Great presentation. I just get one of those 2.5Kw for 1100€ and put it in sleepeng room (13m2). First impresion is that works great. And its installed only 7 cm away from celling. I like silent mode and function that directs fresh air left or right away from person who sleep bellow. Today is almost 40 deegres celsius outside home and 30 inside the room. I programed for inside on 23. It works like a charm. It keeps themperature while running but when off after two or three hours reise again on 30. When I opened the doors it also cooled off the coridor (8m2). I tried to cool of and second room of 14m2 but no succes. The temperature in first room claim to 25. But I had to try. Just to mention that both rooms are under direct sunligt and there is no a thermal protection on outside walls. I plan to put roockwool outside and test it again then. Greeting from at moment hot Croatia.
Posjedujem dvije AP-3,5 kw i AP-5kw.Oduševljeni smo mi ukućani i niti jednog uloženog Eura nismo požalili. Mitshubishi broj 1 Fujitsu i Toshiba uz bok Mitshubishiu Daikin se diči na staroj slavi
I’ve recently had a Mitsubishi multisplit installed and it’s making a really weird noise in the outdoor unit. It’s not coming from the fan but the condenser side (it’s much louder than the fan noise). It’s almost like u can hear the liquid travel through the pipes, like having air in a home radiator system. Is this normal?
Good evening, I also have the same problem. was told by the installers that they don't know either, but that they recognize that it is not normal: however, the installation was done in a workmanlike manner 😳 can you help me if you have had any news in the meantime?
Unfortunately, I must agree with you. I have been using ME AC for years. I have SF25 (6 years and still going strong) and i just bought new AY25. To say that I’m disappointed would be an understatement. AY25 is very loud, the outdoor unit has a very distinctive vining sound and on low load it has a ticking sound, compared to my old SF25, AY25 is a joke. Internal unit has a sound like wind gushing. On heating mode, I can clearly hear compressors working and modulating in my indoor unit! I’m waiting for service in September but from my pov this is a low-quality product made in Turky and below ME standards. I have posted how my internal unit sounds. I’m waiting for service and also service company in Croatia listen to this sound and they also don’t know what the cause is. A lot of problems with AY series. When I listen to my neighbors cheap Midea and Gree products I can’t belive how much money I paid for an inferior product. ua-cam.com/users/shortsW2m-ligc4Hc
This noise is truly shameful! It's the same as what mine do (three multisplit units) and the service center in my country (Italy) even accuses me of being fussy. Let's all be heard, also because at this point I was either buying the Kirigamine, or directly a cheap product. I wanted to ask you what is your external drive? Mine is one that controls three internal units, and it makes an absurd amount of noise. The other unit, which is a monosplit, does not make this noise! but so this is a cheap line made in Türkiye? what does it mean that the other Mitsubishi ones are better? if I think that they sold me Daikin at a lower price I bite my fingers!!
Hi, after watching your video I am considering getting a 5kw AY unit. Could you explain the difference between Mitsubishi Electric and Mitsubishi Heavy Industries and which is better? Thanks
I got an important question for you. Does any of these two AP/AY have these annoying crackling sounds when they do a defrost? Isn't the build quality of the glossy AP better than the AY ?
Hi, I got myself a 2.5kW set in September and it was working fine except for very loud hissing / blowing sound coming out of the internal unit under heavier cooling loads.(kind of like air or steam bursts but it is not the fan). It happened right after starting the AC, lasted for a few to several minutes, and then came back in cycles once in an hour or so - always when the compressor was under significant load, e.g. ~800 kW of electrical power being consumed. My installer double checked everything, tried adding more refrigerant (as instructed by Mitsubishi themselves) even though the piping was only 6m long but it did not change anything and both units were sent back to the local distributor for their inspection. After a few weeks of waiting I got a new pair and guess what, the new unit does pretty much the same noise under similar conditions. Is this normal for these units then? The fan is dead silent on the lowest settings but these bursts are actually louder than the highest fan setting. The installer claims it is probably just how EEVs work in these units but I find it hard to believe that this model would be so widely recommended for bedrooms if that was the case. Interestingly, heating is actually very quiet, no complaints here.
Good evening, I also have the same problem. was told by the installers that they don't know either, but that they recognize that it is not normal: however, the installation was done in a workmanlike manner 😳 can you help me if you have had any news in the meantime?
