All-Weather Scooters: BMW C1 & Adiva Review
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- Опубліковано 11 жов 2024
- Francesca Robinson and Richard Hammond put two all-weather scooters to the test - BMW C1 and the Adiva, to find out if the weather protection really makes a difference or is it just a glorified scooter.
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Just to say that I have had my adiva 150 for about 5 years and I find it to be one of those scooter concepts that people might find a bit of a joke until they realize in the real world that it is a fantastic scooter that actually works brilliantly. I even bought another one and am doing that up for my son who also loves the concept. I have had all typeshe of motorbikes and scooters including all the Bmw c1 versions and I ended up still getting rid of them and kept the Benelli adiva. They are worth their weight in gold and if you have an opportunity to own one...Just get it and once you get over the stares and people pointing then asking you all about it, you will realise that it is one of the best decisions you ever made for transporting you from a to b in all weathers and traffic conditions
How much is it?
I've been a C1 owner since 2001 and have to say I still think the bike's great after 12 years. I feel it's had a bit of an unfair representation here. A few things come to mind.
1. The seat belts are for your safety and you normally put your helmet on before you strap yourself in.
2. The roof doesn't come off because that's all part of the roll cage/safety cell.
3. It isn't a plastic screen but a glass one complete with washer/wipers and air vents.
4. The C1 has Brembo ABS brakes which the Adiva doesn't.
5. The C1 does have space for a stereo and locking glove box.
6. An aftermarket weather kit is available.
Now I'm not saying the C1 is going to be everyone's cup of tea but it's certainly better than it's made out to be here.
Have you ever had a normal scooter? Because in my mind I can't come up with a single reason why this should be preferable to a normal 125cc scooter. Maybe one thing: it doesn't get your suit wet or wrinkled. So basically it's for people who wear suits to work and don't want to drive a car. That's a pretty niche market.
IsawUupThere
I have been on other scooters and hold a full bike licence. The reason I initially got the C1 was the safety features. Side impact protection. Front and rear crumple zones. Seatbelts and ABS brakes. I've been clipped a couple of times twice by cars and once by a van and the worse I had to show for it was a slight mark on my trousers (not bowels) and one of the side pods being knocked off. One of the cars, a Merc A class, didn't look so good!
I appreciate this is definitely a 'Marmite' bike though. I just happen to be in the 'Love it' category.
Personally I wouldn't just wear a suit on the bike though. I wear a Cordura bike jacket, as you still need armoured shoulders and elbows and some weather protection (it's not exactly a full 360° bubble you're in)
All this said, I am looking at other, bigger, bikes at the moment, for longer rides/tours... and won't be able to afford a new one without selling the old :(
Graham Baker The ABS is a really good point, you have to get a top of the line scooter in 2014 to get ABS, which is a bit stupid. I could see this kind of concept work better as a long distance commuter. If I had to ride 100km to work every day I would seriously consider something like this, but it would benefit from a slightly bigger engine. I do think you can take this touring though, especially in england (guessing england because marmite reference) - you're no slower than a caravan and the top speed should be fine for most roads. Realistically you're not going faster than 60mph on a chopper either and people take those everywhere.
I definitely think it would benefit from a larger, livelier engine. Say 300-400cc? 125cc is okay and capable of 60mph but that's getting towards the very limit of what it's got and there's not much left for those 'get me out of this situation' moments. Also, I use the bike for a 15 mile commute twice a day into London and sometimes after an hour in the seat the old bum can get a bit numb. Still love the bike though. :)
@@grahambaker5092
Just seen this
And I like it
I do a 20 mile round trip to work and with fuel prices now so much.
How many miles does it do to a full tank.
If they had only put more thought into wheel size and power output this would have been a winner.
The music hahaha 😂😂
Think about it? Obviously he didn't, just because the rain is coming from the side doesn't mean you'll get wet. The wind creates a vortex either side of the bike when traveling at speed allowing very little if any into the cockpit.
Might as well add some doors, a heater and a bigger engine 😂 that shit would be lit...
