Harley Davidson Ultra Cool Oil Cooler Review
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- Опубліковано 11 чер 2019
- Riding my Harley in Arizona temps that can reach over 100 degrees frequently, I wanted to have additional active oil cooling. I found UltraCool and felt it was the right choice for my bike. Thank you to UltraCool for working with me on this sponsored video since this was a product I felt would solve overheating issues.
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My tests proved a 20 degree cooling difference compared to running only the Harley-Davidson Milwaukee-Eight engine oil cooler. I also believe that it could potentially be a greater than 20 degree difference on hotter days stuck in traffic but I am happy to report the verifiable 20 degree difference.
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I just moved to AZ from Seattle and installed the 3.0 cooler! I love it so far. I'm an Amsoil dealer and have used it in my bike since 2008 when I bought it! No issues so far!
It helps knowing what the guys who live in hellish areas use to keep their bikes cool. Great informative review, very articulate and easy to follow pleasant sound and video quality, keep it up.
Thanks I appreciate it. Trying to get better with every video I do. Happy I could help. I’ve been loving this oil cooler, seems to be doing a good job.
great video, thanks for the information, I know that my Ultra was pretty warm this summer, and I want to find something for it before next summer in AZ.
Thanks Joshua. I love running this UltraCool in Arizona. When its 90+ degrees it kicks on frequently which tells you the oil is hot. Now that its cooler, it stays off my entire ride to work in the morning then it starts kicking in on the way home. It also only kicked on a couple times over my entire journey to Paris TX since it was cool but it was interesting to pay attention to over that 2400 mile trip.
sweet review dude, thanks! I just ordered it.
I really hope you get more sponsorship this video was well thought out!
Thanks Peter, I really appreciate that.
I got this cooler in 08. They were very helpful and I love it.
Yeah they are pretty awesome. I am a big fan.
I installed one yesterday on my 2017 Low Rider S. The TC 110 gets very hot and it's something I wanted to do for a long time. I'm glad I finally did. Took the bike for a long ride after install. The light and fans came on and turned off a few times during my ride. It's a great piece of mind knowing that my engine isn't cooking due to high oil temps. Install was pretty straight forward and the instructions explained the process well.
Good to know. Just bought one for my low rider s. Man those bikes get hot.
@@998goon2 Yes they do get very hot. With big displacement comes a lot of heat. I truly feel much better having the oil cooler to help keep the heat in check.
Thanks for the info and it help me decide that I wanted one
No problem 👍
Same
I’m in AZ too thanks for bringing this up
absolutely. thanks for watching. funny how many people think this cooler is stupid. most of them likely haven’t been stuck on the 101 on a 108 degree afternoon.
I installed this oil cooler on my 2008 Ultra Classic. The 96 cubic inch engine seemed to put out considerably more heat than my 1985 Evolution Motor. I have been very satisfied with it so far (10 years). No complaints and it gives me some piece of mind when I get stuck in the ongoing Seattle-Tacoma congestion!
Yeah I have had really good results
What kind of temp drop did you see?
I don't have an oil temp gauge. I can tell by the seat of the pants. My rear cylinder is no longer scorching my thigh in stop and go traffic. During a hot summer ride at freeway speeds, when I exit the freeway, the LED oil light will come on letting me know the bike got hot and the fans are activated. In my humble opinion this cooler is doing its job. Hind sight is twenty twenty vision right? I should have installed one of these coolers on my 1985 Tour Glide.
@@blackbikemike2467 I have a 2014 Softail with an S&S 124. The old 103 ran at 230 degrees. This 124” is always 250 - 270 degrees (I put mild 585 cams in with 10.2:1 pistons). I’m in Canada so we don’t get the scorching heat like Arizona etc… I would like to get the temps down between 220 - 230 though. When my bike hits those hotter temps…. the bikes idle jumps up to around 2,000 rpm…. so something wonky is going on. My temps were all taken from my analog oil tank dipstick gauge.
