Key take-aways - DPS didn't get hit and the bloodbath through AOEs. I tried this with randoms and it was a PITA meanwhile with my raid static we do 12 minute runs.
Nothing would make me happier than seeing content creators like Xeems, Zepla, Mr Happy, Preach, Drak, and Woops start talking about how hilariously bad healer design is in 14. Maybe then the devs will actually listen.
You can do this with Gunbreaker too, thanks to the fact that none of the bosses in this dungeon have strong solo-target mechanics other than tank busters, which you can shrug off anyway. HOC is pretty strong.
I’ve tried this in various dungeons 1 tank 3 dps or 1 healer 3 dps it is much harder with 1 healer tho overall there is less and less reliance on healers for normal content which speaks volumes and i think qualifies for a call of change.
I agree. I think it would be a good idea to make mobs hit either harder, do more aoes, or something. Just make a raason for the healer to be there. I've gone whole dungeons, with only needing to heal maybe like a couple times, when a WAR is my tank lol not complaining, but with having not really an entertaining dps rotation, it's not that fun to do
@@Star-Gazor yepp and with this new update to pallys i never have to heal them either now because every ability they have has a 400 potency heal attached along with the better than regen-regen
I'm a PLD main but WAR this expansion is so fun, this is why WAR is best tank, still enjoy PLD and can play it better than I can WAR but I love them so much
I've usually been pretty ok with low healing demand in dungeons. When you have a shit healer, it shouldn't kill your run. That being said, I would appreciate savage dungeons with actual heal checks.
Yeah I think this would be the best way, bring back hard dungeons or savage mode for them, super hostile, but leave the base level ones there for people who just want to story etc
If the healer is shit of course it should kill your run. If you can kill anything playing badly there's no point of putting any effort in the content. With this reasoning you get people saying since It's easy why should i use any of my buttons or cooldown? I can roll my face on the keyboard and clear why should i learn anything?
Honestly I've always wished the game had harder dungeons but I don't really think they do dungeons that well to begin with. The best dungeons are just a bunch of mini trials with minimal trash Tbh I always kind of wish they leaned into that more. Make dungeons boss gauntlets even more than they already are. Similar to what raids are but smaller in scale
It was a pleasure playing with and against you in pvp the other day Xeno. Not sure if you remember my name but I was ninja a handful of times in some matches with you.
I wish they would bring Scholar and Astrologian back to their roots. Scholar with an actual DPS rotation, and Astrologian with a complicated card mini game. Neither need to be exactly the same as they were before, but I want that gameplay feeling back with them. People who want simple healing would still have White Mage and Sage to fall back on.
Its a crying shame... I'll never understand how people *Enjoy* taking advantage of broken classes/mechanics. Its like showing up to a Knife fight with an AK-47 and feeling accomplished after being the last man standing...
@@Elypsen Ability bloat is something that could easily be fixed. I personally would remove Dissipation and Seraph (Le GASP) because they contribute pretty much nothing to job identity. Keep her on the LB so she feels more special. I would go even as far as removing Excog so it doesn't hog Recitation and honestly rework that, altogether. Take Lustrate and Indom off the aetherflow gauge and give them two shared charges to compensate. You could also give PvE Deploy the PvP treatment to further prevent button bloat while adding Miasma II and two new DPS Aetherflow abilities with the added space. That would give Scholar two dots and a status to play with (that can all be deployed) and two aetherflow abilities that require decision making. Nothing too crazy since of course you'd have to make room for the healing abilities, but having a simple rotation revolving around proper dot management will breathe life into the job.
@@anzeg- Well admittedly I've only run that dungeon twice, and within an hour of the patch release during degen hours. They probably were above average groups since most of us, if not all, had the 605 weapons and iL600. I'm just assuming xeno and everyone in this group was also iL600.
Nice clickbait strummer. You said no healer but you're playing Warrior. Wait until Reddit hears about this! Your career is over. Donezo! The community will be fuming! You can't keep getting away with these clickbaits! Your hair looks nice by the way widepeepoShy
lmao imagine thinking tanking or dpsing in ffxiv is any harder, ffxiv in itself is one big giant easy mode save for ultimates. Honestly don't know what healers ever did to trigger you guys so much, but you can at least try showing respect to the players willing to clean up after your mistakes in harder content.
@@Elypsen Honestly i don't mind the "no healer runs" they are cool and fun to watch, my personal favorite was that all tank clear of UCOB. I just hate it when people start disrespecting and insulting healers, ignoring all the hard work we put in, pretending as if we are braindead. Reminds me of my days playing Mercy in Overwatch, the amount of sheer vitriol i got from other players despite keeping them alive and dealing with genjis and tracers focusing me 24/7. Healers just seem to get no respect in any games.
@@Fallen_Star777 nah they picked healer, they know what theyre getting themselves into, its like telling me to feel sorry for someone who punched themselves in the nuts lmao
@@Fallen_Star777 But... healers are braindead? You press 2 dps buttons 50 times in the encounter, thats your parse. You make a spreadsheet for the encounter and press the healing/mitigation when the spreadsheet says you have to. Literally no thinking needed xD Its the same thing for dps and tanks ofc but dont pretend your doing heavy lifting over here in the easiest MMO on the market xD
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I see the video say “No Healer” but I see that giant WAR symbol.
