Can I use a boat shuttle with my rigid heddle loom?
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Thank you for this video, I have wondered about using a shuttle on my Ashford ridged heddle loom and you have provided much information. I always appreciate your videos. 👍🏻👍🏻
Wow! As a newer rigid heddle weaver (Schacht Flip loom 25”) who bought a boat shuttle (also Schacht and very well weighted and balanced) I was frustrated with how some cotton tea towels turned out (8/2 cotton). I had quite a few floats on the back side when I unwound my finished fabric. 🥺 I think I now know why! The inflexibility of the plant based fibers, and not paying strong attention in the up shed to ensure I was not bouncing on the warp a bit and catching threads wrong. As well as over-winding my bobbins to try to maximize my bobbin. AND, it was before I realized the importance of advancing my warp much more frequently. So. Many. Lessons. Learned. We love those darned flawed tea towels,and they are reminders to me to advance more frequently and check my sheds as well. And NOW I know to NOT overload my bobbins and be more careful throwing my boat shuttle in that up shed. THANK YOU! I will now warp again for tea towels and try again! You are a truly gifted and amazing teacher!❤
Thank you, I hope your next batch turn out beautifully 😊
I use a plastic chop stick with my drill for winding bobbins. I've noticed a difference in inner diameter between Schacht and Ashford. The chopstick is tapered and works well for all.
Awesome! 😊
I very much appreciate this video since it's a question I've thought about since I first became interested in weaving 2 or 3 years ago. You're always my go to resource for weaving!
Thank you!
Fantastic ♥️ as a new loom owner great information before I buy shuttles
I have a 16" Kromski loom and have experienced the issues surrounding a narrow shed. Since I have never liked using stick shuttles, I looked around and discovered a good solution called a 12" Super Thin Rigid Heddle Boat Shuttle on Etsy. It's in the Handywoman shop for $34 USD and can be found for even less money on the Handywoman website. It comes with a plastic bobbin or you can buy quills to fit in her shop. I also found a manual bobbin winder by Fibre Arts Supply which fits this narrow bobbin. However, my favorite tool for weaving is actually a wooden weaving needle---a huge wooden "needle" with an eye for tying on your yarn. Fits like a dream through the shed, moves fast, and requires refilling with yarn less frequently. It's all I use now. Mine is 14" long and came from an Etsy shop in Ukraine. It took 2 weeks to arrive, but that may have changed now. Hope this info helps someone!
Thanks for sharing your experiences Louisa!
The giant weaving needle sounds intriguing. I’m getting the impression that you aren’t using it for tapestry but for basic weaving on your rigid heddle? :) Can you ‘Splain? lol
Slim Glimakra open bottom is my go to boat shuttle for my rigid heddle weaving
This is so woo woo, as I was talking to my Spinners & Weavers group on Tues about this same subject.
I’ve been thinking about getting one so thank you Kelly! Great timing!
Great!
Very helpful video, I had so many questions regarding boat shuttle and you answered them all:) Thank you from Canada 🧶
Glad it was helpful! 😀
Great video. I am a newer weaver and was curious about boat shuttles. You not only answered the questions I didn't know I had but you provided me a great idea for my Christmas wishlist. Thank you!
This is exactly what I was going to say! Been curious for a long time about it and the boat shuttle just made it on to mu Xmas list. Thank you for this video!
You're welcome Lori!
A well put together video and a well co ordinated weaver and project (scarf and warp). Well done!
Thank you!
I bought a boat shuttle and I found they come I. Different thicknesses. The one I got really is not practical for my cricket - so I use my stick shuttle so I don’t have to advance the warp every few minutes. I’m thinking about getting a thinner model.
With my table 4 harness loom the boat shuttle works fine.
This is really interesting. I have a boat shuttle that came with my Saori loom but I’ve never thought about using it with my rigid heddle loom. I’m definitely going to give that a go. Thank you Kelly 😊
Great that you have one already 😀
This video helped a lot. I have been thinking about buying a boat shuttle, and now I think I will. Oh, and I really love your colors used on your project!
Thank you Cate!
Thanks Kelly. The “drop through” you describe is one of the things I was worried about. I was surprised at how heavy the boat shuttle felt in comparison to my stick shuttle and was a bout concerned my arm would ache faster 😊.
I’m still very much a beginner so not progressed to finer yarns yet but I’ll definitely try one.
If anyone has a 3D printer I have seen there are a few models on line to download so I might see if one of those works for me too.
