Behtreen Sir RSTV ko bahut bahut shadhuwad aise programs karne ke liye. S.Y.Quershi sir aur Satya Prakash Sir ke vishleshan bahut hi behtreen aur tarkik the.
Sabhi panelists ne apna tark bhaut acche trike se rakha hai jisme excutive ki power kay hai aur constitution me kis sudhar ki jarurt hai iska faisla parliament ko karna chaiye aur supreme Court ko constitution ki re writing se bachna hoga yahi democracy ka matlab hai.
agree with quershi sir jb 70 salo se parliyament n koi law nhi bnaya to aage bhi kyubnaygi hme disaster aane se phle apni safty k intezam kr lena chahiye n ki disaster aane ka baith k intezar krna chahiye
चयन प्रक्रिया में सुधार करना एक स्वागतयोग्य कदम होगा । जिससे पारदर्षिता में बढ़ोत्तरी होगी और देश की संस्थाओं पे भरोसा होगा।हालांकि कुछ कदम कार्यपालिका (सरकार) को आगे आकर करना चाहिए ,जिसकी मांग हो रही है जिससे न्यायापालिका पर दबाव कम होगा और न्यायपालिका अपना काम और बेहतर ढंग से कर पायेगी।
अगर आप एक संभिधानिक पद पर है तो उसे उतनी ही तालीम मिलनी चाहिये जितनी औरो को ... मुझे लगता है यहां एक ऐसे चयन प्रक्रिया की जरूरत है जो सरकार के साथ लोगो को भी विश्वास जीत सके।।
CBI is not a statutory body while mr. Satya said it is statutory body. RSTV kindly ensures wrong info. are not shared to the people. If someone did the same u can later clarified it. Do the same
बेस्ट वर्क ऑफ सुप्रीम कोर्ट Seperation of power का प्रयोग हो super बात है परंतु जब देश के लोकतांत्रिक व्यवस्था संचलाको कि योग्यता etc के बारे में संविधान मौन हो सरकार दलगत राजनीति करे तो अवश्यक नहीं अनिवार्य है लोक तंत्र की सेक्योरिटी SC करे
Qureshi ne... collegium system me sudhar lakar CEC k appointment ki baat kahi hai jo ki baki dono ne nahi dhyan diya... or mae baki dono ki reason se sehmat nhi hu jo aj tak kharab nahi hui iska mtlab ye nahi ki kal b shi chalegi.... agar ek vyavastha hogi to isme galat kuch nahi hai.. halanki ye appointment me deri ya fir appoint na hone jaisi istithi paida ho skti hai agar chedchad kiya to
S.Y.Quershi sir is best... Straight forwardly government ki band baja dete han.... India need more personality like you sir.... Thank you rajya sabha tv for amazing debate....
जैसा कि कुरैशी सर ने बोला बिली की गर्दन में गंटी बांधे कोन ,,, आज तक नेताओं के अपराधीकरण पर कोई भी पार्टी कानून बनाने को तैयार नहीं ह चाहे सताधारी हो या विपक्षी पार्टी जो b ho supreme court हमेशा जनहित का फैसला देगा उसे राजनीतिक फायदा नहीं चाहिए जो पार्टियों के लिए जरूरी ह
Despite of collegium we should form an appointment committee constitutes of judiciary and executive both As you can not blind trust on any of govt. Agency either it is executive legislature or judiciary ..
चुनाव आयुक्तों की नियुक्ति एक संवैधानिक प्रक्रिया है जो संवैधानिक तरीके से हो तो बेहतर है अगर कॉलेजियम प्रणाली से चुनाव आयुक्तों के नियुक्ति होती है तो इसमें बहुत सी गतिरोध और विसंगतियां देखने को मिल सकती है जैसा कि उच्च न्यायालयों और सर्वोच्च न्यायालय में देखने को मिलता रहा है अगर निर्वाचन आयोग में कॉलेजियम प्रणाली लाई जाती है तो इसके जद में UPSC और CAG जैसे संवैधानिक निकाय भी में आएंगे और यह एक तरह से संवैधानिक उपबंध व्यवस्था को समाप्त करने जैसा होगा उम्मीद है कि माननीय सर्वोच्च न्यायालय द्वारा अनुच्छेद 142 का बेजा इस्तेमाल ना हो और संवैधानिक प्रक्रिया में संसद द्वारा कानून बनाकर ही संवैधानिक व्यवस्था को दुरुस्त रखा जाए । कार्यक्रम के लिए राज्य सभा टीवी का धन्यवाद संतोष पाराशर मध्य प्रदेश।
are bhai chief ko neukt krne me savi organ ke sujhaw or opposition ke leader ke sujhaw se hona chahye pr esse savi organ independently thik se kaam karega or nispakch kaam karega less possibility hoga ektarfa kaam krne ka.
