I’m a Catholic, a fellow Christian and believer in our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and this breaks my heart… to see a steadfast pastor of the faith to have to give guidance to the flock on where to go as the church of his faith implodes. My heart breaks for you. Prayers sent with prayers!😢
Another Catholic here. Our Catholic church is heading in a similar direction in some countries. eg the Catholic German bishops wanting to bless same sex unions
It’s all so deeply disturbing, but we all have to hang on to the Truth, that the battle has already been won! Thanks be to God for the gift of our Savior & Lord, Jesus Christ!
But as a Catholic you do not believe in the sufficiency of Christ's death on the Cross. You add works to your faith in Christ... that is not biblical. Ephesians 2: 8-10
@amapola53 This is a lie. The Catechism tells of the sufficiency of Christ's sacrifice. But its salvific grace is not enough to save those who will not repent of their sin. For example, ongoing homosexual acts condemn us to the everlasting fire🔥, as 1 Cor 6 tells us
Praying for you. I was an Anglican clergyman and converted to Catholic Ordinariate. It took me ten years of discerning and anguish. Anglicanism nurtured my early faith for which I am grateful. I am so pleased to be able to treasure Anglican traditions in the Catholic church. Blessings on you all.
I’m not a priest but I joined the Ordinariate. It is such a relief to all the nonsense behind. I’d recommend any Anglican to do the same. A bonus is that in the Ordinariate you get the BCP services you know and love. You get a very warm welcome.
I was christened CofE as a child, but grew up unreligios. I recently turned 30 and Christianity, for some reason, has been taking my interest. I purchased a bible and started to attend my local Church, but I have given up only 3 weeks in because the lectures were too woke, and I didn't see how it fit in with the Bible. Here is a quote from a booklet on lent they handed to me: 'Sin is both a power and a behaviour. We don't need- nor are we able to - choose between the two or prioritise one over the other. Perhaps the most obvious example of this is the way the sin of racism has historically shapes and continues to shape the way of our world, particularly in the west, is ordered. One of the revelations of recent thinking on racism is that it is not enough simply to not be racist myself. I must also acknowledge the fact that I am shaped by a history and a society where I have benefitted because of a history of colonialism, racism and oppression. What is my responsibility in relation to the kind of structural or systematic sin? " I will continue to read my bible and educate myself, explore my faith individually, until I find a suitable alternative. The majority of the population are not on board with this, and they have lost me, someone who as wanting and willing to attend the church. No wonder their numbers are dwindling.
I pray God will guide you to a good home fellowship where Jesus is loved and revered and the believers honour and respect each other, living out the Bible instructions
@@MrCharlieC23 last point agreed upon, but how do you solve the unity problem? I heard the Patriarch of Constantinople punt (American term meaning he ignored the question) about contraception once....do they have to bring it up in a Pan-Orthodox council? has there ever been one? uncomfortable questions I know...but Jesus DID provide a way to resolve disputes (unless like our current leader, he is a bit spineless)
I live in the US and was raised in the Episcopal Church. After years of prayer and discernment, I made the decision to join the Catholic Church and was received last Easter (2022).
Welcome home indeed! I came into the church in 2022 as well. I had become Anglican (in theology and practice) before joining Catholicism. I was raised Baptist.
@@samanthathompson9812may I ask, what teachings do you not agree with? I was once in a similar position but thanks to some catholic apologists I am fully for Catholicism now.
The Catholic Church is just as bad with praying to idols , it’s the reason God kicked out his people out of ISRAEL.the pope is promoting same sex marriage
@@spirituallysafe Indeed, Pastor John F. MacArthur has a positively Eye-Opening Series of Sermons on just how Satanic the Papacy truly is, it is well worth a Watch IMO!
I was TEC for several years and finally had to leave when our priest retired and was replaced with a very liberal lesbian priest. She was very kind, but I was unable to remain in the church. I departed without a plan and was without a church home for several years. This was while the ACNA was still in the process of forming. But the Lord urged me to look again and I found a faithful ACNA congregation where I have been worshipping for many years now. It is much further away, but it is worth it to be among faithful believers. My prayers are with all of my C of E brothers and sisters in this time. You all will find your way in time.
@@jonb4020 Did they die of Syphillis like the Beloved founding head of your Church? and you know very well the first 30 Popes are canonized martyrs and saints..you have Prince Harry and his race-baiting wife
Dear Rev. As a Roman Catholic, all I can say is that satan is having great time at the moment, he may be aware his time is running out. We Catholics are suffering greatly too at the moment. We need the Lord to come and put a stop to it. MARINATHA . God Bless all His Faithful Soldiers in this great battle.
My wife and I left the Episcopal Church about 10 years ago because of the "progressive" direction in which the church was going. We joined the ACNA (Anglican Church of North America) because of its traditional view of Christian teachings. We are very happy and active in our church.
Welcome! My husband is an ACNA priest and we have had “refugees” from TEC (their words, not mine) join us for worship. How hard for these precious people to leave the church that they’ve invested and nurtured in for years.
I don't want to convince anyone here, I will pray for all of you who are firm in the faith and in what is written in the Bible, that you will remain steadfast in your faith and find a parish or church that has not fallen into the Zeitgeist. God's blessing 🕊
I have just discovered you and I’m so thankful I have ! I’m an Evangelical conservative Anglican here in Canada . I’m distressed as to what I hear within the church and I am praying for the decision I have to make ,.
Very nice to hear your Aussie accent and your wisdom. I’m a Roman Catholic Australian our Catholic Church has lost so much since Vatican 2. Good news is some of the newly ordained priests are far less liberal than their predecessors and more adherent to scripture.
Find a good traditional latin Mass, you will feel at home. You will never regret it. I suggest the Society of Saint Pius X ( SSPX ). They go all over Australia.
My grandparents left the C of E in 1903! So my late father grew up in the Congregational church. I also grew up in Congregatiomal church very good church but not one close to where I live so I go to the Baptist church. Very hsppy in the Baptist.
" Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, and will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be My sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty."-2nd Cor. 6:17-18.
I have been searching, praying and crying before the Lord for guidance. My heart is broken. Your words of wisdom, Brett, have been a lifeline! Thank you…thank you! God bless and keep you ❤
Rev. Murphy, a few years ago the PCUSA went through something similar with changes to The Book of Order. I was a ordained elder and had to leave the church. After searching i did find what I was looking for within the Catholic Church and have never been more fulfilled spiritually. I pray and hope that my brothers and sisters in the C of E do not despair. Our Lord will guide them to where they need to be. I will be praying for you.
There is no provision to kick him out, it’s a political appointment by the prime minister, rubber stamped by the King. Once Welby goes you can probably imagine the sort of person Starmer will appoint.
I have been a high church Anglican for a number of years and after much prayer and discernment, I have found much nourishment and closeness to God in a small independent Evangelical church. Took me greatly by surprise, but loyalty to Jesus is more important than our perceived churchmanship, our establishment loyalties or even our liturgical biases. God bless you for your honesty and compassion Rev. Murphy, my prayers are with you. And my prayers are with my other brothers and sisters in Christ, whatsoever church they are in or moving to. Ultimately we are bible believing Christians and we will take the narrow path necessary to follow our Saviour.
I too have Anglican Episcopalian roots from my great grandfather Joseph Johnson, but I was brought up Catholic as I also have Irish/ Scots Ulster ancestry. I have come to the conclusion that both faiths have not been faithful to the true Divine Gospel of Jesus. My mom's father was German American Methodist and I have worshipped as one also, but found it recently to be a lukewarm church. I now worship in the Assembly of God, as well as my friend and we have found spiritual fulfilment. I pray that the Anglican Church finds the True Path of Jesus, The Light of the World. I've also worshipped at a local Anglican Church near where I live, the pastor and congregation are very faithful and reverent to the True Gospel of Jesus.
I feel the opposite. Many evangelical churches rely on feelings and your own ideas of what the Bible means, not obeying what it says. I feel that there is no pure denomination left. The pope and all their scandals, the CoE and others....there are always as you say a remnant
@@dawnyoshimura1171 Indeed, I think the faithful remnant is no longer in one denomination or church, but in small pockets of believers scattered across all of them. I hope you've found a good church yourself, it took a very long time and a lot of travel for me.
Thank you Rev Murphy for publishing this video. I have found it full of helpful suggestions worth praying about. May God keep you safe and strong in the ame of Jesus.
As a layman I have already been there with this issue - once frozen out of a church unwillingly (and yes it did hurt at the time), and a second occasion when I left an Anglican church where renewal had ground to a halt and dead tradition reasserted itself that my evangelical sensitivities couldn't cope with. Whilst this can be painful in lost friendships, leaving the human institution called church does not mean leaving God, or more importantly being deserted by God. On the contrary the promise of Jesus _Lo I am with you always_ can become an even greater reality. He may knock in vain on the door of the institutional church but will fellowship with any individual who receives him. In any event I think for those who take the bible seriously the divisions within denominations can be greater than the historical differences between them. Humanly speaking the C of E may look like a lost cause, but don't we believe in a God who raises the dead?! Mercy may yet triumph over judgement.
As a Catholic, my heart goes out to you. I have a firm faith in the divine assistance and protecting God gives to the magisterium, specifically because even with all the chaos going on in Germany, the Church has still consistently said no to the bishops. Even after every Christian denom gave way to the heresies of divorce and contraception, still we stand firm and say no. It is strange that even during the Arian crisis, when most bishops were heretics, the Church was still protected in her magisterium. Glory be to God.
I am a Mere Christian and love the Anglican belief system and particularly the Orthodox branch. The town I am in all our Anglican churches are "woke". My husband and I are looking for a church home. I have prayed for guidance and I know it will come. I am peaceful in that my daily worship is not impacted by not having an official Church to go to. There are many of us out here - like stars in the sky - we shine still!
May I suggest a visit or 10 to a local Orthodox Church. See beyond the congregation, and if it is not in English, ask for a translation for you to follow. May you find your hearts' home xxx
@@katherine3486 Thank you - I have been looking into Orthodox near us. My husbands dad was a Vicar in Wales so it might be harder for him to make a change. Our heart's home, yes.
I was formerly a pastor in a progressive Lutheran denomination in the US - many kind people among the congregations I served, but the worldly direction of the denomation's leadership made it no longer tenable to stay. Even though church forms were largely maintained, the Holy Spirit was absent, and confusion rather than clarity prevailed. Through much prayer the Lord brought me to a few Bible-based churches in another state. Though the church may indeed wander, the Lord is faithful. God bless all the faithful in England who are discerning how to respond to the Church of England's leadership at this time.
Protestantism is heretical blasphemy, there’s only the one true Catholic and Apostolic Church. Liberalism is the death of Civilization, Culture, and the Family.
You know....Luther sent the Augsburg Confession to the Orthodox for advice....he even proclaimed, "I stand with the Orthodox!" Sadly, he couldn't get the Orthodox to change their theology based on his interpretations of Scripture....
@@frankherbert6476 Hello, and God's blessings to you today. There may be a little discrepancy historically: yes, Luther did defend the Orthodox Church in debate, holding that they were indeed true Christians, against the counter assertion of his opponents. However, there is no record he held correspondence with the Orthodox Church. Lutheran theologians a few decades after his death - in the mid 1570s - did establish a theological dialogue on the points of the Augsburg Confession, and they did not reach an accord after thorough communication. It remains one of the great 'what-ifs' of ecclesiastical history. God bless you again today, Frank.
The Anglicans and the Orthodox were once very close in the West during the 19th/early 20th century. In the US, Orthodox attended Anglican churches due to the absence of Orthodox parishes. There was an Anglican contingent attending the Pan-Orthodox Congress in 1923, and showed great interest, but did not want to change their theology....This Easter, I suggest attending your local Anglican church. As the Eastern Orthodox Pascha (Easter) is a week later, then attend Holy Week services, if nothing else, the Easter Service. See if this is the worship and faith of those Early Apostolic Fathers and the Apostolic succession (Our jurisdiction, the Antiochians, have their HQ in Damascus.....on a Street Called Straight.) Oh, BTW, a good friend of mine, Father Justin, was on his way to become an Anglican Priest and is now an Orthodox Priest. Anglican clergy can become Orthodox clergy (our Priests can be married). in regards to change.... "How many Eastern Orthodox does it take to change a lightbulb?" "What is change?" "What is a lightbulb?" There are lots of issues in the Orthodox Church. It would be a lot easier if the parishes weren't filled with human beings. What you will find, is "The faith, once delivered to the saints." You will find no easy path; it is one of constant repentance, stumbling, taking up one's cross daily. Of prostrating oneself and rising, knowing that God became man in order to heal what He assumed, to sanctify the world. In our sanctuaries, you will see our walls lines with our heroes, that great cloud of witnesses who have run the race, and now cheer us on. If the church is built as an Orthodox church (many times we are in other's churches that are abandoned) you need only look up to see who is in charge. Ask, read, pray. look for discernment. Push yourself. This is serious business. Oh, and we have baklava!
What's the problem, the religion of the English people was stolen from them by the megalomaniac Henry 8 and his aristocratic cronies who enriched themselves and aided and abetted the thugs who murdered about 70,000 English Catholics who would not comply with the new regime whilst they plundered the churches and Monasteries. However the Barque of Peter is still sailing and you are welcome to sign on as crew members anytime. There's a crewing office near you, it's called a local Catholic Parish Church. Sign on Mate and rejoin your forefathers.
