A good mate here in Aus has owned a Rossi rio grand 30/30 for over a decade and it has been an incredibly reliable and accurate firearm. I’d buy an R95 in an instant
i looked at one today for state forrest work . cant decide on 20 or 16.5 inch barrel. shorter would be handy in that tea tree ya can hardley see through
I hear a lot of people talk down about Rossi. I have a beautiful little Rossi model 68, blued, 3" barrel, i believe later production from the shrouded ejection rod and updated cylinder release. Marked "Amadeo Rossi" in .38 special. My daughter bought a Rossi 92, octagon 24" barrel chambered in .357 mag/.38 special. Ive heard about inconsistent finish in Rossi, but both our guns are beautifully finished, smooth operating guns.
other channels have a hard time balancing the shot volume to the commentary volume but your channel does it exceptionally well. Very nice and pleasant to watch
CBC stands for Compania Brasileira de Cartuchos (Brazilian Cartridge Company) a company founded in 1928 to supply the Brazilian army and they still do this to this day, but they also sell most of the ammunition in our country, it's pretty high quality stuff, but they just sell their 22 LR and WMR rifles here
@@missilpeludo8813 Comparatively, I mean our baseline is Bersa and Taurus as normal and homemade weaponry as low quality, in this regard a CBC and Imbel are pretty alright
CBC ammunition is sold world wide under the "Magtech" label. At least here in Germany all Magtech casings are marked "CBC". And as far as I know, CBC also owns Sellier&Bellot. From what I understand, the quality (and consistency of quality) of Rossi rifles has gone up significantly since CBC took over the production. I own an R92 Rossi made by CBC and it's a very nice lever action, especially considering it costs around half of the likes of Winchester or Marlin.
I`ve put my hands in a couple of those R95s here in Manitoba, and they are outstanding. In a much higher quality of the R92s. I enjoy your channel very much, thanks for all the good info as always.
That design has been around forever, exactly like my Marlin .375 Win. (1978). Straight wall cartridges just have a cool factor, for me anyhow, and a plenty good WI deer rifle.
@@airbornesoldieramerica7125 I think they're awesome, they weren't marketed right or something. I guess a .35 rem is close. But in a Marlin adds a cool factor. They have a little more than a 30-30, not much, but you notice the difference.
@@michaelsicowitz362 Back in that time frame 1 of my uncles and 1 of my brothers got the 375 Win in the model Winchester 94 model. And by coincidence I got the 35 Rem in the 336 Marlin. For knockdown power and energy I think or sounds like the 375 wins on that part of it. Do know the 35 Rem and 30-30 can do the job for like moose hunting at close distances, but read the 375 Win is much more better choice. And ever since these ar-15s became popular, seems like the 35 Rem really lost its popularity. But I don't think the 35 Rem will never be obsolete cause way to many of them out there now.
@@airbornesoldieramerica7125 The .35 rem is better. When first released the .375 was intended a to shoot a hotter 250 gr slug. I have an original box from 1978 of 250s, pristine condition, also 3 boxes of 200. I bought it used, with 4 boxes. One box was missing 13 rounds. I know that gun only had those 13 rounds through it. I kept all 4 boxes in perfect condition. You were wise on the .35, great choice and a little more power. The .375 makes a bigger hole and reloaded could soupup reloads because the Marlin was designed to take it. For whatever reason they dropped the factory 250 loads. Very nice talking with someone who knows this stuff, great choice either way for deer or even larger, heard a few stories I believe about Alaska. Thanks
@@michaelsicowitz362 But also forgot to say, that some of the states, like in Ohio that passed the straight wall cartridges, for deer hunting a few years ago, the 375 Win did make a small comeback.
I purchased the Rossi R95 in 30-30 last year and can attest that is a very well made firearm. In fact I liked it so much that I just purchased another R95 last week in the 45-70 caliber. Great video !
Great review on an excellent quality lever gun USOG! I payed $800 for my R95 Trapper, and it is just as good as any Winchester, Marlin, or Henry I have ever owned or shot. Fit and finish are good quality, accurate, and dependable, go Rossi ! I can't bring myself to adding a scope and see-through rings, kinda defeats the vibe of what a lever gun is supposed to be.
I got a Rossi R95 a while ago. Mike is correct - it’s a really fun lever action, especially in the 16” Trapper version I got. It is a copy of the Marlin 336 with 2 significant differences. First is the extractor that Mike points out. It is a significantly better design than the 19th Century Marlin spring clip dingus. The second difference is that the Rossi has a 1-piece firing pin with a firing pin block that is pushed out of the way by the locking block. IOW the firing pin is blocked until the bolt is locked in place. Marlin uses a 2-piece firing pin that works but is an older and more problematic design. I’ve taken my R95 apart and the metal work is very good where it matters. The barrel is hammer forged (same process Marlin now uses). Both mine and a friend’s are surprisingly accurate. Any rail or scope mount that would fit on a 336 fits on the R95. Personally, I think that the wood is functional but hideous. The stippling doesn’t look good or improve grip much. However, I bought my R95 intending to install a stock and handguard from Ranger Point Precision. Their adjustable stock is excellent. If I had to do it over again, I might just keep the wooden forend and paint it black.
That's a simply fantastic comment. I didn't know about the firing pin - thank you. I wrote Rossi about the checkering. The jungle wood is "beechy" but not really - I agree with you. Anyway - I shot mine more - outstanding real world accuracy and speed. Please write more often.
@@casejasnoch2533I pimped out my R-95 with an adjustable stock and metal handguard from Ranger Point Precision, plus a 2x prism option from Primary Arms (GLX). Half the guys who see it think it’s awesome and the other half start raving about abominations, walnut stocks, the sin of cross bolt safeties, etc 🤣. The adjustable stock is a necessity with any high-mounted optic and it works very nicely. If I had a do-over, I think I’d just paint the forend black…. although the angle foregrip I added is nice for controlling the rifle while cycling the lever.
Thanks Mike. I see you did a short on this rifle and the Mossberg 464. I own both of these. I couldn't justify spending 2K on a ruger model when these Rossi's are just aas good if not better. My friend has the trapper version which I bought. The Accuracy of these R95's is unreal. Slick as all get out. On the Mossberg 464 30-30. I've had mine since 2021. It has taken 3 deer and shoots well under 1MOA. It's by FAR! the most accurate 30-30 I've ever owned and I've owned many. I sold one of my model 94's the last while and it paid for both of these rifles. The Mossberg is my woods rifle and man does it handle great. I've scoped it due to eye issues but it still weighs well under 8lbs. Just an absolute delight and will become one of those legend rifles that people scramble to buy. Mine is the one you showed. Just a lovely rifle. One doesn't have to spend a fortune for either the Rossi or Mossberg (if you can find one). They are truly great. I've handled the new Ruger and I think the Rossi is actually better. But what do I know. thanks.
