Winegard HD7698 Long Range Outdoor HD TV Antenna Review
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- In this video I review the Winegard HD7698. It's a long range antenna that claims a 65+ mile range. How well does it work?
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OK so yesterday at a flea market a guy had a 300 dollar device that looked like a PC router with 2 antennas. And it picked up ever cable and satellite channel. It also had new movies. I for get the name of the device. How did he get all that for free illegally of course? I would not buy it. Just curious on how he did it. He said you need a simple internet connection and Wi-Fi.
I believe who ever is paying the most to sponsor him will be the best Antenna from his opinion! His recommendation comes from highest bidder! That's a Fact!
@@bradleymiller7375 You can think that all you want. The fact is I usually don't recommend this antenna with my antenna recommendation service because not everyone has multiple VHF stations that are weak. There is no one antenna that's "the best" for everyone. This one is probably the best for an area where there's a lot of VHF based on performance. If you don't believe me - watch any other antenna I reviewed. I never got WHYY over 46%. BTW if I wanted to sell out to the "highest bidder" I'd go for the Chinese antenna companies because they reach a lot more people and my videos of them perform well. Yet you'll see that I clearly tell people not to buy them because they don't work well.
@@bradleymiller7375 You, obviously, do not know Tyler and how he operates his channel. Keep your negative opinions to yourself. No one wants to hear them.
@@journeyon1983 damn I lowered myself to ur level, in the gutter! Sorry but mind ur own business! And then you can keep ur lowest comments to being ur self! I won't lower myself to comment to ur low standards again!
Winegard is a great company and has been making antenna's in my home town for decades. Top quality products made by good local people.
I like installing them too, along with Channel Master :)
Our house has a Winegard Colortron (“finest color and black and white TV reception”, says the label on it) that must be at least 30 years old. After we cut the cord last year I bought a PCT drop amplifier that was recommended on this channel and after I removed the rats nest of coax and unpowered splitters that were attached to it on the wall near its ceiling mount, now we have excellent local tv reception (outside of Philadelphia) on 6 tvs in the house, and the Hauppague tuner on my Xbox.
Statistics say not all the people are good people.
I purchased the HD8200 a while back. It works wonderfully in the rural area where I live. There are a few stations in the local major market that broadcast on the low VHF frequencies, that are very low powered, and their signals just don't make it out here to the boondocks. The reason I bought the HD8200 antenna, versus the HD7698, is because the longer elements of this antenna work better for FM radio, than do the shorter elements of the HD7698. (The bottom of the FM radio band starts at just above VHF channel 6, so the longer elements of the HD8200 are more closely suited for FM radio than are the shorter elements of the HD7698.) I get every major TV station from the city, as well as stunning reception of the FM radio stations! One can't go wrong with Winegard, as long as it's one of the "real" antennas.
between my Dad and I, we sold Winegard products for 50 years retail at the mom and pop level. Never disappointed. The 7550 elite is my go to nowadays. Easy install good gain for it’s size. Backside reception better than most.
Same here, and we also sold the Channel Master Quantum.
Thank you. I don’t need or want all the technical crap. Just just want to know the best at distance
I have the winegaurd hd7694 about 25 feet up and it does very good for me. Have a good day!
I have been using the Winegard HD8200U @ 30 feet from the ground, and an Antennas Direct PA-18 Low-Noise Preamp for over a year. I live in the Oxford, Pa area, approx 45 miles from Phila Towers in King of Prussia. I love this antenna, yes it's HUGE but I get 60 channels even Channel 2 ME TV. We were side swiped by the Hurricane this year (path was less than 1 mile away) very high winds and zero damage to the antenna. Tyler helped me with what I needed and got me on the right track. This is a solid antenna, providing me with better than expected TV reception. Return on investment is FAST with current cable TV prices you can recoup your costs in 3 months when you cut the cord.
To go up to 30' what type of pole or stand are you using? I am up 20' and when I asked about going up another 10' via a pole I was advised against it and recommended to go with a tripod style stand which is $350 for EACH 10' section installed.
I use the Winegard HD7694P on your recommendation.It still works great.I get 61 channels.The only problem I have is during a bad rain or snow storm I lose my Fox station.
Yes, that's a great antenna!
