Hi Tom, I really appreciate your interview with Donald. I have studied perspectives from the Mystics, Eastern Philosophy science, spirituality, and religions. It is really apparent that all are trying to describe the same undesirable source. Many mainstream religions have fallen down a rabbit hole but still have meaning if we just dig deep enough or reinterpreted what the original messages were trying to tell us. Donald knows Rupert Spira and Bernardo Kastrup. Both also have really interesting perspectives. Thanks again for sharing this fascinating interview,
What Donald said from 1 hour 19 min through 1 hour 22 was spot on. As someone else said in a previous comment, we need a paradigm shift! We now know that physical reality is a projection of the stories we believe to be true so I vote for changing the storyline to love and oneness instead of fear and separateness.
@@SlavejobsI know it feels counterintuitive to many people but try and grasp that all you'll ever read or hear happens within the constraints of space/ time. You want to understand something that resides beyond that, but to understand you first need to interact with it, and your brain is not of help in such endeavour. By you insisting it first needs to be filtered through your brain in order to get validated you will always face the wall, unable to cross it, no matter how much you try. Someone who meditates , someone who observes nature closely and reflect on it can get it. But you cannot go beyond space time using the same tool that is confined into space time. You're going to have to entertain the hypothesis ( just for a little while at least) that the brain is a headset, an amazing one! but to explore behind the headset while wearing the headset is not the way.
This is the best Hoffman interview I've seen yet. He made everything very clear and simple. Explained it like I was a 5 year old, which next to him, I am! Really, really good! Thank you!
Governments are run by pedophilic psychopaths. Corporations are founded by good men, but are eventually run by malignant narcissists. These two classes of humans need to be sequestered for there to be any improvement.
I am happy to see that someone on your team coached you or you're self-aware enough to have seen the last time you interviewed Hoffman it was a trainwreck because of how often you interrupted him. You were more conversational in this episode and allowed him to explain some of these abstractions around his theories. Thanks for that.
I didn't see the previous interview and can't finish this one due to the constant interruptions. Dr. Hoffman hasn't yet been allowed to finish an answer and its only 5 minutes into the "interview''. Too bad. I'm always looking for recent interviews with Dr. Hoffman and Bernardo Kastrup. So back to the UA-cam searching.
This talk was mind-blowing for me. I cannot pretend to understand all that was shared but I will say that it uplifted me. I feel more capable of becoming a stronger and healthier individual. I wanted to highlight too that hearing someone of Donald D Hoffman’s caliber admit to the attachment to the avatar and admit his fear while facing almost certain death was the most inspiring thing I’ve ever heard. That gave you even more credibility because I could relate to you. I’m not a scientist but I am a human like you and you sharing your vulnerability was an incredibly beautiful moment. Thank you.
I didn't listen that far to hear "the attachment to this avatar and the fear of death" but I do know I've been warned "Do not fear" and I take that into consideration. Survival here is not the mission, since in the end we don't survive, but to reproduce more to live in this realm of survival. The Matrix/womb needs bodies to produce energy for it's survival .. we are its fuel. This is a place of reproduction for the benefit of the Matrix, not our own. We are used and abused by it for the small pleasures given us to think this existance is for us. This is an up-side-down place where the lie is our truth. It is said " this is not our world" and this Truth has been turned into a lie. We value this avatar, the means to exist here, and we fight death to exist and survive longer in a place that is not our Home.
@@rhodarose3451 I understood what you said. The womb machines in Matrix movies is represented in our world as Nature and genetic and reproductive system. So you used the Matrix movie abstraction and reference. People that thinking you are just talking about the movie are not taking your point.
@@kawaiiufocafe5399 I never was notified of other comments, just yours. Thank you. I wasn't really referencing the movie .. haven't even watched it, only what others have said about it. Just comparing the word matrix to womb, as in the bible book .. and how people consider the reason we even exist here in this realm .. fighting to survive in a place of sure death .. Forgive me, having "one of those days" .. and I just woke up, no coffee yet .. LOL Have a Good Day and a Great Life Love to All
41:00 space time breaks down at 10 to minus 33, Planck length. Below that number, you create a black hole. 1:01:20 Nobel prize, local realism 1:05:00 rendering reality 1:07:00 Nobel prize shows local realism is false 1:11:40 simulation theory still based on space time, hence wrong 1:12:40 assumptions of scientific theories 1:16:30 Godel's incompleteness theorem 1:18:20 reason is telling us its limits 1:19:15 If logic is internally consistent, it's necessarily incomplete. Theories are either inconsistent or incomplete 1:21:00 intelligence greater than scientific intelligence 1:24:40 there's one fundamental consciousness that cannot be modeled but can have projections
When a door is closed (black hole) we don’t know what is on the other side but we cannot say we don’t understand what’s inside just because we don’t have key to open black hole??? What if after opening black hole everything makes sense. Uneducated comment.
I absolutely loved the Newton quote about the seashell and the ocean. It's almost like each one of your videos is his own unique individual seashell. I stop and I study each one for a little while and keep moving on. When I look back there's an entire beach full of beautiful seashells and more and more discoveries to study! Thank you so much!
My favorite analogy is thinking of the one consciousness as the a black crayon or the color black. It contains all the other colors but when you view it you only see the one. It splits into the dimensions and all the other potential realities (the spectrum of colors/frequencies) to experience itself. Simple as that. It would seem that if an energy held all possibilities inside itself it would be almost a compulsion to want to “view” all those different possibilities…which from our level of understanding are infinite. Our life experiences and what we choose to observe are just an expression…one of the infinite possibilities. It’s kind of the same compulsion we feel to view movies and the experiences of the characters…or to hear stories about other peoples lives. I love thinking about it this way because it means that no experience is wrong…just an expression of the one…the black/dark energy/potential. He did an excellent job explaining a very difficult to comprehend topic.
