RUGBY 25 MAJOR UPDATE 1 - Full Gameplay, Thoughts & Feedback - NEW TEAMS & STADIUMS

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  • Опубліковано 17 вер 2024

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  • @MaDDragonRugby
    @MaDDragonRugby  Місяць тому +3

    Let me know What you guys think of the 1st major patch for Rugby 25.

    • @shaunmahon3415
      @shaunmahon3415 Місяць тому

      Your commentary was comedy gold and certainly way better than listening to Andrew Cotter, Jiffy and the other Welsh bloke 😂😂😂. I was even get frustrated for you at one point when passes were going awry and tackles reigning down on you 😱🙄.

    • @JakeYard
      @JakeYard Місяць тому

      Improved but still a lot of issues. Players look like they're floating on the pitch because of lack of shadows and grass texture. Floaty passes. Playing rugby challenge 4 until it's fixed because the animations, play style, passing animations, rucks etc are just more playable. Appreciate the video!

    • @stephanpretorius2320
      @stephanpretorius2320 Місяць тому +1

      I don't understand. If you think about games like fifa, madden, ufc and literally almost every other sport and the quality of those games, compared to this...👀 make it make sense

  • @TFP_yioud
    @TFP_yioud Місяць тому +17

    I agree with you Mad Dragon on every point you mention. There is over oppression so you can' t gain ground, the passing is questionable and needs improvement. I saw a player running and falling into the ground with no reason. Stability issues with the game crashing or stalling and going into loops. Apart from the new teams and stadiums which are all great I liked the gravity of tackles. They seem greatly improved and varied. So there are negatives and positives. I' m pretty sure Big Ant will take into account all these issues and resolve them in following updates. So I think the game, despite its negatives is on the right direction and will improve greatly because they have chosen the humble way of sharing their progress with the faithful and benevolent rugby community. Such videos like yours Mad Dragon can only help make the game become better and better and should be appreciated because they are made with pure love for the rugby game. We all wish Rugby 25 to become the best rugby game ever and we can all help with positive thoughts and comments ! Cheers to all rugby fans !

    • @MaDDragonRugby
      @MaDDragonRugby  Місяць тому +2

      Been making my way through comments and glad to see a lot of people on the same page from their experiences with it. As you say, we all want the best rugby game that can possibly be made, so im more than happy to keep making the videos and trying to give as much feedback to help the developers. Its just a shame that many of the patches have some steps forward followed by immediate steps backwards. Got to keep finding the positives along with the negatives and provide feedback to help the devs. This update in particular is a hard one, because the gameplay seems to grind to so much of a halt with the aggressive AI defence its hard to showcase many positives when you are being marched backwards on the easist diffculty!

  • @MAdDyMatt
    @MAdDyMatt Місяць тому +13

    I want Rugby Challenge 5

  • @bryanellis459
    @bryanellis459 Місяць тому +13

    I didn't realise Mauro Bergamasco was back playing scrum half

  • @jansmit327
    @jansmit327 Місяць тому +9

    The Dark Souls of rugby games... fuckin hell😮

    • @MaDDragonRugby
      @MaDDragonRugby  Місяць тому +1

      We need more i-frames!!!!!!!! 😂😂

  • @PK-xn7vk
    @PK-xn7vk Місяць тому +7

    That was a brilliant watch 😂 Appreciate all the early access testers going through this!

    • @MaDDragonRugby
      @MaDDragonRugby  Місяць тому +1

      Glad you enjoyed mate, so hard to get some entertaining content when its so hard to acheive any progress in a match, atleast we got to see a maul in the 2nd game!

  • @ethansimpson8240
    @ethansimpson8240 Місяць тому +2

    Looks a lot better but still needs loads of work hopefully by the time of the end result we have a nice complete game

  • @Christian_69
    @Christian_69 Місяць тому +3

    At this rate the early access will last 24 months there's 100+ teams and 100+ club teams and they only added 7 😂😂this game looks very good on the 1st major update i think we will have a banger on our hands let hope it comes out on console soon 😢😢

    • @ozmanoshe
      @ozmanoshe Місяць тому

      They will be releasing this game as rugby 27 World Cup edition when it comes out of alpha.

