she stood up to him and/or struggled and he did what he did for control
“Preparing myself for whatever was coming”-SS talking about him driving around that day she went missing. Now why would he have to prepare for what was coming if he dropped her off?? Dude lies about everything and he’s starting to slip now
What I think is all the latest arrests for the past year regarding Disney World employees. Is he connected to those people? He and Jen worked at or near DW if I remember correctly!
Jenn’s biggest fear is that like Woody Allen , her daughter would run off with Stefan when she turned 18 ! NOT that her boyfriend would SA before she turned 18! Sounds like her biggest fear was being replaced by her own daughter and therefore left alone. I just can’t believe that Jenn Soto hasn’t even been charged with some kind of neglect or abuse. I’m praying that the prosecution is waiting until the murders trial is over before they take on Jenn. Jenn always picked Stefan over her own precious daughter, I believe she knew what was going on and not just let it happen but encouraged it. She’s pathetic and weak and Madeline deserved so much better.
Dear Court TV Producers, Please never add background music to the jailhouse interviews. Also it takes about 15 seconds to run a notch filter on the audio to remove the white noise. It’s so easy to do better. Thx!
There has to be some proof on their phones that Jenn was involved somehow. Come on! She definitely knew. Maybe she thought it was or silently knew? He took her body out while Jenn was sleeping? He left the hotel room for hours and she didn’t think it was suspicious or ask him questions? They were sitting in her car alone for two hours while they were searching the house. She didn’t even act upset during her interview. Stephen was obviously in a hurry when he killed Maddie because of his actions.
Gisela K!!!! I am a huge fan! God have you such an awesome voice and calming personality! There are times when I look you up just to hear your perspective ✝️ We truly loooove you’!!!
She’s dead she was sexually abused. They sent 2 guys away for 35 yrs for killing their parents for yrs of sexual and mental abuse. But their not charging the mother for knowing of this act n a young girl . Come on this day and age your letting out two Killers but haven’t charged the mother for at least co conspirer or manslaughter .
Madeline didnt even have a real room of her own. Its so weird to me that she had her daughter sleeping in her bed like shes some sort of baby in the family bed. It just makes no sense. RIP Maddie
They gave Jenn immunity from anything she said in the police interviews. That doesn't mean she won't be arrested if they find evidence that shows she was directly involved in the abuse, or the murder. Why they gave her immunity i dont know. Maybe she will testify in court against Stephan.
Love Gisela!!!!!! So good to see her get more attention recently…she’s so good at what she does!!! Always enjoy Dr. Ho, too. Two very sharp ladies!!!! ❤❤❤
Stern will never take accountability for his actions.Jennifier will never take responsibility for her actions .Somone needs to take accountability. Justice for Madeline❤
Still don’t understand why this so called “mother” is allowed to enjoy her freedom... You don’t have to be a rocket-scientist to see her guilt... Btw this stephan creep is even physically disgusting. I’m an adult man and it’s hard for me to look at his shirtless pictures- imagine what it had to be like for this fragile child...
I had the exact same emotions and thoughts.🤮🤮🤮. My heart aches for Maddie because there was no adult in her life looking out for her best interests or protecting her from freaks like SS and possibly her own mother. 😢😢
He had been manipulating that child from aged 8. As I said at the very beginning, she thought they were in a relationship and I can hear him now, telling her that they would be together forever and would have children together and run away to get married as soon as she was old enough. All in the repulsive attempt for him to carry on molesting her. And that was the reason the female who gave birth to her gave him that woody Allen speech. Because she knew.
Madeline was 9 years old or younger when this started and she started it. BS, BS, BS. Maybe Jen was involved, I do not believe Jenn Soto is innocent in anyway.
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@@CourtTV Stephen says he wants to talk, Dad says to late now the'll be rerecorded . Dad should go 👂 listen
Please stop blaming the mother for what his done. Yes the mother was wrong, but he tricked her. All pedos say that yet u talk about it like if you believe anything this garbage says.
Well there's this cable called E Z GIG one end goes onto a new hard Dr pin the other end part is a thin USB port connector ''or also. Other has a thin card '''whicj go into older laptops etc..what this does it gets everything u deleted etc ''an let's u view it ALL!
@@spawnaka6703 The MOTHER should have protected her DAUGHTER, instead of sending a grown man into her bedroom to sleep with her, so NO, I for one will NEVER stop blaming Jennifer! You're out of your mind, I hope you dont have kids!
