Kyle Busch Says Daytona 500 Fuel Saving Was "Disgraceful" Racing
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- Опубліковано 23 лют 2024
- Kyle Busch met with reporters at Atlanta and called the Daytona 500 fuel saving strategy "disgraceful."
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I miss those days when drivers would fight for those positions. Like he said it’s becoming more riding than racing.
get rid of the stages. Dumbest thing ever added to NASCAR.
More horsepower! Make it scary.
I want to see racing. No one wants to see tragedy. But let them go. They know the risk they are professionals.
@@CoopCooper. I’m not looking for tragedy either but the sport was more exciting when we had drivers like Dale and Ernie Irvan.
I do think the stage breaks are problematic. I think maybe stage points without the yellow flags would solve a lot of that problem.
But the fuel saving or running half throttle at Daytona, Atlanta, and Talladega isn't due to stage breaks, it's due to the restrictor plate used at those tracks bunching up all the cars. People drive more conservatively in the first 80% or 90% of the race because they know there's a 98.43% chance that there will be a wreck, and that that wreck will collect at least 30% of the field. So there's no logical reason to race hard in the first 80% of a 400/500 mile race unless you're extremely (like 96.88% sure) that you'll consistently be in the top 5 because hard racing outside the top 5 just increases the chance you'll be in that big wreck, and that chance is already fairly high.
If NASCAR wants to eliminate that problem, then they need to lower the horsepower at those tracks and ditch the restrictior plate so that racing there better emulates the more spread out racing at other tracks.
Nascar has been a joke since they started stage racing.
whats stage racing?
I assume he is saying that nascar is staged, as in the races are fixed so that he means *staged races= fixed races @natemorga
2 competition cautions every race to bunch up the field and generally cause chaos.@@natemorga
It all started when they cared about having a "global" audience. Now they care about some made up Ethiopian fan thats worried about climate change and goes wild over them saving fuel to save his elephant.
stage 1 is after 60 sum laaps awarding drivers points from 1st-10 to 10th-1 theres 3 stages every race , not that its staged
@@hardrockerguy4048
I miss Winston Cup NASCAR
Well it died when the govt stepped in and banned tobacco companies from sponsoring pro sports. Cry harder
@@LeftyGretzky he's saying he misses the racing during that era. cRy HarDeR stfu lol
@@LeftyGretzkyWorst comment on the video. Congrats but you should just delete it
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I can't even watch NASCAR anymore. Boring!
Another example of why Stage racing sucks.
I stopped watching NASCAR as soon as stage racing was initiated
@@stevenplace6514I lasted a couple years longer. I was a merch buyer.
I would like to see a season play out with stage points but no stage cautions. Let people play strategy out to get those extra points, but stop creating unneeded cautions. All they seem to do is add more wrecks and create these backwards strategies from the finish of each stage.
@@breadmanwalking reasonable, I will be honest I miss 80's and 90's drivers and cars. Just think, said drivers with today's coverage tech.
Has nothing to do with stages. The used to ride along in a line before stages. Guys don’t want to wreck there stuff. Oddly enough I think most people thought it was fun to watch.
Get rid of stage racing and bring back the Latford point system.
Running rental cars would've been more exciting and showcase driver talent way more then what we got
No more Stage Breaks for Speedway tracks! Fixed!
All tracks
Give bonus points for leading a lap and triple or quadruple those points for leading the most. Do away with the playoffs
It’s crazy what time and maturity can do to a driver. Kid Kyle at Hendrick doesn’t compare to elder statesman Kyle at RCR. I like seeing him speak up respectfully and be a leader.
Too bad he didnt learn when Kurt made his transition. I'm super proud of both of them, but it took a while!
That also has A LOT to do with the Owner! Childress won't deal with stupidity or bad decisions like Gibbs did. Earnhardt did something stupid he made sure he knew it. Course Dale would always be Dale but he spoke truth not complaining or crying about things. I've noticed since Kyle signed with RCR he's changed A LOT. No more crying or bitching about things every week. The attitude after races or crashes has changed and I've seen this man smile and laugh more sine joining RCR then I have his entire career. And he just answers questions, nothing more and speaks the truth. Sound familiar? I was NEVER a fan of him but since he's joined RCR he's kinda growing on me since he seems to be a new Kyle, which is great cause he seems to be having more fun then he ever did with Gibbs!