God bless you brother! I am an Anglican evangelical historically but feeling drawn to become a Catholic, but for a range of reasons beyond the current apostasy of the Church of England. I agree that there are significant differences between Anglicans and Catholics (and Orthodox) that have to be taken seriously and such a big jump shouldn't be done hastily without thinking and praying it through. My heart is with everyone who remains true to God's standards of truth and righteousness, because we have far more in common than what separates us. It's important to realise that liberal "Christianity" is actually every bit as unorthodox as the Mormons and the Jehovah's Witnesses, and it's no longer an option to act like they believe in the same faith that we do.
Former Presbyterian family here who investigated Russian Orthodoxy but we settled on a small traditional Anglican province here in the USA. We're thriving and growing albeit slowly. If you do elect to leave the CoE, please be very clear with your CoE rector why you area leaving: You're looking for an orthodox expression of the historic Christian faith. Some former Roman Catholics who visit our parish tells us that we are more catholic that their own RC congregation. May God forgive us for our carelessness with which we have handled His priceless Gospel.
Mention of the Tractarian movement reminds me of John Henry Newman, and his defection from the Church to Catholicism. That had to do with his failed efforts to get support from his bishop who unfortunately identified as much as a government official as a priest. The same problem presented John Wesley in a different dilemma. The Church rebuffed his successful evangelical efforts by its obsessions with form. In its salad days, the Roman Catholic Church was able to encompass many different approaches by enfranchising religious orders, most famously the Franciscans and Dominicans and the Jesuits. However, the worst result of the Reformation was the dreadful entanglement of religion and politics, and the subordination of the faith to the whims of the princes, national and local. As rule became less personal, the national bureacracies became the real rulers. As religion declined, the Church became more a mere department of State.
Conversion to Rome is to say that nothing really matters. You object to moral deviancy in the CofE but will accept it in Rome. Idolatry, on so many levels, but that's ok because at least they aren't gay? Seriously you know nothing about Catholicism if you would join it and want to be a Christian. You may as well be a Mormon or a Muslim.
After retirement a few years ago I became increasingly dissatisfied with the direction of the C of E. We have worshipped at an independent chapel for a several years that is part of the Countess of Huntingdon Connection. It is Bible-believing, evangelical, very prayerful and is engaged in open-air ministry as well. It has been so refreshing and enlightening. I was invited to become an elder, a great privilege and it is certainly where the Lord wants us. We do pray for those in the C of E who are struggling. Thankyou for your videos, they are clearly helpful and encouraging for many brothers and sisters. Every blessing. Rev. Bryan V. East
The Personal Ordinariate of Our Lady of Walsingham in England and Wales is a personal ordinariate in full communion with the Pope and the Catholic Church that accepts married Anglican priests to serve as normal Catholic priests. In the US and Canada, the equivalent is The Personal Ordinariate of the Chair of Saint Peter based in the Cathedral of Our Lady of Walsingham in Houston, Texas as its principal church, with 41 parishes and missions with over 6,000 members in both countries. In Australia, they have The Personal Ordinariate of Our Lady of the Southern Cross with 15 Australian congregations.
@@DavidSmith-sb2ix Seems like it. Yet, the writing of Pope Benedict expresses what I believe: "Lord, your church often seems like a boat about to sink, a boat taking in water on every side." "...learned to let go and to live out of a deep conviction that the Lord does not abandon His Church, even when the boat has taken on so much water as to be on the verge of capsizing." "...moments when the waters were rough and the winds against us, as throughout the Church’s history.... and the Lord seemed to be sleeping. But I have always known that the Lord is in that boat, and I have always known that the barque of the Church is not mine but His. ... This has been, and is, a certainty which nothing can shake." "Again and again the little barque of the Church is ripped apart by the winds of ideologies, whose waters seep into her and seem to condemn her to sink. Yet, precisely in the suffering Church, Christ is victorious. In spite of all, faith in Him recovers ever new strength. The Lord still commands the waters today and shows that He is the Lord of the elements. He stays in his barque, in the little boat of the Church." As a Catholic I have to believe that the gates of hell will not prevail against it. We now have bishops against bishops as certain Marian prophecies predicted. It is a fearful time.
@DavidSmith-sb2ix Seems like all Christian denominations are undergoing a tsunami of apostasy. Even in the Catholic church of which I'm a member. Yet, the writing of Pope Benedict expresses what I believe: "Lord, your church often seems like a boat about to sink, a boat taking in water on every side." "...learned to let go and to live out of a deep conviction that the Lord does not abandon His Church, even when the boat has taken on so much water as to be on the verge of capsizing." "...moments when the waters were rough and the winds against us, as throughout the Church’s history.... and the Lord seemed to be sleeping. But I have always known that the Lord is in that boat, and I have always known that the barque of the Church is not mine but His. ... This has been, and is, a certainty which nothing can shake." "Again and again the little barque of the Church is ripped apart by the winds of ideologies, whose waters seep into her and seem to condemn her to sink. Yet, precisely in the suffering Church, Christ is victorious. In spite of all, faith in Him recovers ever new strength. The Lord still commands the waters today and shows that He is the Lord of the elements. He stays in his barque, in the little boat of the Church." I have to believe that the gates of hell will not prevail against it. In the Catholic church we now have bishops against bishops as certain Marian prophecies predicted. It is a fearful time.
@@DavidSmith-sb2ix : Correction: Some 'Catholics' may be going off course, and it's been that way since the year 33AD... But the Catholic Church itself can never fail... We have God's promise on that!
Brett, I’m an academic theologian working here in the UK, specifically in the Derbyshire area. Very much enjoy your output. The suggestions here are very good. I made the decision to leave the cofe in 2011, even though I was pursuing ordination. I eventually found myself at a Congregational church, and I could talk for hours about what it’s been like to be an exilic Anglican in those contexts. It’s not always easy, but it’s critically important. With a fellow academic and friend (who also left the cofe), we wrote a treatise called ‘exilic anglicanism’ upon our departure. Reading it now feels spookily prescient.
The Anglican Church (as opposed to the anti religious woke commune dossing out at All Saints) in Derbyshire must find it particularly difficult when their episcopacy is so mired in apostacy. Libby the liberal needed to demonstrate an understand of the Bible before she was placed in a position of 'leadership' in the Church. The rainbow brigades reign will be short but the damage they are inflicting upon the Church will possibly bring the C of E crashing down upon their heads. I'm waiting ( in the name of inclusivity and diversity) for the first witch to be installed in the Cathedral Chapter!.
I have joined the Eastern Orthodox Church from Roman Catholicism. It's totally different from anything I've ever experienced and is fully confident in its preaching of Biblical truths. It feels like a more grown up version of Christianity tbh ☦️🙏🕊️
@@Dad_In_The_Box I joined for the reasons you detail, I didn't join through disgruntlement with the RC's. I firmly believe that a person can join through any reason though because they will definitely find Christ there and remain because of that reason ☦️🙏🕊️
I’m considering moving over to the Eastern Orthodox Church too from the CofE. I believe that the spiritual and liturgical fullness of Orthodoxy, the love for tradition and scripture, will help me draw closer to Christ. That’s all I want really and I feel the way Anglicanism is headed it won’t be possible for me to do so should I remain CofE.
i started going to EO Catechumen classes. in the end I fell back to being RC SIMPLY because the EO Liturgy has no silence. I need the silence of the Traditional Latin Mass. at the EO Liturgy the people were bustling about and talking and there are always wonderful chanting but no silence. I do love the EO Church so much and the TRADITIONAL Catholic Church (not the Vatican II nonsense).
@@marcokite That bustling about and talking shouldn't be the norm, but it's common place, certainly in the more ethnic churches. I attended a couple of EO churches before I found an open non-ethnic one that's quiet as can be, full of people paying attention. Admittedly, there are very few options like that UK wide. To anyone struggling to find a new home, I wish you very well.
I've never understood Anglicanisn. Priest ordination is believed to be from apostle succession but surely that was broken when Henry v111 created his own Bishop synod. Even in the 60s apostasy was taking place when the church of England approved female priests, divorce n the use of contraception for married couples despite God wanting us to multiply, this in itself destroyed Christian family values. Anglicanism also kept 2 out of the 7 sacraments despite thinking only 2 of them were symbolic. I think Anglicans need to realise a church can't function without universal dogma and degree. Our church in Rome is the closest we have to that.
As a Catholic I couldn't be apart from the Eucharist, the very Body Blood Soul and Divinity of our Lord. It would break me and is so integral to my relationship with Christ. Love your content Fr.
@@helenbond8893: True. But the difference is that during a Catholic Mass the bread and wine become the actual Body and Blood of Christ, whereas at the Anglican service they remain bread and wine.
@@alhilford2345 No, it is no different at all. I am an Anglican but I am also a Lay Marist so much of my time I attend a Catholic mass. The Catholics are often surprised to discover that many Anglicans take the mass and Transubstansiation much more seriously than most Catholics. Many Anglican churches remain PRE Vatican ii, and find the average Post Vatican ii Catholic mass to be not as reverend towards the Sacrament than they are comfortable with
@@helenbond8893 : I can appreciate your sincerity and devotion, but the simple fact is that in a non-Catholic Service you are receiving bread and wine. If you are Anglican then I draw to your attention the Thirty-Nine Articles of Faith. Number 28: "...Transubstantiation ( or the change of the substance of bread and wine) in the Supper of the Lord, cannot be proved by holy Writ; but is REPUGNANT to the plain words of Scripture, overthroweth the nature of a Sacrament, and hath given occasion to MANY SUPERSTITIONS. The Body of Christ is given, taken and eaten, in the Supper, ONLY AFTER A HEAVENLY AND SPIRITUAL MANNER .. " (The emphasis is mine.) There is more to Article 28 but I think this gives us the picture. Any Anglican who believes that he is receiving the actual Body and Blood of Christ is going against the official doctrine of the Church of England.
Thank you for all your help and advice it is much appreciated, I am now going to a baptist church and am very happy now God bless you and all your family for your faithfulness 🙏
The Eastern Orthodox Church, the "Royal Path" is a jewel in this world. Ancient Christianity passed down without change from the time of Christ. The Church has the original oral traditions of the Apostles and the mysticism and beauty inside the churches gives you a foretaste of heaven.
@@Jrayhood Divorce and contraception are fought against by the orthodox church. All over orthodox countries family values come first. That explains no child abuse, homosexuality, low rate of divorce, the use of drugs. It's a different and healthier culture,discreet in the same time.
Huge respect to you for actually suggesting changing from Anglican to a completely different denomination ie RC and EO. Just goes to show how important a topic this is to you
Cradle Unitarian to age 14, Anglo-Catholic 58 years, received into local plain vanilla Catholic Church two years ago. Never imagined I would do this. An hour with Cardinal Joseph Zen was the final tap. No question the right decision. Rome is simply more serious. I loved Anglicanism, but I watched it collapse. I was there when the roof fell in. Nazir Ali is correct. Rome has her problems. Still, I believe that is where the best of surviving 0:31 Anglicanism now leads us.
Ordinariate bro here: by heart goes out to you and what you're going through. Anglicanism at its best is one of the greatest expressions of Protestantism and whilst I mourn the apostasy of the C of E, I rejoice that orthodox alternatives are going to begin to gain critical mass, bolstered by the move of laity and celebrity curate Dn Calvin , to become viable and more mainstream churches within Britain that so desparately needs the Gospel.
I live in the sticks in Northumberland, there are very few options - Methodists (as woke and I am not low church) and Catholic.. so I am joining the Catholic Church
@@paulowens6004 While it is true that a great portion of the catholic clergy go hand in hand with the anglican ones, catholic faith and doctrine is not defined by the clergy and they have absolutely no authority to make any changes on Catholic teachings (although they can by means of simulations of act and speech, namely, lies and hipocrisy). Is true also that our friend here is jumping from the fridge into the fire, but this fire is nothing less than the Holy Spirit's fire. Such fire will surely purge him from any error he may have embraced in his life while being a member of the anglican church. Unlike the church of england, the Catholic Church will never be destroyed by the devil.
@@paulowens6004 the Catholics have their issues with woke but there's a BIG difference, the Roman Church has a Magisterium, the Anglican does not. It takes decades to drive any serious change in the Roman Church, there is simply no way it could decide one day that 'our clever Bishops read the bible and God says its OK to bless gay weddings'. This is why the Catholic Church has survived for 2000 years. It doesn't matter how eccentric a Pope is, there's not a lot any one Pope can do to make huge theological changes.
While I am a Catholic and believe that Catholicism is the fullness of Faith, I would encourage Anglicans to stay and fight. If the heretics are allowed to win, the salvation of others and of future generations are in peril. However, if one becomes convinced that the fullness of the Faith lies elsewheree, you should follow your conscience.
I live in the USofA and, as a Brit, joined the Episcopal Church and stayed for years and years. Finally when I had had enough, I explored the Roman Catholic Church. On April 8th at the Easter Vigil, I will be received in Full Communion into the Roman Catholic Church❣️❣️❣️ Hallelujah 🙏
There are many good people who are Roman Catholics, but the heirarchy of that church is utterly corrupt, and it is not a Christian church. Maybe you need to read the Holy Bible-it takes about a year and the King James version is the most accurate translation, I think. I sense you Re someone who wants to "fit in" to a group, and Catholicism can give the impression of being a good community, and the repitious prayer to Mary, the Rosary, is calming to some people. But they removed the 2nd commandment from their church and they have an horrific record of paedophilia and the murder or selling of the children of unwed mothers. Their present pope, francis, has openly blasphemed against God and against my Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, on many occasions. It is my honest opinion that the Roman Catholic religion is a false, deceptive and utterly corrupt religion. I say this not out of any hate, but out of Christian love for you and concern for your welfare. I was born into a Roman Catholic family, neighbourhood, churxh, school etc and I have known dome very good people who wete Roman Cathilic, but I left the Roman Catholic church at the age of 14. I hope you make the right choice, for God's sake. He loves you, you are His precious child, and He does not want you to be lost. GOD BLESS YOU, IN JESUS' NAME I PRAY, AMEN.
