I am passing on this for now. Last year I paid $69 for an upgrade from 5 to 6. This is just to big of an increase in cost and some additional features are tied to a Filmpack upgrade. Maybe black Friday will entice me, but not now.
🔖 I'll update later when it's Black Friday. I’ll update only because they’ve finally moved the tools for working with local photo corrections *to the panel on the right.* These small menus right in the photo drove me crazy. And also because of the addition of different *photo display profiles.*
Well looks like you are the target audience for this upgrade😊 But yes the previous widget was cool looking but worse usability. Photo display profiles? Are you referring to their new color calibration tool?
That is a strange set up. Though after watching the demo I don't really get what's so special about luminosity masking as both control line and control point already makes of luminosity to create their mask. Not totally sold on the idea but then again haven't use it 🙂
Gouging is what they do best. They don’t seem to appreciate that building a happy client base will pay dividends in the end. They should roll all this stuff together into a single reasonably priced and integrated product with nik and filmpack. Maybe then I’d pay 109 a year for upgrades to the whole kit. But the minor upgrades with high costs…multiplied by each product is a killer.
Yes it quickly spirals out of control if you add in pureraw, nik, filmpack along with photolab. Thankfully I have no urge for anything else except photolab 🙂They should have put the luminosity masking with photolab 7 though to make the upgrade more substantial.
@@takebetterphotos8132 I don’t think most people need all those products, as there is considerable overlap. However, now that Photolab has all but lost its lead on noise processing, the case for Lightroom is stronger. And Lightroom’s subscription cost is about the same as an annual upgrade of Photolab.
One of the best demonstrations of the new features. Short and clear. Hopefully the B&W tools will be the beginning of incorporation of some silver efex tools into PL. I'll wait for Black Friday sale.
I upgraded from v5 to v7 after thinking about it for about 5 seconds. This was money well spent, to get all the v6 upgrades plus the new local adjustment controls.
Thanks for your video. The things you shown are the motivation to abandon Lightroom (after a lot of years) for Photolab 7. The old interface was ugly for me but the enhances underlined in this video let me to make the switch.
Still Upoint selection. All the other features of PL, esp the raw conversion (it *is* a raw converter first, after all, not a photo editor lol), keep me with PL, but I seriously hate Upoint. I far prefer the way other apps handle this. And saying that adding a lot of overlapping control points to a single layer is better than having to work with layers is just trying to turn a sow's ear into a silk purse, IMO. I have never bought the Nik collection for that reason. I guess Upoint is their gimmick and lots of people love it, so we are stuck with it, but wow, I hate being forced to use it so bad that I do most of my work in Affinity Photo instead of in PL.
For example, often I want to select the whole image and narrow the selection by color. I guess I could paint the whole image with a mask, and then adjust the Chroma. I think the Control Line might work for this, but it applies as a gradient across the area where the mask will make changes. Really, other than the Gradient tool, this is my biggest gripe with Upoint, that a gradient in the mask is applied around the control point. Perhaps I am just not doing it right, I dunno, but I seem to always be fighting against the tools. Something I do a lot is to select color in an area of redness in a face, then adjust the range to narrow in on the redness I want to take out. I then use Saturation and tint/temp, whatever it is in the app, to take out the redness. Of course, this also affects many areas where I do not want to make any changes, with the lips usually being strongly affected. In my image editing app (Affinity Photo; AP ) I can just paint over the areas I want to exclude and get what I want. Plus there are other options for selection that I can use, too. So, mostly what I do is the conversion and some initial global adjustments in PL, such as tonal adjustments and white balance, and then do all the more detailed work in AP. Perhaps I am just expecting far too much of a raw conversion app, and honestly I have not trialed any of the others in years; I never found anything that did the things I find most important in a raw converter as well as PL. I am unlikely to ever look elsewhere again, even though I think perhaps Lightroom (not an option at all, I intensely dislike Lr and Adobe) and Capture One (also not an option, too expensive) are incorporating AI, I assume to make selections. But I wish the local adjustment tools made more sense to me. Sorry this was so long. And perhaps I am just an idiot and have no idea how to use Upoint correctly. In my defense, I *have* read stuff on it, many times, and still find it frustrating. Thanks! :) @@takebetterphotos8132
I forgot to mention, I do love the Luminosity tool! Just awesome. Now if there were something for color; I think you can subtract from the mask to isolate the areas where you want to apply changes.
