This is ironic for me. 😒I just got pissed off ealier today at my TV & unplugged it from the net, for auto renaming the port that I had my PlayStation temporarily hooked up to, Even though I already limited the tracking settings. I'm going to have to get a separate streaming box or make an HTPC. ...SMH...& I remember having very hard time finding a Non-Smart 4k TV before I brought the 1 have now...
My brother bought cheap Xiaomi smart TV. I've tried to install Brave (using separate APK, and no avail) because the app store is very limited (not like in smartphone). I want to change the firmware but I still don't have the clue for that (still researching). Also, I read if I flash the TV, It will lose DRM LV 1 which (sadly) needed for Netflix. :(
The last dumb tv I had was a Westinghouse that I bought circa 2005. Best Buy was clearancing them out because "no one knows how to use it without a tuner." Meanwhile I've used TV since before that without a tuner.
The only functionality I need from my TV is the ability to change inputs and the ability to mess with the color and sound settings. Everything else simply needs to go. I wish there was an easy way to "root" those TVs and install a different kind of ROM.
I'm sorry, but I freaking love the fact that I can be watching a UA-cam video on my phone and, with a couple touches, the video will start playing on my TV.
@@johndumpling1896 even bluetooth is bad to have cause DARPA showed years ago that they were able to remotely hack a vehicle while it was driving on the highway and take over steering, braking and acceleration.
@@johndumpling1896 Not yet, the number of TV's connecting to the internet far far far exceed the number of cars with internet access, but your point is still valid I'm just bit picking about which is the greater threat at the moment
@@stultuses When you can remotely control the car, you can completely take control over it, like crash it into a tree, disable brakes, etc. These are serious problems.
I've gone to target and best buy the past few days, and am unable to find a non-smart tv. Even a year and a half ago I was able to get a 43' insignia non-smart tv. Now I don't know if that model exists anymore
Moved out of my place, but I put my dumb TV in storage realizing that when I need to get a big screen again, it will be very hard to find one without Internet Connectivity...Down with smart crap!
@Tardagar Dovarg it's because some kind of freak might connect something to the TV someday and the TV sends out whatever it had stored already to the skynet.
@Tardagar Dovarg I don't think we will be able to see anymore dumb TV in the market anymore. May be they will sell the "dumb" as a the new premium privacy respecting tv, who knows!
When I bought my TV, they weren't even 'smart' yet...It still works (probably because I rarely watch TV anyways). If I want smart features, I'll hook up a raspberry pi or something.
My whole day is helping seniors change channels and turn on their smart TVs!!!! How can they turn a simple task into such a time-consuming chore, and when you finally set something up, along comes an update that changes everything again!!!!!!!!!!
It's a display. That's all it needs to be. That's it. And that's all I ever want the damn thing to do. The whole point is that it's part of an interface between me _and the device that's actually doing the "smart" stuff._ In lieu of that though, VLAN-it-up on your network and sandbox the damn thing into a no-internet box. And that's only if you need it to connect to something else via wifi. Which you probably shouldn't do.
Thank YOU, Henry! I knew about most of these issues before, but now it's time for this video to gain lots of views. I'm going to share it with everyone I know. I agree with you 100%.
I use my smart TV to stream UA-cam, Netflix, Prime, etc. I could disconnect it and plug in a Roku or an AppleTV, but then the privacy problem wouldn’t be fixed; it would just have moved to a different device.
@@echohaaff9642 they say they are but are they really? you'll take a company at their word? Google also claims to be that but you see what they really do
Get yourself a Raspberry pi 5 a bit more expensive than a fire stick but you have a single-board computer that can do over 1080p video playback. And turn your TV into a monitor. That is what they were in the beginning anyway.
I have been dreading the day when I have to replace my current TV. It was a nice unit from the early days of integrating “smart” functions so it is gloriously simple and dumb with tons of ports and connectivity. I know that when it eventually fails, I will have to shop hard to find something that will give me the control to turn off all the microphones, cameras, and 6 different ways it will be trying to phone home to the mothership with any and all information it can gather about me. Ugh. Such a hassle.
I recommend just buying a 43 inch monitor with built in speakers, which I did in December 2022. You can plug a Roku or something else into the back, and a DVD player using HDMI. My LG 43UN700 monitor comes with a remote, to turn on, change volume, adjust brightness and settings. For watching live TV, one can plug an external antenna into an HDMI set top box to the back of a monitor. Most monitors do not have smart features.
Recently had a Sony TV give me a bug called "high power device, please disconnect usb" sounds serious but it's actually a marketing scam, the "smart tv" has this rule built in to activate at random and force you to send it in for repair so they can "fix" it. Customer support does not help and deletes all threads talking about these kinds of issues.
It's like when I go out to eat (issue 1), if a restaurant has a gigantic menu I can be pretty sure the experience will be alright at best. Focus is key for a great user experience!
@@sol_mental about the only thing I really accept on a menu That's overloaded is maybe a hamburger, and that's going to be based off how it looks. In general it's pretty hard to fuck up a burger
@@DaPanda19 I had a mushroom swiss burger at a restaurant who didn't put any spices or salt in the meat. The mushrooms and cheese were good but I had to shake table salt on the patty to make it palatable. My husband's burger tasted just fine.
Depends on the place. My favorite restaurant is a small mom and pop type business. Their menu is really big compared to a traditional menu, like going through a children's book almost lol. She's so good at cooking though that I nearly get something new every time I visit and it's always consistently good. It's rare, but big menu doesn't automatically mean bad experience.
Keep it dumb as a rock. The reason anyone can buy a 55 inch smart TV for half the price of a dumb TV at half the size is the data collection profits. I use mine as a monitor to watch streaming video and some antenna channels.