@@beri232 If you don't have an oil cooler installed I would definitely recommend you start with that. With that large displacement engine and high compression, my guess is that it puts out a large amount of heat.
I agree with you. You have to do all you can to keep it cool. Live in Fl. At bike week sitting in traffic I've seen temps hit near 300 on air cooled bikes.
Oil temps near 300?!?!?
@@GearsGadgets CRAZY i know i told him at 250 he was nuts
Thank you for your video, ive been looking into this cooler, im sold, thanks agen
Got a 2006 Heritage Softail got one of these oil coolers for my bike when I get it back from the dealer (front end work) I will definitely put mine on . It gets hot in GA !
I'd be interested to see a follow up later this summer after we hit some 115's
It's definitely a concern of mine.
I commute here too year round, and it gets toasty!
Thanks for sharing Dan!
I will probably do a followup sometime soon. (Sorry for the late reply, trying to catch up on old comments I missed)
Sustain the spectacular job !! Lovin' it!
Thanks Mark!!
Great video. I have a custom bike in central California. Over 100 degrees and I can keep this thing cool.
Thanks for the feedback. Happy I could help.
Great video! Thank you!
Thanks Marco!!
I talk to the owner of ultra cool today I have a 2018 tri glide he answered all my questions and this video confirms what he told me, I will be ordering this cooler and the reusable oil filter.
Thanks, I am happy I could help, I have really enjoyed this Oil Cooler. It has done really good for me.
I have a 22 Freewheeler. I have mine at a shop doing some "things" I had him do exactly this, I didn't know about the light, that's cool. The M8 isn't terrible for heat, but definitely noticeable.. my mind it's a great addition to an air cooled motor.. can't wait until spring now. I also got S&S complete exhaust so that should help with heat as well with no cat 😁
Thanks for sharing great video !
Thanks for watching!!
Got one. Works great.
I totally agree.
The ultra cooler is a excellent choice 👌
I can only recommend you install a Oilfilter Relocation Kit, MUCH easier oil change and you bring down your engine temperatures with 5-10 degrees 👍🏻 I did it in addition with a JAGG Oilcooler mount on my 2017 FLHTK and it works perfectly 👌🏻☠️
Thanks, I put a Ultra Cool on my 2000 hotrod Ultra. Big difference! Should be on bike from factory.. Cheers
I totally agree.
I think having both an oil cooler and love jugs will be extremely beneficial. It can get extremely hot in Florida as well. Last time I went to bike week, pushing 100* it would want to act up in heavy traffic, especially the snail pace traffic into the Harley Dealership. A friend of mines bike actually overheated and failed. Cost him over $4000 for a rebuild from Harley Davidson.
Interesting. I’m not sure if I would run both but something is better than nothing and both is probably better.
😳 WOW! The Dude burnt the engine down ! I'd of road the sidewalks !
@@GearsGadgets I think it would be a personal decision based on your particular bike. I had issues getting extremely warm... almost to where I would worry about the motor overheating. But since I put the Love Jugs on, I haven't even come close to worrying about it. Before the install, according to my dash installed oil temp gauge, I would consistently push upwards of 300*
After the install, I rarely get over 240* even on the hottest of Florida days. Normally I'll be around 190* to 200*. Worth every penny in my opinion. I do think a fan equipped oil cooler would eliminate any chance of an overheating issue though. They work wonders for towing heavy loads in my dually for the transmission and oil...no reason to believe it wouldn't be similar results on the bike.
@@richardpitts6284 oil cooler and fans are worthwhile additions if you're in extremely hot climates
@@showcasecharlie11 the oil cooler and fans both target different areas of heat. The love jugs are super awesome but I'd also install a good oil cooler. No problems ever my friend.
I've been running oil coolers for years and the Flo filers as soon as I heard of them. Can't say I've had problems with either. My coolers are Jaggs and don't have fans, but love them anyway.
Yeah I am totally sold. Thanks for the comment.
Good review, this is my next part will be added to the bike.
how much extra engine oil would the ultra oil cooler take?
This is a really good video. Just enough of the install, and the real life use.