I have the same antenna and it is up about 25ft.works great in Charleston sc
@@AntennaMan OK so yesterday at a flea market a guy had a 300 dollar device that looked like a PC router with 2 antennas. And it picked up ever cable and satellite channel. It also had new movies. I for get the name of the device. How did he get all that for free illegally of course? I would not buy it. Just curious on how he did it. He said you need a simple internet connection and Wi-Fi.
@@RandellVandergriff It's a device that accesses illegal IPTV services over the internet. I'm glad you did the right thing and didn't buy it. The seller will end up in jail one day.
I have this model antenna HD 7698 mounted outdoors about 14 feet above the ground. My location is on the top of a small hill about 110 ft. above sea level. I am about 50 miles south of Boston, 35 miles east of Providence. I receive 72 solid watchable channels. Not just when the weather is just right but all day long. No amplifier no rotor and a 50 foot cable run. This performance even though it is missing half of one element due to storm damage. My location hasn't changed in decades. This antenna is the best I have ever had here. Some of the great reception is due I am sure in part because of much better tuners in later model TVs. I have a 4 year old Samsung. Loving living without the cable bill.
I've had this antenna for 12 years. I used to have it on my roof, it's been in my attic since I got a new roof 3 years ago. Very good antenna, but a rotator is a must if you want to pick up stations not near it's line of sight. I only live 35 miles from most of the Houston stations and to be honest it is overkill giving me near 100% on most stations when it was on my roof. Signal is in the low 90s for most UHF in my attic.
I'm also in the Houston area, 44 miles away and do just fine with a little RCA ANT751R mounted outside giving me 80%+ to 2 TVs with no amp. I thought about trying a bigger antenna in the attic, but my roof has radiant barrier.
Is the rotator you use still manufactured?
I live in the Houston area too. Last year I upgrade to one of the Winegard models he mentioned and, yeah it may be “overkill” (if that even applies here), but I gained dozens of stations and they all come in fully. Mine is roof mounted. No regrets!
People don't realize that CBS 2,NBC 5 and ABC 7 designations are for branding and continuity. Pre 2009,they WERE on those frequencies. As always,great and informative review from Tyler.
Hence the reason Tyler always explains this in each video. It’s both informative and slightly annoying (as I am a long time subscriber).
@@ClassicGuy57 it’s only slightly annoying but a necessity for new viewers who have to learn this. Most don’t know of this. Before about 2010 they did bc. on these frequencies.
Not for KUSA (NBC affilliate), they switched their digital channel back to channel 9 the moment the required digital transition hit
Robert, are you in the Chicago TV market?
@@spencerkarterlive7378 can be in NYC as they seem to have the same line up
Thanks Tyler for finally doing a review on this antenna that I've been considering to buy. The only caveat here is there is no low VHF elements like so many other antennas. There's only one more antenna you have yet to review that I'd like to see and that would be the Winegard HD8200A model antenna. I'm dying to see the results on both the UHF & VHF (both high and low). If the Winegard HD8200A doesn't fair well, I think my choice is going to be one of the Televes amplified antennas and then get another antenna dedicated to the VHF low band and pair them up using a combiner.
I installed a Winegard HD-8800 antenna on my roof 13 years ago. It still performs as well today as the day it was installed. Premium build quality. I called their support and the gentleman called me back the same day. I will purchase Winegard products in the future.
Winegard has always made a great product I was a Winegard dealer back when rooftop Antenna's and C band and later KU band satellite dishes ruled the air ways. The Antenna I installed a while back is the HD8200. thank you for another great video
What I love about living closer to big cities is all tv transmitters from tv stations are located in same location,for example all Tampa Bay area stations are located at Riverview,so just point antenna at that location,same for Orlando to.My sister lives in Lakeland and she receives 125 channels from 2 of them same antennas I set up for her.I live in Alabama using same set up,but only receive 57 channels in my area from Tallahassee,Panama City,Columbus GA and Dothan ala,but in my area tv transmitters are spread out at different locations.Over all this is a excellent antenna.
I live on the Big Island of Hawaii which is more than a hundred miles away from Oahu where all of the stations are and I can pick all them up with this antenna. I have had it for years and it still works great. Thank you antenna man I added a booster awhile back and that helped too.
How well is all that aluminum holding up that close to the Ocean?