I came on the comments to say the exact same thing and second comment in what do I see? 😁
Great job Kyle and good luck this year. 👍
To be fair he also was and never has been as bad as Kurt was to deal with. Nobody ever has been. But he made an amazing transition. Kyle at his worst was a peach compared to Kurt at his worst @tnwhiskey68
@@casperkellygaming4190 Some. Some of this is the owner. But Kyle was moving this direction his last couple years at JGR. It is mostly with maturing. Once you hit your 30's you realize you dont know everything. It happened to you, it happened to me, it is just life.
Bring back 5 points for leading a green lap 😊
I like that maybe for just the super apeedways
Yes but only if lap is led under green
I been saying this same thing, give 5 pts for leading 1 lap, 5more for leading the most laps and then 5 pts for leading a random lap which will be announced at the end of each race that way you keep all teams on their toes.
Bring back the old points system.
It’s not racing.
Fuel has ALWAYS been an important factor in NASCAR. You're just new here.
Woke Racing
@@iancoachwerksllc lol everything is "woke" now for you guys
@@SooHooSamaSito Obviously but not like this or the drivers themselves wouldn't be saying this, lmao
@@hhaste I'm not concerned with what the premadonnas say. I'm talking about when racing was actually racing.
Wow.. I remember a day when you never would have heard.. “We ran our Atlanta car at Daytona”. I know teams are saving money, but I miss the days when a car was built for a specific track and there was such a thing as qualifying trim with a qualifying engine. Maybe I just associate those days with the drivers I enjoyed watching in that era, but everything just seemed better back then and the only strategies were on pit road and to win the race at all cost.
I remember those days and loved them, especially the drivers. But Atlanta was banked and rebuilt to make it a super speedway so it makes sense they use their Daytona car. But they need to do something for sure.
He did crash his primary car that was more “dialed in” for Daytona. He said his secondary car wasn’t quite as good and that’s the one they’re taking to Atlanta. But you’re right, NASCAR’s best days are behind them.
Hell, I miss stock body panels! Aero racing does nothing for me. I mean aero was always a factor but not THE factor!
And that’s why I stick to f1
It’s funny how Kyle and Denny basically said the same thing. Bubba said on DBC there were laps where he was running 40% throttle. 🤦♂️
Thanks Kyle!! I appreciate you telling the truth throughout NASCAR when no one else will.
Hard to believe how badly NASCAR is these days. Been watching some of the races from the 80s, 90s, and early 2000's... so much better than what we get now, especially the early 90s.
Is Dale up there...
Shaking his head?
@@raymondstrehl3679Probably... he sure as heck wouldn't call what we have now racing, I'd imagine.
It's what happens when politicians take over an event.
So 3 cars finishing on the lead lap every week is real racing? I bet if that happened now ya'll would complain just the same.
Even the superspeedway racing with the restrictior plates back then was way better than now
I'm also appreciating KB's perspective these days. He might be moving into a mature role that can yield some improvement in the A series.
So glad he's speaking up. Harvick was one to do that, now he's retired looks like Busch will continue it.
Nascar needs to scrap everything they’ve done with their points system. Ditch the stage racing and return to the simple system they ran forever. It encouraged competition.
When every position matters, when every lap on the track matters. Teams have a reason to fix their broken cars and get them back on the racetrack. These days they take the car back to the garage the second anything breaks.
I fondly remember watching Mark Martin’s team piece back together his ride years ago so he could get back on the track and finish the race. That kind of racing doesn’t really happen anymore.
Been a while since I followed Nascar proper but I wanted to show some of the Daytona footage to my wife, since I got her into F1 I figured why not. When I looked up some clips of the race and saw this stage business I was like "huh?"
No race should be finished under a caution that’s another huge issue and fans complain, you spend all that money to see a car finish under caution crazy
I remember when I used to like NASCAR, been a while.
I bet he gets a call from NASCAR big shots after this. Calling that race a shit show was exactly what it was.
