LEGALLY fly Above 400 feet with your Drone | FAA Exemption
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- Can you legally fly a drone above 400 feet AGL?
There's a little known FAA exemption that allows you to do just that.
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In the military we called those kind of people (Barracks Lawyers). Nice video Ken. Thanks.
Exactly Ken, the Tower of the Americas, at the south end of San Antonio, is 750’ tall with a revolving restaurant, was built for the 1968 Hemisfair, and it is in “G” Airspsace, so no LAANC approval is required for fly up to 1150 feet for Part 107 Pilots. Looking forward to seeing you again at SpinUp.
There is another "yah-but" to think about. If you launch from a cliff, the AGL limit is in contour to the floor. So, you are supposed to fly so that you fly with the contour (keeping within a 400' layer AGL). I know this is a strange concept to you folks who live in flatville, but it is something we here in the bumpy west know about. Be well!
You're right but it's fun to think about the situation. If you are adjacent to a 500 ft drop off, the minute you go over the edge you're in violation. If you start from the bottom and fly up you can never get over the edge because it's more than 400 ft...
@@jerseyshoredroneservices225 the contour rule gives you a 400 ' blanket. So you're not out of compliance right at the drop off. You have 400' to start matching the AGL
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You could be right about that. I think though that the rule for 400 ft above a structure doesn't apply to terrain.
You can be 400 feet above the highest point with in your 400 feet radius. Flying off a cliff isn’t a problem unless you fly passed 400 feet.
✋ Hi Ken ✋ New drone pilot here with a Mini 2 and love your content. I have a trip coming up to Las Vegas and heard it is illegal to fly almost everywhere in Las Vegas. I'd love to hear about your insights or experiences in Sin City. Well, wait .... no, I don't need to know about all of your experiences in Sin City as that could get embarrassing. Just as it relates to drones. :)
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Probably a good idea for you to stress in the video the fact that you have an observer with you to keep you legal when you put on the FPV Goggles.
Even then, not sure if an over eager FAA minion would agree that the observer can legally be a camera man whose duties include keeping you in the frame while simultaneously maintaining VLOS on the bird.
Great video (and hair). Pointy Poindexter asked me to point out that one must keep in mind, the distance to stay away from clouds when attempting this plan. Still needing those nits! LOL
Tearing it up on that ebike at the outro
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Just love that you were able to fly that photography drone fpv!!!
Great to see the phantom getting some love !
This is the loophole I power loop through when I fly at the Viewpoint. Flying over a 🛣 in moderation (one trip in each direction is good for me) is also something that feels unnatural to me but at speed & altitude combined with feeling the wind speed, it wouldn't take much to land on either side of the road.
Fly 😃 smiling!
Waitaminuteeeeee! You can't legally fly while on Prozac!
Glad you had your visual observer with you when you went FPV to abide by 107.31 😎
The advertisement was the highlight😂
The added time and money it takes to get 107 certified seems like it would be worth it even if you just fly for fun.
It absolutely is.
Thanks for clearing that one up Ken!!!!
Is that ZOOM ZOOM I see in the background with a proper working engine? A great tutorial on the basics and we can always use refreshers on the basics! Who won the NITS challenge?
“Come down as we move away”? Wouldn’t you just have to come down after you reach 400 feet away from the radius?
I think he misspoke.
You can fly horizontally out to the 400 ft radius limit.
I remember watching this the first go around, ken't believe it's still 400ft above the rest.
Here is a good one Ken,. Hey Bubba " We know how high it is.. But how long is it "
Awesome Tutorial Video Ken!! Well Done!!
I hate how they restrict us from so many things.
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The ending scene prompted me to ask...
*Were you into BMX Freestyle in the 80's - 90's?*
If so, you belong to the cool kids club.
I'd like to introduce you to a good UA-cam friend who also has great memories to share like ours on his *Old School Stereo* themed channel.
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It helps enlighten the FPV community-based issues that need to be addressed and also helps resonate these issues throughout the general public.
You are appreciated.
Thank you very much for your wonderful comment! In fact yes, I was into BMX freestyle. Believe it or not, I still have the BMX bike I used when I was 14 years old.
@@KenHeron Funny how we can spot each other. I was in Jr. High in 91. I got a 1991 GT Pro Performer. Chrome 👌. Loved it until I donated it to my girlfriends little brother.
I recently found out it is worth about $100 more than store price my mom paid for it for my 8th. grade graduation gift 🎓 .
Good times!
you should next try doing a back flip on that bike i believe in you Ken! Appreciate your videos because when people ask me questions i dont feel like answering i point them to your videos to learn for themselves Love the Content! fly safe be safe everyone!
That's good to know Ken. Nice E bike.
