The 1/3 rule is often taught in Advanced courses: You should be able to return to the nearside in 1/3 of the distance you can see to be clear for the overtake, to allow for the next MotoGP prodigy coming into view at 120mph just after you commit!
Thanks for your insightfully explained tutorial! By means of these rules, I’m going to be able to cross safely the other side of the lane and overtake without being involved in an accident and not colliding with the oncoming traffic determinedly.
Thanks for video. But still I am making mistakes like misjudging speed, overtaking in curve especially overtaking long vehicles in single way. How to avoid these situations
If, close to the completion of the manoever, I see an oncoming car approaching at a distance, I usually indicate to show I am imminently moving out of their way. Can't do any harm I suppose, and may give comfort to the oncoming driver! Useful? or not? @@AdvanceDrivingSchool
@@JamesEncliffe We would prefer to concentrate on getting back into our lane safely, as doing anything unnecessary might distract us and cause a problem.
You’re advocating overtaking from further back. I was taught to match the speed of the vehicle infront from a safe stopping distance, then close the space to create a better view of the road ahead etc (around 1/4 of the previous distance) and then mirror, signal, shoulder check, move out, decide if the overtake is still possible without changing speed, overtake, other mirror, shoulder check, return to lane.
We should never get closer than 2 seconds to the car in front - as they could brake hard at any moment. Driving closer to the car in front only restricts your view - so once we know it is safe to move to the other lane, move out for a better view than accelerate.
Advance Driving School There’s an interesting contradiction here. I agree with you that reducing the distance can be unsafe and I agree that this is unwise to do but I should mention that for experienced drivers, IAM/Roadsmart, RoSPA and HPC all teach closing the gap in the way I described and under most conditions consider not doing so, to not be their model of training. So if I did this, i’d fail an L test and pass IAM,RoSPA & HPC and if I didn’t, most overtakes would not be possible, even though it’s safe to do when done correctly. My tests are up for renewal soon and i’m wondering how i’ll do this time around.
Yes, it's interesting how teaching methods vary - this is probably due to who they are intended for. Training aimed at inexperienced drivers (which this channel is mainly) will usually try to minimise danger by using a simple method that doesn't need a lot of judgement - but training for more experienced drivers won't be so rigid as the driver has more ability to make quicker decisions. Just do whatever you feel is safest on your tests - good luck!
@@AdvanceDrivingSchool - As former emergency service response, RoPSA Gold and IAM First, like you I don't agree with the reduced following position in any circumstances. It threatens other drivers who may use accelerator retardation, engine braking, brake checking or fog lights to make the driver behind drop back. When driving on blue/sirens folk brake suddenly at inappropriate places as an automatic response to not delaying an emergency vehicle. Driving on blues/sirens requires giving folk more opportunity to see you (positioning) and time to react , with the expectation that their reactions will be sudden and possibly unsafe. Close following positions prior to a response overtake compounds the risk. Once your observations make the overtake appear safe in front and behind (other overtaking vehicles), pull to the offside, maintain the distance, final check for safety and GO.
If people would drive at a sensible speed for the road and conditions, it should seldom be necessary to overtake at all. Drivers crawling along at a speed well below normal, often with a trail of cars behind and usually too close to each other, are a menace. They cause frustration for others and that makes for danger. It is strange that there is such a fuss made about going too fast, but no-one does anything about those who drive ridiculously slowly. I consider those the bigger risk to other drivers.
But first off people don't drive the limit. in fact one of the biggest problems on the road is ignorance of the facts of speedometer error. if your speedometer is off by 5 miles an hour one direction and my speedometer is off by 5 miles an hour in the other and we are both trying to obey the speed limit, we can easly be traveling 10 miles an hour different speed from each other so stop assuming that they are speeding or driving to slow. Get out of the way and stop blaming everything on what you think other people are doing wrong. what you wish people would do may be what they are doing. it's obvious that you're one of these people that has some problem with passing, think people should not pass according to your comment it sounds like you think it would be safer with everybody traveled the same speed next to each other? Always travel faster than traffic to your right and slower than traffic to your left. ( in a left-hand-drive car) and of course the opposite in right hand drive countries.
Starting the maneuver 2 seconds behind...what the hell do you think I drive? A Ferrari?? ;) For lower horsepower cars, building up some speed on your lane (what I call "ramming the car infront") is essential. Timing is everything! You start well behind (which gives you better visibility past the car in front), build speed (correct gear with plenty of revs left to complete the pass), decision point go/no go. Never "ram" the guy in front so close that you can't brake in time should you have to abort the overtake and you rear end the guy you are overtaking. ALWAYS quickly glance at the mirror if somebody is already overtaking you from behind before changing lanes. Also on the "not intimidating the driver in front"...Yes and no. Yes you should never tailgate the vehicle in front for miles where you can't even safely pass like you are drafting for the win in a NASCAR race or something. That is just rude. But at least in my experience, displaying at least some "aggressive behavior" (like coming up behind him at a fast rate of speed (but not tailgating), or positioning for a better overtaking look), that lets the driver in front know (at least if he's doing his job properly-checking the mirrors often) that you are going to overtake eventually and they can prepare for it mentally beforehand. This is at least my opinion. I hate it when (happens a lot with higher hp cars overtaking me), when they drive casually calmly behind me. They display none of the "aggressive behaviors" (with higher Hp they can afford to), I register them in my mirror as just somebody normally following me so I put them "out of mind". Then boom, without warning all of a sudden in less than a second they are door to door with me. Also when you have room to do so, don't cut right back in to your lane after you are done with the overtake. That really helps lessen the "intimidation" factor for the other driver. A good rule is, only start moving back to your lane when you can already see the front headlight of the overtaken car in your side mirrors. A quick glance will do, don't stare at your side mirror throughout the duration of the most dangerous maneuver you can do on the road, the overtake. For the person being overtaken, for Gods sake, maintain your speed, don't accelerate, don't brake, unless it's a real close emergency and you are saving the other guys life from his failed overtaking attempt. Be as predictable as you can be to the driver overtaking you.