Based.
Indeed. Click bait. Kappa
Yoshi P: "we had to find a new healer to playtest content because he was getting too good"
At this point they should probably remove the role
too good = hands not broken and functional brain
the ex/savage-level dps raider calling a healer who only completed normal mode 'too good'
Key take-aways - DPS didn't get hit and the bloodbath through AOEs. I tried this with randoms and it was a PITA meanwhile with my raid static we do 12 minute runs.
Nothing would make me happier than seeing content creators like Xeems, Zepla, Mr Happy, Preach, Drak, and Woops start talking about how hilariously bad healer design is in 14. Maybe then the devs will actually listen.
Chair already did one vid. So, who knows if others will follow
Thats how I've been doing Experts for the past 3 months with my FC.
Healer? What Healer? I AM THE HEALER!!!
>thinking we won't notice the SMN spamming Physick
Nice clickbait Kappa
You can do this with Gunbreaker too, thanks to the fact that none of the bosses in this dungeon have strong solo-target mechanics other than tank busters, which you can shrug off anyway. HOC is pretty strong.
Can you use HOC on other players?
@@MrSquigeon Yup! It helps with the two charges of Aurora as well, which can also be cast on others.
>NO HEALER
>Party has a warrior
I’ve tried this in various dungeons 1 tank 3 dps or 1 healer 3 dps it is much harder with 1 healer tho overall there is less and less reliance on healers for normal content which speaks volumes and i think qualifies for a call of change.
I agree. I think it would be a good idea to make mobs hit either harder, do more aoes, or something. Just make a raason for the healer to be there. I've gone whole dungeons, with only needing to heal maybe like a couple times, when a WAR is my tank lol not complaining, but with having not really an entertaining dps rotation, it's not that fun to do
@@Star-Gazor yepp and with this new update to pallys i never have to heal them either now because every ability they have has a 400 potency heal attached along with the better than regen-regen
Time to do this with the other tanks and see how they compare
If you pull less then its probably no issue.
@@Cloudo4 pld can easy do it without problems and gunbreaker can too because hoc is busted only one idk so far is drk
What other tanks? There is only war
Funny how this pops on my recommendation tab after the recent "drama" and how this did not sparked the discussion at the time.
Damn the foreshadowing
*looks at Whm staff*
"I'm done playing with you now"
Didn't even need Holmgang lmao
Excuse me, it says no healer but there's clearly a WAR in the party. That's at least 1 healer I count!
What you mean? Healer is right there holding hammer and spin around :)
And healers gets all the commendations
I'm a PLD main but WAR this expansion is so fun, this is why WAR is best tank, still enjoy PLD and can play it better than I can WAR but I love them so much
I've usually been pretty ok with low healing demand in dungeons. When you have a shit healer, it shouldn't kill your run.
That being said, I would appreciate savage dungeons with actual heal checks.
Yeah I think this would be the best way, bring back hard dungeons or savage mode for them, super hostile, but leave the base level ones there for people who just want to story etc
Might wanna rethink your statement. If it's possible to do this without healers, it ain't the healer that's the issue.
@@wing024 i mean whats your solution mr brain? Just crank up dmg numbers? People always think they know everything better then the devs its hilarious.
If the healer is shit of course it should kill your run. If you can kill anything playing badly there's no point of putting any effort in the content.
With this reasoning you get people saying since It's easy why should i use any of my buttons or cooldown? I can roll my face on the keyboard and clear why should i learn anything?
I wish I had tanks that would put half of the amount of effort as in this video.
"Xeno clears the dungeon for the first time and does with without a healer." I'm no Black Mage main, but "with without?"
Here I'll Medica, casts Shake it off🤣
I swear this dungeon gives me All crash bandicoot vibes :)
Hey, mister xeems strummer bald bearded man. Will we ever get a yt video of some juicy pvp content?
remember for ppl watching, your dps friends gotta be cracking dps hard too
I mean if they had died he'd probably just solo it.
Super fucking inspired by this, HELL FUCKING YEAH!!!!
This video was sponsored by the Holmgang.
Uhhh, I see 2 healers.
clickbait title. there is clearly a Warrior in that group
hell yeah!!
THAT'S IT. i never heal again when i get a WAR in roulette. look what you make me do xeno. Smadge
Dragoon is best job ever
Honestly I've always wished the game had harder dungeons but I don't really think they do dungeons that well to begin with. The best dungeons are just a bunch of mini trials with minimal trash
Tbh I always kind of wish they leaned into that more. Make dungeons boss gauntlets even more than they already are. Similar to what raids are but smaller in scale
It was a pleasure playing with and against you in pvp the other day Xeno. Not sure if you remember my name but I was ninja a handful of times in some matches with you.
Do it as DRK. Then I will be impressed
And of course Yoshi still is going to make damage more nonexistent because "hEalurr anXiette!!!!! QoQ T~T" All that time practicing healer for this...