ok now the gist of the debate is every one agreed on the reforms sector Mr ECI wanted through SC while otehr two wanted it through Parliament's rule or law meaning change if possible as It is concerned with the Elections of India
Am highly agree with Quraishi sir. No one is perfect and nothing is perfect then why we always praise our constitution as a perfect. Things must change with time though it may constitution. If not then why 121 amendments required and that also 1 amendment it self brought by Nehru ji who was part of constitution assembly. At the same time Apex court must restrict herself. I am afraid of that tomorrow Apex court might declare S-400 unconstitutional because it violate article 51 though it's DPSP. Solution:- Make people of this great country powerful, aware of rights and then we will see automatic reduction in cases as people will chose integration rather domination, people will play with democracy (In good sense) rather parliament and judiciary. Let me know your stake on this.
एस वाई कुरैशी सर, सही बात कर रहे हैं क्योकि वो तो सिस्टम मे ही थे और जानते हैं की कैसे राजनैतिक दबाव बनाए जाते हैं। बाकी ये तो दोनो बैठ के दलाली कर रहे हैं ,कुछ पता नही है तब भी की सिस्टम के अन्दर क्या समस्या है । ये तो कुरैशी सर ही जानते हैं ।
लोकतंत्र एवं राजनीतिक शुचिता बनाये रखने के लिए स्वतंत्र एवं निष्पक्ष चुनाव कराया जाना आवश्यक है। इस हेतु निर्वाचन आयोग को सशक्त बनाया जाना आवश्यक है, जिसके लिए निर्वाचन आयुक्तों की नियुक्ति प्रक्रिया को निष्पक्ष एवं पारदर्शी किया जाना चाहिए।
Why is Rajya Sabha not even discussing the Modi government's move of supporting Rakesh Asthana and therefore corruption itself and illegally sending the CBI chief on leave and transferring every CBI officer probing Asthana and appointing a well known corrupted officer Nageshwar Rao in CBI chief's place. Is Rajya Sabha Tv restricted by this government from even discussing this issue?
this kind of discussion what we are looking for .................... it's fantastic from both side ,.................thank you so much rajyasabha tv ........and pls extend its minimum 29 min
कोलेजियम यानी भाई भतीजावाद को बढ़ावा देना है । यहाँ हमे शक्ति संतुलन बनाते हुए लोकतांत्रिक व्यवस्था कायम रखने की आवश्यकता है ,कुलीनतंत्र को बढ़ावा देने की बजाय।
इस बेहद संजीदा विषय पर रचनात्मक चर्चा के लिए RSTV का धन्यवाद. निश्चित रूप से अपने कई निर्णयों में सर्वोच्य न्यायालय ने संविधान के व्याख्या के बजाय उसे पुनः लिखने का काम किया है और कई बार विधायिका एवं कार्यपालिका का कार्य को अपने हांथो में लिया है. जिसकी वजह इन दो अन्य स्तम्भों की देर करने की आदत हो सकती है. फिर भी सर्वोच्य न्यायालय को जरुरत भर दखल देने का प्रयास करना चाहिए. संविधान के अनुच्छेद 324(2) संसद को निर्वाचन आयुक्तों की नियुक्ति के लिए विधि बनाने का प्रावधान करता है. अतः इस बार एक मौका संसद को दिया जाना चाहिए. अगर संसद इस पर नियम नहीं बनती है तो सर्वोच्य न्यायालय को नियुक्ति का अन्य प्रावधान करना चाहिए.