I miss regular tvs, i had to get a new tv and was kind annoyed that no matter what store i went to all they had was smart tvs. No one seems to make them these days or least in my general idea. Also if their a brand that doesnt sell smart tvs i would appreaciate a nudge
I still use a CRT with a recorder with digital channels connected to it, so my TV is really serving just as a monitor. When it eventually dies [15 years strong so far] I might get a TV that lets me watch youtube stuff. I thought to leave the CAT cable disconnected except when actually watching youtube. I expect it will be private enough when it's not connected to the interweb.
You don’t need to convince me the Phillips smart tv takes forever to power on, randomly powers off and takes 5 mins for the input menu to show. It gets slower with every update
every device needs to have 10 decoys so that there are 10 streams to confuse trackers, also anytime the camera or mic is transmitting, a hardware embedded code paints a red border on the screen
This reminds me of the days of the VCR's, when you could watch a show for a minute. All the equipment would come up in less than a second. Hit play, there it is. Right where I left off. Today, turn it on, leave the room, come back, it's still booting. When it comes up, then I can select the show I was watching. Wait for that to load, crap. What's better about all this tech? So we can make some ad agency happy, sorry boys the ad blockers are on. Now if I could only easily load adblockers on my smart TV.
Everything is getting worse. Tube tvs lasted forever, these tvs today can't last 10 years most of the time. I still have working Playstation one,two and PS3 controllers. I've had to replace my PS4 controller not once, not twice, THREE times, which works out to being a controller a year so far because I got it in 2020 and it came with a controller. My first cell phone lasted me 5 or 6 years then I just lost it one day. These phones now a days are too big, they break WAY too easily because they're TOO HEAVY. People probably have never even seen me with a phone that didn't have a cracked screen. They're so expensive too, like 500 to 800 for a new one, GTFO OF HERE! I just want to call and text people, FECK!! Food quality and sizes suck, nothing is built to last every thing is just about PROFIT PROFIT PROFIT, FECK THE CUSTOMER, THEY'LL BUY MORE! We seriously need a revolution in companies who care about customers and quality again. Capitalism is at it's end, we knew it would eventually happen. A small handful of massive companies/corporations own the market and control it, like the mafia running the ports. It's corrupted. And covid lockdowns destroyed a lot of the small companies that were left. THE FUTURE SUCKS MY MAN! The future sucks........
The backlight in my non smart samsung bit the dust today, sounds like one bublb took the hold thing down. I can get the led backlight strips, but the parts are like $100. And then i have to take the tv completely apart. So i started looing for a new tv (NON SMART). I found a bunch of site articles on where to buy a NON SMART TV, but then tv is no longer available, or they just straight up list smart tv's on the non smart tv list. This is like phycological warfare. Pretend it's available, only to find out it is really not available. This is like a feedback loop, where they just send you in circles. If you find someone recommending a non-smart tv, they don't list any options or product numbers that you can use to find the TV. Probably cause they don't exist, well not if your looking for at least 40" or bigger. I could find 32" and lower. If you contact electronic stores and ask if they carry any non smart tv's, and they will say no. The devil is a peeping tom, except now he wont let you close the blinds.
It's irrelevant what the TV theoretically does. I have yet to meet a boomer who hooked that thing up to the network (themselves). It's the nerds who are dump enough to link the TV to the internet and do the same for their boomer parents and grandparents. Old folks don't even know what those devils device's can do. They turn them on, only connecting power and TV cable, and that's it.
@@iwankazlow2268 The guys that delivered & set up mine connected it to the internet without telling me. From day one, I've always booted it directly to my cable or consoles, so I never actually saw the "smart" features until Android had to do a very long update several months later. I ended up missing 2 shows because of that.
Well the point about a monitor instead of a smart TV is idiotic: just don't give your Smart TV internet access. Use any other computer to do whatever Smart TVs would do. Take the subsidized deal and keep the damn thing offline: Problem solved...ZERO effort
Not giving a smart device access to the Internet is a lot harder than it seems especially now with things like Amazons sidewalk and other privacy invaders that take your neighbors Wi-Fi or any no Wi-Fi and just borrow it to connect with or without your explicit permission
@@peterprivacy5034 Sidewalk is a mesh network just like the new protocol that the bio luminescent boys are developing, forgot the name of it, but will standardise the creepiness and all the big corps will have free access into our homes. Fun for the whole family! Ludicrous
Well, I have a Samsung 70 inch TV. Apparently they sent out an email to my phone. The TV is not hooked up to the Internet but somehow other data keeps coming up so there’s a breach in it and I can’t get the data off of it says it keeps blocking the view of the TV all I use air TV, and a DVD player occasionally, this thing really sucks and pisses me off. I would shoot it if I thought it would do me any good
My mom bought a smart TV last year that required a Roku account to even use! You couldn't even watch normal over the air TV with an antenna without setting up an online account.
I don't like smart anything, including battery charges, because they always over step their boundaries! I know this is security issue, but smart battery chargers say a battery is unrecoverable when it isn't. So smart anything is not in my self interest, and being invasive in my life is even worst. Microsoft being the biggest offender, which is why I use Linux. What I don't like is when people say if you have nothing to hide, then it's no big deal. They obviously haven't looked into this, and wouldn't mind anyone coming into their home to inventory everything they have, which, for example, is what Microsoft does. If we don't like it, then we need to tell the companies we don't like these invasion, and videos like this is a way to tell them. In the end there isn't enough people who care to make this change.
The main thing i don't think gets talked about enough is that smart TVs don't just display things any more. They have to "think"about it and often just end up displaying nothing for no reason. It's the most frustrating thing having to turn my TV on and off just to get it to display correctly
Bro! You hit every point 10 / 10! I've been searching for THIS VIDEO for days & finally found it. Now I just want to put a custom firmware on my TCL to make it just be a Display & not trying to be my Apple TV. Subbed.
Can confirm this. I've just reset the Smart TV of my parents, and noticed that it has loads of features that no one ever used or even noticed. For all practical intents and purposes, its just a dumb TV. And no it doesn't even need it's WiFi.