@@iLoveTheseRemoras I've just had the entire installation redone from scratch on top of both units being replaced last year. The issue remains. Now I wonder if all MSZ-AYs do this. If there is someone who is 100% happy with the unit and does not experience any weird sounds during cooling, please drop a comment. Btw, yes I meant 800 W ;-)
thanks for the review, can't find any other reviews of the AY! listened to your video on the best aircon units as I'm looking at having a split, one unit in bedroom and one in living room. Thinking of 2 AY units, but considering paying extra for one emura and one stylish... What do you think? and what would the price difference be (mitsubishi vs daikin), roughly? 500 pounds?
Hello Aaron... Its a great unit.. but still new.... The new emura and stylish are both great units and fall in the premium class of daikin models... Your looking at an additional £350-450 per unit over the MSZ - AY
@@theoutspokenengineer Only thing holding me back from the AY units is the potential for yellowing... but that is a lot of money! Thank you for the reply🙏
Mitshubishi broj 1 u svijetu Uz sam bok idu Fujitsu i Toshiba Daikin živi na staroj slavi,ali su isto dobro prodavane. Posjedujem dvije Mitshubishi klime AP 3,5 i AP 5kw i ne vidim nikakvu evoluciju AY. Niti jednog eura uloženog nismo požalili što AP-enice kupili
I was quoted MSZ-AY35VGK 3.5kw for £1500 does the price seem fair? How much extra would I pay if I was to get a Daikin Stylish instead if that's better? I don't want the LN that's too big for my bedroom.
@@theoutspokenengineer which high end Mitsubishi electric/heavy industries would you recommend apart from the LN? 3.5kw need something the same as the Daikin Stylish or better.
This depends, the LN offers more in terms of control and functionality. AY is a great unit too! If your not going to make full use of the LN eye senor get the AY
@@theoutspokenengineer I just want reliabilty and energy savings. That's why I would rather spend more on a good unit than on electricity bills, but I wasn't sure if it's worth it to go for the top model. Thank you.
We have a ground heating system operating from 2004. Last year we replaced the nit. We have been heating our garage with direct electicity but now i decided to put a heatpump in it. Among the top names I found this the best option. I was also concidering going cheap with Gree or some of their units branded otherwise. I will tell you why I did not. In my garage which is probally larger than your appartment sound, a sticker or light does not matter. What does matter is that the unit works whitout acting strange in some of the cases with the cheap Chineese pumps. They tend to through ot a new product with a new name every 5 to 10 years. I do not cla8m this to be the most efficient air-to-air pump but most likely one that will last and cause less issues. Would it not be fare to say that you have evertyhing wrong when it comes to heat pumps. Not everything is suitable for your size and purpose. I mean there are likely people with different needs beside yours. Well the heading watch this before buying a mitsubishi AY series heatpump becomes clear when watching their offering, which you apperantlly have not.
@@theoutspokenengineer I would say, it's not an upgrade over the last model - AP. Just my humble opinion. AP's got better air flow/ sound pressure ratio.
Sorry, but I need ACTUAL information. How big a house, or how big a room, can this thing cool? Where does the plumbing run? In the wall? In the floor? (tunneling through CONCRETE!?!?!) in the ceiling? I live in Tucson Arizona, where outside temps reach 115-120 degrees F. Can these units even WORK at those temps? I don't care about heating, since I haven't even had the heat on at all for the last 5 winters. It's not even a consideration to me. What's the warranty on this thing? How long does it take to install this system? How is Mitsubishi service? Will Mitsubishi stand behind the installation when I find all the stuff the installers did wrong and left out? THESE are the questions I want answered. I could care LESS about the white color or where the label is.
Great presentation. I just get one of those 2.5Kw for 1100€ and put it in sleepeng room (13m2). First impresion is that works great. And its installed only 7 cm away from celling. I like silent mode and function that directs fresh air left or right away from person who sleep bellow. Today is almost 40 deegres celsius outside home and 30 inside the room. I programed for inside on 23. It works like a charm. It keeps themperature while running but when off after two or three hours reise again on 30. When I opened the doors it also cooled off the coridor (8m2). I tried to cool of and second room of 14m2 but no succes. The temperature in first room claim to 25. But I had to try. Just to mention that both rooms are under direct sunligt and there is no a thermal protection on outside walls. I plan to put roockwool outside and test it again then. Greeting from at moment hot Croatia.
A jel grije na minusu? Ja sam upravo naručio 3.5 kw model.
Što je s tim svjetlom na koje se žalio kod starog modela? Je li to riješeno bolje? Možda je i spomenuo, ali ja nisam čuo.
Mislim kupit ap ili ovu za prostor od 20 ak kvadrata . Hoce li mi biti ok i za grijanje ?
Posjedujem dvije AP-3,5 kw i AP-5kw.Oduševljeni smo mi ukućani i niti jednog uloženog Eura nismo požalili.