Our car only has 90bhp, so it’s just a normal car. We don’t recommend any kind of aggressive behaviour behind other cars, as it can intimidate nervous drivers. Never get closer than 2 seconds behind the car in front, in case they need to brake suddenly.
My fist car had 55hp, hence the above technique. :) Idk, so much about driving is communicating your intent to the other drivers. And in the case of an overtake I personally would rather know about it beforehand, reading their "body language"... ok be ready they will most likely pass you on the next straight. I'd rather risk causing some stress to the few nervous drivers, if it means communicating clearly my intent to all the other drivers. How many "nervous drivers" are there ? Things like positioning yourself closer to the center dividing line before the overtake, communicates to the guy in front you are about to pass (if he's paying attention) and also to the guy behind you that he should not attempt a pass as you are already getting ready to execute yours. Oh and yes before the overtake you should not tailgate so close, like you're and Audi driver on the highway (2 sec is a good rule), however in the case of an overtake, I'd rather risk the chance of driving in the back of someone, rather than not making the pass and finding myself in a head on collision. It's a risk trade off you do. On an open country road the chances of the car infront of you having to suddenly emergency brake is fairly low (much more likely in the city).
Oh and the overtake at 0:20 might be a bit risky. Overtaking through a tunnel with a small merging road right after it on the right. Farm tractors like to pull out of those at the worst possible times. Doing the overtake right after the bridge might be better. But I can't be sure as I am sure you know that road a lot better. Just what I can tell from the video.
Very well written. Unfortunately there are too many idiots on the road.A few days ago I tried to overtake a car driving 30km/h under the limit and the driver started to accelerate with me.There were a large truck coming,so I had to slow down and back behind his car.Then the strange driver slowed too.No cure for some people,but why doing shit on the road. In my opinion this is a kill atempt if I can't get back to the lane with the truck coming towards me.
2:03 Overtaking having just passed advanced warning sign for nearside junction . 6:31 sun glare too difficult to see advanced warning sign for offside junction but clearly you were starting to move back to the nearside overtake as you approached the mouth of the offside junction. A vehicle exiting that junction without looking would likely have come into conflict with your vehicle. With safety being the primary consideration, then restraint until after the junctions was required. SLAP: Is it Safe? Is is Legal? Is it Advantageous? Will there be a negative Perception by others?
You must never overtake when that might happen - so if your view is obstructed or there is a junction on the right you must wait until you find a safer opportunity.
if can say any best driving class could exist on Earth that would be this one I really really proud of your work thanks my GOD to show this I have learnt so many things in it
Hello! I love watching your videos, I was wondering if you can give me some tips on how or what should i do to determine that i'm staying within my lane. Sometimes I get paranoid that I'm also occupying the incoming lane, or I'm too close to the gutters while driving. Thank you very much! hoping you could help me out.
+Kashvern This is a common problem for new drivers. A good reference point for judging our road position in most cars is to line up the centre of the road with the bottom right corner of the windscreen, but this will vary slightly with roads of different widths. We have also stuck small 'blind spot' mirrors onto our car's door mirrors, and angled them to keep the rear wheels in view - so we can check our road position on both sides of the car. Just keep practicing - eventually you won't even have to think about it!
Advance Driving School Thank yoh for that speedy and helpful tips! I hope in the future you can make a beginners tip with regards to this matter. It would reaaally help out alot of beginner/aspiring drivers like me in the future. Thank you! Don't stop making videos, it's really awesome at the same time it's really helpful!
Thank you very much for the content that you are providing to us learner drivers. I manage to pass 2nd time with 5 minors! Just a question, what device do you use to project the current car speed on the windscreen?
@@AdvanceDrivingSchool Thank you! Sorry for spamming your other videos with this question. I have learnt in my instructor's car with a digital speedometer and I am having a hard time adjusting to old needle-style speedometer in my old car.
When to return back to lane? I often drive and accelerate for few seconds in the other lane in order to build up some distance from the car behind before returning to my lane. I wonder what's the correct way of returning back.
Hi.I have one enquiry for my recent driving on M42(S): as road work50mph end into national speed70mph, I was on left lane but the car in the middle lane didn't realise it's 70mph and keep driving at 50mph, my lane ahead is clear, can speed up in my lane then passing the middle lane car? Or what should I do? Many thanks.
The safest thing to do would be to change lanes and overtake them on the right as normal. The only time we would pass them on the left is at low speed (such as a traffic queue) as there is less risk at that speed.
@AdvanceDrivingSchool If its a 2 lane dual carriageway can you undertake the lane hogger if they aren't moving back to the driving lane and the driving lane is completely empty and safe for the overtake.
@@abdulwaasaayarjumand794 - Nope....If you do and the police notice CCTV, dashcam footage submitted by another driver or they move to the left any collision will be your responsibility. You could end being charged with Careless and Inconsiderate Driving or Dangerous Driving. If someone were to be killed the charges will be even more serious. It's never worth it. Treat everyone else on the road as an idiot waiting to happen, be chilled and just get where you need to be safely. Learn to become a progressive driver in a much safer way with advanced driver training. Joining RoSPA or the IAM to learn the skills is inexpensive.
Could you be given a serious fault for not overtaking a slow moving vehicle (particularly agricultural vehicles)? Two scenarios spring to mind: simply not overtaking and trundling along, or not overtaking resulting in a car behind overtaking you and the slow moving vehicle, which is dangerous for them.