Agree 100%! Visio SUCKS!!! Their "app store" has nothing to offer....they are super slow with terrible wifi reception. I wound up buying a firestick lite and plugging it into the hdmi port....... I wish I had invested in a passive 3D "dumb" tv or monitor.....kudos on a great video. Subscribed as soon as I heard you say that visio sucks!
Specificity point is spot on. We don’t need software on a tv unless they fully implement Apple TV or other preferred 3rd party software. However since they implement ads, we will never see the internal smart function of television have the option to manually disable.
i bought a plasma tv second hand, crazy how good quality the picture and built in speakers are compared to modern tvs. hands down my favourite way to watch
honestly if they did smart tvs correctly i would actually buy one. one that turns into an ambient computing device, is actually responsive to user inputs and configurations, but yeah this just benefits the consumer not the corporation so we wont see those benefits.
still using a LG 720p plasma as my monitor. When its time to upgrade...It'll be buying a smart tv and never hooking it up to the net ever...or simply making my way through used plasmas until I find something I like. Any thoughts on doing surgery on smart tv's to lobotomize them? You know...removing the cameras and microphones? Thanks...
After trying many options, best one is to actually have a PC running Linux connected to "dumb" TV (or smart TV without network access). I've build myself HTPC with cheap older hardware for under 100$ and it even has 1TB drive so i can save some stuff locally. Raspberry Pi could work too, but it costs over 100$ to get 4GB model with case and everything. Performance wise it's much slower than any decent x86 CPU. There are ITX boards with integrated CPU which can work with passive cooling and don't use a lot of power, those are perfect for this.
I also use a monitor and a Shield TV, also because in Italy, if you own a device that receives TV signal, you have to pay an annual fee of about 105$ to the state!
I was looking for a 4K monitor for a Geochron. A good 42" monitor was a bit over $600. A TV from the same manufacturer with the same screen type was $350. Clearly, the TVs are subsidized somehow. I bought the TV and never connected it to the Internet. The only annoyance is that when I turn it on, it says that it hasn't been set up. I just exit and enjoy the view.
This is why my next TV is going to be a PC Monitor. No bloatware, no smart features, just 43 inches of excellent screen quality at 4K 120Hz for console gaming and 144Hz for PC gaming.
I was told not to hook up the Internet for my TV. Also, it gets slower and slower. You ended up buying a new one in about 3-4 years. My old dumb CRT tv lasted for 10 years.
Fully agree (and the reasons I wasn't aware of (a few small points) reafirm my reason for sticking to my old 1080p tv instead of upgrading to 4k and being broke for 2 months even with a smart tv (also you forgot ultrasonic cross device tracking which most definitely is being used even if you don't connect your tv to the internet to sell your data through your phone
I have a Roku TV. Aside from UA-cam, Spotify, and gaming, I don't use it for anything else. Was pretty creeped out that it has the ability to target ads based on the content of connected devices and streaming apps. Needless to say, I turned that off real quick.
@@Patelivision Go to settings. Go to privacy. Make sure limit ad tracking is turned on. There's also another setting regarding ACR. Make sure that is checked off.
Ive gone through over 30 smart TVs. TCL is the best I dont care what anyone says. They have the best UI, never glitched on me, been rheough all whether, constant updates, great HDR, great sound, many ports.. Ibreally enjoy my TCL. Samsung, LG, Panasonic, Sony, they all suck! Well Sony TV arent to bsd, just way to expensive.
My smart tv tries to identify devices plugged into it so it can optimize settings. This process takes about 5 minutes every time the hdmi is switched around. I have to switch the hdmi often because of how few ports it has. The UA-cam app almost never works. This isn't a cheap tv either, vost me 1500 bucks
My new tv remote does not even have a source button. I have to go through 4 pages of menus showing me random bullshit just to change from ps5 to pc. And on top of that if I leave it paused for a long period of time it will jjst start playing something I never clicked on.
Love my TV but the "smart" aspect of it is extremely underwhelming. It's a 2018 model and the os doesn't even use android so everything is crappy samsung store stuff, I don't even think it's being supported any more. I would love to be able to flash a custom os on it though and run like arch linux or something on it.
Thank you for this! i never fell for the whole, "it will make your life easier and more convenient" bs. I haven't bought a TV because they all seem to have these same 'features' that i do not want anywhere in my house. Same with Alexa or Google's version.
this is an interesting video! i had a dumb tv that was a hand-me-down that my family had for 10 years. it (finally) broke last month and i had to buy a new one, and in a hurry and budget i bought a firetv and changed all of the data settings before using it, although i prefer to use the roku from my old TV since we don't have cable anymore (that probably is another privacy concern, yikes). i didn't realize until searching for a new tv that 99% of tvs were smart and that it was borderline impossible to not buy a smart tv.
Just for the jokes i searched for "LCD TV" and then for "dumb TV" on amazon, surprisingly amazon knew exactly what i meant by "dumb TV" and showed me normal TVs, with sum bs like clothes mixed in but still alot less smart TVs😂
Blame Netflix, Amazon, Apple and Disney for requiring DRM-certified smart TVs or other devices to watch their content. You can always block the offending traffic coming out of a smart TV, but you can't make a non-certified device play DRM-locked content.
I have a 1080p TV from like 9 years ago. Looking at smart TVs I noticed that the computer chip that has the smart features just takes too long to boot up and enjoy my content, whether it's game from my PC or Xbox. I get pushed away from the newer televisions.
This is not good lol. I was hoping for some dumb tv suggestions, but you only advised how to mitigate the issues with smart ones. And the problem is only getting worse. IoT is becoming a reality. Can't wait for my toaster to be hacked and burn my house down.