@@lauraswann5543 You need to tell all this to my Graduate Theology professors I guess....1) If the only church you go to has no sinners, it isn't Christian, its fake 2) The ORIGINAL hierarchy had a guy named Judas--who betrayed Jesus to death, and Peter, the first Pope, who denied Him. 3) Read Romans 2, you are throwing many stones...be careful you dont' get what you dole out
A lifelong Anglican, we left The Episcopal Church in 2014, tired of the sex and gender wars. We tried the ACNA for a bit, but, upon the advice of a friend we attended an Orthodox Divine Liturgy. We went through Great Lent and Pascha, and have never looked back. In 2019 we were Chrismated (in our late 50s). My only regret is not doing this decades earlier.
@@samanthathompson9812 If you are in America, go to an Antiochian or on OCA parish. Even a ROCOR parish. They are mostly American converts and not as ethnic-centered.
I never wanted to leave the Episcopal church, but then the radical changes. Now the COE itself! Since I'm currently living in East Europe, I'm looking at the Orthodox Church. Sad times. May God save us all.
I moved from CoE to Pentecostal (Assemblies of God). I don't regret it. I was "low church" CoE so the transition wasn't too difficult. I miss a bit of the liturgical nature of the CoE but overall, I am very happy where I am now. The renewed emphasis on the Holy Spirit has opened my spiritual journey to a new dimension.
Greetings from Ireland 🇮🇪. Happy Saint Patrick's day. Thanks for covering this. Much of what you say applies to the Church of ireland situation. The Church of ireland hasn't gone astray to the extent as C of E but it's not far behind.
@@Jrayhood I did read the history of the church in the British Isles, and he is right. They were Orthodox before Augustine came. The Orthodox decided that since Rome had the numbers and the resources they would step aside.
I’m thinking of going over to the Eastern Orthodox Church. Here in Britain there’s seemingly more continuity with the historical Church of England and British Christianity generally in Orthodoxy than in the CofE. British saints are venerated for example, there seems to be an effort to engage with the ancient rites and traditions that are distinctive to Britain, and of course there’s absolutely zero political or popular influence. It seems there’s so much more spiritual and liturgical fullness and richness in Orthodoxy and a genuine sense of love for tradition and scripture. I’m a relatively new convert from atheism and I really wanted to be a part of the cultural and historical heritage of my national church. But scripture and tradition and orthodoxy don’t appear to be very important to contemporary Anglicanism anymore. It’s very sad really.
@@Jrayhood Western Rite? Celtic Saints? Pre-schism Christianity in the British Isles? Orthodox churches that aren't linked to Constantinople and Moscow? Capitals? E.V. Smith is not remotely wrong in their comment. What a way to respond to a new convert.
@@JrayhoodThe russian orthodox church does not run other orthodox churches. It's not like in catholicism where a pope is the leader. Greeks, romanians and not only, don't obey in any shape or form Moscow orthodox church. It's not by accident woke culture and homosexuality have a really hard time infiltrating orthodoxy. So happens to about family values. The vibe remembers the times of Jesus and you don't see the opulence of Vatican or other catholic cathedrals but modesty. No child abuses as well. Worth trying. And the best part... the orthodox Easter ! The Holy Light in Jerusalem on Resurrection, only in orthodoxy.
Lots of wisdom here, much appreciated. Particularly appreciate your respect of other denominations with whom you differ on style and theology. Those of us who are faithfully trying to follow Christ need to stand closer together and learn from each other.
Thank you Brett, I have already ex- communicated myself and feel that the only way to defend Christianity is to join Rome, with all her faults a worldwide movement to restore and revive the message of Jesus Christ.
@@geordiewishart1683 maybe because you destroyed all the monasteries and killed the Faithful Catholics...but my ancestors escaped here to the US and we know your story...
I'd add to the list of options the Evangelical Connexion of the Free Church of England, which is a small group of churches who are very faithful to the Word. They are firmly Reformed and uphold the Westminster Confession of Faith, so a good option for those who subscribe to the doctrines of grace.
We have left the ECFCofE. Their stated position is though they are still on paper Episcopal, they have developed a Congregational feel and the leadership is no longer Episcopate based. Suffice it to say their attitude and correspondence with us on leaving drove us further away.
The Free Church of England has had its problems, including High Church tendencies - witness FATHER Calvin Robinson becoming a deacon and being in charge of a congregation! The Evangelical Connexion of the Free Church of England was formed to re-assert a more Biblical and Evangelical emphasis; and it is possible that something of an anti-episcopal attitude may have developed - but one of the principles of even the Free Church of England is that Bishops are not of the essence (“esse”), but only of the good essence (“bene esse”) of the Church - a position taken by not a few Anglican divines over the centuries. I am not a member of either FCE or ECFCE; but I am currently studying ECFCE and studying the 1988 edition of the FCE/ECFCE prayer Book. There is the problem that the few churches of both FCE and ECFCE are scattered, concentrated in the north and south of England but absent elsewhere.
@alex Christ Church Leigh-on-Sea voted to leave the ECFCE in May 2021, although they had fellowship with them until recently. I do not know of any other EC churches in the South. Calvin's defending the biblical faith in the Oxford Union debate is worth viewing. FC of E is a member of GAFCON, which is meeting soon. I do not know if FC of E will be represented there.
@@elizabethpotter4938 Calvin as an individual is admirable, and his performances are praiseworthy; but, what is happening in an “evangelical” grouping that can have a “father” as a minister? And has GAFCON begun to drift towards High Church tendencies?
@alex Guess we will have to just watch this space. After rejection by C of E, Calvin needed a home, as we all know. I find myself having to overlook the Father business (I am a former RC), as I do for others too. Content and witness matter and room to grow to become like me 😉.
As a roman catholic saddened by our own events. I say stay your course contend the faith. We are His Kings and Priests, us together we are The Overcomers. United we travel under His one Holy Name to gather up others because our journey is the same Be beacons of truth to light the way along the narrow road to heaven where Jesus promises lay We will stumble and we will fall but we will lift and raise each other through the greatest love of all. The at our journeys end met by the promise of ALL time and be blessed to spend eternity in the arms of the Divine. God bless you all. 🙏
Oh gracious me, this is very sad to hear. The great tribulation is upon us already!! Im an English woman and Ive lived in a Bhuddist country for the past 20 yrs and as a Christian I am welcomed, loved and given peaceful space at my local temple. I can honestly say they have helped make me a better Christian than I ever was before and the consciousness of Christ comes easily. Sending out love to you all. You are in my prayers.
I was brought up Roman Catholic, but have always had questions about certain aspects and innovations of doctrine and the legalism in RC approach. When I discovered Eastern Orthodoxy, the ethos was so different. The absolute assurance of the theology which had been worked out and established in the early centuries from the Apostles is unchanged and unchanging, which is such a reassurance. When you mention that going to other groups may require someone to change their own theology, that brings up the question... do you want a theology that 'suits you', or do you seek truth? Forming your theology to suit you is self-centric, and surely the approach should be to be Christ-centric and Church-centric. I can really understand your advice to find a splinter group of Anglicanism that suits the individual, or a Baptist of Pentecostal parish where someone can feel comfortable. But, I was really surprised with your comment at 6:00 where you suggest that someone's doctrine and theology are "for the most part, secondary things". Although I vehemently disagree with you on that, you are absolutely right when you followed on by saying "Being loyal to Jesus is meant to be costly - to be difficult and involve sacrifice to walk the narrow path". That is true for all of us, not just those of us who maybe unhappy where they are. Doctrine and theology of Eastern Orthodoxy is not 'pick and mix' according to what you may prefer, but is a wholehearted embrace of what has been handed down from Christ's early Church. This is what may be very difficult for some, but very reassuring for others. It maybe worth people investigating what Orthodoxy really is, rather than what has been reinvented by individuals and become a new orthodoxy over recent centuries in all it's fragmentations. During the period when the Anglican Church took on women priests, many Anglicans went to RC Church and also very many to Eastern Orthodoxy. The Orthodox Church's approach is to accept people on the Church's terms. It is a 'Spiritual Hospital' for the care of souls and help on their path towards salvation. As long as people approach with humility, then all the 'strangeness' becomes unimportant, and the difficulties of what is likely to be a new theology become easy with the grace of God. Maybe it's because people have wanted to do things their own way and rely on their own ideas of theology and worship that there are so many fractures and small groups in Protestantism and the Anglican Church. Listening to you explain the possible options of where people could go is saddening, and it emphasises that fragmentation. I was so fortunate to have been guided to the Orthodox Church, which has many of it's own faults, as Christ's Church on earth is populated by sinners. People my have problems with ethnicity of many Orthodox Churches in the UK, with Greek, Russian, Romanian, Antiochian and other ethnic churches that form the whole. I belong to a wonderful thriving rural Greek Orthodox parish in Shropshire, which has Greeks, Cypriots, Romanians, Ethiopians, Ukrainians, but is primarily English converts - and the Liturgy is in English, with some Greek added now and then. There's lots of incense (We read in Revelations that there's likely to be a lot of incense in Heaven!). Of course, Eastern Orthodox form of worship is radically different from any Western Christian worship, as it comes from a basis of Jewish worship which was developed as Christian Liturgy formed. As an Englishman, it felt very new and exotic at first, but full of Scripture and teaching throughout. The fasting routines done by the Church as a whole is a wonderful spiritual discipline, and the understanding of Scripture which was worked out through the rich Tradition of writings by the early Fathers and Saints of the Church means there's no splintering into different factions of belief. It's the understanding of the Scripture that the Orthodox Church formulated as it compiled the Bible which we all now use. For people looking to explore the potential in Eastern Orthodoxy for themselves, look up Orthodox sites for information, as that is where you'll learn what Orthodoxy really is and believes, rather than reading what non-Orthodox say about it, which is often a total misunderstanding of Orthodoxy. If you think Eastern Orthodoxy is too far away from where you are... my small parish received over 20 new members last year who were primarily Free Evangelicals who'd been searching the True Church, and some others who weren't previously Christian but had been searching. They'd all simply come along to find out about it after reading up on it. It hasn't been an easy journey for them, but now they are all very active and keen members in the community. If anyone is curious, then my advice would simply be to check out where your local Orthodox church is and just turn up for a Liturgy. Nobody will pressure you or try to convert you. That's not the Orthodox way. Even if it's just to experience an Orthodox Liturgy, it may help, even if you never return again. But it might help in your journey. My heart goes out to you, as I understand the very real difficulties you all have. Praying for you.
you should seriously consider joining the eastern catholic church just like many EO monks and priests do recently . contraception nd divorce are apostolic teaching? who is right about authority ? moscow ? constantinople? which is the right side of schism within EO? how about the very poor sacramental theology?
@@Jrayhood You are jesting, I assume. It's the sacramental theology of the Roman Church that has moved away from Orthodox theology. Orthodox theology hasn't wavered or changed since the Great Schism between east and west. The questions of patriarchal authority between Orthodox jurisdictions has been going on for centuries, and always get resolved eventually. BUT, they are united about faith and doctrine. If people change their faith from the faith of the early Orthodox Catholic faith to what has became a heterodox and in some ways a heretical Church in Rome, then that's up to them and you. But to make internal politics more important than the Faith of the Church is foolish. So, no. Of course I wouldn't consider going back.
I pray for miraculous provision for ministers and congregates who are at these cross roads. Seek first the Kingdom of God and ALL these things shall be added to you. I pray for financial support, emotional support as well as physical as you need it. May God's peace guide you. "Be still and know that I am God". Who is God? He is our provider, our healer, our shelter, our banner of Hope, our peace, our protector our guide,, our Savior, our Father, our Brother that gave His life for us. My prayers are with you all ❤
@@geordiewishart1683: How. You should explain, otherwise this is just a mindless complaint from someone who, obviously, doesn't like the Catholic Church.
I was born into an Anglican family in Australia and served as a lay minister in the Anglican Church but i left the church over 30 years ago as even in the 1990's with an influx of female clergy I could see the woke writing on the wall. I was very warmly embraced by the Russian Orthodox Church outside Russia and have spent the last 30 years within the embrace of this Church. Thanks be to God.
As advised in this telecast, please pray before leaving your church because it might take many decades before you find another. I was brought up Methodist and was affiliated with its beavers, cubs and scouts. In church, the sermons were about social justice and the latest third world crisis (Mrs Jellyby?) In the interim, I went to the neighbourhood's Independent Methodist Church and I was struck by the Bible stories, which I loved. In my teens I attended an Elim Pentecostal church and I saw the Book of Acts in action and my childhood asthma was healed through Bible Study. Alas I wasn't part of the praise band so I drifted. This was 30 years ago and I haven't attended at church since although I regret it every day.
SJW and Mrs. Jellyby focus hits the nail on the head. I've been mining youtube videos of a small Lutheran Missouri Synod church in Delaware: the older ministers are still knowledgeable about the Old Testament and its significance, true nature of man, historical and biblical importance of scripture and are able to stay traditional (some might call conservative) but not fundamentalist.
Catholic theologian here. Whilst I recommend Catholicism, some form of Eastern Orthodoxy has a very great deal to recommend it. If you can get to London, talk to Fr. Shnork Bagadassarian at the Armenian Orthodox church in Kensington Square, and tell him I sent you. He is an extremely well qualified theologian, as well as being a naturally kind and patient man.Remember too that the Eastern Orthodox allow local priests to be married.
