I hope you're enjoying your Weber Duo-Art by now.... I was able to find the same Weber model (1924) back in 2005 that had been restored a few years before. I had some additional work done by an excellent technician. I love listening to it (have a lot of rolls)... my wife also plays. The Weber 5'8" Duo-Art was known as their "WR" model. Mine is from 1924. They are great pianos - beautifully (solidly) built. Weber pianos were and are known for their deep rich tone. Many prefer them to Steinway.
Great roll and superb Weber restoration! Wish I had that roll to work on with my Miller foot pumped upright! A lot of fun putting in expression with the pedals!
Weber beats Steinway any day of the week!! I had a Weber upright built in 1888 and when it was restored it was worth quite a bit, alas, I had to sell it, however, to finish paying off school. The Weber sound of old cannot be duplicated, that's a fact!
I have a 1917 Duo-Art upright Weber. No expense was shared in its construction, top quality materials and regulation. It was very expensive but worth restoration.
I agree! I EXPECT to be transported to another realm when I hear and play a Steinway. I like them and would personally prefer to have a 1098 model for sake of room. But those Webers are truly excellent instruments. They have a wonderful sound and I have found them lovely to play because of their responsiveness. Knabes can be great too.
Thanks John.....You're welcome. The whole Duo-Art mechanism has been rebuilt from scratch, inc the stack. This makes a huge difference in how well it expresses.
When set up properly, the Duo Art action is the best, period. Compared to the electronic rubbish being produced today they are a real treasure.
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the re-cut situation for so long was just devastating to the duo-art's need for absolute precision in the perforations. It's the reason I left duo-art and went to Ampico. Most duo-arts are just not properly adjusted. the test roll is not enough. the vacuum curves are the way to go. Here's a joke: "why were the two Amicans screaming at each other? There was a duo-art playing in the room." It's sad because a well regulated duo-art is a really wonderful thing.
Ótima execução dessa pianola equipada com Duo-Art system, parabéns!! Estou procurando por uma dessas aqui no Brasil, equipada com Duo-Art ou Ampico, mas são muito raras...
a great song and a great rendition. Dad saw Isham Jones' band performing back in the 1920s. Alas, Jones did not have much pizazz or personality as a band leader.,,,the poor guy had a lot of facial scarring and seemed ill at ease in front of crowds. Anyway, no denying this song is as fresh today as when it was composed.
Nope, the rolls like the one in the video weren't even hand played, they were mastered a drafting board where the arranger quite literally just sat and cut holes in a piece of paper. The master was then edited some more, dynamic coding was added and then the master was finally matched to a specific punch rate (in this case around 20 punches per inch). There were hand played rolls that were then subject to the same mastering process, the pianist would play on a marking piano that would mark a paper roll with little pencil like things and then those would be cut out and the rest of the editing would be done.
You've got to remember these rolls were made in the 1920s as dance music and so the tempi of many songs we now hear crooned as ballads were much more up tempo then so you could fox trot to them.
Funny, I was just thinking this was a tune that could be played at almost any tempo - slow and romantic, or hopped up for the dancers of the day. And this arrangement with all its flourishes is meant to be the latter.
I just bought a 1921 Weber Duo-Art 5'8" grand......can't wait to start bringing it back to its full glory!
I hope you're enjoying your Weber Duo-Art by now.... I was able to find the same Weber model (1924) back in 2005 that had been restored a few years before. I had some additional work done by an excellent technician. I love listening to it (have a lot of rolls)... my wife also plays. The Weber 5'8" Duo-Art was known as their "WR" model. Mine is from 1924. They are great pianos - beautifully (solidly) built. Weber pianos were and are known for their deep rich tone. Many prefer them to Steinway.
Splendid…! Congratulations from an spanish pianolist.
Great roll and superb Weber restoration! Wish I had that roll to work on with my Miller foot pumped upright! A lot of fun putting in expression with the pedals!
Thanks!.. the restorer did a great job. ..these Duo-Art fox trots are so much fun...toe-tapping happy smiles fun! :)
Beautiful rendition of one of my favorites!