Combining all colors of light creates white light, not black. Non-photons perhaps can create a darker color but light behaves counter-intuitively. Good analogy nonetheless,
@@tehdebil thanks! I went and googled and saw a great explanation of how this works. “Light is additive color and paint is subtractive. When you paint something green, you're not exactly "putting green" on the object but instead putting a substance that reflects only green and absorbs the other colors. Thus, our eyes see the object as green. If you mix all the colors of paint together you get black because you've created a substance that subtracts (absorbs) all the colors and to us, an absence of light is seen as black. With light, you're combining colors and not removing them. That's why when you mix all additive colors it's perceived by our eyes as white. So if you think about it, white light is the most colorful color.
I almost didn't watch this as I've seen tons of Hoffman interviews but Tom's questions are by far the most incisive and revealing of any other interviewer including Michael Schermer (clueless), Sam Harris and Lex Fridman. I continue to be astonished at how few of not just the general public but physicists themselves are aware of this cutting edge foundational work. Oh, and Tom, cut down on the ads.
Amen on the ads. I pay to have no ads and there were still ads from Tom. This was a tough interview to understand. His ads made that SO much harder. No idea how you guys coped with other ads as well.
YES I am leaving now due to the ads. Trying to relax in bed, even sleep...so that all this info us is absorbed thru my subconscious is Impossible due to the ADS. GOODBYE.
Hi. Tom i just wanted to let you know how much i appreciate you bringing such deep content to me but more than that you make sure to dumb it down enough for me to understand which is so immensely helpful. im am so interested but i worry that i dont always understand how they are explaining. so from the bottom of my heart thank you for making content that is so understandable ❤
I love this kind of stuff, but holy ads batman this is a real test of my will to continue! I'm trying to recreate my reality to have no more ads in real time.
In his book The Case Against Reality, Donald Hoffman put - hands down - the best work I read about consciousness. Hats off for the best teacher I've never had!
@@maxinehumpherys1643 Yes I did years ago. I remember how I was delving deep into 100s of pages waiting for the "science" promise he made but I found nothing. I felt a bit offended to be honest! But this was in the past. Now, although I am not against his brilliant self-made belief system, I find his books too fantasising. I lean more toward hard science. Still I enjoy listening to him sometimes, but I take it with a pinch of salt that he uses science as a read bait.
@@maxinehumpherys1643 Tom Campbell said that he had the covid jabs, that should tell you how much you should trust that guy. Has he ever spoken out against NASA and the staged moon landings? I don't think so.
@@Alex-hr2df If you are looking for the best Theory of Everything I deeply recommend you listen Stephen Wolfram and his Physics project. For me it is the most profound and complete so far.
Physicist Thomas Campbell has been saying that consciousness is fundamental, for many years. He has hundreds of UA-cam videos for those just beginning to entertain these ideas. Also he has written a trilogy called My Big Toe, which is a great easy read, based on his exploration of consciousness. He starts his lectures with an explanation of the double slit experiment and closes with the reason we are here is to become Love, by lowering our entropy. Donald, many thanks for your patience and wonderful explanations. What an amazing time to be alive!
@Iam Me Alex Jones is a well known conspiracy loon that everyone, even you, knows... which makes him the perfect example. Name someone else who's a household name primarily for being a conspiracy loon
@@yourlogicalnightmare1014 the difference is Alex used it to intentionally cause harm to real people. This discussion on nature of reality is completely different.
What they are saying works. You can live in extreme poverty and travel the world and never go hungry all at the same time. Just don’t think about too hard. Ask for what you want and be prepared when it shows up.
For me, this brings up so much potential for the spiritual/metaphysical realm of reality. I've been listening to a lot of NDE's (near death experiences), and the other side (perhaps, true reality?) Is so beautiful and blissful for the most part, many people don't even want to come back to their earthly existence. Which is obviously a very big hindrance to reproductive fitness! So to me, it makes sense that in this "reality" that we perceive, where we experience separation and struggle etc, we are so cut-off from the true reality of connection and oneness because there aren't really any fitness payoffs.
NDE "spirits" or whatever they are (not saying they exist outside of the person's brain, we just don't know) asking for the person to go back to life to "experiment" (it's not your time yet! You have to go back!") sounds like the goal of these conscious agents is to experiment existence in a "separate" body.
This discussion and breaking it down for the layperson is SO important…. The general population is a decade or more behind in their understanding of these new findings. 🌺🙏🌺
I am truely amazed!! This is totally true. Thing only exist and persiste when you want it to be real. That why you should avoid social media and mainstream false news. Go inside yourself and perception, you'll be filled. No anxiety, no fear... it doesn't belong to you. You are the captain of your fate, the Master of your soul. No one is above you, we seem differentes outside, but all commun inside. Create your own script, own destiny and you'll be outside the Matrix. Outside the 99% who thing in negative way.
Beautifully and accurately stated Josephine! Your words resounded so deeply with me. As if you are a kindred spirit:) Much love and positivity and prosperity to you my friend!
Tom Bilyeu, In the past, I have criticized you for interrupting your guests, but you have truly reached perfection with this interview! You asked all the right questions, and at the right time, you clearly understand the subject. I thoroughly enjoyed this and learned a ton!
I swear! I feel like he got the comments talking about interrupting too much and that he has worked on it, because I've realized that he has kind of started listening more and just picking the important parts and not being so long-winded with his interruptions.
@Queensruleperiodt. but his questions were probing, and at the right time too! He knew when it got too complex and stopped it to get a breakdown on it. I appreciated this very much!
No I thought this was awful, he keeps interrupting!! Almost as if he's trying to show how clever he is or like this talk is all for his benefit. Frustrating.
This ended up autoplaying after another video finished for me. I frequently watch things on quantum physics/mechanics and sometimes watch lectures on semi-related topics but I had never even heard of this channel. This was one of the most fascinating and enlightening videos I've ever seen.
