@@MrCreemPie With just the mods mentioned in the comment you replied to, there are 5 on the market that range with +1 to fire skills from 10c to 1div. There's one for 4div but has a quant implicit and this build isn't mf so that's pointless. If you want to be fancy and get all skill gems, there's 2 for 4 and 7 divines. Please don't type if you don't know what you are talking about.
It’s the same idea as video games though. Can they really be called price fixers when people ARE spending that much on something. It happened when games started to cost £60 then £70, and now they’re gonna start pushing for £80 for new games, simply because people buy it. It’s the same as trade
@@jagobot1487 Imo the bigger issue are the ppl having 50 different accounts on div:c ratio spamming up the whole trade so you can't find anyone to trade with because it doesn't let you scroll further. At this point I just live search for currency because it's just a waste of time to go through all those fakes.
@@jagobot1487 yes, but if the pricefixers werent there and everyone who wanted the build would just naturally buy one, that amulet would be at 2 to 5 div. But pricefixers buy up any posted below 15 div and then resell them higher
It's not really price fixing tho, demand for the item was low hence the low price... demand for the item goes up? guess what the price goes up as well and people will still pay for it. Economy 101.Happens everytime some bigger streamer releases a build with semi-rare unique item.
@@petrsobotka5528That demand was artificially manipulated through individuals buying out these amulets with the sole intention of reselling them at extreme prices. Sure, some people are going to be willing to pay said price, but it's really not that different from scalping markets. No need to sugarcoat it, it's just a game anyways lol. Just call it what it is.
I appreciate you making this. Not only to call out the price fixers, but to point out that there is a huge gradient in this build for what one can call "successful". Nobody "needs" 40m DPS, and you can get an absurdly effective build without min-maxing this.
Dude I sold one of this amulet for 25divs, puting it at 25d in case I wanted to return to this build, someone wanted to buy, so I just let it go. What happened next was the guy pming me the amulet saying he "rolled it almost perfect" I thought it was another amulet because it said Zealotry. Soon he called himself an idiot because he noticed the divine rerolled the whole amulet. I tried replying. He was offline
Not only did they scam themselves paying an outrageous price for an okay item they then double scammed themselves by divining it. That's just poetry in motion.
@@SuperCatacata probably someone who rmt and skip everything in the game because he doesn't understand much and shouldn't be able to get this item in the first place. Always laughed at my friend who wasted money on the game like crazy on builds he did not understand just to massively fuck up hundreds of dollars and also me telling him I don't play with cheaters after he tell me he did it to play with me (lol). Dude wasn't even making a character to party play anyway
Im extremely happy you got this video out. I want to make this build but was not up to go through an 18+ div price fixed amulet for it. Great build and great job! Edit: I was seeing them yesterday at 18. Just looked, the cheapest is at twenty fucking eight. Jesus.
It was good that he addressed the issue, 'cause ppl would blame him for doing the same thing as "poe builds" does. I'm very tempted in trying out the build too!
This is what happens when any big streamer/youtuber makes a build guide. You bring this on yourself if you ever try a build that a youtuber just made a vid on. Demand spikes, so the sellers jack the prices up to infinity for a short while. If you really want to try it for cheap, wait a month or just do it next league.
@@igormoral2492 Yeah i really hate both sides. People who blame for that shit and people who actually do it for pricefixing. Thats the dark side of a fully community controlled market.
Not that many fire skills really, especially self cast. It’s either fireball or blazing salvo and fireball needs way more to make clear feel good than salvo or firestorm. I’d imagine blazing salvo isn’t too bad though.
So glad I saw the video when it was 20 mins old and instantly decided to snag one for cheap. Respecced my RF inquis to this build and having a blast. I use woke spell cascade for maps with celestial mtx on firestorm and it’s the most glorious eye cancer. Thanks for sharing your awesome build!
How much did you get it for? It’s my gfs first league and she chose firestorm so I got one for her like 3 weeks ago and I think it was like 80c or less but I don’t remember lmfao now she gotta sell it
If it caps out at 30 I'd just get a +1 fractured amulet instead and roll life attributes and whatever damage mod you scale best with between crit, cast speed, or dot multi (I don't know this build but cast speed and crit multi seem to be used in this PoB which can be essence rolled) ez upgrade. Literally a few crit multi or cast speed essences until T2/T1 life plus a fractured craft alone is already a massive upgrade then so it could never cost more than the +1 fractured base + like what 10 essences?
I played a version of this build that I just found through poe ninja, didnt like the build so i decided to reroll, i was surprised i was getting spammed for that amulet when i aquired it for 40c lol
I watched you're build guide on my way to work thinking "ooo this looks fun and exactly what I've been looking for" then thought about how I can't get on trade for 10 hours... rip lolol got home and saw the amulet after checking at work it was 100c -2 div Love the videos dude!
@@ipatchymakouli415 Did you even watch the video? Ducks said gem levels fall off past 30. Also a lvl.4 empower is +3 to levels in the body armor which is similar to Replica Dragonfang's Flight, only non specific. With the main skill in the body armor It does sound like a replacement, but it also sounds like you yourself advocate for price fixers.
