Just wanted to mention to those who don't follow my IG (@scotshot3) that I've only been playing basketball for 3 years. I started making videos because of what I learned while teaching myself to shoot. There's no such thing as a non-shooter, just shooters waiting for the right advice! ✌
I shoot two motion for contested shots or pull ups cause I’m small jump high and like showing off by getting over my defender but if I’m open I shoot one motion and for some reason I make more contested pull-ups with mid-late release time
True Ogre furthermore curry isn’t and wasn’t weak the only player on his team who could deadlift more was Festus Ezelie, he has a 36in vertical which is 4in higher than the average point guard, he’s not an athletic phenom but he’s not unathletic
True Ogre I said 36 can you read? And of course Klay would take Curry’s match ups, if Tim Duncan took David Robinson’s match up does that mean David Robinson’s a bad defender? No just that Tim Duncan’s an elite defender. In my opinion curry is a slightly above average defender that’s too jumpy to ever be an elite defender and that’s why he gets crosses
This is so true. This is y u don’t see Harden and curry shooting turnaround fadeaways. And this is y Klay Thompson sometimes struggles from mid range. This is y derozan cant hit threes. Nice vid explained very well
nah i wish but espn wants idiots who dont know anything bout the game and just read numbers daily. none of them actually analyze it because they were never trainers, former players or coaches. if u noticed all espn analysts cover every sport for example sas, he covers every sport but he was never a pro, and everything he says is so cliche and corny and never anything technical like this
Well unless he wants to rant about looney narratives like an idiot that really have little to do with reality and make outlandish claims with no evidence I don’t think he is ESPN material these days. They are “trendy” and marketed to more casual and less educated fans and this type of stuff doesn’t seem to be appealing to their vision. I think it would be great and educational and be good for fans of all levels at actually really understanding basketball more but that isn’t what they are pushing mostly. Their advanced analysis is just really trash. Not that the staff is incapable of more in depth and meaninful coverage that can also reach broad audience... well at least some of them are capable I would bet, but they frame statistics, analytics, and analysis in a really convoluted cookie cutter way. I’d love to see better or even real analysis in sports journalism more. It just seems to be trending in the opposite direction unfortunately and stuff like this obviously doesn’t mesh with a lot of the baseless insane nonsense they spout off as “analysis” and would undermine their crazy narratives so It seems hard for me to see them wanting something like this. No knock against Scotshot. I think he does a great Job and breaks down very important things you pretty much won’t really hear in the sports media quite well. I just don’t know if ESPN is realistic not because they are so lofty or it’s such a big deal, a major player, but because they don’t seem to want anything like this. But it gives me more appreciation for people like this trying to take a look at things and go over stuff that would otherwise be overlooked or inaccessible to people because it’s good important stuff I wish popular “Sports analysis” did feature a lot more of.
Yesssss!!! This is exactly what I was thinking of just recently! There is no way to shoot a mid-range shot without some hang time, it HAS to be a 2 motion shot! At the same time a 3 point shot can easily be a one motion shot for the same person. Someone finally pointed that out!
Lol only time I change my shot is when I'm shooting fadeaways... Ill change my vertical and speed of release based on the situation and range. But its always toes and shoulders square with the hoop, elbow square under ball. Middle finger pointed at rim on release... From the freethrow to half court I keep the same form
@@JasonBrand79 I got really into it back when i trained at a ymca, played my senior year but just sat the bench, I lacked confidence to be able to shoot well in games.
I've always thought this, and especially with Curry, he doesn't have the second type, late release shot. This is why you never see him taking fadeaways and mid-range jumpshots in traffic (unless he's open off a pick or something), which I think really limits his true offensive potential.
I’m a balanced type player... i like hitting threes and i also love the mid range, that’s why i learn from a lot of mid range specialists like Melo.. it’s important to be versatile and shoot from three point range and also have a good mid range game- like fadeaways and contested mid range shots.i prioratise in having early release timing from three so i can get my shot off quick and efficient and i use late release timing to elevate over deffenders to not get my shot blocked or affected because i’m 5”9😁
I'm glad someone else noticed this phenomenon about shooting ! I would also like to add that you should also have 2 different set points from 2 and 3.For example if you shoot a wide open 3 your set point is probably somewhere around nose / forehead area,but for contested 2's it is better for the set point to be at least above the forehead,so u avoid getting blocked and you transfer power easier.
This is the best video on 1 v2 motion shots and is perfectly explained and extremely informative while others are just confusing with no context on why it’s important and when to use and even what it is at all. Thank you very much
I never heard someone explaining this ever. I totally agree with this concept. Eversince, I practice jump shot in the midrange (releasing the ball on the top of my jump) while doing an early release shot in a longer range. It is just a little difficult to master both with consistency because of a different type of shot.