Mitshubishi broj 1
Fujitsu i Toshiba uz bok Mitshubishiu
Daikin se diči na staroj slavi
Hi, is the Mitsubishi AY series optimised for heating? What is the lowest temperature which the device is effective?
According to the manufacturer - down to -20 degrees Celsius.
I’ve recently had a Mitsubishi multisplit installed and it’s making a really weird noise in the outdoor unit. It’s not coming from the fan but the condenser side (it’s much louder than the fan noise).
It’s almost like u can hear the liquid travel through the pipes, like having air in a home radiator system.
Is this normal?
Emailed
Good evening, I also have the same problem. was told by the installers that they don't know either, but that they recognize that it is not normal: however, the installation was done in a workmanlike manner 😳 can you help me if you have had any news in the meantime?
Potresti informare anche me? Grazie e complimenti per il video!
Unfortunately, I must agree with you. I have been using ME AC for years. I have SF25 (6 years and still going strong) and i just bought new AY25. To say that I’m disappointed would be an understatement. AY25 is very loud, the outdoor unit has a very distinctive vining sound and on low load it has a ticking sound, compared to my old SF25, AY25 is a joke. Internal unit has a sound like wind gushing. On heating mode, I can clearly hear compressors working and modulating in my indoor unit! I’m waiting for service in September but from my pov this is a low-quality product made in Turky and below ME standards.
I have posted how my internal unit sounds. I’m waiting for service and also service company in Croatia listen to this sound and they also don’t know what the cause is. A lot of problems with AY series. When I listen to my neighbors cheap Midea and Gree products I can’t belive how much money I paid for an inferior product.
ua-cam.com/users/shortsW2m-ligc4Hc
This noise is truly shameful! It's the same as what mine do (three multisplit units) and the service center in my country (Italy) even accuses me of being fussy. Let's all be heard, also because at this point I was either buying the Kirigamine, or directly a cheap product. I wanted to ask you what is your external drive? Mine is one that controls three internal units, and it makes an absurd amount of noise. The other unit, which is a monosplit, does not make this noise! but so this is a cheap line made in Türkiye? what does it mean that the other Mitsubishi ones are better? if I think that they sold me Daikin at a lower price I bite my fingers!!
Hi, after watching your video I am considering getting a 5kw AY unit. Could you explain the difference between Mitsubishi Electric and Mitsubishi Heavy Industries and which is better? Thanks
Mitsubishi Electric is 100% better then Heavy
@@theoutspokenengineer What are the reasons? Tnx for the answer!
I got an important question for you. Does any of these two AP/AY have these annoying crackling sounds when they do a defrost? Isn't the build quality of the glossy AP better than the AY ?
As far as we know there isn't a crackling sound upon defrosting, In our opinion AY maybe slightly better in quality
Hi, I got myself a 2.5kW set in September and it was working fine except for very loud hissing / blowing sound coming out of the internal unit under heavier cooling loads.(kind of like air or steam bursts but it is not the fan).
It happened right after starting the AC, lasted for a few to several minutes, and then came back in cycles once in an hour or so - always when the compressor was under significant load, e.g. ~800 kW of electrical power being consumed.
My installer double checked everything, tried adding more refrigerant (as instructed by Mitsubishi themselves) even though the piping was only 6m long but it did not change anything and both units were sent back to the local distributor for their inspection. After a few weeks of waiting I got a new pair and guess what, the new unit does pretty much the same noise under similar conditions.
Is this normal for these units then? The fan is dead silent on the lowest settings but these bursts are actually louder than the highest fan setting. The installer claims it is probably just how EEVs work in these units but I find it hard to believe that this model would be so widely recommended for bedrooms if that was the case.
Interestingly, heating is actually very quiet, no complaints here.
Hi, did you ever get to the bottom of what caused it?
800 kW is by the way a every significant load, hopefully you meant 800 W 😁
Good evening, I also have the same problem. was told by the installers that they don't know either, but that they recognize that it is not normal: however, the installation was done in a workmanlike manner 😳 can you help me if you have had any news in the meantime?
I have the same issue with MsZ-AY35VGKP ,installed in my bedroom 2 months ago. I will get in contact with ΜΕ technical support about this.
@@iLoveTheseRemoras I've just had the entire installation redone from scratch on top of both units being replaced last year. The issue remains. Now I wonder if all MSZ-AYs do this. If there is someone who is 100% happy with the unit and does not experience any weird sounds during cooling, please drop a comment.