Thanks David. I try to keep it watchable.
@@GearsGadgets I have one on my 2009 Tri-Glide. It is awesome . If I am right, I think it keeps my motor 35-40 degrees cooler! Yes I would recommend it!!
Douglas Burns.
It would be curious to see if the factory oil cooler could benefit from oil rerouting like the UltraCool cooler has. This may negate the need for an extra cooler.
Does the cooler have to be mounted vertically also how much heat do you feel on your legs riding in hot temperatures
Interesting video 🍺🍺
Thanks!!
Any update as to how this cooler performed in the summer out there? And did you end up using the reusable filter? How’d that go?
Have you ever used Jagg oil cooler products? They're mounted to the left of the bike's frame (clutch side). I wonder if this can be used with Jaggs with certain fitters for a slightly tad bit more lengthier oil line. .
Nice video
great video...
Thanks Mark!!
I'm curious why you didn't use the powervision data points for head temp to show a benefit of the cooler.
You have a power vision what did it do engine temp wise? And head temp wise with it installed and is your stock oil cooler stand alone or fan assist too?
I have a 2019 Street Glide 128ci Stage 4 and she is really hot. I just ordered the cooler for my ride, depending on your review. I have one question: how bright is the light at night?
Other things I will do to reduce heat: Flo reusable oil filter with DKCustom oil filter relocation; DKCustom tank lift deluxe; Jim’s force flow fan; tab performance header 2-1-2; feuling oil pump and cam plate.
If your bike has the EITMS and is activated, should let u know how well the cooler is working... would think oil will be cooler by time it goes to upper end/ heads? to help keep rear cylinder from cutting out.. A friend put a 120R in his 2011 road king, installed the ultracool 3.0 and mighty mite Love-Jugs
Do you think this is a "must purchase " for this bike? I live in Texas and thinking about purchasing an 18 heritage. I have a kawasaki vulcan and it's a perfect commuter with a liquid cool 900 engine so I'm not sure if it's worth pulling the trigger on this beautiful heritage. In other words, should I be worried about reliability? Lol
Can you run it in conjunction with the stock oil cooler and fan?
Going to put this on my 2006 Softail ! Heard nothing but good about this product.
I live in Sacramento it gets hot as hell out here I recently installed the S&S 100” kit in my Road King I run mobile 1 in all 3 holes my average temp at 100 degrees has been near or about 270 degrees so I have been researching oil coolers and at the end of the day the Ultra Cooler made sense because of the fans I will be picking the kit up today I will post a vid a before then after Sacramento will be 100 degrees today
@@GearsGadgets Here is a update my King started leaking from the trans and primary while running Mobile 1 gear oil I switched back to HD gear oil guess what no more leaks so they only thing I use Mobile 1 for is the engine lol crazy right lol
@@GearsGadgets Here is a update my King started leaking from the trans and primary while running Mobile 1 gear oil I switched back to HD gear oil guess what no more leaks so they only thing I use Mobile 1 for is
The Ultra Cool Oil Cooler is a really solid piece of equipment. I have been running it for a year and its great.
Mobil 1 is a full synthetic oil which means its part synthetic and stock base oils, in other words a blended oil. 100 % synthetic oil is just as it says. It’s a play on words. Amsoil and Motul are 100 % synthetic oils . Note the front of the bottles . Hope this helps .
This is a necessity with air cooled engines .... Harley has attempted a liquid cooled engine a few times however adding an additional cooler is key to reducing heat soak in the motor
I totally agree. Especially in hotter climates like Arizona.
in indonesia too....hot climate and traffic jam almost in every roads
Has your fan ever stayed running even at highway speeds? 70-80 mph. Once mine turns on it never goes off until I cut the bike off. I have a '14 Streetglide and my ultracool oil cooler is mounted at the bottom horizontally just below the factory cooler. I live in TN so the temp doesn't really get super hot. 90-95° maybe.