We should ‘make progress’ when it is safe to do so, so if it is safe to overtake a very slow vehicle we should. What other traffic does is up to them, so we must always check our mirrors before committing to an overtake.
I hate it when other drivers try to tell me what to do - as I want to make my own decisions. Never indicate to tell others when to overtake, as it might confuse them or others nearby. Instead, just continue driving normally and let them decide what to do. This also applies to flashing at crossroads or when meeting incoming traffic - even if you are trying to help others it might cause danger.
Are you allowed to go over the speed limit if its necessary during the overtake for whatever reason. As especially with cyclists I feel a lot more comfortable passing them as quickly as possible.
No, we are not legally allowed to break the speed limit when overtaking. If we are driving that close to the limit that we need to exceed it on our overtake, we probably don't need to overtake in the first place!
Thanks for the compliment - however it is against UA-cam’s terms and conditions to re-upload content from other channels, so please don’t do this as you might be given a penalty strike against your channel. Good luck making your own videos 👍🏼
Only if you can see yourself that there is time to complete the overtake safely. Don't blindly follow the car in front, as that could easily put you in danger!
why oh why do drivers speed up as you are overtaking them. and why do drivers stop on the near side of the road to turn right, stop on the crown next to the white line in the centre if safe to do so? then very often we other drivers can carry on. thank you.
@@AdvanceDrivingSchool this maybe non related question but see if you can help, are you able to use a pop tent to change clothes in or use a camping potty in if you've completely hidden in the tent on a public road or street? Thanks
When there is oncoming traffic but the oncoming car is far away can we overtake?If we can, how far should the oncoming car be so that we can safely overtake?
Possibly. But we must consider more than just the distance of oncoming traffic - the speed of all the vehicles involved is important. To complete an overtake safely we must have enough time to ensure we don’t cause anyone else to take action to avoid us. If there is any doubt then we should wait for a better opportunity.
@@AdvanceDrivingSchool thanks for the reply, was curious since there is a road like this near to me and it is common practice that cars in each lane keep over to the left leaving room in the middle for cars to overtake. Do you know the legalities behind this, would someone get accused of dangerous driving if caught?
Feel free to read the Highway Code, rules 162 to 169. It is open to interpretation, depending on the situation - you must decide what is the safest thing to do, as if something goes wrong you might get hurt or find yourself in trouble.
@@AdvanceDrivingSchool 1. Sudden Shadow / Sunlight change impairs vision 2. On cold days, bridges and other areas protected from the sun can still be icy 3. Bridges adjacent to fields can obstruct field exits, which are often used as convenient parking spots on country roads What can I see? What can't I see? What can I reasonably expect to happen? Restraint where there is any doubt is key.
+Pahari CHORU That depends on the car's engine type and current speed. In a petrol car choose a gear that gives about 3000 rpm, or for a diesel car 2500 rpm - this should give good acceleration for long enough to complete the overtake.
Advance Driving School i mean if I m driving slow and any car which is behind me if its over taking me than how I know the car which is behind its coming forward?
If you are the car being overtaken, just concentrate on your driving and don't worry about cars behind you too much. If they get close behind you it can be distracting - but to reduce the chance of them rear-ending you if you brake suddenly, drive as smoothly as possible and plan ahead so that you aren't forced to brake hard. Once they have passed you just continue on your way.
If they will overtake you you should be able to see them signalling before doing so. In the case you're being overtaken, I think one thing the channel forgot to explain to you is that you should not accelerate while being overtaken, nor deccelerate UNLESS in some cases in which the overtaker has to get back to the initial lane quickly and he's almost infront of you.
It is rarely necessary to overtake something - but sometimes you will catch up a really slow vehicle (such as a tractor) where you will need to overtake, so we thought it would be good to show you how to do it safely 👍🏼
In the first overtakes the driver accelerated to pass the car being overtaken and then whilst still in the overtake position and on the wrong side of the road and about to return to his own side of the road he actually changed gear. That is not an accepted practise as one should always select the appropriate gear first for the speed required and remain in that gear throughout the overtake. That's all part if I.P.S.G.A. training for advanced driving and riding.
There is nothing wrong with changing gear during an overtake if necessary. If you want to stay in one gear during the whole manoeuvre you might need to select a higher gear to avoid running into the engines rev-limiter - which would reduce initial acceleration. We would rather select the gear that gives the best acceleration, even if it means we need to change up a gear later on. Since overtakes should only be done on straight roads there should be no problem with car control when changing gear. Sometimes I have sufficient speed to complete the overtake, so then change to a higher gear to conserve fuel - rather than stay in the lower gear with excessive engine revs for longer than necessary. You are free to follow the guidelines that other organisations suggest but they are advice only - not a rule that must be obeyed.
Having the narrator state it is perfectly fine to overtake while the video shows the driver on solid white lines is a source of confusion and poor editing.
If you aren't sure that the overtake is completely safe, then don't do it. Never feel that you have to take a risk to overtake - even if other traffic is very slow. Keeping safe is the most important thing.
Who drives 2s outside the city where i live? Im driving at 90 km/h and everyone else drives 120 outside the city. And these people literally are 1 human width behind me. If i decide to brake suddenly they won't have the time to react. Nobody is obeying the law. Also when i stop at a stop sign people are getting mad at me.
Project X Gaming I don’t know where you live but in the UK the law only says that you “should” keep a safe stopping distance. Rule 126 of the Highway Code. It’s frustrating when people expect us to break the law and ignore Stop signs but that’s out of our control. It’s just a harsh truth that we have to accept.