When practising 3s and mid-range, I just could never figure out why I couldn't get the hang of both types of shots at the same time. Optimal mechanics for each shot just felt drastically different. This video has 100% unravelled this mystery for me. Awesome video, totally agree that 2 types of shots are needed.
i jump higher, don't hold my follow thru often, and don't put as much arc when i shoot mid range. when I shoot threes I dip the ball more, jump less off the ground, jump more forward, shoot higher, and I try to hold my follow thru as often as possible.i can use my 3 pt. form at mid range if wide open but its just easier to shoot the other way due to game speed
you want to practice putting more arc on your midrange since your more likely to have to shoot over defenders. And you don't really want to have a high arc on your 3s as that's more energy required to get the ball to the hoop. But at the end of the day as long as the ball goes in the basket
+Popshot Gaming i overshoot when I hold my followthrough in the mid range- ESPECIALLY from the corner- because i really explode when I pull up. not holding it helps me get it off quicker. (that jerry west shot) I've experimented with trying to hold my follow through constantly but what happens is i get too much power from my jump so i have to release later to alleviate it. you'll notice that players like russell westbrook, paul george, carmelo anthony all explode pulling up at mid so they don't hold their follow throughs either. its just a thing that helps balance out the power for people who jump like that
+Itz Akuma i jump high and release quick (like jj redick) in the midrange so thats how i get my shot off. and when i dont have a high arc for my threes I always come up short and it looks like im realllyy trying with all my might to force it forward and it actually feels like more effort then less
I find changing my shot from one motion to two motion very awkward, so I’ve been training to master my floater for close midrange ( up to around 10-15 feet from the hoop ) then for deeper midrange I noticed my one motion still works fine
your video helped me so much from dont know how to shoot to effortless shooter. thank you very much! i have been struggling for many years. and this turned it around.
I never looked at it this way. I wholeheartedly agree with your vid. When I was learning how to shoot, I had a single shot which is the 2 motion late release shot, which makes it harder to shoot from the 3 point line and beyond.
I can't believe you made a video on this topic!! This is highly informative and valuable for players of all ages! Especially a young player finding their shot! I literally did these tests on my own growing up. I was a mid range shooter cuz I was a high jumper but didn't have the consistent strength for three point shots. I had to do my own research on players by recording the games. I had to GO AGAISNT what my coaches told me growing up. (shoot the same way every time for muscle memory. ) Now we have UA-camrs likes you sharing this! Great job!!
You got that right dude. I am used to perform these 2 types of shots but as we age we have to chose the low jump shot to save our knees and think on long term bball😂
I feel like this is somewhat instinctual, and not only do the release timing changes, the set point, guide hands and all kinds of mechanics change when doing those fade-aways and off-balance shots, at least that's what I found about my own shots.
great video! I was once a coach and a player had the same question why his mid range game was worse than his perimeter game and he was trying to change follow through to accommodate for this and i told him to use less power and release later. I wish I had this video to reference my point. Keep up the good work.
Great video - thank you! One thing I might add though: You don' t shoot with your arm: this is what so many beginners are mistaken - neither the two motion nor really the one motion. You see it so many times on amateur and beginners level that they are throwing the ball rather than shooting it. You do everything with the snap of your wrist and your arm simply follows through.
Thats why they were inefficient shooters from outside, MJ changed his release one season (before the line was shortened) and had a more fluid jump and then shot before the arc not his usual middy and he shot 37% that's kinda elite for a shooter who grew up without a 3 point line.
Since i am getting old i transitioned to a 1 motion shot but realized coming out of the dribble mid range that there is so much Power, no way you can control that. So thx for the video! Both are needed or maybe i quit mid range and work on my paint skills 😂
another point worth mentioning: when doing a catch & shoot, you'll naturally have a good balance when you start the shooting motion, thus an early release shot is great. When you shoot off the dribble, you'll need that split second in the air to find your balance. The pause is great for balancing and aiming in the air, that is when you need the late release shot.
This is so true. I always had a midrange shot but i could never be consistent in 3pt shooting since i tried implementing my mid to my 3 and it was always short. Ever since i trained for a 3pt jumper, ive been good.
You've helped my shot so much, I used to have to put as much power as possible into my three, but now I'm finding that I'm developing too much power and hitting off the back of the iron when I miss. Because of this, I've added a lot more arch and trying to soften it a bit more. I dabbled a little with a thumb flick but I don't feel I need the power and it really complicated the shot, maybe one day. Anyway, I just wanted to say thanks!
I don’t really write comments, but honestly this could be the best shooting video on UA-cam right now so I had to. I always used to think, Why does Devin Booker shoot from such a high set point & on the way down from midrange, but shoots from a lower set point from 3? And why does his set point get even higher the closer he gets to the basket? I was kinda scared to break the mould, but honestly thank you. Every basketball player like myself should watch this. BIG game changer.
This makes quite a lot of sense to me. I make shots from the three point range and when shooting the same way from mid range, the shots are too strong. I thought about it and realized that the ball had to be shot differently from both ranges. I do in fact have an early release shot from deep, but I do see now what I could do differently in order to become more efficient at mid range. Thanks a lot for this video, awesome analysis with evidence, cannot argue with that :)
Very good analysis. It makes a lot of sense. To be a complete offensive player and reach your full individual offensive potential you have to be able to use both- 1 and 2 motion shots. Often if you come of a off ball screen or shoot of the dribble from 3-pt range it becomes a two motion shot as well.
You need a hangtime jumpshot and a quick release (off the dribble or catch and shoot jumpshot). Bruh I love you. I was just thinking this a couple of weeks ago.
nice video to point out some critical differences between shot form required in the two situations. I used to play more in the post and by keeping the ball up it was more a 2 motion but have been opening up my range and the 1 motion shot has been really helpful to add to the tool box. thanks!
yooo this was the validation i needed, my midrange was really good at one point since i was using the 2 motion shot (contested, fadeaways or just pull ups) but with the same shot my 3 pointers was never consistent. I then changed my shot to accommodate the 3 point shot but my midrange suffered especially in games watching this vid makes perfect sense to me as Kyrie one of the best midrange shooters changes his shot. people would always tell me to keep the same shot but even those people weren't good at shooting from both spots as they just focused on 3s n drives. So great vid i'm gonna change my 3 point shooting so as to be great on both.
