Scottish Independence: Truss and Sunak resist talk of new vote

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  • Опубліковано 15 сер 2022
  • After calling First Minister Nicola Sturgeon an attention seeker, tonight it's Conservative leadership frontrunner Liz Truss seeking the spotlight in Scotland.
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    Rishi Sunak is also facing Tory members' questions as the hustings head to Perth.
    Both contenders have promised to increase scrutiny on the Scottish government if they get the keys to Number 10.
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  • @paptapto22
    @paptapto22 Рік тому +133

    If it's a "union" rather than a political occupation, then Scotland should be able to leave whenever they like....

    • @martintucker2825
      @martintucker2825 Рік тому +5

      Couldn't agree more, would be a great day for me and every other British tax payer Brussels will have to put up with you

    • @son_of_stan
      @son_of_stan Рік тому +12

      @@martintucker2825 yeah and scotland will keep it's oil and the nuclear submarine base.

    • @son_of_stan
      @son_of_stan Рік тому

      @@martintucker2825 folk like you are whats wrong with england, you didn't mind when shipyards in scotland built your naval war ships, and the ICI factory at ardeer made explosives used to keep your weapons firing from bullets to bombs, but as soon as you lot got your hands on those trident subs with their nukes courtesy of America, your lot left us to rot on benefits, the SNP couldn't have had their success without people like you cutting us loose and mouthing off about it.

    • @BringMeTeaOrBringMeDeath
      @BringMeTeaOrBringMeDeath Рік тому +3

      like saying if shes just my girlfriend not my wife, she can leave when ever she likes, except she is financial dependent on me so she cant

    • @son_of_stan
      @son_of_stan Рік тому

      @@BringMeTeaOrBringMeDeath if scotland was your wife she'd be the main earner with oil fields and a refinery with nuclear sub bases.

  • @drumusic7
    @drumusic7 Рік тому +108

    Liz Truss telling us to ignore the highest scottish official in power says everything you need to know about her and the conservative government.

    • @kethughes8266
      @kethughes8266 Рік тому +1

      As Scotland has become a one party state unfortunately they can ignore as there are no votes to loose.

    • @kethughes8266
      @kethughes8266 Рік тому +1

      @Graeme Roberts I was referring to the shower sent to the UK parliament in a UKIP manner

    • @son_of_stan
      @son_of_stan Рік тому

      @@kethughes8266 nope not a one party state the chancers at Westminster can't stand the fact that the Scottish people have their own say, it's scotlands people who put the snp in charge no one else, if they want us back then they must return all the heavy industry jobs they stole from us and then handed to china.

    • @kethughes8266
      @kethughes8266 Рік тому

      @@son_of_stan So the UK has to turn the tide of globalisation which every western country has been experiencing.Keep voting for the mighty SNP they will sort it out with all that global power the Scottish government has.

    • @son_of_stan
      @son_of_stan Рік тому

      @@kethughes8266 when folk like you talk about globalization and "globalists", what you really mean is the old international jew trope, your not fooling anyone.

  • @ChrisMinusHumour
    @ChrisMinusHumour Рік тому +94

    The tories are laughable in Scotland.

    • @alisdairmclean8605
      @alisdairmclean8605 Рік тому +10

      Laughed at certainly.

    • @alexanderstefanov6474
      @alexanderstefanov6474 Рік тому

      They're no laughing matter, the damage they've done to the UK.kv
      er last 40 years is arguably worse than what the Nazis did to Germany

    • @scottishlisa3463
      @scottishlisa3463 Рік тому

      Not half as much as the vile, nasty, ignorant Nat's . Civic and joyous ............ certainly not. Scotland's shame.

  • @jebbo-c1l
    @jebbo-c1l Рік тому +191

    lizz truss might be even better for the Scottish independence movement than Boris

    • @FalaBell
      @FalaBell Рік тому +23

      I agree, I think Thick Lizzie will be a great motivator towards independence.

    • @bobinscotland
      @bobinscotland Рік тому +15

      @@FalaBell THICKER THAN BORIS was her campaign slogan.

    • @Musika1321
      @Musika1321 Рік тому +9

      She is and the best part - any Scottish Tory seen to be giving her their backing is being tarred with the same brush...She's utterly loopy and I think they secretly know it, which is even more saddening and terrifying.

    • @b62boom1
      @b62boom1 Рік тому

      @@bobinscotland thicker than a Boxing Day turd.

    • @scottishlisa3463
      @scottishlisa3463 Рік тому

      Still as ignorant and immature about accepting democracy I see. Ignorant and not respecting the democratic vote of the majority of Scots who voted to remain in the UK. Aye, ignorant of democracy unless it suits you.

  • @bernardtimmer6723
    @bernardtimmer6723 Рік тому +57

    Can Truss save the Union??? After the disdain and contempt she has tried to bury Sturgeon under she only accelerated the breakup...
    Yes Sunak loves Scotland, especially Darlington Scotland????

    • @apparently_sonam
      @apparently_sonam Рік тому +1

      Face it, we are doomed. Even the options we will have, will do nothing for the people…..

    • @bernardtimmer6723
      @bernardtimmer6723 Рік тому

      @@apparently_sonam I'm sorry Sonam, you're right, certainly nit at present...

    • @davidpearn2484
      @davidpearn2484 Рік тому +2

      Can truss save the union, truss can't save the tories.

    • @Nick-kb6jd
      @Nick-kb6jd Рік тому +9

      @@davidpearn2484 Truss couldn't save a PDF file.

    • @imgood6535
      @imgood6535 Рік тому

      @@Nick-kb6jd 😆😆

  • @amayha3293
    @amayha3293 Рік тому +64

    Scotland will get independence & the tories will never get more than 1 seat in scotland .. She won't get anywhere in scotland & things have changed .

  • @pitchforkparty
    @pitchforkparty Рік тому +53

    Independence might be the only way for Scotland to keep an NHS-style health care service. Because the US is going to carve up the UK's NHS like a Thanksgiving turkey. Any trade deal with the US will require that tribute up front.

    • @grubbygruber1621
      @grubbygruber1621 Рік тому +2

      Very true, but I cannot see a trade deal with the US for years yet.
      Either way the NHS in England will most undoubtedly be privatised moreso in the interum

    • @williamwallace6508
      @williamwallace6508 Рік тому

      the NHS is fully devolved, you nationalists are truly thick

    • @kethughes8266
      @kethughes8266 Рік тому +1

      @@grubbygruber1621 That would be a real vote winner.Not

    • @kethughes8266
      @kethughes8266 Рік тому +1

      @Graeme Roberts Yes and Scotland had the choice not to

    • @yeetgameryt8498
      @yeetgameryt8498 Рік тому

      @Graeme Roberts mate the Royal Mail being privatised means that Westminster has less control over you and your mail no longer owning it so you views and conflicting with independence from Westminster but want the perks of it managing this

  • @steverichmond7142
    @steverichmond7142 Рік тому +50

    I moved to Scotland because of the SNP. I am retired - in Scotland prescriptions are free and the NHS is great. However in Scotland I found a true belief in society - people looking to help each other.

    • @TroyaE117
      @TroyaE117 Рік тому +1

      I know Steve. Only those wonderful Scottish separatists ever care about one another. Such SNP exceptionalism is the grist to the separatist mill, and how you hear it recycled, well, apart from the odd bit of embezzlement, and the occasional affections shown to young men and the odd grope here and there.

    • @steverichmond7142
      @steverichmond7142 Рік тому

      @@TroyaE117 Nothing is worse than Sunak. By my measure he's not even British. His father is Indian. He made his money short selling RBOS stock at a time when a number of us were trying to save the bank. Around 20,000 people lost their jobs. He did it in conjunction with Fred Goodwin - which makes him a party to insider trading. The Tories are absolutely full of perverts and deviants like David Warburton, Sir Christopher Chope, Ruth Davidson. We may also see the only former Prime Minister arrested for treason when the truth about Boris Johnson and his Russian friends emerge.

    • @TroyaE117
      @TroyaE117 Рік тому +1

      @@steverichmond7142 Calm down, Steve. I don't like Sunak either. I have never liked him. He was disloyal to the Prime Minister and to the Conservative Party. As for your talk of perverts???? Where have you been all summer? Have you looked at the SNP on that one? We nearly heard more about that than we did about car ferries.