I clean it up about once a month
Years ago I bought a winegard that looks like this for the family hunting trailer in the southern woods of Missouri , works great for us . The trailer is 12 by 70 an we are not there often enough for satellite . We do get great reception , the neighbors are jealous . I use the correct belums and coax placed it up on a tall mast that has a rotor mounted on it . It has been so long I do not remember the model number . I enjoy your videos , stay safe .
Hi Tyler, I am happy to see you gave the 7698 such a positive review. I have one up at my house 30ft. off the ground, with a cheap mast mounted RCA pre-amp. (I am approx 35 miles South of Greenville, SC). Have had an antenna business in the '90's, I am VERY impressed with the performance. Even my "local" Christian station (WGGS Ch. 16 Broadcasts on Ch. 2 - 50 miles away), comes in very well, albeit, I do have to turn the antenna sometimes if the wind has pushed my rotator around.
For UHF stations, it can't bee beat!
As you said Tyler, Antennas are not one size fts all (the same for amplifiers). It really is an art to it.
Thanks for all your efforts!
Hey Jim, thanks for sharing your experience with the HD7698. It's a pretty good antenna especially for the VHF band band which for many areas is problematic.
@@jkeelsnc yes, WLOS comes in fine.
Keep in mind I just found your channel and I bought a paper antenna a few days ago. Their are only 4 towers two north 44 miles and 2 east 60 miles. After fails and fails I gave up I’ve tried every window, every direction, attic, floor, high ground & etc.. I placed it on my outside metal door facing east and boom 10 CHANNELS!! to my surprise it’s pulling this channels not from the north that is 44 miles but from the east that’s 60 miles! Absolutely no interruption, no issues so I’m wondering if it’s worth even investing in a better antenna since antenna point doesn’t really show a lot more channels.
put this on my moms house rural area and work better than all other antennas have used and most of them and all largest can get great signal. Buying another for me
This is a classic design, much like was atop my chimney 22-mi. Southwest of The Loop... and it was quite effective at bringing in broadcasts from all around Chicagoland in the day. ;)
Just installed the Winegard 7698P upgrade from the piece of junk you said not to buy. I went from 20 to 41 channels!!! Rural area with lots of trees. I should have listened to you long ago.
They were great back in the old analog days put up many, you won't be disappointed
My Channel Master long range I've had for 20 years and moved several times to different rentals has never failed me. I pick up Tampa and St Petersburg stations all the way from Orlando. Plus you can still get these at home centers and some hardware stores for less than 150 bucks. Regardless, all you need is the same style everyone used in the in the 70's. Much of this talk is overkill.
Thanks for your great review Tyler. I honest believe this is the antenna I’ve been looking for.
I have had this antenna on my roof for 11 years or so. Mine might be a different model number but it looks exactly the same. It works really well in my area. My significant other thinks it's a total eye sore though......women.....sheesh! She actually caught me watching your other video on the Televes DATBOSS LR Mix and asked why I didn't buy that one instead. I suppose it does look better than my Winegard.
While the Televes LR is a great antenna - the Winegard will perform a bit better for VHF. It all depends what frequencies are in your area and which TV stations are the most problematic. In most areas VHF channels are the most problematic but varies.
@@AntennaMan When I first set up my Winegard I pointed it North to get my major networks. I was somewhat disappointed with the results. I spun it around to the South and low and behold I got great reception for my Northern stations...huh? As it turns out I live up on a hill surrounded by taller hills. Catching the reflection off the hills to the south is the only thing I can come up with as to why I get such good reception.
Hello Tyler, have yourself a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year with more to come. Thank you for letting us know about this great antenna made in the USA. Peace. VF
Even long time quality 'made in USA' suppliers like Winegard have jumped on the HD antenna bandwagon... including 'HD' as part of the model number.
They have no choice as the majority of consumers use the keywords "HD" or "digital antenna" when buying one. If Winegard doesn't have either in their title (like my UA-cam videos) their antennas (and my videos) won't come up on search results.
@@AntennaMan It would also not make them money. Those Junk Antenna companies would the money.
@@ClassicGuy57 Agree. Maybe the real problem is the big mail order companies that allow those junk antennas from China with their highly false claims to dominate their websites with misleading advertising. It's a shame when US manufacturers have to market their products so as to compete with the often unethical Chinese junk.
