Why Pi-hole when you can RouterOS adlist?

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  • Опубліковано 2 лип 2024
  • RouterOS DNS server now has a new feature - adlist. Introduced in version 7.15 it takes URL lists and blocks unwanted web content.
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  • @jan.kowalski
    @jan.kowalski 14 днів тому +36

    Amazing! Mikrotik is is the go to technology because they LISTEN to the people.

    • @ON3RVH
      @ON3RVH 14 днів тому +1

      but they don't.. they add features nobody in the real world wants/needs instead of fixing their bugs and testing new releases before they come out instead of letting the community do their bug testing...

    • @jan.kowalski
      @jan.kowalski 14 днів тому +7

      @@ON3RVH Aren't you a little negative person? For instance I'm happy with mikrotik products since early 2000s.

    • @ON3RVH
      @ON3RVH 14 днів тому

      @@jan.kowalski negative? not really..
      I've used tik since a very long time and although I like using tik, ROSv7 has been an absolute nightmare..
      With every release they break new things, things that were working before are all of the sudden completely broken and new things that no one needs or wants are being added..
      DLNA, adlists, .. all useless for a router.
      DLNA for example has been obsolete for almost a decade but still the mikrotik team insists on putting money and effort into developing the standard all over a gain instead of fixing what is broken and new releases don't even get tested if you look at the forum.. all the bugs that folks find that are pretty easy to spot if they had done any decent testing of the release before putting it out there..

    • @user-lg4le8xr4s
      @user-lg4le8xr4s 14 днів тому +4

      ​@ON3RVH how many times have you copy+pasted that on this video now

    • @ON3RVH
      @ON3RVH 14 днів тому

      @@user-lg4le8xr4s 0 as I don’t copy/paste..

  • @thetechdudemc
    @thetechdudemc 14 днів тому +2

    Another use for this is as a content filter for public wifi, schools or libraries. They can import a list of NSFW websites to block and restrict access to, it doesn't have to be just for blocking ads specifically

    • @mikrotik
      @mikrotik  13 днів тому

      That’s true. You can make your own list with anything inside

  • @SoleSur5er
    @SoleSur5er 14 днів тому +4

    Just add a whitelist option and it will be perfect for regular home use!

  • @EvangelosBrempos
    @EvangelosBrempos 13 днів тому +1

    Thanks for adding more useful features to routeros. You people are awesome.

  • @davelloyd8454
    @davelloyd8454 9 днів тому

    Superb @mikrotik! Great job. Will this be going into the next release of winbox?

  • @Sarcasthik
    @Sarcasthik 14 днів тому +8

    Nice feature ! As others have said, it's not really on par with Pi-hole's features but it's a start !
    I personally don't need all the features Pi-hole offers, so just being able to whitelist URLs and check requested URLs per device would be enough for me.

  • @byronnarainna677
    @byronnarainna677 12 днів тому

    Just tried it out , works perfectly , Mikrotik for the win

  • @andresdds
    @andresdds 14 днів тому +6

    on hAP ac^2 with RO 7.15.2
    Locally hosted adlist - worked correctly, name-count=163299
    URL based adlist - same list, name-count=0

    • @mikrotik
      @mikrotik  14 днів тому +1

      Something prevented the download from URL. It could be incorrect SSL configuration, a firewall rule, DNS resolution problem or maybe just a typo in the URL.

    • @andresdds
      @andresdds 14 днів тому +1

      @@mikrotik I downloaded the file on the device itself without any problems with fetch, I will do more testing, thank you!

    • @mniewiera
      @mniewiera 14 днів тому +3

      @@mikrotik I'm having exactly the same problem. SSL verification is disabled, no firewall rule preventing it, dns resolution and typo can be ruled out since the same url worked when fetching the file on the router.

    • @mniewiera
      @mniewiera 14 днів тому +4

      Same problem here. Also nothing in the logs. Please let me know if you find a solution ;-)

    • @koalasoftteam
      @koalasoftteam 14 днів тому +3

      same issue for me ( 7.15.2, hAP ac lite, local file OK, url NOK)

  • @kchiem
    @kchiem 13 днів тому

    If a domain is listed in more than one host list, when it's matched, does the match count increment for both lists or just the first one?

  • @zorganek
    @zorganek 14 днів тому

    Super work ... thank.

  • @AshAckroyd
    @AshAckroyd 14 днів тому +1

    Excellent, just excellent 😁

  • @japanstation1
    @japanstation1 14 днів тому +5

    That's fantastic! Thank you for adding this feature.

  • @educ6632
    @educ6632 14 днів тому +2

    It would be good for it to download directly to RAM and bypass the flash, so CRS326 with 16MB of flash but enough RAM could use the feature.

    • @mikrotik
      @mikrotik  12 днів тому +2

      The list itself is already stored in RAM.

  • @marcoschirrmeister
    @marcoschirrmeister 9 днів тому +1

    We indeed do not need pi-hole, but we still need the underdog blocky. Why, because of its incredibly powerful and flexible confiootions.