@@grizzly_bear_A As close to 55% as possible but not actually 55 because you need a tiny bit for overleech while being lowlife thanks to petrified blood. Lowlife is 50 but he has that life mastery for an extra 5%. So just over 55% unreserved life
I watched your guide earlier and I'm interested in trying the build, next league. But I saw it's quite dependent on tattoos. Can this be played next league? Or is it something which would only really work now, with the tattoos in place?
why 2 sklls of the firestorm? the highest dps if we discard and keep only one is 27 no 47 with the x3 firestorm so can you please tell me where am i wrong or what is the reason of having two sets of the same skill gem with 2 tops that we can only use one at the time?
I looked at the amulet while watching your last video and they were 1 div or so. I didn't know if I would try this build so didn't buy one. I will do so in the future...
There is no way around price fixing, unfortunately no one will listen. The more publicity a item gets the higher the price. It’s just unfortunately how it is.
@@SuperCatacatagroups buying out the market and reselling at like 10000% price increase after a content creator makes a build is not really a good supply and demand example....
@@TheSwoon69 The amount of people playing firestorm increased tenfold after his buildguide vid dropped. I'd say the market price skyrocketing is a good reflection of that. Only an idiot wouldn't see that and try to pin it all on the illuminati price fixers. Thankfully ducks put this vid out to lower the demand for this specific amulet by showing alternatives since most people following his builds can't think for themselves.
Thanks for the videos man appriciate what you are doing i also love the bonezone jugg such a great build first character ive gotten to lvl 96 im pushing for 100. Such a good build guide.
I happened to get a really good Ashes of the Stars Amulet when I had to kill Eater of Worlds for the first time in the leauge. Would that still be a decent alternative if I wanted to go for this build?
It's a nice alternative, but you should definitely buy some alt quality gems Or just sell it, buy a +1 all skills amulet with attributes, cast speed, life or maybe crit multi and other gear pieces
I was literally first person to your last video and tried to buy one (to actually try the build) but failed hard. I wasn't fast enough. I don't care. I was only worried about the reservation efficiency because (a) I don't exactly get the hard goal of 55% for the pseudo over leech thing, and (b) I don't know where else to get the efficiency from but can try the level 3 enlighten. Build is fun so far. I like not dying. It's a huge diff from TS.
Down near the bottom of the tree is a reservation efficiency wheel that applies to both mana AND life reservation. You'd have to pull a few passive from other areas but you can get 16% efficiency + 20% efficiency from mastery.
you can sac like 3 points for some life reservation with tattoos, or like 5 for champion of the cause I guess you want between 50 and 55% reservation for pain attunement purposes without digging in your effective life pool, which wouldn't allow you to overleech.
If i remember correctly it could have to do with a specific font being installed in your copy of windows. That was at least the reason for another streamer i know, who also had the missing ff. Because content creators sometimes want to use the exact same font PoE uses to for Thumbnails etc , they go and install the font PoE uses on windows. The problem is that PoE then does recognizes that you already have the font, and uses the one installed in windows , instead of the one coming with the client. But turns out the one people install in windows is somehow faulty in conjunction with PoE and has small issues like the missing ff. So even if you did not go out of your way installing the font yourself, it could be that some other program you have installed ( like some text program, some dev program , some other game, or other resource pack etc) , came with that font , installed it on windows, and thus you have the problem
I added them all to the ignore list (including the guys that were not online, everyone that had it priced to over 5 divs got added to the list) so i never have to deal with them ever! I hate price fixer and scammers in this game!
Not everyone that puts the item at that price is a price fixer tho :D If I drop the amulet now and see its at 20div no matter if its "usually" 5div or whatever i obviously price it at 20div aswell
@@dirtymightmusic5239 all i have to say to that is: collateral damage. That's also a very bad and ignorant thing to do from your part, if you know the pricing of items even if an item is listed for 60 divs i list it for what is actually worth not for what others list it for, stop running after currency in this video game, you currency goblins. And most importantly stop scamming people for currency you will transfer to standard after the 2 weeks of gameplay or whatever you play the game for. Is damaging the entire purpose of trading. Items like this should be affordable to everyone no matter how much time they invest in the game. They are not super insane endgame chasing items like a mageblood is for example.
@@shin0me this is a really stupid mindset to have. 1st I dont have a fucking clue about the "real" price of items I follow what awakened poe tells me nothing more nothing less. Also there is no set price for any item in this game. Its all supply and demand. If the item is usually 5div and people list it for 20div it is completely valid and fine to do so. Its its completely overprices then people just wont buy it for that price and the supply price drops lower and lower until people are willing to buy it again. Its like this every time some people try to pricefix anything after a big youtuber makes a build. People buy out everything, try to pricefix, its too expensive so no one buys it so the price drops again to a reasonable price after a short while. Saying people are collateral damage and people are ignorant to price something at the market price something is currently at is a really fucked viewpoint imo. Sure if you see someone with 5 of the items listed for this price you can assume that he is a price fixer that bought multiple for cheap but saying people are bad for just listing it at its current price.. Yikes And items should not be affortable for everyone.. Thats not how economy works. items are worth according to their rarity and their demand in the current economy. You can also argue that the vast majority of players wont every own 5div in the time of the league. So why not price the 5div item at 5c so everyone can affort it? And yes pricefixing is a shit thing to do but again people just wont buy it if its too overpriced and the price will eventually drop down again. Just look at the prices for this item, its down to 6-10div already
i mean saying people are price fixing is kinda dumb tbh if people are buying the amulet and supply is lower than demand the price will keep going up till there are none left thats how it works also as of typing this there are 20 listed online on trade and 8 of them are sub 10 div so maybe people stopped "fixing" them but i just think there was a quick influx of people using/buying the amulet so the price went up again thats just what happens when 50+ people try a build and all have to buy the same amulet thats kind of rare
@@Jc-go3mz I was finally able to get one with decent passives for a reasonable price, just took awhile. Build is fantastic, just wish there weren't so many opportunistic people out there.