So I have only really ridden with the cooler since the temps here have been over 95 and when it kicks on it pretty much stays on for the duration of my rides (30-40 minutes). I am guessing this is because the oil isn’t getting back down under 190 degrees for it to kick off so the cooler is doing its job working to cool the oil. If it stayed on at 70-80 mph for more than a 45 minute ride I might start to wonder. I guess I would wait until the temps drop under 90 to see if it does the same.
Hey thanks for the shout out. I'm pseudo famous. LOL. Good video and looks like you have an effective tool to keep the temps down on your bike. I think our temps here in the general Houston area get as warm. We had a "feel like" temp of 105 the other day and humid so I'm not sure if that matters or not. In any event I've always felt like my 114 Heritage ran warm. No one else has mentioned it and this isn't disrespectful in any way, but how do you feel about the looks? I've always felt like a function over form guy but I'm not digging the impact on how it makes the bike look. Looks like the oil change is pretty simple....
Howard Camardelle
haha no problem. I chuckled at the pseudo famous comment. Anyhow, in all reality I don’t really don’t dislike the look of the oil cooler. Since it is on the stand side when the bike is parked it’s barely visible, while riding I can’t see it at all. It’s really bad. That’s why I was saying I was pleasantly surprised that it didn’t look as big as I thought it would. I’m thinking it might be more visible on a chrome bike maybe?
So as you may or may not know I have your same bike . My question is do you still have this on your bike and is the heat coming off the jugs at a stop light noticeably cooler so you dont have adjust your footing from the heat?
I havent ever had to adjust my footing. Its not that noticable.
Live in southern Arizona and recently bought a 2010 Electra Glide. It is not liking these hot days. Im considering either the UltraCool or Love Jugs.......As you stated, cooling the oil as well as blowing air over the engine seems like a good thing. You still liking your UltraCool?
I LOVE the UltraCool. It works hard in these 110+ days and it works really well.
A remote filter mount on the right side would eliminate the mess, so would a Fumoto valve in the pan. Check out PurePower oil filters, worth it if you cover a lot of miles every year.
That is a good idea.
i'm wondering why you need all those adapter plates for cooler lines? its for bikes without factory cooler. isn't it better to run aux cooler in series with factory cooler?
No, if you look at the diagram I showed in the video, the factory cooler only cools RIGHT before it enters the heads so as soon as it comes out the other side, its blazing hot again. The UltraCool actually intercepts at the oil filter and is then distributing cooler oil to the rest of the motor. Atleast that is how I understand it.
Hi....what happened to the motul oil you put in your motor?.
Were you not happy with it as I noticed the oil in this video is clear.....I used it once and it made my motor so noisy I changed it out again....I'm now using petro canada supreme 20 50....keeps everything sweet....ok I'll be interested to know your thoughts on the motul oil..... cheers 🇷🇺🍻
I didn't catch the ambient temp on the day you ran your test. I don't doubt that it works, just kinda a critical variable to omit (unless I just missed it).
It was nearly identical.
I've been thinking of buying a ultra cooler 🤔
If you are going to be doing all these tests....shouldn't you invest in an FP3?Not for tuneability,but just so you can see head temp,oil temp,pressures,etc?
It might do some good but i don't like where it has to be positioned up high and stuck out like that may look better if it was down lower and not so obvious
I wonder if this would work for Road Kings '20 and newer. Cheers from Las Vegas, neighbor.
Cool. I get the oil flow issue. Have to wonder why HD did it they way they did. I wonder if there is a fan option for the stock oil cooler and if so, how well does that work? I bet the police bikes have fans on the oil cooler. This is a definite situation where use good oil. Very good synthetic oil. I recently saw another channel where I guy has a new RKS and he did his oil change and used conventional oil. IDK. In an air/oil cooled engine, I'd go for something better...
HD does have a fan for the oil coolers on the touring bikes but not for the softails, not sure why but I’m guessing space is the #1 reason.
@@GearsGadgets Well, you're setup helps, I am just a little surprised at the stock setup.
Use Amsoil also. Especially due to the heat your encountering. Resist coaking and deposits from burnt oil.