Of all the content I have heard on this subject. This is probably the most complete and explanatory. I have listened to this video a few times. The conversation for me is at that right level of data, explication, and analogies for these concepts. Tony smash up job of asking the right questions and guiding the conversation to make it digestible. The guest is real impressive in his understanding and explanation. I have pondered on theses concepts and a lot of my understanding has been a bit scattered this has really helped to pull it all together as well as introducing new areas of learning. I really enjoyed listening
Life is a simulation to evolve our soul/consciousness. That's why there are old souls because they've been on this earth before and things click easier for them than others with fewer lifetimes. Unfortunately for us the evils control and run the world so we are in a matrix that hinders our growth and understanding of this. That's why Sam Smith came out in a devil costume, he was paying homage to the evils that control the entertainment industry by doing a ritual during a full moon last Sunday. Shits way deeper than most can ever imagine
Tom!!! You have to make a video on the possible connection between the head set and NDE's, it would be an amazing conversation. Please research this study done on thousands of patients who flat lined whi were able to prove that they were aware and to see what took place while the staff worked on them. in my opinion, people who had near death experiences, are able to get out of the cheap head set, they report that they are out of their body and can see in 360 degrees and, they do say that they can see things with a highly clear vision even if not in their body. They also report that the moment they think of a place, they are there. This scientist is right. You have to think out of the head set because that is where our consciousness is, not in our physical brain.
I never pretend to be smart, and this discussion served to reinforce my pattern. I don’t have enough superlatives to describe how exciting this was to listen to. Normally my conscious shuts down when the volume of info is so far over my head but I stayed focused the entire time. The last bit on death; I’m not aware of a fear of dying, just an strong curiosity. I want to know! Not enough to induce or hasten the end (I view that as cheating) but damn it! I want to know what happens when our physical expires.
It was said long ago in the Indian texts that we live in a dream world [MAYA]. The concept of time and space is an invention of our minds. Go beyond the mind by meditation and find out the truth.
I’m a huge fan of Donald Hoffman and I would say that’s the best interview I’ve seen of him. Even the last part which was about his personal experiences with Covid was incredible. Great job. The psychedelia experience leans towards love I think as a foundation of everything
As a hint, in this movie we are called human BEINGS. This implies that we do not do anything, the movie we are in does the doing. Unconditional love is total acceptance, with no judgement. This follows from the idea we BE, we don't DO. This is a movie we experience. So when we leave the movie theater, we are not responsible for the movie, the avatar we experienced that we identified with.
This is super interesting Donald's work is mind blowing and Tom did a great job with questions, clearly put some time and effort in. Really good, thanks!
As above so below. Shape is everything. Consciousness. Fractals, scale, repetition. Death. I haven't been so mesmerized in a long time and been left with a sense of 'somehow I knew this'. This was a total mind fuck in the best sense possible. Lots to learn and experience ahead. Thank you for this.
Yes!! And he's so brave! No fear about "what will the others say/ write/ think"!! And that issue has stopped alot of brilliant persons. Thanks for such an interesting Video! 🙏👍
This is one example what Hoffman is talking about. The main optic nerve passes through the retina, creating a small area that does not contain any light-sensitive cells called "rods" and "cones." Because of this, there is a corresponding blind spot in our visual field. However, our brain is able to fill in this blind spot using information from the surrounding areas of the visual field, creating a seamless visual experience.
Ha. Like George Castanza on Seinfeld where he discovered that he became tremendously successful when he always did the complete opposite of everything he took for good sense.
Another great show. Thank you. What Mr. Hoffman describes, trying to see beyond our “headset,” is Plato's Allegory of the Cave. It is unlikely Plato used the math Hoffman uses, so there is another way to get out. Plato described our cave well. Except there are no chains.
It's great to hear that Donald mentions Eckhart Tolle, since Tolle is one of the few persons (still possessing a headset), who can teach us to put down this headset temporarily while still living and breathing and enjoy pure being (instead of requiring joy and attention for particular reasons of your physical representation). The basis of fear and agony in life is identification and clinging to the illusion of constant personalities, beliefs, dogmas or paradigms. You don´t need to understand life to enjoy it, you have to learn to accept unconditional being without reason or specific desire. Or as Joe Dispenza would say it: You have to learn to become no one to be able to be someone!
So many people talk about his interrupting the guests but I appreciate it. He stops them and asks good questions and/or breaks down the point they just made into something more digestible. Always great guests and interesting topics and additional ways to think of the topics with fantastic audience comments. Thank you much!
In dreams you can become aware of having experienced a different personal history. And it feels as familiar and convincing as our usual personal history. Re - When Don talks about continuation of consciousness and personal identity..
When I had my first philosophy classes back in college , I heard for the first time the word "metaphysics” . And the teacher just said to us , it’s the science of causes and effects . And I was amazed at how there’s was people in this world that studies things that sounds so complex but so simple at the same time . Now 10 years later I start to read about hermeticism and it just blows my mind how everything is connected .
Yeah I was literally thinking when he said it's not possible to perceive reality (happens around the 17:00 mark) in our current form I got a strong soul resonance. I was thinking to myself how through meditation you learn to disconnect from your "VR headset" built by nature and really take a peek inward, past the veil, for some truly intense experiences. So like I could just imagine Tom's soul looking at him as a 6d, 10d, whatever-d construct and resonating with his 3d self on a very powerful level as this fundamental truth clicked for him. I feel like this whole talk was Tom just realizing so many things his soul must be aware of all along given it's higher dimensional structure.
This is another great intvu with Donald. I could watch and listen to him all day. However even his explanation “of the true structure of the world” is way too simplistic and I believe just scratches the surface. More to come!
I had an spiritual awakening 5 years ago. Since then it has been a whole new travel in this life I have. It has been amazing and also terrible at times. I am still moving in this new awareness. Donald Hoffman has provided this... skeleton/backbone for what I am seeking. Sometimes my mind wants proof that the spirituality is founded on.. something that is accountable..? Donald helps me to move forward in that discouvered plain because he gives me a sence of truth. Yeah. Thank you so much for stepping forward mister Hoffman and being part of my quest. Thank YOU!!!
Man, what a blown minding video. This video has me questioning a lot more than my mind first could imagine. Great job, Tom, this has to be by far my favorite video. I did not want it to end, haha.