@@JellobiafraM what passives did end up getting, mine were completely useless as i bought it late at night when nobody was online ill probabaly look for a better one on the weekend
Thanks for calling this behaviour out. Crucible league was my first league and getting bamboozled was my first I'm gonna quit moments. I did the dumb mistake of following a TS leaguestart only to find myself bricked to yellow maps. This league I bet new players got bamboozled by rain of splinters, vixens, timeless jewels. The trade is genuinely the most off-putting part of new player softcore. You have these dudes that can easily make 20+ d/h scalping newbies that take months to get that one piece. I bet it's some RMT nonsense behind the scenes but it's really off-putting. Another culture shock was how people abuse active search. You know that fractured piece is not 2c.. why you ripping them off like that. "Well they should know if they are getting spammed by trade offers its worth more". That is some slimey car dealership ethics. You out there scalping, don't pretend it's the victims fault you are taking advantage of them.
@@majs3n440 Yeah, I was trying to get one for a cheaper version of the build and didn't realize the build guide was released. I watched the price jump and was actively trying to buy one during the initial hike and was barely able to snag a "decent" one for 1div. Saw yesterday about for hours after the video came out they were back down to 11div
This one item is probably the worst item in existence. The second one build gets slight attraction using it. BAM fixers buy up the market and mark it up for the newly acquired demand. Same thing happened to war chief variants for vaal ancestral warchief.
The price fixing is freaking rediculous. I really wish that GGG would actually put in a mechanic where if prices jump a specific amount, they offer the item at its legitimate price.
Price fixing isn’t bad, it’s the idiots that keep spending excessive amounts on shit items that keep on encouraging people to raise prices. It’s a very basic idea within real life economics
The amulet is supposed to be a budget gem level item allowing you to better use builds that rely on gem levels. Instead people are forcing the price up making builds more expensive than what they should be. I went for an elemental hit dragon fang's flight and it started out at 10 chaos and not even a week later people were charging half a divine for the item. Its seriously messed up.
the base price for dragonfang's flight is around 50c, so idk where you got that for 10c from. also there is 250 or more different skills, and if some skill becomes more popular over time, then the market is gonna adjust itself and drive the price higher on the amulet simply because more people use it, even without price fixing. Wanna add that half a divine is 115c, and at that point i would def not complain.
Unique with big roll (250 skills), tier 3 rarity and has other roll (reservation) which cannot be divined because of skill level, how is this supposed to be a budget variant? Its literally better than +2, crit multi, life amulet for some skills
I believe that there's a ton of ... how to say this politely ... selfish idiots who see a build guide and their only thought is immediately monopolizing/price fixing the main uniques for that build. It always happens, those people play PoE for currency and currency alone - and propably never leave their hideout, not even for maps.
aaaaand this is why I play with a SSF mentality even on trade leagues & don't bother looking at popular build guides that revolve around uniques. And it isn't even a PoE specific issue. This happens in every MMO with an in game player market. Game devs don't know how to regulate an economy and gamers have the market savvy of a twitchy day trader burning through daddy's cash while watching Wolf of Wallstreet on loop.
The best players get their gear by themselves before anyone is selling most of it. People who are good at the game aren't falling in those traps. It is good to understand the game and how to work around difficulties instead of getting stucked until you get a piece of gear. You get way more currencies if you don,t follow the crowd and do your own thing. Following the mass never paid off tbh
@@Axthenon, funny thing is, I've only just recently come back to the game. I had originally been playing back when Act 4 was the end of the game... stopped around Breach League I think. Totally different experience at the time. Buying uniques was more or less just a vanity thing, and you almost had to put effort into making a build that *couldn't* complete all the content.
The chest having +4 corruption looks a lot more expensive than the necklace tbh. It is hard to get a +4 corruption atm. Getting the skills, which is one of the best scaling vectors, is really difficult atm so people pay a premium for it. Try to be more understanding. We dont even get payed to play and now have to pay 5-10 times more than you did in time investment. It is a huge deal.
There are literally hundreds of Uber viable builds. The meta is not stale, players are. I started playing PoE at a time where poison was the only late game possibility. We have come a long way.
