Armored Core: Formula Front Is A Really Unique Handheld Game...

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  • @axsprime
    @axsprime Рік тому +164

    If stuff like Verdict Day and Smash Ultimate have taught me anything, it's that designing/training AI controlled characters and making them fight can be really addicting. Maybe this can come back as a feature in an expansion for AC6 but I doubt it.

    • @notcole
      @notcole  Рік тому +22

      I wouldn't expect them to, but imagine how cool something like that could be with AC6's core gameplay...

    • @inkibucket
      @inkibucket Рік тому +6

      I feel like this could really shine as DLC if it has its own missions and PVP aspects! I know AC6 came out later so it's not really the best comparison, but I honestly feel like a kind of "Handler" to the AI ACs in Formula Front and it'd be really cool to be able to pit your own unmanned mechs against ones other people have made, and maybe even have a mode to spectate/bet against other AI matches

    • @StudioRevoct
      @StudioRevoct Рік тому +10

      AI cockfights are badass

    • @Giga_Hood
      @Giga_Hood Рік тому +1

      You should try monster rancher then

    • @malum9478
      @malum9478 Рік тому +2

      man the verdict day ai designing required like a mfin doctorate to grasp

  • @sixthcairn
    @sixthcairn Рік тому +111

    I loved this game as a kid! It was really nice to see what the Armored Core universe would look like in a world not embroiled in war.

    • @zchen27
      @zchen27 11 місяців тому +13

      My headcanon is that this is the "Good End" for the Gen III. Universe. Dove, Ibis, the Internecine, and the Last Raven all fading into distant memory, and the weapons of war that these fierce legends once used are now but amusements for a new, civilized age.

  • @colbyboucher6391
    @colbyboucher6391 Рік тому +78

    Kinda dig the more colorful sporty aesthetic of Formula Front. It's wild how good PSP games look if you just upscale them.

  • @TheBigHaloFreak
    @TheBigHaloFreak Рік тому +24

    The last version of Formula Front, International, has an additional "international" arena with a lot more opponents. Though, the most fun thing is, BT Wyvern and Team Ogre make a return with new ACs and you get one additional mail when you're being defeated by them.
    Team Ogre just says "I KNEW I WAS ALWAYS BETTER" while BT Wyvern says "Finally, I could surpass you, but I know you're not done. This is just a temporary victory because I know, you'll rise even higher than before"

    • @AWACS_Eagle_Eye
      @AWACS_Eagle_Eye День тому

      You gotta love Linus for being the bro that he is.

  • @brunocar02
    @brunocar02 Рік тому +38

    Awesome video as always, a few notes: there are actually 4 versions of this game, the 2 you mentioned (OG japanese and extreme battle) but there are another 2 that released after each of those: the PS2 version, japanese only and before extreme battle BUT IT HAS A TEAM BATTLE MODE EXACTLY HOW YOU DESCRIBED, and international, a japanese only version that brings all the extreme battle changes + 50 new post game battles, and unlike the PS2 version, this one comes with all the english translation as a setting you can just switch on and off.
    Also, its worth noting that this is the only AC game not fully developed by From, they did all the planning and handed the assets and engine but the development itself was handled by artdink, another note worthy mech game dev, they mostly did macross and gundam licensed games but some of the better ones, however, they made a game for PSX called Carnage Heart, thats essentially this game minus the part where the mechs themselves are premade, you just program them, so it was a match made in heaven for them to essentially make a simplified version of that game on the gen 3.5 AC engine, also, they went on to make a carnage heart sequel on PSP after making formula front thats quite good too.

    • @notcole
      @notcole  Рік тому +8

      I'll have to check out that team battle mode some day, sounds 👌

    • @lesslighter
      @lesslighter Рік тому +2

      Thats interesting considering how ACVD actually baked Formula Front into the main game

    • @Rubafix989
      @Rubafix989 Рік тому +2

      Man thanks for the background info, I loved carnage heart and was thinking about it the whole video.