I have been really happy with Motul
@@GearsGadgets I use Motul on my 675R race bike. Very good quality oil. I'm going to start using it for my HD.
Interesting but I don't see a thermostat on this system. This could possibly lead to overcooling in cold weather.
Do RC it has a built in thermostat. It only kicks on when the oil hits 220 and it turns back off when the oil drops to 195. They also sell a cover for if you are riding in really cold temps.
@@GearsGadgets ok yeah I meant a thermostat for the oil flow. A cover could help.
This is the one concern I have with my purchase over Jaggs as well. A manual shut off valve to restrict oil flow to the cooler would be fantastic. I wonder if you could buy the Jaggs one for and install with the UltraCool system?
Hey Ive got the question, how does the oil is routed from the engine is it going thru cooler first and then thru oil filter or is it going thru oil filter first and then thru oil cooler? Thanks
Filter then cooler (I think). It’s been a while since I looked at the diagrams.
Filter, then cooler
Do they make the cooler for a 2013 103 motor??
I am not sure, you would have to check their website.
what a great video, very professional. Nice product also. But why does everything have to cost so much for a motorcycle? I would expect to pay $200 for this and consider that to be high, but in reality this is a $500 fan. The industry has gone crazy on their pricing of any accessories for motorcycles.
Thanks for the kind words. It is a little more than just a fan, it is a radiator, thermostatically controlled, and a machined oil filter adapter. There is actually quite a bit to it.Otherwise I generally agree, accessories are crazy expensive.
Can I use this for a Yamaha bolt ?
I am not sure, you would have to contact UltraCool
I Have a 2021 Sport Glide FLSB with the Harley Moustache Engine Guard, do you know if this will fit with the guard on? I saw how high you placed the cooler, I would have to mount it almost in line with the stock oil cooler. BTW, Excellent Video. The installation doesn't look to hard
Thanks. I actually ended up installing an engine guard later (not the mustache though) so maybe this will help. ua-cam.com/video/3PALULXXGc8/v-deo.html
I wouldn’t be able to make a good enough educated guess on fitment to be comfortable with. Too many variables and too much of someone else’s money at play.
@@GearsGadgets Thank you. Excellent video and I like the plate you fabricated. I might do something like that. Thank you again for responding. While I have you, just out of curiosity, why did or didn't you consider Love Jugs or something like that? I know they don't have them available for 2018+ Softails, but, I've been in touch with Tony from Love Jugs and supposedly they are very close to making them available. What would your honest opinion be comparing the two? Just curious.
@@williamfusco4980 honestly I wouldn’t really know how to answer that question without testing lovejugs. I personally really like the idea of cooling the oil more but wouldn’t mind testing love jugs too.
@@GearsGadgets Yea. IDK about you, but this bike is an investment and I really want to do what I can to help with the longevity of it. BTW how thick was that plate you fabbed? It looked about 3/4" or so.
I saw a Power Vision on your bike. Did the engine temp on that mirror your oil temp?
No, the engine temp is a head temp and the oil will always be cooler than the head especially since that temp is being measured in the pan.
@@GearsGadgets I have head and engine temp options. Cruising at 75 @ 80-85 degrees ET is about 250 HT is of course well above that I am getting a oil temp gauge tomorrow and will see how close they are.
Oil cooler also adds more oil in the system
True
Interesting. So this is an additional oil cooler?
That is correct. It basically supplements the OEM oil cooler that has no fans and provides an additional cooler with fans for when you are at low speeds. Basically the OEM oil cooler is only effective at speed which is when you are least likely to have overheating issues to begin with. I love my UltraCool oil cooler.
Does the blue light come with the kit? Does the oil filter come with the kit?
Good video. However when you got to the school and rode around at slow speeds you were actually cooling the oil down bc you were putting very little strain/pressures on the engine. Riding slow like that will bring up your CHTs because of little air flow over the engine. Your oil temps will be highest riding on the freeway at 80.