VINNIE, this case is similar to that of BRITTANY PILKINGTON from Bellefontaine Ohio. Her mother had been in a relationship with a man, who like Stephan Sterns took on the "fatherly" role in Brittany's life, at some point when she was a young teen he began sexually abusing her as well. The mom and him split up by the time Brittany was 16 I believe and she delivered her first child, who was fathered by Joseph Pilkington at age 17, and went on to have 3 more children. Long story short, I believe she suffocated 3 of the 4 children they had together before authorities caught on and she had mental issues which kept her from receiving the death penalty! However, though it was brought out in court, stepfather Joseph Pilkington was never charged, nor was her mother!
Impatiently over here waiting on Jenn's arrest and conviction
Don’t hold your breath. Jen will be on the stand and Stephan’s defence will try and pin it on her but she is not going to be held accountable for her bad parenting unfortunately
Unfortunately, doesn’t seem like that’s going to happen. Even though she so needs to be held accountable. 😢
She really didn't know....as a small child who went through this...the shame I Know Maddie felt kept her quiet and men can hide stuff in ways you can't even imagine.
The fact she states he made her uncomfortable....was her way of TRYING to figure out how to talk about it.
@@niknewman9118 Nobody believes that her mom, Jen, didn't know. We might believe her if she hadn't reacted so weirdly to the photos of him sexually attacking Maddie. She literally called his parents to tell them to get him a lawyer. She clearly did not care about her daughter that much and her focus after finding all that gruesome information was on saving Stephen, and not on empathizing with her daughter, who had been sexually molested for years.
All data points to the fact that she pretended not to know, but she knew what he was doing. She made like she didn't know, but it was very clear she knew and approved since she sent him regurarly to sleep in Maddie's bed all night. She might not have thought immediately he killed her, but I also didn't feel much feeling or worry on her part for Maddie's dissapearance.
They are both to blame for Maddie’s demise, no real woman says “go sleep with my daughter “.
Especially, when the daughter is STILL a child !! WHAT KIND of mother would ALLOW such an INFAMY on her OWN child ?? Being the s****l ab**e had been going on since the child was FOUR YRS OLD ?? TRUTHFULLY, My ONLY HOPE is they BOTH meet their END in prison !!
You’re so right, love this response. No real mother either says this
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A very nieve one would certainly be that stupid.....sadly....my mom was very unaware of what I went through for 2...3 years. I was 6...7....8...it still haunts me some times...but it wasn't mom's fault. She had NO clue this mentally challenged man was "making me ride pony" in a very strange way...
Jen doesn't even remember what Maddie was wearing that night. Goes to show you how much she cared 😡
Not charging the mother is a complete travesty of justice
I agree with you 100%, Cara! Jennifer Soto was the willing enabler, the one who allowed -- and even expected -- Sterns and Madeline to sleep in the same bed, especially when she needed "to get her rest." What mother does that?
I agree. What a loser mother she was and seemed her family didn't care what was going on either. That poor girl omg what a sad life she had. No love and no one seemed to care. 😢
@@donnasanderson4829 --
As a mother myself, I find it disgusting and deeply nauseating that Jennifer Soto -- the so-called mother of a very young victim of the worst crimes ever perpetrated against a child -- has the gall to come up with excuses and justifications for her delinquent behavior as Madeline's caregiver and protector with the coldness of an iceberg. Jennifer provided Sterns exactly what he wanted: a young and innocent sacrificial lamb. I'm no lawyer; but I know something about common sense and morals. Although her testimony is not necessary to convict Stephan Sterns, I can't understand why Jennifer Soto isn't charged with, at the very least, facilitation of a crime against a minor. Donna, there's no way that she didn't know what was happening in her own bed. No way!
I don’t get it either. What is with the Prosecutor?? Is it laziness? - bc there’s not a jury on earth that wouldn’t convict her. Come on!! Surely neglect at the very least?
This is a rerun skip it
Proud GRIZZLY here 🐻 ❤ Thank you for having Gisela on your show. We love to see the colab. JUSTICE FOR MADDIE!
Making a name for herself although sometimes I can't understand her and all of the unnecessary interruptions during her recap videos drive me coo coo
Grizzly here. So glad you have her on again! Love yall together
@@esmurphy9405 I love her podcasts.
❤️
Yessss!!! Grizzly is awesome 👌🏽
Its nice to see vinnie recognising and respecting Gizalas efforts. She's such a great crime content maker. And vinnie being the crime news icon that he is makes the respect he gives Gizala so much more meaningful. It makes my heart glad to see this as shes such a nice woman and a totally thorough and dedicated crime content creater. She deserves recognition from the best top people. Go Grislies!!!!
MSM is loses the audience to “amateur” creators so it’s actually the other way around - Vinnie is just being extra smart.