Appreciate the the long post. You explained your issue very well! 🙂 I get that the gradient nature of control point is not what should be used. However DXO's does have a masking brush (which does not use a gradient) and in PL7 it can do local color adjustments -- meaning you can paint on the face and make specific color changes to a shade of red. Maybe give that a try. Do note thought that one drawback though of the masking brush as it visually does not represent what is really being selected. Unlike AP which has clear marching ants around a selection.
I think the way Exposure X7 implements LUTs is pretty good. You can import as many as you want and sort them into categories a bit like presets. @@takebetterphotos8132
I'll upgrade for the local corrections tool if the price drops enough or they have a good sale. I like the new feature, but it's not worth $109. I'm also unhappy that they tight the luminosity mask into the Film Pack for another $80. I rarely used the Film Pack in v6 and don't plan on upgrading it.
I have heard the same take other users as well. They say they will check it out again on the Black Friday sale. That was a strange thing to tie luminosity mask into film pack. But a good reminder to try and test that!
I don’t see that happening soon. DxO is a raw converter at heart, something like Affinity Photo 😅is a better option for stacking and stitching (and cloning too!) and plays very well with PL once you assign it to the EDIT IN export option. And it’s very inexpensive too.
I'll consider upgrading if the price drops, or if they add a diffusion control to local adjustments like they included in the recent Nik update. Otherwise, the changeset doesn't seem like enough to justify the upgrade cost for me as someone who primarily shoots underwater nature photography.
Yes I came to the same conclusion. Not enough wow features. But maybe the change in interface took more time than expected or they focused on Nik or their other software this time. For underwater photography I suppose you use their clearview a lot?
@@takebetterphotos8132 Yes, if the situation calls for it. Typically, this is when my subject or important background elements are more than a meter away, as water absorbs colour and reduces contrast, and around 1m is where the effects start becoming more apparent. For most wide-angle shots, I'll leave the slider around 10-25ish because I find that ClearView starts introducing unnatural looking amounts of saturation and contrast at higher settings. Conversely, I rarely use ClearView when I'm shooting underwater macro photography because there's very little distance (and thus less water) between the camera and subject.
I see thanks for the very clear explanation. Yes Clearview has to be used with care or the look becomes cheesy. The quality it produces is one of a kind.
Very informative video, thanks. The new features are very welcome, but like you I do not feel they are sufficient to justify an upgrade from V6. I am hoping that V8 will be worth waiting for!
I’m passing on 7 because although I’d love to have the new colour calibration features I hate what they have done with the Local Adjustment UI. Nik did the same for a spell but have now made the position of the sliders user configurable. I’m really hoping DxO do the same in PL8 because I much prefer having the controls on the control point/line/brush. (But I do hope they put the local HSL into Nik too!)
@@takebetterphotos8132 absolutely! It’s right where you need it, much less mouse movement and I don’t need to look away from the image, it’s much more efficient.
I saw your first photo of the boy sitting by the pier and I thought... gee that reminds me of Spore. Sure enough your second photo confirmed it. I was also guessing where you're from since you certainly don't sound like a local. I'm guessing you are from the Philippines. Have been out of Spore for 20 years and I still can pick up the vibe just from 1 photo. Been checking out the DXO site for the new version for 3 months now and finally its up. Currently using ver 5. I'll probably upgrade.