One of the most interesting conversations I have ever listened to. This discussion is bridging some of the gaps between science and religion. I always new that science will only take us full circle back to God. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Inner monologue: this is how I view this world and life; you come into this world curious and learning, so the first topics are who are you and who is your support network, so self identification then outer identification, second you learn what you are capable of and expand on those subjects then you keep adding or subtracting (depending on your focus and evolution) then you find out that every decision you make has a expression and a reaction, both yours and everyone else's, also ripples of consequence into the reality you are in (depending on what you do and how you do it) so then you think to yourself "hmmmm, I wonder what so and so would say, or do, or how would they act and react to this?" Then you do it or say it and set it in motion then you wait to see what happens, the polarity comes from good reactions or bad reactions, AKA favorable or not favorable, so you are learning in a way what is considered the natural rhythms as well as recording what to do and what not to do and different ways to go about and then self awareness and expansion. I wonder if he knows about the admin-recoding of reality through meditation, intention drawing and manifestion.
@SkySartix for some people and their "Alternative Facts" it's simply what they say that is "true" - which is obviously self-deception. The fact is that the "illusion" is still Real, because outside of that illusion there is nothing you can comprehend. It's like the difference between Zero and Oblivion. Zero exists as an arbitrary placeholder (an illusion) - yet Oblivion is impossible. Therefore, by analogy, "True Reality" (like Oblivion) is also impossible. Try studying the Vedic Tetralemma and you will begin to understand.
I love love love this conversation! On so many levels. I so appreciate the ‘realness’ of it, even though it’s not. 😁 seriously, we need more of Mr. Hoffman. He is great with the layman.
I agree with Donald Hoffmann 💯 percent. I came to the understanding that no matter how far humans dig and how many equations we crunch and how much we look behind the curtain, reality will always expand to forever keep us questioning. We can never ever know God. Because to know the creator (whatever that may be) is to become the creator and that’s impossible.
❤ in some ways. Yes, I do believe that we live in the matrix. It’s all about the perception. Our mind is our greatest asset if we allow us to see it that way. Thank you so much for the interview! I learned a lot.❤
Very deep conversation ... I was feeling strange after watching it so I went to look in the mirror and all I saw were headlights shining in my eyes ... when I squinted I could make out a deer staring back at me ... Haha! Great talk! Quite interesting.
❤ Absolutely love what you're saying. I watched you once before. Absolutely fascinating. It is so easy to understand life. Now I get it so easy every time I turn around. I realize that it is all so easy to understand it life now. Life is so easy now that it's just thank you so much knowing that makes life. I can't even tell you how much I thank you for all. Thit is so easy to understand my life. Now. That's all I can say it all makes sense. This one lecture is somehow as a Native American. Would say that you are a fascinating man who makes sense and makes the world sensible, thank you again
What blows my mind is every complex design has an architect, so how genius is our creator to create such a vast, dense, ridiculously complex universe with a practically infinite amount of variation in all topics?!?? I mean it’s a miracle alone that SOMEHOW we dan have an infinite number of different human faces and fingerprints not to mention a practically infinite number of different planets and who knows what else in this incredible universe!!!
@@ajwright85 The chances are much higher though considering everything we know in life that has a complex design has a creator. It would just be chaos without one. I find it interesting that despite what I said about every complex design should have an architect, you still seem more skeptical than not OF a creator despite videos like this which demonstrate that life has such intelligent design! And how could there not be a creator if the BEST MINDS of every generation can’t figure out life FULLY?!?? And when they do figure out one aspect of life, the system they figured out has a system in place that makes absolute sense, so it’s not chaos. It’s intelligent design!!! Using common sense, I don’t think such intelligent design could be without a creator that bests even the best minds of today!!! If nothing created the universe, there wouldn’t be order, there would be chaos! Systems don’t come together all by themselves without a blueprint put in place FIRST!!!
@@Mr.Honest247 chaos & order, they both remain the same & change in space & over time. Patterns & cycles of constant change, constant chaos & constant order arising from chaos & constantly changing order seem to be the ultimate paradox of existence & embedded in consciousness. Intelligent design exists as much as passive innovation & unintelligent design. Is antibiotic resistance in bacteria the result of intelligent adaptation to drugs intelligently designed? Are the side effects of drugs intelligent design or unintelligent flaws in design or is there no seperation possible in a universe where chaos & order, design & destruction coexist & can never be separated? Fascinating universe we find our consciousness in, fascinating topics & who really knows if light is pure energy or if it is simply a waste product of dark matter?!?
It is either that the reality is way too complicated for us to recognize and understand, OR our physical setup is simply NOT designed for the purpose to do so. Considering that we might be just a vehicle for the germs to move around and travel significant distances and we were historically enhanced beyond that purpose and we should not even be concious enough beings aware of this design constraint, this whole concept maybe quite close to reality - which means that reality may not be complex, it is just not for us to understand.
Just like in my artwork, there is layer upon layer of images stacked on top of each other to form different perceptions and different angles, that depth of volume could pretty much go in indefinitely as long as I don't go outside the surface area or canvas/paper.
Yes we do and it is all stacked up against us from birth. Unless your parents give you books to read from early childhood, you’re fucked until you stumble upon a friend or a UA-cam video to teach you about a different mindset and what the other side looks like and that it even exists. Stay strong people
I wish I could like this video a 1000 times. So wonderful to have research back up my spiritual believes. Thanks for this, I had goose bumps in the end
It blows my mind that we can have deep discussions like this, and the next video suggested to me is how tens of thousands of people believe the earth is flat.
I think we could go with less adds while watching. Twenty minutes in and there’s been six. You make great stuff. I understand monetizing but It be would nice to be able to watch with less interruptions.