Am thinking about a boat shuttle for my rigid heddle and your information is invaluable. Thank you.
You're welcome Nora, glad to help!
I’m a beginning weaver on RH and multishaft. So far, my favorite thing is a long ski shuttle. I have a Gilmakra and one that says Sweden. They are both carved from solid wood with no glue or joins.
I like the ones that have tops and bottoms. These shuttle “let you know” if you accidentally picked up a float. Get them long enough that you don’t have to “shoot it” more than 5 or 6 inches between your hands.
I’d only use a boat shuttle on finer threads on the multishaft.
Whoops, I really thought I’d looked through all the comments before asking Kelly about ski shuttles. Now I see you’ve mentioned them too, Karen. When you/others talk about not using it for thinner wefts, do you mean unusually fine ones or…? Is there a weight you’d consider the general guide for when a yarn is thick enough, like Kelly mentions using boat shuttles sometimes for fingering weight yarns and almost always for most thinner?
Still curious to see Kelly’s thoughts on the single and double ski shuttles with RHL, too. (And end feed/end delivery shuttles, for that matter.)
I’ve been thinking about getting a boat shuttle so this is great timing!!
👍👍😊
This video answered some of my question 🤗 awesome video! Thank you for all the information.
Glad it was helpful!
I was just looking at my boat shuttle a friend gave me today and was wondering this exact thing. I'm on my third weaving project on my Ashford rigid heddle. I'm totally going to try it out. Thanks so much!!!
Great, enjoy! 😀
All I have to do is ask a question out loud and you answer it🙂
I got a boat shuttle for my 28" Ashford knitters loom but it made weaving difficult. The shuttle is made of plastic and it didn't slide easily. Might have to try a wooden one before I make up my mind. Thanks for the information 😁
I haven't tried a plastic one, so I can't compare, but the wooden ones certainly do slide beautifully.
Thanks so much for your videos. I have been enjoying them. I will sign up for the classes I think.
Thanks Deb!
Thank you, Kelly, for this video. I only have one boat shuttle--a slim one--and have never used it. I don't know if I have the piece to wind the yarn onto so I'll check into that. I do really like working with stick shuttles; I have several lengths and weights of shuttles, the best ones being walnut. They're very thin and light and I love working with them. I'll try the boat shuttle at some point but I need to have the correct weight yarn as you suggest before I try using it.
Recently purchased a boat shuttle in anticipation of using it on my new (just received but not out of the box yet) 8 shaft table loom. I am going to give it a try on my Ashford RHL first. Don’t want to have too many learning curves at one time. Great video. Thank you. It helps to build my confidence!
I think you will find it very easy to use Joanne, you get used to the difference so quickly.
Thank you for an informative video, Kelly. I have already taken the plunge into boat shuttles. I purchased two from HandyWoman - both slim and made for RH looms. I have tried out the single bobbin and really like it for thinner yarns. Haven't tried out the double bobbin version yet. There is definitely a little bit of a learning curve.
Glad you found what works for you 😊
Great info Kelly, very useful. Thank you.
You're welcome!
Thankyou for this video,
Kelly, Andrew here (Melbourne)
I've had 4boat shuttles for years now, and I've made my own paper bobbins, in my 24 years of weaving, 16 of those years, I'll never go back to stick shuttles, it was a godsend to change,
And yes I've looked forward to your videos on YT.
Thankyou again, all the way form Melbourne.🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓
Thank you Andrew! 😊
My Leclerc came with a small plastic one. I use only with lite threads. I have one wooden and it's usually loaded with white crochet yarn I use for the first 1/2 to 3/4" weft when I intend to sew the hems.
Our weaving guild had several boat shuttles for sale. I was surprised about the variety there are. The one I bought was the slim one in the pile. It works great!
Wonderful!
Saori 42cm is a great shuttle to use as you can use thick or thin yarns.
Great info thanks for the suggestion.
Great topic Kelly. Thank you
You're welcome Amy, thanks for watching! 😊
Thanks for this! I enjoy your videos!
Thank you!
I used a boat shuttle on my rigid heddle
I used it because I was frankly frustrated with the stick shuttle being longer the my arm
or when been working near a wall and the stick plus my arm length hits the wall.