    • @mikrotik
      @mikrotik  8 днів тому

      In RouterOS You can already redirect DNS queries to an external Adblock dns server, like AdGuard or Cloudflare. Same as blocky

    • @shadowkora
      @shadowkora 6 днів тому

      ​@mikrotik I personally use Pihole for local domain resolution along with Nginx, does Mikrotik allow that as well?

  • @Graham_Rule
    @Graham_Rule 14 днів тому +3

    My Pihole currently uses a number of lists and merges them (allowing me to keep a list on a server of my own as well as using external list). Is this something that Mikrotik can add?

    • @mikrotik
      @mikrotik  14 днів тому +3

      You can use multiple lists as well

    • @liosali
      @liosali 14 днів тому

      @@mikrotikdo we use the same method to add multiple lists ?

    • @BoraHorzaGobuchul
      @BoraHorzaGobuchul 14 днів тому +2

      ​@@mikrotik Yes, but does it merge them, avoiding duplication?

  • @NevaranUniverse
    @NevaranUniverse 14 днів тому +1

    Thats pretty awesome, though barebones. It would definitely benefit from the ability to comment each entry, and disable/enable them on-the-fly, just like usual adblock DNS'

  • @kchiem
    @kchiem 13 днів тому

    also, some times it's useful to pause ad blocking. can this feature be paused without disabling every single list?
    EDIT: nevermind, I see there's a pause feature in Winbox. could have mentioned that in the video.

    • @mikrotik
      @mikrotik  13 днів тому

      This is coming in one of the next updates

  • @maxpain177
    @maxpain177 14 днів тому

    Wow, perfect!

  • @anakinskywalker8624
    @anakinskywalker8624 8 днів тому

    Hi :)
    Really nice video!
    Could you give several examples of other reliable lists?
    Thank you in advance!
    Best regards,
    Plamen

    • @mikrotik
      @mikrotik  8 днів тому +1

      Here is one source you can try firebog.net/

  • @hoanggiangnguyen9308
    @hoanggiangnguyen9308 14 днів тому +3

    How long until mikrotik starts recursively resolving DNS?

    • @user-eh8oo4uh8h
      @user-eh8oo4uh8h 14 днів тому

      You can run a lightweight container with unbound/bind9 if you want a recursive DNS server.

    • @hoanggiangnguyen9308
      @hoanggiangnguyen9308 14 днів тому

      @@user-eh8oo4uh8h I did it! I asked if mikrotik could integrate recursive DNS resolution, that would be great!

  • @Maverick87Shaka
    @Maverick87Shaka 13 днів тому

    Can be used to have a kind of "whitelist? so block everything except the urls of a specified list?

    • @mikrotik
      @mikrotik  13 днів тому +3

      Download the list to your computer and edit out the urls you don’t want blocked.
      Whitelist as a feature is coming soon

    • @Maverick87Shaka
      @Maverick87Shaka 12 днів тому

      @@mikrotik Thanks for reply! I'll have to wait the whitelist feature, since I have to block everything (especially unknown sites) allowing just the one needed for a specif software to run. There is an ETA or target build for this feature to come?

  • @4L3xN3t
    @4L3xN3t 14 днів тому

    Does it have the same clients grouping and white\blackilst functionalities pi-hole has?

    • @ON3RVH
      @ON3RVH 14 днів тому +3

      of course not.. It can't beat Pi-Hole as Pi-hole does so much more and is easier to maintain and troubleshoot
      The adlist on tik does not even have any features, just add the list and be done with it, while in the real world we need to do so much more and be able to whitelist too

    • @4L3xN3t
      @4L3xN3t 14 днів тому +1

      @@ON3RVH ok, thanks for the confirmation. I suspected it was a truncated function that this way is practically useless

    • @orlagh277
      @orlagh277 11 днів тому

      ​@@4L3xN3ti think it might be better for low ram devices, my ac2 seems to run out of ram from time to time when a container is running, i might just switch to an adlist since i just want to block ad websites

  • @DrewskiusMaxiumusTheThird
    @DrewskiusMaxiumusTheThird 13 днів тому

    After adding, it will not download the file. Tried a few different things and ended up manually making the file myself after copying the links to a txt file. That does work but wont auto update. Hopefully that download issue could be fixed or has a fix to get it to work later on.

    • @mikrotik
      @mikrotik  13 днів тому

      Probably you forgot to set ssl verify to off

    • @DrewskiusMaxiumusTheThird
      @DrewskiusMaxiumusTheThird 12 днів тому +1

      @@mikrotik Made that was off actually, also tried via winbox widget instead of cli. Looked over my firewall rules and cant see it getting blocked either.