My husband and I were together 35 years before he passed in 2022, we had three daughters between us, he would have NEVER allowed ANY of our GIRLS to climb into a BED with him, whether to sleep or otherwise! We also had 4 granddaughters and he was the same way with them! I dont understand what the hell the mother in this case was thinking, telling a grown ass man to SLEEP WITH HER DAUGHTER!
She was thinking about the money she was making from selling the images.
Same with my husband…
A daughter to victimize was the draw, that’s all she had he wanted… and she knew it.
Let us not forget that they were not together so, how can she justify an ex-bf wanting to come over and sleep with her child. The levels of sickness and depravity is beyond comprehension.
When I was little I was insanely afraid of the dark and my mum only worked night shifts and I would sleep in my mum's bed next to my dad. He was never inappropriate and we would do fun things together like watching cartoons, reading comic books, reading books, drawing or playing fun games. Though I had my own blanket and never liked being next to him in a close way. He was a good dad taking care of me like a dad should by protecting me, calming me or distracting me from being scared. If it was a step-dad, no way!
This woman is just to blame. She allowed that monster to sexual abuse her daughter for years. Why isn't she arrested
this 👆🏻
If there is nothing else as evidence, the worst they have on her, is abuse, and that may not be easy to get a conviction over, and if likely not a long time. They would need actual evidence she was aware of the abuse, and or murder, to charge her.
Exactly. I agree she should be locked up but we could make the excuse for people who bring their kids to church when we know that there are several instances of pastors and priests abusing kids and kids being too scared to speak up. There is no law that prevents someone from letting their daaughter sleep in the same bed as their boyfriend
Exactly. She has different and compelling stories too!
@@MA-ir8ocdon’t forget teachers either-
I used to work with a guy who was arrested for having a years long relationship with a young teen. He met the girl when she was three years old because he used to date her mother. Mom went to jail and she called him for emotional support because He was a in school to be a social worker. When he got busted, he had pictures on his computer. And when he was arrested, he blamed her saying “she didn’t dress like a 15 year old.” he got like 10 years, but he gotten the most trouble for the pictures rather than destroying this poor child’s life.
The MOTHER of Maddie should be locked up also …....she is just as evil as he is. I mean who sends their 13 year old daughter to sleep with her ex bf??Stephan said he had the world's shittiest birthday present ever? Gee, Maddie got murdered for HER birthday.
Yeah that was almost like a welcome home gift she gave him after not being there for 2 months
The fact that Jen Soto hasn’t been charged with anything yet is insane to me. I hope that it’s simply because they’re getting as much as they can out of her and in turn building the strongest case possible against her. But I swear if they end up offering her immunity or some nonsense like that, I will have officially lost faith in our justice system. Protecting a child is your #1 obligation. And it seems that she failed to do that and also facilitated this disgusting behavior and tragedy. If this precious child survived, she would have a lifetime of trauma to overcome. This whole case is so tragic. So many adults failed her and abused her. She gave all of the flags to people that were meant to protect her. Apparently she had to say the words “my mom’s boyfriend is raping me and selling photos and videos of it” for anything to be done. And even then, I’m not so confident anything by would be done. But in other jurisdictions and likely this one as well, parents get a CPS case over light spankings. Don’t leave a mark that someone else can see, it never happened. Our system is so broken. Send these two to the chair. Prayers for the rest of the family and Madeline ❤️
SAME! Justice for Maddie is Jennifer Soto held accountable for the horrible life she allowed her daughter to live
She was only given partial immunity so they could interview her. So anything she said in the interview can’t be used against her. However, if they find it another way she can be charged and brought to trial as well.
They need her for the trial. Hopefully, afterward, she can be charged.
Nah you're just getting a taste of the way our system works. They dont care as long as they get the "main culprit" and they look good bc they got em
There is a difference in what the police does, they investigate and can charge arrest someone, and the justice system, meaning the prosecutor and court system. You need actual proof to find someone guilty in court. You can’t just charge or arrest someone, without evidence.
I was a single mom, my daughter is grown now. My mother was very strict about guys, boyfriends, males in general when I was growing up. When I had my daughter, I set the same rules that I had to follow.
~ No kids sit on laps, they can sit on the knee, NO LAPS
~ You don’t walk around in PJs around the house
~ if you give someone a hug you hug from the side not the front
She didn’t date when I was growing up. So, didn’t have that dynamic.
Now, my rules for my house. When I was in a relationship, (I met a man when she was 3 and we separated when she was 18). He wasn’t her father. He was a great guy, BUT that doesn’t matter.