Sod the drone………kennny boy what was that bike ?????……love from ENGLAND
I hang internet equipment on towers for a living.. And it'll most definitely mess with your drone signals. Internet equipment is mostly in 900mhz/2.4ghz/5.1-6.1ghz. So be careful
Thank you very much for this information, Ken!!!
Totally correct
There's 1 tower in a town where I live that if I get too close to it the drone basically loses all signal hahaha, no idea how it does that, even if I am right below the drone with the controller antennas going forward (so the signal will go up, down and to the sides)
Crazy stuff, good thing there's RTH
I know how.. Look up what we call signal jammers, you can use them inside your facility but outside it is quite illegal. Some of us use them , CDMA/GSM/GPS/DCS/PHS 😉
Hey Ken, I thought you had covered this before in one of your videos, as a matter of fact, I think you were at the same location.
Lol....I swear he had the same drone, tablet, clothes, and car in the other video as well. He's probably like me and owns only three shirts and two pairs of pants.
@@JT-bc4ix LOL
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Still blows my mind that paramotor pilots can fly to 18000 feet is class e airspace in the US. No registration or license required. Yet quadcopters, even with licensed pilots, have all these restrictions.
Yeah that's odd.
I have thought the same thing. Maybe it is because you can see a paramotor from an air craft and quadcoptors are harder to see?
Great video! I appreciate all the awesome information and entertaining as well
I see this was published in Oct 2021....but how old is it? I noticed that you are flying the P4...still????? You have so many others. Inquisitive minds.....
Nice video Ken, fully explain all the details
Nice to see you flying your phantom 4 again dude. Bet it was dusty lol
I'm looking for a similar rule for here in Canada, but I don't think we have one..... transport Canada limits us to 121meters (400 feet) agl, and that's it.
0:37 Ken, you phone doesnt seem to have enough NITS :)
Great video! 👍🏻👌🏼 Thank you for sharing 😊
Ken you make me miss my Phantom 4 Obsidian.
Still a great drone!
Ken, did you say 400 feet? I may have missed heard!😂
I'm in Canada but I'm gonna watch anyway
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I fly 1500 feet here in south Florida in my DJI
This is a nice explanation of the altitude rule. However, using fpv requires a spotter.
Yes, don't forget the spotter.
I did some inspection video of my solar panels and well yupp got to close to them and interference caused me to have no control and it crashed onto the roof that I did not want to get on top of personally,but had to in order to get my drone......lol....oops ,personal note ( do not get to close to solar panels.)
Wouldn't "a hill" itself be still "ground level" ? Therefore, if you fly over a hill, you are still limited to be 400 ft AGL? What am I missing?
You are still limited to 400' AGL over a hill, but the ground level changes while over that hill you are allowed to be 400' above that hill.
@@oh-noe Yes, 400' above ground level. The only limitation is that you must be in class G airspace. You can not do this in controlled airspace.
@@oh-noe
That's correct as long as you don't go into class C or b airspace. Class E is okay but not Bravo or Charlie.
@@oh-noe
Here's an example of a tutorial on airspace charts AKA sectional charts. I wrote another longer response but it seems to have disappeared. A Ill repeat it tomorrow if the other one doesn't come back.
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Whoa, whoa, whoa Ken….@ around 1:10 you start going over the terms of the 400’ AGL exception and three in “hill” and “topography”. I was taught only “structure” applies. In other words, a man-made structure. Does topography count ALSO?!? Because one question I never satisfactorily had answered is can a drone film and fly up and down a cliff with a drop more than 400’. Please clarify.
Very educational 💯❤️👊🙏👌
Ken, What E bike is that you are riding? Thanks for sharing this again! :)
You Rock Ken!!!
I don’t think the same applies under UK rules sadly
for us it is 150 ft above the stucture
@@12vibaba above ground level.. not structure I don't think caa website says to avoid tall structures. It sucks.
hill is ground level.
Not in my City "certain situation's" you can fly next to a building with private security will be paying you a visit.. You got the golden pass ken...
They can visit but they don't have the authority to interfere with you. They may do it anyway but that would make them the criminal. If they call the cops they're going to have to explain why they think you're committing some crime.
Another reason to get the Part 107 for sure.
Yup.
where I come 500 meters at max alt is super duper.. (of course depending location and at times just ignoring what's on the display #lol )
Is it within 400ft, that seems a little far. I thought it was 40 ft out
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Is this a reupload? I am 100% certain that I have seen this one before.
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@@KenHeron Ahh, my favorite series!
Is that same rule in UK ?
Ken i noticed that you are using Fatshark goggles with your DJI drone. I'm new to this but i like the idea because I can't see the phone screen that well in our Texas sun. What cable are you using, are you plugged into the tablet or controller and what apps are needed to do this? Thanks
You'll need a mini HDMI to mini HDMI mail on both ends and a special adapter on your Phantom controller.