Any antenna that advertises a range greater than 70mi. is a scam, because it's NOT the norm and they should be removed from websites so that the honest, quality USA manufacturers, such as this one, can better compete. If you search for your station's call letters, followed by FCC, you'll find the FCC site for that station that shows a contour map. You'll see that most contour maps, are AT MOST only 70mi max. That's the designed viewing area for that station. So if you live outside of that contour area, you can pretty much forget getting that station reliably, or at all, no matter what antenna you have.
Just as when people bought "Color TV antennas" for watching Color TV, just following the parade.
Once again . . . great video Tyler . . .thank you!
Live out in the country, this antenna and the addition of an Antronix amplifier splitter to replace the passive splitter block in the house work great
Just wondering if you use a preamp when testing these outdoor antennas or just simply using the antennas gain at your location. Great job on the videos, 👍
For those that may be considering the antenna recommendation service offered, Don't hesitate! Do it! The fee is a very small portion of the price of buying the wrong antenna. I am on the outer limits of the signals from Nashville. Thanks to Tyler i receive GREAT reception with as many as 54 channels. ( A few less if the weather is poor.) The ota reception web sites say there are no stations in my area.
Hey Barry, thanks so much for sharing your experience with my antenna recommendation service!
I have the Wineguard HD7694. I live on the 5th floor of an apartment building, so I have it in my living room next to a cement block wall. It gets stations from 2 cities in different directions, but is pointed at Madison WI, which is about 60 miles away. Very good reception, but occasionally I have problems for several nights in a row of picking up the Madison stations.
That's pretty impressive for being 60 miles away and using the antenna inside.
Great video Tyler. Random question is anyone else having trouble loading channel Master's site today?
Ransom question?
@@ClassicGuy57 stupid autocorrect. Thank you for pointing that out
@@RarestAce Anytime. Thank you for being so kind. Many get ticked off when words are misspelled. Glad you’re one of the nice ones. Keep it up. 👍
@@ClassicGuy57 I generally strive to be as kind as possible.
He compared an orange with two apples. The previous test results from the multi-directional antennas and the Winegard HD7698 is a long range directional antenna.
I have thoroughly tested the RCA (ANT702WZ) 50+ mile Amplified indoor/outdoor flat HDTV antenna at 18 miles from the broadcast towers. My rating for the antenna is 3 stars. It picks up UHF channels better than it does VHF. But I'm more curious about your results at your location, could you please do a review of this 50+ mile antenna since you're within the range that it's advertised on the package. Thank you.
One expects great results from Winegard. I have never known them to let anyone down.
Love that nagging wife photo and impression.
Here’s a great comeback for those of you with a wife nagging on antennas:
Wife: “I don’t want a large antenna on my roof”.
Husband (You): “Well, I don’t want to spend $200 on cable, especially your beloved Hallmark Channel”.
You’re welcome.
Wife: An antenna will look stupid.
Husband: Let me show you something that looks pretty stupid, where's that last cable bill?
I actually paid $3 for the graphic!
Philadelphia is not the only location in Pennsylvania to use the lower VHF frequencies. WQED (old channel 13) is now utilizing VHF channel 4. Utilizing the same tower as Channel 16 UHF, they must be using a lower power transmitter.
Due to atmospheric conditions, rf signals can change from day to day and even hour to hour. Would be a good idea to pick a solid performing antenna as a standard that you leave set up while you review and compare signal strength in real time between the two. Just a suggestion to help reduce errors due to propagation changes effecting signal strength.
I actually test out between 5-10 antennas on the same day within an hour then make the videos as the weeks go on. I also have a base antenna to check reception and make sure the signals are consistent. I can assure you my tests are accurate.
Hi Tyler, nice tests, best regards
Winegard made in USA? Good to know 👍
i have the HD8200 and i get 60 channels with it and have no amplifier. the one show wonr get channel 6 or anything lower. always buy the biggest antenna you can find
I have the Winegard HD7694P. 👍🏻👍🏻
I commented about it on another of your videos. I don’t remember the details of what I said right now (as far as numbers), but upgrading from the little RCA yagi that I had the Winegard added dozens of channels and they all come in fully.