Yes, having help is amazing when your a single parent, but my child’s safety came first. It wasn’t about me, it was about her. I didn’t think he was a p3do he wouldn’t have been in my life. He was an amazing guy. He treated her amazing. His family accepted her. He raised her for 15 years. Yet, As a mother, we protect our children. You treat sits like that the same regardless of who it is. YOU NEVER KNOW!
So these were my “rules”
~ No one that is not family changes diapers (unless emergency)
~ step dad didn’t give baths
~ step dad didn’t get her dressed
~ step dad didn’t assist with bringing her to the bathroom
~ step dad didn’t watch her if I needed a babysitter she went to my mom, sister, best friend
~ NO CHILD BELONGS IN YOUR BED With you and ESPECIALLY NOT WITH STEP DAD IN BED TOO!
~ when my daughter got scared of storms I would grab her mattress, bring in my room, got her calmed down and she slept next to me on her mattress. Not my bed! Not with us! Nope!
~ didn’t walk around in just a tshirt NOPE DONT CARE HOW OLD. Nope!
~ don’t run around the house naked as some little kids tend to do
~ didn’t change her in front of him or any other man, friends, uncles, etc..
Ladies, MEN PREY ON SINGLE MOTHERS!! Men PREY on mothers that get “benefits”. I hate to tell ya, but they do!!!
A P3DO loves a single mother, with kids, especially if she’s struggling!!! Especially if she’s trauma broken. It’s like they can spot a woman who has had it rough. That’s who they look for!
Please, BACKGROUND CHECK! ASK QUESTIONS - ESPECIALLY IF THEY ARE NOT “ALLOWED” to see their own kids. WHY?!
Check the sex offender website!
Check the state judicial system for convictions or recent charges.
I am a product of a P3DO, I didn’t know it til I was 23 and had this nasty memory and I was like “WTF Is wrong with me?! Why the heck am I envisioning that?!” It messed me up!!! To have something pop in your head that feels like a memory, but you don’t remember it ever happening! Well, I asked my sister about the house, the people, the room, even down to
The dang bedspread, bedside table, dresser, lamp, placement of this bedroom. My sister replied with “Holy crap! How do you remember that house?! You were only 3! You described it to a T!” Well, that was my validation that I wasn’t losing my mind thinking about something so vile! It happened. It was real. The guy is currently in prison for crimes on children. Go figure.
Moral of that story is This was done by my brother and sisters really good best friend!! I was 3 my siblings were 13 and 15!! YOU just NEVER KNOW MOM/DAD..
I cannot stand all these stories about kids being assaulted and I’m LIKE WHERE THE EFF IS THE PARENT?!!! WHY DID THEY HAVE SO MUCH FREEDOM AND ACCESS?!!
Lastly, talk to your kids!!!! Make them understand they can tell you anything. That you will never ever get upset at them for coming to you! Make them know you ARE THEIR SAFE SPACE! Their PROTECTOR! Tell them that it doesn’t matter what anyone tells them THEY CAN TELL YOU ANYTHING! THEY WONT GET IN TROUBLE! Tell them your job as a parent is to keep them safe. My daughter told me everything. I mean everything! Even as a teen. Her first kiss, her first everything. Was it hard to hear YUP! Did i want to tie her to her radiator Til she was 35 YUP! 😂 Yet, I always kept my promise. Keep yours. DRILL IT IN THEIR HEAD!
I know most parents know all this. Maybe their is someone out there that didn’t think of something I said. If i can help just one person, I’m happy.
I’m not perfect by any means, but I see way too many situations that kids are In because the parent “trusts” WAY TOO MUCH!!! Just like Jenn in this situation. Sorry, she did. She never thought he would (I PRAY IM RIGHT) I PRAY SHE DIDNT KNOW!!! Ugh, anyway, she trusted him too much. They knew each other a long time. He played the “father” role. Of course he did. They all do!!! DONT GIVE ANYONE ACCESS!!!
Everything you said 💯!
I too did those things w my kids and put shorts under their dresses . I was abused as young child which later came forward as ptsd . I think when one has been through it ya become little more cautious n want to protect your own so that they do not suffer .
Never let them alone w anyone . Didn’t trust anyone and taught them early on n how they can trust me if anyone made them feel uncomfortable in any way whatsoever .
No way would I ever allowed a man or women to give my child knock out meds into a room w locks on doors with tripod and sexual things laying around . Never would allow them to take them in room to shut the door even .. not even into room alone .
I think she definitely knew and may have took part in it as well . I view it as if she is sending her daughter into this type of set up n letting Maddie know straight up moreless do not bother me cause she needed her sleep then she is quilty . No way you be w a man for that many years n not realize something is off . If she is tracking her daughter’s menstrual cycle then I’m sure she is tracking her texts n such … make sure she isn’t telling would be morelike up Jenn’s alley . She told him to reset phone I think … and it was all scripted jibber jabber to cover up .