Or, you can just use DJI goggles. The big white ones wirelessly..
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Thank you ken!
Thanjs for the great information
Good job sir, thank you.
I am disappointed, no scroller videos in the description.
I didn't think people still scrolled!
Didn't you make the same, or one really similar video a couple of years back?
Yes.
I have a hotel in my area that is listed at around 500’ AGL but it is near an airport with a 200’ max agl grid. I submitted an altitude waiver request with pages upon pages of material the FAA requires and after two tries, no go.
whooops.. I would of guessed that tower is about 200'
Ken - The only comment I have is what type of goggles were you using to fly your phantom and can they be used on a Mavic 2 Pro?
The question that runs through my head is do you need a 107 to fly over 400 ft over a structure hopefully you can answer this question
Yes, you must be 107 certified.
Funny as usual like the news skit and ghe bike ride lol
Is this ONLY an exception part 107 fliers can take advantage of? I thought I remember it was also available to recreational fliers similar to the nighttime flights.
Only Part 107
Too bad my drones software has built in Altitude limits..😡 400AGL max. (SJRC F11)
Am i imagining things, or have i already seen this one before??
Total deja vu.
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You LIE!!!!! I've been binge watching after getting a DJI mini 2, it's the only reason i picked up on it. Absolutely loving the channel btw.
Hey Ken...got a question. There is a building I'd like to fly that is within a 100' LAANC approval area with a possibility permission to 400'. This building is 750' tall and I can get within 400' of the building. Aside any local issues, will the FAA let me fly the building? I am Part 107 and current. I am also a Part 91 pilot but not current. I know I can't fly through this area being it's Class B airspace...but I ain't a plane. If a plane, I need to be 1000' over this building. Sort of complicated...ain't it. Bottom line, If I'm at 1150' with my drone, I'm not hitting a plane at 1,750'. Thanks for all your help to solve this mystery.
You must follow FAA rules for altitude.
This 400+ exception only works in Class G airspace.
@@KenHeron I wonder how this is done? There's big bucks knowing how and implementing. I'm watching this Netflix show called 'Designated Survivor'. Its location is DC. Every episode there is a drone clip pushed in. Who the hell has permissions to fly a drone all throughout Wash DC? That alone is a skill...getting the permissions. From a practical point, I bet all the footage was shot in one day.
That's just for 107 pilots and not recreational is that right?
Correct.
Do you know if the same laws apply in canada?
I would agree with being able to fly near radio/cell towers in general. However being that I am in the wireless internet business I do know that WISPs do locate equipment on radio/cell towers. If you go near one of those it is very likely you will lose your drone.
WISPs? What's that? Is that the round microwave antenna? They've been known to cause some serious trouble. I've had my signal transmission totally knocked out while inspecting cell towers but I wasn't aware that there was anything unusual on the tower. Maybe there was and I just didn't recognize it because I only had this problem at one particular site.
@@jerseyshoredroneservices225 WISP is a Wireless Internet Service Provider. They operate on the same frequencies as do drones and home routers.
@@jerseyshoredroneservices225 What you need to do before doing a tower inspection is find out who and what is on the tower. If a WISP is operating on the tower it will most likely cause a problem.
@@rneidermyer5266
So those are the white antennas that are installed in groups for each provider right? One level is AT&t the next one down is T-Mobile below that Verizon etc?
Over the summer I flew around a lot of those but only had trouble on one particular tower. I must have done thousands of orbits, 50 ft radius from center, from above it all the way to the compound below.
The company that hired me and a lot of others to do these audits didn't provide any information about what was on the towers. Most of the time it didn't seem to matter and we all knew to stay a little offset from the microwave transmitters.
Guys that had the V2 phantoms seem to have a lot less trouble than people with the V1. Apparently lightbridge 2.0 is much stronger.
@@jerseyshoredroneservices225 The WISP antennas will not be right with the major cell phone providers equipment. And it will be smaller. Look up Cambium or Ubiquiti to get an idea of what the equipment looks like.
Yes, you CAN fly 400' above the tallest obstacle, but consider that regular aircraft can also fly BELOW 500' ABOVE those same obstacles. So I see no real reason to fly that high. Anything I want to see on that tower or building should be within at the most 200' feet of the top.
This is why you must adhere to airspace regulation set forth by the FAA.
Hey ken I'm new to your channel I have an inspire 2, mavic mini 2, phantom 4, traveler 111 dji spark and a Fpv drone I fly drones for fun and I do competitions but I want to know how to make money with my drones can you make a vid about it
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107 is not stressed enough this will make recreational pilots break the law
I have a tower next to home that's 237 feet with so I can go 637 feet ? He'll No !!! I'm in the flight path of an airport. I get authorization for 400ft. I see planes and helicopters flying over at 1000 feet, helicopters 600 feet so I would never risk going higher than 400feet unless in the mountains.