Not only that but they update and change the entire menu so you as a consumer have to re-learn how to operate the television or worse take away features that were usefull (LG I'm talking to you, just quit it, quit it!) I wish you could just get a basic television just designed to show your sources with the best resolution available at a price point without paying all the licencing and nonsense crap you don't want.......didn't we learn from the bloat when buying a new computer....no we didn't, we just don't want to give the consumer a choice.
Streaming apps are useful but first time i got an smart tv hoping it will be like a tablet i got really annoyed by the massive bunch of ads at home screen
I have a VIZIO TV, I read somewhere that if you do a factory reset, then just bypassed the internet log in and went straight to the antenna set up. It worked for me, got all my channels back where before with their "smartcast" it missed some of the channels in the menu even though the scan picked them up. Point is , just bypass logging in to the internet and go straight to the TV part . I think the "smartcast " was forced on us so they can make money with the ads that were placed there in the channel guide,.. Oh, by the way, I WILL NEVER, NEVER EVER BUY A VIZIO PRODUCT AGAIN
TV's actually don't make sense to have anymore. I don't watch regular TV so all I really need is Netflix, Prime Video and some other smaller streaming services. A giant monitor with a raspberry pi would probably work fine for that.
Totally agree my list of annoying issues. 1. Having to update the tuning every time I switch on the TV due to new channels - I have never seen any new channel. 2. Remote not working 1st to break 3. Apps not working and unsupported 2nd to break 4. Time it takes to control anything. Everything takes 20 plus seconds to boot up. 5. To top it off the worst thing is the rubbish that is on TV these days! Everything is a repeat or some low budget reality rubbish. Why do I bother? PS - just thought of another one - Subscriptions!!!
It is so true. I connected an USB led light strip into the USB port behind my Sony smart TV. Common sense would say that once the tv shuts off the USB port would not have any current. Well, I shut off the tv at night and during the evening..I am not lying but the lights turn on and off at random during the night. So the tv is turning on and off for some reason without the screen turning on. So it must be something fishy about that. So I shut off any and all features that function in the background. I removed the camera and the microphone. I connected the tv via wired network and unplug it when not streaming
Why do you need to "update" your TV? Think how stupid that sounds lol. Just don't even hook it up to the net and you'll never even know about these "updates". From what I've been reading in this comment section, updates seem to take a long time (hours I've been reading, WTF???), screw your settings up and I've even been reading it makes their tv slower. Remember those heavy 80 pound tube tvs? They never had software, no updates and they always lasted so long that usually by the time you want to replace it it's just because it's so old and you just want a bigger one, not because it stopped working. These TVs now a days suck, can't even last 10 years. Pathetic garbage tech.
Share your thoughts on these crappy inventions down below! Nothing fosters love like shared hatred 😡💚
Why not get a smart TV and just go with your "Step 4" and never connect it to the internet?
This is ironic for me. 😒I just got pissed off ealier today at my TV & unplugged it from the net, for auto renaming the port that I had my PlayStation temporarily hooked up to, Even though I already limited the tracking settings.
I'm going to have to get a separate streaming box or make an HTPC.
...SMH...& I remember having very hard time finding a Non-Smart 4k TV before I brought the 1 have now...
My brother bought cheap Xiaomi smart TV. I've tried to install Brave (using separate APK, and no avail) because the app store is very limited (not like in smartphone). I want to change the firmware but I still don't have the clue for that (still researching). Also, I read if I flash the TV, It will lose DRM LV 1 which (sadly) needed for Netflix. :(
The last dumb tv I had was a Westinghouse that I bought circa 2005. Best Buy was clearancing them out because "no one knows how to use it without a tuner." Meanwhile I've used TV since before that without a tuner.
@Techlore.
how to have privacy and security while being a GAMER. and a FILM movie-/-tv enthusiast.
PRETTY MUCH IMPOSSIBLE.
The only functionality I need from my TV is the ability to change inputs and the ability to mess with the color and sound settings. Everything else simply needs to go. I wish there was an easy way to "root" those TVs and install a different kind of ROM.
Like stick a frigging pendrive to it and install a klipping linux on it xD
That would be awesome
@@MrKornnugget Well, yeah. A TV sized monitor with builtin terrestrial television capabilities. I would pay good money for a quality TV like that.
This is why I use either my console or PC that's connected to my TV.
Non-Smart TV Brands: Sceptre & Westinghouse. You can buy these online, Walmart, etc.
I'm sorry, but I freaking love the fact that I can be watching a UA-cam video on my phone and, with a couple touches, the video will start playing on my TV.
Finally someone is talking about one of the biggest elephants in the room! Please share everyone
cars connected to the internet are a bigger problem
@@johndumpling1896 its unreal, I hope to see a video from @Techlore like that as well shortly
@@johndumpling1896 even bluetooth is bad to have cause DARPA showed years ago that they were able to remotely hack a vehicle while it was driving on the highway and take over steering, braking and acceleration.
@@johndumpling1896
Not yet, the number of TV's connecting to the internet far far far exceed the number of cars with internet access, but your point is still valid I'm just bit picking about which is the greater threat at the moment
@@stultuses When you can remotely control the car, you can completely take control over it, like crash it into a tree, disable brakes, etc. These are serious problems.
You're absolutely right. The lack of options for non-smart TVs over the years has gotten weird, and this perfectly explains why.
I've gone to target and best buy the past few days, and am unable to find a non-smart tv. Even a year and a half ago I was able to get a 43' insignia non-smart tv. Now I don't know if that model exists anymore
Reminds me of Orwell's 1984, with their flat screen monitors described in the book, which monitor the homes.
I believe spectre still sella dumb TVs.
Moved out of my place, but I put my dumb TV in storage realizing that when I need to get a big screen again, it will be very hard to find one without Internet Connectivity...Down with smart crap!
May be we just desolder the wifi, bt & lan port...
@Tardagar Dovarg it's because some kind of freak might connect something to the TV someday and the TV sends out whatever it had stored already to the skynet.
