How to EP-133 K.O. & EP-1320 Medieval for FREE | GAS Therapy #55
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I was coming over to share the same link. Thanks, Michael! I always appreciate your perspective. Now it’s time to rewatch the Dirtywave M8 GAS Therapy video 😂
Dude 🎉😂
Awesome more wav samples added to my library, thanks man.
I wonder if there's a similar source for the og pocket operators
nice! I need to load these up to my Octatrack and SP404 MK2.
let me guess... koala
edit: yep. this software is just unbeatable
😂
Koala for everything, but it's so late for me
Please be koala please be koala
Koala is nice but I have a small phone and big hands. Not a great combination
But.. koala is paid
"At a first glance ... ticking all the boxes" ... waiting for an eventual bad gear review on this :)
For someone who has never seen you channel, just ordered my KO, and haven't been making music for years, i think you're spot on. I was using nothing but ableton years ago and i thought this product would be a good idea to help jumpstart me back into music but considering i would just be learning "how to do the same old tricks over again" im reconsidering not only my purchase, but my approach.
Thank you for that. Subscribed.
There are benefits to using hardware... like, playing an instrument instead of using a mouse and qwerty keyboard. But if you want to make songs, it's important to have something solid at the center of your workflow, and that solid core is usually a DAW. I personally like the Ableton style of doing things, but don't want a computer in my process, so I'm using a Force and just one hardware instrument... and it completely cured my GAS. Now when I watch videos about new synths, it gives me ideas for things to try on my current gear, but it doesn't make me want to buy anything.
get Koala. I had an MPC 1000. I sold it because Koala it’s better than any hardware sampler.
I think the difference between the ep133, sp404 and all the other samplers compared to koala is just the physical feed you get and all the other things that make up the devices. Koala is great and all but for having a real physical device it’s just not it.
Awesome episode as always. It’s all about making music and not collecting trendy gear! 🎹🎸🤟
Except it is about collecting cool looking gear right? I mean I like collecting stuff.
But often it’s the specific gear that is the most inspiring.
@@TheDungeonDive I can agree to that, but buying more gear than you are producing music can be a very real hazard
@@JeanLucConnery we all do, but how good of a musician are you. Probably could have made just as good music without new gear.
I really envy people that doesn’t suffer from GAS
Koala is an ever expanding multitool. I appreciate you for continuing to spread its reach.
Thank you for dunking on good-looking trash from companies like teenage engineering. I can now save money and make music instead ✨
But cuckoo told me to buy it😭
OMG I needed dis GAS so bad this week i have had the most i have felt so meh seeing thing all over the internet but can you trust the internet any more i may need GAS Therapy
The internet is just Television 2.0. It's main purpose is selling you things while creating mediocre content to keep you watching the commercials 😜
Quality entertainment is always found in hobbies.
I don't know why… the way you typed that, I imagined you with literal gas 💨 caused by your GAS. 😸
I just stumbled on your channel and immediately subbed after watching this vid. I really appreciate your anti-GAS approach and focus on personal skill improvement. Such a refresher after being inundated with essentially advertising infomercials from most “music gear review” channels.
Keep it up - thank you! 🤘
Appreciated, but don't take my words all, it's just another extreme edge balancing the market.
So....using a computer/app is your answer? I thought the whole point of things like TA’s gear was to get away from that
But the ko 2 and OP are both apps too, the only difference is that they are apps with a midi controller built around it !
A well designed , musical and enjoyable interface, which makes all the difference
I love your approach, but I think you don't see the point to get gear to play with; The goal is nothing, the journey is everything.
It's fun to play with gear, and that is the quality.
Making music is for talented people, having fun is for me!