मगर जैसा कि कुरैशी सर ने बोला बिली की गर्दन में गंटी बांधे कोन ,,, आज तक नेताओं के अपराधीकरण पर कोई भी पार्टी कानून बनाने को तैयार नहीं ह चाहे सताधारी हो या विपक्षी पार्टी जो b ho supreme court हमेशा जनहित का फैसला देगा उसे राजनीतिक फायदा नहीं चाहिए जो पार्टियों के लिए जरूरी ह
supreme court ko kabhi bhi apne dayare se bahar nhi jaana chahiye. Jahan tal equal protection to all election commissioners ki baat hai, supreme court can interpret and give orders to government in this regard to bring a law. But chayan prakriya me chhedchhad karna supreme court ke karyaseema ke baahar hai aur agar wo ise change karne ki kosis karta hai to this would be against the ethos of the constitution, it would be like protector of the constitution violating the same.
Same system should prevail with a simple amendment to 1991 act to provide for removal process for ECs similar to that of CEC, election commission as an institution has became so strong in last 70 yrs owing fortunately to the brilliant appointees who were men of courage and integrity that i think future appointees will find it very hard to divert from conventions.
Thanku so much sir ....Bahut hi shaandaar debate,aaj ki debate me sabhi penelist ek se badhkar ek the ,but sabhi ache the and sabhi k decision vichar karne layak hain...... Quraishi sir aur satya sir k sath debate bhut hi interesting ho jati hai....
i am not spport colism system it no trnsparent and we talk about make law for change in coalism for cji do again in ec is good work do criminals make law for ec if parliyament make law fabour in own so give guide line by sc change in systeme no re write consititution and thanks for rajsabha tv invite a panlist talk negetive point and bad effect of any news chane
चुनाव आयोग एक संवैधानिक निकाय है। तीन अंगों के संकलन कार्यों को परिभाषित किया जाता है। अगर अन्य संवैधानिक निकाय में कॉलेज प्रणाली को लाया जाता है तो उसे भी स्वीकार करना होगा। चुनाव चुनाव आयुक्त राष्ट्रपति की दया नहीं है.अब चुनाव आयोग में सभी 3 कमिश्नर हैं उनमें से बराबर वेतन और भत्ते हैं लेकिन उन्हें संस्थागत निकाय के रूप में माना जाना चाहिए। कोई संवैधानिक साहसवाद नहीं होना चाहिए जो राजनीतिक रूप से प्रेरित है क्योंकि यह कमीशन निकाय की छवि और आखिरकार हमारे संविधान की छवि को भी कम करता है|
If Executives are not interested in doing anything good and relevant which is constitutionally required in this country. If executives are not able to perform then definitely judiciary would have to intervene from pollution to water and right to decent life that is article 21 so where executives are fair? Then what to say about constitutional body's reform by Parliament? Constitutional adventurism may not be good but non transparent and lethargic performance of executives is unacceptable. We have seen recently why press conference was postponed for 5 state's election by election commission and why Gujrat elections were postponed? Why only Gujrat cadre IAS OP Rawat is efficient for CEC post? These are serious questions as they are coming in these posts politically. So SC will take care as a judiciary and guardian of constitution wherever there is requirement of it to intervene? At least one pillar of democracy should work in a decent and efficient manner.
Everytime people keep talking about the inefficiency of the executive and legislature, but they never talk about the lacunas of the judicial system. The Indian judiciary is one of the most inefficient organ of the state, it would be much better if it cleans itself first... If all the cases pending in the judiciary are disposed off it will boost country's GDP at least by 1.5 - 2%, and people would have much more faith in the system. Judiciary is equally corrupt and highly unaccountable, actually the most unaccountable part of the government. The priority of judiciary is also hugely misplaced, while it normally never gives priority to matters of national importance, it keeps itself occupied in trivial matters specially the supreme court. Which harms the nation immensely. Never heard, that it gave verdicts on a matter of national importance in time.
sirf religion me adventurism galat hai banki baad duniya ke savi kaam me adventurism modern manav banane ka ek bunyadi tarika hai.. so adventurism hona chahye sirf religion me nhi ho..
here Mr satya is not clear as if some thing is wrong in some part of the COI then we need amendment so why not change that part if there may some chances of its misuse
Bro there is no system that is perfect, at least the current system is performing far better than collegium system and as far as political blame game is concerned it happens with supreme court also and in case of supreme court it was much worse and even now it is. And can you please tell me what exactly is it that is wrong with ECI?? Yes the point that all election commissioners should have equal protection that's good, but supreme court has no business changing the method of appointment of commissioners. SC must stay within it's constitutional limits.