  • @Rnzlo
    @Rnzlo Місяць тому +7

    Almost gave up watching until you screamed, is that a maul! After that, back to disappointment 😂

    • @MaDDragonRugby
      @MaDDragonRugby  Місяць тому +3

      Not gonna lie, it was getting that way playing along. Defense is so brutal, it takes so much out of the running rugby. 2 days ago I was sticking 50 points past a team, and even landing crossfield kicks. Now I cant get out of the 22!

    • @Rnzlo
      @Rnzlo Місяць тому

      Hope they sort out the passing...defence line looks decent.. attack needs a lot of work..do they have set plays? They should've copied rugby challenge style of attack of having pods of forwards etc.

  • @wrightyy
    @wrightyy Місяць тому +12

    This game is trying to debug code, by adding more code to work around the problem. The problem is that it's a rugby league engine and they've tried to add stuff on top, but the developers aren't rugby fans, clearly, no matter what they say. No one would put this out, and for £20? Christ.

  • @ukunboxings2242
    @ukunboxings2242 Місяць тому +4

    At least they not tackling like rugby league now, actual union tackles I actually thought Rugby 22 did decent with the tackle animations.

    • @MaDDragonRugby
      @MaDDragonRugby  Місяць тому +2

      Happy to see more animations being added, I know it was probably the most major point of feedback from the community. Think a couple of animations still look like a high tackle for union, im wondering if its an entry point for them in add high tackle penatlies in the future.

  • @Wingspan_5
    @Wingspan_5 Місяць тому +3

    So hopeful that this game turns out great!

    • @MaDDragonRugby
      @MaDDragonRugby  Місяць тому +1

      We all are mate, keep providing the feedback to BigAnt is all we can do, and allow them to keep making improvemtns in the future. It really feels like this game could have the scope to be a monster in the rugby gaming world, just falling short on a number of basic fundermentals and the player base is struggling.

  • @LB_die_Kaapie
    @LB_die_Kaapie Місяць тому +3

    Waiting for when they 1. allow you to make or invent or choose your own plays. 2. Set up your teams tactics pre maych and half time eg. What type of pod systems and defencive systems.That's when i know I'll buy the game.
    Like for me, online will be what i wanna do. To be able to play other people and test my own tactics and team and schemes against people from around the world.
    Guess will have to wait a few years for this.

    • @MaDDragonRugby
      @MaDDragonRugby  Місяць тому +1

      Yeah, would love to have an intricate system in the game like that, specifically for online play, it would be a method to genuinley outplay an opponent by running better set plays. Unfortunately might still be a way off of that level of complexity being added to the game.

  • @Patookacrep763
    @Patookacrep763 Місяць тому +3

    Tiebreak was an absolute mess in early access and now it looks playable. I’m hopeful Rugby 25 will be the same.

  • @billymaguire3312
    @billymaguire3312 Місяць тому +2

    I actually like the line speed and not just spreading the ball to the wings like in every rugby game ever - super clunky still but if they sort out the passing and running lines then you can start playing real rugby with meaningful forwards carries and phases and THEN pull the trigger and send out to the backs if there is space (still remaining hopeful because I would hate for this game to fail)

    • @billymaguire3312
      @billymaguire3312 Місяць тому +3

      By that I mean I like the idea of the line speed - not quite the teleport tackling when trying to box kick even ahaha

    • @MaDDragonRugby
      @MaDDragonRugby  Місяць тому

      @@billymaguire3312 nothing wrong with a super oppressive offence, for me the issue is game isnt designed in a way for you to handle it as a player yyet, being able to set a custom line width and depth in the match, along with set plays to stretch the AI's defence would make it so much more interesting. Because it would be you outplaying the AI. But the game isnt there yet, and the fact its so aggressive on the easiest difficulty will take away a lot of enjoyment for newcomers to the game. That level of oppression on the hardest difficulty though is something im up for. But we need tools to play around it.