After the announcement of the K.O. 2 Sampler just waited for the a GAS therapy episode about it and here it is. ❤
Btw.: i bought a cheap ipad some weeks ago and installed Koala, from which i heared first from this channel. Quick and powerful app! I have a lot of fun with it.
was thinking ,He will talk bout KOALA , and BOOM !!!!! yes on many point far the best machine weither on a tablet or + a midi controler
So heres the thing. This is an instrument and should be treated with the same expectations as one. It's like saying why buy a guitar, I can make all the guitar sounds on my DAW for free with my keyboard. Everyone would agree it's not the same thing. At the same time to make good music with anything you need talent, skill and patience. Regarding mixing and mastering, 99% percent of people will need a profesional to do this properly for them. Which obviously costs money. So even with a $1000 phone, a $2000ipad, $2500mbp a free app or a $600 DAW, music will still cost additional money on top of that to be legitemately produced. For the average consumer, all these programs, applications and instruments will be just toys anyway.
Absolutely 100% agree and I was pretty much primed to buy this as soon as I saw it.
It looks absolutely beautiful. I love the whole 1980s Calculator aesthetic. But 64 MB? And don’t get me started on broken speakers and faders straight out of the box,
I say this as a teenage engineering fanboy too (before they started selling $1500 tables, I mean)
As always, I appreciate your reminders. The siren song of hardware that does things my iPad already does-and in a more limited fashion-keeps calling to me. At least with Teenage Engineering, their marketing makes it clear they don’t want me as a customer. 😄
I'm baffled by TE as a company. I don't get how they exist, charging such absurd prices for their equipment; all of it is techno-minimalist stuff, reminiscent of mid-90's computer hardware, and is generally made using the same kinds of parts... They're neatly packaged and clean-looking, but that's about it. 🤷🏻🤷🏻
Their business model is just... weird. It's like their banking on yuppies contracting G.A.S. simply because they don't actually understand what a product does.
@@georgemeller4074 Whatever they're trying to do, it seems to work for them.
Luxury products do have advantages. I know a UA-camr who found a lot of value in their tiny-ass mixer and little speaker/looper. I don't know if the magical spells wore off yet, since I covered my eyes for protection. 🙅🏿♀️
I already bought my EP-133, K.O.II and enjoying the crap out of it, but I came here to say that I think you make some great points and I appreciate your thoughts and insight ✌
I mean, you're eliminating the appeal of NOT being in front of a computer to make music, which is a different creative process in most people's experience. Functionality fine, but a functioning box for only 299 is pretty cool. Niche, but cool
I watched an in-depth review of the K.O.II by Cuckoo few days. Although i love watching Cuckoo’s review, even he cant save me from clicking off the video due to how clunky the K.O.II workflow is.
This comment is like yesterday once more 😅
The truth of it all is that these types of products are good for maintaining the need to evolve electronic instruments over time...and as we can see, it is also good for making other products like Koala gain publicity. It is always good that there is news products in the market, for better or worse. I prefer seeing new products in our lives each year and not being stuck in Ableton Live for the rest of our short lives. Peace ✌🏻
I wonder if there's a picture of Michael pinned to a bulletin board in the back office of every hardware synth/sampler company, while cigar smoking bearded hipsters try to figure out what to do about him.
Heeey im selling an octatrack and i wondering if thats a way to to it on ableton or GB❤ love your content🤘🤘🤘
Thank you for this wake up call! Just downloaded Koala - and if I don't get round to using it, it didn't cost me £299 :)
Michael you'd want to watch your back, the big synth manufacturers will be out for you
I use gran finale 2 for ipad to master my beats, but a mastering tutorial just using koala would be cool.
Definitely will do one at some point, stay tuned~
Seconding that idea, please and thank you! Mastering with simple tools is always a great topic to research!
Thirding
Cool video but I rather have a standalone music device that has some limitations than use a app or a computer to make music. Doing that take the fun out of creating music, in my opinion. I just enjoy a small groovebox
I agree but i understand many people got the PO K.O for the portability and having a small and portable device with physical buttons and potentiometers you instead of another app I'm your phone. I don't think portability is a key feature of the K.O II and I will totally try koalas. Thank you for sharing
Yes, a cool hardware device can inspire you to create. However, people are great at lying to themselves about their decisions. I think it is very difficult for people to be able to differentiate between a genuine inspiration that a device *might* provide and a simple craving to buy a shiny new toy. It's usually a craving to buy a shiny new toy. GAS is real in the music and photographer community. Some people are able to honestly admit that they are suffering from GAS, but many people will rationalize their craving-driven purchases instead.