@@oneoranota yeah but content creators keep posting the same builds and 99% of the playerbase doesn't want to make a build themselves or try to copy one from poeninja
one way to avoid this, is for content creators who showcase builds to not dictate what unique to use ( unless its 100% neseserry for the build ) but instead do what you do here in the first place. listing a few mods on items. every build video should show Rare items with a list of prefix that is like 10 long..
many many times i seen items for every build almost going from like 40c to 3-5 even 10 divines ....and u cant buy them anymore unless u find them yourself ..... one league i remember a shield that went from 30c to 5 divine just cus of a single build ....idk whats wrong with ppl in poe rly GGG should do something about that its so annoying ....one league rich dude was buying all items from trade and reselling them i rememeber he got banned or something ..... so every new idea that comes to youtube makes some items 100x more expensive even if they are not worth that much at all :/
The necklace is really extremely powerful. In some scenarios it rivals Ashes of the Stars. Your arguments are basically "this amulet is really good and you need to manually change the build and look through the pob and make a bunch of adjustments and figure out how to replace all the stuff like requirements, life reservation, mana reservation and skill level from various other pieces of gear yourself". Guess what. People came here because they wanted help and inspiration. Ofcourse pricefixers abuse yours and other content creators videos. It is better money than any of your farming tips videos in divines per hour. It is how the free market in POE works. Assume that is always going to be the case and you will not be surprised. And yes, I'd easily pay 5-6d for a solid rolled necklace. If I really wanted to play with the skill. Saves me the trouble of trying to roll double skill or whatever other method I'd want to do to compensate and making the calculations for the other stuff. Well, lets just say I value my time more than 10 divines per hour :P
Just get a +1 amulet with attributes, cast speed and crit mult instead.
Even that will cost round about 10 to 15 divs i guess
@@MrCreemPie amulet like that cost 20c on avrg
@@MrCreemPie With just the mods mentioned in the comment you replied to, there are 5 on the market that range with +1 to fire skills from 10c to 1div. There's one for 4div but has a quant implicit and this build isn't mf so that's pointless. If you want to be fancy and get all skill gems, there's 2 for 4 and 7 divines. Please don't type if you don't know what you are talking about.
@@MrCreemPie yea maybe you stop guessing and start looking
@@jayw3688doesn't matter if the build is mf or not, having some Quant is better then not having it.
Kudos for putting idiot price fixers in their place, you were a lot more polite than I would be 😂
It’s the same idea as video games though. Can they really be called price fixers when people ARE spending that much on something. It happened when games started to cost £60 then £70, and now they’re gonna start pushing for £80 for new games, simply because people buy it. It’s the same as trade
@@jagobot1487 Imo the bigger issue are the ppl having 50 different accounts on div:c ratio spamming up the whole trade so you can't find anyone to trade with because it doesn't let you scroll further. At this point I just live search for currency because it's just a waste of time to go through all those fakes.
@@jagobot1487 yes, but if the pricefixers werent there and everyone who wanted the build would just naturally buy one, that amulet would be at 2 to 5 div. But pricefixers buy up any posted below 15 div and then resell them higher
It's not really price fixing tho, demand for the item was low hence the low price... demand for the item goes up? guess what the price goes up as well and people will still pay for it. Economy 101.Happens everytime some bigger streamer releases a build with semi-rare unique item.
@@petrsobotka5528That demand was artificially manipulated through individuals buying out these amulets with the sole intention of reselling them at extreme prices. Sure, some people are going to be willing to pay said price, but it's really not that different from scalping markets. No need to sugarcoat it, it's just a game anyways lol. Just call it what it is.
I appreciate you making this. Not only to call out the price fixers, but to point out that there is a huge gradient in this build for what one can call "successful". Nobody "needs" 40m DPS, and you can get an absurdly effective build without min-maxing this.
I'd say for ubers and you're new 40m dps would be what I would start with, I was at 20m and they smacked me. Then again nobody needs to play ubers
@@kenjikodai10M is Uber viable, just skill check for the most part. Some just needs more DPS per portal than others.
If it can be price fixed, it will be price fixed. Tale as old as PoE
Dude I sold one of this amulet for 25divs, puting it at 25d in case I wanted to return to this build, someone wanted to buy, so I just let it go.
What happened next was the guy pming me the amulet saying he "rolled it almost perfect" I thought it was another amulet because it said Zealotry.
Soon he called himself an idiot because he noticed the divine rerolled the whole amulet.
I tried replying. He was offline
Not only did they scam themselves paying an outrageous price for an okay item they then double scammed themselves by divining it. That's just poetry in motion.
ay lmaoo
How does someone have the divs to waste rerolling this ammy without knowing that it shouldn't be rerolled. lol
@@SuperCatacata probably someone who rmt and skip everything in the game because he doesn't understand much and shouldn't be able to get this item in the first place.
Always laughed at my friend who wasted money on the game like crazy on builds he did not understand just to massively fuck up hundreds of dollars and also me telling him I don't play with cheaters after he tell me he did it to play with me (lol). Dude wasn't even making a character to party play anyway
@@SuperCatacata I made at least 70divs one day alone selling 2x mantles and that dragonfang ammy.
People are crazy
hey ducks.. how much was the budget u spend on ur build ..?
The only people disliking this video are the ones trying to do the price fixing.
I can't believe people deslike big ducks. That's sad.
Im extremely happy you got this video out. I want to make this build but was not up to go through an 18+ div price fixed amulet for it. Great build and great job!
Edit: I was seeing them yesterday at 18. Just looked, the cheapest is at twenty fucking eight. Jesus.
It was good that he addressed the issue, 'cause ppl would blame him for doing the same thing as "poe builds" does. I'm very tempted in trying out the build too!