    • @silondon9010
      @silondon9010 Рік тому

      The fascists of the future will call themselves Snp supporters

    • @steverichmond7142
      @steverichmond7142 Рік тому

      @@silondon9010 That's why we are building a socialist equitable society in Scotland. We have all the land, all the free alternative energy. EV's are powered free in Scotland. It's the sewer that is London that is holding us back and robbing us of our wealth building stupid projects like Cross Rail and charging us for part of it.

  • @DrumToTheBassWoop
    @DrumToTheBassWoop Рік тому +31

    SNP we're getting worried they would lose support after Boris went, boy have the heavens called. LIZ Is a walking Neo-boris. 😂

    • @jimstirling7223
      @jimstirling7223 Рік тому +2

      The Tories have done the impossible 4x in a row now , with each successive PM worse than previous Cameron, May , Johnson and now Truss heading for Downing street. Truss as PM would be hilarious if not for the fact that she will cause irreparable harm

    • @kethughes8266
      @kethughes8266 Рік тому

      If Nelson Mandela were the new Tory leader it would be seen as a driver for another referendum.You might be conned don't expect the rest of us to be.

  • @jeremyshepherd8142
    @jeremyshepherd8142 Рік тому +29

    Well I doubt someone that says the best thing to do with Scotlands first minister is ignore them is really going to have much sway over the Scottish people

  • @jackisherwood7072
    @jackisherwood7072 Рік тому +124

    If Scotland become independent, please can us from the north of England come and join you? 🙏

    • @angussoutter7824
      @angussoutter7824 Рік тому +14

      Yes we will be become the Northern power hose together

    • @alisdairmclean8605
      @alisdairmclean8605 Рік тому +12

      Yes.

    • @DrumToTheBassWoop
      @DrumToTheBassWoop Рік тому +2

      @@angussoutter7824 you do realise of that would happen, Scotland would be nearly on parity in population to a smaller England. That amount of working populace would galvanise a fledging independent country even more, especially once joining the EU.

    • @Setinmywaysalways
      @Setinmywaysalways Рік тому +11

      Come on up the waters lovely

    • @slipperydouglas8263
      @slipperydouglas8263 Рік тому +11

      More than welcome

  • @Jimmie16
    @Jimmie16 Рік тому +28

    The Empire is dead it merely awaits its burial. And for an English politician (of any party) to attempt to tell us what and when we can do about anything is just ridiculous. So she starts her talk with a bare faced lie.

    • @williamwallace6508
      @williamwallace6508 Рік тому

      filthy anglophobe.

    • @leethrelfalllt
      @leethrelfalllt Рік тому

      You do realise that Scotland, as part of the UK, were the instigators in creating that empire? Or maybe you don't cos that doesn't fit your narratives...,😩😩😩😩

    • @williamwallace6508
      @williamwallace6508 Рік тому

      @@leethrelfalllt
      Of course I do.
      The Scots were at the forefront of British Emperial expansion.
      The fact you uneducated SNP Indpendence types don't know is why we need you fuckwits votes removed

  • @Sam-Cain
    @Sam-Cain Рік тому +73

    These two can barely stop the English from tearing each other apart, what hope do they have of holding onto Scotland too?
    None. The answer is none.

    • @jonathansimmons5353
      @jonathansimmons5353 Рік тому

      Put the vote to the whole of the UK..
      It will be a landslide leave vote.

    • @joancooley1387
      @joancooley1387 Рік тому +2

      Or maybe truth to tell they don’t care.

    • @macvas7367
      @macvas7367 Рік тому

      English illetrate peasants cannot blame others for their fault. You got what you voted. Have your own cake and enjoy eating

    • @shaunpreston3212
      @shaunpreston3212 Рік тому +1

      Yea baring in mind one off them isn't English! And we don't want to hold on to Scotland!🏴‍☠️

    • @macvas7367
      @macvas7367 Рік тому +1

      So why are the English worried about Scottish independence, Guess why ? There won't be any UK Union left. Even the Union Jack will have to visit the drawing board.

  • @GF_MF
    @GF_MF Рік тому +49

    06:29 "rebuilding our economy post covid" c'mon it's Brexit, and everyone with a brain can understand that now. besides other European countries have recovered from Covid. The UK has been driven backward and the Scottish people just want to leave and never hear from the Tories ever again.

    • @lion73266
      @lion73266 Рік тому +3

      do you always type bull?

    • @dhdjdhdj2517
      @dhdjdhdj2517 Рік тому +7

      @@lion73266 ask anyone in Scotland almost everyone wants independence because everything favours England and not us

    • @gazsm1
      @gazsm1 Рік тому +1

      You do know that had Scotland gained independence back in 2014 it would of caused all of the UK to be thrown out of the EU. Brexit may have been wrong but at least it was put to a vote. Sturgeon and the SNP would of had us all taken out without any say in the matter whatsoever.

    • @gazsm1
      @gazsm1 Рік тому +2

      @@mattl1025 it is fact, the EU acknowledged this. The EU treaty was with the UK, had Scotland become independent that treaty would have been voided.

    • @dabs4077
      @dabs4077 Рік тому +4

      @@gazsm1 an unfair vote as whatever England decides, in the "union", England gets. That's the advantage of having the biggest population... Had Scotland had the biggest population in the UK, at this moment in time we wouldn't be in that mess and would still be part of the EU. Big difference...

  • @SkintLife
    @SkintLife Рік тому +78

    For what is possibly the next leader of the UK to say the best thing to do with the first minister of Scotland is to ignore her is blatantly saying ignore Scotland!!! Love or hate Sturgeon she is the leader of OUR government yet the UK government thinks our government is best ignored. Says it all.

    • @mac7040
      @mac7040 Рік тому +8

      Westminster ignores everything and everyone outside London.

    • @bobsocks7575
      @bobsocks7575 Рік тому +1

      Don’t forget Starmer has also said he wouldn’t support a referendum

    • @casimirkylian3703
      @casimirkylian3703 Рік тому +6

      In my opinion Scotland is very important part of the United Kingdom and many people are worried about Scots breaking off, that means Scottish are very important part of the UK. Although, I believe that country with a developed economy and rich culture like Scotland is capable enough to decide for themselves and out of respect to them England shouldn’t be meddling into their national decisions.
      Problem from the English POV is, that these referendums are risky business, many people who voted to leave E.U now regret it. Deciding with your heart is not always the best option and people who vote don’t usually bother to make deeper political analysis. Look at Biden, he got so many votes and few months after the elections people were ashamed to admit they voted for him

    • @mac7040
      @mac7040 Рік тому +6

      @@bobsocks7575 Westminster ignores everything and everyone outside London.

    • @bobsocks7575
      @bobsocks7575 Рік тому

      @@mac7040 They dont though

  • @Oluinneachain
    @Oluinneachain Рік тому +58

    “Truss is a blank canvas” so true, so true. “Sunak cares about the people of Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland as much as he does about England” so true, so true😂

    • @gordonjamescowiest
      @gordonjamescowiest Рік тому +6

      @@JupiterThunder Rishi Sunak was born in the UK, India has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

    • @Sam-Cain
      @Sam-Cain Рік тому +2

      @@JupiterThunder 🤡

    • @harveydontell777
      @harveydontell777 Рік тому +2

      @@gordonjamescowiest Why did Richi have a green card for the USofA then??
      And he was born into a middle class home so why is he taking care of the super rich while taking from the poor??

  • @mkoschara
    @mkoschara Рік тому +37

    And again, no mention of Brexit.

    • @johnbrereton5229
      @johnbrereton5229 Рік тому +3

      Because that was 6 years ago, that's why .

    • @lion73266
      @lion73266 Рік тому +2

      give over for gawds sake.

    • @andrewrobinson2565
      @andrewrobinson2565 Рік тому +5

      The Scottish Referendum was in 2014. The Brexit Referendum was in 2016. The beginning of Brexit was at the start of 2021. New rules for Scotland = New referendum for Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿. JB

    • @leonardbexter6372
      @leonardbexter6372 Рік тому +3

      @@andrewrobinson2565 Scottish referendum was in 2014.

