Why KTM Killed a legend

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  • Опубліковано 25 гру 2024

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  • @SalPanzarella
    @SalPanzarella Рік тому +19

    i owned a Husaberg FE501 and it was by far the best handling motocross bike ive ever ridden. it was also very fast and light, i mean very fast ! also the suspension was great. The only reason i got rid of it was that it was a bitch to start and the Dellorto carburator was a piece of trash. i got a KTM 450 exc after that and it was nowhere near the machine of Husaberg, but the electric start sure was nice . I now ride a Yamaha YZ250x which has the centralized weight that Husaberg pioneered. Without Husaberg i doubt four strokes would be as good as they are today

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому +6

      i feel your pain with the Dellorto's, My Laverda has them. and i agree completely on the impact they had. Ive been researching an "Unsung Heroes of The Industry" video and the Berg section just got too big lol. There was too much to tell for part of a video, so they got their own 🙂 Ride Free my friend

    • @MrKdr500
      @MrKdr500 Рік тому +1

      so your comparing an EXC enduro bike to a motocross bike?

    • @stewart8127
      @stewart8127 Рік тому

      Their new chainsaws are made in China the old ones are way better made in Sweden

  • @ReeseCrenshaw-v2f
    @ReeseCrenshaw-v2f Рік тому +4

    I had a 94 FC600 for over 10 years, loved it - it could climb a tree and I could kick start with my arm in gnarly situations. I had it rebuilt by a factory mechanic who lived on the west coast, I forget his name now. After that it ran so good. I had custom radiator guards made, bought the extra fuel cell, big gun exhaust, and street legalized it with a capacitor - had an AC circuit for the headlight to keep it bright, and DC circuit for the blinkers and brake light. But it had one serious flaw that caused me to get rid of it in the end. I wish I still had it, but at the time when it wouldn't start again - I was fed up dealing with the stator issue. The big problem was the stator was mounted to the engine case, so it easily overheated and failed. I went through 4 stators and they were getting hard to find. I used Guy Cooper's trick to vent the stator case into the air box, that helped - but didn't solve the problem.

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому +2

      the voice of experience speaking :-) Cheers for watching mate and thanks for the comment, enjoy your weekend

  • @Amonzi
    @Amonzi Рік тому +15

    the 70-degree engine was the best engine of all time! my FS570 is now 11 years old and runs like new 🙂

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому +2

      🙂Cheers for watching mate. Ride Free 🙂

    • @Subaruktm
      @Subaruktm Рік тому

      Parts still available ?

    • @Amonzi
      @Amonzi Рік тому

      @@Subaruktm yes, I live in Austria and it's no problem over here 🙂

  • @johnkneetheboy
    @johnkneetheboy Рік тому +1

    Hi from Western Australia....Amongst my shed of 2strokes, hides a 550 Husaberg..... low miles, one owner, used but very tidy....i just changed the w/p seals and serviced it ready for some desert fun..an excellent historical review, for an awesome bike...
    Cheers mate

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому

      enjoy it mate 🙂Cheers for watching and keeping another one alive. Ride Free 🙂

  • @dcorbin5779
    @dcorbin5779 Рік тому +7

    This is great thanks for keeping history alive

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому +2

      Cheers mate, I do my best to give credit where its due

  • @adamschroder4092
    @adamschroder4092 Рік тому +4

    Thanks for a great video.
    I own the 09 FE450(70deg) and although it's old and constantly needing work, it still munches up hills and regularly matches mates on their new machines. My son has the 14 berg TE125, which is notably better than husky and ktm equivalents. Im just gonna plug away with the old berg. It's been a great bike and at 50yrs old, it's still more then I need. It'll do open track flat put and hard enduro, if I have the energy.

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому

      good on you for keeping it going mate, and cheers for watching

  • @joehammond1247
    @joehammond1247 Рік тому +4

    Husaberg will always remain as a shining light of innovation and dedication to efficiency of design versus pure profit!

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому +1

      I will second that 🙂Cheers for watching and for the comment mate. Ride Free 🙂

  • @FilipeDiogo49
    @FilipeDiogo49 Рік тому +3

    This is why I love your channel.
    Always good stories

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому +1

      Glad you enjoy it mate 🙂 Cheers for watching, ride free

    • @FilipeDiogo49
      @FilipeDiogo49 Рік тому +1

      @@barebonesmc you ever heard of AJP motorcycles? They're made in Portugal, a crazy adventure started by 2 brothers.... somewhere in the late 1980's

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому

      @@FilipeDiogo49 yep, i love the PR7, it got a mention here a while ago ua-cam.com/video/FMRijvHGGok/v-deo.html i just wish it had a pillion seat, but i understand why they made it solo because of the ABS laws, but great bikes. cheers for watching mate

  • @katuhra-_-5869
    @katuhra-_-5869 Рік тому +1

    love the video, excellent topic and great story telling. If i could change one thing it would be your transmission cuts. Its nice not to have a hard cut but those swirly things are kinda making me feel ill. Still, great video and keep on making them :)

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому

      glad you enjoyed it, i do use a standard fade most of the time but i do experiment now and again 🙂Cheers for watching. Ride Free 🙂

  • @sadwingsraging3044
    @sadwingsraging3044 Рік тому +3

    Never even heard of em much less rode one. Hate to hear of a pack of local lads wherever they are that set out to slay the dragon and manage to do it only to have the wyrms sweep in and gather all the treasure.
    Fitting memorial to their history you made here. I love this kind of thing.😊👍🏻

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому +2

      cheers mate, some companies deserve to be remembered more than others :-). thanks for your feedback

  • @erebus_nyx4294
    @erebus_nyx4294 Рік тому +1

    Another great video! Thx for the info and the story...i got a little angry and sad but husaberg have a spot in my heart now even i have never ridden one ! And my respect! Cheers everyone stay safe!