@Tardagar Dovarg I don't think we will be able to see anymore dumb TV in the market anymore. May be they will sell the "dumb" as a the new premium privacy respecting tv, who knows!
When I bought my TV, they weren't even 'smart' yet...It still works (probably because I rarely watch TV anyways). If I want smart features, I'll hook up a raspberry pi or something.
My whole day is helping seniors change channels and turn on their smart TVs!!!! How can they turn a simple task into such a time-consuming chore, and when you finally set something up, along comes an update that changes everything again!!!!!!!!!!
God bless you 🎉
Nightmare material:
When companies put a smart assistant into their devices like Bluetooth speakers, soundbars or even kitchen appliances...
An excuse imo to spy on you and collect more data about you that the companies can then make money off of.
It's a display. That's all it needs to be. That's it. And that's all I ever want the damn thing to do. The whole point is that it's part of an interface between me _and the device that's actually doing the "smart" stuff._
In lieu of that though, VLAN-it-up on your network and sandbox the damn thing into a no-internet box. And that's only if you need it to connect to something else via wifi. Which you probably shouldn't do.
buy very large computer display and use that for a TV
@@TheSulross yes, i want an 85" class user display
@@maximumwoof8662 85 inch laptop
Interesting
Exactly how i also think of phones. Which is why i have a flip phone and will never buy a 'smart' phone. No thanks.
Only reason I have a “smart” tv is because literally every TV is a smart TV now but I don’t connect them to the internet so I should be good
That is what I'm considering. My laptop hooked up to the TV craps all over the onboard TV apps.
Is there a way to stop internet through HDMI? when I hook up my mini pc to my tv that is.
I've always preferred the freedom projectors provide, a plus is they rarely have any 'smart' capabilities, unless you pay extra for it
Thank YOU, Henry! I knew about most of these issues before, but now it's time for this video to gain lots of views. I'm going to share it with everyone I know. I agree with you 100%.
It's all fun and games 'till Samsung says "Emergency call from McAfee is blocked"
2:10 every manufacturer does this. I honestly don't care that our TV is 15 years old and ~20 inches.
I use my smart TV to stream UA-cam, Netflix, Prime, etc. I could disconnect it and plug in a Roku or an AppleTV, but then the privacy problem wouldn’t be fixed; it would just have moved to a different device.
why’re you including apple here 😭 out of all the major companies, they’re the most privacy friendly
@@echohaaff9642 they say they are but are they really? you'll take a company at their word? Google also claims to be that but you see what they really do
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Get yourself a Raspberry pi 5 a bit more expensive than a fire stick but you have a single-board computer that can do over 1080p video playback. And turn your TV into a monitor. That is what they were in the beginning anyway.
I have been dreading the day when I have to replace my current TV. It was a nice unit from the early days of integrating “smart” functions so it is gloriously simple and dumb with tons of ports and connectivity. I know that when it eventually fails, I will have to shop hard to find something that will give me the control to turn off all the microphones, cameras, and 6 different ways it will be trying to phone home to the mothership with any and all information it can gather about me. Ugh. Such a hassle.
I recommend just buying a 43 inch monitor with built in speakers, which I did in December 2022. You can plug a Roku or something else into the back, and a DVD player using HDMI. My LG 43UN700 monitor comes with a remote, to turn on, change volume, adjust brightness and settings. For watching live TV, one can plug an external antenna into an HDMI set top box to the back of a monitor. Most monitors do not have smart features.
Better than a tv. A projector. That what I would get.
Alot of projectors are also smart projectors
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Actually no.
Many are not. Businesses cannot afford data collection by those companies as it would be a security breach.
I have never hooked my TV to the internet because I never stream.
On top of their security issues usually the remotes suck too ergonomically challenging and as most of the time its dark in the room suck even more.
Recently had a Sony TV give me a bug called "high power device, please disconnect usb" sounds serious but it's actually a marketing scam, the "smart tv" has this rule built in to activate at random and force you to send it in for repair so they can "fix" it. Customer support does not help and deletes all threads talking about these kinds of issues.
It's like when I go out to eat (issue 1), if a restaurant has a gigantic menu I can be pretty sure the experience will be alright at best. Focus is key for a great user experience!
Some menus are too long. That's why I never eat Chinese! No other reason.
That's a real thing tho, I'm always afraid of trash food on restaurants with a huge menu
@@sol_mental about the only thing I really accept on a menu That's overloaded is maybe a hamburger, and that's going to be based off how it looks. In general it's pretty hard to fuck up a burger
@@DaPanda19 I had a mushroom swiss burger at a restaurant who didn't put any spices or salt in the meat. The mushrooms and cheese were good but I had to shake table salt on the patty to make it palatable. My husband's burger tasted just fine.
Depends on the place. My favorite restaurant is a small mom and pop type business. Their menu is really big compared to a traditional menu, like going through a children's book almost lol. She's so good at cooking though that I nearly get something new every time I visit and it's always consistently good. It's rare, but big menu doesn't automatically mean bad experience.
Keep it dumb as a rock.
The reason anyone can buy a 55 inch smart TV for half the price of a dumb TV at half the size is the data collection profits. I use mine as a monitor to watch streaming video and some antenna channels.
I miss regular tvs, i had to get a new tv and was kind annoyed that no matter what store i went to all they had was smart tvs. No one seems to make them these days or least in my general idea. Also if their a brand that doesnt sell smart tvs i would appreaciate a nudge
I stream from the internet to my laptop and project the display to my big acreen TV (15 years old) via hdmi connection. Works great.
everything new sucks these days, we can't have shit anymore
I only “smart” tv features I use is airplay and burn-in protection.
Apart from that it’s just a monitor for my pc and game consoles.
I still use a CRT with a recorder with digital channels connected to it, so my TV is really serving just as a monitor. When it eventually dies [15 years strong so far] I might get a TV that lets me watch youtube stuff. I thought to leave the CAT cable disconnected except when actually watching youtube. I expect it will be private enough when it's not connected to the interweb.