I’m not sure about that. An air cooled motor needs air otherwise it just starts to heat soak. Pre-oil cooler I never had any overheating issues, only time I did have any overheating issues was in slow / dead stopped traffic in temps over 110 and as soon as the bike got to moving again, the temps dropped immediately. My test setup in that school parking lot was based off replicating previous overheating scenarios where the bike EITMS kicked on at a stop, then off at slow moving speeds, back on at a stop, then eventually went even further and started adjusting timing / fuel to the point where the motor had about 25% power at speed.
@@GearsGadgets You are confusing cylinder head temp measurements with oil temps. My experience comes from thousands of hours flying airplanes with large air cooled engines (like a harley engine) and monitoring multiple instruments that measure CHTs EGTs TITs(turbo inlet temps) oil temps and oil pressure for 6 cylinder engines. Every single time oil temps would rise to near red line (245 degrees) while flying on a hot day. All my flying was close to the ground 1000Ft above ground level. After landing and let the engine idle the oil temps would slowly come down. Clyinder head temps would stay the same or rise because there was less air over the cylinders. A Harley air cooled engine generates more heat(creating higher oil temps) while operating at highway speeds bc its pulling a load and higher piston friction and engine pressures created by higher RPMs. On my past Harleys with actual oil temp gauges on hot days(100 plus) I've noticed oil temps slowly coming down as you get off the freeway and let it idle or drive at slower speeds.
I’m not confusing head temp with oil temp. With heads that are cooled by oil like the Harley Milwaukee 8 is, as the bike sits at lower speeds, you have no air flowing through the OEM fan less oil cooler or the fins on the motor so that oil is just circulating through the hot head which is just actively getting hotter and hotter by the second along with the oil flowing through that head. The moment you start moving, air starts flowing over the OEM oil cooler thus cooling the oil that is being used to precision cool the heads. That is the entire design of the M8 power plant. There is a reason why police bikes are sold with oil coolers with fans for “parade duty” where the bikes overheat due to low speeds or dead stopped situations. The UltraCool oil cooler is exactly that same thing for the same purposes because the motors heat soak at a stop. I would have a hard time comparing an air cooled motorcycle motor to an air cooled airplane engine in completely different configurations engineered to do two completely different tasks.
@@GearsGadgets Oil coolers definitely help. Fans don't hurt either.
@@garybaldwin1061I agree. I noticed temperature drop after coming to the stop from riding 60-70mph and then go up after few min been stopped.
It only makes sense, I am surprised the manufacturers never developed this fan assisted oil cooler on their air cooled engines.
Which brings me to another question about liquid cooled motorcycles, even if a motorcycle is liquid cooled, it still needs a large fan especially in traffic jams, otherwise that shiny new liquid cooled engine is going to over heat!
I know from experience with my old Austin Healey, even though it had a healthy new cooling system with a high capacity aluminum radiator it still needed a 12 inch fan mounted to the front of the radiator to keep the engine from overheating in a traffic jam. I wonder if the new Indian challenger has a cooling fan in front of its radiator as well??? If not I guarantee it will overheat in a traffic jam as well! That’s why all modern cars have pusher fans mounted in front of their radiator.
True Paul Healey. Thanks for watching and commenting.
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I like the idea of a more efficient cooler but it is weird to have this thing protruding on the side. It would have been more elegant to have it replace the oem radiator.
My engine temps reach 349 head temps 380 almost
Stop my 2014 fatbob I have a power vision tuner so I can see the engine temp and sitting in dead stop traffic on a summer day in New York it got up to 304°
I’ve been in a detour where my engine temp reached 369
Love Jugs keep the motor from getting hot so the oil doesn’t get too hot. In AZ I’ve never seen engine temps above 270 or oil temps above 215. Much more effective. Much cheaper. Much easier to install.
The older Harley's coolers went through the filter..... The Sproster Filter does not have a thermostat or by-pass..... Average cooling is 20-25 º
Thanks for the info.