    • @andrewrobinson2565
      @andrewrobinson2565 Рік тому +8

      @@leonardbexter6372 Thank you - brain fart. Probably because I'm French 🇪🇺🇨🇵. Corrected 👍. Looking forward to changing my British passport for a Scottish one 😀.

  • @mkoschara
    @mkoschara Рік тому +87

    The SNP are popular because of their platform. The Tories are unpopular because of their platform. It's just this simple.

    • @silondon9010
      @silondon9010 Рік тому

      Welfare payments just buying voters

    • @joepublic4082
      @joepublic4082 Рік тому

      The SNP are *NOT* popular at all & are a laughing stock to everybody with a 3 digit IQ. I guess we know why you like them then huh...

    • @18pablo88
      @18pablo88 Рік тому +1

      Policies

    • @kethughes8266
      @kethughes8266 Рік тому +3

      The SNP are popular despite being inadequate.

    • @joepublic4082
      @joepublic4082 Рік тому

      @@kethughes8266 Which speaks to the devastating low level of intelligence among Scots IMO.

  • @jnae2006
    @jnae2006 Рік тому +37

    The only reason that the Tories are trying to stop Scotland from another Scottish Independence: is that they need Scotland since brexshit and breaking away from the EU England needs Scotland now more than it every did

    • @silondon9010
      @silondon9010 Рік тому

      The snp is against oil 🛢, go figure

    • @Maggy47
      @Maggy47 Рік тому +1

      Rubbish

    • @jnae2006
      @jnae2006 Рік тому +13

      @@Maggy47 Will tell me why the Tories have went to the high court to stop Scotland from having a referendum

    • @jonathansimmons5353
      @jonathansimmons5353 Рік тому

      Aye laddie!-.snp have got it sorted!-.
      Showed them whos the bossman ------>ua-cam.com/video/MJiq3Y4c4C0/v-deo.html

    • @kirsteneasdale5707
      @kirsteneasdale5707 Рік тому +7

      @@Maggy47 Not ‘Rubbish’. Where do you think your oil, gas, electricity revenues come from?
      It is getting more difficult for English Nationalists to argue 2 diametrically opposing positions, in 2 different nations.
      If Scotland was such a drain on little England then why isn’t Westminster wishing us well and waving goodbye?

  • @thefastandthedead1769
    @thefastandthedead1769 Рік тому +86

    It is no wonder that Scotland keeps voting for a party of independence. With the SNP winning the last eleven elections straight and that using three different voting systems! Roll on indy!

    • @Alastair_
      @Alastair_ Рік тому +14

      I find it hilarious when the English media post their stories saying there's not much support for independence XD

    • @richardsmith1241
      @richardsmith1241 Рік тому

      i think she fiddles it mate .. nobody here wants or likes her

    • @kinngrimm
      @kinngrimm Рік тому +1

      I don't know, but wonder. Is england subverting or somewhat influencing efforts by Scotland citizens to become independent? If so, how is that done?

    • @whocares3132
      @whocares3132 Рік тому

      It will be Immoral of Scottish people if the vote another one. Its a Taught time for UK but if they leave now it will be immoral and They cant just vote every year for independence

    • @Alastair_
      @Alastair_ Рік тому

      @@whocares3132 Lol. The last vote was in 2014. 8 years ago.

  • @samcarena4702
    @samcarena4702 Рік тому +147

    As a Scot we will never ever forget the poll tax imposed by the English on us Scots

    • @hiramabiff2017
      @hiramabiff2017 Рік тому

      keep eating your deep fried mars bars and whinging as you fall into alcoholism, it's what Scotland does best 😉

    • @bagpuss8960
      @bagpuss8960 Рік тому +26

      As a Geordie we will never forget the Scots taking control of Newcastle in 1644 and didn't even share their ketts with us.

    • @Nick-kb6jd
      @Nick-kb6jd Рік тому +4

      @@bagpuss8960 hahaha. Fair enough!!

    • @TroyaE117
      @TroyaE117 Рік тому +5

      And never forget those Bannockburn muddy fields ! Sore Elbow.

    • @Paul-sm8ms
      @Paul-sm8ms Рік тому +20

      The Welsh, English and Northern Irish were all subject to the same tax, not just the Scott's. It didn't last long and now the council tax is based off house value as was the original rateable value of your house. It was not unique to Scotland.

  • @andrewwhelan7311
    @andrewwhelan7311 Рік тому +37

    The English Nationalist party of London and the South East. AKA the English Conservative Party are the most successful Independence recruitment force that ever existed. Every time one of them raises their head out the trough and opens their silver spoon gobs, someone else considers independence. Heddwch/ Peace from independent tropical Cymru.

    • @junctionfilms6348
      @junctionfilms6348 Рік тому +1

      So you are a nationalist as well then.

    • @andrewwhelan7311
      @andrewwhelan7311 Рік тому +1

      @@junctionfilms6348 Just someone who believes that a government nobody ever votes for in his own country, should not be allowed to decide how it is run. A Conservative English Nationalist narrative is the most significant factor driving the break up of the U.K. If wanting the best for your own people is Nationalism, then yes, I am a Nationalist.

    • @junctionfilms6348
      @junctionfilms6348 Рік тому +1

      @@andrewwhelan7311 There apoears many contradictions in there. What do you want, Cymru or the UK?

    • @andrewwhelan7311
      @andrewwhelan7311 Рік тому

      @@junctionfilms6348 A Cymru that is free of the Eton educated London centric elites who care little about our country,other than regarding it as a resource/ energy colony or a cheap playground for the affluent white flight hordes fleeing England because it's not English enough for them anymore. To be rid of paying for massive multi billion pound project like HS2 when not an inch of track runs in Wales. To have the countless millions that are taken from the crown estate (off shore Welsh coastal areas) to be of benefit to the Welsh and not the London treasury and royalty. Wales is the 5th largest electricity exporter on the planet, yet a third of its population live in energy poverty. I could go on and on, but I am busy working for a living right now.

    • @junctionfilms6348
      @junctionfilms6348 Рік тому +1

      @@andrewwhelan7311 You sound a lot like all the other hardcore nationalists of any other ilk.
      Maybe one day humanity might mature beyond putting petty identarian ideas as a priority in tribalistic mindsets.
      We are human beings first. Son, brother and nationslity second, not the other way around.
      Your comments that people leave England because it is not Englush enough just shows what idiotic prejudice exists still.
      Do you really think that?
      Do you really think everyone in England is somehow tied with the ruling classes?
      Do you think those ruling classes also are not mixed ?
      On another tack King Henry 8th was from Welsh ancestry? So what?

  • @Cellpeg
    @Cellpeg Рік тому +70

    Free Scotland, support for Scotland

    • @superflyjimmysnucka9068
      @superflyjimmysnucka9068 Рік тому +6

      Do the rest of us a favour! But can you pay back the billions you owe the English?

    • @lion73266
      @lion73266 Рік тому +5

      be ruled from Brussels.. be free

    • @stephenfowlie742
      @stephenfowlie742 Рік тому +1

      @@superflyjimmysnucka9068 🤣 You are forgetting that Scotland runs on a budget set by Westminster. The Scottish economy generates 85 billion pounds a year but operates on a budget of less than half that. Not forgetting the discounted rates on Energy and Water that England receives from Scotland so it is in fact the English that will be paying the divorce bill.

    • @masnwrdl0511
      @masnwrdl0511 Рік тому +6

      Lol!, "Free Scotland" but yet be controlled by Brussels and the other how many other countries there are in the EU? 😂. What a brain you have..

    • @lion73266
      @lion73266 Рік тому +2

      @Graeme Roberts Are you totally deluded?

  • @surfinbearbeats
    @surfinbearbeats Рік тому +70

    Even Mark Drakeford who's a welsh labour uniost thinks the whole games up for the union should the Tories keep doing what they are doing. Get the popcorn out.

    • @johnbrereton5229
      @johnbrereton5229 Рік тому

      You don't spell Nationalist with a U .

