Life of a Game: Final Fantasy XIV
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You guys know the real warrior of light was Yoshi P all along.
Wish more companies had the balls to kill off and relaunch a game they knew just wasn't what it was meant to be.
its kind of needing to have the money too xD!
Looking at you Bandai with your New Gundam Breaker release.
Barnaby Swift square got the money to have the balls to relaunch a game. Plus it is japanese culture, if it is westerners they probably gave on the game already.
SE has fing up and coming back from it down to a science since the first FF.
I wish WoW was killed off already.
4 years later I think we know how the story went.
Best MMORPG out right now fo sho.
2 years later and it's still going strong!
But you gotta admit. When they closed 1.0 they gave it a badass farewell.
Not to mention they made the closure canon with a very awesome cinematic trailer, giving closure to the Calamity event in 1.0's final days
I wish I played 1.0 and was there to experience it. Even just watching from the outside is so fuckin epic. Even the idea of making the game's death a literal in-game event and Canon to the lore of the reboot is so amazing. I love final Fantasy
It's kind of fascinating watching this video just after Endwalker or 6.0 released. How things have changed.
"People dont hate people who fail. They hate people who fail and dont own up to it" That last part represents majority of the AAA gaming companies to date.
You also left out how they turned 1.0 shutting down into an epic as fuck storyline.
Goku Black no, he specifically mentioned they made a story around it...
Yeah, it's part of the reason why I love the Ascians so much. Probably the only group of villains I've enjoyed seeing on screen in years now as other villains to me nowadays just feel generic. I'm still sad that Endwalker is concluding the Ascian storyline
FFXIV player here. I'm not gonna correct you on a bunch of date and inaccurate points you made in the middle but FFXIV is an MMO that takes into account player dips and takes that information and actually uses it for budgeting. SO FFXIV is actually very healthy. They take into account that players will eventually leave but make sure that each expansion is compelling enough to bring them back. One of the few online games that I know of that doesn't demand 100% of your time.
"doesn't de and 100% of your time."
Now I'm intrigued. I nust want an enjoyable world with fun/challenging gameplay and an interesting story.
@@questioningespecialy9107 Very easy to pick up and play. There’s a lot of content now so it will probably take a awhile to get to the latest stuff but I think all of the content is worthwhile. The story is amazing and they fixed the slower parts. Once you catch up to the latest content you can either unsub until the next story update or if you want things to do explored the hundreds of hours of side content. They don’t try to guilt you to staying on.
@@AsherReigns Yeah i can only agree. After playing Ffxiv since mid heavensward i am currently taking a break till the new patch 5.5 without worrying that i have to catch up or miss out on anything important. Its good to have a place you dont have to be 100% of the time so you can take a break and dont get burned out. I am still subscribed cuz....housing....I will not lose my limsa house. Never.
Yoshi P has even said that he would have players leave and come back.
@@AsherReigns The most recent patch is great too. I love the new alliance raid (even got the new hairstyle)
"They might have a chance at recovering some of their player base"
The same metrics site says it's doubled it's active players now. It's refreshing to see a game do thing right and admit and fix mistakes or unpopular changes.
Even now I have to queue to get in 99.9% of the time.
@@mikoto7693 now? You have to wait an hour or more during prime time to even log in
@@Sovek86 we don't talk about the Endwalker queue. Chaos waited up to 2 hours on peak xD
But I found it so interesting that most people took it in stride and there was more light hearted complaining o.O
Life of a game instead of a death? I'm pumped!
I never played the original version of this game but the later re-launched version I did play for several years...and it was awesome.
Ketwolski ff14 is such a unique example of the death and life of an mmo, now its like 2nd best in the market
VonGrimm Music it's actually been almost 4 years
I've played the original and i even build a brand new pc for it ('cuz i am a sucker for graphic) and oh boy did my system shit its pants.
im 7 months late to the party but i was a daily player of 1.0 and while it was lackng in content it was a fun and absolutely beautiful game i wish i still had my screenshots
I tried the original but it barely played. Laggy, unstable, abysmal frame rate and I gave up after 2 hours. It was only last week I decided to try FF14 again after being reminded of my great time of the years in Vana'diel. I'm hooked, really enjoying it. And 99.9% chance of queueing to get in.