This is what happens when any big streamer/youtuber makes a build guide.
You bring this on yourself if you ever try a build that a youtuber just made a vid on. Demand spikes, so the sellers jack the prices up to infinity for a short while.
If you really want to try it for cheap, wait a month or just do it next league.
@@igormoral2492 Yeah i really hate both sides. People who blame for that shit and people who actually do it for pricefixing. Thats the dark side of a fully community controlled market.
Just use your brain, you don't need a video to tell you the obvious
Do you think this build can work well with other fire spell skills?
Not that many fire skills really, especially self cast. It’s either fireball or blazing salvo and fireball needs way more to make clear feel good than salvo or firestorm. I’d imagine blazing salvo isn’t too bad though.
So glad I saw the video when it was 20 mins old and instantly decided to snag one for cheap. Respecced my RF inquis to this build and having a blast. I use woke spell cascade for maps with celestial mtx on firestorm and it’s the most glorious eye cancer. Thanks for sharing your awesome build!
How much did you get it for? It’s my gfs first league and she chose firestorm so I got one for her like 3 weeks ago and I think it was like 80c or less but I don’t remember lmfao now she gotta sell it
@@donovanjohnson6682 are you on SC? I quit the league caus of Cyberpunk DLC so she can have my stuff 😎👍
@@donovanjohnson6682 oh nvm I read wrong u already have the gear! I bought the amulet for like 2 div I think
thought the build look fun when the video last week dropped, glad i bought the dragonfang on that day when it was 1div
Brink of Death is a good cheap alternative anoint as well if you can't afford the golden oils
If it caps out at 30 I'd just get a +1 fractured amulet instead and roll life attributes and whatever damage mod you scale best with between crit, cast speed, or dot multi (I don't know this build but cast speed and crit multi seem to be used in this PoB which can be essence rolled) ez upgrade. Literally a few crit multi or cast speed essences until T2/T1 life plus a fractured craft alone is already a massive upgrade then so it could never cost more than the +1 fractured base + like what 10 essences?
Price fixers and scalpers are sadly a plague in any market, quite a shame we have to deal with that on PoE's community. . .
*caugh caugh* SSF *caugh caugh*
I played a version of this build that I just found through poe ninja, didnt like the build so i decided to reroll, i was surprised i was getting spammed for that amulet when i aquired it for 40c lol
I watched you're build guide on my way to work thinking "ooo this looks fun and exactly what I've been looking for" then thought about how I can't get on trade for 10 hours... rip lolol got home and saw the amulet after checking at work it was 100c -2 div
Love the videos dude!
Same thing happened with Righteous Fire one, so glad I made a +2 Amulet with DoT multi ❤
Strong and reasonable, i like you exile
its funny the lengths people go to try get more pixels in a game
Mathil effect strikes again
It's strange because a lvl.4 empower and an uul netol's vow costs as much at that amulet lol.
Empower with a firestorm already level 25+ is a loss of damage compared to most other support gems, I would try to make it sound like a replacement.
@@ipatchymakouli415 Did you even watch the video? Ducks said gem levels fall off past 30. Also a lvl.4 empower is +3 to levels in the body armor which is similar to Replica Dragonfang's Flight, only non specific. With the main skill in the body armor It does sound like a replacement, but it also sounds like you yourself advocate for price fixers.
@@Wizi3lizz hey so l need to have 55% unreserved life in pob or 56%?.,
@@grizzly_bear_A As close to 55% as possible but not actually 55 because you need a tiny bit for overleech while being lowlife thanks to petrified blood. Lowlife is 50 but he has that life mastery for an extra 5%. So just over 55% unreserved life
@@Wizi3lizz so in pob life calcs it need to be 56% unreserved and 44% reserved ?
I watched your guide earlier and I'm interested in trying the build, next league. But I saw it's quite dependent on tattoos.
Can this be played next league? Or is it something which would only really work now, with the tattoos in place?
there will be tattoos in leagues to come
@@Ekqo3 i think this might be true, tattoos seem to be well balanced enough to go core.
Thank you for the this video, at the momemt I`m writing this replica dragon fang for this build is 5- 7 divine at the lowest
So are all other dragonfang's flights that are 15+ divines also price fixed? even without youtube videos about the build
Regarding resistances… I never understood how people feel comfortable sitting barely over cap…..two blue altars can nuke your res into the negatives…
Many people run red altars and just don’t take the res altars
or just dont die 😅
would it be okay for the budget version of this build to be without sockets?
is 3-4 divine for the amulet seems fine i fyou can go instead for a 1 divine rare chest?
Forget about the amulett bro, the fucking fractured wand ist sold out to the max
why 2 sklls of the firestorm? the highest dps if we discard and keep only one is 27 no 47 with the x3 firestorm so can you please tell me where am i wrong or what is the reason of having two sets of the same skill gem with 2 tops that we can only use one at the time?
made 17 div selling 2x of your timeless jewel ty dude
I looked at the amulet while watching your last video and they were 1 div or so. I didn't know if I would try this build so didn't buy one. I will do so in the future...
I just got a cheap dragonfang with a different skill gem that I’m going to use in the build and getting the fire levels elsewhere.
There is no way around price fixing, unfortunately no one will listen.