    • @surfinbearbeats
      @surfinbearbeats Рік тому +6

      @@johnbrereton5229 in welsh you do

    • @huwwilliams3230
      @huwwilliams3230 Рік тому +6

      Annibyniaeth i Gymru a'r Alban.

    • @johnbrereton5229
      @johnbrereton5229 Рік тому

      @@surfinbearbeats
      Mark Drakeford isn't really Welsh, he can't even speak Welsh properly.

    • @b62boom1
      @b62boom1 Рік тому +4

      The Welsh independence movement is gaining momentum. I would love a union of the Celtic Nations. What we have now has become absurd in the extreme. The Empire mentality is so imbeded in in the walls of Eaton, it produces a type of person from a bygone era, that the entire planet has moved on from, which is why they constantly talk about the days of Empire, and desperately want to go back to the way it was a century ago.

  • @uprightape100
    @uprightape100 Рік тому +67

    As an American of Scot descent, I say do it, my friends.

    • @christhomas5341
      @christhomas5341 Рік тому +11

      I think Texas should get independence aswell as Hawaii, Puerto Rico.. the list really goes on with your country.

    • @mijicmugendo
      @mijicmugendo Рік тому +10

      @@christhomas5341
      Why? They are states, Scotland is a country

    • @user-ub3fr1um4f
      @user-ub3fr1um4f Рік тому

      Its always wise to never listen to amerikkkans but on this one I dont see the issue.

    • @b_ergo
      @b_ergo Рік тому

      @@mijicmugendo Hawaii was a country that was stolen from its rightful leaders

    • @danarose6314
      @danarose6314 Рік тому +3

      @@user-ub3fr1um4f Oh you mean that country that saved little England not once but twice!

  • @xtraspecialmango
    @xtraspecialmango Рік тому +34

    Thank Gawd we don't vote for the Tory Buggers ✌😃

    • @MontyCantsin5
      @MontyCantsin5 Рік тому +4

      Indeed.

    • @AlwaysAC
      @AlwaysAC Рік тому +3

      And yet they’ve ruled for over a decade. Tragic isn’t it.

    • @alisdairmclean8605
      @alisdairmclean8605 Рік тому +3

      We haven't voted for them since 1955 yet we are saddled with them. How many generations is that?

    • @Joker-yw9hl
      @Joker-yw9hl Рік тому +1

      England is so Tory-dominant that the UK wouldn't have had a Labour government without Scottish and Welsh votes until 1997. That's how much the current system favours the Conservative Party. The Scots voting SNP in general elections makes it nigh-on impossible to get rid of the Tories. As a Welshman (who has never voted Labour or Conservative), I would implore the Scots to vote for UK-wide parties if they really want change (realistically Labour or the Lib Dems). It would be more useful to all of us on this island if the Scots ruled instead of seeing Westminster as some foreign power. The country badly needs a competent opposition. I blame them just as much as I blame the Tories

    • @xtraspecialmango
      @xtraspecialmango Рік тому

      @@Joker-yw9hl You lot need to pull your weight too... We don't vote for the feckers.

  • @Paulsie85
    @Paulsie85 Рік тому +40

    Why does every Tory mp/msp always say the majority of Scottish people don’t want a referendum in the time frame Nicola sturgeon has put forward??
    Aye we do!
    And Nicola Sturgeon has saw off Cameron, May, Johnson and now another unelected leader is on the way.
    She will see off another 1 soon I bet!

    • @TruthTortoise81
      @TruthTortoise81 Рік тому +13

      yeah funny how you keep voting SNP in droves if you don't want a referendum.

    • @MontyCantsin5
      @MontyCantsin5 Рік тому

      Because they like to make up complete shite in some sad attempt to pretend that they are relevant in Scotland.

    • @mikewalrus4763
      @mikewalrus4763 Рік тому

      Aye Paulsie then in that case why don't you just leave? This rubbish about Scotland not wanting Indy-pen-dance is close to the rubbish about the fact that England still want you along spending our money on yourselves! so either put up or shut up!

    • @kirsteneasdale5707
      @kirsteneasdale5707 Рік тому +5

      @@mattl1025 The Scottish Parliament voted to hold a referendum

    • @Joker-yw9hl
      @Joker-yw9hl Рік тому

      Notable that the SNP have lost seats in subsequent elections however, and will likely do so again in 2024

  • @estherzhang5809
    @estherzhang5809 Рік тому +9

    Support Scotland independent !!!!

  • @DaGabbaGangsta
    @DaGabbaGangsta Рік тому +123

    as a scot, i would love to hear sunak's opinion on india's independence from this establishment in westminster

    • @S-North
      @S-North Рік тому +5

      @@ChristianPatriarchy Many many Indians made 'their' fortune because of British proliferation, did they not?

    • @doctorpanigrahi9975
      @doctorpanigrahi9975 Рік тому +12

      @@S-North No, not 45 trillion !

    • @DaGabbaGangsta
      @DaGabbaGangsta Рік тому

      @@ChristianPatriarchy the establishment down south reaped all the rewards of the rape of india, i find it kind of funny, looking at your channel that a lot of the justification of that was in the name of christianity

    • @FriedrichBarb
      @FriedrichBarb Рік тому +18

      Oh how far "Great" Britain has fallen, its actually hilarious looking on from Germany.

    • @DaGabbaGangsta
      @DaGabbaGangsta Рік тому +8

      @@ChristianPatriarchy lol elaborate, educate me, this i really want to hear my good loving christian

  • @sp-vt4je
    @sp-vt4je Рік тому +12

    The "Union" that never was. Let us protect it and pretend it still exists or is relevant even. Just like the monarchy, the queen, princes, lords, and other yesteryear nonsense from Game of Thrones.

  • @NemimeRedemption
    @NemimeRedemption Рік тому +67

    As a North Welshman, I'll also be voting for independence from the corruptable Tory Wesminister. Plaid Cymru 🏵

    • @elcristoph7380
      @elcristoph7380 Рік тому +2

      Why not just vote labor? I mean if your issue is the Tory’s you do realize the trick is to vote then out..

    • @masnwrdl0511
      @masnwrdl0511 Рік тому +1

      Why tho?

    • @spellbound4383
      @spellbound4383 Рік тому

      I don’t blame you, but I don’t think it will change much

    • @kirsteneasdale5707
      @kirsteneasdale5707 Рік тому +5

      @@elcristoph7380 By force of sheer numbers, it is only the people of England who can vote out the Tories at Westminster. Scotland and Wales only get the governments which England votes for.

    • @Joker-yw9hl
      @Joker-yw9hl Рік тому

      As a South Welshman, as much as I love our country, independence would be an absolute disaster. We already have devolved powers and run our own NHS etc, as well as getting money from London via the Barnett formula. If we leave, we destroy our economy and our public services

  • @villakaty2206
    @villakaty2206 Рік тому +11

    Britain’s ‘Tin Lady’, Dim Lizzy Truss a new catalyst for Scottish independence.

    • @kethughes8266
      @kethughes8266 Рік тому

      Everything is seen as a new catalyst for Scottish independence.Ever get the feeling you are being manipulated.

  • @kirsteneasdale5707
    @kirsteneasdale5707 Рік тому +69

    It is the people of Scotland, and the majority of their elected representatives in the Scottish and Westminster Parliaments who have voted to hold a referendum on Scottish Independence.

    • @Tao_Tology
      @Tao_Tology Рік тому +2

      The majority of people did not vote snp, dear.
      Not that it matters, the snp lied to you: they were never going to give you 'another IndyRef in 2023'. They are not even planning for one.
      They are not even asking permissiom for one.

    • @h-Qalziel
      @h-Qalziel Рік тому +9

      @@NA-gf1zy It's not asking for Independence; it's asking for a democratic referendum on the subject. A lot has changed since and if you still oppose independence you can just vote No. Why do people insist that holding another referendum is an affront to what was voted before, it's just an opinion poll where No can win again! The fact that people insist on not holding a referendum implies that you think that Yes will win, which then implies that you think a majority of people support independence, which then implies that there is a mandate for another referendum...