As soon as I saw this product and the price and heard everyone saying "what a bargain!", I could here you saying "too much!". And I tend to agree. :) Although you couldn't find a good way emulate a broken fader with software. 😅
Do not agree. TE made sampler that makes sense (simple and TANGIBLE to control). It’s first time I’m playing pure sampler as a musician. And will grab samples of my analogue synths to go. Don’t get me wrong, I’m Korg Gadget musician since day one of its release till now. iPhone is a musical instrument.
😆 tbh I think po33 might be a better starting point, not as complicated and weak as ep133, but just in my opinion.
@@playpm always looked at it but too small for my sausage fingers LOL love my OP-Z since day one. So EP-133 feels like home. Lucky enough to get sick and spend a day straight with it ina bed LOL
Best I like about it no limit to 4, 8 tracks like many standalone groove boxes.It feels like Maschine + with ability to turn a pad into key mode. Not with sample per scene like VerseLab or Novation. Device feels like slim Akai Force and MPCs wrt usability.
I will certangly take it to vacation where would not bring M+ or Push3.
So far I find EP-133 properly solve tradeoff between features and limitations toward “creative limitations” and “less is more”.
I even think it will make as a “people device “
I really like the design of the EP-133, its just a shame that the build quality is so poor. Its quite funny that TE believes they're justified in making such a fragile project because its *only* $300. That alone will likely make it a pass for me!
Function wise, it's moving backwards comparing to PO33 imo.
I wouldn't say the build quality is poor, overall it's solid, it's pretty much the same as Lego which is very tough. I think they maybe made a mistake with the design of the speaker connection between the two halves of the device and there is the well known fader issue which is in many cases probably caused by people pushing the cap down onto the slider, the hole is too small. I had to spend a good 10 minutes making it bigger with a needle file and it was still a tight squeeze to get it on. These are not build quality issues, they are production errors. The main problem I'm having is that the software is still problematic and I don't like using a device when I'm not sure if what I'm working on is going to disappear or change the next time I turn it on. It's a fun toy and it looks nice but once the novelty wears off and the buzz dies down it's weaknesses start to stand out, i'e, changes to pan, filter, envelope affect the entire layer, no individual filtering per voice. Visual feedback is seductive and flashy but also minimalist and there is no undo function, no indivudual outs etc. It's a fun device but not a do it all sampler, I don't think it's even possible to reverse samples on this and setting start and endpoints is a nightmare, I'm sending it back.
@@playpm I saw a video from a guy who compared to the SP and his other samplers/arrangers and found there were some features on the PO-33 that the KO-II didn't have, which is ridiculous considering the premium for it. But maybe I'll go back to Koala since its functionality has really improved that much
1:20 Michael turns into Florian Pilz in seconds 😂
Koala Sampler plus free Synth One by Audiokit and you have a hell of possibilities to be creative.
I didn't give up on my musical dreams and take a visual art career to skimp on gear dammit! (You are totally right as usual but I think my wife has trumped us both this Xmas)
As always, thanks for speaking common sense that people need to hear. The anti-capitalist hero we need.
“We got KO II at home”
KO II at home: 🐨
Some wisdom shared. Wow.
You are absolutely correct, thank you for knocking some sense into me. Seriously. I have enough devices, enough gear, etc. What I really need to do is myself into gear with improving my abilities and skills, I need to actually sit down and make music rather than fiddling with loop after loop after loop on new toys.
You also don't have to go traveling, you can always drop a yellow man on any point on Google Maps and see the place.
1. Cheaper
2. Can visit unlimited number of places in one hour
3. No sweat.
4. No need to spend vacation days!
just saying.
Already did them all 😋
This is like a mini godwin argument. @playpm is just right. Its not justifiable objectively
@@g8610gI know I know. Already downloaded the app and found it super convenient and functional! Spent an hour yesterday with my son, making beats on it 😊.
But there is also a value in putting your phone/computer away and play.
I have it...Koala is pretty cool.