Sure looks like a great rifle. I'm an amateur collector of lever actions and you can still get a JM Marlin 30-30 for about the same price as this Rossi. That being said, if I wanted one today I could go right to the gun shop and get one instead of chasing auctions and private sales for a Marlin. I believe Americans in particular love lever actions because of the quintessential American cowboy, and I hope it always stays that way!
Hi Mike I like the new Rossi. I have a 92 44 mag Rossi and really like it and have a Browning 92 centennial. All very nice. I really appreciate your videos Mike and keep them coming. I enjoy you very much Mike thank you so much!!
The original Herter's of Waseca, Minnesota was a wonderful emporium of outdoor sporting goods. I still have a Herter's XK3 made-in-Germany M98 Mauser in 6mm Remington and a Herter's Plinker in .22 Hornet.
@@MDformernavalperson I've got the Herter's Guide Manual, fishing books, and How to Get Out of the Rat Race and Live on $10 a Month. The last honestly convinced me to move into the woods and live offgrid which I did in 1980 and never looked back. Also have 3 old Herter's catalogs.
Good job Mike, I mean in talking about the lever action rifle, specifically, the Rossi. I have been telling shooting friends of mine, for some time, that they should buy and try one of these. I have the R92 with an 18 inch barrel chambered in 357. Now there's an enjoyable plinking and target shooting rifle. The R95 in 30-30 is interesting. I'll have to look at one of these very soon. Thanks you for freezing your fingers etc. to show us this,..I appreciate the 'sacrifice' you've made. :)
I own a marlin 1894 and a Rossi Triple Black, i prefer the Rossi, because of quality and precission, thats the reason why i would buy a R95 in 30-30 soon. Thank you for your review an greetings from a German living in France.
Great video my first deer rifle was a used marlin 30/30 I got in 1981 when I was 11 I’m not sure the year it was but the extractor got bent from me being young and shooting fast as can I wish I still had that rifle
Mike , excellent review on your Rossi. Maybe more importantly you properly demonstrated how to run a lever gun while keeping it shouldered. Text book demonstration !!! As an additional footnote I really wish that Winchester would revive the Model 64 as they are ergonomically excellent and certainly have some benefits over the carbine models. Myself I have a 64A that I truly enjoy shooting. I saw your most elegant lever gun video where you show cased a 64A on the table and it was greatly appreciated. The example that I have is absolutely flawless in regards to fit and finish. I would think that if they resurrected the 64 it would be an excellent seller to the discerning Rifleman. Merry Christmas to you and yours !!!
Have wanted a 336SC for a while cause I love the 2/3 magazine tube, but thus Rossi defiantly seems like itll scratch that itch while being much easier to get my hands on
I have a a late 80s, early 90s Rossi 92 stainless in 357/38. Has a tube loading port, the almost square dovetail for rear sight and no safety. Never seen another 357 Magnum with this loading feature. Have heard some bad things about the quality of the early Rossi 92s with feeding different ammunition. Today tried flat faced 38 special usually used for Cowboy Shooting along with full power hollow point 357 Magnum. Worked perfectly for both. So fun to shoot. Wish the new R95 would also come in some of the pistol rounds, would love to use a good variable scope on mine but impossible with a top eject.
Really enjoyable video! I’d be very happy to see a US made Winchester of ANY kind honestly. That said the new Winchester Ranger (Turkish made I believe) alleged 94/22 clone at barely over “4beans” US looks really promising 🍻
I'm in the process of buying one of these for my first firearm, but the ATF put a hold on my background check because I'm under 21 so I'm watching all the videos on it now, and this one might be my favorite
Great video mike,as usual The rossi when it works is a great firearm.read all the reviews on the internet and UA-cam before you buy.way too many problems with qc.my model 92 in 45 colt ran flawless from day one.so happy I ordered a 92 in 38/357.this rifle had so many problems I was ready to use it as a baseball bat to practice with rocks I heard about stocks coming back scratched and recievers too From guns that were sent to rossi for repair.i persevered and refit the rifle myself. This is not a rifle for a noobe to take apart. Without the help from a UA-camr in australia I would never got that rifle backtogether and shooting right I'm not out to bash rossi.better QC is inorder
Thank you Mike. Nice piece of kit. I also do not like the Marlin 336 extractor, partially I suppose, because its appearance brings up unpleasant memories of the AUG Steyr pieces of s___ that I used decades ago. The Rossi looks like an excellent rifle.
Hallo Mike, eine schöne Präsentation von diesem schönen Gewehr.So wie ich es bei dir gesehen habe liegt es gut im Feuer,man kann das Ziel gut im Auge behalten.30-30 ist ein sehr gutes Kaliber für die Jagd aber unsere Jäger hier in Deutschland sind sehr konservativ,und würden einen wegjagen wenn man mit einem Unterhebel Repetierer jagen wollte,mit dem Spruch: „Wir sind doch nicht im wilden Westen“. Da kann man nur sagen das du es gut hast dort in Amerika. Liebe Grüße aus Kandern/ Baden Württemberg….Ich habe vorher im Oberhausen gewohnt,und das ist nicht weit entfernt von Dortmund Helmut
Ruger purchased the rights to the Marlin name and when it came to tooling they found there were still so many operations that Marlin was doing by hand that they decided to go back to the drawing board and use CNC machines as much as possible. Where the original tooling went I'm not sure.
Reminds me very much of the Marlin 1895 45/70. Rossi has always made very affordable SBS and OU shotguns. Both in 20" and 28" barrels and different finishes. Same with lever actions in 357 and 44 Magnum levers. This Rossi in 30/30 looks like no exception. On a side note Mike I'm looking forward to Winchester's return of the 9422 lever in 22LR in a more budget friendly option called the Ranger (how many Winchesters have held that name Ranger?). Great video and thanks for sharing!
Good Video. You are a really good standing shooter. Glad Rossi got the important mechanical aspects of this rifle right. However, not much can compete with the beautiful fit, finish and checkering on a Henry walnut stock- if you are buying a gun for a lifetime (guaranteed); spend the extra on a Henry and be proud of it.
I've always wondered the same question about why European markets don't seem to care about lever actions, especially how often they shoot driven game. You'd think rifles like the Browning BLR in particular would be at least somewhat popular.