You don’t need to convince me the Phillips smart tv takes forever to power on, randomly powers off and takes 5 mins for the input menu to show. It gets slower with every update
Ridiculous! TVs shouldn't even NEED updates!
That’s just your Philips TV.
wait yours hasn't been crashing on the guide forcing a hard power down by pulling the plug?
😃idk why i feel so good after watching your videos , thanks for always making great content
thts the feeling of empowerment!
every device needs to have 10 decoys so that there are 10 streams to confuse trackers, also anytime the camera or mic is transmitting, a hardware embedded code paints a red border on the screen
How does one do that?
This reminds me of the days of the VCR's, when you could watch a show for a minute. All the equipment would come up in less than a second. Hit play, there it is. Right where I left off.
Today, turn it on, leave the room, come back, it's still booting. When it comes up, then I can select the show I was watching. Wait for that to load, crap. What's better about all this tech? So we can make some ad agency happy, sorry boys the ad blockers are on. Now if I could only easily load adblockers on my smart TV.
Everything is getting worse. Tube tvs lasted forever, these tvs today can't last 10 years most of the time. I still have working Playstation one,two and PS3 controllers. I've had to replace my PS4 controller not once, not twice, THREE times, which works out to being a controller a year so far because I got it in 2020 and it came with a controller.
My first cell phone lasted me 5 or 6 years then I just lost it one day. These phones now a days are too big, they break WAY too easily because they're TOO HEAVY. People probably have never even seen me with a phone that didn't have a cracked screen. They're so expensive too, like 500 to 800 for a new one, GTFO OF HERE! I just want to call and text people, FECK!!
Food quality and sizes suck, nothing is built to last every thing is just about PROFIT PROFIT PROFIT, FECK THE CUSTOMER, THEY'LL BUY MORE!
We seriously need a revolution in companies who care about customers and quality again. Capitalism is at it's end, we knew it would eventually happen. A small handful of massive companies/corporations own the market and control it, like the mafia running the ports. It's corrupted. And covid lockdowns destroyed a lot of the small companies that were left. THE FUTURE SUCKS MY MAN! The future sucks........
A desktop monitor and a converter box.. Yes! Now what to do about the smart refrigerator, smart washer and dryer, smart toilet..?
The backlight in my non smart samsung bit the dust today, sounds like one bublb took the hold thing down. I can get the led backlight strips, but the parts are like $100. And then i have to take the tv completely apart. So i started looing for a new tv (NON SMART). I found a bunch of site articles on where to buy a NON SMART TV, but then tv is no longer available, or they just straight up list smart tv's on the non smart tv list. This is like phycological warfare. Pretend it's available, only to find out it is really not available. This is like a feedback loop, where they just send you in circles. If you find someone recommending a non-smart tv, they don't list any options or product numbers that you can use to find the TV. Probably cause they don't exist, well not if your looking for at least 40" or bigger. I could find 32" and lower. If you contact electronic stores and ask if they carry any non smart tv's, and they will say no. The devil is a peeping tom, except now he wont let you close the blinds.
I ended up getting one about 4 years ago, but only because I wasn't able to actually even FIND a dumb TV anywhere when I was shopping for a 4K one!
It's irrelevant what the TV theoretically does.
I have yet to meet a boomer who hooked that thing up to the network (themselves).
It's the nerds who are dump enough to link the TV to the internet and do the same for their boomer parents and grandparents.
Old folks don't even know what those devils device's can do. They turn them on, only connecting power and TV cable, and that's it.
@@iwankazlow2268 The guys that delivered & set up mine connected it to the internet without telling me. From day one, I've always booted it directly to my cable or consoles, so I never actually saw the "smart" features until Android had to do a very long update several months later. I ended up missing 2 shows because of that.
Many Commercial-grade TVs do not have SmartTV capabilities. That may make it easier to find one.
Excellent and informative instruction. Thank you for this video.
People should be smart, not appliances. Those should be dumb.
Unfortunately, it's not that way.
Well the point about a monitor instead of a smart TV is idiotic: just don't give your Smart TV internet access. Use any other computer to do whatever Smart TVs would do. Take the subsidized deal and keep the damn thing offline: Problem solved...ZERO effort
Not giving a smart device access to the Internet is a lot harder than it seems especially now with things like Amazons sidewalk and other privacy invaders that take your neighbors Wi-Fi or any no Wi-Fi and just borrow it to connect with or without your explicit permission
@@InspiredInsights4U well if you use passwords on your WiFi and don't plug in an ethernet cable you should be good
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@@peterprivacy5034 Sidewalk is a mesh network just like the new protocol that the bio luminescent boys are developing, forgot the name of it, but will standardise the creepiness and all the big corps will have free access into our homes. Fun for the whole family! Ludicrous
Well, I have a Samsung 70 inch TV. Apparently they sent out an email to my phone. The TV is not hooked up to the Internet but somehow other data keeps coming up so there’s a breach in it and I can’t get the data off of it says it keeps blocking the view of the TV all I use air TV, and a DVD player occasionally, this thing really sucks and pisses me off. I would shoot it if I thought it would do me any good
My mom bought a smart TV last year that required a Roku account to even use! You couldn't even watch normal over the air TV with an antenna without setting up an online account.
I don't like smart anything, including battery charges, because they always over step their boundaries!
I know this is security issue, but smart battery chargers say a battery is unrecoverable when it isn't. So smart anything is not in my self interest, and being invasive in my life is even worst. Microsoft being the biggest offender, which is why I use Linux. What I don't like is when people say if you have nothing to hide, then it's no big deal. They obviously haven't looked into this, and wouldn't mind anyone coming into their home to inventory everything they have, which, for example, is what Microsoft does. If we don't like it, then we need to tell the companies we don't like these invasion, and videos like this is a way to tell them. In the end there isn't enough people who care to make this change.