  • @Edgycoo
    @Edgycoo Місяць тому +2

    making a realistic looking grass pitch would help out a lot, mechanics aside

  • @MetamorphicMindset
    @MetamorphicMindset Місяць тому +3

    What is the point of putting out patches if the game is literally unplayable and doesn't even represent rugby in the slightest? Who is playtesting this and thinking "yeah plays well".

  • @therugbyandsportsvideogame367
    @therugbyandsportsvideogame367 Місяць тому

    Great analysis and capture of the issues that are concerning all of us. To be totally honest , as much as I am Rugby mad with Rugby Video games and want this game to be fun and addictive I am in no rush to get to this at the moment. I downloaded the update and will try it out sometime in the next day or so.

  • @brendanmoores1944
    @brendanmoores1944 Місяць тому +6

    Can't lie. It looks ALOT better

  • @Airyed
    @Airyed Місяць тому

    I do appreciate big ant for doing game's for sport's like cricket and rugby that bigger companies don't even bother with and I genuinely really liked Don Bradman cricket 14 however the game's just lack any spark and quality

  • @LB_die_Kaapie
    @LB_die_Kaapie Місяць тому +3

    Also do we get to see player stats? Like fatigue and does fatigue play a factor in how good the team/player plays?

    • @MaDDragonRugby
      @MaDDragonRugby  Місяць тому +2

      Unfortunately not right now, with them mentioning the idea of Spped stats for players being tweaked, I really thought this update would come with "team management" and being able to look at players stats, they must have a baseline in the game, but nothing we can see as a player.

  • @theultimatesharpshooter6734
    @theultimatesharpshooter6734 Місяць тому +1

    I reckon the speed of the players are just too fast that's why even 1 pass feels like Bryan Habana is rushing at you. If they slow down the players it will create more space for passing. One thing that wasn't touched on is how poor the attacking shapes are, it's like they took note of things like a 1331 formation but have put them in completely the wrong positions. Good example is 14:28 where for some reason the pod is standing behind a back when in real life the pod would stand infront and the back would stand behind them waiting for the out the back pass. Things like this really make it hard to form a cohesive attack.
    I like the animations of the passing and tackling, appreciate the addition of the art work if I can say any positives.
    Overall better to just slow down the players and fix the shapes for now so we can get a playable game, then we can look into the other aspects of the game and develop it into a proper franchise.

  • @ozmanoshe
    @ozmanoshe Місяць тому

    The stringing passes together is the biggest problem of this using league mechanical where its often one pass off the ruck for the 5 tackles. The style of tackling is also detrimental to the flow of the game but I don't see them being able to do much about that part.

  • @BaCharitySioneIoane
    @BaCharitySioneIoane Місяць тому

    Need to upgrade the straps n the socks down too
    Hope rugby sevens on this game
    And add dirt on the players n jerseys

  • @LaceyDJI
    @LaceyDJI Місяць тому +1

    If they can sort out attack shape with a few options as the ball carrier it looks like a improvement not so Rugby Leauge !!!!

  • @scottblyth5940
    @scottblyth5940 Місяць тому +4

    Looks shocking as usual. Far to much money spent on licences etc and just neglected the gameplay. I’d rather 95% of the budget went into gameplay.

  • @Shameempoole
    @Shameempoole Місяць тому +2

    EA just said hey lets make a rugby game, done

  • @surfer1690
    @surfer1690 Місяць тому +2

    The not being able to get a pass off after the ruck and getting instant tackled made me turn off the game. it is so frustrating to go from ruck to ruck and continue to lose meters...

    • @MaDDragonRugby
      @MaDDragonRugby  Місяць тому +1

      I think a lot of people are there with you, makes playing a casual game a real chore, i imagine it will be the main piece of feedback the devs will receive from th eupdate, everyone seems to be struggling to get anywhere.

