Wow RF. I used it in Brooklyn growing up with my nes genesis and SNES, I remember getting a new TV with S video when I bought an N64 and using the cable with my SNES, I couldn't believe the difference and it started my journey to get the best possible picture out of my consoles
Being a European and having kept all my old consoles and cables from back in the day, I don't think I'll have any issues with the scart cables I have since they are all official cables purchased from brick and mortar stores from back in the day. Never even knew that there were issues with modern scart cables.
@@phreeze83 I’ve only seen scart without all the pins on adapters, which makes sense since you would only connect composite cables into them. But honestly, the biggest use for scart back in the day was being able to connect to any European tv & have the console work automatically instead of faffing about with the channels to find the one which one it was outputting to.
@@knightsabre2k That is only really a thing on rf (or maybe some budget models so old they don't have an OSD), in the US most sets I have seen just have an input select button
@@knightsabre2k Stores like retrogamingcables make their own C-SYNC RGB SCART cables to force C-Sync on consoles that output composite sync, which is anything bar Sega
Hahhah. Check out Retro Gaming Cables RGB cables. They surpass easily all of those cables which came along with those retro consoles. They even have circuit boards inside the SCART part. Used them for years now and I'm not looking back. And now with the Rad2x models which uses HDMI on retro consoles they are looking tad better and are compatible with never televisions which don't have SCART anymore.
I was spoiled in the 90's with a 35" JVC TV with S-Video on all the consoles we bought from the SNES upward. I thought regular composite looked like a smeared mess once I got that glorious S-video cable.
This is the first time I've seen anyone take the time to carefully explain the issues with CSync. I have some Luma for Sync cables that I'll keep using but I'm going to ditch the "boosted" sync cable I got for my Model 2 Genesis. Thanks for the explanation Bob!
Glad I could help! Also, if you have a soldering iron and a multimeter, you can just remove the sync stripper and add a resistor and capacitor in it's place. Check out the video linked in the description for more details.
Thanks for taking our advice on keeping the thumbnail! It's honestly perfect! And that Brinstar music is a banger. I need to check out the metal MSU-1 still.
Thanks for the extra info. I have purchased all necessary HD retrovision cables for my setup, but I still learned new info here. I am certainly glad I don't really need to worry about scart cable issues with all the retrotink/scaler options available for my humble collection.
Seen the MLiG vids 100s times, but still learned something from this video. Thanks for the efforts! Beside all this, there’s also the commodore connectors with their DIN-plugs. Also funny as a european, how America don’t know SCART, so strange it never got overseas. I also wonder where sync is on the component, gonna look that up!
Thanks for this video, you corrected me on some things. I always thought s-video and component were roughly similar in quality, and that SCART was the end-all-be-all for video quality. I've never had a CRT with both s-video and component inputs so I could never do a direct comparison. With that said, SCART is a major pain in the butt for anyone living in North America unless you want to play on a tiny PVM, so it's good to hear that good quality RGB-to-component cables like HD Retrovision give the same video quality as SCART. That being said, if you're going the CRT route, the choice of CRT is very important, if not, arguably more important than the input method. A console hooked up with composite to a good quality Sony Trinitron will look WAY better than the same console hooked up with composite to a random lesser quality CRT.
I am from England, I recently bought the Wii RGB SCART cable from Retro Gaming Cables it's the CSYNC one and works just fine on my 2 CRTs and looks fantastic very sharp, even thinking about buying their GameCube and PlayStation 2 SCART cables the latter being the GunCon variant
Thanks for the video. I was interested in understanding why discrete electrical components were needed outside the console for SCART. Your explanation made sense. So that I do not have to buy separate shielded SCART cables for each of my systems, I was thinking of building adapters. For example, a 9-pin mini DIN to SCART adapter that contained the 75 ohm resistors and 220uf caps required for the Genesis 2/32x. Plug that into the sega and then use a high quality shielded SCART cable to the upscaler. Build similar rgb adapters for each system and reuse the cable.
Hey Bob, Love the content as always. Wonder if you would maybe consider doing a guide for beginners/noobs? You go into a lot of details about what cables etc people should use for their setups. However, the scene is getting younger and younger and I think you should maybe do a video on what you think the best option is for this user base e.g direct to flat panel from composite only plus a composite switcher as budget and then maybe option is mid-range choice either HD Retro cables or Scart Cables plus Tink2x from scart or component version etc. Maybe dare I say it.... some kind of tier list I loved the video but from the initial RF part where you stated maybe hitting it up to a VCR I doubt most of the younger scene folk have ever even seen one ha ha!
Thanks! This is actually the first of many "getting started" videos I'll be doing. I'll also be completely redoing the "getting started" section of the website. This stuff is REALLY time consuming though, so it'll probably take the rest of the year to finish.
I think something everyone should keep in mind is that if you do not have a quality power supply/official power supply then it can introduce video interference. I had a cheap 2 in 1 power supply for my snes and it created wavy lines on the screen from top to bottom. It also created sound issues. One I got an official snes power supply then it went away.
I'm honestly kinda shocked Bob got that wrong. MLiG did a better job explaining it years ago (around eight minutes in): ua-cam.com/video/LAlrdCBjUAQ/v-deo.html
It's still a great visualization of what the voltage looks like: "See the cvbs signal? csync is JUST the voltage part of that, at about the same level." I'm pretty sure I said something like "maybe it's..." to show that I'm just speculating. Even if I'm 100% wrong, that wasn't the point - I needed to separate the terms "composite video as sync" and "composite sync" and I accomplished that.
I know this was meant to be an introductory video and want to avoid complexity as much as possible, but when introducing RGB I think it would be very educational to clarify from the beginning that RGB and SCART are not a necessary marriage, even though it's by far the most common pairing in the retro game field. A brief mention of HD-15 ("VGA") and BNC as alternatives for delivering the same kind of RGBS signals as SCART would be very useful to start informing people of the possibility of not depending on SCART and its disadvantages to enjoy the benefits of RGB quality. Perhaps this can be a topic for its own video later :)
@@RetroRGB I think you replied to the wrong comment, or somehow misread mine. My comment was about non-SCART RGB cable options and that mention of this would be educational, or better yet a separate video on the topic.
I'm looking to build a DIN-5 to S-Video cable for my Atari 800, which outputs separate chroma and luma from its monitor port along with composite video on a separate line and audio on yet another line. This video has helped a bit but also added confusion with all that stuff about SCART. Mine is a U.S. NTSC system, so I'm really not interested in that.
This is great. One thing i would like to see is the difference between using the really good component cables vs the cheap ones. Ive never found a good cheap OG Xbox component cable, but cheap ones for PS2 and Wii seem to be very good indeed to my eyes, tests would no doubt tell me otherwise
Good suggestion. There's just as much interference as with bad SCART cables, but the interference can often be slightly different. I'll add that to my list :)
Poorly made component cables (as in YPbPr) can exhibit poor green color balance with everything else. So your picture can appear more green than it should.
I've just recently stumbled over your website and channel and the collection of information you have is amazing!! I learned a lot and appreciate it! BUT, as being European, I have to give you some improvement feedback: Your channel is *really* US focussed :) For us in Europe, SCART was THE thing grewing up. Saying "What the heck is this cable??" or "99% would not use SCART", is really, sorry, stupid and incorrect. Are we in Europe just 1%? I (and all my friends) have always been using real SCART cables for our SNES, PS1 and I even think also our Dreamcast, iirc. Also, I stumbled over your website trying to understand what the best scaler would be for me. And following the RGBGuide, it again really reads written for the US folks only. It took me a while to understand that if I already have SCART: I'm happy and I simply get an 2x-scart or OSSC to connect it to my hdmi display. Again, I really appreciate the work you put in and the collection of knowledge u put on the website, but we're more than1% ;)
LOL, yeah, I figured I need to educate us 'mericans, cause people in Europe already get it :) Your conclusion is correct though: As long as you use a RetroTINK or OSSC and don't connect the SCART cable directly to a flat panel, you're winning. I plan on updating the whole guide this year though! ...and thanks for the kind words! I'll get better, I promise!