    • @makasete30
      @makasete30 Рік тому +1

      @@h-Qalziel it was once in a generation vote which was a phrase coined by the SNP. The SNP were clear then that you don’t get to make such a momentous decision on the future of Scotland and the UK every time public opinion shifts, or things change, no matter how much. Public opinion changes often and so whilst it may be favourable for a yes vote one week, it can easily shift back the next.
      The referendum was incredibly expensive and divisive but Scotland voted to stay in the Union through good times and bad. If after a generation there is an overwhelming need for another one, then they can start to make the case for independence at that time.
      That’s why you don’t see other democratic countries like Canada and Quebec holding them very often, even though those who voted yes but lost want to keep having referendums until they get their way.
      The SNP will say whatever they need and go back on their promise of once in a generation to persuade Scotland to leave the UK. I think the majority of Scots prefer to have the SNP in devolved government to represent them, but that does not translate to wanting to break up the UK. Scottish voters know they have a good thing going as part of the UK and are far too clever to fall for the lies.

    • @Kiltskills
      @Kiltskills Рік тому

      @@Tao_Tology But percentage wise, more people in Scotland voted for SNP at the last Scottish elections than those that voted Tory in the last GE. And virtually nobody votes for the lying Tory party in Scotland, do they dear....

    • @Kiltskills
      @Kiltskills Рік тому +6

      @@makasete30 once in a generation vote? Maybe that was said, but so what. We were also told by David Cameron, prior to Indyref, that if we vote to remain in the UK that we would remain in the EU. That promise was broken, David Cameron and the Tory party lied.
      Indy ref 2 please.

  • @alancassell566
    @alancassell566 Рік тому +9

    Tough territory for tory leaders.. Scotland has the right to decide whether to remain in a non - EU UK

  • @hannofranz7973
    @hannofranz7973 Рік тому +14

    Liz Truss would mean a major push towards Scottish independence. This woman will be proving an absolute failure in all regards. A high speed movie of Thatcher in her final years. Only capable of ruining the economy and increasing tensions everywhere.

    • @scl6747
      @scl6747 Рік тому +2

      Get her in then, short term pain but long term gain !!

    • @Nick-kb6jd
      @Nick-kb6jd Рік тому +1

      Ah yes, but think of the new pork markets.

    • @jimstirling7223
      @jimstirling7223 Рік тому

      @@Nick-kb6jd let's not forget getting apples back on trees

    • @mrdhillon6852
      @mrdhillon6852 Рік тому

      @@scl6747 Brilliant 👏

    • @mrdhillon6852
      @mrdhillon6852 Рік тому

      @@Nick-kb6jd Don't forget she has completed more trade deals than the EU - only completed 4, one with Bosnia and another was with Greenland. She has also sold Yorkshire tea 🍵 to China 🇨🇳...like that will save the economy and protect OAPs from freezing to death this winter! She even claimed the Ozone layer is healing itself!!! 😲 You just could not make this stuff up!!!🤣

  • @indricotherium4802
    @indricotherium4802 Рік тому +51

    You'd think a party made up of MPs and members as thoroughly English nationalist as the Tories would be only too willing to send off Scotland with a marching band and fireworks. Trouble is this awkward clash of interests with the British Establishment which no way wants to lose control of the land & resources north of the border.

    • @shaun8141
      @shaun8141 Рік тому +3

      What resources does Scotland own that that the British isles doesn't? Did you know Scotland spends £80B annually but only generates £65B in Taxes.... I'm all for Independence but they simply can't afford to be independent

    • @Kiltskills
      @Kiltskills Рік тому

      @@shaun8141 He already told you, can you not read. LAND and the resources being amongst others, people, renewable energy and north sea oil that the English require to prop up their failing economy.
      Did you know what you said above just isn't true and that you're a condescending, self regarding English Monty?

    • @scottkosmos
      @scottkosmos Рік тому +6

      @@shaun8141 mmmm, where do i start with this one, income tax is the only form of income for a government? I could name at least another 4 which is not devolved to Scotland and so is not recorded in GERS. Scotlands economy is worth north of 200 billion a year without oil. Look at westminster tax receipts and they still have to borrow which Scotland cannot do. What is the national debt of the UK?
      2.7 Trillion or 90% of GDP, I think the UK cant afford for Scotland to be independent!

    • @benmacdui9328
      @benmacdui9328 Рік тому

      @@shaun8141 You are so clueless its unbelievable. "We cant afford to be independent" 🤣🤣🤣😴😴😴 If you c*nts didnt need us we'd be gone already you thick f*ck.

    • @imgood6535
      @imgood6535 Рік тому +7

      @@scottkosmos glory to independent Scotland ✌️✌️

  • @Andy-ie1zg
    @Andy-ie1zg Рік тому +66

    Interesting comment by the young Tory when he say snp taking the people for granted, would suggest he takes another look at what’s actually going and who really is taking the people for granted!

    • @seeyouunt3766
      @seeyouunt3766 Рік тому +10

      Funny that he is either not scottish or hides it as well.....

    • @gazsm1
      @gazsm1 Рік тому +1

      The SNP don't take people for granted, they ignore them instead accept, that is, the most destructive of nationalists that work in favour for the SNP's endless rhetoric of hate, grievance and independence over working for the people.

    • @gazsm1
      @gazsm1 Рік тому +2

      @Orc Hunter wrong! Very much north of the border.

    • @kryoboy2.074
      @kryoboy2.074 Рік тому

      @Orc Hunter probably takes it in the batty from Dross😂
      Let us hunt some......
      Tories😉😂👍

    • @seeyouunt3766
      @seeyouunt3766 Рік тому

      @@gazsm1 I don't see hate...
      Not from the SNP.
      They aren't the xenophobes who pulled us out of the biggest trading union, ended free movement or caused all the issues with NI.
      I don't see the tories empowering marginalised groups, in fact the opposite thanks to Pritis wee anti protest Bill.
      Never have I heard Nicola or the SNP say the workers of this country don't work hard enough either. Liz Truss feels otherwise though....
      We have no alternative in scotland, the tories are elitist scum, Labour have shot themselves in the foot here, and the lib dems are still frowned upon for jumping in bed with Cameron.... Greens still too small
      So we vote for the people that give us a voice. The only party with Scotland amd only Scotlands interests in mind.
      Dry your eyes pal

  • @somthingbrutal
    @somthingbrutal Рік тому +29

    block all legal routes on the independence question and people will just take matters into their own hands

    • @Tao_Tology
      @Tao_Tology Рік тому

      What, like........not voting for it again?

    • @mrsandman3027
      @mrsandman3027 Рік тому +1

      @@Tao_Tology probably

    • @somthingbrutal
      @somthingbrutal Рік тому

      @@mrsandman3027 well we will be free from tory mismanagement that is a good place to start

    • @SSJfraz
      @SSJfraz Рік тому +12

      @@mrsandman3027 The same thing that has happened with any other country throughout history that has given Britain the middle finger. They go on to have a prosperous future, many now doing considerably better for themselves than the UK.

    • @mrsandman3027
      @mrsandman3027 Рік тому +2

      @@SSJfraz we're in an economic recession. Why on earth would now be the right time for that

  • @BadgerBoy59
    @BadgerBoy59 Рік тому +51

    As an English man living in Scotland, I'm all in favour of independence. It's the best opportunity to get away from these cretinous charlatans.

    • @hiramabiff2017
      @hiramabiff2017 Рік тому

      hahaha

    • @MontyCantsin5
      @MontyCantsin5 Рік тому +4

      👍

    • @laurencesmith2199
      @laurencesmith2199 Рік тому +3

      There's now 1 1/2 million English refugees live there , 1 million in '14 . Who were instrumental in the '14 ref. , there's now a movement backing leave this time for much the same reason as you .
      You've brought a lot of life and enthusiasm to the Highlands and Islands , and changed a few parochial attitudes .

    • @joepublic4082
      @joepublic4082 Рік тому

      Dude you are the cretin. The SNP want to join the EU & last I checked that is the antithesis of independence. An unelected body completely unaccountable to any electorate is anti democratic & completely inconsistent with the concept of independence in both theory & practice. 🤨

    • @laurencesmith2199
      @laurencesmith2199 Рік тому

      @@joepublic4082
      Correct , but we'll deal with that when it arises . I think we should go for Russian Federation , they look like they've a future . And Glasgow is the same latitude as Moscow , we could twin .