  • @Shameempoole
    @Shameempoole Місяць тому +1

    This is becoming like going to the Moon once.."we dont have that technology anymore" We have come so far with tech since 2008 but still we cant get it right. been waiting almost grey already.

  • @brugbyofficial
    @brugbyofficial Місяць тому +1

    Looks much better!

  • @shaunmahon3415
    @shaunmahon3415 Місяць тому

    I for one would gets so frustrated and probably start swearing etc if I was playing that type of game where passes were floaty and not going where I wanted and the defence was swarming up on me so you certainly did well to remain relatively calm 😱😱. I'd still say that they are on the right tracks and by listening to you guys giving them feedback, they'll get it bang on before too long 😉. My mother ordered this for last Christmas so I really am looking forward to playing and really hope there's a career mode so I can play this instead of FC25 for hours on end 😀. I'm still toying between Glasgow and Sale for career mode 😁.

  • @joen693
    @joen693 Місяць тому

    Do we know anything about a potential career mode yet? Will promotion/ relegation be possible if we were to use a club from ProD2 for example? Will we be able to change clubs in between seasons? Any news on a fan hub as well for customisations? Forwards without lifting blocks and every player having black boots will quickly make this game boring visually

  • @Shady_lunatic
    @Shady_lunatic Місяць тому

    Definitely still needs alot to make this A half decent game. Graphics still need alot of work, passes and taxkling still needs to be improved, feel like this camer angle isnt the best for rugby need to be behind the play so you can see gaps etc and where your players actually going.

  • @KyleM7466
    @KyleM7466 Місяць тому

    its scary that they felt a December release last year was achievable considering they are still sooooo far away with the gameplay...

  • @jp97847
    @jp97847 Місяць тому +1

    This rugby 25 is starting to take shape

  • @buttoi
    @buttoi Місяць тому +1

    Quick question and I’ve not played the game. Are you holding sprint all the time? Is that why you can’t pass?

    • @MaDDragonRugby
      @MaDDragonRugby  Місяць тому +1

      In previous patches you could hold pass the whole time and pass fine. with this update I think ite more an issue of when you pass the ball, rather than the ball going to the player, the ball is being passed to a point in th eair, and a player runs on to it automatically, most likely to give th esense of momentum. But the point the collect the ball is too close to the tackle radius of the AI and the tackle you before you can get the 2nd pass away. Offloading also seems to be really hard to achieve.

  • @darrenjackson2800
    @darrenjackson2800 Місяць тому

    Idk if im tripping but the game somehow looks better

  • @hendrekirsten3440
    @hendrekirsten3440 Місяць тому +1

    Y is dive tackle, but B is still normal tackle

    • @MaDDragonRugby
      @MaDDragonRugby  Місяць тому

      Yeah im not a fan of the dive being on Y myself, but the community must have asked for it. Turnovers being easier means its just worth always going for a B tackle and then just winning the turnover.

  • @nicholasmaden8100
    @nicholasmaden8100 Місяць тому

    SHOE ARMY SHOE ARMY!

  • @patrickmuaau5434
    @patrickmuaau5434 Місяць тому +1

    Any offloads?

  • @enriquenelson7184
    @enriquenelson7184 Місяць тому +1

    The truth is simple - priorities. You start by making a a good, fun rugby game and then and only do you do the other fancy stuff like taking pretty photos of people. Anyone who buys or supports this game is delusional and on copium. I've watched a couple of these videos now and it is clear Big Ant has no idea what they are doing. It's time for some indie dev to make a game in Unreal 5, without licensing and make a good game first and let us change the names and stats or let modders take over and do that. Absolute embarrassment and it is shocking to see anyone say anything positive about this game.