Although claiming to be a Catholic theologian, you appear to be endorsing the schismatic Orthodox religious group that broke away from the Catholic Church in the eleventh century. Why?
I would like to submit Confessional Lutheranism for consideration as a viable option that is true to God's Word and is not too terribly different theologically from the CofE (though, yes, there are differences).
A very godly friend of mine left an Aussie Anglican diocese that lost its way and became a Lutheran pastor. Thanks for the contribution to the discussion brother
True but the risks of heresy and a 'clique' forming are dangerous. A house church is great option under the authority of a GAFCON Bishop, the Free Church of England is open to this as often house churches in other parts of the world have grown to full worshipping communities!
@@RevBrettMurphy ...risk of heresy you say and yet the 'church' is eating itself up as an institution and heresy abounds! The house church is a great solution but what they forget is that the original house church was Jewish and they also still attended Synagogue at that time. The Jewish origins of the faith are often overlooked and misunderstood.
I pray for Anglicans. My late father, grandfather and great grandfather were a respected Rectors and Vicars. In the 1960s my dad produced and printed the first publicity leaflets for the SPUC. I left the C of E for lots of reasons but love my brothers and sisters in the Anglican Communion. Our ancestry goes back to Cotton and Increase Mather who took congregationalism to the USA so I come from pretty "ecclesiastical stock. Another ancestor, E.J. Mather founded the Royal National Mission to Deep Sea Fishermen in Queen Victoria's time. Pentecostal churches are riddled with heresy too, especially those embracing the NAR and the prosperity "gospel" - The true body of Christ is described in that old hymn, "The Church's One Foundation!" I am forever grateful to my parents for my Christian upbringing and I grieve for the Anglican churches. In my 20s, I embraced the promotion of female pastoral oversight for want of a better word. Being female and "Hot for God" in my early 20s, I really thought I was God's woman of power for the hour! I was accepted to train at the same Anglican Theological College in Bristol that my father and uncle had trained at, but I couldn't take up my place because of lack of funds and I couldn't see myself as either a parish worker or a deaconess as this was well before the introduction of female vicars etc. I am so glad though, because I now believe that males and females have equal but differeing roles. Equal in the sight of God but differing in identity. After, marriage, parenthood, grandparenthood and over 40 years later, I have learned a great deal. I have come across too many overly strong women doing so much damage to God's plan for the uniqueness of male and female and that they complement one another. Times ahead will be difficult but be of good cheer, in Him we have the victory! Biblical tenets are there for a reason. I weep for the state of the Body of Christ in the western world. Every denomination is beset with trials. However, the Refiner's Fire will do its job; We have seen the wheat and tares grow up together and it is now the painful time when the harvest is coming in and not one of us wants to be a tare!
Thank you, Fr. Brett, for clarifying the confusion with which I have struggled for the last 3 years. Full communion was denied, and masking required during the Covid thing. I felt that Caesar had crossed the line and stopped attending. When communion was resumed, our deacon openly declared himself to be a Marxist, and that was the last straw for me. I did not return but continued to "home church", and I fully understand what you mean by stressing community. Your talk has given me something to think about, and I am glad to know about the other options.
Praying for wisdom and discernment for you brother. I agree about bowing to Ceasar during the pandemic. It was rough in the UK but I was still thankful to be here, in my homeland in Aus churches literally banned people who were "unmedicated"...Christ have mercy!
@@claireowens2250 Sorry, Claire, I don't follow you. It has been my understanding that a vicar is any ordained clergyman who substitutes for the bishop. It has been the custom in our parish since I have attended there to address the minister as Fr. Firstname or Fr. Lastname or just Firstname, as the minister wishes. Our current deacon, due to his devout Marxism, would perhaps best be addressed as Comrade Lastname. If I am incorrect, please ask Fr. Brett.
@@claireowens2250 Vicar is the job description (a cleric who runs a parish church) Priest is the vocation. All vicars are priests, not all priests are vicars.
Most of my Christian experience has been in a Baptist church Due to house moves I had a period attending a Charismatic Anglican Church and following a further move am now in an independent Charismatic church Although I had many good years in the Baptist church can I recommend that anyone who is considering joining one to carefully check with the leadership their theology on this matter Each Baptist church is autonomous and there is a movement operating within some Baptist churches to move them on a congregation by congregation basis in the same direction as the CofE now finds itself So by all means consider this option but do the due diligence before you commit!
In Elijah's day there were 7000 people in israel who did not bow the knee to Baal. Take heart, there are a lot more today who will not bow the knee. Pray the Lord will lead such, however scattered, into fellowship one with another. The KJBible is the final authority in all matters of faith and doctrine. Jesus said, " keep my words and keep my commandments" There is only one Lord, one faith, one baptism. May we never stray from his waist by heeding false doctrine,. May the Lord bless us and keep us close to himself.
I'm an American Episcopalian and unhappy with my church but the closest ACNA parishes are low church with contemporary music and worship. There isn't a place for a high church conservative Anglican like myself. Perhaps Eastern Orthodox.
Maybe contact the ACNA and find out if there are others in you area interested in starting a mission. You might be meeting in someone's living room at first, but a church has to start somewhere.
It might be worth it to look for a good Lutheran church near you. There is the Missouri Synod, Wisconsin Synod, the Evangelical Lutheran Synod, and the American Association of Lutheran Churches. (All are national Church bodies despite the names.)
Come out of Her O my people spoke to me many years ago when the Word of God began to take root in my heart. and showed me the errors of the Roman Catholic Church. I was seeking the Lord because the beliefs of the Church began crashing down around me. I totally understand how so many will be feeling. Take heart Jesus said seek and you will find, knock and the door will be opened unto you. That's his promise, that's His word. Hallelujah He led me into a deep relationship with Him. My Children four of them are committed Christians and it was a joy to bring them up.
Join GAFCON, remove the satanic bishops or RUN! I wouldn’t let a religion of very creepy men to slowly get into your mind or the minds of your children and lead you straight to the depths of hell.
I want to find out what the impact of Ordaining Women Priests on Church attendance? Whatever is is it’s buried very deep which leaves me to conclude it’s Negative. If half a dozen Churches had one new member each, It would have been on the front page of the Guardian. Could someone enlighten me please?
I now go to small evangelical church that believes in the 5 pillars of Christianity: Sola Scriptura Sola Fide Sola Gratia Solo Cristo Soli Deo Gloria. The Bible is the Final authority for truth and wisdom. Jesus is the Truth.
A lot could be said on this subject . Thank You for sharing , i personaly don't belong to ANY kind of Religeous Denomination , but belong to " Christ " . Your points towards the end i see as being important . Great to see that You & Others are standing up to Biblical Truth . I see a lot of the current situation within Christian Denominations , as God shaking up the Church ( Body of people NOT denomination ) especially in the Western English Speaking World where we have had it relatively easy up till now . God Bless !
5:40 You give a list of options, but fail to include the Catholic Church (although the Ordinariate is Catholic) which is the church that Jesus started ..... just sayin'. There is also AMiE, the "Anglican Mission in England" which you went onto mention. May God bless you in your discernment
I was watching expecting for him to mention the Catholic Church... why didn't he mentioned the only one and true Church that should be seriously considered?
@Jorge A. Gomes because just as he knows that the C of E is preaching more and more heresy, he also knows that it broke from Peter "the rock" on whom Jesus founded the church to which we should take our disputes. The C of E was founded in adultery and divorce, and its apostasy is inevitable
Too all those considering leaving the CoE or other churches, I'd recommend looking first at local options that are the same as what you believe but separate, and second at other historical branches of Christianity: Roman Catholic, Protestant, & Orthodox. Some changes in theology or doctrine may ring true for you, I'd encourage you to listen, study, and pray. I'd start by seeking those that are faithful to our text as well as their history and their traditions.
There's a world of difference between Roman Catholic (I think you mean Latin Rite Catholic), Protestant and Orthodox. The only traditional one is Catholic. Protestant has been around for five hundred years, Orthodox about a thousand years, Catholic for two thousand years. The Catholic Church is the only Church that Our Lord Jesus Himself left us. He called it "My Church"!
Sometimes people need to make compromises on secondary issues to remain in genuine daily fellowship with Christians in a local church. I was brought up as a Presbyterian in N.Ireland but now have lived in Scotland for 20 years. There is no way I could remain in the Church of Scotland and so about 12 years ago when our doctrinally sound minister in the CofS retired we started looking around for a new spiritual home. We now worship in an independent evangelical church which is essentially baptist in doctrine. Not completely comfortable with that since I believe the children of believers are worthy of receiving the sign of the God's covenant in baptism but they do at least 'dedicate' children in which Christian parents are required to make promises to bring the child up in 'the nurture and admonition of the Lord and teach unto them the truths and duties of the Christian faith' or modern words to that effect. I joke with our Pastor that it is a pretty good baptism, pity about the missing water. Apart from that we are very happy and well supported as a family in our Church fellowship and I am allowed to lead a small bible study group despite not being baptised as they would see it. Make of that what you will. God Bless.
I’m a Catholic, a fellow Christian and believer in our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and this breaks my heart… to see a steadfast pastor of the faith to have to give guidance to the flock on where to go as the church of his faith implodes. My heart breaks for you. Prayers sent with prayers!😢
Another Catholic here. Our Catholic church is heading in a similar direction in some countries. eg the Catholic German bishops wanting to bless same sex unions
Thank you for your prayers, the heartache is indescribable.
It’s all so deeply disturbing, but we all have to hang on to the Truth, that the battle has already been won! Thanks be to God for the gift of our Savior & Lord, Jesus Christ!
But as a Catholic you do not believe in the sufficiency of Christ's death on the Cross. You add works to your faith in Christ... that is not biblical. Ephesians 2: 8-10
@amapola53 This is a lie. The Catechism tells of the sufficiency of Christ's sacrifice. But its salvific grace is not enough to save those who will not repent of their sin. For example, ongoing homosexual acts condemn us to the everlasting fire🔥, as 1 Cor 6 tells us
Praying for you. I was an Anglican clergyman and converted to Catholic Ordinariate. It took me ten years of discerning and anguish. Anglicanism nurtured my early faith for which I am grateful. I am so pleased to be able to treasure Anglican traditions in the Catholic church. Blessings on you all.
@@ChristianPatriarchyYou're disgusting. Keep your judgement to yourself and work on your own salvation with fear and trembling
I’m not a priest but I joined the Ordinariate. It is such a relief to all the nonsense behind. I’d recommend any Anglican to do the same. A bonus is that in the Ordinariate you get the BCP services you know and love. You get a very warm welcome.
I was christened CofE as a child, but grew up unreligios. I recently turned 30 and Christianity, for some reason, has been taking my interest. I purchased a bible and started to attend my local Church, but I have given up only 3 weeks in because the lectures were too woke, and I didn't see how it fit in with the Bible.
Here is a quote from a booklet on lent they handed to me:
'Sin is both a power and a behaviour. We don't need- nor are we able to - choose between the two or prioritise one over the other. Perhaps the most obvious example of this is the way the sin of racism has historically shapes and continues to shape the way of our world, particularly in the west, is ordered. One of the revelations of recent thinking on racism is that it is not enough simply to not be racist myself. I must also acknowledge the fact that I am shaped by a history and a society where I have benefitted because of a history of colonialism, racism and oppression.
What is my responsibility in relation to the kind of structural or systematic sin? "
I will continue to read my bible and educate myself, explore my faith individually, until I find a suitable alternative. The majority of the population are not on board with this, and they have lost me, someone who as wanting and willing to attend the church. No wonder their numbers are dwindling.
The first sentence of that pamphlet is good. The rest, I'm afraid, is virtue signalling
Have you looked into Catholicism?
I pray God will guide you to a good home fellowship where Jesus is loved and revered and the believers honour and respect each other, living out the Bible instructions
I 100% share your sentiments and agree with you.
Look for an ACNA congregation.
I started attending the (Eastern) Orthodox Church last year and it was one of the best things I ever did. Glory to God.
I started attending in 2021 and it changed my life significantly, for the better. It's not always easy, but it's always worth it.
except you have the same divisions based on nationality (Serbian, Ukrainian-Russian anyone?, Greek etc) that the Protestants do on doctrine
@@glennlanham6309 no it’s still one church. The Church. Every church has its issues.
@@MrCharlieC23 last point agreed upon, but how do you solve the unity problem? I heard the Patriarch of Constantinople punt (American term meaning he ignored the question) about contraception once....do they have to bring it up in a Pan-Orthodox council? has there ever been one? uncomfortable questions I know...but Jesus DID provide a way to resolve disputes (unless like our current leader, he is a bit spineless)
@@MrCharlieC23 how about in-vitro fertilization, cloning? what does the Bible say about those? morally neutral things? hardly
I live in the US and was raised in the Episcopal Church. After years of prayer and discernment, I made the decision to join the Catholic Church and was received last Easter (2022).
Welcome home.
Welcome home indeed! I came into the church in 2022 as well. I had become Anglican (in theology and practice) before joining Catholicism. I was raised Baptist.
I have a question. What if I don't believe some of what the RC teaches? Seems like it's all or nothing with them.
@@samanthathompson9812may I ask, what teachings do you not agree with? I was once in a similar position but thanks to some catholic apologists I am fully for Catholicism now.
Bless you brother. I joined from the Lutheran church of Sweden. This is home.
So many are leaving now. Thanks Justin Welby
The rot started before he became Archbishop.