Did she take part in the unaliving?
Who says get a lawyer 2 minutes after seeing photos of that done to ur own child or any child ?!?!?!?!?!
God I hope she gets charged w everything they can stick to her .
She was never angry w what he done to her n taking her daughters life . She more emotional over own damm birthday !!!! Scum garbage of a wasteful space she comes across as. Like a rotten squishy potatoe that stinks . Sleeps in her day clothes . Look at his lack of hygiene . Just nasty evil scum they both are in my opinion based off all I have seen .
Bless the decteives and all who help to put these type of evil doers behind bars n in cases such as this I do believe in let them suffer in jail waiting the death penalty to come then rid them from society .
Casterate them . Sew them up . They use their body parts to commit crimes that hurt the victims beyond words can express . But know you can overcome n not let them destroy you for what they did . The wounds can heal but scars remain to remind but let it make you better person n protect other children . Ya know the signs . Teach kids privacy n how to protect themselves against these monsters who groom to trick the kids … teach them about that too .
They didn't give her privacy or respect or a proper bedroom. Jenn is cray cray...never bonded w Maddie
Yep. 100%
Not cray cray. Selfish narcissistic desperate and evil
I think she was very bitter and blamed Madeline for it.
Yeah I think she saw Maddie as nothing but a burden after being dumped by her father who married another woman instead of her
Jenn needs to be in jail. She $ex trafficked her daughter. She is disgusting.
I think so too!
Justice for Madeline ❤
Most pedos blame the kids.
Of course they do. They never want to take responsibility for their own wickedness.
You are right. Most psychopaths blame everyone but themselves.
8 years of age and supposedly seducing a grown man? No. This is classic paedophile behaviour. Blaming his innocent victim. A tiny innocent little girl. Just sickening.
He is repulsive 🤮. Poor Madeline 😭
They all do
that whisper voice drives me nuts
@@jrelevates1574me, too!
Ugh his body and Jenn said he had a thick 🍆poor Maddie 💔😊
He is so gross 🤢
I feel the same disgusting human I hate everything about him
So is Maddie's mother. RIP baby girl, these people failed her so tremendously. Everyone failed her, people should have asked more questions, been more involved.
Creature with no lips
This case is already dark as all hell. But if Madeline was pregnant and that was the motive, this case is in a category of its own. Wow
I have a feeling that she told him she was pregnant. She may or may not have been.
Jen as her mother SHOULD never had let maddie sleep with that creep she is responsible for that if she wanted a good night's sleep she should have GIVEN her own daughter a PROPER bedroom and not a screened off portion of a living area!! That everyone had access to..
Yeah, she was a bad mom. She's also delusional. In all the interviews she talks as if she and Maddie both wanted that creep to move back in with them, but Maddie was telling her councelor at school that she was glad he moved out because he made her "uncomfortable". She never asked Maddie if she wanted him in the house or not but speaks as if Maddie absolutely wanted him or loved him. She was projecting stuff.
She didn't care about what Maddie was going through. She was delusional, thinking Maddie would have an affair with him and they would run away together. She's a mentally ill woman who completely misunderstood her role as a mom and her kid's position in life, the vulnerability and innocence of Maddie's age.
I was disgusted when I heard that after the police showed her photos from Stephen's phone of him raping Maddie, her first instinct was to call his parents so they would get him a lawyer. This woman is a complete POS. Who does that!?
R.I.P Madeleine 🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️
Hey Grizzly, so good to see you here!!
🐻 here too
I'm the stepdad to a beautiful little girl, and I'm constantly humbled and blessed to be in her life. I can't even begin to fathom betraying her or her mother like this, they're truly inhuman.
Look at those black circles around that poor child’s eyes in the introduction.
@farahmiller9849
Exactly, that's the most prominent thing that stood out to me, the very 1st time that I saw Maddie's picture.
Just made my stomach turn knowing what that monster put that sweet angel thru all that time.
Yip how sad. I noticed that in her Birthday pictures trying to look so happy but deep down she was suffering from all that abuse from that goof loser boyfriend of her mother. Both of them should get life in prison.
I have never seen her mother devastated or completely distraught over the loss of her baby girl !!! She knows what happened and she was a part of it !!! I think there are a lot of us waiting for her arrest as well !!!!!!!!
@@dianedixon9974 They say she's hospitalized in a mental ward now. I don't know if it's all the bad press she received or trying to escape being arrested.
I am tired of waiting to see this mother put in jail neglect her daughter.