The more publicity a item gets the higher the price.
It’s just unfortunately how it is.
It's just simple supply/demand at work.
@@SuperCatacatagroups buying out the market and reselling at like 10000% price increase after a content creator makes a build is not really a good supply and demand example....
@@TheSwoon69 The amount of people playing firestorm increased tenfold after his buildguide vid dropped.
I'd say the market price skyrocketing is a good reflection of that. Only an idiot wouldn't see that and try to pin it all on the illuminati price fixers. Thankfully ducks put this vid out to lower the demand for this specific amulet by showing alternatives since most people following his builds can't think for themselves.
Also, can't amulets roll +1? Are those currently cheaper?
Well done! Screw price fixers
Thanks for the videos man appriciate what you are doing i also love the bonezone jugg such a great build first character ive gotten to lvl 96 im pushing for 100. Such a good build guide.
Boss Move! Thanks Big D
I happened to get a really good Ashes of the Stars Amulet when I had to kill Eater of Worlds for the first time in the leauge. Would that still be a decent alternative if I wanted to go for this build?
It's a nice alternative, but you should definitely buy some alt quality gems
Or just sell it, buy a +1 all skills amulet with attributes, cast speed, life or maybe crit multi and other gear pieces
I was literally first person to your last video and tried to buy one (to actually try the build) but failed hard. I wasn't fast enough. I don't care.
I was only worried about the reservation efficiency because (a) I don't exactly get the hard goal of 55% for the pseudo over leech thing, and (b) I don't know where else to get the efficiency from but can try the level 3 enlighten.
Build is fun so far. I like not dying. It's a huge diff from TS.
Down near the bottom of the tree is a reservation efficiency wheel that applies to both mana AND life reservation. You'd have to pull a few passive from other areas but you can get 16% efficiency + 20% efficiency from mastery.
you can sac like 3 points for some life reservation with tattoos, or like 5 for champion of the cause I guess you want between 50 and 55% reservation for pain attunement purposes without digging in your effective life pool, which wouldn't allow you to overleech.
I'm playing impale spectral helix. Because at this point every single chase item is out of reach. Thanks
i have geniune question.. my game font is also missing ' ff '
If i remember correctly it could have to do with a specific font being installed in your copy of windows. That was at least the reason for another streamer i know, who also had the missing ff. Because content creators sometimes want to use the exact same font PoE uses to for Thumbnails etc , they go and install the font PoE uses on windows. The problem is that PoE then does recognizes that you already have the font, and uses the one installed in windows , instead of the one coming with the client. But turns out the one people install in windows is somehow faulty in conjunction with PoE and has small issues like the missing ff. So even if you did not go out of your way installing the font yourself, it could be that some other program you have installed ( like some text program, some dev program , some other game, or other resource pack etc) , came with that font , installed it on windows, and thus you have the problem
@@TheQooglei have the same issue as well.. no wonder.. thanks
I added them all to the ignore list (including the guys that were not online, everyone that had it priced to over 5 divs got added to the list) so i never have to deal with them ever! I hate price fixer and scammers in this game!
Not everyone that puts the item at that price is a price fixer tho :D If I drop the amulet now and see its at 20div no matter if its "usually" 5div or whatever i obviously price it at 20div aswell
@@dirtymightmusic5239 all i have to say to that is: collateral damage. That's also a very bad and ignorant thing to do from your part, if you know the pricing of items even if an item is listed for 60 divs i list it for what is actually worth not for what others list it for, stop running after currency in this video game, you currency goblins. And most importantly stop scamming people for currency you will transfer to standard after the 2 weeks of gameplay or whatever you play the game for. Is damaging the entire purpose of trading. Items like this should be affordable to everyone no matter how much time they invest in the game. They are not super insane endgame chasing items like a mageblood is for example.
@@shin0me this is a really stupid mindset to have.
1st I dont have a fucking clue about the "real" price of items I follow what awakened poe tells me nothing more nothing less.
Also there is no set price for any item in this game. Its all supply and demand. If the item is usually 5div and people list it for 20div it is completely valid and fine to do so. Its its completely overprices then people just wont buy it for that price and the supply price drops lower and lower until people are willing to buy it again. Its like this every time some people try to pricefix anything after a big youtuber makes a build. People buy out everything, try to pricefix, its too expensive so no one buys it so the price drops again to a reasonable price after a short while.
Saying people are collateral damage and people are ignorant to price something at the market price something is currently at is a really fucked viewpoint imo.
Sure if you see someone with 5 of the items listed for this price you can assume that he is a price fixer that bought multiple for cheap but saying people are bad for just listing it at its current price.. Yikes
And items should not be affortable for everyone.. Thats not how economy works. items are worth according to their rarity and their demand in the current economy.
You can also argue that the vast majority of players wont every own 5div in the time of the league. So why not price the 5div item at 5c so everyone can affort it?
And yes pricefixing is a shit thing to do but again people just wont buy it if its too overpriced and the price will eventually drop down again. Just look at the prices for this item, its down to 6-10div already
Now the +2 amulets going up 🤪
i mean saying people are price fixing is kinda dumb tbh if people are buying the amulet and supply is lower than demand the price will keep going up till there are none left thats how it works also as of typing this there are 20 listed online on trade and 8 of them are sub 10 div so maybe people stopped "fixing" them but i just think there was a quick influx of people using/buying the amulet so the price went up again thats just what happens when 50+ people try a build and all have to buy the same amulet thats kind of rare
hey so l need to have 55% unreserved life in pob or 56%?.
hey so l need to have 55% unreserved life in pob or 56%?