@@Ariella-mx3xq4cw6n- he has hastened it.
Catholic here. I pray for all Anglicans that they may find peace at this tumultuous time. 🙏
Thank you so much for praying 🙏
The Catholic Church is just as bad with praying to idols , it’s the reason God kicked out his people out of ISRAEL.the pope is promoting same sex marriage
I Pray for their conversions.
@@gloriabult2967The Catholic Church is Satan's greatest counterfeit so no.
@@spirituallysafe Indeed, Pastor John F. MacArthur has a positively Eye-Opening Series of Sermons on just how Satanic the Papacy truly is, it is well worth a Watch IMO!
I was TEC for several years and finally had to leave when our priest retired and was replaced with a very liberal lesbian priest. She was very kind, but I was unable to remain in the church. I departed without a plan and was without a church home for several years. This was while the ACNA was still in the process of forming. But the Lord urged me to look again and I found a faithful ACNA congregation where I have been worshipping for many years now. It is much further away, but it is worth it to be among faithful believers. My prayers are with all of my C of E brothers and sisters in this time. You all will find your way in time.
Thank you for your faithfulness to our Lord, and for your prayers for CofE Christians. God bless you and your ACNA church family.
and what happens when ACNA goes the way of the rest of the Anglicans? God set up a correction for error, it is the Papacy (and Ecumenical councils)
@Glenn Lanham What makes you think the RCC is proof against this? Especially in the face of many members saying it isn't?
@@glennlanham6309 You mean like Urban VI, or maybe Leo X? Lol! Don't make me laugh!
@@jonb4020 Did they die of Syphillis like the Beloved founding head of your Church? and you know very well the first 30 Popes are canonized martyrs and saints..you have Prince Harry and his race-baiting wife
Dear Rev. As a Roman Catholic, all I can say is that satan is having great time at the moment, he may be aware his time is running out. We Catholics are suffering greatly too at the moment. We need the Lord to come and put a stop to it. MARINATHA . God Bless all His Faithful Soldiers in this great battle.
My wife and I left the Episcopal Church about 10 years ago because of the "progressive" direction in which the church was going. We joined the ACNA (Anglican Church of North America) because of its traditional view of Christian teachings. We are very happy and active in our church.
Welcome! My husband is an ACNA priest and we have had “refugees” from TEC (their words, not mine) join us for worship. How hard for these precious people to leave the church that they’ve invested and nurtured in for years.
@Apriluser I was there for over 30 years but had to leave once they started with gay ordination and gay marriage.
I don't want to convince anyone here, I will pray for all of you who are firm in the faith and in what is written in the Bible, that you will remain steadfast in your faith and find a parish or church that has not fallen into the Zeitgeist. God's blessing 🕊
I haven't heard tahat word since seminary!
I have just discovered you and I’m so thankful I have ! I’m an Evangelical conservative Anglican here in Canada . I’m distressed as to what I hear within the church and I am praying for the decision I have to make ,.
My dear Brother in Christ, you clearly are on the right path, I’m a Roman Catholic,your faith’s inspiring
Very nice to hear your Aussie accent and your wisdom. I’m a Roman Catholic Australian our Catholic Church has lost so much since Vatican 2. Good news is some of the newly ordained priests are far less liberal than their predecessors and more adherent to scripture.
Find a good traditional latin Mass, you will feel at home. You will never regret it. I suggest the Society of Saint Pius X ( SSPX ). They go all over Australia.
As a Catholic my thoughts and prayers are with you, this is now a problem too for our church.
Not if you speak to many priests. Most are not on board with wokeism.
Yes it is! Why I left at 57 years! Many liberal priests who preach tolerance. Finally had enough!
@@KM-zn3lxWhere did you go?
My grandparents left the C of E in 1903! So my late father grew up in the Congregational church. I also grew up in Congregatiomal church very good church but not one close to where I live so I go to the Baptist church. Very hsppy in the Baptist.
" Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, and will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be My sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty."-2nd Cor. 6:17-18.
I have been searching, praying and crying before the Lord for guidance. My heart is broken. Your words of wisdom, Brett, have been a lifeline! Thank you…thank you! God bless and keep you ❤
Rev. Murphy, a few years ago the PCUSA went through something similar with changes to The Book of Order. I was a ordained elder and had to leave the church. After searching i did find what I was looking for within the Catholic Church and have never been more fulfilled spiritually. I pray and hope that my brothers and sisters in the C of E do not despair. Our Lord will guide them to where they need to be. I will be praying for you.
When will you kick out Bishop Justin Welby and undo this nonsense?
There is no provision to kick him out, it’s a political appointment by the prime minister, rubber stamped by the King. Once Welby goes you can probably imagine the sort of person Starmer will appoint.
I have been a high church Anglican for a number of years and after much prayer and discernment, I have found much nourishment and closeness to God in a small independent Evangelical church. Took me greatly by surprise, but loyalty to Jesus is more important than our perceived churchmanship, our establishment loyalties or even our liturgical biases.
God bless you for your honesty and compassion Rev. Murphy, my prayers are with you. And my prayers are with my other brothers and sisters in Christ, whatsoever church they are in or moving to. Ultimately we are bible believing Christians and we will take the narrow path necessary to follow our Saviour.
I too have Anglican Episcopalian roots from my great grandfather Joseph Johnson, but I was brought up Catholic as I also have Irish/ Scots Ulster ancestry. I have come to the conclusion that both faiths have not been faithful to the true Divine Gospel of Jesus. My mom's father was German American Methodist and I have worshipped as one also, but found it recently to be a lukewarm church. I now worship in the Assembly of God, as well as my friend and we have found spiritual fulfilment. I pray that the Anglican Church finds the True Path of Jesus, The Light of the World. I've also worshipped at a local Anglican Church near where I live, the pastor and congregation are very faithful and reverent to the True Gospel of Jesus.
I feel the opposite. Many evangelical churches rely on feelings and your own ideas of what the Bible means, not obeying what it says. I feel that there is no pure denomination left. The pope and all their scandals, the CoE and others....there are always as you say a remnant
@@dawnyoshimura1171 Indeed, I think the faithful remnant is no longer in one denomination or church, but in small pockets of believers scattered across all of them. I hope you've found a good church yourself, it took a very long time and a lot of travel for me.
Thank you Rev Murphy for publishing this video. I have found it full of helpful suggestions worth praying about. May God keep you safe and strong in the ame of Jesus.
Glad it was helpful! May Christ guide and protect you sister.
As a layman I have already been there with this issue - once frozen out of a church unwillingly (and yes it did hurt at the time), and a second occasion when I left an Anglican church where renewal had ground to a halt and dead tradition reasserted itself that my evangelical sensitivities couldn't cope with.
Whilst this can be painful in lost friendships, leaving the human institution called church does not mean leaving God, or more importantly being deserted by God. On the contrary the promise of Jesus _Lo I am with you always_ can become an even greater reality. He may knock in vain on the door of the institutional church but will fellowship with any individual who receives him.
In any event I think for those who take the bible seriously the divisions within denominations can be greater than the historical differences between them.
Humanly speaking the C of E may look like a lost cause, but don't we believe in a God who raises the dead?! Mercy may yet triumph over judgement.
CofE is the synagogue of Satan. Obviously.
The will of God is there for all to see! What don't they understand about how homosexuality is abhorrent to God!
There is division everywhere in c of e! Please read 1 Cor 1:10
@@davidgrosvenor1 they understand it perfectly. Their goal is to degrade Christians to join in their satanic cult.
As a Catholic, my heart goes out to you. I have a firm faith in the divine assistance and protecting God gives to the magisterium, specifically because even with all the chaos going on in Germany, the Church has still consistently said no to the bishops. Even after every Christian denom gave way to the heresies of divorce and contraception, still we stand firm and say no. It is strange that even during the Arian crisis, when most bishops were heretics, the Church was still protected in her magisterium. Glory be to God.
I am a Mere Christian and love the Anglican belief system and particularly the Orthodox branch. The town I am in all our Anglican churches are "woke". My husband and I are looking for a church home. I have prayed for guidance and I know it will come. I am peaceful in that my daily worship is not impacted by not having an official Church to go to. There are many of us out here - like stars in the sky - we shine still!
The Eastern Orthodox Church is the answer to your prayers. If you want, you can check it out.
May I suggest a visit or 10 to a local Orthodox Church. See beyond the congregation, and if it is not in English, ask for a translation for you to follow. May you find your hearts' home xxx
@@katherine3486 Thank you - I have been looking into Orthodox near us. My husbands dad was a Vicar in Wales so it might be harder for him to make a change. Our heart's home, yes.
I was formerly a pastor in a progressive Lutheran denomination in the US - many kind people among the congregations I served, but the worldly direction of the denomation's leadership made it no longer tenable to stay. Even though church forms were largely maintained, the Holy Spirit was absent, and confusion rather than clarity prevailed. Through much prayer the Lord brought me to a few Bible-based churches in another state. Though the church may indeed wander, the Lord is faithful.
God bless all the faithful in England who are discerning how to respond to the Church of England's leadership at this time.
Protestantism is heretical blasphemy, there’s only the one true Catholic and Apostolic Church.
Liberalism is the death of Civilization, Culture, and the Family.
You know....Luther sent the Augsburg Confession to the Orthodox for advice....he even proclaimed, "I stand with the Orthodox!" Sadly, he couldn't get the Orthodox to change their theology based on his interpretations of Scripture....
@@frankherbert6476 Hello, and God's blessings to you today. There may be a little discrepancy historically: yes, Luther did defend the Orthodox Church in debate, holding that they were indeed true Christians, against the counter assertion of his opponents. However, there is no record he held correspondence with the Orthodox Church. Lutheran theologians a few decades after his death - in the mid 1570s - did establish a theological dialogue on the points of the Augsburg Confession, and they did not reach an accord after thorough communication. It remains one of the great 'what-ifs' of ecclesiastical history. God bless you again today, Frank.
The Anglicans and the Orthodox were once very close in the West during the 19th/early 20th century. In the US, Orthodox attended Anglican churches due to the absence of Orthodox parishes. There was an Anglican contingent attending the Pan-Orthodox Congress in 1923, and showed great interest, but did not want to change their theology....This Easter, I suggest attending your local Anglican church. As the Eastern Orthodox Pascha (Easter) is a week later, then attend Holy Week services, if nothing else, the Easter Service. See if this is the worship and faith of those Early Apostolic Fathers and the Apostolic succession (Our jurisdiction, the Antiochians, have their HQ in Damascus.....on a Street Called Straight.) Oh, BTW, a good friend of mine, Father Justin, was on his way to become an Anglican Priest and is now an Orthodox Priest. Anglican clergy can become Orthodox clergy (our Priests can be married).
in regards to change....
"How many Eastern Orthodox does it take to change a lightbulb?"
"What is change?"
"What is a lightbulb?"
There are lots of issues in the Orthodox Church. It would be a lot easier if the parishes weren't filled with human beings. What you will find, is "The faith, once delivered to the saints." You will find no easy path; it is one of constant repentance, stumbling, taking up one's cross daily. Of prostrating oneself and rising, knowing that God became man in order to heal what He assumed, to sanctify the world. In our sanctuaries, you will see our walls lines with our heroes, that great cloud of witnesses who have run the race, and now cheer us on. If the church is built as an Orthodox church (many times we are in other's churches that are abandoned) you need only look up to see who is in charge.
Ask, read, pray. look for discernment. Push yourself. This is serious business.
Oh, and we have baklava!
Greetings from Australia Rev Brett! This whole saga is very sad! I am Roman Catholic, and I remember you in my prayers!
What's the problem, the religion of the English people was stolen from them by the megalomaniac Henry 8 and his aristocratic cronies who enriched themselves and aided and abetted the thugs who murdered about 70,000 English Catholics who would not comply with the new regime whilst they plundered the churches and Monasteries. However the Barque of Peter is still sailing and you are welcome to sign on as crew members anytime. There's a crewing office near you, it's called a local Catholic Parish Church. Sign on Mate and rejoin your forefathers.
The original church in Bri was the Culdee church, that of Patrick.
It was far removed from the errors of Rome
God bless you brother! I am an Anglican evangelical historically but feeling drawn to become a Catholic, but for a range of reasons beyond the current apostasy of the Church of England. I agree that there are significant differences between Anglicans and Catholics (and Orthodox) that have to be taken seriously and such a big jump shouldn't be done hastily without thinking and praying it through. My heart is with everyone who remains true to God's standards of truth and righteousness, because we have far more in common than what separates us. It's important to realise that liberal "Christianity" is actually every bit as unorthodox as the Mormons and the Jehovah's Witnesses, and it's no longer an option to act like they believe in the same faith that we do.
Check out Fr Edward Meeks, and his conversion to the Catholic Church, with his whole congregation!
Former Presbyterian family here who investigated Russian Orthodoxy but we settled on a small traditional Anglican province here in the USA. We're thriving and growing albeit slowly. If you do elect to leave the CoE, please be very clear with your CoE rector why you area leaving: You're looking for an orthodox expression of the historic Christian faith. Some former Roman Catholics who visit our parish tells us that we are more catholic that their own RC congregation. May God forgive us for our carelessness with which we have handled His priceless Gospel.
Mention of the Tractarian movement reminds me of John Henry Newman, and his defection from the Church to Catholicism. That had to do with his failed efforts to get support from his bishop who unfortunately identified as much as a government official as a priest. The same problem presented John Wesley in a different dilemma. The Church rebuffed his successful evangelical efforts by its obsessions with form. In its salad days, the Roman Catholic Church was able to encompass many different approaches by enfranchising religious orders, most famously the Franciscans and Dominicans and the Jesuits. However, the worst result of the Reformation was the dreadful entanglement of religion and politics, and the subordination of the faith to the whims of the princes, national and local. As rule became less personal, the national bureacracies became the real rulers. As religion declined, the Church became more a mere department of State.