This really needs an update
"Laughs in Shadow Bringers"
@@Wargoat1332 is it bad?
architek nah, the game seems to be doing well.
especially when it's doing better year by year since
@@Parallaxdnb it has alot more people now then ever
"ARR and Heavensward's stories arent connected"
uhhhhhhh what
Yeah, this isn't FF11 (post-CoP, at least).
HW _is_ a sequel to ARR.
Overall, really good video. It's pretty clear that you haven't played XIV but there were only a few instances that had me scratching my head in confusion as to where you got some of this info. For the most part though you really did cover all your bases with your research and I'm actually really impressed. It's rare that we get this kind of in-depth content from someone outside of the XIV community, so thank you for taking care to get things right and representing the game, the community, and the dev team as well as you did.
Bit of a nitpick here, but Persona 4 is not Shin Megami Tensei 4. Persona started as a spinoff series from mainline SMT and is now different enough that it's pretty much it's own thing. Keita Amemiya has nothing to do with the Persona series(Soejima does nearly all of the original art for the Persona series), he's actually more of an anime guy who did some special guest demon designs for Shin Megami Tensei 4.
Glad someone else mentioned this. That part kinda bugged me. Doing all that research and then making a weird fumble like that? Strange.
Minor spelling mistake. I win.
I don't know where you're getting your data, but the "changes" in heavensward weren't changes so much as additions, and were for the most part positively received in my experience. The raiding community was destroyed by Alexander 3 Savage due to super tight mechanics, and this is where heavensward suffered. Also Yoshi-p has stated that he doesn't want the game to be an all day every day grind fest, and wants people to take breaks between content updates to play other games. So the 300k "active" playerbase at the end of heavensward was an expected number.
How is Heavensward and ARR story not related?
He didnt play the game that is why he said it.
They are. Some of his..... ideas were not really accurate in the middle.
@@1buszybudy13 he just made a mistake. doesnt have to mean that hes a tool.
@@1buszybudy13 don't take it THAT seriously LMAO. It's a game after all.
"Yoshi P wasn't a person experienced in a world of MMOs."
That statement is false, Yoshi P is a very avid MMO player. And thus he has a lot of experience in it. He even stated that when he first played FFXIV 1.0 he could see how horrible it was compared to other mmos especially with it's UI design. It's also why he was able to take charge and bring FFXIV back up it's feet, because he was a fellow MMO player that understood the needs and wants of players.
A more correct statement would be "Yoshi P wasn't a person experienced *leading* a world of MMOs."
Great semantics.
Alot of things are simply incorrect in this video.
Active players on that website are actually the players who are up to date to the story. So that excludes lower level players.
As well as the story of ARR not being connected to HW. What's up with that? Some bullshit happened in Uldah which made our character flee to Ishgard and that's where Heavensward essentially begins. Because our reputation got screwed back in Uldah, we had no choice but to continue our story in Ishgard.
Hadn’t he made a DQ MMO previously?
Dude, I just found your channel yesterday & I am absolutely loving your DOAG series! I'm glad to have found you. Thanks for the great video essays. You're doing a fantastic, & interesting job.
Maggiepiefy do you still play? I'm a new player barely a week in.
From the outside, this video may seem accurate. However, to someone whom has been subscribed for almost the entire length of 2.x-3.x, many of the arguments brought up in the middle part of the video do not hold up to scrutiny.
Thechuggaablade the stories are connected but 2.0-2.x content does feel dated
Watching this in 2020 and having a login queue to the game nearly a year after Shadowbringers launch 😭
Same. I'm a new player and I always queue to get in.
I really appreciate the sheer amount of effort you put into these. Bravo man
I can't believe how far this game has come. I started playing it last year and I love it. definitely wouldn't have kept going if I had played it how it launched lol
Are you ready for Endwalker?
@@seto108 of course!
you have to absolutely respect the way they did this. I know it makes me feel a lot safer buying a game made by them than one made by EA or Bethesda.
Halting sales due to server overload vs just making people deal with it is a huge thing
FYI naoki yoshida DID have experience making MMOs. He was on the dev team for DQX.
and it's Nah-oh-kee.
Not as a lead though. Saito developed that one. Naoki as far as I can understand was the equivalent of a project manager.