Man I always had a killer J from mid range but was a below average 3 point shooter.. I had actually started working on a one motion shot for my threes and I thought it helped but some of my teammates noticed that I was shooting two different shots and started to ridicule me so I abandoned the idea. I'm glad to know that this is an actual thing so now I'll go back to working on it.
I have always thought of having two types of shots cause i had struggled shooting a one motion shot for midrange and a two motion shot for 3pt. Thanks for making sure I wasnt wrong. :D
Agreed.. When I shoot beyond the 3 point line (logo range) (thanks to your content) my setpoint is lower than it is midrange... Midrange its just above my left eyebrow.. Logo range its just below my left eye.. And i use more of a dip. Love your shooting breakdown👍🏾
As someone who has switched to the one motion, what i find that works right now is instead of using a 2 motion in the mid range, come to a stop off a downhill move and use a one motion shot from there. Things like pull backs or same leg stops r good for this. If u try a regular 1-2 footwork its very tough to use 1 motion with that. Basically it can be used as a counter to going to the rim and getting cut off...if u get near the free throw line or a step in the paint u might as well float it up tho I think this is good in order to keep continuity in ya form so u don't mix up ya muscle memory. If u can find the balance btwn the two and develop both equally more power to u tho
Good stuff, thanks for pointing it out! I prefer the one motion more and a high-arcing shot. It gives me a better percentage of making the shot and allow my guys to box out, get the rebound and put-back.
This was what I looked into while perfecting my shot. In the mid range shooting it with one motion will usually make u miss more, due to how close u are. That’s why from three having a quick one motion shot is better because u have more control and it allows u to have more range
I sometimes struggle shooting just to keep my shooting form consistent. I used to have a 2 shot motion because it’s nice to look at but have to adjust to a 1 shot motion because younger or taller guys can close out easily if you lack quickness in your release. So a while back decided to shoot a 2 shot motion at closer range and 1 shot motion for long range. I find it weird to have 2 types of shot but thanks to this video.
This vid literally helped me overnight! Watched last night and went to shoot this evening. I struggle shooting long range as I’m short af. (5’2”) I love doing mid range turnaround fade aways a la Kobe/Kyrie and I make a good bit of them but I noticed I shoot them as I’m coming down just like this vid showed. I think I transferred that habit to when I’m shooting regular long range shots and I’m always trying to overcompensate and using too much arm and wrist but not shooting fast and as I’m coming up using my leg momentum. Anyway all this to say I hit a shitload more long range shots and was more accurate rather than flinging it all over the place. Great vid!
Interesting way to break it down. It would also explain that players like Carmelo Anthony, who only 2 motion shoot, have trouble as they get older being consistent since their overall strength is not the same as when they were in their 20s.
I’ve had two shots, but I thought a one shot game would be more consistent. Good thing I watched this before I hit that curry in high school reset, and just started from scratch lol.
Thanks for pointing this out! I see this all the time too, but I don't really have the strength yet to take 2nd motion late timing shots. First motion early timing works for me most of the time, though. So that's what I stick with.
I believe there is also a 2 motion early release option - Larry Bird being the best example - which can provide leg power for deep shots while maintaining a 2 motion release.
Funny I found this video while discovering it for myself. Its true, one is more of a set shot, mostly used on spot ups or stationary shots from three. The other is like the kobe or Jordan type shot, where you pull up in someones face and can elevate and get the shot off in motion or off a dribble. This is what seperates players going from high school to college and college to pros, the ability to use the second shot and get your shot off when using dribble pull ups
This is awesome stuff!! I play college ball and I always struggle on knowing which form to use because I thought I only needed one. But now that you have explained it this way, it makes perfect sense that I have two forms. THANK YOU!
@@andyman8109 hey! I used to play, but I generally would just get in the gym and shoot around after form shooting around the rim and see what felt comfortable from each spot. I would mainly focus on accuracy to the rim regardless of if it was short or long
@@MtZionMediaPro Oh wow so if you shoot like KD on threes than you have 2 motion shot. How do you generate so much power to shoot threes bringing the ball above the head so much? Shouldnt you be doing that in the mid range? Im confused
what a great video! You put into words and explained pretty much the same thing I found out myself while playing basketball over the years. It was really interesting to hear this detailed explanation. I would just add that jumping higher while shooting also helps you to stop on a dime and get your balance better than shooting and releasing ball on the way up. Basically if you want to shoot a pull up jumper (drive - stop - shoot) you pretty much must jump high and have a two motion (apex release) jump shot in order to be more balanced and shot over the top of the defense. Alternative would be a pull back jumper, if you want to stay with 1 motion j-shot.
I have a 3rd interior shot where I extend my arms fully to get above the D and use only follow through to power the ball the short distance to the hoop. A lot of players don't do this and get rejected more often than they should. Grant Williams is a good example of this as he's short and not explosive enough to get his shot off inside without this technique.