A car requires 4-5 times more parking space.
@@WilliamJones-Halibut-vq1fs Upscaling it from a 125 to say a 1250 would make a lot of sense though. The big problem with the C1 was it was heavy and underpowered. However, if it had the same engine as an RT it wouldn't matter that it weighed just as much as one.
Thank you for having a brain before making a useless product that already costs more than a car..
If it's not 200cc gas.. It's going too far.. And it's a toy for a rich kid.
That's what I'm saying though.. It's just too cold and why rainproof it so inconclusively?
... But they already want more than an extra 3K for all of it's useless features.
You’re still gonna get rained on while riding this, but if you don’t like rain you might as well just get a car.
I've been riding a C1 for 16 years now. I love her. The main point is: safety. She has a safety frame around the rider, providing pretty much protection.
Is it reliable? Or is it a... typical unreliable BMW?
@@stepha5926She definitely has problems, not as reliable as a Japanese. But a good mechanic who know the type and is not only a part exchanger can handle everything.
What a hopeless demo. I learnt no more form this twaddle than if I'd simply looked at them myself. I actually bought a Benelli Adiva because I worked as a courier and spending over 10 hours in the saddle in pouring rain has always been my idea of pergatory. So I kept my Honda CB250 for sunshine and the Adiva for the rain. I chose the Adiva because as a multi-drop delivery vehicle it wins hands-down. It comes with a surprisingly capacious boot as standard (on the BMW it's an optional extra for several hundred quid). It comes with a `dual' seat that's a bit of a squeeze, but serves as an excellent additional platform for carrying stuff which you can wedge in place with your bum. Once again; a passenger seat is a costly optional extra on the BM. It also has main and prop-stands, so you can hop-on-and-off whatever the camber, whilst the BMW rider has to arse about with his levers and seatbelt. There's two handy chuck-in pockets for odds and sods (but stuff in there will get wet) in the dashboard, and there's a great gap between the top of the dash and the windscreen for putting maps/clipboard/newspapers/sweets which remain absolutely dry. It's not as quick or as fast as the BMW, but its a 100lbs lighter, and the Rotax engine of the latter is so highly-tuned that breakdowns are not uncommon. After almost 80,000 miles and over 15 years, Piaggio's Leader engine is still going strong. The Targa top is a great extra feature and there's still plenty of room with the roof tucked away. It's also as pretty as Sophia Loren compared to the Bavarian Frankenstien. Biggest down side on the Adiva is the effect of winds - they can blow you about pretty badly; the BMW was subjected to extensive wind-tunnel testing, and it shows. It's also very light and on one occasion was actually blown along on its mainstand on a smooth surface. I had to get another courier to sit on it while I mader the delivery! But that was a freak event. Basically, I don't use it in high winds. If you buy the "Executive" C1 you can have anti-lock brakes, but the price then is pushing 6k compared to Benelli's £3,200. And I've never had any heart-in the-mouth moments with the Italian double disks (and braided steel hoses!). Finally, there's space for a music system and two small speakers, so that you can have music while you work! You can get some sort of kit for the BM as well, but once again it costs an arm and a leg. I believe the BMW is a great solo-commuter, but it's strictly a one-dimension bike. My furthest delivery in the Adiva - London to Southampton.
Back in the early 2000's I worked for Daytona Motorcycles in Ruislip as a sales guy. During that time I had a lot of fun taking home various bikes for the weekend. Also, during that time I had a benefit of the use of a Benelli Velvet 250 scoot for about a week, (VERY underrated scoot, loved every minute of using it), and also brief use of the Adiva and since, the C1. YES both the C1 and Adiva are quite different beasts, but, I think for the every day world, the Benelli was a better implemented roofed scoot, while the roof was up there was a HUGE space in the boot, and, wasn't suffocated with the OTT rules and regs of needing a crash helmet AND having to use seatbelts together... I see the reasons why the C1 had a 'safety cage' say, but British safety berks went OTT... In my view, the Adiva won the battle, the BMW C1 was just... Too much... The front suspension/stand combination was/is unnecessary, as well as other little, erm, idiocyncrasies lol 🤔😏 😎🇬🇧
We need this in the US
Good Grief! That stinking techno music is so LOUD you can't make out what anyone is saying!