    • @dhoffnun
      @dhoffnun Рік тому +1

      I literally just commented how this game reminds me of Carnage Heart lol - now I know why!

  • @austinsiu2351
    @austinsiu2351 Рік тому +5

    I just start playing this game a few days ago and I decided to grind with melee weapon only in manual mode. It was super fun. Finding ways to evade the bullets / missiles while getting close to it was super challenging. But when you successfully 1 combo 2 hit KO the opponent, it was super satisfying.

  • @salvoix86
    @salvoix86 Рік тому +9

    Fun Fact: Formula Front International is the most expansive and content-packed version of the game. You will only have to deal with the occasional Japanese menu, but still easy to figure out.
    Edit: Imagine if ACFF had the programing system of Gladiabots AI Combat Arena!
    Pro Tip: setting the AI behaviors and performance to extremes will show you more about how those stats work than minor tweaks. For example, a low navigation performance may barely affect most matches, but leave your u/AC unable to locate the enemy on mountainous terrain!

  • @YukitoOnline
    @YukitoOnline Рік тому +44

    It's just there to somewhat satisfy your cravings for AI vs AI.
    Just like when you want to watch your AI teammates fight the enemies in games both in & out of the AC franchise.

    • @TexasHollowEarth
      @TexasHollowEarth Рік тому +1

      Yeah.... it's why I always skipped this one. Even Monster Rancher 1 & 2 on PlayStation let you give commands to your monster during battle. Their loyalty determined how well they followed said commands. I love those 2 games.

  • @michaelhuss0
    @michaelhuss0 Рік тому +5

    When I beat ACFF originally, I used the manual controls. There are some advantages to manual control, because you aren't limited by the head's AI stats, and you can change tactics at will. The game used the older style controls (pre-Nexus) with vertical aim being AI-controlled to compensate for the limited hardware inputs. I played this so much that, when my PSP had a broken latch, I just taped it shut with this in it.
    However, I eventually wanted to play this on an Android-based emulator, and not having physical buttons gave me a new appreciation for the AI mode. Once you understand it, you don't even really need to use chips. It's a very passive, casual experience that was clearly designed for playing in public with distractions/interruptions.

  • @elliottvantonder5477
    @elliottvantonder5477 Рік тому +13

    In the international version you can pilot the AC as normal and has way more stuff in general.

  • @bonkregulator5237
    @bonkregulator5237 6 місяців тому +1

    Trying to figure out the right build and right AI behavior for an specific opponent is the best charm of this game its literally the perfect "freedom"

  • @Rubafix989
    @Rubafix989 Рік тому +10

    I loved the game, played a lot of multiplayer at school, never knew about the AI system or I just don't remember. But I have fond memory of the duels I had against friends. This was my 1st AC game.

    • @justicetaylor3050
      @justicetaylor3050 Рік тому +3

      Aw man! That must've been more hype then Pokemon battles! While I beat this game I can't imagine how much more fun local wireless multiplayer would've been.

    • @rolandfischer931
      @rolandfischer931 9 місяців тому +1

      Bro same! Beat the whole single player without ai tuning once 😅

  • @kt3y8g4ugutip
    @kt3y8g4ugutip Рік тому +1

    The idea that it would be difficult to control Armored Core on the PSP made this game unique.
    The light soundtrack music and cheerful atmosphere made it an unforgettable experience.

  • @devonwilliams5738
    @devonwilliams5738 Рік тому +12

    I do think you should have covered the manual controls. I know it's not a feature in the Japanese version, but it is a feature in a version of the game, so it should be here. It would have been interesting to see how they mangled the controls to work with fewer buttons.

    • @firemaker1258
      @firemaker1258 6 місяців тому +1

      They work the same as the ones in the PSP versions of 3, Silent Line and Last Raven (not sure if Nexus got a port).

  • @ordohereticus3427
    @ordohereticus3427 6 місяців тому +1

    Visually, this is a phenomenal looking game. It showed the potential of the PSP's visual capabilities that became apparent in titles much later in its life cycle.