The main thing i don't think gets talked about enough is that smart TVs don't just display things any more. They have to "think"about it and often just end up displaying nothing for no reason. It's the most frustrating thing having to turn my TV on and off just to get it to display correctly
The remote control doesn't have numbers.
There's no such a thing as privacy when you're online.
The time has changed "Dumb is the new Smart"!
Lol I got smart tv ad for this video
Bro! You hit every point 10 / 10! I've been searching for THIS VIDEO for days & finally found it. Now I just want to put a custom firmware on my TCL to make it just be a Display & not trying to be my Apple TV. Subbed.
Can confirm this. I've just reset the Smart TV of my parents, and noticed that it has loads of features that no one ever used or even noticed. For all practical intents and purposes, its just a dumb TV. And no it doesn't even need it's WiFi.
Furrion TVs aredumb TVs. Made for Campers, but Iive in an apartment and works like a normal TV.
Exactly! May be we don't find dumb tv ever after it seems..
Much rather have an Android box. Plus gives the option to move the box to another TV, bring to friends home, etc, if needed.
Agree 100%! Visio SUCKS!!! Their "app store" has nothing to offer....they are super slow with terrible wifi reception. I wound up buying a firestick lite and plugging it into the hdmi port....... I wish I had invested in a passive 3D "dumb" tv or monitor.....kudos on a great video. Subscribed as soon as I heard you say that visio sucks!
Specificity point is spot on. We don’t need software on a tv unless they fully implement Apple TV or other preferred 3rd party software. However since they implement ads, we will never see the internal smart function of television have the option to manually disable.
The fact that 99.999999% of smart tvs get immediately mogged by a dumb tv with Raspberry pi with kodi on it is very telling
i bought a plasma tv second hand, crazy how good quality the picture and built in speakers are compared to modern tvs. hands down my favourite way to watch
honestly if they did smart tvs correctly i would actually buy one. one that turns into an ambient computing device, is actually responsive to user inputs and configurations, but yeah this just benefits the consumer not the corporation so we wont see those benefits.
The worst thing is the Software, the tv quality is fantastic but it has an outdated software
still using a LG 720p plasma as my monitor. When its time to upgrade...It'll be buying a smart tv and never hooking it up to the net ever...or simply making my way through used plasmas until I find something I like. Any thoughts on doing surgery on smart tv's to lobotomize them? You know...removing the cameras and microphones? Thanks...
I hate them. I just wanted to play Xbox and my TV needed an update???? WHAT. so then I just hooked it up to my PC monitor. No problem.
When I disable WiFi - my Fire based Toshiba shuts down all the fancy UI BS and allows me to choose my Input. Good.
After trying many options, best one is to actually have a PC running Linux connected to "dumb" TV (or smart TV without network access). I've build myself HTPC with cheap older hardware for under 100$ and it even has 1TB drive so i can save some stuff locally. Raspberry Pi could work too, but it costs over 100$ to get 4GB model with case and everything. Performance wise it's much slower than any decent x86 CPU. There are ITX boards with integrated CPU which can work with passive cooling and don't use a lot of power, those are perfect for this.
I also use a monitor and a Shield TV, also because in Italy, if you own a device that receives TV signal, you have to pay an annual fee of about 105$ to the state!
I was looking for a 4K monitor for a Geochron. A good 42" monitor was a bit over $600. A TV from the same manufacturer with the same screen type was $350. Clearly, the TVs are subsidized somehow. I bought the TV and never connected it to the Internet. The only annoyance is that when I turn it on, it says that it hasn't been set up. I just exit and enjoy the view.
I've hated the idea of smart TVs from the start but it's hard to get 'dumb' TVs here now.
I believe Sony offers a setup option in which you can setup the TV as a dumb TV, but these TV's cost a small fortune for most people
the dislikes are from people who are watching this video on their smart TV
It's probably the smart TV itself
This is why my next TV is going to be a PC Monitor. No bloatware, no smart features, just 43 inches of excellent screen quality at 4K 120Hz for console gaming and 144Hz for PC gaming.
I don't like smart tvs either and am trying to find a 42 inch dumb tv.
I was told not to hook up the Internet for my TV. Also, it gets slower and slower. You ended up buying a new one in about 3-4 years. My old dumb CRT tv lasted for 10 years.
Fully agree (and the reasons I wasn't aware of (a few small points) reafirm my reason for sticking to my old 1080p tv instead of upgrading to 4k and being broke for 2 months even with a smart tv (also you forgot ultrasonic cross device tracking which most definitely is being used even if you don't connect your tv to the internet to sell your data through your phone
Thank you for all your hard work.
I use my dumb TV for casting youtube and sling... all the other crap in it isn't used. pihole seems to block a lot of its attempts to "call home"
I have a Roku TV. Aside from UA-cam, Spotify, and gaming, I don't use it for anything else. Was pretty creeped out that it has the ability to target ads based on the content of connected devices and streaming apps. Needless to say, I turned that off real quick.
What did you do to turn it off
@@Patelivision Go to settings. Go to privacy. Make sure limit ad tracking is turned on. There's also another setting regarding ACR. Make sure that is checked off.
@@EdwardPHandsBasedManchild thank you
Ive gone through over 30 smart TVs.
TCL is the best I dont care what anyone says. They have the best UI, never glitched on me, been rheough all whether, constant updates, great HDR, great sound, many ports.. Ibreally enjoy my TCL.
Samsung, LG, Panasonic, Sony, they all suck!
Well Sony TV arent to bsd, just way to expensive.
This channel is ahead of it's time
My smart tv tries to identify devices plugged into it so it can optimize settings. This process takes about 5 minutes every time the hdmi is switched around. I have to switch the hdmi often because of how few ports it has. The UA-cam app almost never works. This isn't a cheap tv either, vost me 1500 bucks
My new tv remote does not even have a source button. I have to go through 4 pages of menus showing me random bullshit just to change from ps5 to pc. And on top of that if I leave it paused for a long period of time it will jjst start playing something I never clicked on.