I have two shots. One for when I am pretty much open and another if there is the chance a defender might try to block. One shot has a higher arc to it and the other is a bit lower. The lower shot is the more fluid one motion.
i totally agree, i can add that the arm release position differ, first one early release one motion the arm must be about 20-30 degree from vertical so the power of the early release is transferred to the arm in the right direction, if it in vertical position it looses all the power. in the second shot 2 time motion the arm at the release is at vertical level to the ground, because all the jump energy is transferred to the vertical jump and not to the arm, if the arm is inclined you will lose the ball or make a bad shot
This is something I’ve noticed in my own game. I’ve always had a shot 1, so my J from 3 is really good. The thing is, when I try that shot from mid range, I usually have way too much power and just throw it past the hoop. I’ve tried using a late release from mid range but I feel really inaccurate and unstable when I shoot like that, and I almost never shoot well. I’m not really sure what to do bout my mid range
A floater/runner is't necessarily "faster than even a 1 motion shot." The example you showed of Curry was not what I would call a typical floater, because he does not get much height or forward motion on the jump. That looked essentially like a soft jump shot where he was too far to scoop the ball, but he could get off a light jump shot with a quick release. I would posit that the more common/classic floater is more akin to an extreme 2 motion shot. Because of the strong jump and forward motion towards the hoop, you need to input very little power to the ball with your arm. So you can extend the ball farther/higher in the first step. The basic idea I have is that you quickly get the ball as high as you can, as early as you can, starting the reach during the jump and extending the ball to near maximum extension/elevation over your head with just your dominant hand/arm. You now have huge elevation on the ball and it is hard to get blocked. But if you want to have any control over the release, you then have to wait until the extension phase is over with, the ball has settled down in your palm, and you have hit or just passed the apex of your jump. From this point, a tiny bit of lift from the shoulder along with the wrist flip is all you need to finish the motion. Depending on your hop and forward motion/distance, you might even have to kill the wrist flip. Just the little bit of shoulder extension to get the proper arc on the shot, no wrist flip, at all. Just let go of the ball. This is what I consider the classic floater. The beauty of it over a straight up/down late release is (in addition to getting your release higher and closer to the basket) it puts you in perfect position and momentum to crash your own boards, in case you miss. From my own perspective, this is the closest feeling to dunking from the freethrow line that a dude with a 12" vertical will ever get. Up through the moment of relaxation and free-hanging in full extension/height, I imagine the motions are the same you would use to dunk the ball.
There is also a 2 motion early release shot - Larry Bird is the best example - that provides that the needed leg energy for longer shots. Arguably it’s the best of both shot types.
I've learned alot about shooting, what I've come to learn is that you just need to shoot the way that feels comfortable to you. This doesn't mean if you have an ugly jump shot, you stick with it. You need a comfortable yet, effective jump shot and a good release point/arc that you can replicate consistently. From there it's just reps and practice. That's how you become a good shooter.
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Just wanted to mention to those who don't follow my IG (@scotshot3) that I've only been playing basketball for 3 years. I started making videos because of what I learned while teaching myself to shoot. There's no such thing as a non-shooter, just shooters waiting for the right advice! ✌
Scot Shot Basketball i NEDDED THIS VIDEO WAYYY AGO, Thx for clearing this out
I shoot two motion for contested shots or pull ups cause I’m small jump high and like showing off by getting over my defender but if I’m open I shoot one motion and for some reason I make more contested pull-ups with mid-late release time
True Ogre actually curry was also injured when lebron best the 73-9 warriors. And draymond was suspended
True Ogre furthermore curry isn’t and wasn’t weak the only player on his team who could deadlift more was Festus Ezelie, he has a 36in vertical which is 4in higher than the average point guard, he’s not an athletic phenom but he’s not unathletic
True Ogre I said 36 can you read? And of course Klay would take Curry’s match ups, if Tim Duncan took David Robinson’s match up does that mean David Robinson’s a bad defender? No just that Tim Duncan’s an elite defender. In my opinion curry is a slightly above average defender that’s too jumpy to ever be an elite defender and that’s why he gets crosses
This is so true. This is y u don’t see Harden and curry shooting turnaround fadeaways. And this is y Klay Thompson sometimes struggles from mid range. This is y derozan cant hit threes. Nice vid explained very well
Ray Allen’s Jumper harden actually shoots 2 motion shots in the midrange when hes contested
prsla yea I also noticed that very interesting
Curry shot a fadeaway 3 vs clippers before.
Jeremy Argha thats 1 fade away
Ray Allen’s Jumper this season I’ve seen klay shoot a lot of fade-aways and post up mid range jumpers. Or is it just me
I swear this guy is going somewhere, just waiting to see you become a sports anylyst for ESPN.
nah i wish but espn wants idiots who dont know anything bout the game and just read numbers daily. none of them actually analyze it because they were never trainers, former players or coaches. if u noticed all espn analysts cover every sport for example sas, he covers every sport but he was never a pro, and everything he says is so cliche and corny and never anything technical like this
tv sports analysts arent really chosen for how good they are but really how entertaining they are
Victor R sad but true
Well unless he wants to rant about looney narratives like an idiot that really have little to do with reality and make outlandish claims with no evidence I don’t think he is ESPN material these days. They are “trendy” and marketed to more casual and less educated fans and this type of stuff doesn’t seem to be appealing to their vision. I think it would be great and educational and be good for fans of all levels at actually really understanding basketball more but that isn’t what they are pushing mostly. Their advanced analysis is just really trash. Not that the staff is incapable of more in depth and meaninful coverage that can also reach broad audience... well at least some of them are capable I would bet, but they frame statistics, analytics, and analysis in a really convoluted cookie cutter way.
I’d love to see better or even real analysis in sports journalism more. It just seems to be trending in the opposite direction unfortunately and stuff like this obviously doesn’t mesh with a lot of the baseless insane nonsense they spout off as “analysis” and would undermine their crazy narratives so It seems hard for me to see them wanting something like this. No knock against Scotshot. I think he does a great Job and breaks down very important things you pretty much won’t really hear in the sports media quite well. I just don’t know if ESPN is realistic not because they are so lofty or it’s such a big deal, a major player, but because they don’t seem to want anything like this.