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому

      :-) Cheers for watching mate and thanks for the comment, enjoy your weekend

  • @antoniopace2001
    @antoniopace2001 16 днів тому +1

    I recently bought a 2003 FS 650 and it was a really powerful bike, too much powerful. What a shame the end of this storic brand😢

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  16 днів тому

      Looks like ktm are paying the price now

  • @dough7612
    @dough7612 Рік тому +2

    Thank you for this video! I haven't even watched it yet but I hope & pray they are reintroduced at some point under Husqvarna. Husky began in the 1600s as a firearms producer for the Swedish Crown! I am always looking out for big bore Husaberg to build another supermoto out of. I absolutely love the 70DEG configuration. Thanks again brother!

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому +1

      I wish, the engineers are well gone now i think, probably working in an industry that appreciated them more, , Cheers for watching, ride free

    • @andersf5464
      @andersf5464 Рік тому

      We thank you, Jan, for saving Vienna from muslim invasion 1683, otherwise KTM wouldn't have come to be - or Europe as we know it.

  • @lejacksmc
    @lejacksmc Рік тому +1

    Good vidéo 👍
    Thanks for the french subs 😉

  • @williamleonardo8478
    @williamleonardo8478 Рік тому +2

    I have had 12 rosenbergs all the way to 2009 they were badass still have this day my 2005 fe-5 50

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому +1

      it was an early 501 that I had the chance to ride years ago. It just made everything feel easier. it did make me think i was better than i actually was lol

  • @BlockHead805
    @BlockHead805 Рік тому +6

    I agree with your concerns with the fate of MV Agusta. Beyond control unfortunately.

    • @zefautino
      @zefautino Рік тому +4

      MV is destined to become another KrapTM with yet another colour.
      Yes, the days of breathtaking MV's are long gone, and that 3 cylinder... With KrapTM at the helm, it's over. Soon MV's will be rebranded Chinese crap, as is Benelli.

    • @BlockHead805
      @BlockHead805 Рік тому +2

      I’m 61 now and at least I have my 2016 Dragster RR!

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому +3

      sad times, the death of the specialists it seems . Cheers for watching mate, ride free

    • @benmanning4340
      @benmanning4340 Рік тому +1

      ​@@zefautinoyes I know what you mean, my dad owns a benelli tornado tre 900. It really is Italian exotica and quality, but as usual they didn't last very long and were sold to the Chinese in 2005😢

    • @zefautino
      @zefautino Рік тому

      @@benmanning4340 well, Italian motorcycles are unreliable. But last.
      Chinese are unreliable and don't last.

  • @ronniet
    @ronniet Рік тому +2

    I owned an ‘88 and an’89. 501s we’re terrific.

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому

      ridden one but not owned one, did feel like they made me think i was better than i actually was lol

  • @maxxpretzy2557
    @maxxpretzy2557 Рік тому +2

    ...remembering husaberg, one of the only four stroke dirt bike I would have bought...if affordable to me back then...

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому

      they were astonishing bikes 🙂 Cheers for watching mate, ride free

  • @harleyfox5538
    @harleyfox5538 Рік тому

    I have a 1998 Husaberg FS 600S with only 487 miles on it! I am cleaning it up over the winter to ride next year. Bike sat for years. What a score for me

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому +1

      enjoy it mate 🙂Cheers for watching. Ride Free 🙂

  • @dougderby9454
    @dougderby9454 Рік тому +2

    Have had two FE501’s. Fe390 450 and two 570’s of the 70 deg. And a Te300. Still have the 300 and 570’s.

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому

      good on you for keeping these great bikes going 🙂 Cheers for watching mate. Ride Free 🙂

  • @danijelkrpan1365
    @danijelkrpan1365 Місяць тому +1

    I have fe450e 2008, now have 995working hours and still runing great❤

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Місяць тому +1

      Long live the bergs😊🙏

  • @jameshatton4211
    @jameshatton4211 Рік тому +3

    When the Berg's were at their pinnacle, KTM was known as Keep Throwing Money

    • @pgkr67
      @pgkr67 Рік тому

      but still more reliable than the Husas ;-)

    • @jameshatton4211
      @jameshatton4211 Рік тому

      @@pgkr67 yeah expensive and slow. Hussys would only break because someone was ringing it's neck showing off against some 2 stroke, no hussy owner ever felt like it didn't happen for a reason? You know not like getting kicked in the ball by a Yamaha dealer because your 23 YZ450 shatters a piston like it's glass mug and Yamaha won't warranty it because they pulled the logs from the ECU and it said you revved the bike 4800rpm when the maximum rpm during run is 3500rpm or some stupid shit like that?
      People with 23 YZs should just order a weisco piston when they buy the bike 👍

    • @jLkm897
      @jLkm897 Місяць тому

      @@jameshatton4211I regret selling my FS650 best supermoto ever. Now i have ktm exc 525 and thing that makes it great is that engine is basically Husaberg.😂

  • @jamesonpace726
    @jamesonpace726 Рік тому +3

    It is a sad, old story, told again & again....