PLUS: BEST if you run Amsoil 20W40 full synthetic (the only true synthetic, other brands are blended fals labeled). Synthetic Oul runs much lowers temps than conventional oil. If you run 20W50 in Harleys then more than likely on hot days (like I experienced today on my bike I had to tow home) when your oils gets so hot it expands and doesn’t lubricate your pistons and then chokes out your Bike while you are running 85 mph on a 2 lane twisted highway. It shit itself down because it overheated and it overheated because 20W50 in Harleys SUCK! Especially conventional oil (not my choice, bought the bike with it in it, no skin off my back, I love turning wrenches!).
My question is, are those dual cylinder frame mount oil coolers work good? I live ride in Texas, thinking about adding force air oil cooler and gram mount twin cylinder coolers (probably 3/4 qt extra). I’m riding a Heritage Chopper with a 1997 FLSTC Powertrain (1340 w/Screaming Eagle Pack)
Personally I LOVE this UltraCool Oil Cooler running it here in Arizona on 110 degree days. It has done wonders for my bike. Also sorry to hear about your Tow today, that sucks.
What about 20w60
Riding at 80 mph will make more heat than ridingaround that parking lot...but ya, sure it works well. I'm seriously considering one.
Thanks
Riding in stop and go in 100 degree temps certainly makes the bike hotter than riding at 80mph with air flowing over the air cooled motor. The motor just heat soaks in stop and go traffic which is where the oil cooler REALLY shines. The oil cooler barely ever kicks on at highway speeds but will run for long durations in stop and go traffic as the bike heats up with no airflow.
@@GearsGadgetsDk customs actually proved matthew correct. The bike indeed does run hotter cruising down the road than in stop and go traffic. It's because you're not running 3k rpms sitting in traffic like you are cruising. Check out their videos and testing
How much that oil cooler ser
Prices area always subject to change / depending on model. Check their website for current pricing.
The engineers at HD decided a thermofan wasn't needed, and the cooler provided was suitable for the world market.
No criticism of you, you're demonstrating a product, but I'm weary of companies trying to sell products we don't really need.
I use quality synthetic oil, and change it at the prescribed intervals. In Australian summer, 40'C, no issues.
I get it but also realize engineers make decisions based on budgets and just because they eliminate something or switch a material does not mean that intention is to benefit the consumer. You should not be on a $20,000 motorcycle in traffic and have it pull back so much power that it barely runs because of the heat (assume it is also damaging something at that point). That specific scenario is addressed with the UltraCool Oil Cooler which COULD have been resolved by Harley adding a fan on that radiator (easily). After all, a radiator only serves a purpose when air is moving through it, that is not happening in dead stop rush hour traffic. If Harley wants to sell $20K bikes to the masses, they cant have people going to liquid cooled alternatives because of that specific scenario, it costs them sales.
BTW, I am not saying that everyone has these issues, but I am saying that nobody should. Happy to hear your M8 is solid but I can assure you at 40C (104F) stuck in heavy stop and go traffic in a large city for 30 minutes or so, you WILL overheat. It might be that Australia has a far less population density than the US which means you deal with less traffic, I don't know but I can only speak from my specific scenarios I guess. Maybe I am the only one.
I agree for what harley charges it should have an assisted oil cooler all bikes and if not an option to install yourself a fan as a bolt on plug and play. They constantly screw up on the details. Also nowadays everything runs on electric so they should have piggyback acc. Hookups
Just a note, the twin-cooled Harleys did away with the oil cooler to make room for the water pump.
Are you still liking the results of the oil cooler?
I did love it but I had to pull it off to fit my engine guard that I put on. I couldn’t squeeze them both on there without it limiting the function of one or the other.
@@GearsGadgets Thanks for replying back, I'm thinking of getting one for my 2015 Breakout I just picked up. Living in Tucson I take everything you say about riding in the our outrageous heat as the best advice around!
You can buy a oil temp gauge dipstick from Harley.
flo oil filter gets u 10°-20° cooler, it has heat sinks.
You should get a dipstick with a temp gauge in it.