But it gives me more appreciation for people like this trying to take a look at things and go over stuff that would otherwise be overlooked or inaccessible to people because it’s good important stuff I wish popular “Sports analysis” did feature a lot more of.
He’s not analyzing like ESPN. His is more like how are trainer analyzes
I already had two shots and it was working but I wanted to make sure that two shots is actually a thing
Aayush Patel same
Even if it wasn't, if it works, don't fix it
Same
if it works its a thing
i had 2 since i was 12, have 3 now
I have a friend who shoots before he jumps. 0 motion shot.
nah he just lagging
yeah he’s getting delayed
is he connected via ethernet?
2k LOL
@Nicholas Garcia dota player？
I’ve always thought of this. Crazy that you made a vid on it. This is why I believe that kyrie Irving has the best shot form in the league
I also struggle mid range because I have too much power behind my one motion shot
Lower ur setpoint in midrange that works for me
Miztos or make ur release quicker
Hxwell lowering my set point would just add power to my shot.
Miztos on midrange ELEVATE bend knees and flick wrist
I just started using two different jumpshots one for mid range and one for three! Perfect timing.
Yesssss!!! This is exactly what I was thinking of just recently! There is no way to shoot a mid-range shot without some hang time, it HAS to be a 2 motion shot! At the same time a 3 point shot can easily be a one motion shot for the same person. Someone finally pointed that out!
I needed this kind of validation so much! hahaha
Steph Curry’s the only one I see that can do it in one motion like that.
darkrainne 679 lmao he definitely can just not as good as kyrie
I do the same exact thing, wow..
klay looks like he has basically the same shot in midrange except he raises his setpoint in midrange
J M if I noticed the good shooters have the same jump shot because ur supposed to use leg strength and core strength to shoot not ur upper body
Lol only time I change my shot is when I'm shooting fadeaways... Ill change my vertical and speed of release based on the situation and range. But its always toes and shoulders square with the hoop, elbow square under ball. Middle finger pointed at rim on release... From the freethrow to half court I keep the same form
Because most times for an experienced shooter there doesnt have to be much difference between the two
@@itz_akuma lol right
@@shadowmotive2453 i only just started using my core to shoot aswell
Ive realized i have 2 types of shots (3s vs in the paint) glad to know it may actually be a positive thing!
Ayooooo
You a hooper Kenny?
@@JasonBrand79 I got really into it back when i trained at a ymca, played my senior year but just sat the bench, I lacked confidence to be able to shoot well in games.
Amazing video Seumas! Glad I could inspire this video! Can’t wait to talk more about this in the future! Great analysis
I've always thought this, and especially with Curry, he doesn't have the second type, late release shot. This is why you never see him taking fadeaways and mid-range jumpshots in traffic (unless he's open off a pick or something), which I think really limits his true offensive potential.
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I’m a balanced type player... i like hitting threes and i also love the mid range, that’s why i learn from a lot of mid range specialists like Melo.. it’s important to be versatile and shoot from three point range and also have a good mid range game- like fadeaways and contested mid range shots.i prioratise in having early release timing from three so i can get my shot off quick and efficient and i use late release timing to elevate over deffenders to not get my shot blocked or affected because i’m 5”9😁
Not OPTIONAL but OPTIMAL
scotshot spitting out 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
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I'm glad someone else noticed this phenomenon about shooting ! I would also like to add that you should also have 2 different set points from 2 and 3.For example if you shoot a wide open 3 your set point is probably somewhere around nose / forehead area,but for contested 2's it is better for the set point to be at least above the forehead,so u avoid getting blocked and you transfer power easier.
Kobe used two motion to shoot 3s, which in my opinion, was a piece of beautiful artwork too
Same thing pro shot and bballbreakdown have been preaching for years. So glad to see it finally spreading
This explains why I make more wide open 3s than mids
It's kobe he's not human
carl reuben fedelin rip
lmao same, i struggle with making mid shots while hitting all my threes.
Devon booker is also a really good example of this
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This is the best video on 1 v2 motion shots and is perfectly explained and extremely informative while others are just confusing with no context on why it’s important and when to use and even what it is at all. Thank you very much
4:55 classic Javale.
Lol mans playing soccer out there
I never heard someone explaining this ever. I totally agree with this concept. Eversince, I practice jump shot in the midrange (releasing the ball on the top of my jump) while doing an early release shot in a longer range. It is just a little difficult to master both with consistency because of a different type of shot.
I was thinking about this like 3 months ago and didn't know if to do it, this video helped.
When practising 3s and mid-range, I just could never figure out why I couldn't get the hang of both types of shots at the same time. Optimal mechanics for each shot just felt drastically different. This video has 100% unravelled this mystery for me. Awesome video, totally agree that 2 types of shots are needed.
i jump higher, don't hold my follow thru often, and don't put as much arc when i shoot mid range. when I shoot threes I dip the ball more, jump less off the ground, jump more forward, shoot higher, and I try to hold my follow thru as often as possible.i can use my 3 pt. form at mid range if wide open but its just easier to shoot the other way due to game speed
Maximillian lol wtf i do the opposite, no jump and low arc mid range, jump and higher arc on 3s
you want to practice putting more arc on your midrange since your more likely to have to shoot over defenders. And you don't really want to have a high arc on your 3s as that's more energy required to get the ball to the hoop. But at the end of the day as long as the ball goes in the basket
Make sure you make that follow through! It'll be all the difference.