Conversion to Rome is to say that nothing really matters. You object to moral deviancy in the CofE but will accept it in Rome. Idolatry, on so many levels, but that's ok because at least they aren't gay? Seriously you know nothing about Catholicism if you would join it and want to be a Christian. You may as well be a Mormon or a Muslim.
Check on Dr. Taylor Marshall who is a converted Roman Catholic. May the Holy Spirit guide you in your journey
After retirement a few years ago I became increasingly dissatisfied with the direction of the C of E. We have worshipped at an independent chapel for a several years that is part of the Countess of Huntingdon Connection. It is Bible-believing, evangelical, very prayerful and is engaged in open-air ministry as well. It has been so refreshing and enlightening. I was invited to become an elder, a great privilege and it is certainly where the Lord wants us. We do pray for those in the C of E who are struggling. Thankyou for your videos, they are clearly helpful and encouraging for many brothers and sisters. Every blessing. Rev. Bryan V. East
Catholic convert of 26 years here....
From the C of E.......
Leave the Anglican church and see where the Lord leads you......
The Personal Ordinariate of Our Lady of Walsingham in England and Wales is a personal ordinariate in full communion with the Pope and the Catholic Church that accepts married Anglican priests to serve as normal Catholic priests.
In the US and Canada, the equivalent is The Personal Ordinariate of the Chair of Saint Peter based in the Cathedral of Our Lady of Walsingham in Houston, Texas as its principal church, with 41 parishes and missions with over 6,000 members in both countries.
In Australia, they have The Personal Ordinariate of Our Lady of the Southern Cross with 15 Australian congregations.
The Roman Catholic Church is heading leftward as well.
@@DavidSmith-sb2ix Seems like it.
Yet, the writing of Pope Benedict expresses what I believe:
"Lord, your church often seems like a boat about to sink, a boat taking in water on every side."
"...learned to let go and to live out of a deep conviction that the Lord does not abandon His Church, even when the boat has taken on so much water as to be on the verge of capsizing."
"...moments when the waters were rough and the winds against us, as throughout the Church’s history.... and the Lord seemed to be sleeping.
But I have always known that the Lord is in that boat, and I have always known that the barque of the Church is not mine but His.
... This has been, and is, a certainty which nothing can shake."
"Again and again the little barque of the Church is ripped apart by the winds of ideologies, whose waters seep into her and seem to condemn her to sink.
Yet, precisely in the suffering Church, Christ is victorious.
In spite of all, faith in Him recovers ever new strength.
The Lord still commands the waters today and shows that He is the Lord of the elements.
He stays in his barque, in the little boat of the Church."
As a Catholic I have to believe that the gates of hell will not prevail against it.
We now have bishops against bishops as certain Marian prophecies predicted.
It is a fearful time.
@DavidSmith-sb2ix Seems like all Christian denominations are undergoing a tsunami of apostasy.
Even in the Catholic church of which I'm a member.
Yet, the writing of Pope Benedict expresses what I believe:
"Lord, your church often seems like a boat about to sink, a boat taking in water on every side."
"...learned to let go and to live out of a deep conviction that the Lord does not abandon His Church, even when the boat has taken on so much water as to be on the verge of capsizing."
"...moments when the waters were rough and the winds against us, as throughout the Church’s history.... and the Lord seemed to be sleeping.
But I have always known that the Lord is in that boat, and I have always known that the barque of the Church is not mine but His.
... This has been, and is, a certainty which nothing can shake."
"Again and again the little barque of the Church is ripped apart by the winds of ideologies, whose waters seep into her and seem to condemn her to sink.
Yet, precisely in the suffering Church, Christ is victorious.
In spite of all, faith in Him recovers ever new strength.
The Lord still commands the waters today and shows that He is the Lord of the elements.
He stays in his barque, in the little boat of the Church."
I have to believe that the gates of hell will not prevail against it.
In the Catholic church we now have bishops against bishops as certain Marian prophecies predicted.
It is a fearful time.
@@DavidSmith-sb2ix :
Correction:
Some 'Catholics' may be going off course, and it's been that way since the year 33AD...
But the Catholic Church itself can never fail...
We have God's promise on that!
Brett, I’m an academic theologian working here in the UK, specifically in the Derbyshire area. Very much enjoy your output. The suggestions here are very good.
I made the decision to leave the cofe in 2011, even though I was pursuing ordination. I eventually found myself at a Congregational church, and I could talk for hours about what it’s been like to be an exilic Anglican in those contexts. It’s not always easy, but it’s critically important.
With a fellow academic and friend (who also left the cofe), we wrote a treatise called ‘exilic anglicanism’ upon our departure. Reading it now feels spookily prescient.
The Anglican Church (as opposed to the anti religious woke commune dossing out at All Saints) in Derbyshire must find it particularly difficult when their episcopacy is so mired in apostacy. Libby the liberal needed to demonstrate an understand of the Bible before she was placed in a position of 'leadership' in the Church. The rainbow brigades reign will be short but the damage they are inflicting upon the Church will possibly bring the C of E crashing down upon their heads. I'm waiting ( in the name of inclusivity and diversity) for the first witch to be installed in the Cathedral Chapter!.
My God bless you for your stand for orthodoxy and God's truth.
Is this treatise anywhere in the public domain? I wouldn’t mind a read.
Would love to read this treatise if possible
All those are chapels. The Church as an institution was founded by saint Peter in Antioch and is still there. ua-cam.com/video/Nux3bZtO7sk/v-deo.html
You do very well with this heart breaking and touchy subject.
I have joined the Eastern Orthodox Church from Roman Catholicism. It's totally different from anything I've ever experienced and is fully confident in its preaching of Biblical truths. It feels like a more grown up version of Christianity tbh ☦️🙏🕊️
@@Dad_In_The_Box I joined for the reasons you detail, I didn't join through disgruntlement with the RC's. I firmly believe that a person can join through any reason though because they will definitely find Christ there and remain because of that reason ☦️🙏🕊️
I’m considering moving over to the Eastern Orthodox Church too from the CofE. I believe that the spiritual and liturgical fullness of Orthodoxy, the love for tradition and scripture, will help me draw closer to Christ. That’s all I want really and I feel the way Anglicanism is headed it won’t be possible for me to do so should I remain CofE.
i started going to EO Catechumen classes. in the end I fell back to being RC SIMPLY because the EO Liturgy has no silence. I need the silence of the Traditional Latin Mass. at the EO Liturgy the people were bustling about and talking and there are always wonderful chanting but no silence. I do love the EO Church so much and the TRADITIONAL Catholic Church (not the Vatican II nonsense).
@@marcokite That bustling about and talking shouldn't be the norm, but it's common place, certainly in the more ethnic churches. I attended a couple of EO churches before I found an open non-ethnic one that's quiet as can be, full of people paying attention. Admittedly, there are very few options like that UK wide. To anyone struggling to find a new home, I wish you very well.
I've never understood Anglicanisn. Priest ordination is believed to be from apostle succession but surely that was broken when Henry v111 created his own Bishop synod.
Even in the 60s apostasy was taking place when the church of England approved female priests, divorce n the use of contraception for married couples despite God wanting us to multiply, this in itself destroyed Christian family values.
Anglicanism also kept 2 out of the 7 sacraments despite thinking only 2 of them were symbolic.
I think Anglicans need to realise a church can't function without universal dogma and degree. Our church in Rome is the closest we have to that.
Western rite Orthodoxy is booming abroad.
Great message. God bless and much prayers.🧡
"The Catholic Church has the greatest saints and the greatest sinners. The Church of England has the respectable people. "
Oscar Wilde
That's why it was called the Story Party at prayer. No room for the common working Englishman and family.
@@eleveneleven572- I think you'll find there are many leftists now in the CofE which is contributing to it's downfall.
As a Catholic I couldn't be apart from the Eucharist, the very Body Blood Soul and Divinity of our Lord. It would break me and is so integral to my relationship with Christ. Love your content Fr.
The Anglicans hold the Eucherist with the same reverance as the Catholics, in some Anglican churches even more so then Catholics. God Bless
@@helenbond8893:
True.
But the difference is that during a Catholic Mass the bread and wine become the actual Body and Blood of Christ, whereas at the Anglican service they remain bread and wine.
@@alhilford2345 No, it is no different in an Anglican mass to a Catholic
@@alhilford2345 No, it is no different at all. I am an Anglican but I am also a Lay Marist so much of my time I attend a Catholic mass. The Catholics are often surprised to discover that many Anglicans take the mass and Transubstansiation much more seriously than most Catholics. Many Anglican churches remain PRE Vatican ii, and find the average Post Vatican ii Catholic mass to be not as reverend towards the Sacrament than they are comfortable with
@@helenbond8893 :
I can appreciate your sincerity and devotion, but the simple fact is that in a non-Catholic Service you are receiving bread and wine.
If you are Anglican then I draw to your attention the Thirty-Nine Articles of Faith.
Number 28:
"...Transubstantiation ( or the change of the substance of bread and wine) in the Supper of the Lord, cannot be proved by holy Writ; but is REPUGNANT to the plain words of Scripture, overthroweth the nature of a Sacrament, and hath given occasion to MANY SUPERSTITIONS.
The Body of Christ is given, taken and eaten, in the Supper, ONLY AFTER A HEAVENLY AND SPIRITUAL MANNER .. "
(The emphasis is mine.)
There is more to Article 28 but I think this gives us the picture.
Any Anglican who believes that he is receiving the actual Body and Blood of Christ is going against the official doctrine of the Church of England.
Thank you for all your help and advice it is much appreciated, I am now going to a baptist church and am very happy now God bless you and all your family for your faithfulness 🙏
The Eastern Orthodox Church, the "Royal Path" is a jewel in this world. Ancient Christianity passed down without change from the time of Christ. The Church has the original oral traditions of the Apostles and the mysticism and beauty inside the churches gives you a foretaste of heaven.
apostolic traditions like divorce and contraception?
@@Jrayhood Divorce and contraception are fought against by the orthodox church. All over orthodox countries family values come first. That explains no child abuse, homosexuality, low rate of divorce, the use of drugs. It's a different and healthier culture,discreet in the same time.
Thanks for your gracious outline of the options facing many of my friends.
Huge respect to you for actually suggesting changing from Anglican to a completely different denomination ie RC and EO. Just goes to show how important a topic this is to you
Speaking as a former Episcopalian, I was received into Holy Orthodoxy in 1999. Praised be the merciful Lord for leading me home.
Cradle Unitarian to age 14, Anglo-Catholic 58 years, received into local plain vanilla Catholic Church two years ago. Never imagined I would do this. An hour with Cardinal Joseph Zen was the final tap. No question the right decision. Rome is simply more serious. I loved Anglicanism, but I watched it collapse. I was there when the roof fell in. Nazir Ali is correct. Rome has her problems. Still, I believe that is where the best of surviving 0:31 Anglicanism now leads us.
Ordinariate bro here: by heart goes out to you and what you're going through. Anglicanism at its best is one of the greatest expressions of Protestantism and whilst I mourn the apostasy of the C of E, I rejoice that orthodox alternatives are going to begin to gain critical mass, bolstered by the move of laity and celebrity curate Dn Calvin , to become viable and more mainstream churches within Britain that so desparately needs the Gospel.
I live in the sticks in Northumberland, there are very few options - Methodists (as woke and I am not low church) and Catholic.. so I am joining the Catholic Church
I hope you may find opened doors and arms in the Catholic Church.
Will pray for you. 🙏
Out of the frying pan into the fire.
@@paulowens6004 While it is true that a great portion of the catholic clergy go hand in hand with the anglican ones, catholic faith and doctrine is not defined by the clergy and they have absolutely no authority to make any changes on Catholic teachings (although they can by means of simulations of act and speech, namely, lies and hipocrisy).
Is true also that our friend here is jumping from the fridge into the fire, but this fire is nothing less than the Holy Spirit's fire. Such fire will surely purge him from any error he may have embraced in his life while being a member of the anglican church.
Unlike the church of england, the Catholic Church will never be destroyed by the devil.
@@paulowens6004 the Catholics have their issues with woke but there's a BIG difference, the Roman Church has a Magisterium, the Anglican does not. It takes decades to drive any serious change in the Roman Church, there is simply no way it could decide one day that 'our clever Bishops read the bible and God says its OK to bless gay weddings'. This is why the Catholic Church has survived for 2000 years. It doesn't matter how eccentric a Pope is, there's not a lot any one Pope can do to make huge theological changes.
This is so well thought out and clear. What a minefield! Thank you and God bless.
While I am a Catholic and believe that Catholicism is the fullness of Faith, I would encourage Anglicans to stay and fight. If the heretics are allowed to win, the salvation of others and of future generations are in peril. However, if one becomes convinced that the fullness of the Faith lies elsewheree, you should follow your conscience.
Why would you tell Anglicans to stay in a false church & fight .The Holy Catholic Apostolic Church is the True Church
I live in the USofA and, as a Brit, joined the Episcopal Church and stayed for years and years.
Finally when I had had enough, I explored the Roman Catholic Church.
On April 8th at the Easter Vigil, I will be received in Full Communion into the Roman Catholic Church❣️❣️❣️
Hallelujah 🙏
Welcome home. I do hope you have found a good, traditional Catholic service and community.