I have trouble believing I am watching Kyle Busch lately. Changed man. He has picked up a fan here.
NASCAR and charter teams have fucked this sport. Just look at the stands at every race. I went to the fall Cup race at Martinsville, worst race I've ever been to! And I've been going to Martinsville speedway since 1970!
Woke has also fucked the sport. It seems like it's getting more "Hip Hop" every year, if you know what I mean.
@@BadWolf762😂😂
@@BadWolf762 The dog whistles on youtube are insane...
Kyle is my driver, he still has the passion to win races and is the closest thing to Dale Sr. on the track that we have nowadays..
He should honestly be in the 3 car instead of the 8..
Nobody should be in the 3 car. The car number should have been retired.
@@buffhorses3632Same could also be said about King Richard’s #43
One point for leading a lap, 5 points for leading the most laps. Watch the fuel burn .LIKE THEY USED TO DO!!!! Nascar can't figure this out? Good grief.
KFB is the man!! Kyle knows what he's talking about and knows what racing is!!
Kyles going back too Toyota next year its a done deal!!!!!!!
@@woodduck614 you don't know what you're talking about
@@miki7899 how do you like kb now !! Since he going back to Toyota
Nit only Daytona was a fuel mileage race the Xfinity race at Atlanta turned into a fuel mileage race
@@woodduck614kyle buschs contract runs through 2026 please stop spreading BS he couldnt leave even if he wanted to
Rowdy will tell it like it is! Fans want to see speed at Daytona
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nascar needs to make racing great again!!! cars were faster in the 60s and 70s than they are now.
I would rsther not have people dying every time they crash at daytona
Thats the risk of extreme sports@cohengamertv6548
@@cohengamertv6548 They could just stop doing the painfully boring ovals.
When Dale died so did the sport
What about Adam, Davey,Kenny, Dan? Dale was great but Jr and Jeff Gordon carried nascar well after dales passing. And there are more names than just those 2 I know but those stick out a lot
Exactly. My cousin Earnhardt was the nail in the coffin. Rest in peace Alan Kulwicki. Rest in peace Davey Allison.
Who here would have ever even considered that Kyle Busch would become one of the more reasonable, mature, professional, and wise drivers in the field? NOT ME, but he has become a great spokesman for the drivers and the sport. Samantha, becoming a Father, owning a business, getting away from JGR, getting injured at Daytona, and teaming with Richard have really tranformed him, (thank you to Samantha, Brexton, and Lennix)
Best Kyle interview I've ever heard.
Why do they have 500 mike races when you wait to the last 50 and wreck the field?
Sponsorship money
Never thought in my adult life I would start to become a Kyle Busch fan. I’m glad he’s speaking up on behalf of the sport and the fans. Good on him!
For Daytona, there is a fix for this, make the cars so they have to handle, get them to where setups matter and tires wear. That coupled with some fuel tweeks we might, might, get back to some exciting (no crash perspective) racing, passing, comers, goers...etc.
I watched the entire Daytona 500. this year. The first full Nascar race since Homestead in 2016. I will never refer to a Formula 1 race as a parade again. The "Racing" was the same as I always remembered. 490 miles of posturing and placement and then everyone tries to win it in the last 10. It wasn't a terrible race, it certainly wasn't a great race. If Nascar would get rid of stage(d) racing I might watch a few more.
Check back in few years. Bye 👋🏻
So it could have been a 15 lap race. Why even drag it out for 500 miles.
Iv watched races for 60 years, iv watched them play follow the leader until it was time to go that was 10 laps now with stage racing lot of you dont understand it's intent keep everyone everyone on the same level cost effective,wonder how many people would leave Atlanta ans bored to death watching them go round & round in a single file,love the stage racing only makes for better racing,NASCAR will figure the gas out they always do,it's much more exciting than the 60's,70's 80's were everyone standing up evety lap lead changes,folks iv seen it from both sides cannot beat stage racing.thats why my son grandkids go back to Charlotte,Darlington and such.more exciting for sure ask the fans after Daytona they ll tell you
@@jerrybarnes3104 yeah lol that would get lots of people to show up
@@thomasalford9349stage racing is trash. You either win or lose. Losers don't get a restart just because. I'd rather see a guy out 3 laps than have caution to bring the field together for a participation trophy.