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому +1

      people forget too easily, as i said in another comment, i was doing a video about unsung heroes of the industry and the Berg section just got too big lol. I mourn their loss, great bikes. 🙂 cheers for watching mate, Ride Free

  • @benmanning4340
    @benmanning4340 Рік тому +2

    In my opinion, the only brand that still stays true to its name is TM racing out of Italy. They are still being hand built. Regarding your comment on brands being reborn but not the same as they were before, gasgas is unfortunately another brand which has been ruined. They were at the height of the competition in the 2000's across trials and enduro. So sad......😢

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому

      TM Racing are a special bunch. and I know they dont build the engines themselves but AJP do a pretty good job too, and in another niche you could say CCM might fit, but independant companies are on the decline these days, the days of the specialists seem to be numbered as they say

  • @siebrenduenk9808
    @siebrenduenk9808 Рік тому +1

    This footage tells it how it is ❤ rode myself a 92 350 fe,93 350 fe, 94 95 96 97 98 600 fc and in 2003 04 05 a 550 fc. Loved every lap on it. Eyes out of your socket power!

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому +1

      Thanks for sharing 🙂Cheers for watching mate. Ride Free 🙂

  • @keithwillcome2580
    @keithwillcome2580 Рік тому +1

    I have a habit of finding and keeping brands of bikes that were founded by disgruntled engineers with no business sense. 😂 I have had a 2005 Gas Gas 200 for a long time and a Buell 1125CR so when i wanted to add a 4 stroke dirt bike to use for dual sport there was only one choice and now i love my FE390. It has the innovation of husaberg and just enough ktm parts commonality to make maintenance easy and great community support. Loved the video!

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому

      Great story and a nice habit lol, i guess i look for the "overlooked" bikes a lot, you might find this video interesting, it hasnt had much coverage from youtube, i dont think they liked the title, but I think youll enjoy it ua-cam.com/video/VQWQeo0R_KI/v-deo.html 🙂Cheers for adding your bit mate. Ride Free 🙂

  • @richardscovell6620
    @richardscovell6620 Рік тому +2

    Brilliant summary of corporate monopolization & asset stripping....many thanks

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому

      a sad story we should remember, it might make people support more smaller companies

  • @Bmedlin0626
    @Bmedlin0626 Рік тому +1

    Great information! I have a ‘08 FE450E that I bought last year. Needed engine work and parts are hard to come by here in the States. Speaking of the bike though, I was really surprised by the technology in it compared to my Japanese bike. I am however not a fan of the crankcase/cylinder design. It makes for rebuilding a lot more expensive and time consuming. Again, great video and thanks for the info!

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому

      great bikes 🙂 Cheers for watching mate. Ride Free 🙂

  • @EnergyXyz
    @EnergyXyz Рік тому +5

    Thanks for the story, youre a great teller. That was very interesting, didn't knew about KTM and thier "evil" ways.

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому +3

      i guess i maybe seperate KTM the brand that once were and the combined assets of Pierer Mobility. and i just think the world is better for having small specialists. no one needs any more big corporations, weve got too many already 🙂cheers for the comments mate, enjoy the weekend

    • @pgkr67
      @pgkr67 Рік тому +1

      Well Husa were allready on the brink of bankrupcy. Ktm gave them 7-8 more years in the market.

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому

      @@pgkr67 thats one way to look at it 🙂 enjoy the weekend mate

  • @triskelworkshop2855
    @triskelworkshop2855 Рік тому +1

    I presume a lot of this footage was filmed on some part of the UK TET trails ? If so, could you tell me wat part please ?

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому +1

      some in the UK but not all, and probably not TET route, if i remember part of this footage was just a random section of green lanes in Cumbria. i just follow OS maps mate and see where i end up lol

    • @triskelworkshop2855
      @triskelworkshop2855 Рік тому +1

      @@barebonesmc ok, thanks

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому

      @@triskelworkshop2855 sorry i couldnt be more helpful mate, i just have crossed marked on all my (about 50 lol) OS Landranger maps lol

    • @triskelworkshop2855
      @triskelworkshop2855 Рік тому +1

      @@barebonesmc no worriers.
      Heading for the ABR festival next week out of Belgium. Will be doing ,or at least trying parts of the great mid-england TET on the way up there. Just was curious

    • @triskelworkshop2855
      @triskelworkshop2855 Рік тому +1

      Hope to make at least 1 deasent video to post on my channel wilest on the road.
      So far it'ts been only tryouts with camera's and so

  • @brazoon1
    @brazoon1 Рік тому +1

    Hello Sir, your content is fantastic and I would expect continued subscriber growth etc. I'd like to offer some constructive criticism motivated by nothing other than goodwill. In some of your videos the audio of the background tracks are a bit too loud and occasionally make it difficult to hear the narration track. Again, great channel and best of luck to your continued success!!