Yes, the Winegard HD7694P has more gain than the smaller RCA model
Wineguard is one of the oldest tv antenna makers still made in the USA channel master went over to China for manufacturing and quality has gone down hill ....a lot
I live in Athens, TN, half way between Knoxville and Chattanooga. One is north and one is south of me. Both cities have transmitters that are 45 to 50 miles from me. Woule the Wineguard HD7698 antenna be able to pick up both cities, or would I have to pick one and ignore the other. If I had to choose, it would be Chattanooga. Thanks. Stephen Pell
Most likely it would get stations from the market it's pointed towards the best while the other market might not be as reliable. That's okay though - the majority of programming on out of market channels is duplicate anyway.
I have my old 30 year old TV Antenna still up ... Thanks for the info .
Looks quite good, but not for me considering several off-tangent stations. I'm sticking with my rebuilt Channel Master 4221, manufactured in the 300-ohm days.
I still have two 4221s on my 30 ft tower with the old 0264 pre amp. I think about 25 years old.
Yeah I think winegard is the best antenna I have two for my area in Florida and I get over 90 channels of local stations in 720 HD or full HD 1080p
Part of the video description is cutoff even after tapping on more. I use an iPhone 12 Pro Max. I suspect UA-cam is limiting the description. Ideas on how to see the complete description?
Send feedback to UA-cam and wait for future UA-cam app updates.
You can access the video from a web browser on your phone, and from the UA-cam app on your phone. Seems like one of those should work.
Try updating the UA-cam app.
@@AntennaMan I have the latest UA-cam app installed: version 16.46.5
@@markfuller Using Safari, I get the same results as using the app.
Winegard amplified leaf antenna facing south towards lake Ontario. 40-54 Channels 9th floor. Cut the cord ages ago!
tv is a lot different in USA than in England we use Freeview hear.
Excellent
For the size of this antenna and the slight improved percentage difference (maybe also due to propagation conditions) comparing at UHF,
I am not sure I want to put up such a monster antenna for such a slight difference. I understand no VHF reception to compare to your previously antennas but a smaller
combo of a 8 bay with a VHF section would be interesting to compare to this monster antenna.
You can see how an 8 bay antenna compares to this one on VHF by watching my video review of the Channel Master CM4228HD. ua-cam.com/video/wK7i0KBSvwY/v-deo.html
BTW
I ordered this one using you link. Its going up 70ft on a tower with a rotator, I'm feeding it with RG11
I do enjoy the faces in your thumbnails X3
Was wondering if you know if there are more repackages planned for ATSC 1.0? Recently had one of two VHF stations move to a UHF channel, so it could come in more reliably. I live in the Twin Cities market of Minnesota. Looking forward to ATSC 3.0, especially after it is made more available for general consumers.
When I see an HD antenna I click and comment! 🙆♀️
I just went with the RCA ANT3036WZ Outdoor 30 Element 113 1/4 - Inch Boom Antenna since it's old school and it was less than 70 bucks.
Yes - that's a good large antenna too!
You should also consider the transmitter power of the tv stations.
My cousin at Knoke, IOWA needs one of those with a good rotator. It might cure the lousy reception on some channels.
You're forgetting channel 6(abc) todd. How good are they?
I didn't forget it. I don't test out the channel on antennas that don't have low VHF capability. If you need help improving your reception of 6ABC sign up for an antenna recommendation on my website. www.antennamanpa.com/antenna-recommendations.html
Consider the HD-8200(U) and possibly a preamp for the VHF Low capabilities. It's big, but an amazing antenna.
Lower frequencys bigger antenna,higher frequencys smaller antenna,same with satellite to.
Tyler,what city are in ? How far is NYC or DC ?
I don't disclose my location due to privacy concerns
Lebanon ?
Allentown ? Reading ? Hershey ? Can you pick up NYC with latest antenna ?
Is this the biggest antenna Wineguard antenna?
We previously had the biggest antenna Wineguard made. I don't remember the number.
We were talked into the next size smaller and have regretted it ever since.
It gets about the same reception as the bigger antenna did with half the aerials missing.
Not to mention the new booster we had was not compatible, so we had to buy a new booster also.
I was very angry with Wineguard for steering us wrong and not informing us that we would need a new booster for the new smaller antenna.
. Is there any other antenna that would get as good of reception or better that the largest Wineguard?
It is the biggest high VHF and UHF Winegard antenna out there. Their larger low VHF, high VHF, and UHF capable antenna is the HD8200U.
@@AntennaMan are there any antennas out there any better?
I don't remember using anything but Wineguard for the last 40 years.