  • @Appleeatpie97
    @Appleeatpie97 Рік тому +7

    This makes me wanna give Formula Front another chance and play the way it was meant to be played.

    • @notcole
      @notcole  Рік тому +1

      I would honestly recommend it! It's not the best experience the franchise offers, but it's a fun little distraction 🙂

  • @ROBALHC
    @ROBALHC Рік тому +1

    Dude I wait for this a whole week! Thx!

  • @gokusondbz
    @gokusondbz 9 місяців тому +1

    Still Have This Game on my PSP

  • @azure98
    @azure98 Рік тому +1

    Manual Control despite it being a thing the game actively discourages from using it, the AI, including your own cheat even harder than later AC opponents in the series and can do things and gain bonuses the player can not and if it wasnt enough theres also baked in input lag with an in-universe reason being its because you are piloting the AC via remote control instead of actually being in it.
    But I really did love the AI building in this game, slowly watching your AI get better and better as you tweak it, or worse in some cases and trying again and watching it beat other ACs is an experience different to the rest of the series even if its still rooted in the fundamentals of customization being a core design philosophy.
    And I loved that in that vein the AI system wasnt something separated off from your ACs assembly but both could compliment each other with some part choices on your AC allowing your AI to function better in the way you want it to.

  • @Kozi15
    @Kozi15 Рік тому +2

    AC Formula Front:
    ALLMIND: Let me introduce myself

  • @captainbeatdown6254
    @captainbeatdown6254 11 місяців тому +3

    personally i feel like nine breaker and formula front should be cannon to give life to the people of the world because who wouldn't fight ACs in a Rock'em sock'em robots fashion?

    • @liviekumori
      @liviekumori 11 місяців тому +2

      i think they're just not canon because they don't make sense in the point in time they're in, as in right after the world was basically ending in Nexus... But the arena battles are like that too in the other games, if you read the descriptions of the pilots you'll see that there's a lot of hype and favorites

  • @procow2274
    @procow2274 Рік тому +4

    The chip usefulness definitely depends on the chips in question as some are definitely more effective than others. There is certain ai like a flanker for example that cant be done without the right chips.
    Although that particular fight in the snow against the ac eith vertical missiles and snipers makes a lot of setups not work right.
    On a side note its actually kind of funny and unintuitive how puting 0 points in attack or defense actually makes acs work really well.

  • @bohenian
    @bohenian Рік тому +7

    Imagine AC6 impelementing these mechanics wherein you make an Arena Data (parts and AI) that players can fight (which isn't far off because Carla literally uploaded her data in AllMind whic you can fight).

    • @pikadragon2783
      @pikadragon2783 Рік тому

      All other Arena combatants you fight are reconstructed from battle data by AllMind. Carla got to corrupt her data to leave a voice message. And maybe spectate your match.

    • @bohenian
      @bohenian Рік тому

      @@pikadragon2783 I remember her saying that it's a data she made. But maybe I am wrong.

    • @zettovii1367
      @zettovii1367 Рік тому

      It definitely would be awesome. Imagine there also being a sort of ranking between all players that have uploaded their ACs.
      Maybe setting it apart from normal PvP as rather than fighting yourself, you have your programmed AC fight them instead.

  • @vince3918
    @vince3918 Рік тому +1

    Masters of Arena all over again.

  • @NotThatGuy_YepThatGuy
    @NotThatGuy_YepThatGuy Рік тому +1

    I had this game. It was pretty good for what it was, but it wasnt what i expected from an AC title. The PSP had the power to do more.

  • @JJGoldFalconTHELEGENDOFGOLD
    @JJGoldFalconTHELEGENDOFGOLD Рік тому +2

    Formula Front was the first AC game I tried. I strongly disliked it at the time, since I didn’t bother with many mechanics besides just building something random, then trying to fight with it. I got washed a few times, then gave up, and didn’t touch the franchise again until some time before 6’s original Announcement, where I would play AC MOA, and have an absolute blast. I’m 5 games beaten in, and beating more day by day, and this made me kinda wanna retry playing this game, now that I’m not struggling to understand anything about it like I was so long ago. Really Great Stuff it seems.