Thank you GoodSir you give us some great stuff on this channel! Much appreciated!!
Fuel mileage is a part of race strategy at times. The disgrace is the segment racing or throwing yellows to group the field. Let the teams run their strategy and the chips fall where they may.
I see no reason to watch more than the last 20 laps as NASCAR is run today or really the past 25 years. I watched the entire race when someone could win by a lap (on the non plate races).
Well said!
Kyle is my favorite. I also like Chastain.
I was there and it pissed me off. But had no lines in food court and pisser.😅
Amen it was my first time ever going and I waited through the rain for that crap
Sorry to hear you paid to see the traveling circus. I haven't set foot in Charlotte in over 10 years. This was after going 3 times a year in 80s,90s 2ks.
I won't piss away another dime on them, even on days when I think I would introduce my kids to what I grew with. I remember how it's not the same and it's a shame NASCAR drove away it's loyalist fans
I again tried to watch the truck and Xfinity race today. But it was worse than Daytona, with their engines choking for air, in a mile and a half of all things. Single file trains.
Xfinity cars would put on a show there. And they screwed that up too, because they are scared they will outrun the trash cup car.
@@NeedsLessWedgeBut you'll watch every race on TV and generate even more revenue for Nascar. They don't care if you come to race or not.
@@onemorething100 nah, instead I just give the 💰 to herm and junior by tuning into their UA-cam channels.
Bezos already gets prime 💰
However I am watching Bahrain GP now, and NBC+FOX crews could learn a thing or two about announcing a race from these F1 guys. Literacy is a good thing . 😂
Great idea use rental cars for racing so we can find out which auto maker makes the best car. Because we know they won't make it a full 500 mile race we'll shorten them to 300 miles to shorten up race time. Maybe tickes will be affordable and a whole lot more enjoyable to watch as well.
“Plate” track racing has been a disgrace for 15 plus years now
People have to stop watching sporting events live. Do you know that DVR records it and you can fast forward through all the commercials and non-sense so you don't have to sit through the boring parts. I do it. I'll wait until the event is done and spend 45 minutes of my day watching it, instead of wasting 6 hours of my time.
Sure Is!!! Always valued Kyle for his honesty. I don't watch anymore because of exactly what he is speaking about! Sadly!
Well said Kyle! Denny said the same, ludicrously slow and it wasn't racing for huge chunks of the race.
An awful race, poor finish, pointless stages.
Compulsory stops of 3.5sec or 6sec for fuel stops the fuel shenanigans. We cannot have cruising around at 25% throttle for 85% of race, poor show and makes it more dangerous and more big one's when its a 15lap stage shoot out and a 40 lap finish after cruising round stuck in a line.
Nascar racing has morphed to keeping as many cars on the lead lap as possible. What kyle said about just riding in place speaks to that. Many years ago competitive cars were put a lap down under racing. For whatever reason. Today, drivers have little fear of being lapped so long as they are still competitive (barring a flat tire etc).
Indy 500 230 mph and plenty of passing....I will keep driving from Charlotte to see that race every year.
Well, I have been recording Nascar races for several years now.. Then I just watch it later and FF thru most of the race.. I'll watch for a bit going thru the recording, but for the most part, FF to the last 20 laps or so and watch the crash fest when it gets down to a lap or 2 to go.. I'm an old dude who watched Nascar as a kid back since the 70's so kinda spoiled in a way...
He’s the perfect driver for RCR. They both are on the same page(racer’s mentality).
NASCAR has struggled to find idenity since Bill and Bill Jr. France France passed it on to the jokers that run it now.Everyone wears suits,not jeans and t shirts,factory built car,laser inspection,car of tomorrow,no real imagination left with these cars,it is a business I understand.But when you take a well oiled sport and change it ,then you have a mess and now they'vespent 20 years trying to make it more than it is.Let the teams build the racecar,let the teams do their thing,come to the track,and race,don't need country singers,don't need anything but racing.Not to mention these charters,everyone, has to be a multimillionaire,impossible to build a racecar and go NASCAR racing for the regular joe,stage racing,g.w.c.Hate to be debby downer but damn,look at what it was and now what it is.