I would be interested in adapters that let me use two video signals at the same time from any given console. At least when I had a working CRT TV, something that allowed me to use composite video but also get S-video or RGB sourced to a scaler/line multiplier for video capture/streaming simultaneously
I just buy all my cables from retro access and I know I'm good to go. I go straight from the console to rgb bnc into a pvm20m2u. No scaler, no lag, no image loss.
Cool. I've been feeling out on retro gaming. I even caved and got xStation because I wanted to play games not available on PSN. I use S video for my CRT but it has those "Jail Bars." It'll do for now
If you're getting jailbars with S-Video, it means the cable you're using isn't shielded. I ran into the same issue with cheap Saturn and SNES S-Video cables. Unfortunately, I don't have a good source for PlayStation S-Video cables. Maybe try to find original Sony ones?
I've got a csync related question about the HDretrovision cables. I know you aren't the seller or anything, but it's right up your alley. These RGB to component cables use composite for sync, but I'm curious if you could feed them 75ohm csync along the same pin and still get component out. This is for a game gear with an LCD mod. the LCD outputs RGB, but not composite. I can wire the 75ohm csync to the composite pin of a genesis2 jack if it would work. Thanks!
Three of my SDTV consoles hooked to my CRT officially support Component. Been pondering if I should bite the bullet and upgrade the other two with a Component switch (currently only the Wii is hooked via Component, with the Xbox and PS2 using S-Video). I’ve actually got the switch already (bought it at a Goodwill, I think) but I never integrated it in any of my setups. There are probably more that do (I think the Saturn can with an aftermarket cable). Also LMAO at hooking up a system via R/F only to connect the VCR itself to a RetroTink 5X. Buying a $275 scaler to hook your system up via R/F is quite a gulf (I’m not being derogatory, disclaimer, I just find the act of doing so humorous).
I've always appreciated the crispness of RGB output from a Sega Megadrive/Genesis but recently, composite output really attracts me considering you have dithering effect with that. Plus game designers in Japan seemed to work a lot with that artefact in mind. I've done quick researches and from what I understand the "cleaness" of composite output might depend a lot from comb filtering. Is comb filtering depending from the TV or does it rely on the output chip SONY CXA1145 ? Sorry if I'm not clear. Thanks.
Comb filtering is on the target device, not the console. But I agree - I usually stick with RGB, but some games (especially early 3D graphics games) do look better in composite when played on a CRT. LOL, composite is never better on a flat-panel though :)
Can you help me? So I’ve seen RGB cables but they look similar to component except they come with a yellow cable instead. Can I connect RGB cables to component?
I don't know for sure, but those sound like RGBs RCA cable. They're sending RGB, not component, so no, that wouldn't work. You can try though...just only try for a second and if it doesn't get a proper signal, power the console off right away.
Is there any way to know if your CRT is getting an RGB signal? My 14 inch PAL CRT from the early 00s says RGB but my mid to late 90s 24 inch CRT doesn’t say it. The RGB SCART works and it looks fairly clean but I’m not 100% certain if it’s using the composite signal in the SCART or if it is proper RGB. I like the larger screen though. My 7 year old daughter is playing Sonic 2 on it right now with the Mega Drive (aka Genesis in the US).
You didn't touch on one point with CSYNC that I stumbled across while trying to DIY scart cables: If you are running TTL CSYNC down the length of the cable and attenuating it at the SCART end, then you've replaced one interference problem with another: instead of the high-frequency chroma signal easily coupling into the RGB lines, now you have the high-*amplitude* CSYNC signal coupling into the audio lines.
@@RetroRGB Right, I was just saying that using csync in place of composite or luma doesn't actually eliminate the interference problem, it replaces it with another interference problem. Cables with good internal shielding don't have either problem.
I have a hard time seeing the difference between s-vid and component/RGB so i always go s-vid if possible. Its sooooo much beter then composite if your not on a crt
Can you do an update video on ps1/ps2 component cables and which is the best currently? The HD retro vision cables seem to be out of manufacturing/not made anymore as of 2024. Thanks!
The HD Retrovisions are still made, just temporarily out of stock. And they're still by far the best option. Amazon and Rondo links here: www.retrorgb.com/playstation2.html
I have a n64, wii(I use for gamecube as well) and a ps2. I was thinking of getting 2 hd retrovision component cables for wii and ps2 as well as a retrotink 5x which comes with an s-video cable for my n64, this sounds like a good setup right?
So i can buy a good scart cable and hook it up to my 5x-pro and my non modded ntsc snes and I'll get rgb? I figured when i got my 5x and the s video didn't work with the compsite scart adapter that there would be no way in hell that it would output rgb if it couldn't do s video.
@@RetroRGB i was just really surprised that the adapter had s video on it and it didn't work. But being able to use rgb scart so I can have 4 components hooked up to a switch and 1 rgb scart is even better. I though all scart was only for Europe.
You said that you would be doing videos about which cables are best for which consoles, but I can't find the videos. Are they named something different than "Best cable for SNES" etc?
11:27 - what's the name of the SCART to RCA composite/RCA Audio adapter you show in this shot? I have a Sega Genesis 1, and it seems like this might be the right thing to connect it to my Sony 20" CRT - which is limited to RF, and composite video/audio L&R RCA inputs. Or am I misunderstanding the requirements? Thanks!
It's just a generic one from eBay. This will get audio from any SCART source, but it will only pass composite video if the RGB SCART cable uses composite video for sync.
I'm still trying to find a cable/box to convert the 25 pin DSUB "Computer" input on my Sony PVM 2530 to "Component" so I can hook up anything I have that can output a component signal like PS2/PS3 etc.
You’ll need a combination of this: www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/sony-pvm/sony-pvm-scart-converter?tracking=5543fb4c077bb …and the Comp2RGB from this page: www.retrorgb.com/retrotink.html If you don’t have a SCART cable, this is a great way to connect them: www.retrorgb.com/hd15-2-scart-adapter.html
@@RetroRGB Wow. Thanks for the reply! I wasn't expecting it. I've said I needed this on a few other vids before but never got a response. So, I've seen the SCART solution before but since I'm in the USA, I didn't give it a second thought. Let me ask you this, is there a HD15 to DB25 solution available or would I have to go through SCART anyway? The reason I ask is I have a bunch of component to VGA cables lying around I use to hook up things with component out to monitors and projectors with a VGA input. For the hell of it since I have a bunch, I sacrificed one of them by removing the HD15 and soldered on a DB25 using the pinout diagram in the PVM-2530 manual but all I got was the green signal. The HD15 to Component cables are simple and only use 4 out of the 15 pins of the HD15 (R, G, B, and Ground) but the DB25 Computer input on the PVM has a few other pins it uses in addition to R G B labeled V-sync, H-sync, Blanking, TTL, Luminance, and RGB Mode that's probably needed for it to work. Sorry for being long winded. I appreciate the advice and links!