God bless!
glorious
There are many good people who are Roman Catholics, but the heirarchy of that church is utterly corrupt, and it is not a Christian church. Maybe you need to read the Holy Bible-it takes about a year and the King James version is the most accurate translation, I think. I sense you Re someone who wants to "fit in" to a group, and Catholicism can give the impression of being a good community, and the repitious prayer to Mary, the Rosary, is calming to some people. But they removed the 2nd commandment from their church and they have an horrific record of paedophilia and the murder or selling of the children of unwed mothers. Their present pope, francis, has openly blasphemed against God and against my Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, on many occasions. It is my honest opinion that the Roman Catholic religion is a false, deceptive and utterly corrupt religion. I say this not out of any hate, but out of Christian love for you and concern for your welfare. I was born into a Roman Catholic family, neighbourhood, churxh, school etc and I have known dome very good people who wete Roman Cathilic, but I left the Roman Catholic church at the age of 14. I hope you make the right choice, for God's sake. He loves you, you are His precious child, and He does not want you to be lost. GOD BLESS YOU, IN JESUS' NAME I PRAY, AMEN.
@@lauraswann5543 You need to tell all this to my Graduate Theology professors I guess....1) If the only church you go to has no sinners, it isn't Christian, its fake 2) The ORIGINAL hierarchy had a guy named Judas--who betrayed Jesus to death, and Peter, the first Pope, who denied Him. 3) Read Romans 2, you are throwing many stones...be careful you dont' get what you dole out
Thank you brother for your words of wisdom, love and encouragement. May God our Heavenly Father richly bless you as well.
A lifelong Anglican, we left The Episcopal Church in 2014, tired of the sex and gender wars. We tried the ACNA for a bit, but, upon the advice of a friend we attended an Orthodox Divine Liturgy. We went through Great Lent and Pascha, and have never looked back. In 2019 we were Chrismated (in our late 50s). My only regret is not doing this decades earlier.
Going through that right now.
I tried it but it was so ethnically tied in to a culture that wasn't mine that I never felt welcome or at home.
@@samanthathompson9812
If you are in America, go to an Antiochian or on OCA parish. Even a ROCOR parish. They are mostly American converts and not as ethnic-centered.
@@redstickrant Not in America, but thanks for letting me know.
I never wanted to leave the Episcopal church, but then the radical changes. Now the COE itself! Since I'm currently living in East Europe, I'm looking at the Orthodox Church. Sad times. May God save us all.
Yes as a converted Catholic, I pray for C of E
God bless you. I have been struggling for months and you have helped me to pause and truly consider where I am being led. Again, God bless you.
I moved from CoE to Pentecostal (Assemblies of God). I don't regret it. I was "low church" CoE so the transition wasn't too difficult. I miss a bit of the liturgical nature of the CoE but overall, I am very happy where I am now. The renewed emphasis on the Holy Spirit has opened my spiritual journey to a new dimension.
Greetings from Ireland 🇮🇪. Happy Saint Patrick's day. Thanks for covering this. Much of what you say applies to the Church of ireland situation. The Church of ireland hasn't gone astray to the extent as C of E but it's not far behind.
The Enoch Burke betrayal tells the whole of Ireland what the Church Of Ireland has become.
Ireland was once Orthodox-as was St Patrick. Come on home.
@@frankherbert6476 you need to read some history books buddy...
@@Jrayhood I did read the history of the church in the British Isles, and he is right. They were Orthodox before Augustine came. The Orthodox decided that since Rome had the numbers and the resources they would step aside.
@@Jrayhood I watched a cartoon youtube that explained everything!
I’m thinking of going over to the Eastern Orthodox Church. Here in Britain there’s seemingly more continuity with the historical Church of England and British Christianity generally in Orthodoxy than in the CofE. British saints are venerated for example, there seems to be an effort to engage with the ancient rites and traditions that are distinctive to Britain, and of course there’s absolutely zero political or popular influence. It seems there’s so much more spiritual and liturgical fullness and richness in Orthodoxy and a genuine sense of love for tradition and scripture. I’m a relatively new convert from atheism and I really wanted to be a part of the cultural and historical heritage of my national church. But scripture and tradition and orthodoxy don’t appear to be very important to contemporary Anglicanism anymore. It’s very sad really.
constaninople? russian? genuine orthodox? old calendarists? moscow patriarchate?
@@Jrayhood Western Rite? Celtic Saints? Pre-schism Christianity in the British Isles? Orthodox churches that aren't linked to Constantinople and Moscow? Capitals? E.V. Smith is not remotely wrong in their comment. What a way to respond to a new convert.
@@effem892 it is not wrong to point out the problems they are getting into .
@@JrayhoodThe russian orthodox church does not run other orthodox churches. It's not like in catholicism where a pope is the leader. Greeks, romanians and not only, don't obey in any shape or form Moscow orthodox church. It's not by accident woke culture and homosexuality have a really hard time infiltrating orthodoxy. So happens to about family values. The vibe remembers the times of Jesus and you don't see the opulence of Vatican or other catholic cathedrals but modesty. No child abuses as well. Worth trying. And the best part... the orthodox Easter ! The Holy Light in Jerusalem on Resurrection, only in orthodoxy.
Lots of wisdom here, much appreciated. Particularly appreciate your respect of other denominations with whom you differ on style and theology. Those of us who are faithfully trying to follow Christ need to stand closer together and learn from each other.
Thank you Brett, I have already ex- communicated myself and feel that the only way to defend Christianity is to join Rome, with all her faults a worldwide movement to restore and revive the message of Jesus Christ.
c'mon on down! as we say in the States...but as people have pointed out, you even have to be careful here now....JPII is gone
Or as we say in U.K., no pope here!! 🇬🇧
@@geordiewishart1683 maybe because you destroyed all the monasteries and killed the Faithful Catholics...but my ancestors escaped here to the US and we know your story...
There is a lot of faithful catholics still living in the UK, I'm one of them
@@callumstevenson8083 keep strong!
I'd add to the list of options the Evangelical Connexion of the Free Church of England, which is a small group of churches who are very faithful to the Word. They are firmly Reformed and uphold the Westminster Confession of Faith, so a good option for those who subscribe to the doctrines of grace.
We have left the ECFCofE. Their stated position is though they are still on paper Episcopal, they have developed a Congregational feel and the leadership is no longer Episcopate based. Suffice it to say their attitude and correspondence with us on leaving drove us further away.
The Free Church of England has had its problems, including High Church tendencies - witness FATHER Calvin Robinson becoming a deacon and being in charge of a congregation! The Evangelical Connexion of the Free Church of England was formed to re-assert a more Biblical and Evangelical emphasis; and it is possible that something of an anti-episcopal attitude may have developed - but one of the principles of even the Free Church of England is that Bishops are not of the essence (“esse”), but only of the good essence (“bene esse”) of the Church - a position taken by not a few Anglican divines over the centuries. I am not a member of either FCE or ECFCE; but I am currently studying ECFCE and studying the 1988 edition of the FCE/ECFCE prayer Book. There is the problem that the few churches of both FCE and ECFCE are scattered, concentrated in the north and south of England but absent elsewhere.
@alex Christ Church Leigh-on-Sea voted to leave the ECFCE in May 2021, although they had fellowship with them until recently. I do not know of any other EC churches in the South. Calvin's defending the biblical faith in the Oxford Union debate is worth viewing. FC of E is a member of GAFCON, which is meeting soon. I do not know if FC of E will be represented there.
@@elizabethpotter4938 Calvin as an individual is admirable, and his performances are praiseworthy; but, what is happening in an “evangelical” grouping that can have a “father” as a minister? And has GAFCON begun to drift towards High Church tendencies?
@alex Guess we will have to just watch this space. After rejection by C of E, Calvin needed a home, as we all know. I find myself having to overlook the Father business (I am a former RC), as I do for others too. Content and witness matter and room to grow to become like me 😉.
As a roman catholic saddened by our own events. I say stay your course contend the faith.
We are His Kings and Priests, us together we are The Overcomers.
United we travel under His one Holy Name to gather up others because our journey is the same
Be beacons of truth to light the way
along the narrow road to heaven where Jesus promises lay
We will stumble and we will fall but we will lift and raise each other through the greatest love of all.
The at our journeys end met by the promise of ALL time and be blessed to spend eternity in the arms of the Divine.
God bless you all. 🙏
Oh gracious me, this is very sad to hear. The great tribulation is upon us already!!
Im an English woman and Ive lived in a Bhuddist country for the past 20 yrs and as a Christian I am welcomed, loved and given peaceful space at my local temple. I can honestly say they have helped make me a better Christian than I ever was before and the consciousness of Christ comes easily. Sending out love to you all. You are in my prayers.
I was brought up Roman Catholic, but have always had questions about certain aspects and innovations of doctrine and the legalism in RC approach. When I discovered Eastern Orthodoxy, the ethos was so different. The absolute assurance of the theology which had been worked out and established in the early centuries from the Apostles is unchanged and unchanging, which is such a reassurance.
When you mention that going to other groups may require someone to change their own theology, that brings up the question... do you want a theology that 'suits you', or do you seek truth? Forming your theology to suit you is self-centric, and surely the approach should be to be Christ-centric and Church-centric.
I can really understand your advice to find a splinter group of Anglicanism that suits the individual, or a Baptist of Pentecostal parish where someone can feel comfortable. But, I was really surprised with your comment at 6:00 where you suggest that someone's doctrine and theology are "for the most part, secondary things". Although I vehemently disagree with you on that, you are absolutely right when you followed on by saying "Being loyal to Jesus is meant to be costly - to be difficult and involve sacrifice to walk the narrow path". That is true for all of us, not just those of us who maybe unhappy where they are.
Doctrine and theology of Eastern Orthodoxy is not 'pick and mix' according to what you may prefer, but is a wholehearted embrace of what has been handed down from Christ's early Church. This is what may be very difficult for some, but very reassuring for others. It maybe worth people investigating what Orthodoxy really is, rather than what has been reinvented by individuals and become a new orthodoxy over recent centuries in all it's fragmentations.
During the period when the Anglican Church took on women priests, many Anglicans went to RC Church and also very many to Eastern Orthodoxy. The Orthodox Church's approach is to accept people on the Church's terms. It is a 'Spiritual Hospital' for the care of souls and help on their path towards salvation. As long as people approach with humility, then all the 'strangeness' becomes unimportant, and the difficulties of what is likely to be a new theology become easy with the grace of God.
Maybe it's because people have wanted to do things their own way and rely on their own ideas of theology and worship that there are so many fractures and small groups in Protestantism and the Anglican Church. Listening to you explain the possible options of where people could go is saddening, and it emphasises that fragmentation. I was so fortunate to have been guided to the Orthodox Church, which has many of it's own faults, as Christ's Church on earth is populated by sinners. People my have problems with ethnicity of many Orthodox Churches in the UK, with Greek, Russian, Romanian, Antiochian and other ethnic churches that form the whole. I belong to a wonderful thriving rural Greek Orthodox parish in Shropshire, which has Greeks, Cypriots, Romanians, Ethiopians, Ukrainians, but is primarily English converts - and the Liturgy is in English, with some Greek added now and then.
There's lots of incense (We read in Revelations that there's likely to be a lot of incense in Heaven!).
Of course, Eastern Orthodox form of worship is radically different from any Western Christian worship, as it comes from a basis of Jewish worship which was developed as Christian Liturgy formed. As an Englishman, it felt very new and exotic at first, but full of Scripture and teaching throughout.
The fasting routines done by the Church as a whole is a wonderful spiritual discipline, and the understanding of Scripture which was worked out through the rich Tradition of writings by the early Fathers and Saints of the Church means there's no splintering into different factions of belief. It's the understanding of the Scripture that the Orthodox Church formulated as it compiled the Bible which we all now use.
For people looking to explore the potential in Eastern Orthodoxy for themselves, look up Orthodox sites for information, as that is where you'll learn what Orthodoxy really is and believes, rather than reading what non-Orthodox say about it, which is often a total misunderstanding of Orthodoxy.
If you think Eastern Orthodoxy is too far away from where you are... my small parish received over 20 new members last year who were primarily Free Evangelicals who'd been searching the True Church, and some others who weren't previously Christian but had been searching. They'd all simply come along to find out about it after reading up on it. It hasn't been an easy journey for them, but now they are all very active and keen members in the community.
If anyone is curious, then my advice would simply be to check out where your local Orthodox church is and just turn up for a Liturgy. Nobody will pressure you or try to convert you. That's not the Orthodox way.
Even if it's just to experience an Orthodox Liturgy, it may help, even if you never return again. But it might help in your journey.
My heart goes out to you, as I understand the very real difficulties you all have. Praying for you.
you should seriously consider joining the eastern catholic church just like many EO monks and priests do recently . contraception nd divorce are apostolic teaching? who is right about authority ? moscow ? constantinople? which is the right side of schism within EO? how about the very poor sacramental theology?
@@Jrayhood You are jesting, I assume.
It's the sacramental theology of the Roman Church that has moved away from Orthodox theology. Orthodox theology hasn't wavered or changed since the Great Schism between east and west.
The questions of patriarchal authority between Orthodox jurisdictions has been going on for centuries, and always get resolved eventually. BUT, they are united about faith and doctrine.
If people change their faith from the faith of the early Orthodox Catholic faith to what has became a heterodox and in some ways a heretical Church in Rome, then that's up to them and you. But to make internal politics more important than the Faith of the Church is foolish.
So, no. Of course I wouldn't consider going back.
Very accurate and honest description.