The boy is in shot in Phil though. I have worked in both places. But I guess tropical countries have that same vibe. Yes as someone who has used v5, v6, and v7 I think v5-v7 is well worth the upgrade just for the denoise and new local adjustments panel. I also found they fixed bugs in their control line in v7 which used to make strange errors in v6 but now does not.
good stuff. I had been holding out esp since I no longer do photography regularly. Got Photolab 7 last night at the upgrade price. And yes i'm not surprised there are bug fixes not mentioned. Looking at a couple of reviews of "whats new" in ver 7, it seems to me v7 is merely the continuation of on going development since the last major upgrade. Version 5 saw significant features. Version 6 added better denoise and now in v. 7 we see further refinement of those features as well as bug fixes. Their "payment model" is as close to a subscription service without actually being one. So I decided to "upgrade" every other year. I think their "upgrade price" only applies if you are no more than two versions behind. So If I didn't upgrade from v5 to v7, once v8 comes out I will have to pay full price. @@takebetterphotos8132
Yes exactly it's as close to a subscription without being one. I was surprised by the two version behind requirement. Not sure if this is a new policy for them. Anyway at $99 I think a ton of value there given what other software provides for > $99. I suspect this version will be a success. A lot of people in the comments seem to be upgrading.
yea go read the upgrade fine print. I had an Elite verion of the software 5 years back and they refused support or to give me an upgrade price.@@takebetterphotos8132
Most of these could be considered fixes and should not be paid for. Adding the frequency of new releases, this is becoming like subscription by stealth.
I Don't disagree. New updates should include new tools that move the needle not just UI updates. Maybe DXO could not finish what it really wanted on time.
Attention, la version 7 demande un PC de course, ma carte graphique, une GTX 1050 est devenue partiellement compatible et des lenteurs sont présentes notamment lors de l'export, passant de 8minutes au lieu de 48 secondes en DeePrime XD ! Merci DxO, le PC neuf est offert ???
Is the denoise Dxo pure raw 3 included in photolabs 7? I’m more interested in the Denoise feature of dxo pure raw but if photolabs includes it , then I’ll buy photolab. Currently I’m using capture one for editing raw images
Gdyby update kosztowało do 40 Euro to pewnie bym kupił. Ale 109 Euro to dla mnie zbyt wygórowana cena. Lubię ten program ale cena update dla mnie emeryta jest za wysoka.
I understand perhaps you can wait for Black Friday sale. A few viewers have said that's what they will do.
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@@takebetterphotos8132 I waited for Black Friday and I still think the upgrade price is excessive. DXO boasts that it reduces prices by up to 50%, but in this case, the transition from PLN 6 to PLN 7, they went crazy with the discount and gave as much as 18% They have a gesture! Too bad, I'm waiting until November 2024.
Its worth an upgrade only if you find the local adjustmentts panel (widget) too small or inconvenient. Or if you need local hsl adjustments. Other than that I would wait for the next iteration.
I have PL6...the upgrade price is a bit high especially since it's in US dollars. At the current rate of exchange PL7 would it me for 150 bucks CDN plus tax so unless there's a big sale...forget about it
The upgrade from my PL6 Elite to PL7 Elite in Canada is $109.00 USD not $99.00 USD so add the exchange rate in CDN funds brings it to $150 CDN. DxO has to do better for me to upgrade...maybe when a sale happens because there isn't enough in the upgrade to entice me. C'mon DxO do better for Canadians. I'd upgrade if it was $109.00 in Canadian funds.@@takebetterphotos8132
I loved DXO photolab 5......bought the upgrade to 6......it wouldn't install. I run windows 10, but for what ever reason.....and I've tried for years, it simply won't update to 20h2 or higher.....it just won't do it....went to install photolab 6.....won't install as my version of windows isn't high enough.......sorry photolab....after spending over $100 on the upgrade, I can't buy another version.....as you simply have some arbitrary code on the install that won't let me install the program.
Just to understand it wouldn't install because of your version of Windows? What version of Windows are you using? Did you check with the DXO helopdesk on this?