Price dropping boiissss
bro can't hold the laughs at the end of the video cause he can't believe the insane price people are selling it for 😅😂🤣
Haha, you reminded me of my cousin in the intro.
What is the minimum budget to get this build rolling?
40-50 divine
@@阿財123 hey so l need to have 55% unreserved life in pob or 56%?
the chest is very expensive though 😭
I'm currently blocked from playing the build because the Timeless jewel you mentioned for the build is +20d
skill issue
skill issue
found one for 3div, jsut settle with bad passives, you dont need all res or aura effect
@@Jc-go3mz I was finally able to get one with decent passives for a reasonable price, just took awhile. Build is fantastic, just wish there weren't so many opportunistic people out there.
@@JellobiafraM what passives did end up getting, mine were completely useless as i bought it late at night when nobody was online ill probabaly look for a better one on the weekend
Amulet was cheap..... the fractured rings are expensive
i subbed cause of this video
i craft the +2 weapon with 26 div pretty unlucky with the fossil, lucky with the annul though.
hey so l need to have 55% unreserved life in pob or 56%?.,
I bought a near perfect one at the start of league for like 1d cause I’m a firestorm Andy, it’s a fun ammy but yea I would never buy it over like 3d
DUCKS....you are too good for this world...im sorry you have to tolerate with peoples bullshit.
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One guys has 4000+ locks, and I' grinded to lvl 100 in TOTA without seeing a single one.
Some people's greed has no boundaries.
Love the way you explain things. Newly subbed, thanks!
Thanks for calling this behaviour out.
Crucible league was my first league and getting bamboozled was my first I'm gonna quit moments. I did the dumb mistake of following a TS leaguestart only to find myself bricked to yellow maps. This league I bet new players got bamboozled by rain of splinters, vixens, timeless jewels.
The trade is genuinely the most off-putting part of new player softcore. You have these dudes that can easily make 20+ d/h scalping newbies that take months to get that one piece. I bet it's some RMT nonsense behind the scenes but it's really off-putting.
Another culture shock was how people abuse active search. You know that fractured piece is not 2c.. why you ripping them off like that.
"Well they should know if they are getting spammed by trade offers its worth more". That is some slimey car dealership ethics. You out there scalping, don't pretend it's the victims fault you are taking advantage of them.
the ones selling aren't RMT players. The one who buy without knowing how to get to the same level of those players are usually the ones who RMT
I bought mine for 8 div. 2min after the first video dropped. They are 35 div now. Ill be selling it again I guess.
Gotta sell quick
Video came out and I've been watching the price climb. Went from 18div on low end to 25div
The necklace were 50c to 2div just a few days ago.
@@majs3n440 Yeah, I was trying to get one for a cheaper version of the build and didn't realize the build guide was released. I watched the price jump and was actively trying to buy one during the initial hike and was barely able to snag a "decent" one for 1div. Saw yesterday about for hours after the video came out they were back down to 11div
You’re getting a sub.
This one item is probably the worst item in existence. The second one build gets slight attraction using it. BAM fixers buy up the market and mark it up for the newly acquired demand. Same thing happened to war chief variants for vaal ancestral warchief.
The price fixing is freaking rediculous. I really wish that GGG would actually put in a mechanic where if prices jump a specific amount, they offer the item at its legitimate price.
Wrong game.
The only "legitimate price" for any PoE item is One (1) Mirror.
you kinda look like the inquisitor
price fixers, the scalpers of player driven markets
never stop doing content. have you ever thought about streaming on kick?
Why is the FF blacked out on some streamers?
i feel like a +1 fire wand and a +1 fire amulet would suffice lol
Price fixing isn’t bad, it’s the idiots that keep spending excessive amounts on shit items that keep on encouraging people to raise prices. It’s a very basic idea within real life economics
lol the + to spark gem variant was 12 divs 2 weeks ago :\
And yes, first week there were people running rathpith, infernal mantle, firestorm with 3m poe ninja dps but making a video is a novelty.
The amulet is supposed to be a budget gem level item allowing you to better use builds that rely on gem levels. Instead people are forcing the price up making builds more expensive than what they should be. I went for an elemental hit dragon fang's flight and it started out at 10 chaos and not even a week later people were charging half a divine for the item. Its seriously messed up.
the base price for dragonfang's flight is around 50c, so idk where you got that for 10c from. also there is 250 or more different skills, and if some skill becomes more popular over time, then the market is gonna adjust itself and drive the price higher on the amulet simply because more people use it, even without price fixing. Wanna add that half a divine is 115c, and at that point i would def not complain.
Unique with big roll (250 skills), tier 3 rarity and has other roll (reservation) which cannot be divined because of skill level, how is this supposed to be a budget variant? Its literally better than +2, crit multi, life amulet for some skills
@@kooshappreciator4773 It should be at least budget in comparison to Ashes of the stars, but some of them are going for more.