I actually agree with this one, I am a TE hater really lol, i dont want to be, i thought this ko2 looked pretty cool, but ive seen lots of problems with it, and i hate the workflow. I love my sp404mk2 and it does way more and it jives with me and I can just throw it in my backpack and go play a show without worrying that my laptop is going to crash or need an update or something like that
plus live shows on a laptop are usually pretty boring, i like setting up right in the middle of the venue and being surrounded by the sparse crowd and taking my free drink tickets and going home hahaha
the final point was, you might think that you learn stuff from a new synth or whatever
that is definitely the case, learning all the ways in my diy synth journey has made me a much better musician that i definitely wouldnt have been without building each block and learning every little part of it
I think it was worth the cost for some of it, I definitely think most of this stuff can be done with one or two synths, or as you say playpm "for free" haha
I also hate being at a computer all day for work and then going to make music and have fun on a computer
For me is just a big screen or small screen thing in my brain now 😄
@@playpm haha
Michael your vids are such a sobering and re-aligning energy in this world of new stuff. While gas does not affect me a as much - your reminder to make music with what you have is always relevant. Thanks and keep up the good work!
Step 1: break fader
I want to buy a 1010 blackbox while I already have an iPad with koala, just because it looks better on a table with gear.
Please help 😋
I'm tired of working 8 hours a day with a laptop in front of my face and when I get home I don't feel like a computer anymore so I prefer to buy devices like this one you criticize or an SP-404, Elektron etc. As simple as that. Greetings!.
Totally feel you, after bought everything you mentioned, I got tired of repeating myself learning how to do the same old tricks on different gear.
You can’t teach a new trick to an old dog😂
Man you are my hero, everytime i have the impulse on buying new gear i always return to your channel and i stop the impulse. Thanks a lot!
No fadergate with Koala 🤷🏼♂️
Thanks for this, you helped me digging out the KOII factory sample pack 🙌
Your are great!
Finally a sane viewpoint to contrast all the GAS. Kudos!
Wdym you can’t finetune your notes? You can.
When they released it, I thought: What’s special about this one. And you’re right: Nothing. 😅
Honestly, the EP-133 doesn't look good or worth it at all. I feel bad for the people who are getting suckered into purchasing that clearly overpriced gear. Good video again Playpm!
What you’re saying is absolutely correct.
But is that how humans work?
Is that how creatives work?
All straight forward and logical?
Did Picasso only keep the necessary paint cans around?
I’m not defending the “buying a bunch of useless hardware” thing.
But some guys like it.
Some guys will have an ASR10, MPC3000,A Push and whatever.
Then see a video on how a guy uses his MPC with Ableton and samples everything to his ASR . Now he’s panting again. Maybe he hates making music on computer apps.
Maybe he’s not budget conscious.
And doesn’t like apps for creating.
All kinds of people out there.
They’re not stupid for being who they are.
I know a guy that spent his life not spending money .
He bought no gear and thought it was stupid.
Then he went broke.
His business went away.
Then he came to my house and saw all this classic sht.
At first he was like “why?”
Now he’s like “wow!”
All my gear tripled/quadrupled in value from what I paid for it.
And is all over the internet. Boosting its value.
If times get funky I can sell a piece and be good. Real good!
All I’m saying is that there are different ways of looking at this thing.
Do violinists really need a Stradivarius ?
No.
It’s just a well made violin.
But it’s full, loud, and immediate!
Play one string and it’s like WOW!
They go for 3,16, 20 million!
Are they practical? No.
Should anybody buy one? Sure, go for it. You can always sell it later.
And you, in your lifetime, can say you owned one.
Is that stupid?
Not to some!
I mean, why climb a mountain?
Fly first class.
Buy classic Jordans?
Pay $1500 at a steak house for 4 people.
Go to Mr Chow for dinner?
😂
You are 100% right. New gear can not make up for the lack of creativity. I love your work. Keep it up. God bless. Sani
a hardware workflow can totally change your creative process and enhance creativity. there is a reason why people choose to go dawless/outside of the computer. people who work with computers, for example
to "remind" people that they can just use their computer for free is not a revelation
Im totally with u when u say “better improve your skills” and overall this GaS thing. Thank u for that sobriety!
But!