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому

      cheers mate, it can be a difficult balance at times, but ill take it onboard, the one this week about the 250's was particularly problematic so hope you are ok with it

    • @brazoon1
      @brazoon1 Рік тому +1

      @@barebonesmc Hey that 250 video was another great one. There were a few moments where the audio was competing a bit but it's not terrible. I only mentioned it because everything else about your channel is so strong and I want to see you thrive. I've only recently found your channel so I have a lot of content to binge. Woohoo!! PS. My brother is a 2 time Emmy award winning recording engineer. Me on the other hand, I've accomplished nothing! LOL!

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому +1

      @@brazoon1 i think sometimes, by the time i upload it ive heard my voice so many times the bikes are easier on the ear lol, but i am still learning 🙂 until earlier this year id only used the channel to store old video footage i had 🙂 cheers for the support mate

  • @edivollgas719
    @edivollgas719 Рік тому +1

    might be a scramble tech timeline video would be great ?
    MX bikes came from heavy 4stroke Goldstars and Huskys Hedlund .... via lightweight BSAs and then the long travel suspension era. Alan clews fighting into the seventies with fourstroke lt suspension bikes .... then it was all 2stroke for years....then husaberg ktm yam to turn it back to 4stroke ....

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому

      interesting :-) this actually came because since the Maverick bikes video ive been researching an Unsung Heroes video idea i had, but ill put the idea in the long list that i have and it may come up at some point, cheers for the idea, enjoy your day mate

  • @tonyjourneyman1944
    @tonyjourneyman1944 Рік тому +3

    Nice video, I've only seen a few Husabergs here in Australia and will need to look up Highland now.

    • @tonyjourneyman1944
      @tonyjourneyman1944 Рік тому +1

      Hmm Highland bikes look good I saw an article from last year saying a Chinese manufacturer is interested in a partnership with them. I bought an SWM in 2020 that I ended up not liking much, another European/Chinese partnership. CFMoto is the best of the Chinese bikes I think. Good luck to Highland!

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому

      The chief engineer died in a plane crash years back so all they could do is copy the old designs, theres some of the story in here ua-cam.com/video/VQWQeo0R_KI/v-deo.html 🙂 Cheers for watching mate, ride free

    • @kjelleriksson2793
      @kjelleriksson2793 Рік тому +1

      @@barebonesmc I had a friend who was one of the two or three guys who made Husqvarna what it was in the '80s. He helped to steer things right at Husaberg too. However, he also visited Highland, helped them with the engine but told them the their bike wouldn't work, too much hp and the engine too far back in the frame. It would always go with the front wheel in the air. They didn't listen and then they had to build a new frame. My friend called them idiots. You won't find his name anywhere and I won't tell you. He died a couple of years ago from blood poisoning. If you find a small road race bike with a tuned Husky single in Australia, you now know where it came from. I still have a piston from the engine of that bike.

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому +1

      @@kjelleriksson2793 sounds an interesting story 🙂 i can respect you not saying too much but im intrigued now, cant find anything initially but i will see what i can find at some point :-) cheers for watching mate

  • @dirtbikediary
    @dirtbikediary Рік тому +2

    I've just come across a Husaberg over here in Phnom Penh and was considering buying it. I'm thinking about the price of spare parts though.

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому +1

      might not be easy, but great bikes, good forums should help, try asking on a few

  • @TheThcan52
    @TheThcan52 Рік тому

    The first Husaberg was a raw bike. Nobody could win with it. Who made Husaberg competitive were Vertemati brothers in Italy. Not the swedish engineer. The swedish were conservatives. The Vwrtemati were 10 years in front. So Husaberg gave to Vertemati to manage the racing department and they contracted Joel Smets. But in 1993 Vertemati decided to built his own bike and in 1994 almost won the World Championship with Smetz. All the effots done in 1994 made Vertematis totally financially brocken. Smetz went back to Husaberg bringing all the experience made with Vertemati. And became 4 time World Champion. At the end I can say that without Vertemati the Husaberg never would achieve what he did.

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому +1

      Cheers for adding this. Interesting stuff I knew nothing about being honest. I will do some digging . As i have often said, if we could amass the combined knowledge of all the subscribers we would have the most comprehensive motorcycle encyclopedia ever 🙂

  • @MrUncurbed
    @MrUncurbed Рік тому

    I own 3, a -07 FE550, -07 FS650 Motard and a -13 FE501, I also had a -10 FE390 70 degree for a couple of years.

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому

      Lucky man, great bikes 🙂 Cheers for watching mate. Ride Free 🙂

  • @jLkm897
    @jLkm897 Місяць тому +1

    I really regret selling my FS650 it was best supermoto ever. Now i have ktm exc 525 that i got really cheap. Best part of that bike is engine and of course it is basically Husaberg engine.😄

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Місяць тому

      I still have a mate who regardless of many newer bikes still loves his berg most 😊

  • @simonchilli2088
    @simonchilli2088 Рік тому +2

    I've never owned one. However a Canadian/English YT channel has one and a selection of videos taken on Vancouver Island. This maybe of interest to you and others.