Agree, am sorry I got one
Love my TV but the "smart" aspect of it is extremely underwhelming. It's a 2018 model and the os doesn't even use android so everything is crappy samsung store stuff, I don't even think it's being supported any more. I would love to be able to flash a custom os on it though and run like arch linux or something on it.
lol so you can say: BTW I use arch on my tv
@@dnawalahmed2979 I mean why not just treat it like a Raspberry Pi
Thank you for this! i never fell for the whole, "it will make your life easier and more convenient" bs. I haven't bought a TV because they all seem to have these same 'features' that i do not want anywhere in my house. Same with Alexa or Google's version.
Years ago when a smart TV was all that was available, we opened it and found the WIFI card quite obvious, simply removed it. Does this still work?
Varies greatly. Many designs are based on single-board computers that have integrated/onboard wifi.
this is an interesting video! i had a dumb tv that was a hand-me-down that my family had for 10 years. it (finally) broke last month and i had to buy a new one, and in a hurry and budget i bought a firetv and changed all of the data settings before using it, although i prefer to use the roku from my old TV since we don't have cable anymore (that probably is another privacy concern, yikes). i didn't realize until searching for a new tv that 99% of tvs were smart and that it was borderline impossible to not buy a smart tv.
Just for the jokes i searched for "LCD TV" and then for "dumb TV" on amazon, surprisingly amazon knew exactly what i meant by "dumb TV" and showed me normal TVs, with sum bs like clothes mixed in but still alot less smart TVs😂
@@thatguywiththeak820 Haha nice
Yes!
I just want an old CRT like had back in the 90s.
Blame Netflix, Amazon, Apple and Disney for requiring DRM-certified smart TVs or other devices to watch their content.
You can always block the offending traffic coming out of a smart TV, but you can't make a non-certified device play DRM-locked content.
I have a 1080p TV from like 9 years ago. Looking at smart TVs I noticed that the computer chip that has the smart features just takes too long to boot up and enjoy my content, whether it's game from my PC or Xbox. I get pushed away from the newer televisions.
This is not good lol. I was hoping for some dumb tv suggestions, but you only advised how to mitigate the issues with smart ones. And the problem is only getting worse. IoT is becoming a reality. Can't wait for my toaster to be hacked and burn my house down.
Not only that but they update and change the entire menu so you as a consumer have to re-learn how to operate the television or worse take away features that were usefull (LG I'm talking to you, just quit it, quit it!) I wish you could just get a basic television just designed to show your sources with the best resolution available at a price point without paying all the licencing and nonsense crap you don't want.......didn't we learn from the bloat when buying a new computer....no we didn't, we just don't want to give the consumer a choice.
Streaming apps are useful but first time i got an smart tv hoping it will be like a tablet i got really annoyed by the massive bunch of ads at home screen
vizio took over my over the air channels through the "free tv" app with their latest firmware update I Hate them
I have a VIZIO TV, I read somewhere that if you do a factory reset, then just bypassed the internet log in and went straight to the antenna set up. It worked for me, got all my channels back where before with their "smartcast" it missed some of the channels in the menu even though the scan picked them up.
Point is , just bypass logging in to the internet and go straight to the TV part .
I think the "smartcast " was forced on us so they can make money with the ads that were placed there in the channel guide,.. Oh, by the way, I WILL NEVER, NEVER EVER BUY A VIZIO PRODUCT AGAIN
And what about the TVs that use any nearby open WiFi when you don’t add it to your network?
I am with you on that, I rather a monitor over a TV.
Better hurry up and buy one before they all become smart monitors as well!
@@AUA-camChannelwithNoName Lol.
TV's actually don't make sense to have anymore. I don't watch regular TV so all I really need is Netflix, Prime Video and some other smaller streaming services. A giant monitor with a raspberry pi would probably work fine for that.
I stream with Kodi fuck Netflix and the rest
Is a raspberry pi what Henry is using? What is it? 6:03
How would a rPi be able to play DRM-locked Netflix or Prime Video?
Totally agree my list of annoying issues.
1. Having to update the tuning every time I switch on the TV due to new channels - I have never seen any new channel.
2. Remote not working 1st to break
3. Apps not working and unsupported 2nd to break
4. Time it takes to control anything. Everything takes 20 plus seconds to boot up.
5. To top it off the worst thing is the rubbish that is on TV these days! Everything is a repeat or some low budget reality rubbish.
Why do I bother?
PS - just thought of another one - Subscriptions!!!
Thank you! For this video!
It is so true. I connected an USB led light strip into the USB port behind my Sony smart TV. Common sense would say that once the tv shuts off the USB port would not have any current. Well, I shut off the tv at night and during the evening..I am not lying but the lights turn on and off at random during the night. So the tv is turning on and off for some reason without the screen turning on. So it must be something fishy about that. So I shut off any and all features that function in the background. I removed the camera and the microphone. I connected the tv via wired network and unplug it when not streaming
I agree also good job ❤🧡💛💚
If you have a "smart" tv you wish to keep offline, is it OK to periodically turn the wifi on and then off again for firmware updates?
Why do you need to "update" your TV? Think how stupid that sounds lol. Just don't even hook it up to the net and you'll never even know about these "updates". From what I've been reading in this comment section, updates seem to take a long time (hours I've been reading, WTF???), screw your settings up and I've even been reading it makes their tv slower.
Remember those heavy 80 pound tube tvs? They never had software, no updates and they always lasted so long that usually by the time you want to replace it it's just because it's so old and you just want a bigger one, not because it stopped working. These TVs now a days suck, can't even last 10 years. Pathetic garbage tech.
Snowden files, yup smart tv's suck.
I like to watch UA-cam on my smart TV. I could cast this video to it. But, I have Chicago PD playing.