Fun fact: I had 5 screens in my car back in 2002 or so. One being a PS1 with the folding screen. I cut the video wire and spliced using AV splitters and cut AV cables to connect it to all my screens. Back then you couldn’t tell the video quality difference because the screens weren’t LCD, they were TFT. That was popular back then lol.
I'm curious what option I should go with in regards to my GameCube and my retrotink. I'd assume Component cables would do well, but then the question is which ones? There's a lot of different GameCube component cables.
@@RetroRGB The 5x Pro. Just ordered it recently. The only other console I'm not setup with yet is my Dreamcast. Waiting for the cables at retrogaming uk to come in eventually.
Easy answer. It's gonna sound complicated, but I promise you, it's easy: - Carby HDMI adapter: insurrectionindustries.com/product/carby-v2/ - HDMI to Component converter: retrorgb.link/cheapdac It's a great solution that covers all ground. Also, here's what you need for the Dreamcast (either one): retro-access.com/products/dreamcast-15khz-31khz-480i-480p-scart-cable?variant=17095604207667?aff=3 www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/SEGA-DREAMCAST-RGB-SCART-CABLE-WITH-480P-MODE?tracking=5543fb4c077bb
@@RetroRGB Yeah it just sucks that it isn't stock right now, but I can wait. In regard to the Dreamcast cables. I can use the Carby by itself right? I'd assume I'd just plug it into my GameCube then my TV and that's it.
@@RetroRGB Oh so it is a matter of which TV you have, and of course the console/game resolution (Because PAL games output at 576i, while NTSC ones at 480i). So, with most PAL TVs I think you can play both PAL and NTSC games by using an RGC cable, because it basically neglects the colour type, it kinda bypasses it if I have understood it correctly. And I think (from what I realize), that if the PAL tv has a 50 Hz refresh rate, when you play an NTSC game via RGB scart, it automatically gets to 60 Hz (from 50Hz it has as a basic rate).
These days I'm setting up a Wii. It works so far but I'm using a sub par solution, which is a cheap hdmi adapter. It results in crushed colors and slight checkerboard artefacts on the pictures. The signal conversion is made through the little adapter so I don't have any latency. Well I want to change for RGB Scart but also keep it simple. As for older consoles my TV only accepts RGB Scart cables (I'm French, it was the standard here). It's a flat panel, so if I understood well, I will encounter picture latency if I wire the Scart cable directly into the TV ports. So I need to get a device that is able to convert the analog signal from the console, into a digital one to avoid such issues. What would be a good scaler for that ? And if I buy a good RGB Scart cable, will compatibility problems be a common occurrence or am I good to go ? Not looking for a perfect output but just a good one while keeping it simple. Thanks.
i have a TV that disables composite when i plug in s-vid and component. i do have a use for composite, but can't use it for those reasons (currently using s-vid for snes/64 and component for ps2/wii). only other option is front AV, hated using it for aesthetic purposes. would it be possible to use an s-vid Y split cable to allow two s-vid devices in 1 port on the TV, have an actual s-vid device on 1 side of the Y cable and then an s-vid to composite cable on the other end of the Y cable?
No, definitely don’t do that. You could blow out your TV or consoles. Best to just put it on a wheel cart, spin it around and connect whichever cables you need.
Question : You said that 480p over component cables will look great on modern TVs using a cheap zero-lag converter... Does "modern TVs" mean "flat panels"? Also, what about games that don't support 480p but which run on a 480p console like the Wii? Do they need something better than a simple component to HDMI converter?
Yes and yes. Check out the RetroTINK Multiformat video for info on what to do with 480i signals, but 480p and up only require a cheap component to HDMI converter, like the ones linked in my Amazon store.
14:50 Question: I use a PS2 scart cable I got from retrocablesuk for my PS1. There is no visible picture issues that I can tell, no brightness or color bleeding etc. However, that cable doesn't have the capacitors built into the scart cable according to retrocablesuk. At 14:50, you say it could "possibly damage scart equipment". What "scart equipment" do you mean exactly? I have 2 gscarts and a gcomp, are you saying all three of those could get damaged, the PS1 console, or my PVM or CRT, or everything I am using including other scart cables? SuperG himself said I could use the PS2 scart cable I am currently using, and there would be no damage to the gscarts or gcomp. Please clarify, I don't know anything about voltage or technical know hows and can't seem to get a straight answer on this. It would save me about $50 to not have to order a new attenuated PS1 scart cable if I can just keep using the PS2 scart cable on my PS1. Thanks!
I wonder if the scart cable that comes with the NESRGB kit has a sync stripper? Could not get that cable to work, ordered a more simple cable and no problems.
For something like the Retrotink 5x where it only has 2 audio RCA jacks, what is the appropriate way to handle a scenario where one console may be outputting S-Video (N64) and one may be outputting RGB over component (Genesis) where both would need to use the audio jacks? Unplug and switch the audio each time, or could you plug the audio jacks into an RCA switcher and select the input for the appropriate console? I feel like this would be safe if you only used audio on the switcher, but I could be wrong, or maybe there is a better solution.
You can use Y-cables with the audio, but not the video. Check out the RT5x launch video. And if you're a nerd like me, check out the video with Ste explaining why it's safe for audio and not video: ua-cam.com/video/nwNrqIjxBaA/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/DHoA2vVZh8Q/v-deo.html
Hi Bob, I recently upgraded my Component CRT to a PVM-14L2 monitor. My entire setup relies on HDRerovision Component cables. Unfortunately, L2 monitors have an issue with Componentvin where the LPF is out of phase, causing an over sharpening of the image. You can correct this issue by going into the service menu and and changing the DEC LPF to 0. But, the L2 monitor does not allow to save this setting into ram, making you constantly changing this setting every you turn ON the monitor or reset a console. The only solution I can think of is using the RetroTINK COM2RGB transcoder. But because I use HDRetrovision cables, I hate the idea of going from RGB to Component, and then back to RGB. I feel like there could be a loss of image quality going down this route. What’s your take on this and what do you recommend?
Hey Bob, I was wondering if you could answer some questions I have about a potential signal chain that I had in mind. I want to hook up a NTSC-J N64 I have to my PAL CRT and was gonna go with S-Video. The chain would look something like N64 > Koryuu > Comp2RGB > Voultar Double Penetration > SCART to CRT and DVI to Datapath E2S. Is it ok to hook up my Japanese N64 to my PAL CRT? And is the Retrotink Comp2RGB fully compatible with PAL CRTs when it comes to sync voltage and voltage for the blanking pin?
Hi Bob, thank you for the great video! I had a quick question. I have a PVM that I use a BNC to Scart cable with. The cable is Scart female. I want to buy a Scart switcher so is there a female to male Scart connector that won't interfere with the signal, or do I need to buy another BNC to Scart male cable? Thank you
You could buy another cable, or use one of these: www.retrorgb.com/open-source-scart-coupler.html I'd just choose whichever is best for your overall setup.
@@DrClaw77 That’s weird because they do sell the S-video plugs on their website. The 75 Ohm cable is the same they use for all their products. Unfortunately, Insurrection don’t use 75 Ohm S-video cables. However, they claim the quality is the same with their standard shielded cables.
If I want to play on my crt tv the picture is shifted to the left via RGB scart, and there is no way to adjust horizontal position on my tv (not in service menu, and no knobs inside on the board) is this something you can manage with a proper cable? or maybe some other ways to fix that?
It’s possible the cable is the issue, but if you can, try a different console. Like, if you were trying PS1, try SNES (or something) instead. If it happens with multiple consoles, it’s not the cable.
@@RetroRGB Thank you for your reply, your videos have been so helpful. Also, for a PAL N64, is the Consoles4You PAL S-Video Cable currently the only good option?