@@takebetterphotos8132 I've been trying for years to update windows, it'll do partial updates etc, but could never get from 1909 to ie 20h2, or 22h2 etc......everything on my computer works (for work), every driver runs fine, their is no reason to ie format everything and stop a perfectly good 1950 threadripper, 64gb ram and a 3080 from ie doing anything. The only issue I have is, everything works on my pc, but I simply can't install dx06......so not even going to try dx07.....5 works great, every new game, anything just works.......some arbitary limit with dxo to stop me from installing a newer version when I'd guess that it would work any way is just stupid (in my opinion).....just my 2 cents.
That is very strange. It certainly is not your hardware! In any case you can always download the trial (30 days). Perhaps they've fixed all the issues. Usually it is older hardware that makes DXO slow.
I've found myself using PL6 mostly for preparing images (mostly denoising, modifying tone/exposure, perspective correction) before moving them to Radiant Photo (which I've come to really like). I agree that PL7 doesn't seem a big enough step forward from PL6 for the price that's being asked. A little disappointed. Nice shot of Little India in Singapore, BTW
Thank you. An old photo I finally got some use for 🙂 Yes pl7 feature set is head scratchingly sparse. Perhaps the "real" features didn't get finished in time. DXO does make sure everything is polished before releasing;
I am passing on this for now. Last year I paid $69 for an upgrade from 5 to 6. This is just to big of an increase in cost and some additional features are tied to a Filmpack upgrade. Maybe black Friday will entice me, but not now.
same. these are little more than bug fixes really...
That 69 is what paid during black Friday last yr as well
Didn't know that black friday went down to 69. Currently they don't give a discount if you are below version 5 apparently.
Wait until Black Friday and then update to version 7. 😉🎉
@@gandolfred yes I did that last yr too with Photolab 6 with version 5 I was to greedy .
🔖 I'll update later when it's Black Friday. I’ll update only because they’ve finally moved the tools for working with local photo corrections *to the panel on the right.* These small menus right in the photo drove me crazy. And also because of the addition of different *photo display profiles.*
Well looks like you are the target audience for this upgrade😊 But yes the previous widget was cool looking but worse usability. Photo display profiles? Are you referring to their new color calibration tool?
Having to buy Filmpack to get luminosity masking in Photolab is, I think what my American friends call, gouging.
That is a strange set up. Though after watching the demo I don't really get what's so special about luminosity masking as both control line and control point already makes of luminosity to create their mask. Not totally sold on the idea but then again haven't use it 🙂
Gouging is what they do best. They don’t seem to appreciate that building a happy client base will pay dividends in the end. They should roll all this stuff together into a single reasonably priced and integrated product with nik and filmpack. Maybe then I’d pay 109 a year for upgrades to the whole kit. But the minor upgrades with high costs…multiplied by each product is a killer.
Yes it quickly spirals out of control if you add in pureraw, nik, filmpack along with photolab. Thankfully I have no urge for anything else except photolab 🙂They should have put the luminosity masking with photolab 7 though to make the upgrade more substantial.
@@takebetterphotos8132 I don’t think most people need all those products, as there is considerable overlap. However, now that Photolab has all but lost its lead on noise processing, the case for Lightroom is stronger. And Lightroom’s subscription cost is about the same as an annual upgrade of Photolab.
One of the best demonstrations of the new features.
Short and clear.
Hopefully the B&W tools will be the beginning of incorporation of some silver efex tools into PL.
I'll wait for Black Friday sale.
Just like you, many comments seem are saying they will be waiting for Black Friday to upgrade. Hopefully DXO doesn't disappoint!
I upgraded from v5 to v7 after thinking about it for about 5 seconds. This was money well spent, to get all the v6 upgrades plus the new local adjustment controls.
Yes more compelling proposition from v5 to v7. Night and day using new local adjustment panel.
Great video excellent presentation!
Thank you kindly!
Good review and I agree it is a modest update
Yes indeed! Targetted to photolab 5 users perhaps.
i have dxo photolab 5 now and the new features are the exact things i missed in the old version, so im definetly going to upgrade!
