Upgrading twin plate clutch in Fordson major tractor puller. Machining floater and drive plates.
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- Опубліковано 7 кві 2023
- In this video I upgrade the old organic clutch plates to 6 paddle ceramic plates in this 6 cylinder Fordson Major tractor puller.
First the tractor is split, engine from gearbox. The old clutch is removed and the intermediate plate is found to not be flat. The intermediate plate is mounted in the lathe and both sides are skimmed. The drive plates then have the centre hub machined down in size to allow both to be fitted onto the input shaft with room for the intermediate plate. The twin plate clutch in then refitted and the tractor reassembled. Final job is to fit the bellhousing shield that was made in the previous video. Quick drive around to ensure the clutch works properly and that's job done.
Hope you enjoyed the video.
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Fordson majors,,we had 4 back when we were a dairy farm,,great machines,,so simple to work on,,,brings back some great memories.
Fantastic video.👍💯👍💯
I found that really interesting. I used to work with large industrial gearboxes among other types. I have to agree that the 6 paddles definitely seems to be insufficient, we could be wrong, but I bet that the clutch will need replacing sooner than what the customer thought. Good post 👍
A lot of hard and pretty interesting work there. Nice to see it all come together and work properly as well... Thumbs Up!
Cool Videos. I own a 1956 major. It needed a new new clutch last year and the bloke who did it for me had angle iron "train tracks" bolted to his workshop floor and two trolley jacks ran inside them. He put a ratchet strap around the split tractor and as he tigtened the strap, the jacks came together running inside the angle iron tracks, and the tractor went back together perfectly. Thought that was a pretty good set up.
Lovely looking Fordson
Great video. Think I'm going to have the sound of that beast reving as my new morning alarm.
Nice simple way to split the box and lump. If only modern stuff was so simple.
what a great job ,well done
That was cool to see and it was interesting never seen a tractor split in half is good to know that you care about the work you do, but I am going to ask you please look after yourself don't be caring those caind of heavy stuff around because now you are young but in a few years you will regret it because I am now regret at 51 years old.
Way you don't build an overhead crane to help you with the big loads.
Kind regards from doun South, North London.
Gday, great job, simple to split in half which makes life easy, awesome video mate, cheers
The person who built it into a tractor puller has put some thought into it. Thanks!
Thoroughly enjoyed it. Haven't done a tractor clutch since about early 80's. Then I came out of farming and went into construction. When I still lived in UK (Kent). I used to go to all the farm type shows. I used to like the traction engine pulls. Where I live now in Australia. Nothing like that. We get heavy horse events. But haven't seen any machinery events in this area. They do have them but it would be a fly in fly out event. Bit pricey.
The guards look good in red!
Absolutely brilliant video
Awesome repair, man!
Your best video so far in my opinion. Really interesting
Thanks!
Awesome video, thank you Oliver
Fantastic work as always. That intermediate plate didn't look like it had been cooked too badly.. just rough to start with lol. No wonder they fitted so many over sized springs, would need them to bend the clutch plates to get them to bite 😂
I love this!, i have an old 6 pot major. also, due for some tlc though.... When i think of it, i think the clutch is the only thing that works 100 percent in mine
Another Nice fabrication job
Thanks for the video, Guys fit those discs to Belarus tractors here in Canada for loader work as an "upgrade", they don't like skimming flywheels or putting new covers on unless they are total junk, so they chatter on the rough distorted surface, and they operate like crap. Then the next thing is it's like putting a big fly cutter in as that disc absolutly machines any surface clearance thats left right off in 1000 hours or less then they won't dissengage as the rivets hit bolt heads on the flywheel or PTO drive hub. It's just a whole bunch of fun trying to explain this to customers , then end up doing the job twice after they tried saving some $ L.O.L . I'm just going to convert my 6 power major from live to dead drive gearbox and do a dual clutch so I can antique pull without the offensive "odour de burned major clutch" perfume smell L.O.L , I was thinking the parts would have to come from the U.K or build it locally but luckily I found a US company that makes a 13" spacer plate and has an updated cover and spacers to fit as well. Hope somebody post a video of this one running on here, it'd be good to see it this season. Take care.
That sounds delicious! Has some poke too.
Good job well done as usual
Nice tractor…well done!
Brilliant as normal 👌👌👌👌
A man of many talents 🙂
Master of none 🤣
@@snowballengineering oh I don’t know about that buddy. You seem to have a handle on things to me 🙂
So now I have to add a vintage tractor to the list of vehicles I'd like to own!
Great job.
Good job young man !!! 😎👍👍
I think the red looks good. Thanks for the videos.
Thanks for watching!
Very Good, well thought out...