  • @trashkitty8736
    @trashkitty8736 Рік тому +1

    Welp- you made me want me to try FF in AI mode, i have been trying to control the acs manually but it hasnt been going well.
    Great video as always, cant wait to see the rest!

  • @samuelsalazar-ik7bk
    @samuelsalazar-ik7bk Рік тому +1

    Oh, my god, no way, this is where the unix system came from i thought it was only acv5 that had this system this is cool to find out

  • @dhoffnun
    @dhoffnun Рік тому +4

    In some ways this reminds me of an old PS1 game called Carnage Heart - you might get a kick out of at least taking a look at that one. The concept they share is computer controlled robots that the player "programs" - but the programming is a lot more complicated in CH.
    Edit: someone else pointed out the developer of CH worked with From on this game, how 'bout that

    • @carlosortigoza99
      @carlosortigoza99 Рік тому +2

      To add to this, there's a Carnage heart on the psp called Carnage heart exa

  • @Gameroomrebel1980
    @Gameroomrebel1980 9 місяців тому

    Great video. I didn't even know An Armored Core game released for PSP

    • @firemaker1258
      @firemaker1258 6 місяців тому

      Not just this one. 3, Silent Line and Last Raven were all ported as well.

  • @eternalinfestation
    @eternalinfestation Рік тому

    Im so excited for the For Answer video

  • @AWACS_Eagle_Eye
    @AWACS_Eagle_Eye День тому

    You know, when I first encountered Linus (BT Wyvern's Architect), I actually thought he was a cool guy. It felt very endearing the way he shares his progress with AC building by contacting me directly.

  • @Palindrome3945
    @Palindrome3945 6 місяців тому

    The Gambit System in Final Fantasy 12 is pretty much the best system to handle an IA I've ever seen in a "non programmer" game.
    Set up condition, set up what you'll do when condition is met.

  • @rockstickcomics
    @rockstickcomics Рік тому +1

    This is NBA Courtside of the AC franchise

  • @MGrey-qb5xz
    @MGrey-qb5xz Рік тому +1

    maybe if they made it backward compatible or release a collection on next gen more people would know about the series in general

  • @thavionhawkmkii4509
    @thavionhawkmkii4509 Рік тому

    This system was first implemented way back on the PSX with Armored Core: Master of Arena's Second Disc. You could design AC's and create AI's for each of them, all of which would form your own Arena. AC FF just makes this system more feature rich.

  • @crimsonshadow1140
    @crimsonshadow1140 6 місяців тому

    while not my first AC game (that being AC4), Formula Front was the first AC game I personally owned, and it’s still my favourite in the series

  • @TexasHollowEarth
    @TexasHollowEarth Рік тому +1

    ... didn't know about the manual control in the U.S. version!? I'll have to give it a try. Thanks Chole 🖐😎👍

  • @SparkingSkeline
    @SparkingSkeline Рік тому

    After finishing this video the game looks very fun and Formula fronts soundtrack is amazing and it slaps. Like I listen to every armored core soundtrack since last year and I'm doing it again now and it's hard to pick my favorite armored core music because a lot of them are masterpieces but still formula front is like my top 5 or 10.

  • @EmeraldFatalis
    @EmeraldFatalis Рік тому +1

    I imported the JP versions of all the Armored Core game durring the PS2, PSP and PS3 eras before they would come to the USA (usually 6 month between release from JP to Eng). I did this because I could never wait for the next game lol.
    Anyway the ability to control the AC in FF was a happy welcome for me. I do like FF's AI tuning better than the later AC5 series' AI sidekicks who learn based on your play style. Problem with the AC5 ones is that they only learn up to a certain point so if you mix your style too much with each match then they will bug out and be dumb.