Great review and I too like the Rossi's. I have three of their R92's... I already have an old Model 94 that I chambered for 30-30 AI - but it shoots standard 30-30's too. In fact, that's how you form the AI brass... but I've been looking at these because I have the sickness lol
Hope lever actions make a come back. Seems like the lever action rifles are mostly gone now like the 6 or 8 cylinder cars and some of the trucks, and many other things. Now everyone or so many wants an ar-15 in any or in what ever caliber. And so many don't know how good a lever action is !
Hello usog when you mentioned about aiming at the end of the video I think I know what you wanted to say. You maybe wanted to say that the bottom part rear sight you would level them with the front sight if you want to shoot further than you would use more front grain on your rear sight not sure if that makes sense ? lol and depending where you zeroed at on your ladder 🪜 to use more grain or less is that makes sense. It’s sorta tricky to say in a text
@Joe-nr9xf I don't own the rifle, but I will ask him tomorrow. He lives in Indiana and those were popular for whitetails before they legalized high powered rifles.
I have about 10 tins of caps. I use cci number 11 caps for hunting or formal target shooting. For plinking I use my own homemade caps. I make the caps from 22 LR. Do you use roundball in that revolver?
My Gun Dealer who is from Lakefield Ontario says Savage is going to start production of lever action rifles in his home town. So we're about to see another lever rifle in the equation on the distant horizon. Hopefully they aren't just .22's.
Pumps action are the faster manual action. Lever action ya still gota break your rear hand hold to operate the lever. With a pump you just run it in original hand position. Pump is faster then straight pull or lever action.
You're right - nothing faster than a pump. My 760 remains the manual speed champ for me; or maybe the Colt Lightning. They're so fast that some countries ban them along with semis - yet leave the levers be. Cheers
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns You should do a video on the Browning pump rifle. They were smoother than the Remingtons, but rare today. I bought mine back in the late 1990’s and it’s been a great rifle. 👍
Another outstanding video. Mike, I saw a video you did with the Howa Mini action in 6.5 Grendel. In that video you mentioned someone that 3D prints 10 round magazines from Winnepeg I believe. Can you send me his info so I can purchase some of those magazines? I just picked up a Howa mini in 7.62x39. Thank you in advance for the info and keep up the informative videos.
I've always liked Rossi, but you can escape the cross bolt safety with a Henry. They have a transfer bar system that works really well. I even prefer it to the old half cock system. You can safely keep a live round in the chamber with the hammer down
Hello - The 1890 remains a favorite of mine - but I don't own one at the moment. I have an Uberti Lightning in .357 Mag - it runs so fast and smooth - I'll make a video.
You said lever actions are not popular in Europe, which is true for hunters. I can only speak for Germany, but there are strict laws about minimum power factors for hunting and I don't think any lever action cartridge except .45-70 will make these minimum power factors. I've talked to German hunters who actually use short .45-70 lever actions for driven hunts on wild boar. But now let's talk about sport shooters in Germany - they all *love* lever actions! Everybody has at least one lever action in their safe. One reason being that they are just easy to buy because they're not semi-auto (once you got a permit, you can buy them with no further ado), the other reason is that they're just cool and iconic guns.
Wow! Good video Mike! {I just bought a box of .30-30, 170 grains yesterday and a box of .303 British at the local Lawnmower shop in town.} I almost did not watch it because I saw the name "Rossi" in the title. Back in 1974/75 I bought my younger sister a Rossi 20 gauge single-shot, break-open shotgun so she could go to the Trap range with me and shoot some clay birds. Each time she pulled the trigger, the fore-end popped lose/off the gun. ☹VERY not good. From the looks of it and the hits on that white "pie-plate" that Rossi R95 Lever-action is far better made than my sister's junko Rossi 20 gauge from 1974. It is obviously from the Marlin 336 family / design-mind of Lever-action rifles with the good solid top and bolt. Much better than the open top Winchester model 94. You shot well, and you are very correct to shoot standing up. I doubt very much that a game animal is going to stand still while somebody sits at a bench with a high-priced telescope on their high-priced benchrest rifle sitting in a "lead-sled" rest. P.S. Sticker Shock!!! I just looked around the internet and that Rossi R95 is priced in the mid $900 range before the tax man takes his share. 🤕🙁 Yikes! For something made in Brazil (where I doubt the factory workers can afford their own products) , and is not checkered,,,, it should be closer to $375. to $450. maximum.
Well, it’s not that we europeans don’t like lever actions… speaking for my and surrounding countries, a minimum amount of energy at 100 yards must be used by law for hunting. 30-30 can be used for roe deer and fox. But the rapid reload is only necessary for boar or deer (as in most places you are not allowed to do moving shots on roe deer). 45-70 is an option (barely legal since most rounds only make just above 2200 joules at 100m) but then again you’d be hard pressed to find hunting ammo (not allowed to shoot non-partition or mushroom rounds) in most countries…
Maybe the only thing faster than a slick lever, is a pump/slide action rifle. Something like a Remington 760. .30-30 is better today than it ever has been. Originally made in the late 1800's, the cartridge would move a 160gr bullet just shy of 2,000 fps...which was cooking at that time. Today, you can buy Buffalo Bore 190gr loads that will push 2100 fps, which is the tops for the cartridge currently. As far as reaching out, the Hornady FTX load (Leverevolution) will extend typical impact energy about 100 yards further out, requiring a scope for the most part.
Excellent post. I've been writing various makers for years : to offer a new edition pump 30-30. I thought Remington would at one point - a 760 just as you suggest; yet that didn't happen. Maybe someone will - maybe Henry.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns Henry has a slide action .22. The independent reviews are mixed about it. Slide action rifles seem basically obsolete these days, outside rimfire. I think a rimmed rifle cartridge tube-fed slide action .30-30 or other rimmed variants would be excellent. Maybe toss the suggestion over to Marlin/Ruger. Rossi seems like the lower cost replica maker of today, maybe they'd design one.
somebody has to invent a tube that holds 4 rounds to jam into the loading gate for ease of short stroke reloading and thumb-operated and you could carry several of them easy. would work with frozen fingers and bulky mittens etc. COMEON you old boredom, tinkering, stuck in a rut old timers.!!! Maybe have a worldwide contest to develop variations?