Thanks for the data point! Seems like a lot will be upgrading. 🙂
Excellent. Thank you for making me aware of this new version. I have v5 and will definitley upgrade to 7.
Glad to help. Good to take advantage of the 99USD upgrade price as well!
I upgraded to 6 last November, so I'll likely wait til 8
Yes new features surprisingly sparse compared to years past.
Yes new features surprisingly sparse compared to years past.
Great informational video. Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I like the colour calibration and the local adjustments updates, so will probably go for this update.
Great thanks for sharing!🙂
I JUST bought PL 6. I do eventually plan to get filmpack as well, but not yet.
Thanks for the feedback. Those who have just bought PL6 are all saying their not upgrading till price is lower.
Thanks for your quick tour - was very helpful for me. :)
You’re welcome 😊
Thanks for your video. The things you shown are the motivation to abandon Lightroom (after a lot of years) for Photolab 7. The old interface was ugly for me but the enhances underlined in this video let me to make the switch.
Yes the new interface is much easier to use. Photolab 8 is out now by the way. My video will be out later!
The best video I've seen on this, thanks. Subscribed.
Glad it was helpful. Thanks for subscribing!
Still Upoint selection. All the other features of PL, esp the raw conversion (it *is* a raw converter first, after all, not a photo editor lol), keep me with PL, but I seriously hate Upoint. I far prefer the way other apps handle this. And saying that adding a lot of overlapping control points to a single layer is better than having to work with layers is just trying to turn a sow's ear into a silk purse, IMO. I have never bought the Nik collection for that reason.
I guess Upoint is their gimmick and lots of people love it, so we are stuck with it, but wow, I hate being forced to use it so bad that I do most of my work in Affinity Photo instead of in PL.
Hi there just to understand is it that upoint is innacurate or more complicated that you don't like it? Or is it that you just prefer brush?
Agree, the U point is pointless; Do not like it at all, probably the biggest complaint about this software
For example, often I want to select the whole image and narrow the selection by color. I guess I could paint the whole image with a mask, and then adjust the Chroma. I think the Control Line might work for this, but it applies as a gradient across the area where the mask will make changes. Really, other than the Gradient tool, this is my biggest gripe with Upoint, that a gradient in the mask is applied around the control point. Perhaps I am just not doing it right, I dunno, but I seem to always be fighting against the tools.
Something I do a lot is to select color in an area of redness in a face, then adjust the range to narrow in on the redness I want to take out. I then use Saturation and tint/temp, whatever it is in the app, to take out the redness. Of course, this also affects many areas where I do not want to make any changes, with the lips usually being strongly affected. In my image editing app (Affinity Photo; AP ) I can just paint over the areas I want to exclude and get what I want. Plus there are other options for selection that I can use, too.
So, mostly what I do is the conversion and some initial global adjustments in PL, such as tonal adjustments and white balance, and then do all the more detailed work in AP. Perhaps I am just expecting far too much of a raw conversion app, and honestly I have not trialed any of the others in years; I never found anything that did the things I find most important in a raw converter as well as PL. I am unlikely to ever look elsewhere again, even though I think perhaps Lightroom (not an option at all, I intensely dislike Lr and Adobe) and Capture One (also not an option, too expensive) are incorporating AI, I assume to make selections. But I wish the local adjustment tools made more sense to me.
Sorry this was so long. And perhaps I am just an idiot and have no idea how to use Upoint correctly. In my defense, I *have* read stuff on it, many times, and still find it frustrating.
Thanks! :) @@takebetterphotos8132
I forgot to mention, I do love the Luminosity tool! Just awesome. Now if there were something for color; I think you can subtract from the mask to isolate the areas where you want to apply changes.
Appreciate the the long post. You explained your issue very well! 🙂 I get that the gradient nature of control point is not what should be used.
However DXO's does have a masking brush (which does not use a gradient) and in PL7 it can do local color adjustments -- meaning you can paint on the face and make specific color changes to a shade of red. Maybe give that a try.