God Bless youRev Brett🙏
I pray for miraculous provision for ministers and congregates who are at these cross roads. Seek first the Kingdom of God and ALL these things shall be added to you.
I pray for financial support, emotional support as well as physical as you need it.
May God's peace guide you. "Be still and know that I am God". Who is God? He is our provider, our healer, our shelter, our banner of Hope, our peace, our protector our guide,, our Savior, our Father, our Brother that gave His life for us.
My prayers are with you all ❤
I’ve just been welcomed into the Catholic Church. ❤
Welcome home.
The church of Rome is far removed from the church that was in Rome.
Catholicism is Christian in name only,
Welcome home!
@@geordiewishart1683:
How.
You should explain, otherwise this is just a mindless complaint from someone who, obviously, doesn't like the Catholic Church.
@@geordiewishart1683completely empty words, the Catholic Church is the fullness of the truth.
After over half a century in the Episcopal Church (USA) I am now Missouri Synod Lutheran. Not sure if there are any of those in the UK
The Evangelical Lutheran Church of England is a partner church of the LCMS in England.
@@richardbaranzini8805 Thanks good to know this. Many blessings 🙏
I did not wish to leave the Church. but it seems to have left me.
I was born into an Anglican family in Australia and served as a lay minister in the Anglican Church but i left the church over 30 years ago as even in the 1990's with an influx of female clergy I could see the woke writing on the wall. I was very warmly embraced by the Russian Orthodox Church outside Russia and have spent the last 30 years within the embrace of this Church. Thanks be to God.
As advised in this telecast, please pray before leaving your church because it might take many decades before you find another. I was brought up Methodist and was affiliated with its beavers, cubs and scouts. In church, the sermons were about social justice and the latest third world crisis (Mrs Jellyby?) In the interim, I went to the neighbourhood's Independent Methodist Church and I was struck by the Bible stories, which I loved. In my teens I attended an Elim Pentecostal church and I saw the Book of Acts in action and my childhood asthma was healed through Bible Study. Alas I wasn't part of the praise band so I drifted. This was 30 years ago and I haven't attended at church since although I regret it every day.
SJW and Mrs. Jellyby focus hits the nail on the head. I've been mining youtube videos of a small Lutheran Missouri Synod church in Delaware: the older ministers are still knowledgeable about the Old Testament and its significance, true nature of man, historical and biblical importance of scripture and are able to stay traditional (some might call conservative) but not fundamentalist.
Thanks for the good advice Rev.
Catholic theologian here. Whilst I recommend Catholicism, some form of Eastern Orthodoxy has a very great deal to recommend it. If you can get to London, talk to Fr. Shnork Bagadassarian at the Armenian Orthodox church in Kensington Square, and tell him I sent you. He is an extremely well qualified theologian, as well as being a naturally kind and patient man.Remember too that the Eastern Orthodox allow local priests to be married.
Although claiming to be a Catholic theologian, you appear to be endorsing the schismatic Orthodox religious group that broke away from the Catholic Church in the eleventh century.
Why?
I left the C/E some years ago, and I'm so pleased I did.
Best thing I have ever done!.
I would like to submit Confessional Lutheranism for consideration as a viable option that is true to God's Word and is not too terribly different theologically from the CofE (though, yes, there are differences).
A very godly friend of mine left an Aussie Anglican diocese that lost its way and became a Lutheran pastor. Thanks for the contribution to the discussion brother
The short point is to ask Jesus, "Where do you want me?"
"God DOES speak to man" (Job 33:14).
I counted 16 sign posts before I moved church.
Let's not forget 'House Church' as a way of worshipping together - it comes from a sound tradition!
True but the risks of heresy and a 'clique' forming are dangerous. A house church is great option under the authority of a GAFCON Bishop, the Free Church of England is open to this as often house churches in other parts of the world have grown to full worshipping communities!
@@RevBrettMurphy ...risk of heresy you say and yet the 'church' is eating itself up as an institution and heresy abounds! The house church is a great solution but what they forget is that the original house church was Jewish and they also still attended Synagogue at that time. The Jewish origins of the faith are often overlooked and misunderstood.
May the Lord bless you and may you find your way.
I pray for Anglicans. My late father, grandfather and great grandfather were a respected Rectors and Vicars. In the 1960s my dad produced and printed the first publicity leaflets for the SPUC. I left the C of E for lots of reasons but love my brothers and sisters in the Anglican Communion. Our ancestry goes back to Cotton and Increase Mather who took congregationalism to the USA so I come from pretty "ecclesiastical stock. Another ancestor, E.J. Mather founded the Royal National Mission to Deep Sea Fishermen in Queen Victoria's time. Pentecostal churches are riddled with heresy too, especially those embracing the NAR and the prosperity "gospel" - The true body of Christ is described in that old hymn, "The Church's One Foundation!" I am forever grateful to my parents for my Christian upbringing and I grieve for the Anglican churches. In my 20s, I embraced the promotion of female pastoral oversight for want of a better word. Being female and "Hot for God" in my early 20s, I really thought I was God's woman of power for the hour! I was accepted to train at the same Anglican Theological College in Bristol that my father and uncle had trained at, but I couldn't take up my place because of lack of funds and I couldn't see myself as either a parish worker or a deaconess as this was well before the introduction of female vicars etc. I am so glad though, because I now believe that males and females have equal but differeing roles. Equal in the sight of God but differing in identity. After, marriage, parenthood, grandparenthood and over 40 years later, I have learned a great deal. I have come across too many overly strong women doing so much damage to God's plan for the uniqueness of male and female and that they complement one another. Times ahead will be difficult but be of good cheer, in Him we have the victory! Biblical tenets are there for a reason. I weep for the state of the Body of Christ in the western world. Every denomination is beset with trials. However, the Refiner's Fire will do its job; We have seen the wheat and tares grow up together and it is now the painful time when the harvest is coming in and not one of us wants to be a tare!
So true
Well said, sister.
Thank you dear brother in Christ. Gd bless you, too!
Thank you, Fr. Brett, for clarifying the confusion with which I have struggled for the last 3 years. Full communion was denied, and masking required during the Covid thing. I felt that Caesar had crossed the line and stopped attending. When communion was resumed, our deacon openly declared himself to be a Marxist, and that was the last straw for me. I did not return but continued to "home church", and I fully understand what you mean by stressing community. Your talk has given me something to think about, and I am glad to know about the other options.
Praying for wisdom and discernment for you brother. I agree about bowing to Ceasar during the pandemic. It was rough in the UK but I was still thankful to be here, in my homeland in Aus churches literally banned people who were "unmedicated"...Christ have mercy!
@@RevBrettMurphy Thank you for your reply. I do find it comforting to know that I was not alone.
When did VICARS become Priests by name.??
@@claireowens2250 Sorry, Claire, I don't follow you. It has been my understanding that a vicar is any ordained clergyman who substitutes for the bishop. It has been the custom in our parish since I have attended there to address the minister as Fr. Firstname or Fr. Lastname or just Firstname, as the minister wishes. Our current deacon, due to his devout Marxism, would perhaps best be addressed as Comrade Lastname. If I am incorrect, please ask Fr. Brett.
@@claireowens2250 Vicar is the job description (a cleric who runs a parish church) Priest is the vocation. All vicars are priests, not all priests are vicars.
Most of my Christian experience has been in a Baptist church
Due to house moves I had a period attending a Charismatic Anglican Church and following a further move am now in an independent Charismatic church
Although I had many good years in the Baptist church can I recommend that anyone who is considering joining one to carefully check with the leadership their theology on this matter
Each Baptist church is autonomous and there is a movement operating within some Baptist churches to move them on a congregation by congregation basis in the same direction as the CofE now finds itself
So by all means consider this option but do the due diligence before you commit!
In Elijah's day there were 7000 people in israel who did not bow the knee to Baal. Take heart, there are a lot more today who will not bow the knee. Pray the Lord will lead such, however scattered, into fellowship one with another. The KJBible is the final authority in all matters of faith and doctrine. Jesus said, " keep my words and keep my commandments" There is only one Lord, one faith, one baptism. May we never stray from his waist by heeding false doctrine,. May the Lord bless us and keep us close to himself.
Amen!
@howardlong6735. Amen, Howard. Agree with you on all points.
I'm an American Episcopalian and unhappy with my church but the closest ACNA parishes are low church with contemporary music and worship. There isn't a place for a high church conservative Anglican like myself. Perhaps Eastern Orthodox.
God bless Orthodox America, who leads the way in the Anglosphere.
We have traditional hymns at our REC.
Is there a Polish National Catholic Church near you? That might be an option.
Maybe contact the ACNA and find out if there are others in you area interested in starting a mission. You might be meeting in someone's living room at first, but a church has to start somewhere.
It might be worth it to look for a good Lutheran church near you. There is the Missouri Synod, Wisconsin Synod, the Evangelical Lutheran Synod, and the American Association of Lutheran Churches. (All are national Church bodies despite the names.)
I think, "Here I stand, I cannot do otherwise" will be the order of the day.
Come out of Her O my people spoke to me many years ago when the Word of God began to take root in my heart. and showed me the errors of the Roman Catholic Church. I was seeking the Lord because the beliefs of the Church began crashing down around me. I totally understand how so many will be feeling. Take heart Jesus said seek and you will find, knock and the door will be opened unto you. That's his promise, that's His word. Hallelujah He led me into a deep relationship with Him. My Children four of them are committed Christians and it was a joy to bring them up.
@pamelathomas4864. Amen!
Praying for all the Anglicans
American, and Southern Baptist simply learning about the decline of the C of E. Just subscribed to your channel. I see the MacArthur Commentaries!
I am a cradle and hope to be to the grave Anglican. I fell in Love with God and Jesus through the Anglican Family.
Join GAFCON, remove the satanic bishops or RUN! I wouldn’t let a religion of very creepy men to slowly get into your mind or the minds of your children and lead you straight to the depths of hell.
I want to find out what the impact of Ordaining Women Priests on Church attendance? Whatever is is it’s buried very deep which leaves me to conclude it’s Negative. If half a dozen Churches had one new member each, It would have been on the front page of the Guardian. Could someone enlighten me please?
Interestingly, during the modern period the garment off Christ becomes more torn, rather than mended into a single cloth.
A certain “bishop” mentioned in this video. I have prayed often for you & your family. God has your back, Rev. Best regards.
There’s still time for the bishops to withdraw their proposed prayers for same sex couples before the next General Synod in July at York.
Would be a massive u-turn as the bishops voted overwhelming for same sex blessings something like 38 for and 4 against.
I went from Anglican to baptist. It was a good step for me and my family.
I am very fundamental in my beliefs so some things took an adjustment
I now go to small evangelical church that believes in the 5 pillars of Christianity:
Sola Scriptura
Sola Fide
Sola Gratia
Solo Cristo
Soli Deo Gloria.
The Bible is the Final authority for truth and wisdom. Jesus is the Truth.
My God Bless you all and I will pray for you!
Thank you Fr for sharing this video.
A lot could be said on this subject . Thank You for sharing , i personaly don't belong to ANY kind of Religeous Denomination , but belong to " Christ " . Your points towards the end i see as being important . Great to see that You & Others are standing up to Biblical Truth . I see a lot of the current situation within Christian Denominations , as God shaking up the Church ( Body of people NOT denomination ) especially in the Western English Speaking World where we have had it relatively easy up till now . God Bless !
5:40 You give a list of options, but fail to include the Catholic Church (although the Ordinariate is Catholic) which is the church that Jesus started ..... just sayin'. There is also AMiE, the "Anglican Mission in England" which you went onto mention. May God bless you in your discernment
I was watching expecting for him to mention the Catholic Church... why didn't he mentioned the only one and true Church that should be seriously considered?
@Jorge A. Gomes because just as he knows that the C of E is preaching more and more heresy, he also knows that it broke from Peter "the rock" on whom Jesus founded the church to which we should take our disputes. The C of E was founded in adultery and divorce, and its apostasy is inevitable
England will became catholic... it was profetized by St Pio
Too all those considering leaving the CoE or other churches, I'd recommend looking first at local options that are the same as what you believe but separate, and second at other historical branches of Christianity: Roman Catholic, Protestant, & Orthodox. Some changes in theology or doctrine may ring true for you, I'd encourage you to listen, study, and pray. I'd start by seeking those that are faithful to our text as well as their history and their traditions.
There's a world of difference between Roman Catholic (I think you mean Latin Rite Catholic), Protestant and Orthodox.
The only traditional one is Catholic.
Protestant has been around for five hundred years,
Orthodox about a thousand years,
Catholic for two thousand years.
The Catholic Church is the only Church that Our Lord Jesus Himself left us.
He called it "My Church"!
Sometimes people need to make compromises on secondary issues to remain in genuine daily fellowship with Christians in a local church. I was brought up as a Presbyterian in N.Ireland but now have lived in Scotland for 20 years. There is no way I could remain in the Church of Scotland and so about 12 years ago when our doctrinally sound minister in the CofS retired we started looking around for a new spiritual home. We now worship in an independent evangelical church which is essentially baptist in doctrine. Not completely comfortable with that since I believe the children of believers are worthy of receiving the sign of the God's covenant in baptism but they do at least 'dedicate' children in which Christian parents are required to make promises to bring the child up in 'the nurture and admonition of the Lord and teach unto them the truths and duties of the Christian faith' or modern words to that effect. I joke with our Pastor that it is a pretty good baptism, pity about the missing water. Apart from that we are very happy and well supported as a family in our Church fellowship and I am allowed to lead a small bible study group despite not being baptised as they would see it. Make of that what you will. God Bless.