Last I checked they didn't have any for the M8
@@GearsGadgets Didn't know that. I know fueling has a vented dipstick to relieve blowby so the dipstick seal doesn't fail.
Its easy af to do a 3 hole service and fun 2.
can you run this and love jugs?
So now we need to find out if 20° is enough to make any difference.
I think a 10% + drop in temps is significant but I guess you would have to figure out if you felt the same.
@@GearsGadgets what makes you think so?
@@GearsGadgets It's not about feelings. It's about facts. Just because someone sells something dosen't mean it's worth having. Maybe a 10° drop will make the engine last significantly longer or at least go from roasting your legs to just making them hot. But strong evidence is needed.
When your nuts are cooking 10deg. Makes a big deal
I refuse to fork over $550+ for an ADDITIONAL cooler on a m8 softail when the big stocker already has plenty of potential - for that money there must be a way to fit a fan on the stock setup and save your bike from carrying that thing around.
Seems it would be ideal to simply install a fan system in front of the existing oil cooler. Been keeping my eyes open for one. Aesthetically the add on takes away from the bike.
Also the Harley oil cooler runs oil from motor through cooler then filtered. So OEM cooler gets filthy inside. Which could starve motor of oil.
Check out OIL BUD cooler that one you don’t even see. Not fan cooled but very interesting effective cooler.
I wish someone would come up with a retrofit solution for the factory oil cooler.
The size of Harley cooler is the prob not enough especially after cam etc.
@@GearsGadgetsA retrofit cooler with the modified oil flow and electric fans might be all these engines need in 115F ambient temperatures during stop and go traffic.
Cost is very important to me....if its a Harley part I'd have to sell the bike to be able to afford the part...
220° is the highest oil temp ive seen on my m8 stage 2, on a 101° day...
You didn’t mean “...I used an impact....”. You meant, “...I shouldn’t have used an air-powered tool...”. An impact wrench wouldn’t back out the bolt you were turning to raise the bike on your lift. 😂. Thanks for the info. on this product; probably get one for my silver 2018 Heritage Classic 114 too!
Sorry Daniel, it actually was an impact and it backed out on the way down, not on the way up. I just cut that part out because the video was long on time. Dropping the lift with with the impact backed it out and messed it up. Also dropped it incredibly fast, all things that make sense but a brain fart moment thinking it wouldnt hurt anything taught me good haha. Anyway, thanks for watching, Love the silver Heritage!!!
Gears & Gadgets Thanks for your video, you really kept hitting an impact tool to the point it backed out the bolt completely? An impact wrench only moves about an eighth of a turn per hit with a hammer. Really sounds like you used an air tool.....😂
Marita Electric Impact Driver. Same one you see in the video sending the lift up.
Another option would be to seal up your oil “pop off valve”.
They all leak!!.
Good share by the way!
Larry
Oh interesting. Thanks for the kind words.
If this works in a. Then it would help anyone. I know come summer in az. You breathe dry volcano air
True. It’s been running strong for me here in Arizona
Heat is damaging to the engine especially over 220 degrees
Yes sir.
I've heard stories of these things leaking, anybody had problems
Have you heard of love jugs ?
I have but never seen them
Optimal oil temp ranges is 230-260 degree range. Cold oil can do damage to engine parts.
Water boils off at 212f. My understanding is oil temp only needs to hit 220f for a few minutes to evaporate the water in the system that is mixed with oil. I would not be unhappy Riding in the 180-230f range.
This company claims a 50 degree drop and another 10 degrees using their heatsink oil filter housing. I ride a 2014 Softail with an S&S 124 with 585 cams. It routinely runs 250 - 270 degrees….. and I’m in Canada…. so not Arizona hot. Lol. I need their claimed 50 degree reduction otherwise it’s not really worth the $$$ in my opinion. Definitely not for a 20 degree drop.
Harley Davidson should just install there own fan cooled one when there making the bike at the factory!
I totally agree. I think it is an AWESOME addition.
you mean like the 2 rubber mount stabilizers (ft and rear!)