Thank you sir and RSTV ECI ki niyukti mai satya sir sahi keh rahe hai....ki constitutional body Jo ek effectively work kar rahi hai use disturb nahi karna chahie..ye constitution destroy jesi nobat LA sakti hai, but Qureshi sir ka point is also right ki democracy ki neev hai election commission ..to usme yeh appointment power Change hone chahiye. so iss pr court ki guidelines ke anusar protective law banakar hamari democracy ko healthy rakha ja sakta hai...
I m not agree with satya sir because according to him/ constirution law making process is supreme authority,but in 70 yr why parliment / executive cant law for appointment of ECI. So PIL must goes to supreme court & already constitution has leave cheks & balance. In recent time there r various issue goes up to media & editorial like EVM , NOTA ,CASH FOR VOTE ,CONDEMN POWER FOR CEC so on . Malhotra sir is still in favor of govt ,so he cant speak with impartialty
Well same can be said about quraisi that he cannot be partial. Plus supreme court itself so corrupt and inefficient, does that men that executive and legislature should put pressure on judiciary that give this verdict withing a time frame? Well the custodian of the constitution has bent the constitution many time, its like the protector turning into tormentor.
Thank you sir and RSTV ECI ki niyukti mai satya sir sahi keh rahe hai....ki constitutional body Jo ek effectively work kar rahi hai use disturb nahi karna chahie..ye constitution destroy jesi nobat LA sakti hai, but Qureshi sir ka point is also right ki democracy ki neev hai election commission ..to usme yeh appointment power Change hone chahiye. so iss pr court ki guidelines ke anusar protective law banakar hamari democracy ko healthy rakha ja sakta hai...
Maine 1st time is channel ko suna....its really good .....
Thnx for watching rstv nd ur valuable suggestions and comments
Sir, kindly enagae one debate on employment status in india and status of govt intitative towards it..
Very very knowledgeable show
Keep making such shows
Excellent program
Sir, Very fast lecture. Requesting to RSTV and their team to slow 30% - 40% because all of we are learner.
Behtreen Sir RSTV ko bahut bahut shadhuwad aise programs karne ke liye. S.Y.Quershi sir aur Satya Prakash Sir ke vishleshan bahut hi behtreen aur tarkik the.
Wao qureshi sir...
Very clear and practical views
Thanks to Rajya sabha TV
Thank's.....RSTV team & sir providing this special programme
Thanq RSTV for an enlightening discussion on the subject....
SY qureshi सर is बेस्ट एंड straightforward ........सर जब भी किसी debate मे हिस्सा लेते है।।।उनका पूरा अनुभव से गागर मे सागर भर देते है
quraisi sir ap ko special thanks ap ki concept clear h and i am agree with you
Thanks RSTV
Good debate for election commission of India
Very very knowledgeable show
Keep making such shows
Thanks sir
Great point by Mr Qureshi sir🙏🏻🙏🏻
Very good debate...All three member raise good point
Thanks
thank you
Sabhi panelists ne apna tark bhaut acche trike se rakha hai jisme excutive ki power kay hai aur constitution me kis sudhar ki jarurt hai iska faisla parliament ko karna chaiye aur supreme Court ko constitution ki re writing se bachna hoga yahi democracy ka matlab hai.
Qureshi sir is always right.If every officer like him,india will change.
Check and balances is most important
Aaj ki charcha behatarin rahi, dono paksha logical the
Very nice debate....
Quershi sir Namaste. Thank you for vocal straight forward views.