Still doing good I need to keep straight in left not go into middle bad habbit swerving a bit but i dont do anything dangerous overall teacher said to keep revising I was going to overtake a bus driver he had signal on but it was to busy in front so I didn't end up overtaking .I did ok 2nd one I was doing pull up on right I should have gone bus driver had signal on and I was on break something like that teacher said it's just little thing's but can add up so I'll continue watching so this will help wonders I'll keep it all up untill I pass
Of course this video was just for practice, with our other car driving slowly on purpose. We agree that drivers driving unnecessarily slowly can be annoying, but we still need to know how to overtake safely for when we find slower traffic like tractors or cyclists on the road.
What causes a lot of near misses and accidents is cyclists. Quite often, some cyclists will ride in the middle of the road and this forces drivers to overtake, on the other side of the road there is nearly head on collisions.
Cyclists are allowed to ride in the middle of their lane, to avoid hitting potholes or puddles that might make them crash. If this means we need to be patient to find a safe place to pass them, then so be it. Like any other overtake, we can only do it if we are sure that we have enough space to complete the manoeuvre without forcing other drivers to avoid us.
How would the cyclist be responsible? If you're overtaking a cyclist you have a better view ahead than overtaking a car or lorry. With that logic then you can say the vehicle being overtaking causes a lot of misses and accidents. I am not a cyclist, but a car/van driver.
If you do that you will get too close to the car in front, and block your view just before changing lanes - potentially putting you in danger. We think it is far safer to move out first, keeping your view of the road ahead clear.
@@AdvanceDrivingSchool fair point, it depends on the road conditions and the car. For example I have a cheap car that won't accelerate that fast, so I need to really be careful when overtaking
Very very good instructions. Sadly Americans will not follow them because we get crazy anal stupid about going a single mile an hour over the speed limit while passing so in the states people want to pass yet never break the speed limit so Americans will "not accelerate" while passing so there's never room to pass a 30 mile an hour car in a 40 Zone if we are only going 40 when passing. Americans think the speed limit is scientifically derived and your car will just wipe out, just magically Wipeout if you exceed the speed limit.
The 1/3 rule is often taught in Advanced courses: You should be able to return to the nearside in 1/3 of the distance you can see to be clear for the overtake, to allow for the next MotoGP prodigy coming into view at 120mph just after you commit!
Does the indicator rule also apply for BMW’s?
Mateen Abdul it applies for ALL cars,
😏nope, it doesn't, you just accelerate n overtake; you also don't need to check mirrors.
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What type of question is this ?
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This video is very high-quality and its core knowledge is easily transferable across countries
Thanks for your insightfully explained tutorial! By means of these rules, I’m going to be able to cross safely the other side of the lane and overtake without being involved in an accident and not colliding with the oncoming traffic determinedly.
Thanks for video. But still I am making mistakes like misjudging speed, overtaking in curve especially overtaking long vehicles in single way. How to avoid these situations
So looks like there is no need to signal again when returning back to the lane after passing, correct?
+Dominic Fong Yes, there is no need for that signal as other drivers would naturally expect us to return to our lane after the overtake.
If, close to the completion of the manoever, I see an oncoming car approaching at a distance, I usually indicate to show I am imminently moving out of their way. Can't do any harm I suppose, and may give comfort to the oncoming driver! Useful? or not? @@AdvanceDrivingSchool
@@JamesEncliffe We would prefer to concentrate on getting back into our lane safely, as doing anything unnecessary might distract us and cause a problem.
@@AdvanceDrivingSchool Is it a matter of preference, though?
You need to indicate if you're returning to your lane between two cars
Again excellent video ✌🏼MSM.. NEVER DO IT ON BENDS OR BLIND BENDS AND LOOK OUT FOR SIGNS BEFORE HAND!
A sweeping right hander with good visibility and observations often presents the best opportunity for a safe overtake.
You're the best!!!! Your videos are very very informative and they have helped me a lot. Keep up the good work 👍🏼
You’re advocating overtaking from further back. I was taught to match the speed of the vehicle infront from a safe stopping distance, then close the space to create a better view of the road ahead etc (around 1/4 of the previous distance) and then mirror, signal, shoulder check, move out, decide if the overtake is still possible without changing speed, overtake, other mirror, shoulder check, return to lane.
We should never get closer than 2 seconds to the car in front - as they could brake hard at any moment. Driving closer to the car in front only restricts your view - so once we know it is safe to move to the other lane, move out for a better view than accelerate.
Advance Driving School There’s an interesting contradiction here. I agree with you that reducing the distance can be unsafe and I agree that this is unwise to do but I should mention that for experienced drivers, IAM/Roadsmart, RoSPA and HPC all teach closing the gap in the way I described and under most conditions consider not doing so, to not be their model of training. So if I did this, i’d fail an L test and pass IAM,RoSPA & HPC and if I didn’t, most overtakes would not be possible, even though it’s safe to do when done correctly. My tests are up for renewal soon and i’m wondering how i’ll do this time around.
Yes, it's interesting how teaching methods vary - this is probably due to who they are intended for. Training aimed at inexperienced drivers (which this channel is mainly) will usually try to minimise danger by using a simple method that doesn't need a lot of judgement - but training for more experienced drivers won't be so rigid as the driver has more ability to make quicker decisions. Just do whatever you feel is safest on your tests - good luck!
@@AdvanceDrivingSchool - As former emergency service response, RoPSA Gold and IAM First, like you I don't agree with the reduced following position in any circumstances. It threatens other drivers who may use accelerator retardation, engine braking, brake checking or fog lights to make the driver behind drop back.
When driving on blue/sirens folk brake suddenly at inappropriate places as an automatic response to not delaying an emergency vehicle. Driving on blues/sirens requires giving folk more opportunity to see you (positioning) and time to react , with the expectation that their reactions will be sudden and possibly unsafe. Close following positions prior to a response overtake compounds the risk.