I recently acquired a 1921 manufacture 1894. It’s in pretty close to mint shape. When the hammer is cocked, it’s slicker than snot, but to actually cock it without gloves, I find it a little bit hard. Anyone know if that the way it is, or is there something going on? And for the buckhorn sights, if you could devise a way to do a video, I’d really be interested. I’ve only dealt with one once, and hated it, but now I’m thinking I just didn’t know. With my experience I just love the European square post and slot, but I know for animals amd not targets, it’s maybe not that great
I bought one of these to "celebrate" "government theft day" (tax day) this year. My first 30-30, and second lever action (the other is my late grandfather's Savage Model 99).
I admire reliability over all else, any firearm that doesn't fail me is for me. I owned a Remington made Marlin what a disgrace. Think I'll stick to my Ruger No3
Wow - I thought I was the only one on the planet. My #3 is a steadfast companion. I helped a friend with a coyote issue a few days ago. .375 Win #3 - my #3 speaks once.
I know many people who own Rossi's, and they would disagree with you about there quality. Some are good, but they have more than a fair share of guns with issues. Extraction and ejection are 2 issues, fit and finish is often not very good. I looked at 2, at 2 different outlets, and both had the same issues: rear sights so loose they were basically useless, wood to metal finish wass very poor, one had a bent front sight, the other, is was very difficult to close the lever. So, I passed, and have never considered on again
Thanks for sharing - I'm always happy to hear people's experiences and opinions; whether they agree or not. I've owned so many guns made by so many makers; some of them worth many thousands and I've encountered assembly problems, parts problems, fitting problems in just about ever type. I don't mind - keeps life interesting. I realize most people want flawless though - and they're probably right. All the best.
Ordered a 30-30 through my gun guy about a month ago. Trigger was absolute garbage, my dealer sent it right back to Rossi. Beware with Rossi. We RMA'd another Rossi previously, it was a R92 357...wouldn't load worth a shit. Only R92 I had good experience with was the R92 45 LC. That company is NOT what it used to be.
Guys, those are great points. But it seems weird there weren't more military lever actions in the late 1860-70s before those issues were realized. I'm thinking also maybe because the lever repeater was an American invention/tradition while the Europeans already preferred the bolt action because of the Dreyse, Chasspott needle guns, etc. But obviously the bolt was a better military arm.
But with that tube loading, you are obliged to use no self primer striking ammo as the 30-30 . Just reminds me that the local gun shop has a new BLR in 30-06 for 1050€ .
Thanks for sharing that info. I remember the first rifle I owned with that extractor system was an experimental Mauser rifle going back to Paul Mauser's time. He abandoned that system in favor of the claw for military reasons and CRF; but many companies adopted it over the decades including Sako and somehow the Mauser design ended up being called "the Sako extractor." Anyway, interesting observation about the Rossi application of that extractor - I'll study it more. All the best and good shooting.
A good mate here in Aus has owned a Rossi rio grand 30/30 for over a decade and it has been an incredibly reliable and accurate firearm. I’d buy an R95 in an instant
Thanks Mate!
I have a Rio in 45-70. Accurate enough to plink steel at 200 off hand with Buckhorns. Probably do 300 if I was capable.
i looked at one today for state forrest work . cant decide on 20 or 16.5 inch barrel. shorter would be handy in that tea tree ya can hardley see through
I love your presentation. Could listen to you all day! Excellent content!
I hear a lot of people talk down about Rossi. I have a beautiful little Rossi model 68, blued, 3" barrel, i believe later production from the shrouded ejection rod and updated cylinder release. Marked "Amadeo Rossi" in .38 special. My daughter bought a Rossi 92, octagon 24" barrel chambered in .357 mag/.38 special. Ive heard about inconsistent finish in Rossi, but both our guns are beautifully finished, smooth operating guns.
This video is one of the reasons I now own a Rossi R95 in 45-70. Thanks for the review.
I'm glad the video was okay. Good call on the Rossi 45-70!
other channels have a hard time balancing the shot volume to the commentary volume but your channel does it exceptionally well. Very nice and pleasant to watch
Thank you!
CBC stands for Compania Brasileira de Cartuchos (Brazilian Cartridge Company) a company founded in 1928 to supply the Brazilian army and they still do this to this day, but they also sell most of the ammunition in our country, it's pretty high quality stuff, but they just sell their 22 LR and WMR rifles here
It’s good , really good!
Not even close to “high quality “
@@missilpeludo8813 Comparatively, I mean our baseline is Bersa and Taurus as normal and homemade weaponry as low quality, in this regard a CBC and Imbel are pretty alright
Nice
CBC ammunition is sold world wide under the "Magtech" label. At least here in Germany all Magtech casings are marked "CBC". And as far as I know, CBC also owns Sellier&Bellot.
From what I understand, the quality (and consistency of quality) of Rossi rifles has gone up significantly since CBC took over the production. I own an R92 Rossi made by CBC and it's a very nice lever action, especially considering it costs around half of the likes of Winchester or Marlin.
@@maximilianmustermann5763 CBC also own Taurus, and recently their gun quality is also improving
You can tell by the sound of the action how smooth it is. Great video and nice to see you enjoyed the shooting even though it was cold.
I just ordered the R95 yesterday. I love what I've heard and seen so far about it.
Appreciate the video.
Cheers
Do you love it? I ordered one tonight.
I`ve put my hands in a couple of those R95s here in Manitoba, and they are outstanding. In a much higher quality of the R92s. I enjoy your channel very much, thanks for all the good info as always.
That's some great instinctive offhand shooting in my book, well done.
Thank you!
agree , even a baby hog is in real trouble at that range
That design has been around forever, exactly like my Marlin .375 Win. (1978). Straight wall cartridges just have a cool factor, for me anyhow, and a plenty good WI deer rifle.
I kick myself from not getting a 375 back then.
@@airbornesoldieramerica7125 I think they're awesome, they weren't marketed right or something. I guess a .35 rem is close. But in a Marlin adds a cool factor. They have a little more than a 30-30, not much, but you notice the difference.
@@michaelsicowitz362 Back in that time frame 1 of my uncles and 1 of my brothers got the 375 Win in the model Winchester 94 model. And by coincidence I got the 35 Rem in the 336 Marlin. For knockdown power and energy I think or sounds like the 375 wins on that part of it. Do know the 35 Rem and 30-30 can do the job for like moose hunting at close distances, but read the 375 Win is much more better choice. And ever since these ar-15s became popular, seems like the 35 Rem really lost its popularity. But I don't think the 35 Rem will never be obsolete cause way to many of them out there now.