After Endwalker, I'm pretty sure all of can agree that this one was one of the best stories ever told in modern gaming.
Now just imagine if companies like EA and Bethesda(a.k.a. Bugfesta)would own up to their mistakes.
This is a fascinating time capsule especially for players like me who started in ShB. We have numbers that show some of the lowest subs were around the HW area but hearing it was largely Raiders who were unhappy with the product is interesting
This game kept a bind between me and my parents. We would play this every night we could. Day in, day out on the weekends. This game brings back so many memories.
why do you have to have big cutscenes like the 'death' of the sultana?
For anyone that's played up to something around lvl 30 or 40 would know who she was and understand what happened
Atleast put a spoilar alert
Ugh as a new new player I really don't want spoilers. I'm barely a week in an loving it.
and here we are on Shadowbringers and a still thriving community!
Yoshi P is the blessing we never knew we had until he singlehanded brought a game back from “the death of a game” to literally a powerhouse mmo to rival that of some of the titans like wow.
I will not say it’ll ever overcome wow but I know a lot of refugees that came over.
The one thing I saw in that 1.0 footage that I like better than now? Having Black Mage spells use traditional Final Fantasy spell names. "Firaga" just hits harder than "Fire III" to me, ya know?
I love these videos, keep up the great work dude
I watched this video when it launched. And as someone who met his gf in FF14, wich I am moving in with soon. And have been raiding and clearing content since SB launch, now raiding with my gf. I can confirm. The game is not perfect, but it has one of the best comunities and its growing so fast almost all servers have locked character creation and login ques around content patches. They even added two more servers to the EU side of things and still not a single server have had population decline only growth. That should say something.
The latest story patch almost made me cry for one of the "villians", and I still get goosebumps hearing the new music for every boss they release. And I scream in joy with my raid team every time we kill a new boss. I am about 2 years into FF14 atm and the game is keeping me around and I get giggly as a kid every single time new content comes out. Not all of the content is perfect, and the game faulters here and there. But they listen to their comunity and is not afraid of trying to change the game or take risks with new content.
FF14 is in my opinion the best classical tab target MMO on the market.(subjective opinion, and there are other MMO`s I would argue are better outside of the tab target cathegory). And as a hugely invested player I can only hope they keep it going. I cant freaking wait for the next raid tier to release, as much fun I am having clowning around gearing up my alternative jobs. Nothing beats progressing and killing a fresh raid tier with the love of my life and a gang of really nice and fun people!
May the light be with you! And your adventures be full of glamorous loots! /salute
iv been waiting for this havent even watched it and i already liked it dude every video you make is so immersive and perfect i love that i have played all the same games i wish mmorpgs could go back to them good old days
Lookin forward to watching this Nerd.
Edit: Loved the vid, very in-depth as always, I also noticed your editing has improved a little so thats good. Keep it up Nerd.
Anyone who says A Realm Reborn’s story doesn’t matter in Heavensward is not paying attention to either story. Especially later, because ARR really heavily plays into Shadowbringers, just has Heavensward was build up to Shadowbringers.
I was watching this without looking at the date. It seems like the future is looking pretty bright at this point.
Dude, this video is 4 years old and still is very relevant
Can sort of tell that he didh't really play XIV all that much and the editing in this video isn't that great.
This should definitely have a 5.X Shadowbringers update - Shadowbringers story has been of such high caliber, can be considered one of the best Final Fantasy stories produced.
But 2.X and 3.X is connected and with 4.X and especially 5.X, they do bring in characters, locations, lore from previous expansions.
In 3.X, they definitely lost players due to an overtuned raid scene, so a lot of players left but the game has evolved to a "Play, beat the content, unsub if you're bored, then come back in a couple of months" They fixed a lot of the way they approach Raid and Story and progression, while expansions are still locked behind Main Story Quest, they have streamlined the process in 5.3 to make the 2.X story quicker. They kinda bloated the original 2.X story since they werent 100% sure if they were going to succeed.
I was hoping you could continue this 'life of' series. There are quite a few games that have survived 10+ years like tf2, minecraft, wow etc. I know what you do is probably a lot of work so you don't need new requests or anything but I really enjoy your vids. This positive one was really nice. Whatever you do thanks for your content:)
Well thought out and Very enjoyable to watch/listen to. Keep it up man.