+Popshot Gaming i overshoot when I hold my followthrough in the mid range- ESPECIALLY from the corner- because i really explode when I pull up. not holding it helps me get it off quicker. (that jerry west shot) I've experimented with trying to hold my follow through constantly but what happens is i get too much power from my jump so i have to release later to alleviate it. you'll notice that players like russell westbrook, paul george, carmelo anthony all explode pulling up at mid so they don't hold their follow throughs either. its just a thing that helps balance out the power for people who jump like that
+Itz Akuma i jump high and release quick (like jj redick) in the midrange so thats how i get my shot off. and when i dont have a high arc for my threes I always come up short and it looks like im realllyy trying with all my might to force it forward and it actually feels like more effort then less
I find changing my shot from one motion to two motion very awkward, so I’ve been training to master my floater for close midrange ( up to around 10-15 feet from the hoop ) then for deeper midrange I noticed my one motion still works fine
I've supporting this all my life!!!Thanks for noticing it out too. Shooting genius, for real, keep the work, you can become very good.
your video helped me so much from dont know how to shoot to effortless shooter. thank you very much! i have been struggling for many years. and this turned it around.
You're blessed with intelligence
And I'm grateful that you decided to put a lot of time and work and effort into making videos
I never looked at it this way. I wholeheartedly agree with your vid. When I was learning how to shoot, I had a single shot which is the 2 motion late release shot, which makes it harder to shoot from the 3 point line and beyond.
I can't believe you made a video on this topic!! This is highly informative and valuable for players of all ages! Especially a young player finding their shot! I literally did these tests on my own growing up. I was a mid range shooter cuz I was a high jumper but didn't have the consistent strength for three point shots. I had to do my own research on players by recording the games. I had to GO AGAISNT what my coaches told me growing up. (shoot the same way every time for muscle memory. ) Now we have UA-camrs likes you sharing this! Great job!!
You got that right dude. I am used to perform these 2 types of shots but as we age we have to chose the low jump shot to save our knees and think on long term bball😂
I feel like this is somewhat instinctual, and not only do the release timing changes, the set point, guide hands and all kinds of mechanics change when doing those fade-aways and off-balance shots, at least that's what I found about my own shots.
Birdy Franky it kind of is... if someone’s in my face for a mid range I’ll hold the ball longer when i shoot
Finally someone pointed this out, coached always say your shot should never change.
So many people need to see this video
great video! I was once a coach and a player had the same question why his mid range game was worse than his perimeter game and he was trying to change follow through to accommodate for this and i told him to use less power and release later. I wish I had this video to reference my point. Keep up the good work.
Great video - thank you!
One thing I might add though: You don' t shoot with your arm: this is what so many beginners are mistaken - neither the two motion nor really the one motion. You see it so many times on amateur and beginners level that they are throwing the ball rather than shooting it.
You do everything with the snap of your wrist and your arm simply follows through.
I noticed this from shooting a lot and I'm still developing my game so thank u for helping me completely put my finger on it
Kobe and MJ were special I guess because they had the same 2 motion shot from mid range and three
They had 2 motion shots, but the rythm was different from midrange and for 3
Thats why they were inefficient shooters from outside, MJ changed his release one season (before the line was shortened) and had a more fluid jump and then shot before the arc not his usual middy and he shot 37% that's kinda elite for a shooter who grew up without a 3 point line.
@@GameChanger-xi4iy I was amazed that MJ in 96-97 sans wrist and finger injury shot better than Klay from 10-16ft and 16-3p..
Since i am getting old i transitioned to a 1 motion shot but realized coming out of the dribble mid range that there is so much Power, no way you can control that. So thx for the video! Both are needed or maybe i quit mid range and work on my paint skills 😂
Thank you for this. I noticed my form is different when fading and pulling up vs Standing 3s/Mids
another point worth mentioning: when doing a catch & shoot, you'll naturally have a good balance when you start the shooting motion, thus an early release shot is great. When you shoot off the dribble, you'll need that split second in the air to find your balance. The pause is great for balancing and aiming in the air, that is when you need the late release shot.
Yes this is another factor
This so true ive been teaching my son to shoot types of shots and this just confirms we on the right track
This is so true. I always had a midrange shot but i could never be consistent in 3pt shooting since i tried implementing my mid to my 3 and it was always short. Ever since i trained for a 3pt jumper, ive been good.
You are so right. This is why great mid-range shooters like Kobe and Jordan only shoot 33% from downtown. They only shoot the 2 motion shots.
You've helped my shot so much, I used to have to put as much power as possible into my three, but now I'm finding that I'm developing too much power and hitting off the back of the iron when I miss. Because of this, I've added a lot more arch and trying to soften it a bit more. I dabbled a little with a thumb flick but I don't feel I need the power and it really complicated the shot, maybe one day.
Anyway, I just wanted to say thanks!
I don’t really write comments, but honestly this could be the best shooting video on UA-cam right now so I had to. I always used to think, Why does Devin Booker shoot from such a high set point & on the way down from midrange, but shoots from a lower set point from 3? And why does his set point get even higher the closer he gets to the basket? I was kinda scared to break the mould, but honestly thank you. Every basketball player like myself should watch this. BIG game changer.
This makes quite a lot of sense to me. I make shots from the three point range and when shooting the same way from mid range, the shots are too strong. I thought about it and realized that the ball had to be shot differently from both ranges. I do in fact have an early release shot from deep, but I do see now what I could do differently in order to become more efficient at mid range. Thanks a lot for this video, awesome analysis with evidence, cannot argue with that :)
I already knew this but never thought about it too much or put it into words
Very good analysis. It makes a lot of sense. To be a complete offensive player and reach your full individual offensive potential you have to be able to use both- 1 and 2 motion shots. Often if you come of a off ball screen or shoot of the dribble from 3-pt range it becomes a two motion shot as well.
