The problem with the mechanics of this game is that the odds of losing the game is always 1/6 (once the first 7 is rolled). Mathematically, there is not much disincentive for the rolling player. High Rollers is better at increasing the risk of rolling. Merrill Heatter made a better choice when they went to do High Rollers, and took the theme music with them.
+MountainHawkPYL Merrill Heatter should have just teamed with Orion originally to do High Rollers with Trebek for ABC Daytime it would have been better just having the familiar format .
I think I know why the pilot didn't sell. In my opinion, the game itself was fine and so was the host. The only problem was the bad roll being the number 7. Now, that's okay, but there should have been more as the game went on like in High Rollers. You see, with the number 7 being the only bad roll in the game, the odds of each contestant not getting it are in their favor. I think that's why most of them went for it instead of either passing it or taking the money, because they thought, "What have I got to lose? It's only one roll. I can avoid that." I think that was really the difference between High Rollers and Lucky Numbers. In Lucky Numbers, they thought that, but in High Rollers, they thought, "Oh, boy! What am I going to do? If I roll this number, it's curtains for me. It's not like it was earlier in the game when everything was going my way. Oh, God! What am I going to do?" I also think that Debbie, although she mentioned the prizes won, was mostly wasted here. Other than that, she's just standing there when she, with what she brought to the table, should've been in the audience. It's like you almost forgot she was there. It's not like that with Vanna White on Wheel Of Fortune. She doesn't just stand there at the puzzle board and that's it. She reveals more and more of the puzzle, bit by bit. That's a very important job. Without it, we wouldn't have a game. Well, I've said all I needed to say. I hope I haven't offended anyone.
This bonus round could've been better with a fixed number of rolls, namely 10 rolls (plus an extra roll for every double rolled). Like this: Light up all six lucky numbers before running out of rolls for the grand prize. Fail to do so and run out of rolls, the game ends and you keep the accumulated money. Roll two 7s, you lose everything.
+Gregory Pearsoll It would have been better if announcer John Harlan described the wares while Debbie hushed and just modeled the gifts. also having Debbie rah-rah for the contestants on camera is innapropriate, . on the good side the game was quite solid John Harlan did his usual good job of announcing and Alex Trebek was his usual classy, professional self the (notice even when the pilots are flawed if you have a good veteran host presiding the pilot seems more polished) however overall kind of a unprofessional pilot for an award winning producer like Merrill Heatter
Wait...meeting John Forsythe, Linda Evans and Joan Collins = $650? That should've been worth at least $7,500. Also, unless hitting the same number you won earlier=loss, isn't only the 7 the bad roll?
A "meet and greet" isn't worth $7,500. Most celebrities would often do this for free, anyway. The $650 for a civilian on the set covers expenses including, but not limited to, insurance, catering, tour guide, etc.
That actually is pretty true. Though, they usually were allowed to do as many network shows as they wanted. For example, Alex Trebek ended up hosting Classic Concentration, To Tell the Truth, and Jeopardy in 1991.
@@mariostar13 Isn't the reason why Vicki's and Alex's clothes are turning red at that moment the same reason why green clothes disappear when doing green screen?
This show wasn't as lucky as its name suggested. Alex wasn't as luck with Malcolm either but that's okay as he had all the luck on the world with Jeopardy.
It's not uncommon for producers to do multiple pilots of a show to smooth out issues and for them to have a choice of which to show when they're trying to get a show commissioned.
Now I can see why they changed the rules in High Rollers. All those matching rolls gave the contestant 100 bucks, so they had to think "Man, these contestants could abuse. Let's reinforce the old rules, where if you roll the same roll twice and it turns out bad, you lose immediately." As much as I like this show's bonus round, I like High Rollers better because of the added element of danger when gambling against The Big Numbers.
Not quite sure how rolling matching numbers allows the contestants to "abuse" the rule. If people could roll whatever they wanted, they'd just roll the "lucky number" and win the game. The $100 rule provided for a fun possibility of a contestant getting on a roll with "Wild numbers" and racking up some cash.
This sounds like a game show version of craps. I think the danger zone concept would've worked a little better if the only role it could get you out was a 7. If you roll any other number you lose.
The editing is just awful. Who's bright idea was it to, at sudden moments, switch to the audience and their forced reactions? Tacky. And what was the point of the hostess? Just to clap and go on free trips? Very tacky, which is a shame because the game itself is actually pretty good.
R.I.P. Alex Trebek!
Right music, right host, wrong show!
Did Trebek keep those old high rollers dice!!
The problem with the mechanics of this game is that the odds of losing the game is always 1/6 (once the first 7 is rolled). Mathematically, there is not much disincentive for the rolling player. High Rollers is better at increasing the risk of rolling. Merrill Heatter made a better choice when they went to do High Rollers, and took the theme music with them.
+MountainHawkPYL Merrill Heatter should have just teamed with Orion originally to do High Rollers with Trebek for ABC Daytime it would have been better just having the familiar format .
High Rollers was so much better to understand
Or they should make the prizes they have on their side a bad number in the danger zone. If they have that prize..
Anyone else notice how much footage was reused between the two pilots that are on UA-cam?
Was Vicki supplied a lot of consolation prizes for losing TWO pilot matches??