Thanks! Without modding, yes....as long as you have the right revision. You can RGB and HDMI mod it if you'd like, but it's pretty complicated. Links to everything: www.retrorgb.com/pal-n64-s-video-cable-available-at-consoles4you.html www.retrorgb.com/n64rgbcompatible.html www.retrorgb.com/pal-n64-s-video-restore-flex-cable.html
@@RetroRGB Your website is amazing, I have been lost down the rabbit hole of reddit trying to find out what works, and your website had all the answers all along. Thank you!
What is the best option for using a PS2 to play PS1 games? My flat screen TV has component inputs, but would component cables provide a sharp enough picture, or do I need a scaler as well?
The best option is connecting the PS2 to a good scaler via component video cables. Here's more info: ua-cam.com/video/TdfFnR-hOK8/v-deo.html ...and here's why it's probably not a good idea to connect component video directly to your flat panel: ua-cam.com/video/jJzN_YHZezY/v-deo.html
If it’s an AV receiver with analog inputs and outputs (no HDMI), then I’m 99% sure it’ll be a great solution. If it offers any kind of scaling to higher resolutions or HDMI outputs, it’ll have all the same problems listed here…probably worse: ua-cam.com/video/TdfFnR-hOK8/v-deo.html Hope that helps!
Hi mate, great video. I'm in the UK and I'm trying to find a male component to female scart. I only have one RGB scart on the back of my CRT TV, but I have an AV receiver with 2 x component in and 1 x component out. So I'd like to run my old DVD player via component and my Wii via component into the AV receiver... then output via component into RGB scart in the back of the TV. Is this possible? Or do you have another option for me? Any help appreciated, cheers!
Thanks. You'd want a Comp2RGB, which does a great job converting the signal: retrorgb.link/comp2rgbuk Links to all RetroTINK products are here, in case that seller is sold out: www.retrorgb.com/retrotink.html ...then you'd just need a SCART cable into the TV. Or if it's positioned correctly, a SCART Coupler: www.retrorgb.com/open-source-scart-coupler.html
what if i use the retrotink 5x with the scart adapter using my composite yellow, red and white? would that get the job done? since the scart has the build in S video inside + me adding composite. enlighten me RetroRGB.
I have a question so I want stream and make a channel playing my old vintage consoles such as nes snes n64 sega dream cat game cube original Xbox ps1 and ps2 I bought the eon GCHD Mk-II however I did not know that not all games are upscale compatible I did however find a way to force the game to run 480p but I don’t really want to do all the extra steps for it so my question is if I get the Retrotink 5x will I run into the same problem? Or will it be able to upscale every game for every console with no issues?
Hi, so is putting the Wii in 480p mode, then using that cheap component to HDMI converter (at 6:10) a good, no-lag solution? If so, say my Wii has homebrew emulators too- would those be no lag as well, assuming I have a good component wire? Thanks! p.s. that also makes me curious what's the difference between the setup I just asked about, or just getting that ElectronWarp - Wii thing? Again, thanks in advance =D
Yes, as long as you’re using quality component cables that’ll work fine. Putting component video through a scaler like an OSSC or RetroTINK 5x would be better, but that’s a big price difference from just the HDMI lagless converter.
Okay now i need some help from community. I am wondering if i can use RGB cable even if i didnt mod Nintendo console? To be short, I am looking for best possible video quality without doing any mods on console. S-Video cable or RGB cable? 😕
THIS is going to be one of those gold-standard videos that everyone getting into retro gaming will be linked to.
Great work, Bob!
Agreed. Thanks Bob for all you do.
Thank you Bob, this is a very helpful guide!
THANK YOU SO MUCH RETRORGB! (I'm still confused as hell by RGB though... 😅)
Bob is here to make everything make sense to us layman.
Wow RF. I used it in Brooklyn growing up with my nes genesis and SNES, I remember getting a new TV with S video when I bought an N64 and using the cable with my SNES, I couldn't believe the difference and it started my journey to get the best possible picture out of my consoles
I like how Bob presented the cable from the best to the worst. RF is the clear winner here for sure!
Being a European and having kept all my old consoles and cables from back in the day, I don't think I'll have any issues with the scart cables I have since they are all official cables purchased from brick and mortar stores from back in the day. Never even knew that there were issues with modern scart cables.
many of them are not RGB but just carry the composite and audio signals ^^ (that's why many of them are missing pins on the output)
@@phreeze83 I’ve only seen scart without all the pins on adapters, which makes sense since you would only connect composite cables into them. But honestly, the biggest use for scart back in the day was being able to connect to any European tv & have the console work automatically instead of faffing about with the channels to find the one which one it was outputting to.
@@knightsabre2k That is only really a thing on rf (or maybe some budget models so old they don't have an OSD), in the US most sets I have seen just have an input select button
@@knightsabre2k Stores like retrogamingcables make their own C-SYNC RGB SCART cables to force C-Sync on consoles that output composite sync, which is anything bar Sega
Hahhah. Check out Retro Gaming Cables RGB cables.
They surpass easily all of those cables which came along with those retro consoles.
They even have circuit boards inside the SCART part.
Used them for years now and I'm not looking back.
And now with the Rad2x models which uses HDMI on retro consoles they are looking tad better and are compatible with never televisions which don't have SCART anymore.
No matter how many times I hear that opening I get hype!
Great video! 😎
Thanks!
Thank you for all your effort and hard work! PS: You picked the correct thumbnail ;-)
Lov ur videos!!
WP is a real champ
Perfect video for the questions i had when getting into retro/moderin gaming collecting
I was spoiled in the 90's with a 35" JVC TV with S-Video on all the consoles we bought from the SNES upward. I thought regular composite looked like a smeared mess once I got that glorious S-video cable.
This is the first time I've seen anyone take the time to carefully explain the issues with CSync. I have some Luma for Sync cables that I'll keep using but I'm going to ditch the "boosted" sync cable I got for my Model 2 Genesis. Thanks for the explanation Bob!
Glad I could help! Also, if you have a soldering iron and a multimeter, you can just remove the sync stripper and add a resistor and capacitor in it's place. Check out the video linked in the description for more details.
Love the info here - also makes me glad I went all-in on component so I don’t have worry/think about anything 😂
Thanks for taking our advice on keeping the thumbnail! It's honestly perfect!
And that Brinstar music is a banger. I need to check out the metal MSU-1 still.
Thanks for the extra info. I have purchased all necessary HD retrovision cables for my setup, but I still learned new info here. I am certainly glad I don't really need to worry about scart cable issues with all the retrotink/scaler options available for my humble collection.
Seen the MLiG vids 100s times, but still learned something from this video. Thanks for the efforts! Beside all this, there’s also the commodore connectors with their DIN-plugs. Also funny as a european, how America don’t know SCART, so strange it never got overseas. I also wonder where sync is on the component, gonna look that up!
Thanks for this video, you corrected me on some things. I always thought s-video and component were roughly similar in quality, and that SCART was the end-all-be-all for video quality. I've never had a CRT with both s-video and component inputs so I could never do a direct comparison. With that said, SCART is a major pain in the butt for anyone living in North America unless you want to play on a tiny PVM, so it's good to hear that good quality RGB-to-component cables like HD Retrovision give the same video quality as SCART.
That being said, if you're going the CRT route, the choice of CRT is very important, if not, arguably more important than the input method. A console hooked up with composite to a good quality Sony Trinitron will look WAY better than the same console hooked up with composite to a random lesser quality CRT.