I reached the same conclusion just bricking shot after shot from both ranges so... legit advice. :D
You need a hangtime jumpshot and a quick release (off the dribble or catch and shoot jumpshot). Bruh I love you. I was just thinking this a couple of weeks ago.
Make Humanity Great Again for threes just please shoot with a low jump
This so true I’ve been wanting to explain this to my brother, I have actually seen my self doing this but wondered why.
nice video to point out some critical differences between shot form required in the two situations. I used to play more in the post and by keeping the ball up it was more a 2 motion but have been opening up my range and the 1 motion shot has been really helpful to add to the tool box. thanks!
yooo this was the validation i needed, my midrange was really good at one point since i was using the 2 motion shot (contested, fadeaways or just pull ups) but with the same shot my 3 pointers was never consistent. I then changed my shot to accommodate the 3 point shot but my midrange suffered especially in games watching this vid makes perfect sense to me as Kyrie one of the best midrange shooters changes his shot. people would always tell me to keep the same shot but even those people weren't good at shooting from both spots as they just focused on 3s n drives. So great vid i'm gonna change my 3 point shooting so as to be great on both.
Man I always had a killer J from mid range but was a below average 3 point shooter.. I had actually started working on a one motion shot for my threes and I thought it helped but some of my teammates noticed that I was shooting two different shots and started to ridicule me so I abandoned the idea. I'm glad to know that this is an actual thing so now I'll go back to working on it.
This video is great and has truth to it. I thought i was the only one who thought of this.
I have always thought of having two types of shots cause i had struggled shooting a one motion shot for midrange and a two motion shot for 3pt. Thanks for making sure I wasnt wrong. :D
Such a free thinker. I love it bro!
Agreed.. When I shoot beyond the 3 point line (logo range) (thanks to your content) my setpoint is lower than it is midrange... Midrange its just above my left eyebrow.. Logo range its just below my left eye.. And i use more of a dip. Love your shooting breakdown👍🏾
As someone who has switched to the one motion, what i find that works right now is instead of using a 2 motion in the mid range, come to a stop off a downhill move and use a one motion shot from there. Things like pull backs or same leg stops r good for this. If u try a regular 1-2 footwork its very tough to use 1 motion with that. Basically it can be used as a counter to going to the rim and getting cut off...if u get near the free throw line or a step in the paint u might as well float it up tho
I think this is good in order to keep continuity in ya form so u don't mix up ya muscle memory. If u can find the balance btwn the two and develop both equally more power to u tho
I completely understand what your saying, I’m glad I’ve came across this video
So glad you made this video. Wondering this most of my life.
Good stuff, thanks for pointing it out!
I prefer the one motion more and a high-arcing shot. It gives me a better percentage of making the shot and allow my guys to box out, get the rebound and put-back.
This was what I looked into while perfecting my shot. In the mid range shooting it with one motion will usually make u miss more, due to how close u are. That’s why from three having a quick one motion shot is better because u have more control and it allows u to have more range
I agree but I just feel like the set point changes
yes and the earlier release right?
The art of competition yep
Yes
Your set point shouldn't change cause then that's completely changing your shot
Idk but thats what works for me but in the end its all about practice and muscle memory
i would love to hear another video explaining this concept it makes so much since
Thqnks for the tip. Im already training on it!!!
I have a different shot for the corners and for the wings and top of the key and it works out extremely well
I sometimes struggle shooting just to keep my shooting form consistent. I used to have a 2 shot motion because it’s nice to look at but have to adjust to a 1 shot motion because younger or taller guys can close out easily if you lack quickness in your release. So a while back decided to shoot a 2 shot motion at closer range and 1 shot motion for long range. I find it weird to have 2 types of shot but thanks to this video.
I have a one motion show when open and from the three.
A two motion when shooting fadeaways and such.
duhh you can't shoot a 1 motion on a fade it will be block
@@ronmo1493 it just has to high an quick enough
This vid literally helped me overnight! Watched last night and went to shoot this evening. I struggle shooting long range as I’m short af. (5’2”) I love doing mid range turnaround fade aways a la Kobe/Kyrie and I make a good bit of them but I noticed I shoot them as I’m coming down just like this vid showed. I think I transferred that habit to when I’m shooting regular long range shots and I’m always trying to overcompensate and using too much arm and wrist but not shooting fast and as I’m coming up using my leg momentum. Anyway all this to say I hit a shitload more long range shots and was more accurate rather than flinging it all over the place. Great vid!
Interesting way to break it down. It would also explain that players like Carmelo Anthony, who only 2 motion shoot, have trouble as they get older being consistent since their overall strength is not the same as when they were in their 20s.
I’ve had two shots, but I thought a one shot game would be more consistent. Good thing I watched this before I hit that curry in high school reset, and just started from scratch lol.
Thanks for pointing this out! I see this all the time too, but I don't really have the strength yet to take 2nd motion late timing shots. First motion early timing works for me most of the time, though. So that's what I stick with.
thats why I miss mid range shots I also thought about having two jumpshots but thanks for confirming it
i have two shots and i thought it was just a weird thing i did but it feels good knowing that it is actually a good thing
This is an extremely valuable video.
I believe there is also a 2 motion early release option - Larry Bird being the best example - which can provide leg power for deep shots while maintaining a 2 motion release.