Once your observations make the overtake appear safe in front and behind (other overtaking vehicles), pull to the offside, maintain the distance, final check for safety and GO.
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If people would drive at a sensible speed for the road and conditions, it should seldom be necessary to overtake at all. Drivers crawling along at a speed well below normal, often with a trail of cars behind and usually too close to each other, are a menace. They cause frustration for others and that makes for danger. It is strange that there is such a fuss made about going too fast, but no-one does anything about those who drive ridiculously slowly. I consider those the bigger risk to other drivers.
But first off people don't drive the limit.
in fact one of the biggest problems on the road is ignorance of the facts of speedometer error.
if your speedometer is off by 5 miles an hour one direction and my speedometer is off by 5 miles an hour in the other and we are both trying to obey the speed limit, we can easly be traveling 10 miles an hour different speed from each other so stop assuming that they are speeding or driving to slow.
Get out of the way and stop blaming everything on what you think other people are doing wrong.
what you wish people would do may be what they are doing.
it's obvious that you're one of these people that has some problem with passing, think people should not pass according to your comment it sounds like you think it would be safer with everybody traveled the same speed next to each other?
Always travel faster than traffic to your right and slower than traffic to your left.
( in a left-hand-drive car) and of course the opposite in right hand drive countries.
I am a new driver, I still find it difficult to over take 😅
Starting the maneuver 2 seconds behind...what the hell do you think I drive? A Ferrari?? ;)
For lower horsepower cars, building up some speed on your lane (what I call "ramming the car infront") is essential. Timing is everything!
You start well behind (which gives you better visibility past the car in front), build speed (correct gear with plenty of revs left to complete the pass), decision point go/no go.
Never "ram" the guy in front so close that you can't brake in time should you have to abort the overtake and you rear end the guy you are overtaking.
ALWAYS quickly glance at the mirror if somebody is already overtaking you from behind before changing lanes.
Also on the "not intimidating the driver in front"...Yes and no. Yes you should never tailgate the vehicle in front for miles where you can't even safely pass like you are drafting for the win in a NASCAR race or something. That is just rude.
But at least in my experience, displaying at least some "aggressive behavior" (like coming up behind him at a fast rate of speed (but not tailgating), or positioning for a better overtaking look), that lets the driver in front know (at least if he's doing his job properly-checking the mirrors often) that you are going to overtake eventually and they can prepare for it mentally beforehand.
This is at least my opinion. I hate it when (happens a lot with higher hp cars overtaking me), when they drive casually calmly behind me. They display none of the "aggressive behaviors" (with higher Hp they can afford to), I register them in my mirror as just somebody normally following me so I put them "out of mind". Then boom, without warning all of a sudden in less than a second they are door to door with me.
Also when you have room to do so, don't cut right back in to your lane after you are done with the overtake. That really helps lessen the "intimidation" factor for the other driver. A good rule is, only start moving back to your lane when you can already see the front headlight of the overtaken car in your side mirrors. A quick glance will do, don't stare at your side mirror throughout the duration of the most dangerous maneuver you can do on the road, the overtake.
For the person being overtaken, for Gods sake, maintain your speed, don't accelerate, don't brake, unless it's a real close emergency and you are saving the other guys life from his failed overtaking attempt.
Be as predictable as you can be to the driver overtaking you.
Our car only has 90bhp, so it’s just a normal car. We don’t recommend any kind of aggressive behaviour behind other cars, as it can intimidate nervous drivers. Never get closer than 2 seconds behind the car in front, in case they need to brake suddenly.
My fist car had 55hp, hence the above technique. :)
Idk, so much about driving is communicating your intent to the other drivers. And in the case of an overtake I personally would rather know about it beforehand, reading their "body language"... ok be ready they will most likely pass you on the next straight.
I'd rather risk causing some stress to the few nervous drivers, if it means communicating clearly my intent to all the other drivers. How many "nervous drivers" are there ?
Things like positioning yourself closer to the center dividing line before the overtake, communicates to the guy in front you are about to pass (if he's paying attention) and also to the guy behind you that he should not attempt a pass as you are already getting ready to execute yours.
Oh and yes before the overtake you should not tailgate so close, like you're and Audi driver on the highway (2 sec is a good rule), however in the case of an overtake, I'd rather risk the chance of driving in the back of someone, rather than not making the pass and finding myself in a head on collision. It's a risk trade off you do. On an open country road the chances of the car infront of you having to suddenly emergency brake is fairly low (much more likely in the city).
Oh and the overtake at 0:20 might be a bit risky. Overtaking through a tunnel with a small merging road right after it on the right. Farm tractors like to pull out of those at the worst possible times. Doing the overtake right after the bridge might be better. But I can't be sure as I am sure you know that road a lot better. Just what I can tell from the video.
Very well written.
Unfortunately there are too many idiots on the road.A few days ago I tried to overtake a car driving 30km/h under the limit and the driver started to accelerate with me.There were a large truck coming,so I had to slow down and back behind his car.Then the strange driver slowed too.No cure for some people,but why doing shit on the road. In my opinion this is a kill atempt if I can't get back to the lane with the truck coming towards me.
2:03 Overtaking having just passed advanced warning sign for nearside junction . 6:31 sun glare too difficult to see advanced warning sign for offside junction but clearly you were starting to move back to the nearside overtake as you approached the mouth of the offside junction. A vehicle exiting that junction without looking would likely have come into conflict with your vehicle. With safety being the primary consideration, then restraint until after the junctions was required.
SLAP:
Is it Safe?
Is is Legal?
Is it Advantageous?