  • @SaltAceHole
    @SaltAceHole Рік тому

    Can't wait to se ur ac 6 review. it's gonna be sick

  • @pacosrevenge1
    @pacosrevenge1 Рік тому +1

    Definitely heading to my local game store to find this

    • @notcole
      @notcole  Рік тому +1

      good luck friend, these ones can be hard to find these days 😅

    • @pacosrevenge1
      @pacosrevenge1 Рік тому

      @@notcole the local game store where i live has pretty hard to find games im just surprised ive never encountered that psp game back then but i still got my ps1 with memory card with project phantasma and the first ac i like the concept of formula front though i like watching ai fight in games

  • @lokket9995
    @lokket9995 Рік тому +1

    Yep this the game that made me me buy the Handheld PS i was so very excited to play and i was really hyped to make my own 9ball.

  • @justicetaylor3050
    @justicetaylor3050 Рік тому

    I actually never used the AI outside of repeatedly hitting the battle skip button to see if I could cheese the RNG to progress the game easier.
    I played manual control throughout the majority of the game.

  • @Boss_Fight_Index_muki
    @Boss_Fight_Index_muki Рік тому +1

    It's like a mini version of Master of Arena

  • @cowboybarbaryn1302
    @cowboybarbaryn1302 Рік тому

    Despite how different tonally it may be, from someone who hasn’t played the game this seems like it would fit in perfectly. Yet another show of corporate shenanigans, but one much more akin to the entertainment industry. It should be canon I think

  • @grimw5009
    @grimw5009 Рік тому

    I never even knew this game existed.

  • @phylippezimmermannpaquin2062

    I was so bad at this game as a kid. My english was pretty much nonexistent back then so i had no clue what was happening

  • @doomspud6302
    @doomspud6302 Рік тому +1

    The only AC games I have never played are the PSP ones. Mostly because I was never able to find any of them in any stores around me when they first came out. But also because most of them just seemed like worse versions of the PS2 ones I already had.
    I was always curious about Formula Front, though, since it is actually an original game, and not just a port. But since I never really enjoyed the Ranker Maker part of Master of Arena, or training the AI AC in Silent line, it never felt worth it to hunt down a copy. Even if Fake Fever is a sweet theme song.
    But, from your video, It looks like the AI tuning system is more interesting in FF than before. So maybe I'll finally have to grab a ROM and check it out.

  • @sergiomendoza251
    @sergiomendoza251 9 місяців тому

    This is like how arena mode is suppose to be.

  • @ronbird121
    @ronbird121 Рік тому

    immagine the ranks would switch like the other ranks would keep fighting untill thay meet you

  • @4llg00dth1ng5
    @4llg00dth1ng5 Рік тому

    Finally, the best one

  • @its_hammad516
    @its_hammad516 Рік тому

    Thanks for the information 👍❤❤❤

  • @broken_psp_umd_disc
    @broken_psp_umd_disc 5 місяців тому

    You should definitely play carnage heart.
    Like armored core formula front you can have a mech that can be controlled by ai through a series of chips programmed by you
    However unlike formula front, you can also manually control your own mech (if you wanted to do that).

    • @Azure9577
      @Azure9577 4 місяці тому +1

      @@broken_psp_umd_disc formula front has a manual control option that you can use

  • @hex_2384
    @hex_2384 Місяць тому

    Seeing as there is a ps2 version of this game. It does do the wipe all 5 ac team to progress. Story is slightly different but i digress. Would be interesting to see if its close to what you thought there

  • @kaihedgie1747
    @kaihedgie1747 Рік тому

    This along with Ninebreaker, Nexus and V are the only games I haven't played. I feel like Formula Front should have went further with the visuals by letting you add decals to the u-ACs as they were models you messed around like Gunpla

  • @ColtonGamingTV
    @ColtonGamingTV Рік тому

    An interesting game, but I would stick to manual controlling ACs as I just enjoy that more.