Goodness me! Are you from England?
never knew hammond was on here lol - should sack who ever was on sound control - crap lol but great reviews turns out i dont want a C1 now lol
I was getting seasick from so many camera angle changes !
It's called motion sickness
Sounds like a old school adult video from the 90s
Pity that the audio is SO bad, I could hardly understand what you were saying.
I haven't seen this motorbike anywer in UK i reali need one of these
This is fantastic. All weather protection
You don't get "all weather protection". Both scoots are open at the sides so rain can blow in, and you still get cold. However, the big screen and roof - and in the Benelli's case, a large plastic lapel at each side (later added to BMW's) keep the rain off your median, so your head, chest and hands remain almost completely dry, and your front zipper, kneck and gloves are where the water would normally soak in and make you cold. I have ridden the Benelli around London and environs for over 10 hours in windless, light-to-medium weight rain, and never even needed overtrousers or a visor...
Este conceito de scooter é muito legal, se fabricasse no BRASIL eu com certeza compraria um destes.
eu tambem. a bmw. prefiro a protecao da gaiola de metal e dos cintos de seguranca.
Wish they do these for disabled people think it sucks they give you a scooter and cart but nothing to protect you in the winter
How it will make me avoid rain from the side?
Physics
...what was that, Richard? I could hardly hear you, because of the FUCKING MUSIC!!!!!!
Terrible audio really frustrating the music louder than the ones talking
hey u BMW MALAYSIA bring this scooters to Malaysia...its always raining here
hey, the video is so nice massive entertaining what's your opinion about thiu
Impressive
Hey there. Can you tell me if you can listen to music if you a music player with speakers while riding the Adiva.? I am seriously considering this ADiva. Thanks
The forced seatbelts is a no-go for me.
I get it, that it is for my protection, but first of all, I really don't think tkey'll do any go anyway, if someone crash into you, and secondly, it should be volentary to use.
That is cool
is that top gear hammond?
waaaaw it's awesome
he Adiva company sell it in Malaysia ...pls. we are tropical weather here we need this
Hope this will be available in Manila
barely heard anything......... to much background music... -_-
Get your ears checked.
Quando chegaria ao Brasil? Daqui a uns 40 anos e por um valor de uma ferrari!!! Seria uma ótima opção para quem tem que viajar 500km por semana faça chuva faça sol, Infelizmente moro num país chamado BRASIL.
I also found that your audio is so piss poor, your music is louder than you
Rolando Perez i also found her knees to be a bit callused. someone needs to get her some knee pads so she don't have to retire early from bad knees.
The uneccessary music drowns out the commentary so thumbs down.
Take some mdma before watching
Not sold in the US.
It's good?????
HAHAHA! I musta shape shifted when I wrote this ! I DON'T REMEMBER !!!
where can you buy the Adiva in the usa? or have shipped to the usa?
Thanks for the vid. Very informative.
Ini luar biasa sekali....
Music makes hearing you impossible.
Fran would get it, top on or off..
good
hello, I said when one of these will arrive here in Brazil
Whatever else can be said for this machine, one thing is for sure: It wil never catch on.
After all, it is nice to have a roof.
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Wow good I dear...
I like bmw c1
This video is nice C'ron. summer ticket What's your opinion about mt
In the rain, the driver is not protected from splashes from the sides.
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Good concept but Why seatbelt on motorcycle? It will be safer if it dont have seatbelt
Hello there 1:01
why seatbelts on motorscooters? i REFUSE to wear seatbelts on ANY motorcycles!
+SpiritsoftheWolf it was designed to have the seatbelt and no need for the helmet. but if you are forced to wear a helmet then I dont see a need for the seat belt then
+SpiritsoftheWolf I suppose the hard top with anti roll bars is the reason, it can probably bludgeon you to death if you were to come flying against it. As Michael aptly noted, it probably allowed them to eschew the helmet, at least across most of the rest of the world.