Btw, yes I meant 800 W ;-)
I want know same info about MSZ-EF. Is Better of the MSZ-AY ? Thanks
EF More simpler less to go wrong, AY newer unit more functions , less attractive
@@theoutspokenengineeradamım ❤
thanks for the review, can't find any other reviews of the AY! listened to your video on the best aircon units as I'm looking at having a split, one unit in bedroom and one in living room. Thinking of 2 AY units, but considering paying extra for one emura and one stylish... What do you think? and what would the price difference be (mitsubishi vs daikin), roughly? 500 pounds?
Hello Aaron... Its a great unit.. but still new.... The new emura and stylish are both great units and fall in the premium class of daikin models... Your looking at an additional £350-450 per unit over the MSZ - AY
@@theoutspokenengineer Only thing holding me back from the AY units is the potential for yellowing... but that is a lot of money! Thank you for the reply🙏
Mitshubishi broj 1 u svijetu
Uz sam bok idu Fujitsu i Toshiba
Daikin živi na staroj slavi,ali su isto dobro prodavane.
Posjedujem dvije Mitshubishi klime AP 3,5 i AP 5kw i ne vidim nikakvu evoluciju AY.
Niti jednog eura uloženog nismo požalili što AP-enice kupili
hi Does AY have a heater in the outdoor unit against freezing of the condensate.?
It has a defrost setting, if that's what you mean? :)
I was quoted MSZ-AY35VGK 3.5kw for £1500 does the price seem fair? How much extra would I pay if I was to get a Daikin Stylish instead if that's better? I don't want the LN that's too big for my bedroom.
Sounds a little on the cheap side but if the install quality is good then that's a fair price, AY would be better option in our opinion
@@theoutspokenengineer which high end Mitsubishi electric/heavy industries would you recommend apart from the LN? 3.5kw need something the same as the Daikin Stylish or better.
Hi, Krazes, we dont reocmmend MHI as a comparison to ME @@krazes
Hello my friend!thank u for the review! I am buying an AC for the livingroom, do you think this is better option over the Daikin Perfera? Thanks!
100% MSZY AY over the daikin
@@theoutspokenengineer Thanks a lot! I will order it tomorrow!
@@theoutspokenengineer how is it better than Perfera?
@@SWENWAR WATCH THE VIDEO :) OR we have another ocmparison video
@@avelinobadana1053Hello. have you bought AY and are you satisfied?
Hello. I can get AY35 for around €1000 and LN35 for around €1500. Is it worth to get the LN for the price difference, or should I save my money?
This depends, the LN offers more in terms of control and functionality. AY is a great unit too! If your not going to make full use of the LN eye senor get the AY
@@theoutspokenengineer I just want reliabilty and energy savings. That's why I would rather spend more on a good unit than on electricity bills, but I wasn't sure if it's worth it to go for the top model. Thank you.
We have a ground heating system operating from 2004. Last year we replaced the nit. We have been heating our garage with direct electicity but now i decided to put a heatpump in it. Among the top names I found this the best option. I was also concidering going cheap with Gree or some of their units branded otherwise.
I will tell you why I did not. In my garage which is probally larger than your appartment sound, a sticker or light does not matter. What does matter is that the unit works whitout acting strange in some of the cases with the cheap Chineese pumps. They tend to through ot a new product with a new name every 5 to 10 years.
I do not cla8m this to be the most efficient air-to-air pump but most likely one that will last and cause less issues.
Would it not be fare to say that you have evertyhing wrong when it comes to heat pumps. Not everything is suitable for your size and purpose. I mean there are likely people with different needs beside yours.
Well the heading watch this before buying a mitsubishi AY series heatpump becomes clear when watching their offering, which you apperantlly have not.
Show me what they have inside outdoor unit, there you can see the real quality of the product.
Thank you, this is very helpful. I hope it has no ionizers/ozonators inside.
MHI and Toshiba got selfclean for so long. Come on, ME! What an extra! AY also lost 4 kilous, compared to AP. Why?
The casing is ever so thinner... its lost weight ;)
@@theoutspokenengineer I would say, it's not an upgrade over the last model - AP. Just my humble opinion. AP's got better air flow/ sound pressure ratio.
Sorry, but I need ACTUAL information. How big a house, or how big a room, can this thing cool? Where does the plumbing run? In the wall? In the floor? (tunneling through CONCRETE!?!?!) in the ceiling? I live in Tucson Arizona, where outside temps reach 115-120 degrees F. Can these units even WORK at those temps? I don't care about heating, since I haven't even had the heat on at all for the last 5 winters. It's not even a consideration to me. What's the warranty on this thing? How long does it take to install this system? How is Mitsubishi service? Will Mitsubishi stand behind the installation when I find all the stuff the installers did wrong and left out? THESE are the questions I want answered. I could care LESS about the white color or where the label is.