Qureshi Sir 👍👍👍
Thanks rstv
चुनाव आयुक्त की चयन प्रक्रिया में बेशक सुधार होने चाहिए ताकि पारदर्शिता और निष्पक्षता बनी रहे ।
S.Y Quraishi is more logical than others
Nice
Sy quaraishi ki bat se sahmat he
agree with quershi sir
jb 70 salo se parliyament n koi law nhi bnaya to aage bhi kyubnaygi
hme disaster aane se phle apni safty k intezam kr lena chahiye n ki disaster aane ka baith k intezar krna chahiye
thank you qureshi sahab for great debate
जब कोई सस्था अच्छा काम कर रही है उनको नही बदलना चाहिये
Awesome! Debate sir
चयन प्रक्रिया में सुधार करना एक स्वागतयोग्य कदम होगा । जिससे पारदर्षिता में बढ़ोत्तरी होगी और देश की संस्थाओं पे भरोसा होगा।हालांकि कुछ कदम कार्यपालिका (सरकार) को आगे आकर करना चाहिए ,जिसकी मांग हो रही है जिससे न्यायापालिका पर दबाव कम होगा और न्यायपालिका अपना काम और बेहतर ढंग से कर पायेगी।
अगर आप एक संभिधानिक पद पर है तो उसे उतनी ही तालीम मिलनी चाहिये जितनी औरो को ...
मुझे लगता है यहां एक ऐसे चयन प्रक्रिया की जरूरत है जो सरकार के साथ लोगो को भी विश्वास जीत सके।।
Satya sir thanks......1 no
CBI is not a statutory body while mr. Satya said it is statutory body. RSTV kindly ensures wrong info. are not shared to the people. If someone did the same u can later clarified it. Do the same
बेस्ट वर्क ऑफ सुप्रीम कोर्ट
Seperation of power का प्रयोग हो super बात है
परंतु जब
देश के लोकतांत्रिक व्यवस्था संचलाको कि
योग्यता etc के बारे में संविधान मौन हो
सरकार दलगत राजनीति करे तो
अवश्यक नहीं अनिवार्य है लोक तंत्र की सेक्योरिटी SC करे
Thnx sir
Qureshi ne... collegium system me sudhar lakar CEC k appointment ki baat kahi hai jo ki baki dono ne nahi dhyan diya... or mae baki dono ki reason se sehmat nhi hu jo aj tak kharab nahi hui iska mtlab ye nahi ki kal b shi chalegi.... agar ek vyavastha hogi to isme galat kuch nahi hai.. halanki ye appointment me deri ya fir appoint na hone jaisi istithi paida ho skti hai agar chedchad kiya to
please one debat on CBI vCBI s y kureshi more better than other
S.Y.Quershi sir is best... Straight forwardly government ki band baja dete han.... India need more personality like you sir....
Thank you rajya sabha tv for amazing debate....
I do agree with you my friend.
जैसा कि कुरैशी सर ने बोला बिली की गर्दन में गंटी बांधे कोन ,,, आज तक नेताओं के अपराधीकरण पर कोई भी पार्टी कानून बनाने को तैयार नहीं ह चाहे सताधारी हो या विपक्षी पार्टी जो b ho supreme court हमेशा जनहित का फैसला देगा उसे राजनीतिक फायदा नहीं चाहिए जो पार्टियों के लिए जरूरी ह
rashmi mohan kya right hai .Kuch BHI kantap ....
@@General_darkshade 😅😅 , jab debate samaj na aaye ho , yeh hi jab hota hai .😅
Please rstv ,extend this discussion for one more hour .
no
I think appointment procedure of Cec should be like cvc and cbi director after lokpal act 2013
Somehow I Agree with former chief election commissioner. Problem is legislature is not doing its duty
Thanks for valuable debate.....rstv
Awesome debetes
Quraishi sir is more logical........👍👍
सब चोर है
S.Y Quraishi supporters hit like.
Thanks rstv, 25/10 /2018
Despite of collegium we should form an appointment committee constitutes of judiciary and executive both
As you can not blind trust on any of govt. Agency either it is executive legislature or judiciary ..
Qureshi's concern are debatable bcoz don't forget the very democracy of the nation is at stake .
राजनीतिक सत्ताधारी दल हमारा ही प्रतिनिधित्व करते यदि वह गलत तो हम भी गलत
Cec must be appointed by exam of senior ias officers.so that he work without of anybodys obligation.appointment of retiered must be stoped.