  • @RadHard
    @RadHard 14 днів тому

    is it possible to do DNS server randomization like in blocky? (golang) That also is quite nice for privacy

    • @mikrotik
      @mikrotik  13 днів тому

      You can add as many dns servers as you want

    • @RadHard
      @RadHard 7 днів тому +1

      @@mikrotik I've successfully implemented DoH using your guide, and it's working great for my home network. However, I'm encountering an issue with the new DNS adlist feature. Despite setting up 6 ad-blocking lists, none of them seem to be matching when I use various DNS testers. Is it possible that the adlist feature is incompatible with DoH? Or am I missing a step in the configuration process?

    • @hey_leao
      @hey_leao 15 годин тому

      @@RadHard They said that you cant have this 2 features enable. Unfortunely, or you use DoH or use Adlist.

  • @EftiarHossain-oo2gq
    @EftiarHossain-oo2gq 14 днів тому

    Thanks Mikrotik

  • @GreDi_PL
    @GreDi_PL 14 днів тому +1

    This functionality does not work if the router has the Use DoH Server configured :sed-pepe:

    • @mikrotik
      @mikrotik  13 днів тому

      You can’t “want to use other dns server” and “don’t want to use other dns server” at the same time.

  • @krillAmorim
    @krillAmorim 12 днів тому

    Can i use RouterOS on my Raspbery or Orange PI?

    • @mikrotik
      @mikrotik  12 днів тому +2

      No, bare metal install is only possible for x86 and AMPERE CPUs.

    • @krillAmorim
      @krillAmorim 12 днів тому

      @@mikrotik that's why we continue to use pi hole. If it works on my rasp i would buy a level 4 license for routerOS.
      But don't get me wrong, i'll buy a Mikrotik hap ax model, they're amazing! But i can't decide. Hap AX lite AX2 or AX3.
      Please Mikrotik make it possible to run RouterOS on my PI devices!

  • @gushhnet
    @gushhnet 2 дні тому +1

    Whitelisting please!

  • @biki1973
    @biki1973 14 днів тому +1

    how hard is that feature on internal flash memory? just in case i use this feature by downloading lists to connected usb memory and then refreshing adlist, but maybe it would be nice in the future to add option to select temp location for downloaded lists?

    • @edddy22
      @edddy22 14 днів тому +2

      As it uses dns server ram cache, lists being downloaded are only being stored in ram I assume

  • @NGC1433
    @NGC1433 14 днів тому

    Fantastic! Will check it out!

  • @me.ko.i1279
    @me.ko.i1279 14 днів тому +5

    Nice feature.

  • @livankiv
    @livankiv 14 днів тому +3

    Do not forget to add NAT rule, to avoid addlist bypassing :)
    /ip firewall nat add action=dst-nat chain=dstnat dst-port=53 protocol=udp src-address=! to-addresses=

    • @RmFrZQ
      @RmFrZQ 14 днів тому

      DNS-over-HTTPS will still bypass it. Any advice to mitigate that?

    • @livankiv
      @livankiv 14 днів тому +3

      @@RmFrZQ this task is for NGFW with DPI

    • @RmFrZQ
      @RmFrZQ 14 днів тому

      @@livankiv I've thought the same...

    • @WongTag
      @WongTag 7 днів тому

      Is Mikrotik going to offer deep packet inspection in the future?

  • @omarkhayyam3787
    @omarkhayyam3787 14 днів тому +1

    That’s so cool! Can’t wait to replace pihole with this 😂

  • @JokeryEU
    @JokeryEU 14 днів тому

    sadly it wont block youtube ads, pihole same wont

    • @mikrotik
      @mikrotik  13 днів тому +1

      It will. Just use a better list

  • @realivanjx
    @realivanjx 12 днів тому

    pihole is more reliable as of now

  • @ON3RVH
    @ON3RVH 14 днів тому +5

    Let me answer that question: Because Pi-Hole and AdGuard can do so much more than ROS
    yet another feature we don't need on a router instead of fixing bugs and testing releases before they come out

    • @mikrotik
      @mikrotik  14 днів тому +6

      Not everyone has a server to run pihole 24/7

    • @ON3RVH
      @ON3RVH 14 днів тому +2

      @@mikrotik sure they do. A rPi is cheap.

    • @Rewarpsudomakeinstall
      @Rewarpsudomakeinstall 14 днів тому +4

      @@ON3RVH I may have it, but this is more convenient.

    • @ON3RVH
      @ON3RVH 14 днів тому +1

      @@Rewarpsudomakeinstall how so? No way to add whitelists, whitelist a single domain, add device groups, identify devices on your network, ..

    • @BoraHorzaGobuchul
      @BoraHorzaGobuchul 14 днів тому

      ​@@Rewarpsudomakeinstall convenient my backside

  • @user-vy4sf5fl3n
    @user-vy4sf5fl3n 14 днів тому +2

    no need for this feature

    • @davidz1264
      @davidz1264 14 днів тому

      Why? Please elaborate

  • @DanielPetre
    @DanielPetre 14 днів тому +6

    But @MikroTik what is the update interval ?