  • @athenakoios
    @athenakoios Рік тому +10

    No. I predict if Truss wins even Wales will try to leave.

  • @casperwallace9685
    @casperwallace9685 Рік тому +24

    Way to go CH4 at talk about Scottish Independence and most guests unionists....Typical.

    • @alanbbrady8196
      @alanbbrady8196 Рік тому +2

      What did you expect?
      A fair and unbiased media?

    • @casperwallace9685
      @casperwallace9685 Рік тому +2

      @@alanbbrady8196 Fair and unbiased News Broadcasters
      The 50,000 Faroese enjoy 3 home grown newspapers, 6 radio channels and a dedicated Faroes TV channel with international reporting.
      --------
      Europe's poorest country, Moldova, has 3 dedicated TV news channels.
      ------------
      Romania has 8 - 24-hour news channels, It’s the most in Europe.
      -----------
      Catalan Independence Movement can get 1 million on to the streets at any one time? How, I hear you ask, simple they have 15 dedicated Radio Stations, 5 TV Stations and total control over the media in Catalonia.
      Scotland doesn't, they have NO TV stations, have NO newspapers (part of one since 2015) NO radio stations either which Scotland can control to get the message out.
      That's 99% of media AGAINST Scottish independence IN Scotland.
      Its sad you think that's an ok situation/behaviour, UK is more like Russia, NK, or China.....

    • @natenae8635
      @natenae8635 Рік тому

      @@casperwallace9685 Misinformation

    • @casperwallace9685
      @casperwallace9685 Рік тому

      @@natenae8635 Whose

  • @jedinite241
    @jedinite241 Рік тому +10

    BREXIT - "The gift that keeps on giving"

  • @lauralishes1
    @lauralishes1 Рік тому +7

    I was there, this must have been early as it got packed with protesters by the time the hustings was near to starting. I'm sick of being demeaned and threatened by the Tories. We need out this union, I love English people, just not Tories. Move here and help us win our independence. The Scottish government has done a lot to mitigate cruel Tory policies with the limited powers they have.

  • @gamingdxg
    @gamingdxg Рік тому +4

    *Y E S F O R S C O T T I S H I N D E P E N D E N C E*

  • @siadali7673
    @siadali7673 Рік тому +16

    Scotland need to decide there own future

    • @The_Phoenix_Saga
      @The_Phoenix_Saga Рік тому +1

      Yeah l agree - I'll be interested to see how quick they'll sell themselves out upon the realisation of bankruptcy in a country that no longer has a currency.

    • @briancarton1804
      @briancarton1804 Рік тому +5

      @@The_Phoenix_Saga Ireland was the poorest country in the so called United Kingdom. It had the worst slums in Europe under British rule.
      The country has come on in leaps and bounds since our hard won independence.
      London never cared about the Irish people.
      London only ever cared about what it could use Ireland for its own benefits.
      Same applies to Scotland. Might be a difficult start for an independent Scotland but long term it will be much better.

    • @b62boom1
      @b62boom1 Рік тому +1

      @@The_Phoenix_Saga the Pound has so devalued since Brexit, it's on the same standing as the Peso, and in the same class as newly emerging currencies. As the biggest trading block in the world uses the Euro, which is worth loads more than the Pound, and is more stable, Scotland would probably adopt that. It's insignificant in the independence question though.

    • @The_Phoenix_Saga
      @The_Phoenix_Saga Рік тому +1

      @@briancarton1804 "Hard won independence" which was quickly surrendered to the EU... How's the Lisbon treaty going by the way?

    • @lion73266
      @lion73266 Рік тому

      @@b62boom1 the exchange rate of the £ to the Euro , has not dropped at all.... Don't type bull

  • @user-hn6gj9jt6l
    @user-hn6gj9jt6l Рік тому +5

    support Scottish independence

  • @annemoncrieff3875
    @annemoncrieff3875 Рік тому +7

    ONCE AND FOR ALL. THE SNP MANDATE IN 2019 WAS TO HOLD ANOTHER REFERENDUM IN THE NEXT SESSION OF GOVMT. OCT 2023 WILL BE HALF WAY THRU THAT SESSION. THERE HAS TO BE A REFERENDUM.

    • @Ksu_
      @Ksu_ Рік тому +2

      exactly

  • @rebeccamann5617
    @rebeccamann5617 Рік тому +4

    It’s funny how the Tories see a need to save the Union but at the same time will not allow Scotland to leave the Union, so what needs saving? Am I missing something?

    • @Rokstar1983
      @Rokstar1983 Рік тому +1

      They're just desperately trying to stop England going down the shitter after Scotland breaks up the UK. Good luck with that, Liz 🤣🤣😉

  • @gottmituns813
    @gottmituns813 Рік тому +6

    Scotland deserve independence.

  • @MontyCantsin5
    @MontyCantsin5 Рік тому +35

    2:51: A message from a Tory leader that resonates with Scotland and that requires savvy and nuance to deliver? Truss or Sunak will definitely be able to do that. 🤣
    As for that poor Conservative councillor who thinks Truss has something 'special' about her, what a deluded fool.

    • @Tao_Tology
      @Tao_Tology Рік тому

      truss and sunak are both awful options........but they are right to call out the snp.

    • @laurencesmith2199
      @laurencesmith2199 Рік тому +1

      He knew her as Fully Equipped of St Johns Wood , appt only .

    • @MontyCantsin5
      @MontyCantsin5 Рік тому +6

      @@Tao_Tology: They will do nothing but increase support for Scottish independence.

    • @SSJfraz
      @SSJfraz Рік тому +7

      @@Tao_Tology Call out the SNP on what? Following their manifesto commitments that they keep getting re-elected on?

    • @laurencesmith2199
      @laurencesmith2199 Рік тому +3

      @@Tao_Tology
      I'm no a fan of them , but as govts go mate they've done a bang-up job . That's why in 2015 the had a world record landslide 56/59 seats . We had 1 Labour , 1 Tory and 1 Libdem . We had more Pandas than opposition MPs .
      So what's awful ?

  • @Fredmayve
    @Fredmayve Рік тому +8

    Today's Sunday Times poll shows that for the first time a majority in Northern Ireland wants a united Ireland . Thank you Liz Truss - you appear to have achieved something even B.Johnson was not able to do.

  • @billmacleod6169
    @billmacleod6169 Рік тому +6

    Why is Murdo Fraser lying through his teeth...oh I forgot, he's a Tory.

    • @callmebeth
      @callmebeth Рік тому

      You know when a Tory is lying, their lips move

  • @Nick-kb6jd
    @Nick-kb6jd Рік тому +7

    Scotland has LOADS of water.

    • @callmebeth
      @callmebeth Рік тому +1

      We actually haver more water in Loch Ness than there is in the whole of England

    • @davidty2006
      @davidty2006 Рік тому

      Yeah...
      Some of that is used to hide a secret weapon.

  • @Andy-ie1zg
    @Andy-ie1zg Рік тому +8

    Dereliction of duty. Mr,I really think you should take a good look at what your party has been doing for the past 12years and by the way the electorate have not voted either Tory candidate with there policies into government, the Tory party are! Utter arrogance!

  • @WhichDoctor1
    @WhichDoctor1 Рік тому +4

    It’s soo funny all these Tory’s saying how Scottish independence is a distraction from solving the challenges the Scottish people are facing. Well maybe if any single one of them were even pretending to care about the challenges the Scottish people are facing, let alone doing anything real to help them, then independence wouldn’t be such an issue. Just a thought

  • @julianshepherd2038
    @julianshepherd2038 Рік тому +10

    Twa cheeks o the same erse

  • @TomTheLadiesMan
    @TomTheLadiesMan Рік тому +5

    Independence for Scotland is an inevitability since Brexit it’s not a question of if but when.

    • @ScottishRoss27
      @ScottishRoss27 Рік тому +1

      Adam Smith is considered ''the father of capitalism''
      EU Market 450 mil consumers

    • @TomTheLadiesMan
      @TomTheLadiesMan Рік тому +1

      @@ScottishRoss27 it’s a shame because I think there’s a lot to be said for the union. But I can’t blame Scotland for wanting to jump the sinking ship.