John Winegard invented the first multi-channel antenna in 1953
Hi Tyler, thanks for the great content! Is the HD7698A recommended over the HD8200A? They're the same price, length, and weight. The only issue I can see is the HD8200A is about twice as wide at 110" vs. the HD7698A at 53.5" I actually have a lot of room in my attic and don't plan on using a rotor, so the width wouldn't be in issue for my use case.
It depends if there's low VHF or not. Most areas don't have low VHF and don't need the 8200
@@AntennaMan Following up: I installed the 8200. Man, that thing is MASSIVE! Reception is a little better, for 6 ABC in Philadelphia (6.1). However, I still need to upgrade my coax to RG6 quad shield, and upgrade my old splitters and amplifier which should help.
@@GeezeRider Update #2: Okay- In an attempt to get 6 ABC (6.1) in Philadelphia to come in better, I upgraded my coax to Phat Satellite Quad shield RG6 with solid copper core. I also installed the Televes 560383. The result? My signal quality is now MUCH worse! I'm nearly at my wits end with all this. The kicker is that I got better reception using a 20 year old Archer FM antenna (that was a third the size of the Winegard HD8200A), cheap splitters, and a cheap amplifier. The Televes documentation is unfortunately just north of useless. I've checked the reception maps, and I should be able to get good reception on 6.1 Can't think of what else I can try?
I would like to see some reviews of FM radio antennas.
I already have a video on FM antennas below. ua-cam.com/video/lxbJXiV_xOY/v-deo.html
FM radio signals are so strong that in most situations you just need a basic vhf hi element. Do note that if you have any kind of amplifier that the FM trap is turned off. When doing this it is possible for FM signals to interfere with tv signals due to harmonics. So the 2nd harmonic would affect vhf hi channels and the 5 harmonic (usually pretty weak) will affect low frequency UHF channels.
are you testing all your antennas from the same height?... i am sure you are but wanted to ask
Yes, all antennas are tested on the same pole at the same height. In fact, I test 6-10 of them within an hour of each other on the same day and then make the video reviews in the weeks after.
Lucky you. I only have two channels in my area.
A proper review would entail a polar plot of antenna gain vs angle calibrated relative to an isotropic radiator or a lambda/2 dipole. This requires a calibrated antenna test range.
Doesn't have to be that technical. It would confuse everyone who is non technical which is most of my viewers. Just look at the numbers on the signal meter.
Thank You for Your work .
Thank you for subscribing to my UA-cam channel and watching my videos!
Hey tyler, could you maybe do a video on why the VHF band is used these days or on the idea why the transmitters down there are as weakly powered as they are? Edit: because I'm a little confused about both.
The answer to both of your questions is the FCC keeps selling TV spectrum to cell phone companies so TV stations were pushed back to VHF. The low power limits are so the nearby stations on the same RF channel don't interfere with each other but they still so because the FCC sold too much TV spectrum to cell phone companies.
@@AntennaMan hey tyler, hmm, ok, with what you mentioned about the fcc selling the RF spectrum to cell carriers, yeah, that does seem to be a problem. Could you review and edit your comment, mostly where you mention about the transmitter power? To me it appears a bit incomplete, particularly the latter part of where you mention about the transmitter power.
@@morganrussman Lower power limits were set to limit interference between two TV stations on the same RF channel spaced too close to each other after selling TV spectrum. Look up co channel interference for further explanation.
@@AntennaMan hmm, ok, and, Appreciate it.
I wish I could use that antenna, Apartment complex and the overhead power for the building comes in at the rear of my unit, Something mounted to the railing of the front porch is my only option pointed at Chattanooga.
I have this antenna the last antenna place around was closing but said this was the only antenna that they would use. When I first put it up we were getting 40 channels some didn't come in all the time. But since then we lost several channels and some were local channels. Some stations were coming in from other directions and they dropped off. I used a winegaurd amp also it didn't have the Bluetooth app. I think the cable is not a good quality but the places all closed that sold the good stuff. It's sad because cable and streaming services you are paying for 100's of channels that are all playing the same shows. I set up an appointment to have the place install my antenna but they closed down before they got to me.
