Mordent vs Trill: What’s the Difference?
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- Mordents and trills look so similar on the page. You usually find these in Baroque era music of Handel, Bach, Scarlatti and other composers from that time. I want to show you one specific difference that’s very important.
I learnt the mordent to be 3 notes. The trill is a longer duration. Mordents can be upward, like a short trill, or downward, going to the lower note. The trill is always upward unless a specific acciaciatura or apoggiatura is written to the contrary.
Mordent is what you described but trill is different for different era, composer, and school. Trill can start with the base note or trill note. It is also instrument dependent.
I like the clear and informative way you describe the subject matter--very admirable presentation skill!
Very clear and focused explanation. I liked it. Thank you for sharing.
Robert, that was a fantastic explanation! It really made it clear!
We were taught that inverted mordents only went down... mordents went up.
"because we don’t really know what people played hundreds of years ago, do we?" This is such an important statement that I asked myself and piano youtubers about tempo indicators. I mean who really knows what bpm a piece was actually written and played at. All we have is a vague description at the top of the music sheet.
I just make music in FL Studio so i’m glad i’m learning more into music theory.
I always known that they were upper and lower mordents a trill is a extended upper mordent
A large factor here is the time period. This video is correct as far as High Baroque ornamentation goes, but the exact marking used on the score, the style of execution, and the modern interpretations, differ. Mozart, coming after Bach but before the 19th century, is played very inconsistently by pianists today because of disagreements over where to 'draw the line' between historical forms of the trill.
Ty+also love your tone.
Technically, a mordent is supposed to go a note up, (not unless it’s inverted). A trill goes up a note, and it lasts longer.
Bravo Maestro !! gracias!!
Thank you very much, great tutorial.
It’s like improv in the baroque era!
Robert; please make a tutorial on the tempest sonata no.17 especially the third movement' as I am having difficulty playing it
Your series are amazing. Thank you so much !
Robert, I was taught that Mordent ment "to bight" and was more agressive than a trill. Is this true?
Bach has a note on ornament. Not a problem to me. However for other composers especially for different area and different schools(Like french) of music are confusing.
Wow dear sir, so according to what you interestingly said and as I am learning to play by ear because I am not into reading music, one is ok to do ones own mordents and trills if one wants... is not wrong, provided it souds nice... Am I right? I love the way you explain... left hand is like a ballerina☺. Thank you for this, I apreciate it.
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I play the guitar, but I'm here too. Thank you so much!
Great information, a mordent can be lower mordent or upper mordent, I read somewhere
Does trill have to start on the upper note? Can it start on the lower note? B-C-B
Was your intro inspired by Liszt's prelude?
I’ve been playing piano by ear for about a year but I didn’t start taking lessons until about 6 months ago....working on Mazurka in B-flat major, op. 7, no. 1 at the moment...this really helped, these trills and mordants are gonna be the death of me lol, I love Chopin tho😂🤧
What would the difference be between a grace note and mordent? Is it just that the grace note is actually written in the piece specifically and can be above or below the main note?
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According to Hiller, for singers an inverted mordent is a half trill. 😁 Haha
oh dear apart from being over confident of yourself , what you have there is a mordent and an inverted mnordant. A trill is represented by tr above the note. look it up
I’m pretty sure a mordent is a note above, a lower mordent is a note below and trill is alternating, ending with a turn
does not necessarily end with a turn but it can. and yes there is a lower mordent and upper mordent. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mordent. The true definition has changed over time and like he said there is no real way of knowing what was played that long ago so just play what sounds good and natural even if it is no generally accepted by academia.
I already knew what a mordent and a trill were, but this was still interesting...
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