NASCAR drove me away from the sport in the mid 2000s with all the changes and getting away from real racing and focusing on "The Product".
Well said
@@BadWolf762 I'M real close to not watching it anymore,it's a joke,like Kyle sai d it is embarassing.Local short track racing is still man and machine,dirty fingernails and being creative
@@charliesmith7942 Thanks Charlie.
@markwitkowski6418 ya I understand exactly where your coming from. I started watching in 1992, never missed a race.
I understand the drivers and teams change as time goes on, buy when they change all the core rules, race formats, points system and everything else it just isn't relatable to anything in the past.
All the stick and ball sports have remained the same with the exception of minor rules and equipment changes over the years.
What nascar has done would be like baseball changing the number of outs to end an inning. Going to aluminum bats, changing the distance between the bases, changing the size of ball , etc etc.
Also somehow social media has corrupted the drivers and fan base to where everyone is extremely negative towards each other these days
I picked up on this when the cars who lost the draft were running identical if not faster lap times🤔🙊
Interesting
Hey Kenny, you the man, love your videos!!
Good info
I no longer follow nascar the way i used to. Now i MIGHT watch the beginning and end of the cup race. Before segment racing i would watch the entire truck,xfinity and cup races
The best superspeedway race I can remember in recent history was the rain shortened (new)Atlanta one last year. There were crazy moves left and right lap after lap...sure was action packed when driving under the threat of rain. The obvious solution is to invent and place rain making machines around the track vicinity and start them up at some point after they get 50% of the race in. There's your 2025 gimmick, NASCAR. Also, love your channel, keep it up!
I never thought I would ever agree with Kyle Bush
Gordon, Busch, Johnson, Stewart, jr, Waltrip, Kenseth and so on
I miss those days
I guess this is still racing but it’s not what the fans want to see at all😕
Matt Kenseth won the last real trophy
I gotta agree with Kyle, do you think the Intimidator would have raced half throttle Hell No. It's not racing. I hope you don't start racin half throttle Kenny.😂
Stomp on the pedal🏁🇺🇸🏁👍
Kyle Busch one of the legends of the sport is speaking truth it is completely disgraceful. No one wants to pay money to go and watch everybody slow down. We want to see fast loud. Awesome passes and to be able to talk about the show.
They stunk up the show for the first half.
NASCAR is better than that
Stage racing is horrible
Kyle is a great driver and a great champion! He would be great in NHRA.......Ijs!
Totally with Kyle on this
I agree with Kyle, Daytona was boring, no one was doing anything in the beginning.
While I agree with Kyles sentiment I also know as he does that the goal is to be the first one to the finish line, not to go as fast as possible the entire race and come in 23rd.
Funny how every driver complains about it, but they all did it. If a group would have went for it and left the others behind, things may have played out in their favor. Also I think stage cautions need to go away everywhere, not just on speedways. Known cautions create strategies like this. What happened to the good ol days when your teammate would just spin on purpose or you would throw roll bar padding out the window when you needed a caution.
Never liked restrictor plate racing. Short tracks are where it’s at. 👍
Kyle has been my driver for years. This interview was great, he’s to the point, no punches pulled.
We were in Daytona for the July 4th 400 mile in 1993 and they were turning 45 sec laps!
Restrictor Plate Racing suxx too. Almost every other form of racing has engine rules, but allows teams / racers to make as much power as possible within those rules. Having more power than you can safely put to the ground separates the highly skilled drivers from the coattail riders just hanging around, hoping to avoid wrecks and counting on the happenstance of catching the right breaks and being in the right place at the right time.
"I felt bad for the fans"............did he mean, "I felt bad for the fan"?
If NASCAR doesn’t get rid of restricter plate racing the super speedways will go away!!
I like this Kyle Bush way better
AJ Allmendinger was running faster laps by himself than the entire pack.
Thank you Kyle, exactly! The 500 was a PARADE, not a race! I tuned out early on because it's BORING. Needs to be more decision making with different parts, not making everything almost identical like axle ratios etc. It's too robotic. Racing freight trains is not racing.