I wish they would bring Scholar and Astrologian back to their roots. Scholar with an actual DPS rotation, and Astrologian with a complicated card mini game. Neither need to be exactly the same as they were before, but I want that gameplay feeling back with them. People who want simple healing would still have White Mage and Sage to fall back on.
Its a crying shame... I'll never understand how people *Enjoy* taking advantage of broken classes/mechanics. Its like showing up to a Knife fight with an AK-47 and feeling accomplished after being the last man standing...
@@Elypsen Which wouldn't be so bad if we weren't stuck pressing one button.
@@Elypsen Ability bloat is something that could easily be fixed. I personally would remove Dissipation and Seraph (Le GASP) because they contribute pretty much nothing to job identity. Keep her on the LB so she feels more special. I would go even as far as removing Excog so it doesn't hog Recitation and honestly rework that, altogether. Take Lustrate and Indom off the aetherflow gauge and give them two shared charges to compensate. You could also give PvE Deploy the PvP treatment to further prevent button bloat while adding Miasma II and two new DPS Aetherflow abilities with the added space.
That would give Scholar two dots and a status to play with (that can all be deployed) and two aetherflow abilities that require decision making. Nothing too crazy since of course you'd have to make room for the healing abilities, but having a simple rotation revolving around proper dot management will breathe life into the job.
@@PharCryy There is nothing broken in FF, the game is so well balanced its boring. Every job is the same, dps numbers are the same.
This dungeon looking so good for me........its MAN MODE........
nice clickbait strummer we can see that healer in the party list >=(
No healer
... Plays blue healer
I'm just amazed it still took 12 minutes with 3 dps. Those trash pulls died so slowly, virtually no difference between an average duty finder group
Man you've been getting good groups, I get some bottom shelf freestyle samurai that can't do over 3k if their life depended on it
@@anzeg- Well admittedly I've only run that dungeon twice, and within an hour of the patch release during degen hours. They probably were above average groups since most of us, if not all, had the 605 weapons and iL600.
I'm just assuming xeno and everyone in this group was also iL600.
Since when is scholar not a healer ?
You need dps to help you ? What kind of warrior are you !
Try again with a Dark Knight
completely average normal gameplay
not even being ironic, this is how absurd WAR is with some decent gear
but you do have a healer xeno playing it
you can do this on any expert roulette, just don't be bad kappa
Thats the bad part, as a healer main EW was such an easy unsub and uninstall its ridicolous
wym no healer? There's a WAR over there
war + smn 'no healer' doe lulul clickbait
Group has a summoner and a warrior run is rigged.
cant wait to try this with my drk...lol
That's disgusting and shouldn't be a thing in the newest dungeon lol..
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You don't even need a healer in dungeons 😂
BullSHIT no healer. WAR is right there on the screen in front of me
Nice clickbait strummer. You said no healer but you're playing Warrior. Wait until Reddit hears about this! Your career is over. Donezo! The community will be fuming! You can't keep getting away with these clickbaits!
Your hair looks nice by the way widepeepoShy
"Blind" *Knows all mechanics*
Ok asmon..
what mechanics besides "dont stand in bad thing" ?
Bruh, as a scholar main this doesn't impress me. I ain't healing anyway, so how is this impressive. Kappa
People are malding beacuse the healing design of ff14 is literally trash garbage
This video is gonna trigger some salty healers, lmao. "Ohhh, warrior needs nerf, healer just keep pressing 1 dps button"
Its True tho, i dont even heal in p4s just 211111111111111111111
doesn't count if you use a warrior
you liar summoner as Phsyick so you got a healer! .........HAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHHA Phsyick HAHAHHAHAA
Healers are for easy mode players anyways
lmao imagine thinking tanking or dpsing in ffxiv is any harder, ffxiv in itself is one big giant easy mode save for ultimates.
Honestly don't know what healers ever did to trigger you guys so much, but you can at least try showing respect to the players willing to clean up after your mistakes in harder content.
@@Elypsen
Honestly i don't mind the "no healer runs" they are cool and fun to watch, my personal favorite was that all tank clear of UCOB.
I just hate it when people start disrespecting and insulting healers, ignoring all the hard work we put in, pretending as if we are braindead.
Reminds me of my days playing Mercy in Overwatch, the amount of sheer vitriol i got from other players despite keeping them alive and dealing with genjis and tracers focusing me 24/7.
Healers just seem to get no respect in any games.
@@Fallen_Star777 nah they picked healer, they know what theyre getting themselves into, its like telling me to feel sorry for someone who punched themselves in the nuts lmao
@@Fallen_Star777 But... healers are braindead? You press 2 dps buttons 50 times in the encounter, thats your parse. You make a spreadsheet for the encounter and press the healing/mitigation when the spreadsheet says you have to. Literally no thinking needed xD Its the same thing for dps and tanks ofc but dont pretend your doing heavy lifting over here in the easiest MMO on the market xD
There is nothing special to say "without Healer" wenn someone plays Warrior xD