@@airbornesoldieramerica7125 The .35 rem is better. When first released the .375 was intended a to shoot a hotter 250 gr slug. I have an original box from 1978 of 250s, pristine condition, also 3 boxes of 200. I bought it used, with 4 boxes. One box was missing 13 rounds. I know that gun only had those 13 rounds through it. I kept all 4 boxes in perfect condition. You were wise on the .35, great choice and a little more power. The .375 makes a bigger hole and reloaded could soupup reloads because the Marlin was designed to take it. For whatever reason they dropped the factory 250 loads. Very nice talking with someone who knows this stuff, great choice either way for deer or even larger, heard a few stories I believe about Alaska. Thanks
@@michaelsicowitz362 But also forgot to say, that some of the states, like in Ohio that passed the straight wall cartridges, for deer hunting a few years ago, the 375 Win did make a small comeback.
Not long ago, lever actions were ignored. I've been hunting with a Marlin 336 in 30/30 for over 25 years. Great review of the Rossi!
Thank you - I heard a lever in 6.5 CM is in development; the BLR sets a high standard - we'll see.
I purchased the Rossi R95 in 30-30 last year and can attest that is a very well made firearm. In fact I liked it so much that I just purchased another R95 last week in the 45-70 caliber. Great video !
I'll be buying one
awesome, planning to do the same
As always a great review, you cant beat a 30-30!
You have been one of my favorite UA-cam gun guys 😊thank you
Great review on an excellent quality lever gun USOG! I payed $800 for my R95 Trapper, and it is just as good as any Winchester, Marlin, or Henry I have ever owned or shot. Fit and finish are good quality, accurate, and dependable, go Rossi ! I can't bring myself to adding a scope and see-through rings, kinda defeats the vibe of what a lever gun is supposed to be.
I got a Rossi R95 a while ago. Mike is correct - it’s a really fun lever action, especially in the 16” Trapper version I got.
It is a copy of the Marlin 336 with 2 significant differences. First is the extractor that Mike points out. It is a significantly better design than the 19th Century Marlin spring clip dingus. The second difference is that the Rossi has a 1-piece firing pin with a firing pin block that is pushed out of the way by the locking block. IOW the firing pin is blocked until the bolt is locked in place. Marlin uses a 2-piece firing pin that works but is an older and more problematic design.
I’ve taken my R95 apart and the metal work is very good where it matters. The barrel is hammer forged (same process Marlin now uses). Both mine and a friend’s are surprisingly accurate. Any rail or scope mount that would fit on a 336 fits on the R95.
Personally, I think that the wood is functional but hideous. The stippling doesn’t look good or improve grip much. However, I bought my R95 intending to install a stock and handguard from Ranger Point Precision. Their adjustable stock is excellent. If I had to do it over again, I might just keep the wooden forend and paint it black.
That's a simply fantastic comment. I didn't know about the firing pin - thank you. I wrote Rossi about the checkering. The jungle wood is "beechy" but not really - I agree with you. Anyway - I shot mine more - outstanding real world accuracy and speed. Please write more often.
What ammo does your trapper like?
@@casejasnoch2533 honestly I’ve just shot Remington RNFP and some handloads in it. Plenty accurate for gallon water jugs at 50 yards.
@@chipsterb4946 pretty impressive gun. I like a few improvements on it. I really like that you can unload it from the side gate.
@@casejasnoch2533I pimped out my R-95 with an adjustable stock and metal handguard from Ranger Point Precision, plus a 2x prism option from Primary Arms (GLX). Half the guys who see it think it’s awesome and the other half start raving about abominations, walnut stocks, the sin of cross bolt safeties, etc 🤣. The adjustable stock is a necessity with any high-mounted optic and it works very nicely. If I had a do-over, I think I’d just paint the forend black…. although the angle foregrip I added is nice for controlling the rifle while cycling the lever.
Thanks Mike. I see you did a short on this rifle and the Mossberg 464. I own both of these. I couldn't justify spending 2K on a ruger model when these Rossi's are just aas good if not better. My friend has the trapper version which I bought. The Accuracy of these R95's is unreal. Slick as all get out.
On the Mossberg 464 30-30. I've had mine since 2021. It has taken 3 deer and shoots well under 1MOA. It's by FAR! the most accurate 30-30 I've ever owned and I've owned many.
I sold one of my model 94's the last while and it paid for both of these rifles.
The Mossberg is my woods rifle and man does it handle great. I've scoped it due to eye issues but it still weighs well under 8lbs. Just an absolute delight and will become one of those legend rifles that people scramble to buy. Mine is the one you showed. Just a lovely rifle.
One doesn't have to spend a fortune for either the Rossi or Mossberg (if you can find one). They are truly great. I've handled the new Ruger and I think the Rossi is actually better. But what do I know.
thanks.
I think you know a lot. Great post!
Sure looks like a great rifle. I'm an amateur collector of lever actions and you can still get a JM Marlin 30-30 for about the same price as this Rossi. That being said, if I wanted one today I could go right to the gun shop and get one instead of chasing auctions and private sales for a Marlin. I believe Americans in particular love lever actions because of the quintessential American cowboy, and I hope it always stays that way!
They used to sell them at wal mart for $200 lol
Hi Mike I like the new Rossi. I have a 92 44 mag Rossi and really like it and have a Browning 92 centennial. All very nice. I really appreciate your videos Mike and keep them coming. I enjoy you very much Mike thank you so much!!
Perfect review for a gun i was considering getting!
Thank you!
The original Herter's of Waseca, Minnesota was a wonderful emporium of outdoor sporting goods. I still have a Herter's XK3 made-in-Germany M98 Mauser in 6mm Remington and a Herter's Plinker in .22 Hornet.
True. They also published books on bushcraft, hunting, etc. Loved their catalogs with the "Herter Model Perfect..." (hunting knife, bow, etc., etc.
@@MDformernavalperson I've got the Herter's Guide Manual, fishing books, and How to Get Out of the Rat Race and Live on $10 a Month. The last honestly convinced me to move into the woods and live offgrid which I did in 1980 and never looked back. Also have 3 old Herter's catalogs.
@@MDformernavalpersonLooking at my herters no. 81 catalog. Wish they and old times.were back.
Good job Mike, I mean in talking about the lever action rifle, specifically, the Rossi. I have been telling shooting friends of mine, for some time, that they should buy and try one of these.
I have the R92 with an 18 inch barrel chambered in 357. Now there's an enjoyable plinking and target shooting rifle.
The R95 in 30-30 is interesting. I'll have to look at one of these very soon.