Nice job 👍
Love your work bro. Wish I could afford to come and hangout for couple weeks.
Great video nice job
The clutch cover looks good in the red oxide, makes a nice bit of contrast to the sea of blue
I thought it goes with the radiator grill and the wheels!
Good old dad comes to save the day lol, they are always hard to marry up, sometimes you think they had never been together before, very little holding the both sides of the tractor together really, good job in the end though
Nice work and a nice video :)
Thanks!
First class. Understand tractor pulling but not USA type burnouts!
Another good vid
Always good when you can get free help.😊
Especially when it's your Dad. You can right out an I owe You.😂
Nice job 👍
Top das galaxias!
In the absence of this rail you could bolt trailer jacks to those pairs of holes in the angled bits of the frame.
I... NEED... THAT... PUMP!!! for my 6500 Turbo, 160hp ain't enough 😅
My local speed shop always told me its the material of the clutch, that is important, not so much the clutch shapes. the only tractor pulls I watch are the fail compilations 😂🤣 great job 👍👍
The fail compilations are always entertaining to watch 🤣
looks really great especially with the flywheel protection cover plates all fitted for safety🇮🇪
That protection could withstand a Patriot Missile hit !!
One thing for sure the next time anybody splits that tractor, all the friction surfaces will chewed up to hell that those clutch plates. Amazing how the old majors had a bigger diameter clutch than a modern tractor three times the Hp.
with the material removed from the intermediate plate, will that reduce the overall spring preload from the pressure plate?
Clutch info. Measure from the head of the rivet to the friction surface. Times 4 since you have 4 friction faces. That should be the distance between the cover foot and the flywheel face without the bolts pulling the cover down.
There are specs in the service manual for the finger height when the discs and cover are bolted down to adjust the fulcrum screws.
I personally don't think there is enough clamping force in the current adjustment to prevent the clutch from slipping.
Thanks for the info. I think the clamping force will be fine. There was a good amount of distance between the cover and the stands before I started tightening the bolts down. The clutch feels good underfoot and engages and disengages properly so I'm happy with the finger height.
good old dad
From this and your previous videos you have some big capacity machines, did you build ships on your farm previously?
No ships 🤣 Big capacity compared to hobbyists machines but only average sized stuff for this industry.
If it was my tractor I'd paint that shield to match the rims; it looks sharp with the shiny fasteners.
Agreed. I like how it breaks up the sea of blue.
That would look really good .
Nice job. that Cargo engine doesn't quite have the clickety clack that an old Power Major would have done back in the 60's.
No not quite 😆. Very distinct sound to a major when the pump coupling gets a bit of wear.
If that cargo engines going clickety clack owning it's just got expensive,because it's probably tossed it's cookies all over the pulling track L.O.L. Here in Canada it's a job to find any Major that makes the traditional pump coupling noise, 99% of the ones I see or own have been updated to the silent lovejoy type rubber coupling the last of the super Majors used. I actually like them like that, you can hear what a nice running engine they actually are with the silent coupling if they aren't totally worn out junk.
I want to think you would have had that blanched blanching is the best thing for flywheels I believe you don't get the surface that flat if you are looking for a flat surface you blanchet 🤔
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nice job did you replace throwout bearing?
No, I checked it, looked like it hadn’t been in long and felt perfect so I left it alone.
Where did you get the clutch plates from. Nice job
The customer got them from clutchfix
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Won't it weaken the clutch plate center hubs spline shaft engagement by removing that much material? I know it is two disc but that is a LOT of stress in a pull.
It never seems to be an issue, the shafts always twist before anything happens to the splines. And it’s the only way to fit them in.
Hi, at 25.40 did i spy a Whitlock Dinkum digger, what year is she please? i used to assemble these in the 60's at the Great Yeldham plant in Essex, my old chap worked there as well before HYmac took them over.
When can we hear this rig run?
I would have thought you would paint the sheld and put that on while you had it apart
What year is the tractor
Wow. What engine is that?
Ford Dover/cargo 380
new input shaft after a few seasons of pulling???
A good upgrade is to convert them to 1” 3/4 input shaft instead of 1” 3/8 but there’s a bit of work involved to do it.
so is this a dual clutch from like a power major i thought they couldnt handle much power why people used the single clutch gearbox
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Good
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surface grinding will remove any hard spots, lathe will not
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Spoke too soon. Sounds beefy for sure!
I guess the red oxide is the wrath of MF!!
Nice job, but make yourself that splitting rail and trucks - you'll kick yourself for messing about so long. I was told the most important tool when splitting a tractor is the workshop broom!!! ................... Do you use the starter motor trick when they ''won't'' go together? ....come to think of it, the UA-cam safety police would ahve a fit with their leg up
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