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому

      a mate has and still runs one as part of their business fleet but cheers

  • @fastbandit1250
    @fastbandit1250 Рік тому +1

    Had a 650 berg supermoto , power wheelies in nearly all gears , awesome bike

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому

      glad it jogged some good memories mate 🙂Cheers for watching. Ride Free 🙂

  • @Jurgy777
    @Jurgy777 Рік тому +1

    Some riding friends give me hell about keeping my fe390 after all these years. Not much i can say, it's been the most dependable bike I've ever owned.

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому

      great bikes mate, you enjoy it, I have a friend who has an off road school and he has kept his old 501, now, certain riders go there purely and simply for the chance to ride the old Berg even though hes got choices of almost all the newer bikes you could imagine 🙂 Cheers for watching mate. Ride Free 🙂

  • @carlosmurgelcddr.1418
    @carlosmurgelcddr.1418 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for thereat video! Had a FE 390 and loved that bike.

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому

      🙂Cheers for watching mate. Ride Free 🙂

  • @dufushead
    @dufushead Рік тому +1

    Great video. I'd loved to have owned one, but didn't even know they existed b4 watching. I enjoy your chanel and think it's possibly the best on bikes on YT currently. Plus you don't have advertsing nor try and break my balls to become a patron or guilt trip the audience into buying some shit. Thanks.

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому +1

      cheers mate, The Tshirts etc are something ive been doing for years, long before youtube, and they sell themselves so i dont have to push them, i just do occasional shorts and usually only if im anouncing a sale or something new. i personally hate mindless "self grooming" interludes lol, ive got a beard, and trim it with a pair of scissors when it needs it lol, and if i ever start talking about certain VPN's you are perfectly entitled to turn me off :-) There is something coming up but it will be a specified video that is bike related and ive managed to haggle a free one to use as a giveaway to subscribers, that way, if people want to watch and enter the competition they can, choice is everything to me and i appreciate everyones time is valuable, I try not to waste it :-) cheers for the comment, have a great day

  • @markblundell9461
    @markblundell9461 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for that story. I just didn’t know.

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому

      some things get deliberately obscured, cheers for watching mate, ride free

  • @phillarsson8253
    @phillarsson8253 Рік тому +1

    I've worked on Husqvarna TE510's aswel as on Husabergs and enjoyed Jacky Martens and Joël Smets getting their world titles for Husqvarna and Husaberg. Finally some brands stood up to years of domination of the 'big four (Japs)'. One thing though both engineers in both companies (Husqvarna and Husaberg) seemed to forget in development is that a four stroke engine needs a good lubrification system and you just can't do that using a sort of reed valve pump system to do the job properly. What the hell were they thinking? They were not the only ones that overlooked the importance of a well-based lubrification system... even master-engineer Fabio Taglioni in all his geniousity made a huge mistake when designing his first bevel-twin Ducati engines and thinking it might be ok not to filter oil before to be pumped up lubricating those large big-end rods. before you take on KTM, you should know that KTM was already taking interest of re-introducing four strokes into MX-GP long before there was ever a mention of the brand name of Husaberg. Check out motorcross videos from 86-87 and you'll see.

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому +1

      I never pretend to be infallible mate lol, ill take a look back, It isnt what was the core KTM company was that i have issues with, i just dont like big corporations to be honest lol. Cheers for watching and the comment, Ride Free

    • @pgkr67
      @pgkr67 Рік тому +1

      @@barebonesmc Well i get that, but at the same time remember that Husky has never ever sold so many bikes as they do now. And they not just rebadged ktms. they run their own frames, and own suspension setup..

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому

      @@pgkr67 im not arguing that Pierer mobility group are good at business 🙂 and what you say might be true for some but not all the bikes. The Norden is just a clone in different clothes. the suspension a cheaper and less well specced set up than the KTM, because wo betide Husqvarna actually make an ADV bike that outperforms its KTM brother 🙂ejoy the ride mate, cheers for watching, Ride Free 🙂

    • @pgkr67
      @pgkr67 Рік тому +1

      @@barebonesmc Well yes the standard Norden has cheaper suspension than the 890 R model, but actually better suspension than the 890 S version. Thy frame on the husky is also different than the 890 adv since its a touring bike, not a hardcore offroadbike, so geometri is changed. Fuel tank is different too. The Norden and the 890 are two different bikes, and they ride differently, because they are made for different purposes. In some aspects the Norden is a better bike than the ktm. Your welcome, have a nice ride, and keep up the content making...

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому

      @@pgkr67 ill accept if im wrong, i did just think the Norden was in effectively the same frame, how do the tanks differ? the low slung tanks are one of the things that put me off, i was a bike as narrow as possible, especially down low where the rocks lurk 🙂

  • @tornero5898
    @tornero5898 Рік тому

    Thanks, great video!