    • @dabs4077
      @dabs4077 Рік тому +1

      @@TomTheLadiesMan The problem in the union is England. Selfishness and content for others. That's what has killed the "union" .The union has been dead for far too long now and it's time for the 4 countries to go their separate ways ( like in a bad marriage, it can only go for so long before it gets nasty...).

  • @kostasaivaliotis1888
    @kostasaivaliotis1888 Рік тому +30

    Scottish independence is a matter of time. Either the Westminster government likes it or not.

    • @The_Phoenix_Saga
      @The_Phoenix_Saga Рік тому +4

      "Independence", bankruptcy, no currency and destitution with no accessible resources and businesses. Yeah, good luck with that, Kostas.

    • @mikewalrus4763
      @mikewalrus4763 Рік тому +6

      A matter of time eh? Another person with a fine Scottish name? Talking about time? I think the Scots who wanted to be part of this in the first place have had more than enough time! What about English Independence?

    • @alisdairmclean8605
      @alisdairmclean8605 Рік тому +2

      @@The_Phoenix_Saga You mean like all the other 146 countries that have gained their independence since WW2.

    • @cheeseonion5117
      @cheeseonion5117 Рік тому

      @@The_Phoenix_Saga To what are you referring when you talk of these things?

    • @jonathansimmons5353
      @jonathansimmons5353 Рік тому

      Aye laddie!-
      The snp stick it to them in this interview!
      ------>ua-cam.com/video/MJiq3Y4c4C0/v-deo.html

  • @stuartforsyth4279
    @stuartforsyth4279 Рік тому +3

    If we were such a financial burden they would jettisoned us years ago

  • @ultanbeare
    @ultanbeare Рік тому +7

    More Westminster ignores the call for Scottish independence referendum 2 bigger the demand for independence is going to bare fruit .. scottish independence is a certainty .

    • @haruhisuzumiya6650
      @haruhisuzumiya6650 Рік тому

      The ultimate certainty is that the voices will get louder if you ignore the issue.
      Scottish independence is the pinnacle of self determination

  • @gavinreid9184
    @gavinreid9184 Рік тому +8

    I do not see the SNP as Scottish independence . That will be established by the governments after independence. I am not alone, support for parties supporting a brake up of the union has been steady or grown since 2014 despite the record in government of the SNP.

  • @End-Result
    @End-Result Рік тому +10

    “Liz Truss is for many people a blank canvass”
    Never was a truer statement made by a tory politician

  • @scl6747
    @scl6747 Рік тому +3

    Liz Truss and Rishi Sunak to replace BoJo the clown ? It’s like realising you’ve shat your pants, and then changing your vest

  • @jeremywilson2875
    @jeremywilson2875 Рік тому +5

    What might have changed since 2014 that might make a new independence vote warranted? What could it be...

    • @davidty2006
      @davidty2006 Рік тому +3

      Hmmm well really multiple things...

    • @The_Phoenix_Saga
      @The_Phoenix_Saga Рік тому

      Nothing really Nicola didn't get her way so she's kept sulking.

    • @verabolton
      @verabolton Рік тому

      She called it a "once-in-a-lifetime", didn't she? If they repeat their referendum, then Brexit vote should be repeated as well in the whole UK. Just to make sure we're still happy to be out of the EU.

  • @dave81958
    @dave81958 Рік тому +3

    Chapter 1, Article 1 of the UN. That is what it will come down to. It is not a union when one side overrides the other.

  • @daedaluscenter2825
    @daedaluscenter2825 Рік тому +5

    the Union is already broken there is a border between NI and GB.

  • @Roberto-Antonio
    @Roberto-Antonio Рік тому +2

    Why are the English so upset with Scotland's push for Independence? It's their business if they want to leave the UK. Why should Scotland care what Westminster thinks? England doesn't own Scotland. If one partner wants a divorce, it's always best to just let them go. It's a Union not a Territorial Possession.

  • @SuperTonyony
    @SuperTonyony Рік тому +1

    A married couple can divorce, but a nation can't? That's asinine.

  • @samcarena4702
    @samcarena4702 Рік тому +4

    I am disgusted by that audio tape

  • @edin-burgher2881
    @edin-burgher2881 Рік тому +3

    It's not up to the sociopathic billionaire or the psychopathic cheese-woman. Scotland will have its independence vote, whatever the democracy-deniers and -abusers may like to think. Tories have not won an election in Scotland since the 1950's and, following Johnson, Truss will only help the indy cause. Democracy will not be denied and westminster rules are trumped by international law and by UN charter on self-determination.

    • @kryoboy2.074
      @kryoboy2.074 Рік тому +1

      Fucking get in there ya dancer UN charter should intervene👌that would be beautiful seeing England rage at this.
      😂Checkmate the Morris dancers
      Saor alba brother.
      👍From dundee

  • @techtinkerin
    @techtinkerin Рік тому +1

    Standard, they'd rather take a dump backwards than give Scotland back to the Scottish. Time will tell.

  • @ukulelelab4219
    @ukulelelab4219 Рік тому +2

    more graft from workers? We need more brain cells and less arrogance from tory ministers. Bring on general elections.

  • @pessimisticbengali265
    @pessimisticbengali265 Рік тому +5

    so they are going to ignore democratically elected officials of Scotland.. wow!

    • @kethughes8266
      @kethughes8266 Рік тому +1

      So they are going to ignore the recent Scottish independence referendum wow

    • @Rb39-ej5hh
      @Rb39-ej5hh Рік тому

      @@kethughes8266 Do you know people change their minds?

    • @kethughes8266
      @kethughes8266 Рік тому +1

      @@Rb39-ej5hh Yes they do unless they vote yes to independence in which case they will never be asked again.Vote remain it's neverendums vote leave and it's neveragaindums and everyone knows it.

    • @Rb39-ej5hh
      @Rb39-ej5hh Рік тому

      @@kethughes8266 If Independence happens and it becomes such a disaster that the Scottish electorate vote in a parliamentary majority for a referendum to rejoin the UK, that referendum would also have a democratic mandate.

    • @kethughes8266
      @kethughes8266 Рік тому +1

      @@Rb39-ej5hh Good luck with that after changing the currency,DVLA,passports,taxation system,NHS,squabbling over assets and separating the national debt etc and assuming the UK wants Scotland back.It may even require a UK referendum.Frankly I doubt it will happen.

  • @tomwaller6893
    @tomwaller6893 Рік тому +23

    11 min and 3 seconds, and not a single Scottish Pro EU and Pro Scottish independence voter were interviewed. We CU Unionists, and when Independent Scotland takes back control over Broadcasting in OUR country, we will judge you by your coverage of the majority of the people of Scotland who can only join the EU by divorcing English taxation and rule. Scotland can not afford Westminster or the Monarchy.

    • @aleph8888
      @aleph8888 Рік тому +1

      SNP didn’t have a plan for Scotland to join the EU in 2014 and eight years later they still don’t. No analysis, just emotional reflexivism

    • @joshhewitt5674
      @joshhewitt5674 Рік тому

      You realise all taxes go to the Scottish government and that’s not even enough to support their policy’s and agendas. Westminster ends up giving them more money from the rest of our taxes to bail Scotland out. So it’s more like Westminster can’t afford Scotland. If by some miracle you get independence you’ll be bankrupt pretty soon after.

    • @jonathansimmons5353
      @jonathansimmons5353 Рік тому

      I'll leave this here..
      Shows those bastads who is the boss man!! Stick it to em snp!!
      ------->ua-cam.com/video/MJiq3Y4c4C0/v-deo.html

    • @SSJfraz
      @SSJfraz Рік тому +2

      @@aleph8888 What "plan" does the SNP require to get Scotland into the EU? It has been made very clear for a number of years now that the European Union would NOT veto Scotland's entry into the EU.

    • @The_Phoenix_Saga
      @The_Phoenix_Saga Рік тому +1

      @@SSJfraz 😂 Explain just how Scotland will be able to afford the conditions of entering that failed bloc - when it's currency will be non existent upon independence and it's debt ratio far too high from what it will be expected to inherit from leaving?
      And so much for "Independent Scotland" if the first thing you'd want to do is go begging to Brussels to have them take over. Oh wait, unsurprising how it's just two fingers up to the English and Sturgeon's jump for a cushy job.