  • @TagartTalking
    @TagartTalking Рік тому +1

    Absolutely zero hate intended here.
    I wanted to give some well-intentioned come constructive criticism, please don't take this as an insult, as you're doing a GREAT job here! This IS a good video!
    The way you sort of "lift" your voice at the end of every couple of words is a bit distracting and comes off less confident than I think you really are (And you have every reason to be confident!). It's like you're asking a question every few words and it sort of hits the ear oddly.
    3:38 is a good example.
    "And personally? I think this system is mostly? Best ignored? Since you can never really? Accurately predict? What will be happening?? At like the 30 second? Mark of your match. But! I think that this could have been handled a lot better?? With one simple change."
    Once you hear it, you'll notice it throughout the videos.
    Its -how- you're speaking, not your voice itself. Your voice is lovely and really nice to listen to at length. It's just the inflection. A more even, strong tone and a more confidant cadence, I feel, would help showcase how informed you are in these videos. Keep up the great work, love what you're doing!👍

    • @notcole
      @notcole  Рік тому

      no offense taken, I appreciate the feedback!

    • @tristanward9937
      @tristanward9937 Рік тому

      @@notcolemost don’t care. I didn’t even notice any of this.

  • @dragonknightleader
    @dragonknightleader Рік тому

    Never even heard of this game till I was already playing 4th gen, and while I liked the idea of tweaking my AC to be run by AI, but at the end of the day I only like games like that when I am controlling more then one unit at that point, so I decided to avoid it due to the fact that I could only do this with one mech.

  • @greatlust
    @greatlust Рік тому

    AC: Formula Front (Product Demo, the game)

  • @bongosmcdongos4190
    @bongosmcdongos4190 Рік тому

    I cannot wait for you to get to last raven, in so excited.
    If you don't import, you will suffer. I did that and it was painful.

  • @StrayedGuy
    @StrayedGuy Рік тому

    My favorite thing sbout this game is its auto vertical aim

  • @Hirosama91
    @Hirosama91 Рік тому

    Before you get to play ac4/fa
    for review, and many veterans properly said this already. This is never really said in game and more learned when playing, learn to second stage quick boost when charging your analog triggers!

  • @theautomaticfiend
    @theautomaticfiend Рік тому

    Pretty sure the uac thing comes back in 5th gen.

  • @rolandfischer931
    @rolandfischer931 9 місяців тому

    Brother i loved this game as a kid, beat the whole damn thing without ever tuning one ai 😅😂 didnt know where that menu was i guess

  • @basty_gaming5750
    @basty_gaming5750 Рік тому

    How about Ko-Fi and/or Patreon?

    • @notcole
      @notcole  Рік тому

      I've considered them in the past, but I don't feel like I'm really able to offer enough extra for supporters on those platforms due to time constraints. If people were worried enough about the revenue split I could try to set one of them up 🙂

  • @Petrichorscreen
    @Petrichorscreen 4 місяці тому

    this game is ALSO available for the ps2, except...its only in japanese....

  • @bluewarrior1013
    @bluewarrior1013 Рік тому

    I like the video but there more armored core game on the psp there 4 like armored core 3 SL LR on the psp and the game you play on this video

    • @notcole
      @notcole  Рік тому +1

      yeah I'm aware of the other games that got ported to it, when I say it's the only one developed exclusively for it I just mean it's the only one that was completely designed around being played on the PSP 🙂

    • @bluewarrior1013
      @bluewarrior1013 Рік тому

      @@notcole oh ok now i understan and i like the video and i learn the game how from software want the new experience keep up the good work

  • @brendanmorris2679
    @brendanmorris2679 2 місяці тому

    Hate to break it to you but....
    You are playing a worse version of the game. The International version features more parts, a 5v5 mode, and a direct control. In other worrds, it is a direct upgrade.
    I dont believe its so major a difference, but if you ever do play the 5v5 mode and feel like it, it would be a nice quick 5 minutes tops review.
    Great video by the way, I honestly wrote off AC:FF but I now plan on giving it a try.

  • @robertneilson48
    @robertneilson48 Рік тому +1

    Cole my mom hates me :(