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому

      Glad you enjoyed it mate, cheers for watching, enjoy your day

  • @hadrianhaine5204
    @hadrianhaine5204 Рік тому +1

    You didn't mention their Super Motad success. The 650 is still very competitive 20 years later

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому +1

      A subject i know less about to be fair, but they live on in many ways. A friend who runs the Adventure Rider Centre still has customers who come specifically to ride his old Berg. none of the other bikes have that allure. And as i have often said, if we could amass the combined knowledge of all the subscribers we would have the most comprehensive motorcycle encyclopedia ever 🙂

  • @Mar_Tin
    @Mar_Tin Рік тому +5

    When BMW calls his 1800cc boxer a masterpiece, why a modern 650cc single should not be able to fit today's regulations?

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому +5

      they can, they just dont want to, they would rather squeeze a higher profit margin out of selling you a bigger bike sadly, 🙂 cheers for watching mate, Ride Free

    • @Errol.C-nz
      @Errol.C-nz Рік тому +1

      @@barebonesmc enjoyed that education.. immensely.. chin chin from NZ

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому

      @@Errol.C-nz cheers for watching and for the comment mate, have a great week 🙂

  • @MathiasRiedi-ev9er
    @MathiasRiedi-ev9er Рік тому +1

    A few years ago I fell on my Husaberg 450 in a tight corner. It didn't do anything to the bike, but my beloved Husaberg shirt looked like it had rats living in it. So I still ride the same great bike today and wear the same tattered shirt😀

  • @thomaswayneward
    @thomaswayneward Рік тому +1

    Rode Husky all my life, until they closed shop. They were the best engineered bikes, what took seven parts on a Jap bike, the Husky did with four parts.

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому

      :-) Cheers for watching mate and thanks for the comment, enjoy your weekend

  • @edivollgas719
    @edivollgas719 Рік тому +1

    Also saw the Video from KRANKiT about Husaberg some days ago.
    HUSABERG were the only guys I bought a new bike from in my live until now.
    Still have the 2000 FE600. Before I always got back to my twostrokes after testing fourstrokes . The Husaberg changed my mind ........

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому

      ive seen a few come up recently, but i get allsorts coming up if ive been researching a subject lol, i get bombarded with obscure footage of anything related :-) I was actually researching a video idea about unsung heroes but the Berg section just got too big so i decided to give them their own video :-), Your 600 must be one of the late ones at 2000, was that the last year they made them? Baz at the Adventure Rider Centre has kept his old 600 longer than any of the other bikes they use :-) cheers for watching mate,

  • @zefautino
    @zefautino Рік тому +4

    Everything KrapTM touches turn to 💩.
    It was 2002 when I almost bought a Husaberg. Those were great machines.

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому +1

      indeed, a cut above as they say 🙂 Cheers for watching, ride free

  • @chadkimmel8957
    @chadkimmel8957 Рік тому +1

    I raced a 98 FX 501 in Ohio harescrambles. I don’t think I was ever passed in a straight stretch. Fantastic bikes, but like a beautiful woman, high maintenance.

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому

      built to enjoy the moment mate 🙂Cheers for watching. Ride Free 🙂

    • @nedgreeneltch6770
      @nedgreeneltch6770 Рік тому

      never passed on the 501...you must never have come across the fe600. i had them all except the 550 and 470. the 501 was the best all around. the 600 was too much for ohio scrambles but would stretch your arms if on a straight, and the estart was a blessing.

  • @andretorben9995
    @andretorben9995 Рік тому

    Those Husaberg engineers (previously with husqvarna in pre Cagiva days), were legends. Anyone riding 4 strokes in the mid to late '80's would know what rubbish the Japanese were offerring with 4 stroke bikes TT600, XR600 etc. Big,heavy and lazy docile engines. The TE510 was a breakthrough in true performance 4stroke dirt bikes. They continued that innovation with the 70 degree engine etc. Its unfortunate that smaller companies will always be vulnerable to large corporations regardless of how good their products are.

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому

      good point well put mate 🙂Cheers for the comment. Ride Free 🙂

  • @davidwilliamson9162
    @davidwilliamson9162 Рік тому +2

    I had a fe400 converted her to S/M did a works strengthening on frame too ,they were deemed as unreliable but mine was fine!

    • @dough7612
      @dough7612 Рік тому +2

      I had a '96 and everyone that rode it was highly impressed. It drew so much attention, especially at hare scrambles where it was in its element. The only issue I ever really had was hot or cold starts were bear at times which was its ultimate undoing for me. I miss that tank sometimes still.

    • @davidwilliamson9162
      @davidwilliamson9162 Рік тому

      @@dough7612 I re jetted the idle jet it made the starts easier

    • @davidwilliamson9162
      @davidwilliamson9162 Рік тому +1

      @@dough7612 four stroke force

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому

      i think they were reliable if you were over the top on maintenance like me lol, they didnt like not having frequent oil changes and some people took the piss and got bitten back i think

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому +1

      I rode a 501 once, it made me look and think i was a lot better than i actually was lol great bikes

  • @goose916
    @goose916 Рік тому

    I have 3 650s; a 450 and now, a 550 and wish I had a slant motor (390; 450; 570, I don't care which). Truth is, without KTM, Husaberg would have died due to inability to get good prices on materials and lack of dealer network. The early Bergs were expensive and unreliable as casual riders due to a lack of an oil pump (the spitter was fine for racing, not good on the trail). Still, it was sad to see KTM treat the Berg like a red-headed step child after the acquisition. They really are great bikes.