THANKS!!! FINALLY!!! Some order in this madness! I love it! Thanks for going through the trouble of doing it.
I am from England, I recently bought the Wii RGB SCART cable from Retro Gaming Cables it's the CSYNC one and works just fine on my 2 CRTs and looks fantastic very sharp, even thinking about buying their GameCube and PlayStation 2 SCART cables the latter being the GunCon variant
Thanks!
Thanks so much!
Great video as always. I shall continue my quest to get as many consoles outputting component as I can.
Awesome video! This is a very helpful guide to help me buy the cables I need.
Thanks for the video. I was interested in understanding why discrete electrical components were needed outside the console for SCART. Your explanation made sense. So that I do not have to buy separate shielded SCART cables for each of my systems, I was thinking of building adapters. For example, a 9-pin mini DIN to SCART adapter that contained the 75 ohm resistors and 220uf caps required for the Genesis 2/32x. Plug that into the sega and then use a high quality shielded SCART cable to the upscaler. Build similar rgb adapters for each system and reuse the cable.
Fantastic video for people trying to get into this for real! Certainly a video that will be heavily referred to in the future! Great work man =)
Hey Bob, Love the content as always.
Wonder if you would maybe consider doing a guide for beginners/noobs?
You go into a lot of details about what cables etc people should use for their setups. However, the scene is getting younger and younger and I think you should maybe do a video on what you think the best option is for this user base e.g direct to flat panel from composite only plus a composite switcher as budget and then maybe option is mid-range choice either HD Retro cables or Scart Cables plus Tink2x from scart or component version etc.
Maybe dare I say it.... some kind of tier list
I loved the video but from the initial RF part where you stated maybe hitting it up to a VCR I doubt most of the younger scene folk have ever even seen one ha ha!
Thanks! This is actually the first of many "getting started" videos I'll be doing. I'll also be completely redoing the "getting started" section of the website. This stuff is REALLY time consuming though, so it'll probably take the rest of the year to finish.
@@RetroRGB awesome dude thanks for the reply!
Bob you are awesome!
I think something everyone should keep in mind is that if you do not have a quality power supply/official power supply then it can introduce video interference. I had a cheap 2 in 1 power supply for my snes and it created wavy lines on the screen from top to bottom. It also created sound issues. One I got an official snes power supply then it went away.
Absolutely! I strongly recommend these for all the reasons listed: www.retrorgb.com/triad.html
@@RetroRGB thanks! If one of mine ever goes out then I’ll be sure to take a look at this!
Outstanding content as always.
Cool video Bob!
Nice, thanks Bob!
I thought the 'composite' in CSYNC came from it being the composite of the H and V syncs? Nothing to do with actual composite video.
RGB Master Class gang represent
It is. I don't know why he related it to composite video.
@Em K IronFist What? He is specifically talking about CSYNC and attenuation when he says this.
I'm honestly kinda shocked Bob got that wrong. MLiG did a better job explaining it years ago (around eight minutes in): ua-cam.com/video/LAlrdCBjUAQ/v-deo.html
It's still a great visualization of what the voltage looks like: "See the cvbs signal? csync is JUST the voltage part of that, at about the same level."
I'm pretty sure I said something like "maybe it's..." to show that I'm just speculating. Even if I'm 100% wrong, that wasn't the point - I needed to separate the terms "composite video as sync" and "composite sync" and I accomplished that.
I know this was meant to be an introductory video and want to avoid complexity as much as possible, but when introducing RGB I think it would be very educational to clarify from the beginning that RGB and SCART are not a necessary marriage, even though it's by far the most common pairing in the retro game field. A brief mention of HD-15 ("VGA") and BNC as alternatives for delivering the same kind of RGBS signals as SCART would be very useful to start informing people of the possibility of not depending on SCART and its disadvantages to enjoy the benefits of RGB quality. Perhaps this can be a topic for its own video later :)
I literally showed composite video running through a SCART cable. Twice.
@@RetroRGB I think you replied to the wrong comment, or somehow misread mine. My comment was about non-SCART RGB cable options and that mention of this would be educational, or better yet a separate video on the topic.
Thank you so much for making this helpful video! 💕🙏
I'm looking to build a DIN-5 to S-Video cable for my Atari 800, which outputs separate chroma and luma from its monitor port along with composite video on a separate line and audio on yet another line.
This video has helped a bit but also added confusion with all that stuff about SCART.
Mine is a U.S. NTSC system, so I'm really not interested in that.
This is great. One thing i would like to see is the difference between using the really good component cables vs the cheap ones. Ive never found a good cheap OG Xbox component cable, but cheap ones for PS2 and Wii seem to be very good indeed to my eyes, tests would no doubt tell me otherwise
Good suggestion. There's just as much interference as with bad SCART cables, but the interference can often be slightly different. I'll add that to my list :)
Poorly made component cables (as in YPbPr) can exhibit poor green color balance with everything else. So your picture can appear more green than it should.
I've just recently stumbled over your website and channel and the collection of information you have is amazing!! I learned a lot and appreciate it!
BUT, as being European, I have to give you some improvement feedback: Your channel is *really* US focussed :) For us in Europe, SCART was THE thing grewing up. Saying "What the heck is this cable??" or "99% would not use SCART", is really, sorry, stupid and incorrect. Are we in Europe just 1%? I (and all my friends) have always been using real SCART cables for our SNES, PS1 and I even think also our Dreamcast, iirc.
Also, I stumbled over your website trying to understand what the best scaler would be for me. And following the RGBGuide, it again really reads written for the US folks only. It took me a while to understand that if I already have SCART: I'm happy and I simply get an 2x-scart or OSSC to connect it to my hdmi display.
Again, I really appreciate the work you put in and the collection of knowledge u put on the website, but we're more than1% ;)
LOL, yeah, I figured I need to educate us 'mericans, cause people in Europe already get it :)
Your conclusion is correct though: As long as you use a RetroTINK or OSSC and don't connect the SCART cable directly to a flat panel, you're winning. I plan on updating the whole guide this year though!
...and thanks for the kind words! I'll get better, I promise!
@@RetroRGB Thanks dude! Keep doing this awesome stuff!!
Nice video thanks Bob
I would be interested in adapters that let me use two video signals at the same time from any given console. At least when I had a working CRT TV, something that allowed me to use composite video but also get S-video or RGB sourced to a scaler/line multiplier for video capture/streaming simultaneously
hoping to see you create the videos for each console still.
Me too! They're just so time consuming, it's hard to make happen :(
Europe: our games run slower, but at least we have RGB over SCART.
Haha you made me smile 😊👌. Kudos from Belgium, EU
@@ceberuss_yt8266 You're welcome, from Italy, EU
Pretty sure anyone would gladly take a regular frame rate over RGB.
Germany: 50/60Hz mod soldering job at day one for most consoles :)
RGB-SCART RULES!!!
Yeah your both right!Greetings from Zurich,Switzerland!
I just buy all my cables from retro access and I know I'm good to go. I go straight from the console to rgb bnc into a pvm20m2u. No scaler, no lag, no image loss.
Cool. I've been feeling out on retro gaming. I even caved and got xStation because I wanted to play games not available on PSN. I use S video for my CRT but it has those "Jail Bars." It'll do for now
If you're getting jailbars with S-Video, it means the cable you're using isn't shielded. I ran into the same issue with cheap Saturn and SNES S-Video cables. Unfortunately, I don't have a good source for PlayStation S-Video cables. Maybe try to find original Sony ones?
Thank god I live in Europe (Slovakia) where most TVs (even old CRTs) have a SCART port. 🙏
Great video!