Brother you are so neurotic, but I think that this is where great intelligence is birthed from. Donald, great interview, you had the wisdom and the insight to unwrap the questions and deliver very informative information. Great dialogue from both of you, and thank-you Tom for asking the questions that made this very critical information digestible. I to have spent several years trying to unwrap this wonderful gift, today I am a little closer...namaste
Way too many ads. I used to love this channel because I could listen to inspiring interviews without taking my phone out and pressing skip while gardening, housework or skateboarding with my dog. But now this channel causes anxiety in my heart due to all the interruptions. Too bad. I’d love to share this and all the great info.
UA-cam premium is well worth the monthly subscription cost. Not only can you enjoy any video without another ad ever interrupting it again. As well you do not need to keep your screen on or even on UA-cam while a video plays. Just wanted to share 😊
When you experience something outside the matrix its feels 100x more blissful ,better and more 'real' than anything on material plane. You can also learn to manipulate your personal layer of matrix and experience a more pleasant reality.
Very very nice and interesting.... A view from another prospective..... When I look out into space, and I mentally see all of those stars, all of those nebulae... What I see is the transfer of matter and energy taking place everywhere I look.... The same process is happening right down here on Earth, whether it be the trees, a bug, or you and me... This energy, this consciousness, is in everything... and everything seems to be consistently recycling.... In other words, tree consciousness, bug consciousness, dog, cat, and/or fish consciousness, human consciousness.... then to tie it all together, because we are all connected, Universe consciousness. It seems kind of bizarre, but I believe that this is fact, and this is the truth of our existence. This energy... whatever conscious form it takes all depends on this creation and the process between the transfer of matter and energy... It's like examining your own work and then realizing all of a sudden the answers hit you squarely in the face and you immediately recognize it for what it really is and you finally get it... Energy is consciousness.... and it’s everywhere.... Have a good day and clear skies everyone.... and wherever you are standing on this planet go safely my friends.
I love trying to understand all this. I think answers will always lead to other questions. It just goes on infinity. Fascinating to attempt, for me, to understand!
1:17:37 *I will enjoy investigating, exploring, experimenting, studying, researching, & learning FOREVER! in a paradise here on Earth!* *Ecclesiastes 3: 11 He has made everything beautiful in its time. He has even put eternity in their heart; yet mankind will never find out the work that the true God has made from start to finish.*
Essentially we think we gain understanding of our verse by looking through a limited lens with limited understanding of what the lens is, and eventually we will see enough through the lens that we can understand that we have yet to open our eyes to begin with. I like what Donald said about space/time. I have been thinking about space time as though it's a window with a limited view. If we can redefine consciousness to better understand the reality beyond our limited space time window then we could better understand how immediate awareness effects the scope of said window, allowing us to open the window or at least remove a filter.
My theory is that we 're simply aware that we're aware, contrary to animals and other living organisms, so it FEELS like we're in a simulation. Also, it's important to note, that our brains process ~11 million bits per second, so in order for us to function efficiently, we need to filter out what most essential. For example, catching a ball on time without being distracted by every little detail around us. In other words, If anyone is "hiding" a deeper reality from us, it's our own selves, for our own good 💡
You’re comment made me feel so much better! I agree. Rather than saying our experience is “fake”, there has to be a purpose behind this function of viewing only what we need to view. We also have other abilities that are non tangible and in some cases unexplainable as of yet with concrete proof. We are so much more than meets the eye, but not in a way that diminishes purpose or our experience.
From a die hard atheist as I can describe myself for 8 years, I guess something brought me to watch this and at the same time connect similarities to some nde experiences I watched. Plus so many signs I got over time and I connect them now in a very perfect way. 8 years ago when I left religion I left it because I didn’t buy the story of religion and I didn’t buy any story to be honest, I still don’t . Because we are in a classroom not courtroom as most religions make u feel. Althu each religion has its own perspective of god which is correct sometimes but it’s not the same as any believer can expect. There’s for sure a reality to be exposed when we die, but we shouldn’t fear death because there are two options only , one there is this peaceful limitless happiness reality waiting for us which I feel, and the second option is just we will vanish which means no sensation. In both possibilities we are good. Lately I’m feeling different , I’m treating people differently, I’m taking care of so many things I missed out before. Now I can relate with feeling I had during doing shrooms when I was an atheist, I knew this is not a brain function alone. We existed then we are loved nothing more but we in these limited bodies and brains are struggling in this life from fear and ego. Our first trauma as humans is death, once we overcome it we will learn to love and care for each other
We are in a matrix, and the second life is the real life. We are here on Earth to prepare for that life. What you do here determines the way you will live there. Read the Bible, and it makes perfect sense.
Absolutely right. Space and time were never fundamental. With the knowledge of a known multi dimensions existence, we knows that there are already in formless consciousness. Imagine what can we think and imagine can become reality! We are here like a kindergarten schools learning very basic of imaginary to be mastered in the higher realms of form and formless to manifest reality in our eons universe experiences minds!
Tom, this is an excellent conversation with Dr. Hoffman. I’ve seen interviewers sit down to talk with him only to realize they are in no way prepared to ask this man questions or to engage in a conversation about the topics at hand. Well done, your questions are excellent & as one of those working my through The Case Against Reality, I appreciate that you’ve done your homework. Thank you.
Fascinating conversation. I choose to quiet the mind and let the universe unfold. I find it is in the silence that the answers await. Also a ton less math lol - the science has been changing / evolving for 100+ years. Silence never changes. Best wishes on your journeys !
When he talked about the chess chunk, that really describes my thinking about what consciousness is.... it's a pattern of thought... like a chunk or an algorithm. The process is the same regardless of the subject. You aren't what or why you think but how you think.
Tom! Please get Jason Breshears aka Archaix on your show to talk about the simulation and the Phoenix event! I really want to see how you process his information and it would be good for your audience too. :)
WARNING: I will never ask for your contact info in the comments section, that is someone impersonating me!
How can I trust this is you.?.
Continuing on spiritualism, can you interview Barry from UA-cam channel Giving Voice to the Wisdom of the Ages?
@@tylerrossow1715 cause his nickname is 'BE' for Big Ears!