Will there be a negative Perception by others?
what if when we overtaking a suddenly a vehicle come from the right hand side( to infront)
You must never overtake when that might happen - so if your view is obstructed or there is a junction on the right you must wait until you find a safer opportunity.
@@AdvanceDrivingSchool - in which case your critique of 2:03 and 6:31?
if can say any best driving class could exist on Earth that would be this one I really really proud of your work thanks my GOD to show this I have learnt so many things in it
Hello!
I love watching your videos, I was wondering if you can give me some tips on how or what should i do to determine that i'm staying within my lane. Sometimes I get paranoid that I'm also occupying the incoming lane, or I'm too close to the gutters while driving.
Thank you very much! hoping you could help me out.
+Kashvern This is a common problem for new drivers. A good reference point for judging our road position in most cars is to line up the centre of the road with the bottom right corner of the windscreen, but this will vary slightly with roads of different widths. We have also stuck small 'blind spot' mirrors onto our car's door mirrors, and angled them to keep the rear wheels in view - so we can check our road position on both sides of the car. Just keep practicing - eventually you won't even have to think about it!
Advance Driving School Thank yoh for that speedy and helpful tips! I hope in the future you can make a beginners tip with regards to this matter. It would reaaally help out alot of beginner/aspiring drivers like me in the future. Thank you!
Don't stop making videos, it's really awesome at the same time it's really helpful!
Thank you very much for the content that you are providing to us learner drivers. I manage to pass 2nd time with 5 minors!
Just a question, what device do you use to project the current car speed on the windscreen?
Well done! 🚙👌🏼😃
It’s a head-up display that plugs into the cars on-board diagnostics port. Just search for ‘OBD HUD’ online 👍🏼
@@AdvanceDrivingSchool Thank you! Sorry for spamming your other videos with this question. I have learnt in my instructor's car with a digital speedometer and I am having a hard time adjusting to old needle-style speedometer in my old car.
When to return back to lane?
I often drive and accelerate for few seconds in the other lane in order to build up some distance from the car behind before returning to my lane.
I wonder what's the correct way of returning back.
We wait until the other vehicle appears in our centre mirror before moving back to our lane, to ensure we give them a safe gap. 👍🏼
Hi.I have one enquiry for my recent driving on M42(S): as road work50mph end into national speed70mph, I was on left lane but the car in the middle lane didn't realise it's 70mph and keep driving at 50mph, my lane ahead is clear, can speed up in my lane then passing the middle lane car? Or what should I do? Many thanks.
The safest thing to do would be to change lanes and overtake them on the right as normal. The only time we would pass them on the left is at low speed (such as a traffic queue) as there is less risk at that speed.
@AdvanceDrivingSchool If its a 2 lane dual carriageway can you undertake the lane hogger if they aren't moving back to the driving lane and the driving lane is completely empty and safe for the overtake.
@@abdulwaasaayarjumand794 - Nope....If you do and the police notice CCTV, dashcam footage submitted by another driver or they move to the left any collision will be your responsibility. You could end being charged with Careless and Inconsiderate Driving or Dangerous Driving. If someone were to be killed the charges will be even more serious.
It's never worth it. Treat everyone else on the road as an idiot waiting to happen, be chilled and just get where you need to be safely. Learn to become a progressive driver in a much safer way with advanced driver training. Joining RoSPA or the IAM to learn the skills is inexpensive.
2:00 What about checking your mirror
We go through the process in more detail later in the video, and mention a mirror check at around 4:00 👍🏼
Thanks for the video.
Thank you very much your video help me drive a lot safer :)
I really love watching ads channels very useful tips for new learner driver thanks a lots from mauritius
Is 3rd gear the best gear to overtake?
That depends on the speed you are going. We would probably use 2nd at lower speeds, and 3rd when driving faster.
thank you. for explanation. one question when overtaking cyclist do you have to signal as am confused. some say yes .some says no
We should indicate if it would help others understand what we are doing. 👍🏼
We should indicate if it would help others understand what we are doing. 👍🏼
thank you for quick answe
do a video on centre lane drivers on motorways ,it is illegal to travel in centre lanes other than to overtaking the left lane must be used for travel
Driving on a Motorway: ua-cam.com/video/j7AAw_HHHvY/v-deo.html 👍🏼
Thanks a lot for your support
thanks im trying to get my license and had no idea what overtaking was!!! kept failing on the preparation app!!
Could you be given a serious fault for not overtaking a slow moving vehicle (particularly agricultural vehicles)? Two scenarios spring to mind: simply not overtaking and trundling along, or not overtaking resulting in a car behind overtaking you and the slow moving vehicle, which is dangerous for them.
We should ‘make progress’ when it is safe to do so, so if it is safe to overtake a very slow vehicle we should. What other traffic does is up to them, so we must always check our mirrors before committing to an overtake.
How to let other overtake you? Which indicator to use left or right to give them pass signal? Thank you...😀
I hate it when other drivers try to tell me what to do - as I want to make my own decisions. Never indicate to tell others when to overtake, as it might confuse them or others nearby. Instead, just continue driving normally and let them decide what to do. This also applies to flashing at crossroads or when meeting incoming traffic - even if you are trying to help others it might cause danger.
@@AdvanceDrivingSchool thank you for quick reply. Love this channel😁👍 learnt lot from this channel.
If you live in the middle of Australia, this is definitely possible due to the low traffic
After completing overtaking which mirror we want to check is it IRVM or ORVM?
We wait until the other vehicle appears in our centre mirror before returning to the left lane. Once that is completed just drive normally.
Are you allowed to go over the speed limit if its necessary during the overtake for whatever reason. As especially with cyclists I feel a lot more comfortable passing them as quickly as possible.
No, we are not legally allowed to break the speed limit when overtaking. If we are driving that close to the limit that we need to exceed it on our overtake, we probably don't need to overtake in the first place!