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому +1

      nice collection. and a fair point, im just not a fan of the way they operate, i hope Gas Gas and MV Agusta don't end up the same way

  • @Crazymotoman03
    @Crazymotoman03 Рік тому

    That is pretty interesting! I always wondered what Husaberg was about, and now I know.

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому +1

      great bikes 🙂 There is more to the story too, Vertamati and Folan both played a part, and the Highland V2 was basically 2 bergs on one crank, you can find them here ua-cam.com/video/VQWQeo0R_KI/v-deo.html Cheers for watching mate. Ride Free 🙂

  • @alanvancleave1068
    @alanvancleave1068 Рік тому +1

    A fx470 was one of the best bikes I ever rode , awesome engine

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому

      🙂Cheers for watching mate. Ride Free 🙂

  • @samjoentess9168
    @samjoentess9168 Рік тому +1

    I am going to have a long stare at my 690 Duke.....Brilliant 👍

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому +1

      lol. i do like the hooligan nature of the 690 🙂have a great day mate

  • @Monkeyboy2457
    @Monkeyboy2457 Рік тому +2

    Legalised theft. I had a 1998 FE501E. At the time Husabergs were significantly faster and lighter than KTM's.

  • @uncletom1971
    @uncletom1971 Рік тому +1

    Well, I have a 2022 KTM 350-excf which I understand now is really a Husaberg.

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому

      great bikes 🙂 Cheers for watching mate. Ride Free 🙂

  • @richardszabo1
    @richardszabo1 Рік тому

    happy to say i owned an fe 450 for a while and had a blast with it

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому

      once youve ridden a Berg.................... 🙂

  • @benmanning4340
    @benmanning4340 Рік тому +1

    If you want a quality bike, just buy a good condition, well maintained older bike from any manufacturer. Even buy an NOS bike if you can find one. Youll find that they were much better built back then and had much better componentry all round. I would never buy a new bike, its just such a waste! My 97 ktm 125 and 07 gasgas 250 are solid and never miss a beat! 👍

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому

      have to say, i had a go on an older EXC125 at a Motocross track and it was completely bonkers, and great fun. When i rode a newer one it did seem a lot tamer🙂Cheers for watching mate. Ride Free 🙂

  • @grahamcheesman9035
    @grahamcheesman9035 Рік тому +1

    I have owned an 04 FE450E for 16 years, great bike, awesome power, can tractor it along or open it up and hang on for dear life. The left hand kickstart can be a bastard though when estart battery flat!!!

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому

      great bikes 🙂 Cheers for watching mate. Ride Free 🙂

  • @pgkr67
    @pgkr67 Рік тому +2

    The Husa 70 Degree was never used in any MX bikes, only enduro bikes, and the american Harescramble classses, Called FX. The Husa 390 has nothing to do with the Ktm 390 engine. No similarities other than being single cylinder fourstrokes. Ktm never got any tech from Husky. When Bmw owned Husky, they shut down the red top engines, 510, 610, 630 etc and created the Terra model with the Rotax engine also used in the bmw 650 Gs and other bikes. bmw developed their own 450 enduro engine, and it later became a Husky 450 and 511, with red valve covers. Ktm only bought the name from Bmw, nothing else. On a personal note, i have never owned a Husaberg, but have had several friends riding them. These were the models prior to the 70 degree models. And i must say. They were not reliable.. The ktms were much better..

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому

      cheers for adding your bit mate, your knowledge appreciated, ejoy the ride , cheers for watching, Ride Free 🙂

  • @mervynthompson9686
    @mervynthompson9686 Рік тому

    Absolutely love my 2012 TE 300, what a beast. 👍

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому

      enjoy it mate 🙂Cheers for watching. Ride Free 🙂

  • @Magill2571
    @Magill2571 Рік тому

    I had 2 1998 600fe's in the early 2000s when I rode in the Flying Gunners Motorcycle display team. It was hilarious to see the guys trying to kick one over.
    I wish I still had one 😪

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому

      great bikes, and we all have bikes we feel like that about mate so i feel your pain 🙂 Cheers for watching mate. Ride Free 🙂

  • @andyand100
    @andyand100 Рік тому +1

    Ktm won’t but wish I d got berg when had chance in 90s but I’m a short arse 😢

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому

      lol, they were physically quite big, but have had shorter riders say they found the berg easier than many others, 🙂cheers for the comment mate, enjoy the weekend

  • @hadrianhaine5204
    @hadrianhaine5204 Рік тому +1

    Thank you. I actually cried

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому +1

      some things we should all remember, this is one without a doubt, i just hope the MV story doesnt end the same way, cheers for watching mate, have a great day

  • @kantutana13
    @kantutana13 Рік тому +1

    are we expecting a cannondale take? hussies are just not accessible compared to what the market had; no support and expensive equals too exotic

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому

      im not up to speed on push bikes, was there a cannondale takeover? and yes i get what you are saying, but there should be space in the market for such iconic machines. 🙂 Cheers for watching, ride free

    • @kantutana13
      @kantutana13 Рік тому +1

      @@barebonesmc i meant cannondale motorcycle from the makers of cannondale bicycles. it was a dirtbike from the 90's; it may have been just a stateside phenomenon

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому

      @@kantutana13 ill have a search 🙂 never come across it

    • @kantutana13
      @kantutana13 Рік тому +1

      @@barebonesmc cannondale x440s; back in the day american magazines were singing praises but company hardly sold units and the consequent demise of the company.