It is right time for strict power sc for interference in legislative ......only power give sc for give some advice not mandatory for parliament
Billi k Galle mein ghanti bandhega Kaun 😂
चुनाव आयुक्तों की नियुक्ति एक संवैधानिक प्रक्रिया है जो संवैधानिक तरीके से हो तो बेहतर है अगर कॉलेजियम प्रणाली से चुनाव आयुक्तों के नियुक्ति होती है तो इसमें बहुत सी गतिरोध और विसंगतियां देखने को मिल सकती है जैसा कि उच्च न्यायालयों और सर्वोच्च न्यायालय में देखने को मिलता रहा है अगर निर्वाचन आयोग में कॉलेजियम प्रणाली लाई जाती है तो इसके जद में UPSC और CAG जैसे संवैधानिक निकाय भी में आएंगे और यह एक तरह से संवैधानिक उपबंध व्यवस्था को समाप्त करने जैसा होगा उम्मीद है कि माननीय सर्वोच्च न्यायालय द्वारा अनुच्छेद 142 का बेजा इस्तेमाल ना हो और संवैधानिक प्रक्रिया में संसद द्वारा कानून बनाकर ही संवैधानिक व्यवस्था को दुरुस्त रखा जाए ।
कार्यक्रम के लिए राज्य सभा टीवी का धन्यवाद
संतोष पाराशर
मध्य प्रदेश।
are bhai chief ko neukt krne me savi organ ke sujhaw or opposition ke leader ke sujhaw se hona chahye pr esse savi organ independently thik se kaam karega or nispakch kaam karega less possibility hoga ektarfa kaam krne ka.
ok now the gist of the debate is every one agreed on the reforms sector
Mr ECI wanted through SC
while otehr two wanted it through Parliament's rule or law
meaning change if possible as It is concerned with the Elections of India
Am highly agree with Quraishi sir. No one is perfect and nothing is perfect then why we always praise our constitution as a perfect. Things must change with time though it may constitution. If not then why 121 amendments required and that also 1 amendment it self brought by Nehru ji who was part of constitution assembly.
At the same time Apex court must restrict herself. I am afraid of that tomorrow Apex court might declare S-400 unconstitutional because it violate article 51 though it's DPSP.
Solution:- Make people of this great country powerful, aware of rights and then we will see automatic reduction in cases as people will chose integration rather domination, people will play with democracy (In good sense) rather parliament and judiciary.
Let me know your stake on this.
Satya jee ka tark sahi nhi he..
Supreme court constitution ka rakhwala he . Uske nirnay jo bhi hote hne according to constitution hota he .
एस वाई कुरैशी सर, सही बात कर रहे हैं क्योकि वो तो सिस्टम मे ही थे और जानते हैं की कैसे राजनैतिक दबाव बनाए जाते हैं। बाकी ये तो दोनो बैठ के दलाली कर रहे हैं ,कुछ पता नही है तब भी की सिस्टम के अन्दर क्या समस्या है । ये तो कुरैशी सर ही जानते हैं ।
लोकतंत्र एवं राजनीतिक शुचिता बनाये रखने के लिए स्वतंत्र एवं निष्पक्ष चुनाव कराया जाना आवश्यक है। इस हेतु निर्वाचन आयोग को सशक्त बनाया जाना आवश्यक है, जिसके लिए निर्वाचन आयुक्तों की नियुक्ति प्रक्रिया को निष्पक्ष एवं पारदर्शी किया जाना चाहिए।
Why is Rajya Sabha not even discussing the Modi government's move of supporting Rakesh Asthana and therefore corruption itself and illegally sending the CBI chief on leave and transferring every CBI officer probing Asthana and appointing a well known corrupted officer Nageshwar Rao in CBI chief's place. Is Rajya Sabha Tv restricted by this government from even discussing this issue?
this kind of discussion what we are looking for ....................
it's fantastic from both side ,.................thank you so much rajyasabha tv ........and pls extend its minimum 29 min
कोलेजियम यानी भाई भतीजावाद को बढ़ावा देना है । यहाँ हमे शक्ति संतुलन बनाते हुए लोकतांत्रिक व्यवस्था कायम रखने की आवश्यकता है ,कुलीनतंत्र को बढ़ावा देने की बजाय।
इस बेहद संजीदा विषय पर रचनात्मक चर्चा के लिए RSTV का धन्यवाद.