The song is the greatest
I have the standard 88 note roll from QRS played by Frank MILNE. I like that version but this is great too!
One of my favorite pianos on UA-cam, the You're The Cream In My Coffee piano roll being played on this is awesome!
I have a Weber duo-art that is being restored as I write this....listening to this helps the waiting.
Weber beats Steinway any day of the week!! I had a Weber upright built in 1888 and when it was restored it was worth quite a bit, alas, I had to sell it, however, to finish paying off school. The Weber sound of old cannot be duplicated, that's a fact!
I totally agree. The finest piano I've ever heard is a Weber baby grand built in the '20s.
I have a 1917 Duo-Art upright Weber. No expense was shared in its construction, top quality materials and regulation. It was very expensive but worth restoration.
I agree! I EXPECT to be transported to another realm when I hear and play a Steinway. I like them and would personally prefer to have a 1098 model for sake of room. But those Webers are truly excellent instruments. They have a wonderful sound and I have found them lovely to play because of their responsiveness. Knabes can be great too.
Absolutely Lovely. Thanks!
Many thanks for sharing, especially the stereo version!
Very Nice!! Love that song and your piano is doing a very good job of playing it! Thank You!
Great beat
Thanks John.....You're welcome. The whole Duo-Art mechanism has been rebuilt from scratch, inc the stack. This makes a huge difference in how well it expresses.
When set up properly, the Duo Art action is the best, period. Compared to the electronic rubbish being produced today they are a real treasure.
the re-cut situation for so long was just devastating to the duo-art's need for absolute precision in the perforations. It's the reason I left duo-art and went to Ampico. Most duo-arts are just not properly adjusted. the test roll is not enough. the vacuum curves are the way to go. Here's a joke: "why were the two Amicans screaming at each other? There was a duo-art playing in the room." It's sad because a well regulated duo-art is a really wonderful thing.
I dunno, I feel like the Ampico and especially the Welte Licensee are simply the best because they have crescendos.
Absolutely love it, what a fabulous sound.
A well tuned piano playing a great song.
Thanku
Thanks Mike, that is really the work of my restorer, and I agree! :)
AWESOME!!
LOVE IT.
Glad you're enjoying it!
Ótima execução dessa pianola equipada com Duo-Art system, parabéns!! Estou procurando por uma dessas aqui no Brasil, equipada com Duo-Art ou Ampico, mas são muito raras...
When I need edification and scholarship, I listen to Tatum, Powell, Garner and co. When I need pleasure, I turn to the piano rolls (and Fats.)
I'm a transcriber, for a fair price, I do the transcription of works like this
Much more enjoyable with the playback at 1.25!
You're welcome HerrlicheRaubtier!
a great song and a great rendition.
Dad saw Isham Jones' band performing back in the 1920s. Alas, Jones did not have much pizazz or personality as a band leader.,,,the poor guy had a lot of facial scarring and seemed ill at ease in front of crowds. Anyway, no denying this song is as fresh today as when it was composed.
Question: Could the players record directly to the 'roll' from this piano?
Nope, the rolls like the one in the video weren't even hand played, they were mastered a drafting board where the arranger quite literally just sat and cut holes in a piece of paper. The master was then edited some more, dynamic coding was added and then the master was finally matched to a specific punch rate (in this case around 20 punches per inch). There were hand played rolls that were then subject to the same mastering process, the pianist would play on a marking piano that would mark a paper roll with little pencil like things and then those would be cut out and the rest of the editing would be done.
Nice sound but you have the speed too fast.
You've got to remember these rolls were made in the 1920s as dance music and so the tempi of many songs we now hear crooned as ballads were much more up tempo then so you could fox trot to them.
Funny, I was just thinking this was a tune that could be played at almost any tempo - slow and romantic, or hopped up for the dancers of the day. And this arrangement with all its flourishes is meant to be the latter.
Nah, this is perfect, a lot of people play this even faster!