I wish you would compare the VHF Low version (HD8200A Long Range VHF/UHF Outdoor HDTV Antenna - 65+ Mile Range) to a Xtreme Signal Long Range HD VHF UHF FM Outdoor TV Antenna (HD8200XL). I like the Antennas with VHF Low because I want to also use it on FM Radio. FM Radio need the longer elements. I would love to see how a old school Channel Master Quantum 1160A performs on Digital. I had a 1160 A years ago on a tower and it was the best Antenna for TV and FM.
Hopefully Winegard sponsors the HD8200 because I don't have any plans on reviewing them on my own. My video reviews or larger antennas perform poorly compared to smaller more consumer friendly antennas.
EXCELLENT EXCELLENT EXCELLENT EXCELLENT EXCELLENT EXCELLENT VIDEO!
Thumbnail expression 7/10.
Just like the one my dad bought a 1954 in San Bernardino California. Is this one really different?
I have two walmart RCA antenna's and two TV's, each are pointed about 2 inches different from each other, I get about 70--80 channels but missing a few on one TV and getting others on the other TV, I have to jump from room to room to watch certain channels, I am going to try this type of antenna and hope it will bring all the channels on one TV. (live in Los Angeles)
Hi, can this be installed inside an attic?
Came to ask this exact question
As far as I know, any antenna can be installed in an attic as long as there is space in the attic for it. (There's no special attic antennas. No antenna will work as well inside the attic compared to outside. The structure & shingles will reduce the signal a little, so I'd err on the side of larger. Remember: this antenna isn't designed for low VHF. If you have any stations in your area still on that, this one wouldn't be ideal.).
@@markfuller I see you’ve graduated from Tyler the Antenna Man School.
Any antenna can be installed in the attic
I have one customer that bought a 7698 on my recommendation to only find out, there was too many trusses in his attic for it to fit for the direction he needed to point it. Ended up putting in a Televes Ellipse which is a lot smaller and has a built in preamp. Getting perfect reception 40 miles out. Beware on it's size for attic installs.
Can you one day make a comparison of the major antenna manufactures against each other's antennas that have all three elements for low V, high V, and UHF like the winegaurd 8200U, televes datboss mix lr, and whatever channel master, rca, antennas direct and the rest offer?
Looking at the Winegard HD8200. I live in 57751, would appreciate your input. Thanks!
I've got one sitting in it's box, the antenna it will eventually replace is half the size and gets me almost 50 channels
What’s the best antenna for camping?
Hey TYLER My local channels are VHF HIGH and UHF... is this what you consider the best antenna for that or did you test something better??? im currently using a much smaller Winegard antenna like this one your testing here.. kinda like the 7694, but with 2 more VHF elements!
There is no one antenna that's the best, even this one. It depends what frequencies are most problematic in your area. I found this Winegard to be the best for high VHF frequencies. If the more problematic channels are on the UHF band the Televes LR linked below might work better. amzn.to/3cEHYiu
You can also sign up for an antenna recommendation from me at the link below: www.antennamanpa.com/antenna-recommendations.html
@@AntennaMan no my UHF channels are within 2 miles of me.. the VHF channels are anywhere from 30-65 miles from me and id like to get the 65 Mile channel if I could!.. the antenna im currantly using as I said above does an ok job but cant pick up the 65 Mile station away, even on a hot summer night when conditions are awesome
Why does no one make a pole mounted amplifier with 300 ohm input? Why lose signal with a necessary balun 330 ohm to 75 ohm when the impedence matching could be done as part of the amplifier?
Hello, I have watched a couple of your videos this morning in seeking to get better TV for my home. I live in the Smoky Mountains, most of my channels on the real channel is below 13 (according to tvfool), and I currently can only get one channel inside with my cheap flat antenna. Most of the signals come from 60+ miles away. I have determined that an outdoor is the best option, esp since my home was built in 1930 and has more solid signal blocking material that it was built from.
All that being said, with having most of the channels being the lower numbers and a long-range, what would be the best option for me? I'm getting that I need to have it at a higher position than I originally thought.
Do not use TV fool. Their information is no longer accurate. You can sign up for an antenna recommendation from me at the link below:
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tyler, do you have a preamp hooked to any of the antennas when you test them?
No - all antennas are tested with the same coaxial cable without an additional preamp to provide an equal comparison
Does it come with the mast that is shown on the picture on Amazon?