Do a video about FFXI. I imported it in 2002 and learned Japanese to play it, and it remains the highest point in my history of playing video games, but not for the reason you might think.
Every person claims that the community of their first MMO is unequivocally the greatest community in online games; but FFXI *actually is that game*. Japanese players are selfless to a level that American gamers cannot understand. I was helped for weeks on end by Japanese players, at no benefit to themselves, just so I could obtain a piece of my AF armor set. There were times where 17+ people would donate hour upon hour to help one of our linkshell mates kill a story HNM (think like a boss), to obtain something useful to them, or even just advance the story.
I still, regularly, get facebook messages from linkshell mates I haven't played with in 5+ years. The bonds of FFXI's community just run that deep.
Soniti1324 you'll find the same in the American servers actually
As far as I know, FFXI is still alive to this day, is it not?
Maaaaaaaaaan... FFXI... I miss that game.
You're right... it actually is that game.
That said, it did have its flaws. And they did have a hand to play in its eventual demise.
I experienced the same thing in FFXI but it was Americans
Soniti1324 that game was immersion defined. that doesn't exist in our games anymore.
Hmm...some of this info isn't correct especially when talking about the release of heavensward...
I'm returning to this game in about less than a month. Can't wait. This video makes me more hyped.
Very informative and entertaining video. Keep it up nerdSlayer! :)
Today in "Reviews that aged poorly, but for the better"
Uematsu's scores are the stuff of legend. Even when the work is attached to a disaster.
Wow what an amazing and thorough video.
love ur content man, keep it up!
I love your videos, please keep making them, you'll get the following you deserve after a while if you continue with this quality and at this pace.
I'm a bit of a UA-cam Game Review/Analysis/Theory/Discussion/Hardware nerd, I don't play games much or own any consoles just my PC Master Race status demands it but I love watching videos on them, there are over 50 that are good enough for me to sub to and you are seriously in the upper-echelons in terms of quality of content and production.
Thanks Paddy. I am hoping you will see consistent upgrades in production and quality as I continue to learn and work on my channel. And the content at a minimum I am attempting to one video a week.
Final Fantasy XIV is by far a game that deserves a lot of respect from Square Enix. They took responsibility and had the balls to say "We are rebooting. We are not changing names." That is a lot of balls to do that. As Final Fantasy XIV: Realm Reborn is a rather good game. The Graphics are wonderful and the Gameplay lives up to it.
Good stuff as always. Just to note, the flower pots put a lot of stress on the PC playing the game, not the servers.
Good catch.
I know this video is old but he Yoshida did have prior experience with MMOS. He played quite a few western MMO titles such as Ultima Online and I believe even World of Warcraft.
Super well made, in depth video.
Ayyyyy! Didn't know this would be uploaded so quickly! Came out great~
Thanks for the footage! I felt it really helped people understand the difference in both games.
If you ever decide to go into FFXI in more detail, hit me up. I imported back in 2002 and still play.
In 1.0 they were apologizing for its failure. In 6.0, they were apologizing for its success.
i love these videogame and business analysis ... good job Nerdslayer, my sub is not wasted
"Your sub is not wasted" lol
I saw the original gameplay not too long ago and suffice to say, it looks so bad compared to the hotbar system we have now. Mind you I came in at 5.2 (or was it 5.25?) and I haven't stopped playing ever since. Final Fantasy XIV reignited a burning love for MMORPGs within me again, something that I had lost after playing Tera and DCUO
Still seems to be alive in 2020 from what I can tell. I don't play MMOs anymore but this is one of the few that's still going.
Great video as usual!
As a FFXIV player, great video! Your voice is clear and fluid, your explanations easy to understand, and the video well structured. :)
Here, have my like and my subscription ;)
been over five years and this is still the only video in this series lmao
Been over 5 years and this video is doing worse than the majority of my videos
@@nerdSlayerstudioss I didn't mean it as a negative thing about your videos, more as a comment on the games. And yeah if it bleeds it reads people wanna hear more about stuff failing.