निश्चित रूप से अपने कई निर्णयों में सर्वोच्य न्यायालय ने संविधान के व्याख्या के बजाय उसे पुनः लिखने का काम किया है और कई बार विधायिका एवं कार्यपालिका का कार्य को अपने हांथो में लिया है. जिसकी वजह इन दो अन्य स्तम्भों की देर करने की आदत हो सकती है. फिर भी सर्वोच्य न्यायालय को जरुरत भर दखल देने का प्रयास करना चाहिए. संविधान के अनुच्छेद 324(2) संसद को निर्वाचन आयुक्तों की नियुक्ति के लिए विधि बनाने का प्रावधान करता है. अतः इस बार एक मौका संसद को दिया जाना चाहिए. अगर संसद इस पर नियम नहीं बनती है तो सर्वोच्य न्यायालय को नियुक्ति का अन्य प्रावधान करना चाहिए.
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मगर जैसा कि कुरैशी सर ने बोला बिली की गर्दन में गंटी बांधे कोन ,,, आज तक नेताओं के अपराधीकरण पर कोई भी पार्टी कानून बनाने को तैयार नहीं ह चाहे सताधारी हो या विपक्षी पार्टी जो b ho supreme court हमेशा जनहित का फैसला देगा उसे राजनीतिक फायदा नहीं चाहिए जो पार्टियों के लिए जरूरी ह
@@satishjakhar5450 but an administrative person is always against a political leader.
like qureshi sir
supreme court ko kabhi bhi apne dayare se bahar nhi jaana chahiye. Jahan tal equal protection to all election commissioners ki baat hai, supreme court can interpret and give orders to government in this regard to bring a law. But chayan prakriya me chhedchhad karna supreme court ke karyaseema ke baahar hai aur agar wo ise change karne ki kosis karta hai to this would be against the ethos of the constitution, it would be like protector of the constitution violating the same.
@@santoshparashar9980 but now he is no longer an administrator he is retired
Same system should prevail with a simple amendment to 1991 act to provide for removal process for ECs similar to that of CEC, election commission as an institution has became so strong in last 70 yrs owing fortunately to the brilliant appointees who were men of courage and integrity that i think future appointees will find it very hard to divert from conventions.
Thanku so much sir ....Bahut hi shaandaar debate,aaj ki debate me sabhi penelist ek se badhkar ek the ,but sabhi ache the and sabhi k decision vichar karne layak hain...... Quraishi sir aur satya sir k sath debate bhut hi interesting ho jati hai....
this time I think not fruitfully discussion but impressive
Aap upse ki preparation krti h kya ?
Good
i am not spport colism system it no trnsparent and we talk about make law for change in coalism for cji do again in ec is good work do criminals make law for ec if parliyament make law fabour in own so give guide line by sc change in systeme no re write consititution and thanks for rajsabha tv invite a panlist talk negetive point and bad effect of any news chane
Sir apka ye episode bahut aaccha he aur apki debat se students ko bahut labh milta he
सर्वोच्च न्यायालय अपनी सीमाओं को लांघकर संविधान की धज्जियां उड़ा रहा है और मज़े की बात ये है कि अपने को रक्षक बता रहा है बाकी को भक्षक बता रहा है।
चुनाव आयोग एक संवैधानिक निकाय है। तीन अंगों के संकलन कार्यों को परिभाषित किया जाता है। अगर अन्य संवैधानिक निकाय में कॉलेज प्रणाली को लाया जाता है तो उसे भी स्वीकार करना होगा। चुनाव चुनाव आयुक्त राष्ट्रपति की दया नहीं है.अब चुनाव आयोग में सभी 3 कमिश्नर हैं उनमें से बराबर वेतन और भत्ते हैं लेकिन उन्हें संस्थागत निकाय के रूप में माना जाना चाहिए। कोई संवैधानिक साहसवाद नहीं होना चाहिए जो राजनीतिक रूप से प्रेरित है क्योंकि यह कमीशन निकाय की छवि और आखिरकार हमारे संविधान की छवि को भी कम करता है|
सर सीबीआई के मसले पर एक प्रोग्राम कीजिये न देश देशानंतर में
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Agar CBI par program kiya to raid hojayegi
it is not the cat but hte buffalo
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Sb bakwaas china jainsi rule he best hai
If Executives are not interested in doing anything good and relevant which is constitutionally required in this country.