Do note thought that one drawback though of the masking brush as it visually does not represent what is really being selected. Unlike AP which has clear marching ants around a selection.
The LUT panel seems to be a bit under done. While you can add LUTs there doesn’t seem to be a way to file them in folders and organise them.
Thanks for your perspective on LUTS. In your opinion which pho editor implements LUTS correctly?
I think the way Exposure X7 implements LUTs is pretty good. You can import as many as you want and sort them into categories a bit like presets. @@takebetterphotos8132
Thanks for the feedback!
@@takebetterphotos8132 which photo editor implements LUTs correctly - DaVinci Resolve! 🤣
I'll upgrade for the local corrections tool if the price drops enough or they have a good sale. I like the new feature, but it's not worth $109. I'm also unhappy that they tight the luminosity mask into the Film Pack for another $80. I rarely used the Film Pack in v6 and don't plan on upgrading it.
I have heard the same take other users as well. They say they will check it out again on the Black Friday sale. That was a strange thing to tie luminosity mask into film pack. But a good reminder to try and test that!
Thanks for the update. I have 6 and will not upgrade. I probably won't upgrade and am considering Lightroom unless DXO adds photo stacking.
Thanks for sharing
I don’t see that happening soon. DxO is a raw converter at heart, something like Affinity Photo 😅is a better option for stacking and stitching (and cloning too!) and plays very well with PL once you assign it to the EDIT IN export option. And it’s very inexpensive too.
Thanks for the overview. I'm using 6 now and will likely hold off until 8 unless the black friday deals are really good.
Thanks for the feedback! 6 is perfectly fine and can do everything 7 can. I am on the same mind but quite a few have said they will upgrade.
I'll consider upgrading if the price drops, or if they add a diffusion control to local adjustments like they included in the recent Nik update. Otherwise, the changeset doesn't seem like enough to justify the upgrade cost for me as someone who primarily shoots underwater nature photography.
Yes I came to the same conclusion. Not enough wow features. But maybe the change in interface took more time than expected or they focused on Nik or their other software this time. For underwater photography I suppose you use their clearview a lot?
@@takebetterphotos8132 Yes, if the situation calls for it. Typically, this is when my subject or important background elements are more than a meter away, as water absorbs colour and reduces contrast, and around 1m is where the effects start becoming more apparent. For most wide-angle shots, I'll leave the slider around 10-25ish because I find that ClearView starts introducing unnatural looking amounts of saturation and contrast at higher settings. Conversely, I rarely use ClearView when I'm shooting underwater macro photography because there's very little distance (and thus less water) between the camera and subject.
I see thanks for the very clear explanation. Yes Clearview has to be used with care or the look becomes cheesy. The quality it produces is one of a kind.
Nice video… Definitely think I will hold off… I was hoping for a fix on some of the noise reduction artifacts that I get with my sony a1!
Yes there will be some artifacts unfortunately. You can always go for the older deepprime instead of xd, but the noise reduction is less powerful.
Thank you very helpful. But I will be upgrading as I love the changes. Local adjustments are alot better.
Good for you! Yes the local panel is way more convenient to use. There are bug fixes as well I'm seeing in Control Line and Control Panel.
@takebetterphotos8132 I have found that when adjusting that, the panel moves down, and I end up clicking on something else.
Hi I haven't heard anyone complain bout this nor have I experienced this issue. But I do note your feeback. Thanks!
I'll upgrade when they add key board shortcuts and ability to customize them.
Thanks for the feedback.
Very informative video, thanks. The new features are very welcome, but like you I do not feel they are sufficient to justify an upgrade from V6. I am hoping that V8 will be worth waiting for!
Yes I suspect DXO could not finish features planned for PL7. The whole release does lack major features mostly interface upgrdes
I agree if someone was going from photo lab 5 to 7 would be a great upgrade. But i'm at photo lab six and do not plan to upgrade. Jim
Yes best to wait for some actual new features. Ai masking perhaps?😊
The upgrade I think is for those who find the equaliser widget confusing. I also suspect the real feature upgrades were not finished on time.