I guess why I dont see anybody who making solid stylish creative music with koala? I mean, if I can pick up top 100 beatmakers, chances to meet someone with koala is close to zero. Why?
I think what you did there is pretty unfair. Teenage engineering is a brand well known for affordable gear and they really want everyone to buy their stuff. Do not tell me that you are among those poor people that do not directly replace the toilet bowl after using it instead of merely flushing
Nothing will dissuade me from my fully kitted out hardware studio......welll ...its never 'fully' kitted out, it never will be, thats the fun for me. I have a 4k mac mini and studio monitor with an arturria keylabs mk II 88 Key controller with loads of vsts abd plugins, Komplete, the lot, but personally none of it compares to messing with my Polybrute or Iridium, patching the midi thru my mrcc router and routing it through my big sky reverb and microcosm pedals.
I spent most my life working on a PC , im in my 40s now so thats probably why i prefer twiddling the knobs more......if im feeling extra Hainbach i have tape looper and video projector from the 50's! Which create some crazy old skook scratches and visuals.
Its all just preference imo, and of course, what you can afford etc.
Id agree the ep-133 is basically a toy but I bought it knowing that, and judging it on that basis ive had a lot of fun messing around with it
Love your videos. Having hardware in your hands is a big part of the enjoyment though but yes, this thing is pretty limited.. 64mb..malicious gimping to have a retro vibe... whyyyy???.
Appreciated, I just make the sound, try to push them work harder.
I don’t use Koala enough…. If I did I wouldn’t own the SP404mk2 AND the KO2!!
So basically, your argument is relevant to all hardware samplers, doesn’t it? Don’t buy a hardware, buy a software and you are gas free. I guess you have never open a new hardware box, have that blood rushing to your vains, hook it up to cables then to your monitors, press that on button, wait for a while, then press those physical buttons instead of that pc keyboard or an ipad screen. J Dilla has just rolled over in his grave. I am sorry that you paid 400.-Usd. But with 299, you can just have a nice dinner with a bottle of nice wine. It is actually a steal, give it sometime and TE will fix them and with their non stop software updates it will become a nice full blown sampler. Just be patient. People already made nice beats with K.O.II. And it is the no.1 selling sampler in the World as we speak. Kudos to those software lovers, but gas therapy jargone isn’t cut for every hardware, some of them here to stay and you know it. Cheers.
It‘s trash out of the box. fell for exactly what u describe, bought it, unpacked it, discovered #fadergate, and sent it back. what a pile of junk!
I’ve been waiting for this one!
If you get a proper device, it is a tremendous piece of gear. It looks amazing and it’s inspiring to make music on it. You need to hold it in ur hand to know what I mean. I watch on my Screen 10 hours a day. That’s enough. I love my K.O. 2
Thank you . This sounds very good . I just need to play found sound samples chromaticaly that i can record directly into . I will try this .
Some very interesting points. But i think there are unnecessarily negative points of views to what is a very beautiful sounding sampler (k02) ive just been learning how to use it by making a track and am immensely satisifed. Im 25 years deep in music and there is nothing at all wrong with a "toy". We all should let ourselves play. It doesnt have to be more.
Sometimes draw.. sometimes paint. Its about the flow and letting it happen.
Look at what dilla did with early mpc and SP models. I dont doubt koala and im definately going to check that out too. But im also qiite happy using an interface with no screen.
Yes! Finally someone said the truth. Don't spend your time and money trying to find better tools... work on improving your skillset as a musician.
you are right with the koala sampler i made whole songs with it ...its surely the best unbeatable programmed 88MB DAW with MSDOS graphics ...even a beast yes ....but the pressure of the PO 133 / 2 hardware device isnt reachable 4 software bear like koala...it reminds me of the pressure from the Yamaha SU700.. Most musicians do not understand when producers start 2 chose the lower bit quality over an overdressed newish bitmonster what sounds like garbage can beats with a compressoin of an plastic bottle.... 4 HIP HOP /BOOMBAP /RAP Beats... such kind of these hardware samplers are the shit ...4 real...i just talk about my expierences ....Greets from Austria peace
I was wondering whether or not this will be about koala . :) anyway .. did you get my message about this little hidden tracker for chiptunes ? :)
thank you for that video!!!!:-) Always its good to be reminded about GAS issues. Bless
In my view, having a hardware sampler is not a comparison with what you can or can't do in software, it's a feeling of playing on an instrument, which you lack when you're using a software.