Hi Tom, I really appreciate your interview with Donald. I have studied perspectives from the Mystics, Eastern Philosophy science, spirituality, and religions. It is really apparent that all are trying to describe the same undesirable source. Many mainstream religions have fallen down a rabbit hole but still have meaning if we just dig deep enough or reinterpreted what the original messages were trying to tell us. Donald knows Rupert Spira and Bernardo Kastrup. Both also have really interesting perspectives. Thanks again for sharing this fascinating interview,
@@tylerrossow1715 because its highlighted.
What Donald said from 1 hour 19 min through 1 hour 22 was spot on. As someone else said in a previous comment, we need a paradigm shift! We now know that physical reality is a projection of the stories we believe to be true so I vote for changing the storyline to love and oneness instead of fear and separateness.
yes, exactly
We know?? Royal "wee" we presume?
Any sources, books to make this possible.
@@SlavejobsI know it feels counterintuitive to many people but try and grasp that all you'll ever read or hear happens within the constraints of space/ time. You want to understand something that resides beyond that, but to understand you first need to interact with it, and your brain is not of help in such endeavour. By you insisting it first needs to be filtered through your brain in order to get validated you will always face the wall, unable to cross it, no matter how much you try. Someone who meditates , someone who observes nature closely and reflect on it can get it. But you cannot go beyond space time using the same tool that is confined into space time. You're going to have to entertain the hypothesis ( just for a little while at least) that the brain is a headset, an amazing one! but to explore behind the headset while wearing the headset is not the way.
I don't think it could be done overnight
This is the best Hoffman interview I've seen yet. He made everything very clear and simple. Explained it like I was a 5 year old, which next to him, I am! Really, really good! Thank you!
Totally agree 👍🏻👍🏻
Love that Donald is spreading this message, the world needs a paradigm shift and so much suffering will end.
Governments are run by pedophilic psychopaths. Corporations are founded by good men, but are eventually run by malignant narcissists. These two classes of humans need to be sequestered for there to be any improvement.
I am happy to see that someone on your team coached you or you're self-aware enough to have seen the last time you interviewed Hoffman it was a trainwreck because of how often you interrupted him. You were more conversational in this episode and allowed him to explain some of these abstractions around his theories. Thanks for that.
It would be nice to listen to the guests finish their thoughts
agreed, I could not watch the last one, I got so upset, with the interruptions.
I didn't see the previous interview and can't finish this one due to the constant interruptions. Dr. Hoffman hasn't yet been allowed to finish an answer and its only 5 minutes into the "interview''. Too bad. I'm always looking for recent interviews with Dr. Hoffman and Bernardo Kastrup. So back to the UA-cam searching.
@@dennisphilpot9561 The first one was unwatchable compared to this one so don't even waste your time.
@@tehdebil I found this one well worth the time, though a few repeat visits will be needed. ua-cam.com/video/xsy8p435DqM/v-deo.html
This talk was mind-blowing for me. I cannot pretend to understand all that was shared but I will say that it uplifted me. I feel more capable of becoming a stronger and healthier individual.
I wanted to highlight too that hearing someone of Donald D Hoffman’s caliber admit to the attachment to the avatar and admit his fear while facing almost certain death was the most inspiring thing I’ve ever heard. That gave you even more credibility because I could relate to you. I’m not a scientist but I am a human like you and you sharing your vulnerability was an incredibly beautiful moment. Thank you.
I didn't listen that far to hear "the attachment to this avatar and the fear of death" but I do know I've been warned "Do not fear" and I take that into consideration.
Survival here is not the mission, since in the end we don't survive, but to reproduce more to live in this realm of survival. The Matrix/womb needs bodies to produce energy for it's survival .. we are its fuel. This is a place of reproduction for the benefit of the Matrix, not our own. We are used and abused by it for the small pleasures given us to think this existance is for us.
This is an up-side-down place where the lie is our truth.
It is said " this is not our world" and this Truth has been turned into a lie. We value this avatar, the means to exist here, and we fight death to exist and survive longer in a place that is not our Home.
@@rhodarose3451you're confusing what they mean by a matrix with the movie matrix :/
@@rhodarose3451 Donald is not talking about Neo's world
@@rhodarose3451 I understood what you said. The womb machines in Matrix movies is represented in our world as Nature and genetic and reproductive system. So you used the Matrix movie abstraction and reference. People that thinking you are just talking about the movie are not taking your point.
@@kawaiiufocafe5399 I never was notified of other comments, just yours. Thank you.
I wasn't really referencing the movie .. haven't even watched it, only what others have said about it. Just comparing the word matrix to womb, as in the bible book .. and how people consider the reason we even exist here in this realm .. fighting to survive in a place of sure death ..
Forgive me, having "one of those days" .. and I just woke up, no coffee yet .. LOL
Have a Good Day and a Great Life
Love to All
41:00 space time breaks down at 10 to minus 33, Planck length. Below that number, you create a black hole. 1:01:20 Nobel prize, local realism 1:05:00 rendering reality 1:07:00 Nobel prize shows local realism is false 1:11:40 simulation theory still based on space time, hence wrong 1:12:40 assumptions of scientific theories 1:16:30 Godel's incompleteness theorem 1:18:20 reason is telling us its limits 1:19:15 If logic is internally consistent, it's necessarily incomplete. Theories are either inconsistent or incomplete 1:21:00 intelligence greater than scientific intelligence 1:24:40 there's one fundamental consciousness that cannot be modeled but can have projections
Wow...thank you! I was hoping to find some comments with time tags but this is beyond helpful. :-)
Black holes are myth created by NASA
The proper simulation theory is not based on space time. You need Jason of archaix
When a door is closed (black hole) we don’t know what is on the other side but we cannot say we don’t understand what’s inside just because we don’t have key to open black hole??? What if after opening black hole everything makes sense. Uneducated comment.
@@HouseKarl yeah I thought it's a hologram and everything is really all projecting from the same point
I love when you have Don on the show! Seriously some of the most interesting conversation ever to exist.