This game blows me away with how anal retentive the player base is.
Free market at its finest my brudda ;D
Profit from rmt players who copy streamers builds. Nothing feel better than stealing from an idiot cheater.
@@Axthenon Wait so if you are selling those items that you also copied from the same streamer does it mean you are an idiot as well?
after this video the price of replicas plummeted lmao
I believe that there's a ton of ... how to say this politely ... selfish idiots who see a build guide and their only thought is immediately monopolizing/price fixing the main uniques for that build. It always happens, those people play PoE for currency and currency alone - and propably never leave their hideout, not even for maps.
You saved me 25 Divs , gl price fixers
Just get an ashes of the stars at that point, it’s better in every single way
Hurp Durp, youtuber make video, all items that even have 1 frame in video must go up in price... Make millions. Rule world!
aaaaand this is why I play with a SSF mentality even on trade leagues & don't bother looking at popular build guides that revolve around uniques. And it isn't even a PoE specific issue. This happens in every MMO with an in game player market. Game devs don't know how to regulate an economy and gamers have the market savvy of a twitchy day trader burning through daddy's cash while watching Wolf of Wallstreet on loop.
The best players get their gear by themselves before anyone is selling most of it. People who are good at the game aren't falling in those traps. It is good to understand the game and how to work around difficulties instead of getting stucked until you get a piece of gear. You get way more currencies if you don,t follow the crowd and do your own thing. Following the mass never paid off tbh
@@Axthenon, funny thing is, I've only just recently come back to the game. I had originally been playing back when Act 4 was the end of the game... stopped around Breach League I think. Totally different experience at the time. Buying uniques was more or less just a vanity thing, and you almost had to put effort into making a build that *couldn't* complete all the content.
pls someone give me an idea for a fun build that can be use until endgame
RF. There i said it.
God now people are price fixing 21/20 Firestorm.... from 10c to 1 div lol
Flipers gonna flip
Ducks: *Gigachad enters the chat*
Price fixers: "I'm never gonna financially recover from this"
Lol remember when Vulcanis was 2 ex?
people cant help it lol
as soon as someone releases a build guide the prices of the uniques in that build gets price fixed every time.
haha amulet dropped to 6 divines after the video
The chest having +4 corruption looks a lot more expensive than the necklace tbh. It is hard to get a +4 corruption atm. Getting the skills, which is one of the best scaling vectors, is really difficult atm so people pay a premium for it. Try to be more understanding. We dont even get payed to play and now have to pay 5-10 times more than you did in time investment. It is a huge deal.
It's going to be hilarious to see if this vid causes the price to plummet.
Unfortunately RMT exists, so IDK if it will fall that hard.
That's literally the point of the video brother.
@@jayw3688 No duh?
Just because the vid was meant to do something doesn't mean it always will. Thankfully it did it's job properly.
The flipping for content creator builds is gotten nuts this league.
Nothing new happens every league since forever.
cause the meta is so stale people are desperate for a new interesting build
There are literally hundreds of Uber viable builds. The meta is not stale, players are. I started playing PoE at a time where poison was the only late game possibility. We have come a long way.
@@oneoranota yeah but content creators keep posting the same builds and 99% of the playerbase doesn't want to make a build themselves or try to copy one from poeninja
I got mine for 25c. Kinda felt bad tbh, lol.
hey so l need to have 55% unreserved life in pob or 56%?
one way to avoid this, is for content creators who showcase builds to not dictate what unique to use ( unless its 100% neseserry for the build )
but instead do what you do here in the first place. listing a few mods on items. every build video should show Rare items with a list of prefix that is like 10 long..
many many times i seen items for every build almost going from like 40c to 3-5 even 10 divines ....and u cant buy them anymore unless u find them yourself ..... one league i remember a shield that went from 30c to 5 divine just cus of a single build ....idk whats wrong with ppl in poe rly GGG should do something about that its so annoying ....one league rich dude was buying all items from trade and reselling them i rememeber he got banned or something ..... so every new idea that comes to youtube makes some items 100x more expensive even if they are not worth that much at all :/
hey so l need to have 55% unreserved life in pob or 56%?
The necklace is really extremely powerful. In some scenarios it rivals Ashes of the Stars. Your arguments are basically "this amulet is really good and you need to manually change the build and look through the pob and make a bunch of adjustments and figure out how to replace all the stuff like requirements, life reservation, mana reservation and skill level from various other pieces of gear yourself". Guess what. People came here because they wanted help and inspiration. Ofcourse pricefixers abuse yours and other content creators videos. It is better money than any of your farming tips videos in divines per hour. It is how the free market in POE works. Assume that is always going to be the case and you will not be surprised.
And yes, I'd easily pay 5-6d for a solid rolled necklace. If I really wanted to play with the skill. Saves me the trouble of trying to roll double skill or whatever other method I'd want to do to compensate and making the calculations for the other stuff. Well, lets just say I value my time more than 10 divines per hour :P
This comment section is hilarious. Truly the gathering place of ridiculous people.
Ahh kids wanna make at once the build meanwhile fixer rise price x300-400% :D classic POE economy
I end up build bodyswap after seing the price. Flicker spell build....
gigachad
Unique based build are not for normie player, I have not time to farm 30 div after work. The market make the game not fun