I live in oregon . To the north is portland 60 miles or so to the south is Eugene about 60 miles. Is there an antenna capable of accessing both ? We are about in the center. In the willamet valley. Mountains to te east .and mountains mountains to the west. Any suggestions
While I'll be the first to slam the FCC for the way they handled the repacking, the VHF power levels are another matter. VHF travels the contour of the earth. In the valley where I lived in western Mass, with a huge mountain on each side, we received Boston VHF stations 90 mi. away. No UHF, just VHF because it bends with the mountain ranges. Back in the analog days, the max power was 100k (VHF-Lo) 316k (VHF-Hi) and 5M (UHF) Most UHF stations ran about 1 or 2M, I suspect because of the cost of generating that much power. Under the digital rules, the max for UHF now is 1M, or 20% of the original FCC allocations. I think you'll find that the DTV VHF stations are also operating 20% of their former Analog power. I believe the FCC just reduced all transmitters to 20% of their original power. The assumption is that if you have a 10db gain antenna for the UHF stations, and a 10 db gain antenna for VHF, all max power stations within a given market will be received with the same signal strengh. Tyler's video on this antenna proves my point because the signal level of WHYY was comparable to the UHF signals.
The obvious issue is that to get 10 DB of VHF gain, you have to have a horse sized antenna like the one you demostrated. AND, because most other antennas have poor VHF gain, it makes those stations harder to receive.
I beleive the FCC has balanced VHF/UHF propagation, the same as the old analog days. The same quality signal level actually exists for both UHF and VHF in any given market, but it's up to the CONSUMER to purchase the RIGHT equipment with the SAME gain level on both bands.
Since most antennas have a high UHF gain and poor VHF gain, it's easy to blame the FCC for the VHF problem, but if they raised the VHF power to compensate for a poor VHF gain antenna, those signals would actually travel too far, due to their longer propegation and interfere with other markets. The solution? Hire Antenna Man and have him install the proper antenna equipment!!!
For Tyler, suggest you provide the actual manufacturers advertised GAIN in db for each antenna you demonstrate. Both for UHF and VHF. The serious, reputable quality antenna manufacturers provide these gain numbers to help you decide what you need. The china junk antenna manufacturers usually don't. That would help separate the quality antennas from the junk!
I've dealt with over 5,000 antenna recommendations with my service. I can tell you right now that VHF is a problem. Almost every time a person has an issue picking up a TV station it's on the VHF band. Yes in the analog days the signals hugged the Earth better but in the digital era things are just too noisy to the point they are unreliable in many situations. The FCC should have set the power limits a bit higher for VHF due to the noise
Do you think the HD8200U has a chance Of pulling in WPVI?
I would be very interested in seeing The HD Stacker tested. Want to compare with this Winegard in this vidio
That antenna is no longer sold online so I won't be reviewing it.
Have you ever tried using a scanner antenna as an Omni Directional TV antenna?
It may just work, but don't assume it will.
Most TV stations radiate their signals only in the horizontal plane (though some may offer circular polarization - especially Low-VHF band stations).
Most scanner antennas are vertical polarization-only.
Is the HD8200A design from the 60s?
What can I do if I'm surrounded my mountains and can't get the signal from the local TV station?? Only 27 miles away..
Hello Antenna Man, would you be able to tell me if making myself a gray-hoverman side by side setup type for stations that are located 30 to 50 miles from my homebase ??? Thanks a lot fella too. vf
Do I need to ground my antenna if it is in the attic
Do some TV stations broadcast on both UHF and VHF? I am in the Chicago area and pick up CBS on both channel 2.1 and 48.3.
Only if they have repeaters which is the case of CBS in Chicago.
Thank you for the explanation.
On some tvs when you do a scan depending on the signal it scan in rf frequently and display that for a few seconds and remap to display channel-virtual call letter channel.
Yes, with repeaters. Some stations have what is called a translator by which the station owner has a special license and they must carry the same content as the main broadcast. There are also stations like the ones in my area that retransmit only the main feed of WHTM Harrisburg's abc station on some low power UHf stations since Thier vhf signal is hard to get in places. They do not however carry the same subchannels on the low power stations.
I live in Florida in a trailer what would be best antenna for me.
Is the Winegard HD7698P TV Antenna an amplified antenna?
No, but whether an antenna is "amplified" or not doesn't matter - the size and design does. You can put an amplifier on any "unamplified" antenna.