Kyle is so freaking right its got boring. The finishs were great but getting to that point is boring. I've switched more to truck racing bc it's more fun to go see and watch.
I'm glad he's got the balls to tell them how it is.. that it's lame now..
Facts! That was BS, racing is supposed to be who’s the fastest, NASCAR WILL NEVER be what it was. NASCAR used to give points for leading laps and the most laps, they need to go back to that and then maybe offer an additional 5 points for whoever leads a random lap that is drawn every week. Start motivating the drivers with points again.
What a crying shame!!😢
Nascar stopped being nascar decades ago...I grew up wathing it. It was a big part of my life since my Dad was a dirt track racer here in Texas. I havent even watched a race in the last 15 years (at least). I miss the old days of Nascar back in the 80's and 90's...
I used to really dislike this dude but that's changed over the years for sure.
This is what racing has come to? If so it needs to not be called racing. It was a disgrace. Nascar will have to address this or the viewing audience will surely go somewhere else for entertainment.
Cuz half throttle isn't racing or entertaining.
It used to be kind of a joke with a little truth about NASCAR being all “go left, continue in oval fashion.” But now it really isn’t a little truth so much as what it is…just a big group of cars following each other around in a circle going left.
Explain to me how a charter costs 40 million but they can't afford to have qualifying engines like before
They're not $40 mil.
@DavidClark-vu3dw your right as soon as the TV deal is done they will be 60 mil
@@jocalafarms4051 last time I heard it was $10 mil and I think I heard that from Dale Jr on his Download. And he said he couldn't justify that kinda of money to go racing cup.
@DavidClark-vu3dw listen to his latest with Ray. He said they are 40. Just looked it up at the 1:08:00 mark of the podcast jr said 40 mil
@@jocalafarms4051 That's Nutz!
I was in the grandstands and I didnt realize the speed differences. It seemed people were only saving a lot the first stage. I thought the rest of the race was pretty damn good tho I don’t think there were saving once stage 2 came around. He makes a good point tho.
No stages in super speedway’s.
Would fix this problem immediately. Easy fix
No pitting during stage cautions. Easy fix.
Slowing down race cars was meant to keep drivers safe, but actually has made it more dangerous, and boring for fans
NASCAR has been killing racing for over a decade. I quit spending money on their events when the races became a follow the leader drive
Excellent job Kyle!!!! Thanks so much. You are an asset to racing.
I say we go back to stock what you build on Monday you race on Sunday! Throw some stickers fuel cell and role cage in some mustangs, challengers, and Camaros and go racing! Give them all the same engine trans rear end and that way it’s on the driver and crew to who best sets the car up and has the luck on their side. Strip them out but make them use what we use! That and just let them go if they can build a car that’s safe and can go 230mph let them the track would be the limiting factor then for speed!
Watch some dirt racing!😜😆😆
NASCAR doesn't listen, or doesn't care.
So agree, who wants to watch a rental car race. NASCAR needs to go back 30 years. It’s BORING now.
Thanks Kyle for being honest riding aint racing hes right
They should make the plate racing tracks more forgiving point wise u can do every thing right an still not finish good pr finish at all an some of these drivers are wrecks waiting to happen
What if there were points for every lap of the race, rather than 3 stages. Every lap counts as well as finish position.
I'm so sick of the things I like being 💩 on by other people's bad ideas.
Top Guy, well said
He’s exactly right it was pathetic. I’ve been following this sport for 60 years never seen nothing like this.
Stopped watching Nascar in 2007 when Nascar introduced the car of "tomorrow". Saw where the sport was headed and stopped watching.
Add in the fact they dropped sponsorship of Bud and Winston,
One of the worst things are the cautions. A car spins,does not hit anything and drives away. They throw a caution flag and they run around for 6 or 7 laps every time. Why not have a quick caution if needed for 1 or 2 laps and back to green. Also why can the trucks and xfinity cars bounce off the wall and they don’t throw a caution but a cup car driver farts in the car and they throw a caution.
I’ve noticed this over the years… Superspeedway racing is my favorite type but now it’s boring to watch because these guys can’t even pass each other
Next gen racing has a lot of problems.