I've got a csync related question about the HDretrovision cables. I know you aren't the seller or anything, but it's right up your alley.
These RGB to component cables use composite for sync, but I'm curious if you could feed them 75ohm csync along the same pin and still get component out.
This is for a game gear with an LCD mod. the LCD outputs RGB, but not composite. I can wire the 75ohm csync to the composite pin of a genesis2 jack if it would work.
Thanks!
Yes, this is exactly what we do on the OpenMVS and the Sega Triple Bypass.
Three of my SDTV consoles hooked to my CRT officially support Component. Been pondering if I should bite the bullet and upgrade the other two with a Component switch (currently only the Wii is hooked via Component, with the Xbox and PS2 using S-Video). I’ve actually got the switch already (bought it at a Goodwill, I think) but I never integrated it in any of my setups. There are probably more that do (I think the Saturn can with an aftermarket cable).
Also LMAO at hooking up a system via R/F only to connect the VCR itself to a RetroTink 5X. Buying a $275 scaler to hook your system up via R/F is quite a gulf (I’m not being derogatory, disclaimer, I just find the act of doing so humorous).
I've always appreciated the crispness of RGB output from a Sega Megadrive/Genesis but recently, composite output really attracts me considering you have dithering effect with that. Plus game designers in Japan seemed to work a lot with that artefact in mind.
I've done quick researches and from what I understand the "cleaness" of composite output might depend a lot from comb filtering.
Is comb filtering depending from the TV or does it rely on the output chip SONY CXA1145 ? Sorry if I'm not clear.
Thanks.
Comb filtering is on the target device, not the console. But I agree - I usually stick with RGB, but some games (especially early 3D graphics games) do look better in composite when played on a CRT. LOL, composite is never better on a flat-panel though :)
For generation 4/5/6 consoles in North America, S-Video with a stereo CRT hits that sweet spot.
What’s the name of the music playing between 5:45 - 9:15? So familiar but I can’t place it for the life of me
6:24 Sometimes it won't show anything at all since a lot of TVs and monitors don't support 480i or 240p(PS1 games on PS2) through HDMI.
I'd be nice to have a video with technical considerations when building your own cables.
Not ganna lie. Imma stick to my YRW cables. Just more uniformed over systems and using different cable types is to complex/expensive
Can you help me? So I’ve seen RGB cables but they look similar to component except they come with a yellow cable instead. Can I connect RGB cables to component?
I don't know for sure, but those sound like RGBs RCA cable. They're sending RGB, not component, so no, that wouldn't work. You can try though...just only try for a second and if it doesn't get a proper signal, power the console off right away.
Is there any way to know if your CRT is getting an RGB signal? My 14 inch PAL CRT from the early 00s says RGB but my mid to late 90s 24 inch CRT doesn’t say it. The RGB SCART works and it looks fairly clean but I’m not 100% certain if it’s using the composite signal in the SCART or if it is proper RGB. I like the larger screen though. My 7 year old daughter is playing Sonic 2 on it right now with the Mega Drive (aka Genesis in the US).
You didn't touch on one point with CSYNC that I stumbled across while trying to DIY scart cables: If you are running TTL CSYNC down the length of the cable and attenuating it at the SCART end, then you've replaced one interference problem with another: instead of the high-frequency chroma signal easily coupling into the RGB lines, now you have the high-*amplitude* CSYNC signal coupling into the audio lines.
While you're correct, that falls into "properly built cables". If I ever do a video on how to make your own cables, I'll go into detail about that.
@@RetroRGB Right, I was just saying that using csync in place of composite or luma doesn't actually eliminate the interference problem, it replaces it with another interference problem. Cables with good internal shielding don't have either problem.
I have a hard time seeing the difference between s-vid and component/RGB so i always go s-vid if possible. Its sooooo much beter then composite if your not on a crt
Can you do an update video on ps1/ps2 component cables and which is the best currently? The HD retro vision cables seem to be out of manufacturing/not made anymore as of 2024. Thanks!
The HD Retrovisions are still made, just temporarily out of stock. And they're still by far the best option. Amazon and Rondo links here: www.retrorgb.com/playstation2.html
Great video as always, Bob! Would you happen to have a Comp Cleaner lying around? I'm dying for one.
No, but another product should be coming out soon that's even better. I'll post as soon as it's ready.
@@RetroRGB Will it work with my RGB E1S?
I have a n64, wii(I use for gamecube as well) and a ps2. I was thinking of getting 2 hd retrovision component cables for wii and ps2 as well as a retrotink 5x which comes with an s-video cable for my n64, this sounds like a good setup right?
Sounds like a GREAT setup.
So i can buy a good scart cable and hook it up to my 5x-pro and my non modded ntsc snes and I'll get rgb? I figured when i got my 5x and the s video didn't work with the compsite scart adapter that there would be no way in hell that it would output rgb if it couldn't do s video.
Is it a SNES Mini/Jr, or a larger original one? Also, PAL or NTSC?
Also, the RT5x’s SCART port only accepts RGB or Composite, not S-Video. Did you try connecting directly ti the S-Video port?
@@RetroRGB i was just really surprised that the adapter had s video on it and it didn't work. But being able to use rgb scart so I can have 4 components hooked up to a switch and 1 rgb scart is even better. I though all scart was only for Europe.
@@RetroRGB i got 2 original ntsc snes one is a 2chip the other is 1chip 02.
Okay, great news - Any of the good cables listed here will work perfect: www.retrorgb.com/snescsync.html
You said that you would be doing videos about which cables are best for which consoles, but I can't find the videos. Are they named something different than "Best cable for SNES" etc?
All of the best cables for each console are linked here: www.retrorgb.com/systems.html
@@RetroRGB I figured that part out. I was just wondering what happened with the video? :)
11:27 - what's the name of the SCART to RCA composite/RCA Audio adapter you show in this shot? I have a Sega Genesis 1, and it seems like this might be the right thing to connect it to my Sony 20" CRT - which is limited to RF, and composite video/audio L&R RCA inputs. Or am I misunderstanding the requirements? Thanks!
It's just a generic one from eBay. This will get audio from any SCART source, but it will only pass composite video if the RGB SCART cable uses composite video for sync.
@@RetroRGB Thanks!
I'm still trying to find a cable/box to convert the 25 pin DSUB "Computer" input on my Sony PVM 2530 to "Component" so I can hook up anything I have that can output a component signal like PS2/PS3 etc.
You’ll need a combination of this: www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/sony-pvm/sony-pvm-scart-converter?tracking=5543fb4c077bb
…and the Comp2RGB from this page: www.retrorgb.com/retrotink.html
If you don’t have a SCART cable, this is a great way to connect them: www.retrorgb.com/hd15-2-scart-adapter.html
@@RetroRGB Wow. Thanks for the reply! I wasn't expecting it. I've said I needed this on a few other vids before but never got a response. So, I've seen the SCART solution before but since I'm in the USA, I didn't give it a second thought. Let me ask you this, is there a HD15 to DB25 solution available or would I have to go through SCART anyway? The reason I ask is I have a bunch of component to VGA cables lying around I use to hook up things with component out to monitors and projectors with a VGA input. For the hell of it since I have a bunch, I sacrificed one of them by removing the HD15 and soldered on a DB25 using the pinout diagram in the PVM-2530 manual but all I got was the green signal. The HD15 to Component cables are simple and only use 4 out of the 15 pins of the HD15 (R, G, B, and Ground) but the DB25 Computer input on the PVM has a few other pins it uses in addition to R G B labeled V-sync, H-sync, Blanking, TTL, Luminance, and RGB Mode that's probably needed for it to work. Sorry for being long winded. I appreciate the advice and links!