SpiritsoftheWolf
I'm with you on that it's Death Trap
Russell Mitchell yeah cause standard motorcycles are so much safer!
SpiritsoftheWolf \l
The seat belt means that if you rear end a car you won’t eject into the car and break your neck. Quadriplegia and death isn’t appealing.
So it's a Rickshaw
bump
I want a scooter with 3 wheels!
Szzzweeeet !!!
Bad cameraman, video,audio, setups,. Might well build a car.
Might just as well have called this the BMW C1 review, loads of info and footage on the C1 and nothing on the Adiva.....
Did BMW sponsor it 🤔
its cold I rather not
I would NEVER use a seat belt in that thing. Is He nuts.?
And why is that?People die when they crash with motorcycles, in most cases because they fly from it!
blindangelsin
Getting away from a 300 pound piece of Steel traveling at a high speed is the whole idea.
That roof and frame will crush right down on you if you're belted in.. It will rupture any part of you body, instantly
The only time you wanna be belted in, is When the vehicle structure is rated for a crash impact..
Watch any dirt bike race. or street race.. Those bike take a lot more beating than the rider,, because they get away from it,,
People fall out of it, mostly because there is no roof to stop you.So in this case you can do more damage if you're not belted in..In other cases where is no roof, you're totally right.
I’m surprised to see somebody from top gear here
Spectacular" C'mon, guys2 jar examine What's happening, guys. 11
Now today, like we can reality some insaint things from dragonball
Love escooters*********;;;))
The seat belt is just plain stupid since I would have it snapped behind the seat anyway.
Want to buy roof for India cost please
What ràte this bike
Price ?
I want to purchase in Lahore city Pakistan
Xe này có bán ở việt nam không???
quando séra que vai chegar uma dessa aqui no BRAZIL
Thanks
He claims that the BMW C1 is basically just a scooter no matter how radical it is and £4000 was too much compared to the Adiva's £3200!!!!! What a load of rubbish.
The BMW is the safest motorcycle in the world with crumple zones, a 2-ton strength roll cage, side impact bumpers, ABS, seatbelts, pre-load folding front forks and the only 2-wheeled machine allowed to be driven in Europe without a helmet. Oh and it's a BMW!!! Watch this: BMW C1 Crash Test - 90 Degrees Impact
The BMW C1 was 10-years ahead of its time.
If you'll stop the music we may can hear what your saying...if you'll slow your speech down. Yeah, I'd ride one on the back roads (where I'm not seen), seat belt?...no way. For a 7 mile jaunt to work...yeah, I'd ride it.
Por qué hablan tan rápido...???
اكو مثلها بالعراق
Too bad the music is so loud
Only in the UK you have to wear a helmet on these..
Blimey, is that bloody music necessary?
Would someone turn down that bloody music?!!
these guys will be rich, if they bring these roof bike to vietnam.
The Adiva is more-more better than the C1... ;)
This is silly...What if you have rain coming in sideways?
Try a scooter in the snow. I have. Over $4000? Back to the car. SORRY..
I had no option but to ride my R1 to the shop in the snow, 6 mile round trip safely done, I pulled in my drive put my foot down and fell over. I just stood there laughing. The bike looked lovely on its side lava red contrasting with the pure white snow. 😅
Capsule 9 bike in a nutshell
1:30 "Becaus this is the UK and not Europe"(2013) ??? Wasnt Brexit a little later?
Mucha publicidad ya cansa a uno
music??? can't hear you - bad work
the absolute last thing i thought id see is hammond on a moped
Wind never blows rain from the side..
But it already cost more than a car.
You are poor. It is cold.
I cant hear a thing you are saying lol....sigh
Seeps. Way To Be Responsible! decorate chickens What's happening0. !
Why do they speak so fast?
Naw,, this bike does Not work in South East Asia where's theres Puddles on the Road and Flooding. You get Splash on the Side and you Definetly get your Pants Wet !!
Hello! This last video tonight.
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