Only for part 107 holders and airspace rules take precedent.
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Well, I'm not going to say how high my Mini 2 was today...except it was a nice view....
Ken, I have a very dumb question that I would love an answer to. I would like to fly in an area that has clifs 1000s feet high. What happens if I'm at the top flying at 200 feet and fly over the cliff were it would become (in a split second ) 1200 feet. What can I expect?
As long as you are in class G airspace it should be okay. Remember the height limit is 400 AGL, above ground level.
didn’t i watch this video a while ago?
Yup.
Hi Ken I have a question. If Class E5 airspace starts at 700 ft AGL at the location of a 1000 ft tower, does this rule still apply? From what I understand, class E airspace is controlled but doesn't require authorization UNLESS it starts at ground level. There is a Jan 2018 memo from Scott Gardner at the FAA which clarifies that, and indicates that applications for authorization are not required for E1, E3-E8.
No.
If going 400 above takes you out of class G airspace, this allowance can't be used
@@KenHeron Thanks for your reply. I'm still a little confused. Is there a rule that specifies that this allowance does not apply to *all* controlled airspace, including that which doesn't require authorization? What would be the point of clarifying that non-airport Class E airspace doesn't require authorization if you can never ascend to 700+ feet without the structure exception, at least without a waiver? Thanks.
@@KenHeronI think it can if that airspace is class e with floor at 700ft
For all others you would need an authorization
I find it interesting the DJI can just Make up a GEO fence, but let me Fly as high as I want...What??? Yeah, they Locked my Drones saying I was in a Temp. Restricted Zone [ I'm NOT ], so I had to hack the Fly app to fly...good thing I'm Smarter than DJI...but that being said, when they DON'T have a BS GEO zone going, they let you fly as High as you want...doesn't make sense....
In the United States drone operators must conform to FAA height regulations. In what country do you live?
@@KenHeron YES Ken, I know that very well since I've been flying Drones for 10 years and RC's for 55+. I stay below 400ft, but DJI doesn't stop you from going 1500ft. What they DO do, is make up their Own No Fly Zones. They put up a GEO Fence in my Area and Locked my Mini 2's so I couldn't Fly. Well, I called the FAA Field Office in Long Beach, and THEY said I am NOWHERE NEAR a Restricted Zone, Temp or otherwise. I also Checked the FAA Website, which has a Very Nice Map Showing ALL of the Restricted Zones, Temp and otherwise, that show's ALL the area's and WHY they are Restricted. And AGAIN, I AM NOWHERE NEAR A RESTRICTED ZONE. And I am NOT Waiting a WEEK to fly MY drones that I PAID for because DJI starts Making up some BS Rules on they're OWN. So I hacked the Fly app and I fly anyway. ONLY the FAA will tell me when and where I can't fly. By the way, when I'm Eye to Gimbal with my Mini 2?? Yeah Ken, I know I feel like a big guy, but I am NOT 11ft 9.....so I don't have a lot of Faith in DJI...but I do Love my Mini 2's...both of them...
I just took a class for Part 107 and it was emphasized and explained in detail. Not a secret or a loophole at all. Take the class you will learn a lot more.
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Will that still work with all the software updates there have been since you first shot this? I usually can't even get up to 400 ft. The drone will stop at about 392 ft with a message saying "maximum altitude reached"
You should still be able to opt out of a height limit through the app. DJI allows this.
As Ken stated in his reply, there should be somewhere in your app to adjust that limit. What type of drone are you flying?
@@ramblinrick4u Thank Ken and Roaming. I will look for that setting. I have a Phantom 4 Pro and a Mini 2
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Ken, @2:20 you're wearing goggles and BVLOS. And this is supposedly a tutorial on how to fly within the rules? Another video had you flying with a VO in communication with a radio and using binocs, both outside Part 107 regs. If your schtick is all about waggling it in the FAA's face, they're likely to get the last laugh
You clearly don't know how editing works. Also, familiarize yourself with FAA rules. Here's a good place to start:
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Happy learning!
just be aware that if you go above 500 feet AGL, all the other VFR traffic is flying there also.
Looks as good as 400 ft
This guy will get you in trouble. Don't listen to him... Read the rules yourself then you have no worries... By the way he talks, he thinks The rules are a joke...TROUBLE MAKER
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this applies to hobbyists as well. would be nice if the rules were easier to understand for everyone.
Does not apply to hobbyist unfortunately.
Police officers should watch this video lol. So many try to tell people where I live that it’s against the law
It’s not really an Exception, it’s totally allowed as a Part 107 Pilot
Buh and bye