You’d need to make something custom for that. If you’re looking for an off-the-shelf solution, those links are about it.
Awesome video and sick guitars to Is that a 8 string 🤘🏻
Thanks! One heavily modified Dave Mustaine Rust In Peace 6-strong V and one 5-string bass; The Peter Iwers (In Flames) model.
Bob keeping shit real.
Fun fact: I had 5 screens in my car back in 2002 or so. One being a PS1 with the folding screen. I cut the video wire and spliced using AV splitters and cut AV cables to connect it to all my screens. Back then you couldn’t tell the video quality difference because the screens weren’t LCD, they were TFT. That was popular back then lol.
I'm curious what option I should go with in regards to my GameCube and my retrotink. I'd assume Component cables would do well, but then the question is which ones?
There's a lot of different GameCube component cables.
Which RetroTINK do you have?
@@RetroRGB The 5x Pro. Just ordered it recently. The only other console I'm not setup with yet is my Dreamcast.
Waiting for the cables at retrogaming uk to come in eventually.
Easy answer. It's gonna sound complicated, but I promise you, it's easy:
- Carby HDMI adapter: insurrectionindustries.com/product/carby-v2/
- HDMI to Component converter: retrorgb.link/cheapdac
It's a great solution that covers all ground. Also, here's what you need for the Dreamcast (either one):
retro-access.com/products/dreamcast-15khz-31khz-480i-480p-scart-cable?variant=17095604207667?aff=3
www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/SEGA-DREAMCAST-RGB-SCART-CABLE-WITH-480P-MODE?tracking=5543fb4c077bb
@@RetroRGB Yeah it just sucks that it isn't stock right now, but I can wait.
In regard to the Dreamcast cables. I can use the Carby by itself right? I'd assume I'd just plug it into my GameCube then my TV and that's it.
Great video!! A question.. Does RGB scart cable support 576i AND 480i resolutions on PAL tvs???
Thanks ! The cable wouldn't determine that, it would be the source and target. But to answer your question, yes, it should.
@@RetroRGB Oh so it is a matter of which TV you have, and of course the console/game resolution (Because PAL games output at 576i, while NTSC ones at 480i). So, with most PAL TVs I think you can play both PAL and NTSC games by using an RGC cable, because it basically neglects the colour type, it kinda bypasses it if I have understood it correctly.
And I think (from what I realize), that if the PAL tv has a 50 Hz refresh rate, when you play an NTSC game via RGB scart, it automatically gets to 60 Hz (from 50Hz it has as a basic rate).
6:00
What is the brand name of the converter used? I tried googling what is written on the converter hoping to find that exact one, but no luck.
They are listed here: retrorgb.link/cheapdac
@@RetroRGB much appreciated!
Bob, where did you get that component through scart adapter from 8:04? I need one for my xrgb-3!!
RetroTink makes one to go with their 5x
These days I'm setting up a Wii. It works so far but I'm using a sub par solution, which is a cheap hdmi adapter. It results in crushed colors and slight checkerboard artefacts on the pictures. The signal conversion is made through the little adapter so I don't have any latency. Well I want to change for RGB Scart but also keep it simple. As for older consoles my TV only accepts RGB Scart cables (I'm French, it was the standard here). It's a flat panel, so if I understood well, I will encounter picture latency if I wire the Scart cable directly into the TV ports. So I need to get a device that is able to convert the analog signal from the console, into a digital one to avoid such issues. What would be a good scaler for that ?
And if I buy a good RGB Scart cable, will compatibility problems be a common occurrence or am I good to go ?
Not looking for a perfect output but just a good one while keeping it simple. Thanks.
Cool new intro. :)
i have a TV that disables composite when i plug in s-vid and component. i do have a use for composite, but can't use it for those reasons (currently using s-vid for snes/64 and component for ps2/wii). only other option is front AV, hated using it for aesthetic purposes. would it be possible to use an s-vid Y split cable to allow two s-vid devices in 1 port on the TV, have an actual s-vid device on 1 side of the Y cable and then an s-vid to composite cable on the other end of the Y cable?
No, definitely don’t do that. You could blow out your TV or consoles. Best to just put it on a wheel cart, spin it around and connect whichever cables you need.
Question : You said that 480p over component cables will look great on modern TVs using a cheap zero-lag converter... Does "modern TVs" mean "flat panels"?
Also, what about games that don't support 480p but which run on a 480p console like the Wii? Do they need something better than a simple component to HDMI converter?
Yes and yes. Check out the RetroTINK Multiformat video for info on what to do with 480i signals, but 480p and up only require a cheap component to HDMI converter, like the ones linked in my Amazon store.
@@RetroRGB Thanks!
14:50 Question: I use a PS2 scart cable I got from retrocablesuk for my PS1. There is no visible picture issues that I can tell, no brightness or color bleeding etc. However, that cable doesn't have the capacitors built into the scart cable according to retrocablesuk.
At 14:50, you say it could "possibly damage scart equipment". What "scart equipment" do you mean exactly? I have 2 gscarts and a gcomp, are you saying all three of those could get damaged, the PS1 console, or my PVM or CRT, or everything I am using including other scart cables? SuperG himself said I could use the PS2 scart cable I am currently using, and there would be no damage to the gscarts or gcomp. Please clarify, I don't know anything about voltage or technical know hows and can't seem to get a straight answer on this. It would save me about $50 to not have to order a new attenuated PS1 scart cable if I can just keep using the PS2 scart cable on my PS1. Thanks!
Not having the capacitors on your PS1 cable shouldn't damage your equipment. You should be okay.
what if needed to use RF but live in a big city ? would putting the system of scalar in a faraday cage help
I wonder if the scart cable that comes with the NESRGB kit has a sync stripper? Could not get that cable to work, ordered a more simple cable and no problems.
@retrorgb do you have any recommended composite cables for the model 2 Genesis? I am really struggling to find a quality one to buy
I got confused... what's the danger of using scart RGB? wanna buy fairly good Trinitron, it has s ideo and scart but not component
If you buy properly built cables, there is no danger. All the ones I link to on RetroRGB.com are safe.
What brand would you suggest to purchase as an S-Video Cable for PS2? I was looking at Insurrection Industries
Super nice Video! But now i really want the Scart-RGB to "any of my scalers" Video!
For something like the Retrotink 5x where it only has 2 audio RCA jacks, what is the appropriate way to handle a scenario where one console may be outputting S-Video (N64) and one may be outputting RGB over component (Genesis) where both would need to use the audio jacks? Unplug and switch the audio each time, or could you plug the audio jacks into an RCA switcher and select the input for the appropriate console? I feel like this would be safe if you only used audio on the switcher, but I could be wrong, or maybe there is a better solution.
You can use Y-cables with the audio, but not the video. Check out the RT5x launch video. And if you're a nerd like me, check out the video with Ste explaining why it's safe for audio and not video:
ua-cam.com/video/nwNrqIjxBaA/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/DHoA2vVZh8Q/v-deo.html
@@RetroRGB great, thank you, I'll check both out!
Hi Bob, I recently upgraded my Component CRT to a PVM-14L2 monitor. My entire setup relies on HDRerovision Component cables. Unfortunately, L2 monitors have an issue with Componentvin where the LPF is out of phase, causing an over sharpening of the image. You can correct this issue by going into the service menu and and changing the DEC LPF to 0. But, the L2 monitor does not allow to save this setting into ram, making you constantly changing this setting every you turn ON the monitor or reset a console. The only solution I can think of is using the RetroTINK COM2RGB transcoder. But because I use HDRetrovision cables, I hate the idea of going from RGB to Component, and then back to RGB. I feel like there could be a loss of image quality going down this route. What’s your take on this and what do you recommend?