“We’ve got a cheap headset” 😅brilliant, love Dr. Hoffman. Liked all three interviews.
Such an honest and humble guy! Loved Donald's book and I never get tired of listening to him... and you, Tom!
I absolutely loved the Newton quote about the seashell and the ocean. It's almost like each one of your videos is his own unique individual seashell. I stop and I study each one for a little while and keep moving on. When I look back there's an entire beach full of beautiful seashells and more and more discoveries to study! Thank you so much!
My favorite analogy is thinking of the one consciousness as the a black crayon or the color black. It contains all the other colors but when you view it you only see the one. It splits into the dimensions and all the other potential realities (the spectrum of colors/frequencies) to experience itself. Simple as that. It would seem that if an energy held all possibilities inside itself it would be almost a compulsion to want to “view” all those different possibilities…which from our level of understanding are infinite. Our life experiences and what we choose to observe are just an expression…one of the infinite possibilities. It’s kind of the same compulsion we feel to view movies and the experiences of the characters…or to hear stories about other peoples lives. I love thinking about it this way because it means that no experience is wrong…just an expression of the one…the black/dark energy/potential. He did an excellent job explaining a very difficult to comprehend topic.
That is an amazing analogy - thank you 🙏🏾
Put a white disk on a mirror and the white disk under certain natural lighting conditions....is invisible or even black!
@@1SpudderR wow…amazing
Combining all colors of light creates white light, not black. Non-photons perhaps can create a darker color but light behaves counter-intuitively. Good analogy nonetheless,
@@tehdebil thanks! I went and googled and saw a great explanation of how this works.
“Light is additive color and paint is subtractive. When you paint something green, you're not exactly "putting green" on the object but instead putting a substance that reflects only green and absorbs the other colors. Thus, our eyes see the object as green. If you mix all the colors of paint together you get black because you've created a substance that subtracts (absorbs) all the colors and to us, an absence of light is seen as black. With light, you're combining colors and not removing them. That's why when you mix all additive colors it's perceived by our eyes as white. So if you think about it, white light is the most colorful color.
I almost didn't watch this as I've seen tons of Hoffman interviews but Tom's questions are by far the most incisive and revealing of any other interviewer including Michael Schermer (clueless), Sam Harris and Lex Fridman. I continue to be astonished at how few of not just the general public but physicists themselves are aware of this cutting edge foundational work. Oh, and Tom, cut down on the ads.
Amen on the ads. I pay to have no ads and there were still ads from Tom. This was a tough interview to understand. His ads made that SO much harder. No idea how you guys coped with other ads as well.
YES I am leaving now due to the ads. Trying to relax in bed, even sleep...so that all this info us is absorbed thru my subconscious is Impossible due to the ADS. GOODBYE.
Hi. Tom i just wanted to let you know how much i appreciate you bringing such deep content to me but more than that you make sure to dumb it down enough for me to understand which is so immensely helpful. im am so interested but i worry that i dont always understand how they are explaining. so from the bottom of my heart thank you for making content that is so understandable ❤
I love this kind of stuff, but holy ads batman this is a real test of my will to continue! I'm trying to recreate my reality to have no more ads in real time.
Buy premium then don't be cheap
@@El_Silentowas waiting for this comment
In his book The Case Against Reality, Donald Hoffman put - hands down - the best work I read about consciousness. Hats off for the best teacher I've never had!
Have you read Tom Campbell's book My Big TOE (Theory of Everything)?
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Yes I did years ago. I remember how I was delving deep into 100s of pages waiting for the "science" promise he made but I found nothing. I felt a bit offended to be honest! But this was in the past. Now, although I am not against his brilliant self-made belief system, I find his books too fantasising. I lean more toward hard science. Still I enjoy listening to him sometimes, but I take it with a pinch of salt that he uses science as a read bait.
@@maxinehumpherys1643 Tom Campbell said that he had the covid jabs, that should tell you how much you should trust that guy. Has he ever spoken out against NASA and the staged moon landings? I don't think so.
@@AfterBurner369 yeah and the earth is flat, right?
@@Alex-hr2df If you are looking for the best Theory of Everything I deeply recommend you listen Stephen Wolfram and his Physics project. For me it is the most profound and complete so far.
if you taken any psychedelics you'd know there are many more planes of reality than what meets the eye.
Precisely
Are you mistaking planes of reality for perceptions?
Bring on tha shroomz 💪
Steve jobs and micro dosing lsd in silicon valley is a fad
@@skisgy They should be major dosing instead then. Seems pointless to put your swim suit on, if you're only intending to dip your toe in
Physicist Thomas Campbell has been saying that consciousness is fundamental, for many years. He has hundreds of UA-cam videos for those just beginning to entertain these ideas. Also he has written a trilogy called My Big Toe, which is a great easy read, based on his exploration of consciousness. He starts his lectures with an explanation of the double slit experiment and closes with the reason we are here is to become Love, by lowering our entropy.
Donald, many thanks for your patience and wonderful explanations. What an amazing time to be alive!
Tom Campbell borders on the edge of Alex Jones Ouija Board loony. Berardo Kastrup is far more preferable.
@@yourlogicalnightmare1014
To compare Tom to Alex Jones, traitor to America, slanderer of grieving families, Is way too far, Dude.
@Iam Me
Alex Jones is a well known conspiracy loon that everyone, even you, knows... which makes him the perfect example.
Name someone else who's a household name primarily for being a conspiracy loon
@@yourlogicalnightmare1014 the difference is Alex used it to intentionally cause harm to real people. This discussion on nature of reality is completely different.
@Iam Me
You failed to mention a conspiracy loon that is a household name that I should have used instead.
It's wonderful listening to Donald Hoffman. He makes more sense than anyone else. I'm sure he's on the right track !!!
What they are saying works. You can live in extreme poverty and travel the world and never go hungry all at the same time. Just don’t think about too hard. Ask for what you want and be prepared when it shows up.