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому

      @@kantutana13 i had a read, sounds like the endless delays and updates didnt help them, if a project is never finished its hard to sell them, and if you keep delaying people just go elsewhere, looked an interesting bike though, Folan engines show their face again 🙂

  • @race8427
    @race8427 Рік тому +1

    Husaberg a shining player that died too young. The same go’s for ATK.

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому

      True,Not a company I am as informed about but what i did find out seems just as sad, have a good day my friend

  • @MrCojinete
    @MrCojinete Рік тому

    He tenido 2 501, 3 450 y 1 400. Magníficas maquinas.

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому +1

      Estoy de acuerdo. Un amigo en España todavía maneja su antiguo 501. 🙂Saludos por mirar y por el comentario compañero. Cabalga gratis 🙂

  • @stevenstreeter1145
    @stevenstreeter1145 Рік тому +1

    Had an fe450, brilliant bike just a bitch to start sometimes

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому

      lol, bike sounds a bit like me lol

  • @jimtitt3571
    @jimtitt3571 Рік тому +1

    Come on, do the research! That dedicated band of engineers were literally long gone before KTM came into the picture, Helmin for example was born in 1928! And the Husaberg engine was not designed by creative Husqvarna engineers, it was developed and built by Folan, 😂a company specialising in small engine design (best known for their 2 cylinder sidecar motocross engines) lead by Fredy Olsson and Lars Nilsonn who became directors of Husaberg.

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому

      ok, maybe ill look again, but the Folan Iceberg is huge lol, and complicated :-) :-) Cheers for watching mate and thanks for the comment, criticism is healthy, enjoy your weekend

  • @izom
    @izom Рік тому +1

    its a shame- but that happens when you sell a company- to a country it dont belong- good old days - made in sweden !! if you find a old one buy it !!

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому

      🙂Cheers for watching mate. Ride Free 🙂

  • @rt2255
    @rt2255 Рік тому +1

    Killed by industry or died cause it did not sell enough to stay around ? Really killed?

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому +1

      you could see it either way to be sure 🙂 Cheers for watching mate, ride free

    • @rt2255
      @rt2255 Рік тому +1

      @@barebonesmc i never rode free always cost me money lol but well worth it. Pay for car as have to have one pay for bikes cause they just make me and giggle like a school girl

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому

      @@rt2255 a figure of speech mate, ride with freedom on your heart is a bit of a mouthful lol

    • @rt2255
      @rt2255 Рік тому

      @@barebonesmc lol i got ya just messing with you. Had a few minutes to kill so tried to be funny, good thing i hot day job would fails as comedian 😅😆🤣😁

  • @ShInYaKu88
    @ShInYaKu88 Рік тому

    i hate KTM for killing Husaberg. Owning a FS570 myself...

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому

      enjoy it mate, im hoping MV doesnt end up suffering the same fate 🙂Cheers for watching. Ride Free 🙂

  • @fredrikeriksson2541
    @fredrikeriksson2541 9 днів тому +1

    Karma om ktm går igraven nu 🎉

  • @Jack-xhit
    @Jack-xhit Рік тому +1

    The world of sales is 100% dependent on marketing….. Husaberg dropped the ball…KTM is not to blame…Huasaberg could have hired a marketing team and didn’t…..so what would you expect?….innovators are innovators….and yes they need to have 100% of the credit for that…..but every rider wants to pay less for bikes and economy’s of scale matter….if you want less expensive products….the fault lays with us the consumer…when we demand better products and are willing to pay higher prices…these sorts of stories will be a thing of the past….just sayin….its us the riders who are to blame…not the companies that just give us what we want….cheap prices….love your videos🥰

    • @rt2255
      @rt2255 Рік тому +1

      Also has a ton to do with market and economy. When times tight toys get put.off. times good toys sell. When and how you market are key, also i am one that sticks with honda and kawasaki. My skills do not reach their limits and parts are readily available even in my not big city town. If i want ktm.ducati or the luke nearest dealers are more than 100 miles away in birmingham al. Or 150 in atlanta. Not worth down time and travel time

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому

      I see your point Jack , having said that, buying a company to sink it is brutal to say the least. but i guess kill the competition and you guarantee the win, if KTM had put a fraction of their marketing budget behing Husaberg instead of asset stripping then we may have had a very different story. cheers for watching mate, ride free

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому

      RT22 true words mate, cheers for watching mate, ride free

  • @DBAUG
    @DBAUG Рік тому +2

    "The Industry"? The Politically Correct Police do not allow you to say the explicit name KTM?

    • @barebonesmc
      @barebonesmc  Рік тому

      lol. some things you dont need to say, but it is a little more nuanced i think. KTM did put the final nails in the coffin though for sure. If Gas Gas or Husky were winning on track do you think they would survive for long? kill the competition and you guarantee victory, a simple philosophy i guess, cheers for watching mate, ride free