Good point, a sad reality this video sort of taught me. Jury isn't out, and I think it could work fyi.
this was a really good video!! i was thinking about getting a subscription, i feel like im getting in at exactly the right time. there was just that event in Vegas and earlier at TGS this year they got that nice update alongside the FFXV. Im looking for such a specific experience, fun to play good crafting. I feel like everything is taking itself too seriously either going in the generalized route and not really nailing anything. or going overly specific but not being able to nail down base mechanics. I just want good player housing lol i think a blend of FFXV and ESO will have to do, at least they have budgets and properties with lore im actually interested in vs all these other rehashed fantasy creatures
Fantastic video!!!
i started like 2 and a half weeks ago, i just got to lvl 60, on 3 jobs, im here crying about event only cosmetics but is still a very addicting game. Just began doing gathering/crafting jobs, since im stuck on second to last step for my lvl 50 zeta wep.
I think the fact that they actually pulled off this remake and the overall quality of the game now is one of the greatest behind the scenes stories in gaming.
I finally got around to watching this video. It's about 9 days until the launch of Stormblood, and when I think about all the times I've had with this game, I am without regret. FF14 might stumble here and there, but its hits outweigh its misses by far, and the dedication of Yoshi-p and his team is truly legendary.
When Nerdslayer comes around to making Death of FF14, I hope that it shall be years from now and that it will be more of a fond farewell rather a postmortem of a disaster.
I will never understand why developers can't just admit their mistakes. You will 100% not be able to hide your failing business from your customers. Lying and hiding things won't save your game when you fuck up, but having the good will of your player base just might.
Holy crap you actually did it! Thanks a bunch man!
7 years later its still going strong
Great channel!
I really like your style. Your videos are interesting without trying to be a memey/cringe comedian. This was dope!
I appreciate that!
The "soft cap" on the EXP gain is to combat the video game addiction - or at least so they could say they are trying to combat it - which is a big problem in Japan, China and Korea. It makes people play more often but for shorter periods.
The rebirth of FFXIV will be use as case study for many years to come.
One of the best mmo i have played. WoW was a great back then and still great today. But if you want more "fresh" mmo, ffxiv is no doubt the best mmo right now
Subjective still bro.
It's the best I've played and I've played a few. STO, ESO, FF76, FF11, and the multiplayer of ME3.
Small correction at 6:12: Character models for FFXIV don't have 1K~ polygons. That would be closer to what something like Quake 3 would give for a character. Somewhere in the ballpark of 10k-15k would be more likely, though I've not looked into FFXIV's development so I can't say anything specific.
i like your videos, you sure do your homework researching about the games, keep up the good work.
here is a crazy idea, would you try and imagine what would be future of mmorpgs? like what would be the next step in technology or gameplay...
just an idea.
a good and important video for gaming history.
What the fuck are the dislikes??? This was well done, and I can't see any reasons to dislike it.
Maybe its because it sounds like he didn't even play the game with some of the stuff he said.
The most blatant thing he mentioned was that raiders didn't like how easy content was in 3.0. It in fact was the opposite. Raiders did not like how DIFFICULT raiding became due to heavily unforgiving mechanics and dps checks. Many raid groups disbanded and unsubbed due to these problems.
I wondered about this too. I never heard someone so critical of Heavensward.
Hi There maybe I misunderstood but I thought he was saying that there was no middle ground between normals (being extremely easy, which they are) and Savage which is still pretty damn tough for the majority of the playerv base.
Trey Capps That was one thing he said, but he's misinformed of why raiders didn't like raiding in 3.0. He said that they didn't like the slow progression and dullness of the content when in fact, the "savage mode" raids in 3.0 and 3.2 were the hardest ever released. The easy accessibility of the "normal mode" raids caused an influx of casual and "midcore" players to attempt the hardcore "savage modes" of the raids. The slow realization of completely being unable to meet the requirements for DPS checks and mechanics proved too much for those players, causing their groups to disband and ultimately unsubscribe.
Also, while there is that disparity of casual and hardcore raiding, there is also plenty of "midcore" content in the form of Extreme
Trials.
That is what I am saying. There is no "middle raiding". It's either easy, or super hard.
This is a Splendid Video.
SQEnix's transparency and frequent communication and willingness to admit mistakes publicly is why I have so much respect for them. I wish Blizz could pull the stick out of their ass and admit when they fuck up. Because they fuck up a lot.