Victim-blaming and minimizing personal culpability is so typical of predators like Stephan Sterns. Even enablers like Jennifer Soto look at themselves as victims of circumstance. What a pair!
Jen knew exactly what was going on.
He didn’t have a job bc they were selling child photos?
@marthamackey6105 sadly your probably right
Great to see G on Vinnie’s show again! 🎉🎉❤❤
The fact that during the interview he could barely even make eye contact. Makes him look guilty to me. I think she was going to tell on him.
I have a hard time looking at people straight in the eye when I’m intimidated or having general anxiety.
I mean, obviously he has different reasons, but just putting it out there.
@SuperMelrose1 the whole time?
"I didn't start it" meaning he's saying Maddie started it. GROSS GROSS GROSS
I thought he was blaming Jenn but it could be Maddie
@Findpepperbridge could be both. Who knows what kind of excuse he thought was somehow going to make sense to anyone. Pure evil.
Or JS
"Hangs out in the living room" .....HER BEDROOM
It's ridiculous that there was a guest bedroom, but she didn't have a bedroom.
What a creep, hurts your eyes to look at him.
Are they really blaming a child when she was 8 when " it started".
Not they! Just him
Certain times they make Madeline sound like she's childlike. Like saying she doesn't like to be alone and they're snuggle time. Then other times they make her seem different like she knew what she was doing she's a big girl she can walk to school from where he dropped her off now which is it?? So now we know what snuggle time was
I think Stefan is blaming Madeline
Yeah when he says I didn’t start it…🤢
OR maybe he’s blaming Jenn…..
Maybe she was a participant as well. There are those mommy’s turn/daddy’s turn coins. I could see a world where JS encouraged it in the beginning when she realized he had an attraction to kids.
@@SuperMelrose1I hope not, as that would make this beyond evil.
‘ I didn’t start it ‘ …… mentally immature but mature enough to make videos and photos. Pathetic
Gisela ❤
Jennifer Soto needs to be arrested YESTERDAY
The night it happened
His body is grotesque
Body skin hair face voice. Sickening.
@@bronnie1786EXACTLY👉🏻👺
@@shannonhart9374 I was noticing the way his upper body just is sickening to look at. The lower body must be even worse. That poor girl!!! No doubt someone behind bars will enjoy his grotesque body tho 😉👹
Jenn Soto is 100% responsible. She put Sterns in Madddie's path. She was referring to Maddie as a body for Christ sake before Maddie was even found. I wish she could get life. Her face makes me nauseous. Her and her "good sleep" makes me sick.
She put Maddie in Stephen path
His a statement means nothing. He is still trying to pretend he’s innocent.
35,000 images 😮
💔
they are both to blame, Jenn told everyone that WE took her to school. she spoke as if she was part of the process that morning.
He talks like a child..
"Well I didn't start it"
Even his gravelly “poor me’ affect 🤢🤮
@@debras1503 exactly!
Lives like one too
Vinnie, her mom should be charged with neglect. I’m a single parent, never, NEVER would I send an adult male to my daughters’ bed. Never!
How Could Jenn be sooooooo oblivious?
There IS ZERO EFFING WAY??? 😫😭😭😭😭
@@christinegingras4954 Well, in the podcast, didn't she write in her journal ," Life is beautiful when you go through life with your eyes closed"? It's her philosophy of life, I guess. I suppose she didn't know how prophetic those words would be.
@francesdelarue4519
And I missed that bit if the Maddy journey time invest I've made, so absolutely, very good point!
I never read or heard that bit till now....👍🫶
thanks for picking a fascinating aspect of the case and delving into it.
Jenn is GUILTY....
CHARGE HER!!!!! CHARGE HER!!!!
I hope her mother is going to face charges
What did he mean by "I didn't start this". I've always believed he is blaming Maddie. Pedos think they're gods gift to children so she came on to him. Also, as for the phone incident. I believe he brought that up to be one step ahead just in case it came up. I think he was already taking photos of Maddie and she was acting out the new normal.
I always thought he meant Jen, since Maddie was so young when this started, like 8 years old. Do you still think the same knowing she was 8 when pictures started? Maybe he’s lying and wants to blame Maddie.. I still think Jen started this
@@shannonhart9374 It's possible she didn't know directly and only suspected but chose not to say anything. I find it suspicious that after all this time he hasn't blamed her. I think he would have blamed her immediately if she had been involved directly. He's that type of person. But because she never participated in the abuse, he has no proof to tie her to it, so he has no bargaining chip. There is nothing he can do to get the police to give him a deal, except maybe confess. He seems like a narcissist so he is probably not confessing because he thinks he can charm a jury.