Yes, that is really annoying! 😆 Sometimes I hit my camera with it too 🤭
I am still working on your Beginner's Floor Loom Project from your On Line Weaving School. By the way, the colors and pattern of this scarf is so pretty. I never thought I needed to purchase a boat shuttle since I had plenty of stick shuttles. What was I thinking about trying to use one with 8/2 tencel yarn! This is impossible to do since the thin thread will not make the ends wind neatly. This is something I never even thought about. By the way, this has to be the longest project on record as a student! I am undoing the weaving, I need now to purchase the proper boat shuttle for this project. Thank you for making this video.
You will love using a boat shuttle with your floor loom Loretta, it's so much faster and easier 😊
Excellent video! I’m very interested in getting a “flow” going with my weaving and anything that can help me do that I’m all for. I’m also thinking about a long & wide project (window shades) where I might run 2 fiber threads concurrently and I know there are some double bobbin shuttles available. Thank you for creating this video to help us out here in “virtual world”
You're welcome!
Great content. Thank you!
Thanks Kathy 😊
I own an Ashford loom but decided to purchase a Leclerc boat shuttle considering the much lower cost. As you mentioned, I was worried about it being too large for the narrow shed but it seems to throw nicely. I’m looking forward to making some dish towels with some 8/2 cotton and the boat shuttle as soon as I finish the piece I’m working on now.
Great! 😀
Thank you again.
I have always wondered about boat shuttle vs sticks, I tend to become a pirate with my stick- it’s just so big in my small space to be unwinding
Thank you very much. I was told I couldn’t use a boat shuttle
Thank you very much for this video 😊
You're welcome 😀
I've seen many boat shuttles in antique stores here in the US but didn't know what they were.
BEAUTIFUL VIDEO 💖
Thank you!!
Thank you 🌹👍
I use drinking straws in my boat shuttle.
Thank you.
You're welcome!
As always an excellent tutorial! Would you recommend an open bottom or closed bottom boat shuttle with a rigid heddle loom? Thank you
I've only used an open bottom, I would be interested to try closed as well.
I find the design of that boat shuttle interesting! My mother has one (seemingly) from the Industrial Revolution and yours is a lot more simplistic.
The older shuttles could’ve come from an industrial weaving mill. We often find them in antique stores in the US, near where a commercial clothing mill once stood. 🤷🏻♀
My son made me a boat shuttle when was about 16. Assembled, not carved from a single piece of wood.
Wow, that's cool!
I couldn't find where any one else asked this question, but what kind of bobbin winder is that and where can I find one? All I have been able to find are outrageously priced. I love the simplicity of the one you showed. Help, please ! :)
Mine came with a secondhand loom I bought. Before that I was using a power drill to wind bobbins.
Hi Kelly, great explanation. I use a thin Schacht boat shuttle open bottom and closed bottom, and since I’ve started using one it’s hard to use a stick shuttle any more. There are times that I do need to use the stick shuttle… when I use a pickup stick pattern for one. The boat shuttle does take some getting used to I found.
Question: I love your scarf, I’m assuming you wove it. Is there a pattern for it? Thanks 🙃
Thank you, yes I did weave the scarf, just for myself. It's a twill pattern and 60/2 silk - very fine!
I was wondering if the boat shuttle helps to minimize floats. I have a problem with that when using the stick shuttle. Thank you very much for the video.
Yes, I think it does, but the best insurance against unwanted floats is good warp tension.
@@KellyCasanova thank you very much
I'm interested in the weaving you working on, is that one of your classes/patterns? This was an interesting video even to hear about the down shed loser warp- I had found that problem and thought it was my bad warping. Also I don't have a boat shuttle but would like one...maybe I will ask for one for christmas
I had/have? the same issue with the down shed being looser. I also thought it was a warping problem, now maybe I don't need to obsess over it so much!
Hi Carys, It's from my newest pattern - www.etsy.com/au/listing/1311624503/cheryls-wrap-pdf-pattern-for-rigid?click_key=bbbd07b269b80903f5415b98b3efadf76e848db3%3A1311624503&click_sum=145713a2&ref=shop_home_feat_4&bes=1&sts=1
This is very helpful. I’m wondering about hand winder - are they readily available?
Windsrs are expensive but I used a rosies bobbin winder from the Wollery
It just clips into a drill and works super well
Mine actually came with a recent used floor loom purchase, it was included in the sale along with some other bits and pieces. New ones usually range from $100USD upwards, and there are quite a few different brands available.
Hi Kelly! Total newbie here, my apologies. Do you have thoughts on ski/double ski shuttles for RHL? I love the idea but it sounds like maybe they don’t work great with thinner yarns?