Great video!
As a player of Final Fantasy 14 I am very happy to see this video. I have played since the launch of ARR, but I was brought into the game by original(legacy) players. To address some of the problems of the game, I will say that some of the greatest problems is balancing ever expanding end game while making progress for new players in a story driven title possible. We saw the same growing in WoW, and it eventually is what led to cataclysm and their current model. As a player who reads Yoshida's live letters I know that one of the goals he's had for end game content is to try to make it challenging from a mechanical stand point and not a gear wall stand point. Efforts have been made to allow for multiple ways of upgrading gear to catch up with savage content, which is the hardest content meant for expert players, because early in Heavensward a more solid gear wall was implemented that prohibited raiding parties from progressing without dependency on random drops. As well, the effort has been to make the content for gearing up accessible to players so they are not locked behind gear walls either. The issue comes that trying to make the end game inclusive to more casual players while giving the challenge to hardcore players making constant three month updates means you may have to sacrifice the intermediate skill level. I love the current endgame, and am trying to build up skill and gear to tackle the more demanding raids such as the savage content. I love that I don't have to follow the old WoW flow chart to get the right pieces to do challenging raids. Would I like to see an intermediate stepping stone? Yes, but as peoples skill improve than the intermediate stepping stone will likely be considered just more casual by end game raiders.
Can confirm stormblood is fun and worth the hype
Its good but my only gripe is that they pretty much killed pvp for me(its playable but you cant do any fun stuff anymore due ability prune)but then again a lot of people like now model so i guess it was worth it from SE pov plus i still got other things to do in-game so it was just one part of game that got slightly less fun for me.
and this raid tier is actually fun and interesting unlike the robots from alexander :P
I'm impressed this video aged well
i love the explanation of how to say Heavensward
I was there for the launch of 1.0... and it was bad, but I stuck with it as long as I could until the system overhead was just too much for my meager computer to run it... I came back for 2.0 though and don't regret it.
as always a quality production sir
The worst part about this video is that NoClip exists... Phenomenal job
If you ever want to do another one of those I suggest to take a look at Titan Quest, which since its supposed death with the original THQ, got two smaller expansions (second one just released) and quite a few updates from THQ Nordic (one free big one when they got the rights for it back), which should probably also be a part of the video if you are going to make it. It's certainly one of the most unusual and best comebacks of an old video game I've seen but I feel not enough people actually talk about it.
Watching this much later, where FFXIV just had a very successful 4th expansion, Endwalker
a lot of 1.o had issues. the mainly focused on leaves instead of questing to level you up and there was no end game and that's why they limited leveling.
Can you do more of this series? I think ESO is a good candidate. And you can also look at games that have insane longevity, like WoW, Lineage, Runescape, EVE, etc etc, and explore why they are successful.
Anyways, love your work! Keep it up.
After Stormblood, FFXIV is now bigger than ever. People who say there's nothing to do beyond lvl 70 are not taking the time to explore the contents. Literally every contents in this game are their own games. Be crafting and gathering or Palace of the Dead, or treasure hunting or even simple side quests, once you step in there is no end. Yeah, progression is rather slow. For good or bad, this game implemented old MMORPG elements in modern form. It's a breath of fresh air in this day and age when paying for artificial progression is a form of gameplay.
Please do Death of a Game: Vanguard Saga of Heroes
I couldn't get into this MMO myself, but to my girlfriend it's the best thing ever.
Favorite MMO ever. Have it on PC and PS4. Will not stop playing till the game shuts down.
Lol how things changed with Shadowbringers almost rivaling Wow and staying very healthy.
I know I joined just under a week ago and I always have to queue to get in.
"almost"? Huh...? Shadowbringers SURPASSED WoW by a long mile dude, wtf you talking about? Why do you think WoW made shadow lands or whatever that trash is called lol.
@@infinitexp420 I understand I love FFXIV and also think shadowlands was a weak, I was just talking about player population, we're ever growing but WoW still has more players currently but if Endwalker is another masterpiece maybe we'll get there
@@Kitamurasama Okay I see what you're saying, and to be honest I do think Endwalkers will be another hit just like Shadowbringers, it only makes sense.