Thanks you for freezing your fingers etc. to show us this,..I appreciate the 'sacrifice' you've made. :)
I own a marlin 1894 and a Rossi Triple Black, i prefer the Rossi, because of quality and precission, thats the reason why i would buy a R95 in 30-30 soon. Thank you for your review an greetings from a German living in France.
Greetings to you - you're right - the R95 is an excellent value and a success with buyers. I receive nothing but high praise for them. Mach's gut.
Just bought one of the Trapper models last month and placed a spare Leupold scope I had on it. Plan to use it next deer season.
Good on you - can't go wrong; and I like the Trapper as well - looking for a used one.
Great review! Thanks Mike!
Excellent shooting, my friend. Great review also. I hope the rumor is true. God bless you.
Hi Rick! Thank you and God Bless 🙏
Great video
my first deer rifle was a used marlin 30/30 I got in 1981 when I was 11 I’m not sure the year it was but the extractor got bent from me being young and shooting fast as can
I wish I still had that rifle
Thank you - hope you get another : )
too bad ya ditched it, those old extractors are a breeze to replace. probably my favorite rifle to work on.
Great review Sir. I always enjoy your vids and knowledge of firearms.
Mike , excellent review on your Rossi. Maybe more importantly you properly demonstrated how to run a lever gun while keeping it shouldered. Text book demonstration !!! As an additional footnote I really wish that Winchester would revive the Model 64 as they are ergonomically excellent and certainly have some benefits over the carbine models. Myself I have a 64A that I truly enjoy shooting. I saw your most elegant lever gun video where you show cased a 64A on the table and it was greatly appreciated. The example that I have is absolutely flawless in regards to fit and finish. I would think that if they resurrected the 64 it would be an excellent seller to the discerning Rifleman. Merry Christmas to you and yours !!!
Oh, I'm excited for this one!
Sehr gute, looks slick. Checkering would be better, indeed.
Thank you,
Gruss Gott
Chris aus Kanada
I have a Rossi R95 triple black and I absolutely love it. It is so easy to use, easy to wield and easy to lever it.
Gorgeous lever - the R95 3X Black - does everything well
You make the greatest videos. Got my wife one of these rossi 30-30. Wish I got one for myself.
Thank you! Your wife has a fantastic rifle now. All the best to you both.
Just bought a Trapper in 30-30 , great functionality, accuracy, impressive
Good on you! I love the compactness and tubular mag. and everything else.
Thank you for your insightful review.
I think you are a pretty good shot.
Have wanted a 336SC for a while cause I love the 2/3 magazine tube, but thus Rossi defiantly seems like itll scratch that itch while being much easier to get my hands on
I wish a Brazilian rifle company would start making Savage 99 clones--that would be something!
Got handed down a Rossi db hammer 12g ten years ago , proberly had 2 to 3 thousand rds though it by now, birdshot to buckshot. Absolutely reliable.😊
A superb gun to own - made in Brazil no?
I have a a late 80s, early 90s Rossi 92 stainless in 357/38. Has a tube loading port, the almost square dovetail for rear sight and no safety. Never seen another 357 Magnum with this loading feature.
Have heard some bad things about the quality of the early Rossi 92s with feeding different ammunition.
Today tried flat faced 38 special usually used for Cowboy Shooting along with full power hollow point 357 Magnum.
Worked perfectly for both.
So fun to shoot.
Wish the new R95 would also come in some of the pistol rounds, would love to use a good variable scope on mine but impossible with a top eject.
Nice lookin’ rifle… thanks for the review.
Really enjoyable video! I’d be very happy to see a US made Winchester of ANY kind honestly. That said the new Winchester Ranger (Turkish made I believe) alleged 94/22 clone at barely over “4beans” US looks really promising 🍻
I'm in the process of buying one of these for my first firearm, but the ATF put a hold on my background check because I'm under 21 so I'm watching all the videos on it now, and this one might be my favorite
Hello - Can't go wrong with the Rossi - runs slick and fast; you'll like it. Glad you're on my channel and warm welcome!
Nice presentation Mike! I always enjoy your videos.
Thank you!
Well done. I love my Henry Big Boy in .44 mag, but my local fun store has a Rossi R92 in stainless that I may have to take another look at!
Henry is great!
Great video mike,as usual
The rossi when it works is a great firearm.read all the reviews on the internet and UA-cam before you buy.way too many problems with qc.my model 92 in 45 colt ran flawless from day one.so happy I ordered a 92 in 38/357.this rifle had so many problems I was ready to use it as a baseball bat to practice with rocks
I heard about stocks coming back scratched and recievers too
From guns that were sent to rossi for repair.i persevered and refit the rifle myself. This is not a rifle for a noobe to take apart. Without the help from a UA-camr in australia
I would never got that rifle backtogether and shooting right
I'm not out to bash rossi.better QC is inorder
Thank you Mike. Nice piece of kit. I also do not like the Marlin 336 extractor, partially I suppose, because its appearance brings up unpleasant memories of the AUG Steyr pieces of s___ that I used decades ago. The Rossi looks like an excellent rifle.
Hallo Mike,
eine schöne Präsentation von diesem schönen Gewehr.So wie ich es bei dir gesehen habe liegt es gut im Feuer,man kann das Ziel gut im Auge behalten.30-30 ist ein sehr gutes Kaliber für die Jagd aber unsere Jäger hier in Deutschland sind sehr konservativ,und würden einen wegjagen wenn man mit einem Unterhebel Repetierer jagen wollte,mit dem Spruch: „Wir sind doch nicht im wilden Westen“. Da kann man nur sagen das du es gut hast dort in Amerika.
Liebe Grüße aus Kandern/ Baden Württemberg….Ich habe vorher im Oberhausen gewohnt,und das ist nicht weit entfernt von Dortmund
Helmut
We love lever actions in Australia
Sweet rifle and some good shooting! Great vid, thanks!
German ancestry! You‘re always welcome here one the other side of the pond 😊
Ruger purchased the rights to the Marlin name and when it came to tooling they found there were still so many operations that Marlin was doing by hand that they decided to go back to the drawing board and use CNC machines as much as possible. Where the original tooling went I'm not sure.
That's good information. Maybe Rossi did buy the tooling. I like handwork in any gun.
Exactly Freedom group spent a fortune on new tooling since the Marlin tooling, documents and blueprints were so inconsistent@Nick-wn1xw
Reminds me very much of the Marlin 1895 45/70. Rossi has always made very affordable SBS and OU shotguns. Both in 20" and 28" barrels and different finishes. Same with lever actions in 357 and 44 Magnum levers. This Rossi in 30/30 looks like no exception. On a side note Mike I'm looking forward to Winchester's return of the 9422 lever in 22LR in a more budget friendly option called the Ranger (how many Winchesters have held that name Ranger?). Great video and thanks for sharing!