  • @kiezorfc8559
    @kiezorfc8559 Рік тому +2

    We’re struggling with our energy bills because of Westminster as usual it’s England at fault

  • @b34rdy
    @b34rdy Рік тому +2

    Its a bit rich coming from the woman who hasnt done a hard days graft in her puff

  • @Detector1977
    @Detector1977 Рік тому +3

    In the end there will only be isolated little England left...

    • @dabs4077
      @dabs4077 Рік тому +1

      @Orc Hunter 😂.Not even Wales will stick around for long. They will follow suit soon after. No-one can stick with England. No-one!!

  • @donaldmackinnon4621
    @donaldmackinnon4621 Рік тому +2

    never seen a poor tory.

    • @dabs4077
      @dabs4077 Рік тому

      mentally challenged, a lot, Money wise never, you're right...

  • @kierenbuckley370
    @kierenbuckley370 Рік тому +13

    no the "Union" is broken and can never be "fixed" and its all England and the Tories fault

    • @b34rdy
      @b34rdy Рік тому +2

      @@ChristianPatriarchy We havnt voted for the tories since 1955 so yes its broken, it cant be fixed, Westminster do not understand scotland and their needs, probably in the same way they dont understand wales or NI (im not from there so cant comment on their needs but im sure someone from there can answer)

    • @Martooo251
      @Martooo251 Рік тому +2

      @@b34rdy As someone from NI it’s almost guaranteed that an all Ireland will become a reality in the next decade.
      And as others have said it’s mostly the English fault. Their moronic decision to vote for Brexit solely to stop immigration which was never going to work has all but ensured the uk economy is no longer one of the strongest in the world and as businesses start leaving for other European countries so too will Scotland and NI.

    • @b34rdy
      @b34rdy Рік тому +2

      @@Martooo251 Its nice to see people who understand why this is all happening. Its a shame its came to all this tbh but i guess this is life. I do miss the option of being able to work abroad as i did many times and just easily go away.
      Now its just a hassle

    • @masnwrdl0511
      @masnwrdl0511 Рік тому

      @Graeme Roberts Just look at the basic geography and demographics ffs. England is the largest country in UK, and it has a population of 57 million, MORE than TEN times the amount than what Scotland has. England also has 1 megacity (London) and 2 other major cities (Birmingham, Manchester). Where-as Scotland, the next largest country, only has 2 average size cities with a population of 5 million in total. Looking at all of this, OF COURSE England is going to be the dominant country, it's just common sense. Its not that England is "aRrogAnT" or whatever you Europe lickers call us. If you want to become "free" then do it, but you're a lot more free being in the UK then what you would in Europe. You'd be forced to use the euro and you're whole country will be controlled by Brussels. And this is coming from someone who's half Welsh, you're welcome.

  • @regina1892
    @regina1892 Рік тому +2

    Truss will break up the Union! Scotland and Wales will want to leave!

  • @georgerobert4709
    @georgerobert4709 Рік тому +3

    Murdo Fraser is still alive ? Who knew ? Hhahahahaha

  • @gretareinarsson7461
    @gretareinarsson7461 Рік тому +4

    It will be interesting to see how Thick Lizzy will ignore NS when they meet🤔😄

    • @lion73266
      @lion73266 Рік тому

      Liz will sort out thick Krankie, yes I agree with you.

  • @edwardanthony8929
    @edwardanthony8929 Рік тому +1

    Half a decade is 5 years, not 20 or 30. And no it is not a once in a generation.

  • @DarkLordofTheSith_DarthVader
    @DarkLordofTheSith_DarthVader Рік тому +15

    If I cared enough to know they were coming to my hometown I would have got some eggs. Didn't find out until a few hours ago. Probably all sold out anyway. 😂😂

    • @briancarton1804
      @briancarton1804 Рік тому +2

      It's going to take more than eggs, ye might have to start the Scottish Republican Army.
      The English never let territory go without a fight.

  • @angussoutter7824
    @angussoutter7824 Рік тому +3

    Sunak calling the First minister a terrorist 🤔wow

  • @budimargarito989
    @budimargarito989 Рік тому +2

    Scotland much better independent for everything

  • @imrank340
    @imrank340 Рік тому +2

    Liz! She looks haggard it seems the leadership campaign has taken its toll, like running the last lap.

  • @jmca3324
    @jmca3324 Рік тому +1

    Andrew tory Bowie ignoring the fact Scottish Tories stood on a platform to stop a referendum , and lost.

  • @maneshipocrates2264
    @maneshipocrates2264 Рік тому +5

    The Englander gave them an 80-sea majority.

  • @davidhowells5374
    @davidhowells5374 Рік тому +3

    I would embrace the idea that Scotland becomes independent from the shackles of the Union. Especially as Scotland did not vote for Brexit

    • @natenae8635
      @natenae8635 Рік тому

      Yeah the Scottish were totally enslaved

    • @The_Phoenix_Saga
      @The_Phoenix_Saga Рік тому

      Rubbish - when you voted in 14 to remain you accepted the terms of a referendum, UK wide over Brexit.

  • @ericjarvie
    @ericjarvie Рік тому +2

    How many times must it be said that the only vote required to put into effect Scottish indepedance takes place in the Edinburgh Parliament and the mandate for independance has actually increased with even more Scots than ever voting for an nationalist party who have an nationalist majority ambition and manifesto...Truss and Westminster London do not decide on the sovereign status of Scotland...This decision is not made by referendum either its made by Scots MPs...!!

  • @rossib6974
    @rossib6974 Рік тому +2

    Nothing can save England ! Far too gone in the gutter

  • @tompoynton
    @tompoynton Рік тому +3

    This implies the Union actually needs saving

  • @vasantishah9665
    @vasantishah9665 Рік тому +3

    But conservative membership will not allow Rishi to be PM race playing a big part

  • @MrKingmobster
    @MrKingmobster Рік тому +1

    "Almost half a decade ago" talk about trying to make it sound like it was years and years ago when it was only 3 years ago...! 🤦

  • @robbiethepict2783
    @robbiethepict2783 Рік тому +14

    Lower your flags and march straight back to England, stopping at every home you pass by to beg forgiveness for Brexit.

    • @silondon9010
      @silondon9010 Рік тому

      Britain is more than just a star on somebody else's flag

  • @rodgerq
    @rodgerq Рік тому +3

    I have to feel for the poor Scots who like a Tory knee on their neck. I wonder who England would need to ask permission to if they decided they wanted to leave the union 🤔

    • @The_Phoenix_Saga
      @The_Phoenix_Saga Рік тому

      You should know - it was a Scottish Queen who founded it.

  • @kbqvist
    @kbqvist Рік тому +13

    The way the UK is going, can you blame people for trying to save themselves by getting out of the Union?

    • @jonathanwilson8951
      @jonathanwilson8951 Рік тому +2

      Scotland showing their true colours. Jump ship when things get hard. Didnt mind so much at the height of Empire when England showed them the world. Scotland the Ungrateful.

    • @Nick-kb6jd
      @Nick-kb6jd Рік тому +1

      @@jonathanwilson8951 Dramatic.

    • @jonathanwilson8951
      @jonathanwilson8951 Рік тому +1

      @@Nick-kb6jd Accurate is a better description.

    • @Nick-kb6jd
      @Nick-kb6jd Рік тому +1

      @@jonathanwilson8951 Why are things getting hard do you think?

    • @DarkLordofTheSith_DarthVader
      @DarkLordofTheSith_DarthVader Рік тому

      @@jonathanwilson8951 Must be great living in a mansion with alot of money. Here in Scotland we have no fucking choice. Either abide by tories or die. Barely earn enough to live on as it is.

  • @daviel6595
    @daviel6595 Рік тому +2

    Saying thatcher was hero
    Not in Scotland

  • @thomasschodt7691
    @thomasschodt7691 Рік тому +1

    "... sowing division and uncertainty ..."
    sounds exactly like what Brexit has caused....