I’m passing on 7 because although I’d love to have the new colour calibration features I hate what they have done with the Local Adjustment UI. Nik did the same for a spell but have now made the position of the sliders user configurable. I’m really hoping DxO do the same in PL8 because I much prefer having the controls on the control point/line/brush. (But I do hope they put the local HSL into Nik too!)
Thanks for the feedback. Just to understand you prefer the old equalizer dialog over the more conventional local adjustments panel?
@@takebetterphotos8132 absolutely! It’s right where you need it, much less mouse movement and I don’t need to look away from the image, it’s much more efficient.
ok you are the first to comment you prefer the old interface! I think the problem with the equalizer it was too small. But to each is own!
I saw your first photo of the boy sitting by the pier and I thought... gee that reminds me of Spore. Sure enough your second photo confirmed it. I was also guessing where you're from since you certainly don't sound like a local. I'm guessing you are from the Philippines. Have been out of Spore for 20 years and I still can pick up the vibe just from 1 photo.
Been checking out the DXO site for the new version for 3 months now and finally its up. Currently using ver 5. I'll probably upgrade.
The boy is in shot in Phil though. I have worked in both places. But I guess tropical countries have that same vibe. Yes as someone who has used v5, v6, and v7 I think v5-v7 is well worth the upgrade just for the denoise and new local adjustments panel. I also found they fixed bugs in their control line in v7 which used to make strange errors in v6 but now does not.
good stuff. I had been holding out esp since I no longer do photography regularly. Got Photolab 7 last night at the upgrade price. And yes i'm not surprised there are bug fixes not mentioned.
Looking at a couple of reviews of "whats new" in ver 7, it seems to me v7 is merely the continuation of on going development since the last major upgrade. Version 5 saw significant features. Version 6 added better denoise and now in v. 7 we see further refinement of those features as well as bug fixes.
Their "payment model" is as close to a subscription service without actually being one. So I decided to "upgrade" every other year. I think their "upgrade price" only applies if you are no more than two versions behind. So If I didn't upgrade from v5 to v7, once v8 comes out I will have to pay full price.
@@takebetterphotos8132
Yes exactly it's as close to a subscription without being one. I was surprised by the two version behind requirement. Not sure if this is a new policy for them. Anyway at $99 I think a ton of value there given what other software provides for > $99. I suspect this version will be a success. A lot of people in the comments seem to be upgrading.
yea go read the upgrade fine print. I had an Elite verion of the software 5 years back and they refused support or to give me an upgrade price.@@takebetterphotos8132
I think LUT support reduces the need for filmpack
Yes that would be true
Most of these could be considered fixes and should not be paid for.
Adding the frequency of new releases, this is becoming like subscription by stealth.
I Don't disagree. New updates should include new tools that move the needle not just UI updates. Maybe DXO could not finish what it really wanted on time.
Own PL6 and and gonna stay with it. Upgrade's not worth the money they ask for it.
Thanks for the feedback. I think this upgrade is for PL5 users
would be great if they would support apple pro raw (iphone 15 pro max)
Yes a flaw of DXO for sure. The last iphone they supported was iPhone X so not holding my breath🙂
Attention, la version 7 demande un PC de course, ma carte graphique, une GTX 1050 est devenue partiellement compatible et des lenteurs sont présentes notamment lors de l'export, passant de 8minutes au lieu de 48 secondes en DeePrime XD ! Merci DxO, le PC neuf est offert ???
Yes you need newer graphics card to run all this AI processes else very slow
Is the denoise Dxo pure raw 3 included in photolabs 7? I’m more interested in the Denoise feature of dxo pure raw but if photolabs includes it , then I’ll buy photolab. Currently I’m using capture one for editing raw images
Hello! It id included in photolab 7
Gdyby update kosztowało do 40 Euro to pewnie bym kupił. Ale 109 Euro to dla mnie zbyt wygórowana cena. Lubię ten program ale cena update dla mnie emeryta jest za wysoka.