If executives are not able to perform then definitely judiciary would have to intervene from pollution to water and right to decent life that is article 21 so where executives are fair? Then what to say about constitutional body's reform by Parliament? Constitutional adventurism may not be good but non transparent and lethargic performance of executives is unacceptable. We have seen recently why press conference was postponed for 5 state's election by election commission and why Gujrat elections were postponed? Why only Gujrat cadre IAS OP Rawat is efficient for CEC post? These are serious questions as they are coming in these posts politically.
So SC will take care as a judiciary and guardian of constitution wherever there is requirement of it to intervene?
At least one pillar of democracy should work in a decent and efficient manner.
Everytime people keep talking about the inefficiency of the executive and legislature, but they never talk about the lacunas of the judicial system. The Indian judiciary is one of the most inefficient organ of the state, it would be much better if it cleans itself first... If all the cases pending in the judiciary are disposed off it will boost country's GDP at least by 1.5 - 2%, and people would have much more faith in the system. Judiciary is equally corrupt and highly unaccountable, actually the most unaccountable part of the government.
The priority of judiciary is also hugely misplaced, while it normally never gives priority to matters of national importance, it keeps itself occupied in trivial matters specially the supreme court. Which harms the nation immensely. Never heard, that it gave verdicts on a matter of national importance in time.
sirf religion me adventurism galat hai banki baad duniya ke savi kaam me adventurism modern manav banane ka ek bunyadi tarika hai.. so adventurism hona chahye sirf religion me nhi ho..
here Mr satya is not clear as if some thing is wrong in some part of the COI then we need amendment so why not change that part if there may some chances of its misuse
Bro there is no system that is perfect, at least the current system is performing far better than collegium system and as far as political blame game is concerned it happens with supreme court also and in case of supreme court it was much worse and even now it is.
And can you please tell me what exactly is it that is wrong with ECI??
Yes the point that all election commissioners should have equal protection that's good, but supreme court has no business changing the method of appointment of commissioners. SC must stay within it's constitutional limits.
Thank you sir and RSTV
ECI ki niyukti mai satya sir sahi keh rahe hai....ki constitutional body Jo ek effectively work kar rahi hai use disturb nahi karna chahie..ye constitution destroy jesi nobat LA sakti hai,
but Qureshi sir ka point is also right ki democracy ki neev hai election commission ..to usme yeh appointment power Change hone chahiye.
so iss pr court ki guidelines ke anusar protective law banakar hamari democracy ko healthy rakha ja sakta hai...
I m not agree with satya sir because according to him/ constirution law making process is supreme authority,but in 70 yr why parliment / executive cant law for appointment of ECI. So PIL must goes to supreme court & already constitution has leave cheks & balance. In recent time there r various issue goes up to media & editorial like EVM , NOTA ,CASH FOR VOTE ,CONDEMN POWER FOR CEC so on . Malhotra sir is still in favor of govt ,so he cant speak with impartialty
Well same can be said about quraisi that he cannot be partial.
Plus supreme court itself so corrupt and inefficient, does that men that executive and legislature should put pressure on judiciary that give this verdict withing a time frame? Well the custodian of the constitution has bent the constitution many time, its like the protector turning into tormentor.
Here might be some differ model of collegium
Thank you sir and RSTV
ECI ki niyukti mai satya sir sahi keh rahe hai....ki constitutional body Jo ek effectively work kar rahi hai use disturb nahi karna chahie..ye constitution destroy jesi nobat LA sakti hai,
but Qureshi sir ka point is also right ki democracy ki neev hai election commission ..to usme yeh appointment power Change hone chahiye.
so iss pr court ki guidelines ke anusar protective law banakar hamari democracy ko healthy rakha ja sakta hai...
U are Correct