I think I know why the pilot didn't sell. In my opinion, the game itself was fine and so was the host. The only problem was the bad roll being the number 7. Now, that's okay, but there should have been more as the game went on like in High Rollers. You see, with the number 7 being the only bad roll in the game, the odds of each contestant not getting it are in their favor. I think that's why most of them went for it instead of either passing it or taking the money, because they thought, "What have I got to lose? It's only one roll. I can avoid that." I think that was really the difference between High Rollers and Lucky Numbers. In Lucky Numbers, they thought that, but in High Rollers, they thought, "Oh, boy! What am I going to do? If I roll this number, it's curtains for me. It's not like it was earlier in the game when everything was going my way. Oh, God! What am I going to do?" I also think that Debbie, although she mentioned the prizes won, was mostly wasted here. Other than that, she's just standing there when she, with what she brought to the table, should've been in the audience. It's like you almost forgot she was there. It's not like that with Vanna White on Wheel Of Fortune. She doesn't just stand there at the puzzle board and that's it. She reveals more and more of the puzzle, bit by bit. That's a very important job. Without it, we wouldn't have a game. Well, I've said all I needed to say. I hope I haven't offended anyone.
it has the high rollers theme song
@@malicool1304 Yes, I remember.
This bonus round could've been better with a fixed number of rolls, namely 10 rolls (plus an extra roll for every double rolled).
Like this:
Light up all six lucky numbers before running out of rolls for the grand prize. Fail to do so and run out of rolls, the game ends and you keep the accumulated money. Roll two 7s, you lose everything.
+Gregory Pearsoll It would have been better if announcer John Harlan described the wares while Debbie hushed and just modeled the gifts. also having Debbie rah-rah for the contestants on camera is innapropriate, . on the good side the game was quite solid John Harlan did his usual good job of announcing and Alex Trebek was his usual classy, professional self the (notice even when the pilots are flawed if you have a good veteran host presiding the pilot seems more polished) however overall kind of a unprofessional pilot for an award winning producer like Merrill Heatter
R I P Alex we miss you
Is it just me or does Vicki look familiar? At least her voice sounds familiar. Not the pilot but on another game show.
She was in the other pilot for this game.
And she couldn’t win this match either!
alex is doing good on jeopardy it's been 30 years
Wait...meeting John Forsythe, Linda Evans and Joan Collins = $650? That should've been worth at least $7,500. Also, unless hitting the same number you won earlier=loss, isn't only the 7 the bad roll?
A "meet and greet" isn't worth $7,500. Most celebrities would often do this for free, anyway. The $650 for a civilian on the set covers expenses including, but not limited to, insurance, catering, tour guide, etc.
So what happened if you roll a number in which you have the prize on your side of the board... i don't think i saw that I either pilot.
Trebek couldn't do HR in syndication, cause he was already doing Jeopardy!, I dont think they allow hots to host 2 syndicated shows
That actually is pretty true. Though, they usually were allowed to do as many network shows as they wanted. For example, Alex Trebek ended up hosting Classic Concentration, To Tell the Truth, and Jeopardy in 1991.
Jeopardy didn't do that great for it's first couple of years, I guess Alex was keeping some options open in case it got canceled.
2:39 someone forgot to tell the contestants to not wear green
Except they're not
@@mariostar13 Isn't the reason why Vicki's and Alex's clothes are turning red at that moment the same reason why green clothes disappear when doing green screen?
@@witherblaze TV tech from 1985 isn't exactly my forte
@@mariostar13 Same here. I'm going based on what I know.
2, 3, 11 and 12 were wildcard rolls. 7 was dangerous. The board had 4, 5, 6, 8, 9 and 10.
i.e. craps.
There are many more ways to get a 7 with 2D6 than there are to get a 2, 3, 11, or 12, so you're far more likely.
This show wasn't as lucky as its name suggested. Alex wasn't as luck with Malcolm either but that's okay as he had all the luck on the world with Jeopardy.
Why did they shoot two pilots?
It's not uncommon for producers to do multiple pilots of a show to smooth out issues and for them to have a choice of which to show when they're trying to get a show commissioned.
Now I can see why they changed the rules in High Rollers. All those matching rolls gave the contestant 100 bucks, so they had to think "Man, these contestants could abuse. Let's reinforce the old rules, where if you roll the same roll twice and it turns out bad, you lose immediately."
As much as I like this show's bonus round, I like High Rollers better because of the added element of danger when gambling against The Big Numbers.
Not quite sure how rolling matching numbers allows the contestants to "abuse" the rule. If people could roll whatever they wanted, they'd just roll the "lucky number" and win the game. The $100 rule provided for a fun possibility of a contestant getting on a roll with "Wild numbers" and racking up some cash.
Actually, they're two completely different games. High Rollers is Shut the Box, while Lucky Numbers is essentially Craps.
if this high rollers knock off of sorts would had got picked up they woud had been broke in a week.
So clear! And still it didn't sell..
No 7!
Because that's the danger zone number
3:05 Super awkward first question.
This sounds like a game show version of craps. I think the danger zone concept would've worked a little better if the only role it could get you out was a 7. If you roll any other number you lose.
Would've been better if it hadn't been for those lousy prize descriptions..
Gregory Pearsoll yes. Prize descriptions slowed down the game play.
same vivki
Yeah, they did another pilot with her in it.
Yup and Jeryll (who was in Pilot 1) is in the audience if you see the opening shot.
Alex Trebek was doing Jeopardy, he wouldn't have done this HR revival either way
He could have done it for daytime, as he did later with Classic Concentration and To Tell the Truth
In Any Rate The Game Is Rigged
The editing is just awful. Who's bright idea was it to, at sudden moments, switch to the audience and their forced reactions? Tacky. And what was the point of the hostess? Just to clap and go on free trips? Very tacky, which is a shame because the game itself is actually pretty good.