Thank you! I'm on a wait list for the Ranger👍
Good Video. You are a really good standing shooter. Glad Rossi got the important mechanical aspects of this rifle right. However, not much can compete with the beautiful fit, finish and checkering on a Henry walnut stock- if you are buying a gun for a lifetime (guaranteed); spend the extra on a Henry and be proud of it.
I've always wondered the same question about why European markets don't seem to care about lever actions, especially how often they shoot driven game. You'd think rifles like the Browning BLR in particular would be at least somewhat popular.
Great review and I too like the Rossi's. I have three of their R92's... I already have an old Model 94 that I chambered for 30-30 AI - but it shoots standard 30-30's too. In fact, that's how you form the AI brass... but I've been looking at these because I have the sickness lol
Hope lever actions make a come back. Seems like the lever action rifles are mostly gone now like the 6 or 8 cylinder cars and some of the trucks, and many other things. Now everyone or so many wants an ar-15 in any or in what ever caliber. And so many don't know how good a lever action is !
Hello usog when you mentioned about aiming at the end of the video I think I know what you wanted to say. You maybe wanted to say that the bottom part rear sight you would level them with the front sight if you want to shoot further than you would use more front grain on your rear sight not sure if that makes sense ? lol and depending where you zeroed at on your ladder 🪜 to use more grain or less is that makes sense. It’s sorta tricky to say in a text
I picked up one of these last week, mine shoots about 4" low and to the left at 30 yards. But I really like it.
I heard from a couple of other owners as well. I guess the factory may not sight in. Glad you like it - mine is excellent. Cheers.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns thanks for the reply, yeah if I can get it poi right it's a good rifle so far. Thanks for the video too.
Mine did the same thing. I had to file the front sight down to get it decent.
@@casejasnoch2533 i replaced my front sight all together with a real short one that's. .259 tall. Now it's on point.
There are some seriously badass gunsmiths in Brazil there’s a video of an old man making a fully functional shotgun from car parts
Funny, a friend and were talking about a .357 Rossi lever gun he hunts whitetails with and boom this video cones up
R92?
@Joe-nr9xf
I don't own the rifle, but I will ask him tomorrow. He lives in Indiana and those were popular for whitetails before they legalized high powered rifles.
I have about 10 tins of caps. I use cci number 11 caps for hunting or formal target shooting. For plinking I use my own homemade caps. I make the caps from 22 LR. Do you use roundball in that revolver?
My Gun Dealer who is from Lakefield Ontario says Savage is going to start production of lever action rifles in his home town. So we're about to see another lever rifle in the equation on the distant horizon. Hopefully they aren't just .22's.
That's good info. I heard something as well. Your info is more and better. Hopefully Savage 999.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns As long as they don't turn that number upside down! 🙃
Excellent video.
Thank you
Pumps action are the faster manual action. Lever action ya still gota break your rear hand hold to operate the lever. With a pump you just run it in original hand position. Pump is faster then straight pull or lever action.
You're right - nothing faster than a pump. My 760 remains the manual speed champ for me; or maybe the Colt Lightning. They're so fast that some countries ban them along with semis - yet leave the levers be. Cheers
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns You should do a video on the Browning pump rifle. They were smoother than the Remingtons, but rare today. I bought mine back in the late 1990’s and it’s been a great rifle. 👍
Great job .
gotta do a 500 round update, i'd like to see how that extractor holds up.
😳 Wait … you forgot to mention Henry who makes more Lever Action rifles today than anyone else - and they’re made in the USA 🇺🇸
Thanks for the reminder - I'll make a video.
Sounds good 😉👍🏻👍🏻
Sorry if I missed it. Is the R95 drilled for scope mounts?
Hi - Sorry if I didn't mention - yes
Rossi makes great guns ,marlin use to but what is going on with Rugar/ Marlin 's production or lack of it.
Another outstanding video. Mike, I saw a video you did with the Howa Mini action in 6.5 Grendel. In that video you mentioned someone that 3D prints 10 round magazines from Winnepeg I believe. Can you send me his info so I can purchase some of those magazines? I just picked up a Howa mini in 7.62x39. Thank you in advance for the info and keep up the informative videos.
I've always liked Rossi, but you can escape the cross bolt safety with a Henry. They have a transfer bar system that works really well. I even prefer it to the old half cock system. You can safely keep a live round in the chamber with the hammer down
Is the bolt on this Rossi a great one ?
What do you compare the sound of a lever too. Nothing
I agree with you 100%
I read that that sound it makes was adopted by the KKK for their klan name. Koo-Klux Clan.
How do u like the open sights??? Brass bead or just a black front post
Brass bead
I have always been partial to pump guns. I grew up with a Model 1906 (Model 1890) Winchester. Do you have any Colt lightnings to show us?
Hello - The 1890 remains a favorite of mine - but I don't own one at the moment. I have an Uberti Lightning in .357 Mag - it runs so fast and smooth - I'll make a video.
I’ve got to have one.
I would like to see one with a straight stock instead of the pistol grip type.
Exc. Idea
I was told that herrters is re boxed Winchester, made for cabelas.
It is. I've gone through a few boxes of the stuff. It does what WW does.
That makes it even better : )
You said lever actions are not popular in Europe, which is true for hunters. I can only speak for Germany, but there are strict laws about minimum power factors for hunting and I don't think any lever action cartridge except .45-70 will make these minimum power factors. I've talked to German hunters who actually use short .45-70 lever actions for driven hunts on wild boar.
But now let's talk about sport shooters in Germany - they all *love* lever actions! Everybody has at least one lever action in their safe. One reason being that they are just easy to buy because they're not semi-auto (once you got a permit, you can buy them with no further ado), the other reason is that they're just cool and iconic guns.
Wow! Good video Mike! {I just bought a box of .30-30, 170 grains yesterday and a box of .303 British at the local Lawnmower shop in town.}
I almost did not watch it because I saw the name "Rossi" in the title. Back in 1974/75 I bought my younger sister a Rossi 20 gauge single-shot, break-open shotgun so she could go to the Trap range with me and shoot some clay birds. Each time she pulled the trigger, the fore-end popped lose/off the gun. ☹VERY not good. From the looks of it and the hits on that white "pie-plate" that Rossi R95 Lever-action is far better made than my sister's junko Rossi 20 gauge from 1974.