  • @samtyrrell4488
    @samtyrrell4488 Місяць тому +2

    My optimism plummets with every one of these videos that this game is going to be anything other than an awful game that looks pretty with photo accurate players but nothing that makes a game work.
    Surely it would be easier to use a base gameplay from the EA games or even the rugby league games and add to it. The controls talked about don't match what those games had as basic controls, why on earth are analog sticks being used for anything other than direction of running is beyond me.
    This game is embarrassing for rugby.

  • @robwilliamson6181
    @robwilliamson6181 Місяць тому

    When does the full game come out?

  • @yeahman9813
    @yeahman9813 Місяць тому +1

    At this rate it's going be called rugby 26 ... jeapers

  • @brendanmoores1944
    @brendanmoores1944 Місяць тому +1

    I spoke too soon 😂

  • @BilbroBaginz
    @BilbroBaginz Місяць тому

    The added improvements need improvement 😂

  • @armandfourie632
    @armandfourie632 Місяць тому +1

    Tackles look a lot better.

  • @emerald9049
    @emerald9049 Місяць тому

    They need to add a sevens mode

  • @aaronjones7287
    @aaronjones7287 Місяць тому +2

    Make it like 08. Simple. Disappointing looking game so far wouldn’t buy as yet.

    • @MaDDragonRugby
      @MaDDragonRugby  Місяць тому

      Rwading through comments think a lot of people are there with you aaron.

  • @J13K
    @J13K Місяць тому

    need actual rugby kicking animations lol nobody box kicks and punts like that in rugby

  • @chrisdavies9197
    @chrisdavies9197 Місяць тому

    Are they going to have decent squad management?

  • @paulvorster737
    @paulvorster737 Місяць тому +1

    Rugby fans have been getting the wooden spoon of sports games for decades now. Who worked on this garbage? This game is a joke. It doesn't feel like they know what the rugby is or what it should look like. Disgraceful.

  • @youraveragescot
    @youraveragescot Місяць тому

    Finn looks scary.

  • @MieszkoTheFirst
    @MieszkoTheFirst Місяць тому +1

    Welp looks like we need to wait for more patches. Seems like they made the game worse with this update. If I was them I would release the game with at least the 6 Nations Tournament. I think what we have here is a pre-alpha.

    • @MaDDragonRugby
      @MaDDragonRugby  Місяць тому +1

      I think they will be receiving a lot of feedback from this update, the next minor update may even be just to fix some of the game play elements the major update added to the game. 6 Nations would be fun, but gameplay needs to be much smoother for people to want to play a full tournament.

    • @MieszkoTheFirst
      @MieszkoTheFirst Місяць тому +1

      Nice graphics are cool but like you said in the video yourself gameplay has to be good as well. I think they have a good foundation, they just have to keep tweaking it. Hopefully your video and feedback help them make a great rugby game.

  • @KicktoTouch
    @KicktoTouch Місяць тому

    It actually looks like it could improve.
    They need to totally abandon this rugby league live shite.
    More fend animations.
    Id like to see the game more like the old nfl game BACKBREAKER

  • @Nunohadadream
    @Nunohadadream Місяць тому

    They need to extend the refund window with steam themselves as with how bad a league port this is by a team that clearly have never seen a rugby UNION game they are doing more harm than good with each game breaking “update”

  • @ryanlovell7917
    @ryanlovell7917 Місяць тому

    Does the best reply? Try competion mode looks way better than play now

  • @stephanpretorius2320
    @stephanpretorius2320 Місяць тому

    I don't understand. If you think about games like fifa, madden, ufc and literally almost every other sport and the quality of those games, compared to this...👀 make it make sense

  • @cooperfranklin4087
    @cooperfranklin4087 Місяць тому

    When Rugby 25 come out on 25?