Hey Bob, I was wondering if you could answer some questions I have about a potential signal chain that I had in mind.
I want to hook up a NTSC-J N64 I have to my PAL CRT and was gonna go with S-Video. The chain would look something like N64 > Koryuu > Comp2RGB > Voultar Double Penetration > SCART to CRT and DVI to Datapath E2S.
Is it ok to hook up my Japanese N64 to my PAL CRT? And is the Retrotink Comp2RGB fully compatible with PAL CRTs when it comes to sync voltage and voltage for the blanking pin?
All of that stuff sounds fine, expect NTSC -> PAL. You’d need a CRT that’s compatible with both.
@@RetroRGB I see. Thanks Bob!
Would you happen to know what is the quality of those "Innovation" scart cables on eBay for the Sega Dreamcast? Are they true RGB?
Is there any difference in cable quality? Clarity, signal strength, sharpened, etc? Specifically im talking VGA to BNC
Hi Bob, thank you for the great video! I had a quick question. I have a PVM that I use a BNC to Scart cable with. The cable is Scart female. I want to buy a Scart switcher so is there a female to male Scart connector that won't interfere with the signal, or do I need to buy another BNC to Scart male cable? Thank you
You could buy another cable, or use one of these: www.retrorgb.com/open-source-scart-coupler.html
I'd just choose whichever is best for your overall setup.
What's the status of Sega Master System RGB? is there still jailbar problems? is the Master System ever going to look as good as analogues RGB output?
Did Retro-Access discontinue their S-video cable for the SNES and N64? I can’t find it on their website.
They delisted it because of parts availability (likely shortages). The Insurrection one is just as good IMO.
@@DrClaw77 That’s weird because they do sell the S-video plugs on their website. The 75 Ohm cable is the same they use for all their products.
Unfortunately, Insurrection don’t use 75 Ohm S-video cables. However, they claim the quality is the same with their standard shielded cables.
If I want to play on my crt tv the picture is shifted to the left via RGB scart, and there is no way to adjust horizontal position on my tv (not in service menu, and no knobs inside on the board) is this something you can manage with a proper cable? or maybe some other ways to fix that?
It’s possible the cable is the issue, but if you can, try a different console. Like, if you were trying PS1, try SNES (or something) instead. If it happens with multiple consoles, it’s not the cable.
@@RetroRGB thanks for the answer!
Hi Bob! For my OG Xbox, should I buy the RGC Component through SCART cable, or a modded Xbox 360 component cable, with a retrotink 5x? Thanks!
I’d personally get the RGC one, as modded 360 cables have to be made by hand and lots could go wrong. Just my opinion.
@@RetroRGB Thank you for your reply, your videos have been so helpful. Also, for a PAL N64, is the Consoles4You PAL S-Video Cable currently the only good option?
Thanks! Without modding, yes....as long as you have the right revision. You can RGB and HDMI mod it if you'd like, but it's pretty complicated. Links to everything:
www.retrorgb.com/pal-n64-s-video-cable-available-at-consoles4you.html
www.retrorgb.com/n64rgbcompatible.html
www.retrorgb.com/pal-n64-s-video-restore-flex-cable.html
@@RetroRGB Your website is amazing, I have been lost down the rabbit hole of reddit trying to find out what works, and your website had all the answers all along. Thank you!
What is the best option for using a PS2 to play PS1 games? My flat screen TV has component inputs, but would component cables provide a sharp enough picture, or do I need a scaler as well?
The best option is connecting the PS2 to a good scaler via component video cables. Here's more info: ua-cam.com/video/TdfFnR-hOK8/v-deo.html
...and here's why it's probably not a good idea to connect component video directly to your flat panel: ua-cam.com/video/jJzN_YHZezY/v-deo.html
Is connecting all my different retro consoles to an audio video receiver to be a catch all and then to my crt tv ok? Thanks
If it’s an AV receiver with analog inputs and outputs (no HDMI), then I’m 99% sure it’ll be a great solution. If it offers any kind of scaling to higher resolutions or HDMI outputs, it’ll have all the same problems listed here…probably worse: ua-cam.com/video/TdfFnR-hOK8/v-deo.html
Hope that helps!
Hi mate, great video. I'm in the UK and I'm trying to find a male component to female scart. I only have one RGB scart on the back of my CRT TV, but I have an AV receiver with 2 x component in and 1 x component out. So I'd like to run my old DVD player via component and my Wii via component into the AV receiver... then output via component into RGB scart in the back of the TV. Is this possible? Or do you have another option for me? Any help appreciated, cheers!
Thanks. You'd want a Comp2RGB, which does a great job converting the signal: retrorgb.link/comp2rgbuk
Links to all RetroTINK products are here, in case that seller is sold out: www.retrorgb.com/retrotink.html
...then you'd just need a SCART cable into the TV. Or if it's positioned correctly, a SCART Coupler: www.retrorgb.com/open-source-scart-coupler.html
So, when using a retrotink 5x pro, along with hd retrovision cables on a super nes or genesis, is rgb scart needed along with the rest?
Nope, the HD Retrovisions are an alternative to SCART and equal in quality to the best SCART cables (and better than the mid-low quality ones).
@@RetroRGB okay. In other words, I only need hd retrovision cables along with the retrotink only for the best hd picture? Thanks
Yes. Please check the website for links: www.retrorgb.com/systems.html
@@RetroRGB thank you 🙏🏾
what if i use the retrotink 5x with the scart adapter using my composite yellow, red and white? would that get the job done? since the scart has the build in S video inside + me adding composite. enlighten me RetroRGB.
The RT5x's SCART input does not accept S-Video, only RGB and Composite.
What causes and how to fix when using a SCART cable on a HDTV having the image display too far to the right, or too far on the left?
That could be a sync issue, or a bad scaler. You'd need to check your cable and make sure you're using a scaler designed for video games.
with componet I heard only green/luma is in HD blue & red is SD
I have a question so I want stream and make a channel playing my old vintage consoles such as nes snes n64 sega dream cat game cube original Xbox ps1 and ps2 I bought the eon GCHD Mk-II however I did not know that not all games are upscale compatible I did however find a way to force the game to run 480p but I don’t really want to do all the extra steps for it so my question is if I get the Retrotink 5x will I run into the same problem? Or will it be able to upscale every game for every console with no issues?
Hi, so is putting the Wii in 480p mode, then using that cheap component to HDMI converter (at 6:10) a good, no-lag solution? If so, say my Wii has homebrew emulators too- would those be no lag as well, assuming I have a good component wire? Thanks!
p.s. that also makes me curious what's the difference between the setup I just asked about, or just getting that ElectronWarp - Wii thing? Again, thanks in advance =D
Yes, as long as you’re using quality component cables that’ll work fine. Putting component video through a scaler like an OSSC or RetroTINK 5x would be better, but that’s a big price difference from just the HDMI lagless converter.
@@RetroRGB Thank you for the reply. I think I'm gonna order the HD Retrovision Wii cable right now!
Okay now i need some help from community. I am wondering if i can use RGB cable even if i didnt mod Nintendo console?
To be short, I am looking for best possible video quality without doing any mods on console.
S-Video cable or RGB cable?
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Check the console section for info on each: www.retrorgb.com/systems.html