Cockpit View EMS Helicopter EC 145

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  • Опубліковано 29 гру 2024

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  • @argonwheatbelly637
    @argonwheatbelly637 Рік тому +27

    Procedural. Crisp. Nicely done. Flying is in the blood. Thanks for what you and the crew do!

    • @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation
      @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation  Рік тому +6

      Thanks. Everyone has their calling I suppose. Flying just happened to be mine so I can't take any credit for that. Credit belongs to the Creator.

  • @ThaiLifeAmerican
    @ThaiLifeAmerican 15 днів тому +2

    Love the use of autopilot system! Im fixed wing commercial and most of my commercial flying was all single pilot night and a lot of hard IFR. My autopilot was my most reliable crewmember...I got out just after they upgraded our 1900d's to the Garmin G950. WOW that was fun for the 1800 hours or so I got before I retired! They didn't upgrade for safety so much as the extra 250 pounds of cargo and reduced maintenance costs. I got to fly the 1900D with the Garmin G950 NXi and APS 65 Autopilot from 2018 to 2023 when I retired, though half the time I was still flying the original avionics updated with dual GTN650xi GPS's. It was fun, paid less than a Walmart truck driver and at times somewhat dangerous but I wouldn't change it for anything...I had the chance to go to jets many times and I just loved all that noise.....what? What's that you said? I can't hear my wife screaming but I think she is saying to get off the computer that we are late for something...I won't hear ya later, but I may see you!

    • @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation
      @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation  14 днів тому

      AP's are great but they do take up a lot of the useful load capabilities in a helicopter. Most are 3 axis but I have seen some with 4 axis APs installed. I used to also fly ATRs as a line captain in a Part 121 outfit. AP's were on almost from wheels up to decision height on most flights. Only reason we'd kick them off was every few approaches just to remember how to actually fly the thing by hand.

  • @KyleMorpheus
    @KyleMorpheus Рік тому +18

    the EC-145 is a beautiful machine!

  • @curtissheppard1996
    @curtissheppard1996 4 місяці тому +5

    Best ride I ever got off the ground. Helicopter in the shotgun seat.1994 fire season. Wow. Great pilot too.
    Tree top level going like hell. ❤

    • @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation
      @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation  4 місяці тому +2

      I fly fixed wings also but there's just something about helicopters that make them so much more fun to fly - especially with rockets and missiles and cannons on board!

  • @FlyTaylor
    @FlyTaylor 4 місяці тому +3

    Coming from a Paramedic, I just wanna say you guys are like celebrities to me lol 🤙🏾

    • @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation
      @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation  4 місяці тому +1

      It's like chewing gun and walking at the same time. I could teach my grandmother how to fly - and she's no longer with us. The trick is knowing what to do when schtuff goes south.

  • @samuelmarquet5767
    @samuelmarquet5767 Рік тому +3

    Juste merciiiiiii. C’est un beau cadeau de présentation.

  • @omegawaves
    @omegawaves 6 місяців тому +1

    UA-cam suggested this video to me today, and I immediately recognized your departure hospital , since I drive by it frequently and it took me an extra minute to identify the destination hospital but the football stadium in the distance gave it away. Go Heels!

  • @marklester9679
    @marklester9679 Рік тому +7

    Thanks for the ride along.

  • @edwingitonga3780
    @edwingitonga3780 10 місяців тому +3

    Wow what a surreal pov flight thank you for an amazing video ❤

  • @jizmoglass4202
    @jizmoglass4202 Рік тому +4

    Awesome video. Thank you for this. Love all the noises and buttons. Beep, bop, boop. Arma 3 style. Cheers. safe flying. That spool up. Love that sound. 😉💚👍

  • @Pilot_Perspective86
    @Pilot_Perspective86 Рік тому +4

    Awesome flying Captain!

  • @marcusmaximus451
    @marcusmaximus451 6 місяців тому +2

    Superb flying, kind regards to you and take care, Mark from the U.K. 🇬🇧😀😀👍👍🌞🌞

  • @ejripley
    @ejripley 6 місяців тому +2

    I got so confused when I saw another seat next to you. All the helicotpers I've ever seen that do this have the sled in that spot and the patients head or feet are there. That must be a big helo. Safe flying buddy!

    • @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation
      @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation  6 місяців тому +1

      I've flown A-Stars in EMS configured as you mention. Hated the patient position. The 145 is a big upgrade.

  • @joeruddy549
    @joeruddy549 4 місяці тому +1

    Air Methods, my daughter flew with Life-Net (Air Methods - NY) for 9 years. Great group of pilots, flight nurses and flight medics.

  • @bruce2357
    @bruce2357 Рік тому +2

    I remember two occasions one in the late 70's and the other in the early 80's when I saw an EMS pilot cram their helicopter into a very tight space. One was when he landed in the small parking lot of a tiny community hospital and the other was when he landed in a ridiculously small open area next to a car wash. The car wash had power lines on one side and was sketchy as hell, trees and buildings on the other side. The fire truck that was there had his radio blasting over the outside speaker so we could hear the dispatcher saying that the pilot wanted the FD to advise him of any obstacles and there were many and they did a great job of giving him the heads up. The FD was not there because of an accident, they were only there as safety in case the chopper went down, the patient came from the hospital next door. Just like the other hospital this was a very small hospital that didn't have a helipad.

    • @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation
      @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation  Рік тому

      Been there, done that. Many times over. I'll have to post a couple of shorts showing one of the tighter LZ's that we landed in while flying EMS. There were several. Our rules said we had to clear all obstacles by 30 feet vertically and 15 feet horizontally. Those limits were often pushed - especially when flying in the mountains. In the military we had no such prohibitions so it basically came down to the pilot in command's decision on where to put 'er down. Basic LZ ideal conditions were defined by twice the length and twice the width of the helicopter / rotor system. Fire departments were trained to select basically 100 x 100 foot LZ's or larger as the optimum space.

  • @overbank56
    @overbank56 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for the inside views & showing Preflight check you don't move the stick much

    • @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation
      @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation  Рік тому +4

      The stability systems on most IFR rated helicopters negate the need for a lot of micro adjustments with the controls. The systems automatically detect airframe movement, look to see if the pilot caused the movement, and if not then the stability system automatically corrects for the movement without input from the pilot. You'll notice during the landing that I kick off some of the stability systems and take more manual control of the helicopter. Some pilots do this and some pilots don't. I'm old school. I like for the airframe to "talk" to me and let me know everything that's happening during certain modes of flight. Landing is one of those. You'll see once I kick off the systems the control inputs increase dramatically in frequency. As far as control displacement, a little goes a long long way. Helicopters are generally much more sensitive to control inputs than airplanes. Sorry for the book ;)

  • @notar187
    @notar187 Рік тому +1

    Awsome video, thanx for sharing

  • @andybrugman3619
    @andybrugman3619 7 місяців тому +9

    Knowing what a helicopter needs to start and fly what are all these extra stuff for its a flying laptop

    • @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation
      @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation  7 місяців тому +10

      You are basically correct. The issue arises from the fact that to fly single pilot IFR under FAA Part 135 operations you have to have an operational auto pilot - along with several other gizmos and gadgets. I have plans to redo this particular video with voice over pauses to explain exactly what I'm doing during the start, enroute, and shutdown sequences. Stay tuned.....

    • @C-beezy
      @C-beezy 2 місяці тому +1

      Unless you want medevac to wait until its sunny and clear to come get patients, you need all that IFR gear in the cockpit

    • @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation
      @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation  Місяць тому

      You'd be surprised at how seldom it gets used though.

    • @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation
      @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation  Місяць тому

      You'd be surprised at how seldom it gets used though. Folks don't want to spend the money to have approaches and departures to and from helipads certified.

  • @douglasnorby4006
    @douglasnorby4006 4 місяці тому +1

    Love it inside view

  • @Satisfactoryfield
    @Satisfactoryfield 28 днів тому +1

    Its my dream to be a helicopter pilot. Is it really that hard? Thank you for this video.

    • @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation
      @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation  28 днів тому +1

      It's kind of like anything else. It looks and feels difficult at first but it becomes second nature after a bit. The hardest part of learning to fly is to keep yourself out of situations you or your aircraft are incapable of handling. As in all endeavors some folks are naturals and some folks are very mechanical in their stick & rudder skills. It's the mental situational awareness that makes the real difference in your success.

  • @69adrummer
    @69adrummer Місяць тому +2

    What is the lock/latch for on the collective?!

    • @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation
      @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation  Місяць тому

      To keep the collective from inadvertently riding up while on the ground and also to lock the collective down if you exit the bird while it's running.

    • @69adrummer
      @69adrummer Місяць тому

      @@hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation Oh very cool. Thanks. Have a great day!!

    • @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation
      @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation  Місяць тому

      You also!

  • @WhiteHawk77
    @WhiteHawk77 2 місяці тому +1

    I was wondering if you could answer a question? When flying along at an average speed, how much force would you guess is centring the cyclic if you were to make an average turn to a reasonably large heading change?
    I recognise this is probably a difficult question to answer, but it’s hard to get the information.

    • @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation
      @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation  2 місяці тому

      I'm not quite sure what you're asking but it all boils down to a few simple physics calculations. Eg, if a X thousand pound helicopter is traveling at Y knots you can figure out the momentum or force required to maintain that vector. From there you can determine the amount of force required to alter that original force. From there you determine the force needed to accomplish this change in vector dependent upon how large a vector change you want and at what speed of a rate of change you desire. Something akin to Einstein's E=MC2. There are a bajillion mathematical calculations to consider, but an "easy" way to calculate what I think you may be asking is that the force required to make a standard 60* angle of bank turn requires twice the power required to maintain straight and level flight. That's simple aerodynamics. Standard bank angles require a predetermined power adjustment to maintain altitude and airspeed. The 60* angle of bank rule holds true for anything that flies IF the rate of turn that provides is what you want. If you want to accelerate that rate then you'll need added back pressure on the stick to pull additional G forces, which in turn requires more power. There are several excellent text books that go over all of this in much greater detail. I'd recommend picking up a copy of the US Army's "Helicopter & Airplane Aerodynamics" if you really want to get into the topic. I still have my dog eared copy from flight school way back in 1984.

    • @WhiteHawk77
      @WhiteHawk77 2 місяці тому

      @@hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation that wasn’t quite the aspect I was asking about I’m afraid.
      All I need to know is the forces going through the cyclic stick, not the helicopter, so how much pressure does it take to move the stick to initiate a turn, for example like you did to the right near the end of the video, and does it change in that particular helicopter based on how fast you are going in forward flight.
      I assume you have also flown other types of helicopter where the mechanical or otherwise links to the flight surfaces feel different through the stick so how different are they in terms of force through the cyclic as well?
      Again, probably a tricky thing to answer without you having used a force sensor on the stick in flight.
      So don’t worry if it’s not easy to answer, it’s not that important, it’s only to dial in a FFB stick for flight sims is all. 😁

    • @hiddenacresoutdoors
      @hiddenacresoutdoors 2 місяці тому +1

      @@WhiteHawk77 Oh that's an easy one to answer! Practically no force is required at all. In fact, if you are in something like a Bell 209 and let go of the stick without the force trim engaged, the stick will fall over by itself and buddy then you're in for a frantic couple of seconds. You can move the stick around with one finger. I was always in the habit of kicking off the "Buck Rogers" electronics and hand flying the final portions of the approach myself. It's MUCH less heavy on the stick than an airplane is. Most helicopters are running about 3,000 PSI hydraulic cylinders that actually do the work thru actuators connected to the sticks. Some birds (like an Apache) have so much force feedback that without the hydraulics you're just along for the ride to the site of your death. Older birds like Huey's and VN era Cobras you could actually control w/o hydraulics but it was some seriously heavy control input required as you lost airspeed. I'd say a good setup for your FFB stick for a helicopter is about as close to zero as you can get it. An index finger on top of the stick moves it anywhere it can go.

    • @WhiteHawk77
      @WhiteHawk77 2 місяці тому

      @@hiddenacresoutdoors cheers man, I’ve searched for info and got bits and pieces, like the cyclic being light to move but still unsure how light and if there was any feedback of any kind.
      Thanks for your time.

    • @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation
      @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation  Місяць тому

      Not very much at all. Without force trim engaged the cyclic will just fall over in some lighter aircraft. Set it up to where it feels like the power steering on your car and you'll be in the ballpark.

  • @lanefrost7653
    @lanefrost7653 9 місяців тому +1

    Any chance you’d be willing to make a video explaining the startup and shutdown procedures?

    • @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation
      @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation  9 місяців тому +1

      I can possibly do a voice over on this video to explain what I'm doing. I've retired from flying EMS these days though. Would that be suffice?

    • @spaghetti9845
      @spaghetti9845 9 місяців тому +1

      Id take that. To be fair since you are taking your time to do these i'd personally be happy with anything.@@hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation

    • @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation
      @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation  9 місяців тому +1

      Ok. I'm out of town at the moment but will get something rolling once I get back home.

    • @lanefrost7653
      @lanefrost7653 8 місяців тому +1

      That would be great!

    • @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation
      @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation  8 місяців тому +1

      I'll let you know when it's completed.

  • @Pierre-AndreDelitroz
    @Pierre-AndreDelitroz Рік тому +1

    magnifique, merci

  • @garymfra3962
    @garymfra3962 6 місяців тому +1

    Real cool Thanks

    • @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation
      @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation  6 місяців тому

      My pleasure. I need to do a voice over of this vid explaining what knobs and dials and switches I'm fiddling with and why. I'll eventually get that done.

  • @Verbal_DEU
    @Verbal_DEU Рік тому +1

    Pls more h145 cockpit videos with heli sound

  • @helicopterovirtual-msfs6254
    @helicopterovirtual-msfs6254 2 місяці тому +1

    Excelente máquina

  • @周伯瑀-l3n
    @周伯瑀-l3n 8 місяців тому +1

    very good friend

  • @DCSHacks
    @DCSHacks 8 місяців тому +1

    Never thought to slip onto the pad for full visibility during a HEMS flight - Who knew!

    • @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation
      @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation  8 місяців тому +1

      Anyone who grew up flying Cobras or other tandem seat cockpits. You'll find it's mainly the gunship pilots (tandem seating) that employ this technique. Other birds have chin bubbles.

  • @abracadabra1fois
    @abracadabra1fois Рік тому +2

    Thank you for this superb video, how many hours does it take to master this precision landing? I'm trying my hand with EC135 from RotorSim under Xplane. Very enriching to watch this superb machine get started. Thanks. Friendship from France.

    • @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation
      @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation  Рік тому

      The short answer is a lifetime. In all honesty it varies significantly. Just as we all can't be Formula 1 drivers, not everyone - even pilots - ever really get the hang of it. In fact, I have a very short short list of people I'd let fly my family. I know thousands of pilots and that list I could name on one hand with fingers left over. As far as the best tip I ever got on landing a helicopter smoothly, think "forward and down" all the way to ground contact. Then smoothly lower the collective and neutralize the pedals. The trick is, as in all flying, to control the aircraft rather than to react to what the aircraft does on its own. It's the one difference between precision flying and mediocrity.

    • @abracadabra1fois
      @abracadabra1fois Рік тому

      @@hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation Thank you for this philosophical response, full of common sense and I wish you very good flights.

    • @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation
      @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation  Рік тому

      Anytime. Can you tell I used to be a standardization instructor pilot in the AH-64A Apache? ;)

    • @abracadabra1fois
      @abracadabra1fois Рік тому +1

      @@hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation You mean that you were an instructor pilot on AH-64A Apache if the translation is correct and if I understood correctly?

    • @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation
      @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation  Рік тому

      @@abracadabra1fois Yes. Four days after graduating flight school I was in the AH-1 Cobra qualification course. Roughly one year later I was in the AH-64A Apache qualification course. Less than three years after that I was in the Apache instructor pilot course. I spent the remaining 13 or so years of my 22 years in the military serving as an instructor pilot and standardization instructor pilot in the A model Apache.

  • @martinleicht5911
    @martinleicht5911 10 місяців тому +2

    Yawda put some rocket pods on that thang !! 😂

  • @fredelliott6985
    @fredelliott6985 Рік тому +1

    You make this look like a walk in the park. I crash every time I attempt to fly a helicopter in MSFS. Guess I will stick to Cessnas and Beechcrafts. Nice video though. Just curious what was your total flight time in the video?

  • @h67driver
    @h67driver Рік тому

    Were you using a checklist during this startup? I don’t see it in the video.

  • @Fealinqs
    @Fealinqs 5 місяців тому +1

    Dang, wish the Blackhawk had those comfy seats

  • @etienneleroux6253
    @etienneleroux6253 Рік тому +1

    Lol the boop of the Hamilton T1 is well known among some HEMS crews

  • @StianNorwaylive
    @StianNorwaylive Рік тому +1

    WOWHOW MUCH THAT HELI COST?

    • @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation
      @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation  Рік тому

      If I recall correctly, roughly 8.5 million dollars. But you have to remember that that was roughly a decade ago.

    • @Jetjockgordo
      @Jetjockgordo 8 місяців тому +1

      A new H145-D3 with a medical interior is now about $14 million US dollars.

    • @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation
      @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation  8 місяців тому

      Wow. When I started flying Apaches in '86 they were running $18 mil per copy.

  • @zzouhairhardi2764
    @zzouhairhardi2764 Рік тому +1

    Is it possible to help someone else fly and fly and to fly to fly? Yes, can he fly with his own wings? If he wants to fly, but there is not enough money to fly.

    • @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation
      @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation  Рік тому

      I'm not quite sure what you are asking due to the language barrier. However, I think you are asking if you can learn to fly for cheap. The answer is yes. If you were to join the military and get selected for flight school and successfully complete flight school then the government pays all the costs and also pays you a salary. That's how I learned to fly helicopters. I did pay for my own fixed wing training though.

  • @bobotrinec
    @bobotrinec 4 місяці тому

    5 min?????no start????😢😮

  • @chaddytee726
    @chaddytee726 7 місяців тому +1

    got to luv a FADEC system

    • @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation
      @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation  7 місяців тому +1

      Actually it's not. the 135 has a FADEC. The 145 does not. You still have to modulate the start and twist the throttles in the 145.

    • @chaddytee726
      @chaddytee726 7 місяців тому +1

      @@hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation I stand corrected!

    • @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation
      @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation  7 місяців тому +1

      No worries. I'm old school and prefer having manual control. That's one reason you see me kick off parts of the automatic stabilization systems during the landing phase.

    • @chaddytee726
      @chaddytee726 7 місяців тому

      @@hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation luv it great to watch

    • @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation
      @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation  7 місяців тому

      Thanks

  • @bobotrinec
    @bobotrinec 4 місяці тому

    3 min??????😮😮😮

  • @bobotrinec
    @bobotrinec 4 місяці тому

    startuj jź-ty jsi pomaly nejaky ne????

  • @z109216
    @z109216 Рік тому +1

    💪

  • @forrestlewis108
    @forrestlewis108 6 місяців тому

    Do you have the chapter labeled as war thunder memes? 😂

  • @staceylpittman532
    @staceylpittman532 Рік тому +2

    Nash General.

  • @Ubi-o
    @Ubi-o Місяць тому +1

    Butter landing. Try that in msfs 2020. It will never happen like that.

    • @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation
      @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation  Місяць тому

      All you need is a few thousand hours and probably tens of thousands of landings ;) On very rare occasions I've even landed when you couldn't even tell you've landed. You keep lowering the collective looking for the ground contact and realize you're already full down on the collective. The trick is to pass it off nonchalantly when it happens! A trick I was taught in flight school way back in the middle ages was "forward and down, forward and down". Try that and see if it helps.

  • @Jetjockgordo
    @Jetjockgordo 8 місяців тому +1

    Ah, the old DFL before the EFB and before the PED ban.

  • @thomaskeeney5796
    @thomaskeeney5796 Рік тому

    The pilot with his GoPro on his helmet was moving his head around way too much to watch.

  • @Gruby7C1h
    @Gruby7C1h Рік тому +1

    I really want, and don't want to fly one of these.

  • @Partsocaster
    @Partsocaster Рік тому +1

    Mutual aid to Nash for UNC?😂😂😂

    • @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation
      @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation  Рік тому

      I'd have to go back and look but I certainly wouldn't be surprised!

    • @Partsocaster
      @Partsocaster Рік тому

      @@hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation Well you’re in a duke machine, picking up a patient from Nash and landing on the rooftop pad at UNC soooo….. 🤣

    • @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation
      @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation  Рік тому +2

      @@Partsocaster You'll love the short vid I'll post after while. Both Duke birds sitting on the pads at UNC!

    • @Partsocaster
      @Partsocaster Рік тому +1

      @@hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation Oh we used to crowd it once in a while too! Dude would be over at IGX pissed off🤣

    • @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation
      @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation  Рік тому

      Thank goodness I can now go to bed at night and not worry about the tones dropping! ;)

  • @mikewalker8709
    @mikewalker8709 Рік тому +1

    slo take off

    • @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation
      @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation  Рік тому +5

      It sure ain't a sports car. You always keep your takeoff spot in sight when you're below single engine flyaway altitude/airspeed combinations in case you have to go back to it. The instant where the nose pitches forward is when you've achieved the necessary altitude you can then convert to airspeed to successfully complete a single engine flyaway if one engine suddenly fails.

  • @JohnBaileyDarke
    @JohnBaileyDarke Рік тому

    Helmet cams suck

    • @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation
      @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation  Рік тому +1

      Nobody is forcing you to watch. Please feel free to view some of our other vids filmed from different perspectives.

  • @M.Đ-z4u
    @M.Đ-z4u Рік тому +1

    I hate helicopters

    • @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation
      @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation  Рік тому +1

      As is your right.

    • @LemmMax-fj5vs
      @LemmMax-fj5vs Рік тому

      😂😂😂😂

    • @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation
      @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation  Рік тому

      Yep

    • @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation
      @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation  11 місяців тому +3

      I decided that that was what I was going to be somewhere around 10 or 12 years old. Never regretted the decision. Good luck to you. Stay in school, study hard, stay away from drugs, and set your mind to overcome the challenges that you will face in your journey. Good luck!

    • @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation
      @hiddenacresoutdoors-aviation  11 місяців тому +2

      I do too! I also fly fixed wing airplanes (single and multi-engined) but helicopters are just much more fun to fly.