  • @Nunohadadream
    @Nunohadadream Місяць тому

    They need to extend the refund window with steam themselves as with how bad a league port this is by a team that clearly have never seen a rugby UNION game they are doing more harm than good with each game breaking “update”
    We have up the jumper simulator now as you cannot pass.
    We shouldn’t have paid to be their QA function…….
    Claiming to be playing the game in their studio….. if that is true
    And they think this is a good union game, there is no hope

  • @liamray15
    @liamray15 Місяць тому +2

    absolute rubbish
    cant believe people wanted big ant to make a rugby game, one of the worst companies ever

    • @Shady_lunatic
      @Shady_lunatic Місяць тому

      Every game I've played or seen from them has been pretty trash 😂😂

    • @liamray15
      @liamray15 Місяць тому

      @@Shady_lunatic literally🤣
      this game got so much hype cos it was being made by bigant and i was so confused cos they just aren't a good company
      i knew this would be rubbish as soon as i saw bigant was making it

  • @lukedudley5030
    @lukedudley5030 Місяць тому

    The passing in this game seems absolutely terrible....why have they moved away from the bumper buttons passing from earlier games that worked pretty well before? Edited to say the tackling is also bad...your player seems to make a half break only to jump back meters and end up on the floor...loads to be done before this is any good if what ive seen here is a typical gaming experience...looks pretty nice to be fair

    • @Nunohadadream
      @Nunohadadream Місяць тому +1

      Because it is from the rugby league games, which they have clearly lifted the code from.
      This is a lazy cash grab so far

  • @UptheWahs21
    @UptheWahs21 Місяць тому

    This game is horrendous. Worried about teams and licenses instead of making a good game. The first rugby challenge game was a step in the right direction and just needed fine tuning rather than just adding stuff on to a broken game.

  • @ForTheLoveOfTheGame-vp8pg
    @ForTheLoveOfTheGame-vp8pg Місяць тому +1

    Are the breakdowns some sort of sick joke? In what world does any of it look real?
    Horrible

  • @ethansimpson8240
    @ethansimpson8240 Місяць тому

    The passing looks horrible needs a lot of work also support runners are over running all over the place. The opponents defensive lines are way to quick unrealistic

  • @Enkosi_Hanise19
    @Enkosi_Hanise19 Місяць тому

    Rugby needs help from EA🤧🤧

  • @Ruan_B
    @Ruan_B Місяць тому

    Not to be rude. But when you pass left, it goes left, and you say it goes right. Lol... that was a bit weird since you said it like 5 times, but every time you do say it, it went in the direction you said you passed it

    • @MaDDragonRugby
      @MaDDragonRugby  Місяць тому

      if you go to 14:50 you will see what I mean. The 1st pass, i pressed to pass left, but the scrum half clearly doe the animation to pass right, then contorts his body and throws the ball around his own back so the ball does end up going left but looks bizarre. The next pass after that I passed left again, the the scrum half did a full right hand pass. So on occasions they are passing the opposite way to the way I selected. 15:42 the exact sem thing happens, either the input is being read wrong, or players running around th eback of the ruck confuse the game on who was where, when you press pass. Not every pass is like that, but there was certainly a few in the video.

    • @MaDDragonRugby
      @MaDDragonRugby  Місяць тому +2

      To follow up, ive rewatched some sections, and I see what you mean, there are a good handful of examples where I said pass a certain way and the ball does end up that way, so I see why you thought I was getting it wrong. What I meant by those passes is that, I am pressing to pass 1 direction, and the animation that plays for the scrum half passing is clearly designed for him to pass the other way, and he passes around his own back in an attempt to go the way I was passing. So watch back through and take a look at what the scrumhalf is donig as opposed to where the ball ends up for a good few of those points.

    • @Ruan_B
      @Ruan_B Місяць тому

      @@MaDDragonRugby Awesome. Thanks for the clarification. Keep up the great videos by the way. I'll go back to it and check what you mean.

  • @hansielategan969
    @hansielategan969 Місяць тому +1

    I say nothing.

  • @1112-g1x
    @1112-g1x Місяць тому

    15 gig.....and it looks worse

  • @andrewmuir3302
    @andrewmuir3302 Місяць тому

    Bro 😭

  • @starzgarden5553
    @starzgarden5553 Місяць тому

    What an utter mess.