@@ciobalina7445maybe she has something even worse on him. He seems like a cowardly, weak, and socially unintelligent man. I could see her having something on him and that being why he took the fall alone this far.
@shannonhart9374 He came into her life when she was 6yo, and I believe the abuse started then.
@@ciobalina7445SS has to know that he's never getting out of prison. He's such a narcissist that he won't admit everything & save everyone else from more trauma. Absolutely no empathy...dead inside.
My favorite guy from court tv Vinnie,good lawyer.
Not to mention…smart, funny, and good looking. Just saying
When i heard SS say, "I didn't start it," I thought of what his mom said to him about always taking the blame or protecting his friends. Its SS's weaselly way of implying that he's the victim, and is nobly taking the blame rather than rat out his guilty friends. She fell for it when he was a child/teen so he still does it
I took it completely differently, that Jen actually looked for a man with this bent. There is much more to this story. Not saying he isn’t guilty, but the original releases from the police suggested he was engaging her immediately upon he and Jen starting to date. It is NOT normal for an eight year old to just accept that. I fully believe that in time it will be found that Jen had been selling Maddie throughout her life.
Her own bio father wasnt in her life and she probably attached to him and he twisted it for his own sick ways.. that poor baby
Everyone blames mom, but her own dad let her down. He had to know Jenn was a mental case!
I was just wondering where was her dad and why didn't he pay more attention to her. I know he lived in Texas with a new family. She didn't let anyone know what was happening to her in Florida with that pathetic excuse for a mother and that loser piece of krap so called bf of her mom. If she only opened up to someone and told.
It makes me sad that we still don’t know who the bio father is. He doesn’t even care?
@@donnasanderson4829What words would she use as child? How would she explain? At what point would she know her Mom would allow something illegal to happen to her?
When she had the autopsy, did they do a toxicology on Madeline? If so were her levels high?. Wouldnt they have found out if she was pregnant during any autopsy
I would think so!
If she was pregnant, there would of been death for 2 people. Maddie and “her baby”.
So far there isn’t any announcement about that however who knows maybe they are keeping certain potential evidence till trial? Who knows.
How has Stephen not blamed her for everything yet? He seems like the type who would make every excuse to not take accountability
We won’t know bc they won’t release her autopsy due to her being a minor. So the best bet we have is when the trial starts and they speak about it then
@@sheathebuffveganbarbieBecause he’d have to incriminate himself as well. Somehow he thinks he’s going to beat these charges.
@ItsCheye1992 the autopsy report was released to the family. A spokesman for her biodad who was interviewed requested that rumors & speculations stop to preserve Maddie's dignity, and that the autopsy revealed that she was not pregnant. Wouldn't SS be charged with two murders if she had been?
Justice NOT served unless mother is at least charged for her lies & abetting. She literally allowed & 'facilitated' the horrific long term abuse!
The mother is guilty “ and what kind of mother let her own daughter sleep with the ex , she knew this guy was sick and a liar not mentioning he is a totally loser , what kind of mother think and only her and her own comfort and sleep and send her daughter upstairs to room 4 ! She knew! How she can possibly no know the abuse for so many years, no way she didn’t know she is Guilty if not knowing she is guilty for serve her daughter in a tray to this predator ! Both can go to hell
I still believe he murdered her because she became a teenager and he knew she would eventually talk
i think maybe she’d had enough. i believe he hadn’t been in the house for a while and she’d just had her birthday and was growing up. maybe she stood up to him and/or struggled and he did what he did for control
“Preparing myself for whatever was coming”-SS talking about him driving around that day she went missing. Now why would he have to prepare for what was coming if he dropped her off?? Dude lies about everything and he’s starting to slip now
He can slip and slide all he wants to in his cage
We need to need to begin a letter writing campaign demanding Jennifer Soto's arrest!
Jen is under a huge rock
What I think is all the latest arrests for the past year regarding Disney World employees. Is he connected to those people? He and Jen worked at or near DW if I remember correctly!
I have followed the story since it started back in February and to see how far they’ve come is crazy
Her DISGRACEFUL Mother should be charged as an accomplice after letting her daughter sleep with a grown man! So gross and Diabolical.
Jenn’s biggest fear is that like Woody Allen , her daughter would run off with Stefan when she turned 18 ! NOT that her boyfriend would SA before she turned 18! Sounds like her biggest fear was being replaced by her own daughter and therefore left alone. I just can’t believe that Jenn Soto hasn’t even been charged with some kind of neglect or abuse. I’m praying that the prosecution is waiting until the murders trial is over before they take on Jenn. Jenn always picked Stefan over her own precious daughter, I believe she knew what was going on and not just let it happen but encouraged it. She’s pathetic and weak and Madeline deserved so much better.