For me, this brings up so much potential for the spiritual/metaphysical realm of reality. I've been listening to a lot of NDE's (near death experiences), and the other side (perhaps, true reality?) Is so beautiful and blissful for the most part, many people don't even want to come back to their earthly existence. Which is obviously a very big hindrance to reproductive fitness! So to me, it makes sense that in this "reality" that we perceive, where we experience separation and struggle etc, we are so cut-off from the true reality of connection and oneness because there aren't really any fitness payoffs.
Exactly ! I also have been listening to NDE and it just makes completely sense
I’ve been watching NDE experiences and while watching NDE noticed spiritual similarities to what they were talking aboutIN This conversation
@@lydiaannstephens I'm curious what similarities do you see?
NDE "spirits" or whatever they are (not saying they exist outside of the person's brain, we just don't know) asking for the person to go back to life to "experiment" (it's not your time yet! You have to go back!") sounds like the goal of these conscious agents is to experiment existence in a "separate" body.
So true but honestly seems like such a sh*tty situation lol
This discussion and breaking it down for the layperson is SO important…. The general population is a decade or more behind in their understanding of these new findings. 🌺🙏🌺
I am truely amazed!!
This is totally true.
Thing only exist and persiste when you want it to be real.
That why you should avoid social media and mainstream false news.
Go inside yourself and perception, you'll be filled.
No anxiety, no fear... it doesn't belong to you.
You are the captain of your fate, the Master of your soul. No one is above you, we seem differentes outside, but all commun inside.
Create your own script, own destiny and you'll be outside the Matrix. Outside the 99% who thing in negative way.
Beautifully and accurately stated Josephine! Your words resounded so deeply with me. As if you are a kindred spirit:) Much love and positivity and prosperity to you my friend!
Tom Bilyeu, In the past, I have criticized you for interrupting your guests, but you have truly reached perfection with this interview! You asked all the right questions, and at the right time, you clearly understand the subject. I thoroughly enjoyed this and learned a ton!
I swear! I feel like he got the comments talking about interrupting too much and that he has worked on it, because I've realized that he has kind of started listening more and just picking the important parts and not being so long-winded with his interruptions.
@Squirrel 2020 totally!! This shows a high degree of self-awareness and the ability to self improve.
Still feel like he should let the expert speak more.
@Queensruleperiodt. but his questions were probing, and at the right time too! He knew when it got too complex and stopped it to get a breakdown on it. I appreciated this very much!
No I thought this was awful, he keeps interrupting!! Almost as if he's trying to show how clever he is or like this talk is all for his benefit. Frustrating.
This ended up autoplaying after another video finished for me. I frequently watch things on quantum physics/mechanics and sometimes watch lectures on semi-related topics but I had never even heard of this channel. This was one of the most fascinating and enlightening videos I've ever seen.
Of all the content I have heard on this subject. This is probably the most complete and explanatory. I have listened to this video a few times. The conversation for me is at that right level of data, explication, and analogies for these concepts. Tony smash up job of asking the right questions and guiding the conversation to make it digestible. The guest is real impressive in his understanding and explanation. I have pondered on theses concepts and a lot of my understanding has been a bit scattered this has really helped to pull it all together as well as introducing new areas of learning. I really enjoyed listening
#Tom
I owe Mr Hoffman an apology. A while back I felt and wrote that this theory is bunk I now get it!
I forgive you
It's nice to make an apology🙂🙃
Life is a simulation to evolve our soul/consciousness. That's why there are old souls because they've been on this earth before and things click easier for them than others with fewer lifetimes. Unfortunately for us the evils control and run the world so we are in a matrix that hinders our growth and understanding of this. That's why Sam Smith came out in a devil costume, he was paying homage to the evils that control the entertainment industry by doing a ritual during a full moon last Sunday. Shits way deeper than most can ever imagine
well what is it dude
@@simonlinser8286 : You'll have to follow me, get accepted: and I may divulge!
Donald Hoffman!!! This guy’s incredible! Listen to this to have your mind blown y’all 🤯🤯
Tom!!! You have to make a video on the possible connection between the head set and NDE's, it would be an amazing conversation. Please research this study done on thousands of patients who flat lined whi were able to prove that they were aware and to see what took place while the staff worked on them. in my opinion, people who had near death experiences, are able to get out of the cheap head set, they report that they are out of their body and can see in 360 degrees and, they do say that they can see things with a highly clear vision even if not in their body. They also report that the moment they think of a place, they are there. This scientist is right. You have to think out of the head set because that is where our consciousness is, not in our physical brain.
I never pretend to be smart, and this discussion served to reinforce my pattern. I don’t have enough superlatives to describe how exciting this was to listen to. Normally my conscious shuts down when the volume of info is so far over my head but I stayed focused the entire time. The last bit on death; I’m not aware of a fear of dying, just an strong curiosity. I want to know! Not enough to induce or hasten the end (I view that as cheating) but damn it! I want to know what happens when our physical expires.
I’ll have to listen to this a gazillion times to understand.
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Take breaks of total silence in between ❤
It was said long ago in the Indian texts that we live in a dream world [MAYA]. The concept of time and space is an invention of our minds. Go beyond the mind by meditation and find out the truth.
There is also a theory that the universe is mental, but that now seems like a control tactic😂
Yep. It's true too
I’m a huge fan of Donald Hoffman and I would say that’s the best interview I’ve seen of him. Even the last part which was about his personal experiences with Covid was incredible. Great job.
The psychedelia experience leans towards love I think as a foundation of everything
Curt Jaimungal's interview is longer than this one
As a hint, in this movie we are called human BEINGS. This implies that we do not do anything, the movie we are in does the doing. Unconditional love is total acceptance, with no judgement. This follows from the idea we BE, we don't DO. This is a movie we experience. So when we leave the movie theater, we are not responsible for the movie, the avatar we experienced that we identified with.
@@jonahbert111 Tell that to those who died in gas chambers in Auschwitz.
This is super interesting Donald's work is mind blowing and Tom did a great job with questions, clearly put some time and effort in. Really good, thanks!
As above so below. Shape is everything. