Why Do My Colleagues Earn More than Me For the Same Job? (Pay Gap Documentary) | Real Stories
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- Опубліковано 7 лют 2022
- Discussing salaries is one of the biggest taboos in the workplace. Everyone is curious about how much their workmates earn but would never dare to ask. Despite doing the exact same job, colleagues are more than likely to receive an entirely different pay amount each month.
Inspired by a real pay experiment from the 1950's, Show Me Your Money is a remarkable TV experiment where one of Britain's top bosses takes it upon himself to break the rules and encourage a more honest and open working environment.
A routine team meeting takes everyone by surprise when Charlie Mullins, Managing Director of Pimlico Plumbers asks his whole workforce to reveal exactly how much they are paid. One by one, they must reveal their salary and pin it on the notice board for their workmates to see. Immediately this opens a Pandora's Box of emotional responses from anger and shock to guilt and resentment.
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The owner should pay it. He is the one making the most in profit.
Love how the owner refuses to take a pay cut, but expects some of his employees to take a pay cut.
Time to change jobs
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@@joyaustin6581 shut up
The owner has already put in millions to the company and takes all the risk he forced his workers to look into how money can be saved and made different departments work together. Looks like a good boss to me
I'm genuinely shocked by the sheer arrogance of the (former) owner. Whilst he's certainly entitled to profit off of his company's success, it is absurd to think that your employees should fix your pay structure when you're taking home a £1m *salary*. It's poor management. Employees are the backbone of any company, and largely responsible for that success.
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I don’t know how to interpret your *salary* remark but I don’t believe for a second that his compensation was only 1m.
@@HandleHandled that’s only his salary, which is actually taken out of his yearly profits which he also keeps. He could have made his salary 800k per year and fixed the problem right there. It is madness to think anyone else is going to take a pay cut to give to someone someone else.
@@marcuslarwa9098 100% I agree I was just saying it was hard to believe his salary was only 1M but there is probably a lot of other compensation as well... what I was getting at was it didn't seem like he could afford everything I saw on only 1m. But then again I was assuming this was in London and his housing costs were expensive.
@@HandleHandled I don’t know how it works in the UK but over here there’s a lot of cash in construction business so I’m sure he’s doing very well for himself and could have easily taken the hit on his salary alone. If he took 800k instead of 1m he could have given everyone a raise that asked for one. I’m guessing the only reason he even agreed to do the documentary is because he was probably already paying his people better then the rest of the market. He would have to be a complete moron to expose his employees salaries if he was under paying them.
This is crazy! The company should be working towards making a fair pay scale, not asking the employees to fix it!
Exactly. I hope you're well. Love, From Florida.
It's not really about the money tho, it's about valuing others
You clearly don't own a company. Clueless.
Why should workers have to fund one another whilst avaricious management refuses to take a cut? In fact, why should workers have to sort this at all?? This is shameful in the extreme.
This man owns a multimillion dollar home, drives to work in a Bentley, wears thousand dollar suits and humiliates his employees by asking them to expose their salary and then walks away as if he accomplished something. If you ask me, 90% of those employees are under paid and it all pays off for the CEO or whatever he refers to his position. Absolutely shameful.
None of those jobs would exist if he didnt build the company and put his capital at risk ya bafoon 🤣
Simple economics, educate yourself before spouting drivel.
I'm not on his side, but can you see any positive in what he did?
@@MrKh4Ot1k he sold the company in 2021, the only one who’s still there is his son with 10% ownership. So no..
@T R Ah, the mindset of a Communist, the babbling of an SJW.
@@speedingatheist communist? Lol slow your roll, nobody’s taking it that far. You can be in a capitalistic society and still pay your employees living wage.
The CEO really gives his employees crumbs & tells them to ration them out. Meanwhile he goes to his mansion & feasts. Damn.
Fair play to the mechanic team. They sat down and worked out a way that no one lost out and went to thwir boss with a plan. HR team were a joke, basically expecting everyone else to fix the problem they caused. Who do they think they are Tory MPs!?!
What about the boss? He is a millionaire, so by default it should be him who accepts a paycut.
I'm only 15 minutes into the video and I can feel the animosity in their work environment.
The one that drives in a Rolls Royce and lists his salary at 1 million was never even asked to take a pay cut. He should have tried working with Tina for the day.
If it wasn't for "the guy in the Rolls-Royce " there would be no jobs.
@@edwardarruda7215 so therefore he gets to exploit his workers?
@@wowzers6178 he isn't exploiting them. They have a choice to stay or go somewhere else. This isn't the 19th century. They aren't endentured slaves.
but he did take a pay cut? he matched all the other cuts.
It was a Bentley
What a total travesty! The disparity in salary is Charlie’s fault! I wouldn’t disclose my salary! Charlie would have to disclose that himself! He *IS* the problem here! You mean Charlie couldn’t take £2,000 out of his million pound salary and give it to Tina? What a nutcase! I’d try to find another job. I wouldn’t work for this joker! He is pathetic😡🇨🇦
His pay rates might be the best in the business and they don’t leave because they would make even less somewhere else. My guess is you wouldn’t do something like this if your competitors paid more because you risk losing good workers.
What a ridiculous idea to ask people to reduce their pay to make up for (perceived) shortcomings of other employees. If someone is underpaid relative to their market value it is up to the company to make up for it or risk losing them. Going back on the agreed salary of higher earning staff is just disgusting, though.
I wouldn’t support this company anymore. This is extremely poor management and a horrible scenario to put employees in. How is this even allowed by HR? The top guy in this company is a millionaire but can’t give up anything and wants the people that barely have a living to take pay cuts? Soooo out of touch and greedy. Company has higher operating costs but the owner doesn’t want to take a hit on his pay so he will cut others pay?
The way the group of guys came up with money by finding ways to cut unnecessary costs is how the owner should have went about it from the beginning, asking ur employees to take pay cuts to give to their coworkers should be the last option if even an option at all.
The assumption that everyone should get paid the same is ridiculous. What isn't talked about is does everyone titled with the same job actually performing equally? The guy complaining about no overtime... maybe he is a pain to work with and has quality control issues so they go to the more professional guy for overtime because he gets it done with minimal issues. This is a show, not a documentary.
Because they work harder, have more experience, or dared to ask more salary. That's all.
Women and minorities should be payed as much if not more regardless of the factors you stated, because they are oppressed
@@RajivGupta96 If you want to compete with the rest of the world: no, don't be stu pid.
How do you know?
@@RajivGupta96 no way, people want equal treatment, not special treatment!
I can't even believe what I just watched. A boss pitted his employees against each other like some sort of Hunger Games nonsense. Instead of paying them what they deserve, he psychologically bullied them into taking pay cuts in order to give others a living wage. He offered a measley amount himself. Having a customer service rep beg colleagues for a raise was utterly humiliating for her. And in end, off the boss trotted, with his plucked eyebrows, dyed hair l, botoxed face, mansion and Bentley - calling the entire experiment a roaring success. This entire scenario should be illegal. I cannot believe he could get away with this. I can't believe nobody stood up and said they weren't going to take this abuse. But they are desperate for jobs and this arrogant, manipulative boss knows it. What a thoroughly rotten person.
I think everyone is like this lmao. Good luck with team morale after...
Good one ye all really touched my heart this is the best documentary I've seen in so long poor tina what a difference that 2000 will make to her life she was the one I felt most sorry for .. great company great morale there, best way to have all happy workers, well done having courage to reveal your wages !! well done top of the mornin to ya from Irish Eileen 🤑🤑🤑🤑💚💚💚
The HR Manager and owner need to bang their heads together. Get a consistent payscale, job descriptions and stop asking employees to shift their salaries.
This guy is just adding to the consensus opinion that to be a big-time rich business owner you have to be a big-time A-hole! Wants something to change, as long as it's not his bank accounts! No way, no how!
I love at the end how it was his win. Narcissistic sociopath for sure.
Really enjoyed watching this
This came across less like an actual documentary and more like a partially scripted "reality " show. (It had an Undercover Boss vibe to it.) There's a reason that the policy was that the workers weren't allowed to discuss their earnings and it all has to do with keeping people in line and corporate greed. No CEO in their right mind would have reversed a policy that was clearly working to their benefit. In the real world, being told to work it out amongst themselves would've caused an angry outrage towards upper management and HR. They are the ones who determine the salaries and are accountable as such. Love this channel but not totally buying this story.
✨ Playing with peoples lives that way is genuinely classless. If he were my employee, I would allow him to hand in his notice, immediately upon my finding out. Pay the next guy less, dividing what was save leveling off each department. Never allowing it to happen again under a special iron clad charter mandate. The owner truly was the most, "Make it easier for me, let them suffer over finding the solution." self-centered arrogant creature. Who probably made money from the documentary as well.✨
He the owner could have said he would give a Christmas bonus. 200 grand. 1 for each employee. From his pay. It couldn't hurt him.
Absolutely bonkers how you can only earn 18 grand a year. Even if they are lowly educated, that's ridiculous.
What’s the minimum wage in the UK? Here were I live it’s 15$ an hour so that’s around 35k per year.
@@marcuslarwa9098 the absolute lowest you can legally earn is £4 an hour as an apprentice which could last for 3 years. The uk has no backbone. We need to standup to the millionaire owners in every company and get these bastards to shell out and pay people fairly. It’s a disgrace.
@@Jp-gw3tu I would agree with you if these kids growing up were actually decent workers but there aren’t. Nobody wants to work hard these days but want to complain about wages
This really surprises me that in England this can happen. In Australia every job has an award rate and by law an employer must pay the basic wage. They can of course pay more if they choose. Whether you are a plumber, working in a call centre, a dishwasher, shop assistant, a cleaner, hairdresser, whatever there is a basic wage that must be adhered to.
I'm Australian and had no idea about my country of origin. Thanks mum and dad for having the courage to immigrate
England has a minimum wage that has to be adhered to. As for the different wages, there is a lot of information left out. Who is better at their job in the call center? Whoever brings in more customers via phone or is better at customer service is worth more. The engineers found out they could save money on the vans. If the engineers owned the company themselves, would they have brought the van savings to light sooner? The engineers, plumbers and drainage people preform a service that exserts more physical labor on their bodies, and work around toxins which can have health implications later in life. They left out the information on which plumbers bring in the most customers. Personally when something goes wrong for me, I call a friend or use online reviews for references. So which employees bring in the most positive customer reviews for the company. Too much pertinent information has been left out of this documentary.
@@kerrygold6494 of corse there’s people better at their job then others, that’s why this documentary is bullshit. There’s also people with more experience and most likely more college/ degrees. Also with tradesmen theirs always guys that work harder then others and do more jobs most likely. I’m sure theirs a guy that does a job in 1 day that takes someone else 2 days of corse that guys deserve to get paid more. The call center guy that got 21k probably asked for that salary, pretty sure they didn’t just give it to him when they could have paid him 18.
Keep your wage propaganda to yourself....
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Also here in Australia we still have Unions which helps a great deal.
As a cnc machinist I feel skilled tradesmen deserve high wages. A janitor in my job makes 30 use a hour I make a bit over 40 usd per hour. It depends on skills and qualifications NOT ON FAIRNESS. A lunch person does deserve more but at the cost of nobody the company shall pay more period. The millionaire should pay his lower wage people more. Skilled trades get high pay because it's only fair.
What is cnc
@@pearlkelly6337 Computer Numerical Control
I'm a CNC machinist too, but I have no qualifications in it, just on the job training. I would have no hard feelings about people with the qualifications being higher earners than myself.
I've had to work hard to make my experience just as valuable as a qualification and managed to grab myself the Team Leader job. So it is possible to climb the wage structure but it needs to be based on merit, not just shared out evenly.
I honestly find it hard to believe that a janitor anywhere in the U.S. makes 30 dollars an hour. They are typically the lowest paid workers of all. Most medium and large scale companies hire cleaning contractors for that. The pay is like what fast food workers make. Not to mention no medical benefits or paid vacation.
The problem is just because you have a lower skill set why should you be so poor you can't live . The lowest paid jobs are very important also and without it the company don't run
This is why unions are so important.
Unionise the shop floor and have a structured salary in accordance with skill level,qualifications and what the pay is for similar roles in other competing companies. Have the union negotiate pay on a 12 monthly basis so increments are in line with inflation
Amen
I work in the public service and anyone making over $100k has their name and salary posted publicly... Its only fair
Walmart does that for store managers , when you look to see which managers/management is there the store managers name is there along with their pay
This Managing Director should be ashamed to ask employees to take paycuts for other employees.
Employees should be brave enough to stand together and ask Charlie to take a paycut. For that reason almost none of the employees deserve a pay rise.
Well done to the mechanic team for working together and working out an alternative solution.
Very interesting
Super interesting documentary 😅 I won’t lie I believe in willing seller willing buyer.
No one there is being forced and in most cases no 2 people are worth the same.
Where I work one can see that there’s a star skilled labourers who finish in half the time and 1/3 better quality.
70000 a year for push fit. Plumbings like lego but with water. It hilarious this 🤣
Strange their style was so structure-less. Why don't they research out in the market for the same jobs with the same qualifications, ie training time, experience in the field (and at this company) and the performance review, and then make a table of how much should each make? Call centre team simply, without a reasoning, appealing to engineers for their heart, that was too strange. They don't count all the engineers' training and their tuitions to get where they are now? I don't know if this style is the norm in the UK, but in Canada, if the company is as big as this one, there usually is a pay structure all set out by HR and also a performance review annually.
cant afford to pay his staff properly but can waste money on private number plates for every van
Been looking for this for ages. I thought it was called Plumbco
Rather than ask people what they think they're worth, just bring the lowest earners up to a more reasonable level to the rest of the people in their department. You can't compare different departments to each other.
This was very interesting!!! But they figured it out and made things right and fair for everyone!! Pretty cool!!
Taking a pay cut to boost a coworker's salary isn't fair. None of the employees should've played along. They could've easily forced the owner to pay up.
He was rewarded for his efforts by now looking like a chuckie doll
“Lurch” has the correct approach; it’s no one’s business what he earns.
Edit: Before I forget, the managing director is a nutcase for throwing the cat among the pigeons. What a disastrous management move - causing resentment in the ranks.
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@@pinktights747 chicks tend to lol
Why is a call center manager (his son) salary 120k while the HR manager makes 40k... thats why the pay scale is messed up lol.
It is 😂 but I’d imagine if I owned a company I’d do the same cause it mine
This is not a problem in nursing lol. Straight up, I can I go and ask anyone I work with how much they make and they will tell me and vice versa. It's good to know because you might be undervalueing yourself.
Why shud employees sacrifice wages wen the CEO gets a million dollars, im sure if he was to sell his rolls royce he will get tht extra money for his employees🤔
Plumbers earning 85k a year??? I am confused.
Cannot believe he is asking staff to sort out their wages as he drives a Bentley and a 3 million pound mansion, surely he would know the extra money goes while getting a 1k haircut 😂😂
8:54 is that Neil from the inbetweeners' dad?
This company is dodgy. Why should the workers have to pay the bill.
About 3/4s of the jobs (exclusively male cabinetmaking workshops) I've worked at, everyone earns a different wage.
Why? Because the employer during the interview asks "What do you expect to make?" and it's up to you do negotiate your wage based on your skills and experience.
And the business has an interest in managing labour costs with worker retention.
I'm thinking that a "gender wage gap" is based solely on women being less confrontational and having poorer negotiating skills or poor self-esteem issues that lowers their view of their self-worth in the workforce.
The way to solve this is to make it mandatory for every job to list the wage in the job advertisement.
Plumbers earn good money on the side as well
Lol @ the comments below assuming it's gender rather than watching through.
Odd that the Call center Manager askes the HR Manager to justify the higher salary of one of their employees
If he's the Manager of that departement, he should be involved in the hiring proces
Guys is it just me??
I mean they can give 1k of their own(the people who need rais) money to the contributor(people who are taking a cut and make them say its their own) that would make the 1k into 2k then make the contributor give up a reasonable amount as a pay cut that way everyone is happy, since there money is basically being doubled.
Was the salaries shown including pension?
All this showed was that the management is terrible in this company.
Also, it's alright getting the plumbers to work in the office, but they should have had the office staff swapping roles too.
How about post want ads for the job and have the encumbant compete.
Are they all still with the company??
You don't build a business, you build people and then people build the business
Disrupt the system its time for a total overhaul
Nice to see Danny on here, hi Danny ... From the other Danny from the fish shop in mottingham...hope all is well with you.
Bet theres a few 100k in them number plates
Great idea in helping people understand and take ownership. Lots of delusional people it there that think everything should be the same. People are more skilled than others, because they put more work in, period. If you don't feel like you're paid well, do something about it, better your skill set. Or just think life is against you and wallow in your depression.
Another note, the men stepped up and solved issues, and the women asked for free money.
What an awful, amd awfully sexist viewpoint. How can you gauge this from a short documentary.
i worked at company they paid me monthly by cheque , untill i sorted my bank details out wich i did in 6 weeks, But they carried on sending me cheques ,This went on 9 months , paid twice a month loved it , £3700 month ,I Never took a day sick or complained ever .
Charlie, your on 1m yet u have an employee (Tina) on 14,5k... shameful!! wtf is wrong with you...
Hi Jamie
I hope you’re well. How do each of them deserve?
Where are the people who clean the crappie company? How much do they make?
Typically only done by cleaning contractors. Their pay is at or just above minimum wages, as anybody cam do the job.
Redistribution of salary?!?!
Will the output remain the same after the increase? What is the inflation rate?
What was the point of putting them on the phones? That proved nothing
This seems potentially psychologically damaging to the employees. I cannot believe this was done and made into a 'documentary'. Genuine pay gaps exist and should be addressed in a serious manner, not in this ludicrous joke of a way. The owner is vile. This is not how to run a business. Absolutely disgusting behaviour.
Less than 5% of the UK earn more than 75k a year..
I work for the government here in California, the pay is pretty much equal based on your skills. The hiring practices are a totally different story! Racism to the max!
Yeah affirmative action is totally 100% racism. Hiring any person based on skin color is by definition racist. My law and public policy professor asked to define affirmative action on a final exam I answered reverse racism and got all points possible with 2 words. There is also no wage gap. It all depends on hours worked and what job a person does. I am a machinist running computer controlled industrial milling and lathes. The women machinist make the exact same based on senority ad we are a union shop. I even work for Johnson and Johnson the biggest health care company in the world. They use affirmative action and its racist and our union fights for people with the qualifications not the wanted color or sexual orientation. More places should unionize if they are unhappy with wages. I make about the same as the nurse practioner I go to at the DR office. She said she makes 36 an hour I make 40 plus per hour. Jobs like mine are very hard to get in the Midwest. It pays to get a vocational education more than a 4 year degree in many places. I also have no requirement for overtime unless paid 1.5 times after 40 hrs and 2x time on Sunday. I broke 100k in 2021 doing 45 hrs or less per week.
@@ryanramsey9621 Agreed AA is totally racist. It benefits white people the most anyway
She took 14k . What even is that lol
tbf i think this was set in 2011, it still is a terrible wage. but slightly better than it would be now lol
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Great! This is an example that humanity is not hopelessly bad. And a proof that it's not facts or information that change peoples minds, but stories and narratives.
I am proud of those who sacrificed for others, they gained much more, than they lost.
Actually that what they gave is that what they have.
Does the canteen worker look older than 40 to anyone?
Why is this the employees' problem???
if women earned far more less, they would always be hired over men, as a way for businesses to cut costs.....unfortunately that doesnt happen
Yup, either the productivity/flexibility of the average woman is lower, or there is no pay gap.
If women did the same as men and got paid less I'd just hire only women and make more money as a business. But you don't see that happening anywhere. Because that is not reality.
You do realize *why* companies might not want to hire women, right? Sexism and greed are not mutually exclusive.
@@laneatkinson6441 There would be examples to name then. Companies that hire only or mostly women and are very competitive. Or female run companies with only or mostly women. Name some. With so many people throughout the Western world proclaiming this surely you can name some, right? Shouldn't be much to ask.
You can only ignore reality for so long. And you can expect other people to ignore reality only for so long.
@@johnpapst7941 matenity leave is also a factor.
Giving the same amount of time to both the father and the mother would also remove a reason for hiring men over women.
@@laneatkinson6441 then you look at the unemployment rates per gender.
Well, since you asked...
This whole experiment is silly, no one is going to take a pay cut at work, everyone wants more money, you should’ve put a proper pay structure in place for your own and your employees protection that’s just simple business.
The part where the workers go into the call centre is the most ridiculous thing, personally I have worked on phones, I’m now an on the tools tree surgeon, so put me in that test I would piss it, a lot of guys I’ve worked with on the tools got into their industries because of the lack of phones/computers/writing/talking required; “workmen” can be who they are, people on the phones are pretending to be someone else it’s a different skill, which earn entirely different sums for the company and personally for the job. Lurch has it bang on, you knew what you was getting before you accepted the job, if you don’t like it go elsewhere, if you want to be on the workman’s money go and spend the years it takes on low paid apprentice wages to learn the skills and acquire the knowledge it takes to do their job. Talking from experience I participated in a 2 year apprenticeship with tree work, previously in telesales, albeit different to customer service it’s still on the phones and you are taught everything within a week or 2 and left to your own devices thereafter, there’s not a trade on this planet where you can do that, which should answer all your questions before filming this show.
No way
The boss agreed to match whatever the employees managed to raise, right? Why all the animosity towards him?
Tina is being mugged off by her own ppl
"They're taking the piss" ... Let's be honest. Only person taking the piss is the bloke getting a cool million - Then expecting his workforce to work their own pay structure out.
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Wonder in what year this episode was made of!
Pay everyone the same money, without better qualifications, and I guarantee all of them will be out of a job in no time. The boss will simply close that company down before he goes bust, register another one, then respray the work vans under a different company name. Rinse and repeat if any new staff get the grumbles. And if ANYONE in any position does not like the paying job they are in, study to get a better career, and/or go into business for themselves.
Wtf are u talking about? Just start a new company? Really it’s that easy, dude has been in business for 20 years you think a new company just pops up over night and has 200 employees. What planet do u live on, 93% of new businesses don’t make it past the first year.
So many basic people in the comments section think the highest earners should cut their salary and that solves it? 😂
The business doesn't operate in a vacuum, this doco didn't spell it out for you but there's something called a marketplace outside the walls of their office. People in professional careers (e.g. management) are competing in the national market, not just internally with their co workers. Low skill or low responsibility jobs are naturally paid less because there's over-supply of labour that can fill those roles easily.
As for the owner, it's his business that he built, from his own capital, and he took all the risk involved with trying to build a business. He can pay himself whatever he likes.
Always surprised when I see things with that Charlie in it. Beggars belief he has become successful.
Maybe they're just better than you
Millionaire with a bums haircut
Classic example of somebody who has forgotten where he is from. Would never want to work for such an arrogant little, I love myself, flash git for as long as my backside faces south. Wonder if he treats them to a xmas meal. " Look at me, that's a million pound". See ya later. Eeeugh. Why would you work for somebody who divides and conquers.
She's obviously not skilled which is why males are paid more in general cause they work harder
Looks like he never left the tools. Can't even dress himself.
yeah lets just adopt economic socialism i am sure people will love that. This is terrible for organizational culture. if the boss paid more for the other workers whether justified or not, ultimately it would pay itself back in employee satisfaction, better retention and less turnover. Employee turnover is the highest cost to any business. They need to hire an Organizational psychologist it could be fixed.
And to make them do other peoples jobs is ridiculous 21:05 especially when they didn’t have the same training some people aren’t trained to do that kind of work that’s why they didn’t apply for that position also the phone answers or whatever they are called should have to do the technicians job aka working with the actual sewage.
Message to future business owners: Hire only women, they work cheaper!!!
lol I didn’t know British is broke like this. Come to America u make triple what u make
Tina literally does a minimum wage job… no skill… 🤣 should have tried harder in education 🤷♂️🤣
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