What about using an end-delivery shuttle for the entire project? Does the pirn hold less yarn? Is cost the main thing preventing these shuttles being used more?
Sorry, I can't really help with this question as I haven't used a ski or end delivery shuttle 😕
I don’t have enough room to use my boat shuttle. I have very tight sheds. I have a Kromski 24.
That's interesting, I wonder if there are any other Kromski weavers here who have the same issue?
I recently purchased a LeClerc's colored boat shuttle as I was intrigued by the videos that showed them sailing across the loom. However, mine just simply dropped right through to the floor. I'm sure it is user error, since as a newbie I seem to make a mess of everything. I'll try again at a later date.
There is a bit of a technique to it, along with adequate warp tension. I'm sure with a bit of practice you will be successful 😊
Yup, same thing happened to me. I had bought the same boat shuttle after reading somewhere that the size was fine for a rigid heddle loom’s shed. Today I tried my new Ashford boat shuttle in a narrower warp which is a cotton acrylic bulky and it works great. I’m also awaiting two super slim boat shuttles from Handywoman, a single and a double bobbin. Really excited.
Also what is the warp yarn on your loom? Do you have tutorial for this weaving? Thank you
It's mostly tencel. It's my newest Etsy pattern, Cheryl's Wrap - www.etsy.com/au/listing/1311624503/cheryls-wrap-pdf-pattern-for-rigid?click_key=37e731663774e516e18aab83b692ed2c0c8811b4%3A1311624503&click_sum=30d7ffc3&ref=shop_home_feat_4&bes=1&sts=1
I think for myself it’s just the cost . Worth trying some st the local guild
Yes, that's a great idea Jenny 😊
How much it takes for making 1 meter cloth in table loom ...?
I’ll give my boat shuttle another go. I have the Ashford one as well, with an Ashford knitters loom. My boat shuttle kept turning into a submarine shuttle. Would this be because I have the knitters loom instead of the rigid heddle? I wonder.
Does the knitter's loom have a different angle when weaving in the down shed? I'm not sure about that but if that's the case it could be different using a boat shuttle. Besides that, I would say it's just warp tension.
Probably. I can't use any boats on my knitter's loom. On my rigid heddle they work fine.
Hello,
First thank you for your classes , the lessons are so clear.
I’m new in weaving and I learn from your classes .
I have a question, could you tell me why when I weave fine thread like 2/8 cotton with a comb 15 the threads do not move completely when the comb is in the bottom position. With the comb in the up position everything moves well.
In the down position I always need to replace the threads manually, do you think that by using a boat shuttle will solve the problems
Thank you in advance.
I'm not quite sure what you mean by "comb" - is that the heddle/reed you're referring to? I don't think a boat shuttle would be the solution here, if I'm understanding you correctly it sounds more like a warp tension issue.
Thank you, I will look at your videos to find help with the tension . You’re right when I talk about the comb I meant the heddle. Since I am from Quebec my first language is French….and Google translate is not perfect in technical translation
Hey Kelly,
I just started using a boat shuttle on a table loom. I'm used to having a long enough (longer than warp width) shuttle on my rigid heddle that loose tension in the lower heddles wasn't much of a problem but I'm having some real trouble with the boat falling or poking through. I've tried tightening it up more but it just brings the metal rods of the shafts to bend and doesn't help much?
I'm using a very fine merino yarn so I wouldn't want to have to use the 'normal' shuttle.
I don't have anyone I know who's experienced with table looms to ask so I thought that maybe you had a tip or can tell from this description what I might be doing wrong? It's so disheartening and frustrating :/
Thank you!!
I have always found it a bit of a challenge to adequately tension a wider warp on a table loom. This may vary between table looms depending on the manufacturer, but as I've only ever used one brand of table loom I can't comment too much on that. I remember the first time I wove a blanket on an 80cm table loom, it was super frustrating with the boat shuttle constantly diving. It's all about the warp tension. If you find that your tension is not adequate for the project you're working on, I would try various wedging techniques, as shown in this video- ua-cam.com/video/YERj4AdWe20/v-deo.html
I have an ashford 32 in rhl so im not sure what boat shuttle to get
I would definitely get the larger one for that width of loom.
Have you used the boat shuttle with your Ashford table loom? If you have, did you modify the loom? I have been having the "diving" through the bottom of the shed problem.
Yes, I've used it with my Ashford table loom plenty. The key is in the tension - shuttle diving is caused by lack of warp tension.