@@AdvanceDrivingSchool that is very true
You’re meant to slowly overtake cyclists giving them space lol, not floor it.
Jesus, I have to laugh at some of the questions on here... What direction do i turn my steering wheel to turn right? 😂😂😂
Is there gear up shift issue while overtaking with amt cars.
Ideally, we try to avoid changing gear (in a manual car) whilst overtaking, as it will delay our acceleration for a moment.
@@AdvanceDrivingSchool Suppose we're on a hill behind a heavy truck moving in 1st gear, how to overtake ?
Thanks .very useful me,
Enjoyed the Video👌
A bit on lane markings would have been very useful.
We made a separate video about road markings: ua-cam.com/video/84NkaNkZOrI/v-deo.html 👍🏼
@@AdvanceDrivingSchool Thank you!
I subscribed you!
Brilliant. May I use this for my channel and my students?
Thanks for the compliment - however it is against UA-cam’s terms and conditions to re-upload content from other channels, so please don’t do this as you might be given a penalty strike against your channel. Good luck making your own videos 👍🏼
Very helpful video thank you
is it safe to follow a vehicle which is overtaking another vehicle
Only if you can see yourself that there is time to complete the overtake safely. Don't blindly follow the car in front, as that could easily put you in danger!
why oh why do drivers speed up as you are overtaking them. and why do drivers stop on the near side of the road to turn right, stop on the crown next to the white line in the centre if safe to do so? then very often we other drivers can carry on. thank you.
Very informative.
Is it allowed to overtake a driver traveling at the legal speed limit on the road for e.g. the car in front is doing 30mph on a 30mph road?
You would have to break the speed limit to do that - so it would be unnecessary and illegal!
@@AdvanceDrivingSchool excellent thank you for your help and reply
@@AdvanceDrivingSchool this maybe non related question but see if you can help, are you able to use a pop tent to change clothes in or use a camping potty in if you've completely hidden in the tent on a public road or street? Thanks
And would I fail for not waiting for bus driver's ? if I don't overtake but what's best way to deal with them?
Pass the bus if it’s safe, or wait if it’s not. Every situation is different, and you must decide what the safest thing to do 👍🏼
When there is oncoming traffic but the oncoming car is far away can we overtake?If we can, how far should the oncoming car be so that we can safely overtake?
Possibly. But we must consider more than just the distance of oncoming traffic - the speed of all the vehicles involved is important. To complete an overtake safely we must have enough time to ensure we don’t cause anyone else to take action to avoid us. If there is any doubt then we should wait for a better opportunity.
Awesome
Is it legal to overtake when you’re on a very wide single carriageway road with oncoming traffic? Great video btw keep it up!
We would not recommend doing that as it might scare oncoming drivers and lead to danger.
@@AdvanceDrivingSchool thanks for the reply, was curious since there is a road like this near to me and it is common practice that cars in each lane keep over to the left leaving room in the middle for cars to overtake. Do you know the legalities behind this, would someone get accused of dangerous driving if caught?
Feel free to read the Highway Code, rules 162 to 169. It is open to interpretation, depending on the situation - you must decide what is the safest thing to do, as if something goes wrong you might get hurt or find yourself in trouble.
Is overtaking under a bridge Legal ? Because in the clip you overtake under a bridge
Yes - what difference does the bridge make?
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1. Sudden Shadow / Sunlight change impairs vision
2. On cold days, bridges and other areas protected from the sun can still be icy
3. Bridges adjacent to fields can obstruct field exits, which are often used as convenient parking spots on country roads
What can I see? What can't I see? What can I reasonably expect to happen?
Restraint where there is any doubt is key.
So this is basically a variant of the MSPSL routine…?
That’s right
should we downshift or accelerate in the same gear while overtaking ?
+Pahari CHORU That depends on the car's engine type and current speed. In a petrol car choose a gear that gives about 3000 rpm, or for a diesel car 2500 rpm - this should give good acceleration for long enough to complete the overtake.
Pahari CHORU or just downshift because it sounds cooler and its a way better feeling(only if you are into cars tho)
S&M Teen Racing Team od you think having a cooler engine sound keep you safe?
If any car taking over take than how I know this car going to take over take..?
I'm sorry but we don't understand your question. Could you rephrase it please?
Advance Driving School i mean if I m driving slow and any car which is behind me if its over taking me than how I know the car which is behind its coming forward?
If you are the car being overtaken, just concentrate on your driving and don't worry about cars behind you too much. If they get close behind you it can be distracting - but to reduce the chance of them rear-ending you if you brake suddenly, drive as smoothly as possible and plan ahead so that you aren't forced to brake hard. Once they have passed you just continue on your way.
If they will overtake you you should be able to see them signalling before doing so. In the case you're being overtaken, I think one thing the channel forgot to explain to you is that you should not accelerate while being overtaken, nor deccelerate UNLESS in some cases in which the overtaker has to get back to the initial lane quickly and he's almost infront of you.
You check in the mirror or rear window for a sec
Thanks
You forgot to mention Blind Spot checking which is very important while overtaking.
We did mention it in this video: Changing Lanes Safely | Learn to drive: Basic skills ua-cam.com/video/eRTAxottBkY/v-deo.html
Nonsense, it was said
Advanced driving school....! What's the speed limit on that road? surely no more than 40mph. 04:19. Going at nearly 60mph....😂
The national speed limit applies on that road - so that's 60mph for a car.
@@AdvanceDrivingSchool Thank you for the clarification.