Dear Court TV Producers, Please never add background music to the jailhouse interviews. Also it takes about 15 seconds to run a notch filter on the audio to remove the white noise. It’s so easy to do better. Thx!
Like when the father says “ but you did participate”
Yet, his parents don't mention all the CSAM. Smh
There has to be some proof on their phones that Jenn was involved somehow. Come on! She definitely knew. Maybe she thought it was or silently knew? He took her body out while Jenn was sleeping? He left the hotel room for hours and she didn’t think it was suspicious or ask him questions? They were sitting in her car alone for two hours while they were searching the house. She didn’t even act upset during her interview. Stephen was obviously in a hurry when he killed Maddie because of his actions.
Where's the proof? Who took all these pictures & videos if he was in bed with Madaline?
He is such a creep.
Yes the CREEPER , yuk😮
Thank you for sharing your information! The true TV channel! Fr.Canada 😊
Gisela K!!!! I am a huge fan! God have you such an awesome voice and calming personality! There are times when I look you up just to hear your perspective ✝️ We truly loooove you’!!!
What does your religion have to do with this? Love G, but huh?
She’s dead she was sexually abused. They sent 2 guys away for 35 yrs for killing their parents for yrs of sexual and mental abuse. But their not charging the mother for knowing of this act n a young girl . Come on this day and age your letting out two Killers but haven’t charged the mother for at least co conspirer or manslaughter .
Madeline didnt even have a real room of her own. Its so weird to me that she had her daughter sleeping in her bed like shes some sort of baby in the family bed. It just makes no sense. RIP Maddie
Who is to say Jennifer wasn't abusing her child as well. The coin then looks rather sinister.
That was my thoughts as well regarding the coin.
What if Madeline was pregnant,and ALLEGEDLY Jeen exploded 🤔
She was 8 years old. How could he not start it.
Grizzly 🐻
Even his pathetic voice gets on my every nerve! 😡😡😡
His mam and dad can see right through him they just want the truth also
Not according to the prison letters between them.
@Karlinj prison letters where did you see them on, I'll have to have a look at them
This kind of man should get the full extent of the law I feel so sad for Madeline Soto
Jennifer should be punished equally!! They are both guilty!! She knew better!!!
His girlfriend started it, because mom you used her daughter to keep him.
They gave Jenn immunity from anything she said in the police interviews. That doesn't mean she won't be arrested if they find evidence that shows she was directly involved in the abuse, or the murder. Why they gave her immunity i dont know. Maybe she will testify in court against Stephan.
Love Gisela!!!!!! So good to see her get more attention recently…she’s so good at what she does!!! Always enjoy Dr. Ho, too. Two very sharp ladies!!!! ❤❤❤
Stern will never take accountability for his actions.Jennifier will never take responsibility for her actions .Somone needs to take accountability. Justice for Madeline❤
Still don’t understand why this so called “mother” is allowed to enjoy her freedom...
You don’t have to be a rocket-scientist to see her guilt...
Btw this stephan creep is even physically disgusting. I’m an adult man and it’s hard for me to look at his shirtless pictures- imagine what it had to be like for this fragile child...
I can't stand either of them. Their faces annoy the F out of me
@@giiiddyuptotally agree. 2 repulsive low lives
Society is too easy on mothers
I had the exact same emotions and thoughts.🤮🤮🤮. My heart aches for Maddie because there was no adult in her life looking out for her best interests or protecting her from freaks like SS and possibly her own mother. 😢😢
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We really need to start a petition for Jenn Soto to be charged.
He had been manipulating that child from aged 8. As I said at the very beginning, she thought they were in a relationship and I can hear him now, telling her that they would be together forever and would have children together and run away to get married as soon as she was old enough. All in the repulsive attempt for him to carry on molesting her. And that was the reason the female who gave birth to her gave him that woody Allen speech. Because she knew.
Excuse me!? The mother tells her on-again off-again boyfriend to sleep in the same room/bed as her daughter!? WTF!? Arrest the mother!
Jenn seems as though she totally lacks the maternal instinct,when is she getting locked up?
Interesting facts on this case vinnie. Love how you pin point these evidence. Thank you
Madeline was 9 years old or younger when this started and she started it. BS, BS, BS. Maybe Jen was involved, I do not believe Jenn Soto is innocent in anyway.
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They both make me sick him is a predator and the mother must have mental issues both at fault.
Omg he looks like his mother
@sydneybeck126. I thought the same thing . Creepy but so true
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The counselor did not follow up. We cannot forget the situation existed for at least 5 years. No one saw the drawings.
I agree with you. This young girl was just yearning for someone to recognize her problem.