+1 to this: 4:53 "It's just a good-looking toy, makes you feel good while pressing the buttons. If you want to make music, then you should make music... and put your time and effort on improving your skills." I love toys, but the EP-133 KO-2 seems like it's only for making quick low-effort beats, and I'd rather use something designed for actually producing complete songs.
I mean, it seems like an ok app, but I feel like this misses the point of the KO II. It feels like it was made by someone who hasn’t used any TE gear before.
Well, koala is great. But a piece of physical gear is just something else ....but TeenageEngineering's stuff cost way to much for what it does. Look at their freaking field table....
Gracias bro estos vídeos son necesarios y aportan un gran valor. Ojalá Koala pueda esponsorear tu gran trabajo!
Someone recommend me the best best pad for koala sampler!
I want to buy this cheap iPad and just slang all my knowledge in it, even make more UA-cam videos!
this is great advice to not buy lots of synth or music gear. The Virus TI2 was one of the greatest hardware all in one synths in a box outside of working just ITB in a DAW.
As soon as i saw this calculator i thought: OH NO! I have to learn what i already know everything again???!! N F* Way!
@playpm you forgot one point, KO ii can only store 64 mb of memory.
For that alone it is over priced
imposing limitations can definitely enhance creativity. computer-less hardware brings new creative workflow processes. learning different new gear is inspiring and helps you to learn to work with the tools you're given. im not a proponent of this awful sampler, but to propose a computer as an alternative to an instrument is ridiculous
thanks so much Michael for those videos! greetings from italy
Ticking all the boxes! Florian are you hiding behind the plant?
I agree 100%
Koala is AWESOME!!!
stuff like koala gives old phones a new purpose haha dedicated sampler and sample/best of everything collection etc. also the touchscreens and displays are still amazing. also your content is amazing keep us on the wright path haha:)
Cool video. I agree with a lot of what you say. To the using of the computer keyboard, i have tried countless times over the years and
use it for auditioning sounds for a few seconds but if i want to play a melody i will use my external midi keyboard.
The computer keys dont feel good to me if i play more than one note. The tactile feeling .
For the Koala i can imagine the akai mpd 218 pad controller as being the perfect partner and you can get it relatively cheap used i suppose.
Its an amazing controller if you want to play with samplers.
I understand people that want to use something like the ko 133 . It is the idea using a dedicated hardware for the tactile feeling.
Teenage engineering is a weird company that i am not supporting but i get the appeal and design.
I share your view that you can use anything to make music.
The defining instrument is ones own mindset after all
I use the MPD218 with koala! It's perfect for it, a go to combo for me to jam or just catalogue samples
Always a big Thank You for keeping us focus and show lighting Koala Sampler as a better alternative than the EP-133, for I've been a Koala Sampler user since day one! Again, Thank you from the Koala Sampler Community.
What community? Please…How on earth a 4 dollar app can have a community? How do you come up with these kind of crap. Do the community gather somewhere we don’t know of? By the way, there tens of sampler apps, do they have communities?
Apples and oranges... And you got your phone/macbook for free?!?
To be honest, if you want a sample based tool for free then MPC Beats is a million times better than Koala
thank you i had a GAS problem in photography. your channel slaps
❤❤❤
Had exactly the same thought, glad I could avoid the gas purchase
Surely you buy teenage engineer products for their industrial design..?
God bless you Michael. You do a public service sir.
I already replicated it. I went to the second hand store and bought a 10 key
👏🏽 this approach to gear really separates the doers from the dreamers
as someone who bought and returned a ko 2 with a bad fader, heed my words: use what you've got, and don't let the gas overtake you
That Cuckoo's intro killed me man 😂
I love how you advocate for DIY when it's more affordable and high quality!
I don’t need this PO thing even if they gave it to me for free, but the other tools are cool 😀