SHHH don't give everyone the secrets lol 😂
Funny I found this video while discovering it for myself. Its true, one is more of a set shot, mostly used on spot ups or stationary shots from three. The other is like the kobe or Jordan type shot, where you pull up in someones face and can elevate and get the shot off in motion or off a dribble. This is what seperates players going from high school to college and college to pros, the ability to use the second shot and get your shot off when using dribble pull ups
This is awesome stuff!! I play college ball and I always struggle on knowing which form to use because I thought I only needed one. But now that you have explained it this way, it makes perfect sense that I have two forms. THANK YOU!
Bro fr dude you college ball? Dude can you tell me if you use 1 motion for threes and 2 motion for mid range
@@andyman8109 hey! I used to play, but I generally would just get in the gym and shoot around after form shooting around the rim and see what felt comfortable from each spot. I would mainly focus on accuracy to the rim regardless of if it was short or long
@@andyman8109 sometimes my mid-range is more like a floater, and my three would come over my head a lot higher like Kevin Durant
@@MtZionMediaPro Oh wow so if you shoot like KD on threes than you have 2 motion shot. How do you generate so much power to shoot threes bringing the ball above the head so much? Shouldnt you be doing that in the mid range? Im confused
@@MtZionMediaPro Ohh ok thank you bro
what a great video! You put into words and explained pretty much the same thing I found out myself while playing basketball over the years. It was really interesting to hear this detailed explanation. I would just add that jumping higher while shooting also helps you to stop on a dime and get your balance better than shooting and releasing ball on the way up. Basically if you want to shoot a pull up jumper (drive - stop - shoot) you pretty much must jump high and have a two motion (apex release) jump shot in order to be more balanced and shot over the top of the defense. Alternative would be a pull back jumper, if you want to stay with 1 motion j-shot.
Good point about helping to control your momentum on the move
Bravo man 👏🏿👏🏿. I’ve never learned so much from a basketball video before
I thought I was weird having two kinds of shots, thanks for the info
I have a 3rd interior shot where I extend my arms fully to get above the D and use only follow through to power the ball the short distance to the hoop. A lot of players don't do this and get rejected more often than they should. Grant Williams is a good example of this as he's short and not explosive enough to get his shot off inside without this technique.
I have two shots. One for when I am pretty much open and another if there is the chance a defender might try to block. One shot has a higher arc to it and the other is a bit lower. The lower shot is the more fluid one motion.
Thank you so much, I really needed to hear this
i totally agree, i can add that the arm release position differ, first one early release one motion the arm must be about 20-30 degree from vertical so the power of the early release is transferred to the arm in the right direction, if it in vertical position it looses all the power.
in the second shot 2 time motion the arm at the release is at vertical level to the ground, because all the jump energy is transferred to the vertical jump and not to the arm, if the arm is inclined you will lose the ball or make a bad shot
I'm getting use to my shot 2.. i can use it effectively when i want but i try to train my shot 1 to be more effective
That's why I get to the gym and got my fade and mid-range like gold and my three feels odd and inconsistent
This is something I’ve noticed in my own game. I’ve always had a shot 1, so my J from 3 is really good. The thing is, when I try that shot from mid range, I usually have way too much power and just throw it past the hoop. I’ve tried using a late release from mid range but I feel really inaccurate and unstable when I shoot like that, and I almost never shoot well. I’m not really sure what to do bout my mid range
5 years later, floaters man
Once you have mastered the two jumpshots you unlock the third: the one motion jumpshot with a lower set point so you can shoot from beyond 30 feet
steph curry uses a step back and early release or floater instead of a jordan style fadeaway
use early release / legs for 3 pt
A floater/runner is't necessarily "faster than even a 1 motion shot." The example you showed of Curry was not what I would call a typical floater, because he does not get much height or forward motion on the jump. That looked essentially like a soft jump shot where he was too far to scoop the ball, but he could get off a light jump shot with a quick release.
I would posit that the more common/classic floater is more akin to an extreme 2 motion shot. Because of the strong jump and forward motion towards the hoop, you need to input very little power to the ball with your arm. So you can extend the ball farther/higher in the first step. The basic idea I have is that you quickly get the ball as high as you can, as early as you can, starting the reach during the jump and extending the ball to near maximum extension/elevation over your head with just your dominant hand/arm. You now have huge elevation on the ball and it is hard to get blocked. But if you want to have any control over the release, you then have to wait until the extension phase is over with, the ball has settled down in your palm, and you have hit or just passed the apex of your jump. From this point, a tiny bit of lift from the shoulder along with the wrist flip is all you need to finish the motion. Depending on your hop and forward motion/distance, you might even have to kill the wrist flip. Just the little bit of shoulder extension to get the proper arc on the shot, no wrist flip, at all. Just let go of the ball. This is what I consider the classic floater. The beauty of it over a straight up/down late release is (in addition to getting your release higher and closer to the basket) it puts you in perfect position and momentum to crash your own boards, in case you miss.
From my own perspective, this is the closest feeling to dunking from the freethrow line that a dude with a 12" vertical will ever get. Up through the moment of relaxation and free-hanging in full extension/height, I imagine the motions are the same you would use to dunk the ball.
This information was gold
There is also a 2 motion early release shot - Larry Bird is the best example - that provides that the needed leg energy for longer shots. Arguably it’s the best of both shot types.
I've learned alot about shooting, what I've come to learn is that you just need to shoot the way that feels comfortable to you. This doesn't mean if you have an ugly jump shot, you stick with it. You need a comfortable yet, effective jump shot and a good release point/arc that you can replicate consistently. From there it's just reps and practice. That's how you become a good shooter.
Man! you are the man who save my day. I always use these two shots but I'm just sooooo not sure if one should do it.
Thank god I found this I've been trying so hard to stick to one shot