I understand perhaps you can wait for Black Friday sale. A few viewers have said that's what they will do.
@@takebetterphotos8132 I waited for Black Friday and I still think the upgrade price is excessive. DXO boasts that it reduces prices by up to 50%, but in this case, the transition from PLN 6 to PLN 7, they went crazy with the discount and gave as much as 18% They have a gesture!
Too bad, I'm waiting until November 2024.
i need it so i can use my a6700 raw files. waiting for it to be cracked
You are a patient man!
hey do you think it´s worth to upgrade when i use photolab 6 and nik collection 6?
Its worth an upgrade only if you find the local adjustmentts panel (widget) too small or inconvenient. Or if you need local hsl adjustments. Other than that I would wait for the next iteration.
I have PL6...the upgrade price is a bit high especially since it's in US dollars. At the current rate of exchange PL7 would it me for 150 bucks CDN plus tax so unless there's a big sale...forget about it
That seems to be overpriced. It's supposed to be only 99 USD upgrade price. Why is the disparity so big?
The upgrade from my PL6 Elite to PL7 Elite in Canada is $109.00 USD not $99.00 USD so add the exchange rate in CDN funds brings it to $150 CDN. DxO has to do better for me to upgrade...maybe when a sale happens because there isn't enough in the upgrade to entice me. C'mon DxO do better for Canadians. I'd upgrade if it was $109.00 in Canadian funds.@@takebetterphotos8132
I see, I thought it was 150 USD. Actually, you can wait for Black Friday. Perhaps there will be some deal. There was in the past. 🙂
I'll wait for a sale or upgrade to PL8 next year. PL6 is working just fine in the meantime...cheers!@@takebetterphotos8132
Thanks for the feedback!
I own a version 3 license, no discount for me. I would have to pay full price, I'll pass
Yes apparently only 2 year old will get a discount. Not sure why they do it this way
Maybe wait for black friday.
@@takebetterphotos8132 Sounds like a good idea, I like what they have done with the latest versions. Thank you.
From version 3 to version 7 is four generations of differences that is an enormous upgrade
Yes big upgrade indeed. I have no clue how v3 even works. I started with v5.
I loved DXO photolab 5......bought the upgrade to 6......it wouldn't install. I run windows 10, but for what ever reason.....and I've tried for years, it simply won't update to 20h2 or higher.....it just won't do it....went to install photolab 6.....won't install as my version of windows isn't high enough.......sorry photolab....after spending over $100 on the upgrade, I can't buy another version.....as you simply have some arbitrary code on the install that won't let me install the program.
Just to understand it wouldn't install because of your version of Windows? What version of Windows are you using? Did you check with the DXO helopdesk on this?
@@takebetterphotos8132 I've been trying for years to update windows, it'll do partial updates etc, but could never get from 1909 to ie 20h2, or 22h2 etc......everything on my computer works (for work), every driver runs fine, their is no reason to ie format everything and stop a perfectly good 1950 threadripper, 64gb ram and a 3080 from ie doing anything. The only issue I have is, everything works on my pc, but I simply can't install dx06......so not even going to try dx07.....5 works great, every new game, anything just works.......some arbitary limit with dxo to stop me from installing a newer version when I'd guess that it would work any way is just stupid (in my opinion).....just my 2 cents.
That is very strange. It certainly is not your hardware! In any case you can always download the trial (30 days). Perhaps they've fixed all the issues. Usually it is older hardware that makes DXO slow.
I've found myself using PL6 mostly for preparing images (mostly denoising, modifying tone/exposure, perspective correction) before moving them to Radiant Photo (which I've come to really like). I agree that PL7 doesn't seem a big enough step forward from PL6 for the price that's being asked. A little disappointed. Nice shot of Little India in Singapore, BTW
Thank you. An old photo I finally got some use for 🙂 Yes pl7 feature set is head scratchingly sparse. Perhaps the "real" features didn't get finished in time. DXO does make sure everything is polished before releasing;