I'm driving for 10 years and I still hate overtaking. I need a lambo lol
Hii
I would overtake on a straight road, that might be a bit easier for me
I am scare to take overtaking is it necessary to take over taking
It is rarely necessary to overtake something - but sometimes you will catch up a really slow vehicle (such as a tractor) where you will need to overtake, so we thought it would be good to show you how to do it safely 👍🏼
Advance Driving School i have a very strict teacher she shout alot its very stressful for me and using his mobile too what can I do??
That doesn't sound like a very nice learning environment. Maybe consider getting a new instructor?
khizran shah For example if there is a tractor ahead, it’s probably best to overtake when it is safe to do so to avoid holding cars behind up
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In the first overtakes the driver accelerated to pass the car being overtaken and then whilst still in the overtake position and on the wrong side of the road and about to return to his own side of the road he actually changed gear. That is not an accepted practise as one should always select the appropriate gear first for the speed required and remain in that gear throughout the overtake. That's all part if I.P.S.G.A. training for advanced driving and riding.
There is nothing wrong with changing gear during an overtake if necessary. If you want to stay in one gear during the whole manoeuvre you might need to select a higher gear to avoid running into the engines rev-limiter - which would reduce initial acceleration. We would rather select the gear that gives the best acceleration, even if it means we need to change up a gear later on. Since overtakes should only be done on straight roads there should be no problem with car control when changing gear. Sometimes I have sufficient speed to complete the overtake, so then change to a higher gear to conserve fuel - rather than stay in the lower gear with excessive engine revs for longer than necessary. You are free to follow the guidelines that other organisations suggest but they are advice only - not a rule that must be obeyed.
Having the narrator state it is perfectly fine to overtake while the video shows the driver on solid white lines is a source of confusion and poor editing.
Is it bad if you get the cars slip stream and overtake close to their ass
It’s great if you are playing Gran Turismo - but not so much in real life 😉
Some people don’t overtake at all so you have to overtake two cars which makes it even more dangerous.
If you aren't sure that the overtake is completely safe, then don't do it. Never feel that you have to take a risk to overtake - even if other traffic is very slow. Keeping safe is the most important thing.
Who drives 2s outside the city where i live? Im driving at 90 km/h and everyone else drives 120 outside the city. And these people literally are 1 human width behind me. If i decide to brake suddenly they won't have the time to react. Nobody is obeying the law. Also when i stop at a stop sign people are getting mad at me.
Project X Gaming I don’t know where you live but in the UK the law only says that you “should” keep a safe stopping distance. Rule 126 of the Highway Code.
It’s frustrating when people expect us to break the law and ignore Stop signs but that’s out of our control. It’s just a harsh truth that we have to accept.
Still doing good I need to keep straight in left not go into middle bad habbit swerving a bit but i dont do anything dangerous overall teacher said to keep revising I was going to overtake a bus driver he had signal on but it was to busy in front so I didn't end up overtaking .I did ok 2nd one I was doing pull up on right I should have gone bus driver had signal on and I was on break something like that teacher said it's just little thing's but can add up so I'll continue watching so this will help wonders I'll keep it all up untill I pass
We would pass a bus if safe to do so - but as soon as it indicates right to say it is ready to go, we would stop and let it go.
@@AdvanceDrivingSchool thank you
nice clip, try the same with the driver giving the commentary
Of course, you could avoid overtaking entirely if there weren't someone ahead doing 41 in 60 zone 😡
Of course this video was just for practice, with our other car driving slowly on purpose. We agree that drivers driving unnecessarily slowly can be annoying, but we still need to know how to overtake safely for when we find slower traffic like tractors or cyclists on the road.
@@AdvanceDrivingSchool I know it's just for practice. However, driving 20 below the limit for no discernable reason appears to be the norm nowadays.
@@tg92277 if only!
What causes a lot of near misses and accidents is cyclists. Quite often, some cyclists will ride in the middle of the road and this forces drivers to overtake, on the other side of the road there is nearly head on collisions.
Cyclists are allowed to ride in the middle of their lane, to avoid hitting potholes or puddles that might make them crash. If this means we need to be patient to find a safe place to pass them, then so be it. Like any other overtake, we can only do it if we are sure that we have enough space to complete the manoeuvre without forcing other drivers to avoid us.
How would the cyclist be responsible? If you're overtaking a cyclist you have a better view ahead than overtaking a car or lorry. With that logic then you can say the vehicle being overtaking causes a lot of misses and accidents. I am not a cyclist, but a car/van driver.
My fiat punto can’t do this😂
Well if I see an knob overtaking on a single carriageway illegally in the US. They are doing it wrong
It's not illegal to overtake on a single carriageway unless it says No Overtaking
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you should accelerate on your own lane then change
If you do that you will get too close to the car in front, and block your view just before changing lanes - potentially putting you in danger. We think it is far safer to move out first, keeping your view of the road ahead clear.
@@AdvanceDrivingSchool fair point, it depends on the road conditions and the car. For example I have a cheap car that won't accelerate that fast, so I need to really be careful when overtaking
@@laineotto1376 Exactly - just wait for a larger gap if your car is slower to accelerate.
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In summary, drop a gear and disappear.
Very very good instructions.
Sadly Americans will not follow them because we get crazy anal stupid about going a single mile an hour over the speed limit while passing
so in the states people want to pass yet never break the speed limit so Americans will "not accelerate" while passing so there's never room to pass a 30 mile an hour car in a 40 Zone if we are only going 40 when passing.
Americans think the speed limit is scientifically derived and your car will just wipe out, just magically Wipeout if you exceed the speed limit.
here to train an AI
These are not expert skills.
EU driving looks scary.
Really? I guess we’re used to it! How does it compare to where you live?
00MrPanda00 come to India. You will get the scare of your life lol.
@@AdvanceDrivingSchool Sadly no more EU driving for us
Bad, do not accelerate while applying steering
Thanks