It is obviously from the Marlin 336 family / design-mind of Lever-action rifles with the good solid top and bolt. Much better than the open top Winchester model 94. You shot well, and you are very correct to shoot standing up. I doubt very much that a game animal is going to stand still while somebody sits at a bench with a high-priced telescope on their high-priced benchrest rifle sitting in a "lead-sled" rest.
P.S. Sticker Shock!!! I just looked around the internet and that Rossi R95 is priced in the mid $900 range before the tax man takes his share. 🤕🙁 Yikes! For something made in Brazil (where I doubt the factory workers can afford their own products) , and is not checkered,,,, it should be closer to $375. to $450. maximum.
Beautiful Rifle Rossi Is a Good Quality Rifle and Pistols
Well, it’s not that we europeans don’t like lever actions… speaking for my and surrounding countries, a minimum amount of energy at 100 yards must be used by law for hunting. 30-30 can be used for roe deer and fox. But the rapid reload is only necessary for boar or deer (as in most places you are not allowed to do moving shots on roe deer). 45-70 is an option (barely legal since most rounds only make just above 2200 joules at 100m) but then again you’d be hard pressed to find hunting ammo (not allowed to shoot non-partition or mushroom rounds) in most countries…
Maybe the only thing faster than a slick lever, is a pump/slide action rifle. Something like a Remington 760.
.30-30 is better today than it ever has been. Originally made in the late 1800's, the cartridge would move a 160gr bullet just shy of 2,000 fps...which was cooking at that time. Today, you can buy Buffalo Bore 190gr loads that will push 2100 fps, which is the tops for the cartridge currently. As far as reaching out, the Hornady FTX load (Leverevolution) will extend typical impact energy about 100 yards further out, requiring a scope for the most part.
Excellent post. I've been writing various makers for years : to offer a new edition pump 30-30. I thought Remington would at one point - a 760 just as you suggest; yet that didn't happen. Maybe someone will - maybe Henry.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns Henry has a slide action .22. The independent reviews are mixed about it.
Slide action rifles seem basically obsolete these days, outside rimfire. I think a rimmed rifle cartridge tube-fed slide action .30-30 or other rimmed variants would be excellent. Maybe toss the suggestion over to Marlin/Ruger. Rossi seems like the lower cost replica maker of today, maybe they'd design one.
somebody has to invent a tube that holds 4 rounds to jam into the loading gate for ease of short stroke reloading and thumb-operated and you could carry several of them easy. would work with frozen fingers and bulky mittens etc. COMEON you old boredom, tinkering, stuck in a rut old timers.!!! Maybe have a worldwide contest to develop variations?
They say I need help too, so I wouldn't worry sir......🤣
😂 thank you! I'm in good company!
I recently acquired a 1921 manufacture 1894. It’s in pretty close to mint shape. When the hammer is cocked, it’s slicker than snot, but to actually cock it without gloves, I find it a little bit hard. Anyone know if that the way it is, or is there something going on?
And for the buckhorn sights, if you could devise a way to do a video, I’d really be interested. I’ve only dealt with one once, and hated it, but now I’m thinking I just didn’t know. With my experience I just love the European square post and slot, but I know for animals amd not targets, it’s maybe not that great
be careful how tight the screw going through the tang gets. it can bind up the hammer if it's too tight, if memory serves.
They are expensive in Europe, or at least in norway. The R95 costs 1800usd and the marlin sbl costs 2600usd😅
I bought one of these to "celebrate" "government theft day" (tax day) this year. My first 30-30, and second lever action (the other is my late grandfather's Savage Model 99).
I admire reliability over all else, any firearm that doesn't fail me is for me. I owned a Remington made Marlin what a disgrace.
Think I'll stick to my Ruger No3
Wow - I thought I was the only one on the planet. My #3 is a steadfast companion. I helped a friend with a coyote issue a few days ago. .375 Win #3 - my #3 speaks once.
I know many people who own Rossi's, and they would disagree with you about there quality. Some are good, but they have more than a fair share of guns with issues. Extraction and ejection are 2 issues, fit and finish is often not very good. I looked at 2, at 2 different outlets, and both had the same issues: rear sights so loose they were basically useless, wood to metal finish wass very poor, one had a bent front sight, the other, is was very difficult to close the lever. So, I passed, and have never considered on again
Thanks for sharing - I'm always happy to hear people's experiences and opinions; whether they agree or not. I've owned so many guns made by so many makers; some of them worth many thousands and I've encountered assembly problems, parts problems, fitting problems in just about ever type. I don't mind - keeps life interesting. I realize most people want flawless though - and they're probably right. All the best.
CBC = Companhia Brasileirade Cartucho
Companhia Brasileira de Cartuchos.
( Company, Brazilian, of Cartridges )!!
Ordered a 30-30 through my gun guy about a month ago. Trigger was absolute garbage, my dealer sent it right back to Rossi. Beware with Rossi. We RMA'd another Rossi previously, it was a R92 357...wouldn't load worth a shit. Only R92 I had good experience with was the R92 45 LC. That company is NOT what it used to be.
Why wasn't the lever action more popular as a military weapon?
Reliability issues, less toleration of mud, dirt, etc., tubular magazine fragility and incompatibility with pointed bullets...
Try shooting a lever action from the prone position, though admittedly, the Ottomans did well with their Winchesters at the siege of Plevna...
Guys, those are great points. But it seems weird there weren't more military lever actions in the late 1860-70s before those issues were realized. I'm thinking also maybe because the lever repeater was an American invention/tradition while the Europeans already preferred the bolt action because of the Dreyse, Chasspott needle guns, etc. But obviously the bolt was a better military arm.
But with that tube loading, you are obliged to use no self primer striking ammo as the 30-30 . Just reminds me that the local gun shop has a new BLR in 30-06 for 1050€ .
I'd buy in a heartbeat : )
Have a Bergera HMR B14 with that Sako extractor it’s a weak design
Thanks for sharing that info. I remember the first rifle I owned with that extractor system was an experimental Mauser rifle going back to Paul Mauser's time. He abandoned that system in favor of the claw for military reasons and CRF; but many companies adopted it over the decades including Sako and somehow the Mauser design ended up being called "the Sako extractor." Anyway, interesting observation about the Rossi application of that extractor - I'll study it more. All the best and good shooting.
ruger bought the marlin brand
Thank you - likely a good decision.
All very nice and good, except for that stippling to imitate checkering. That takes a lot away from it for me. Thanks
Bring back rio grande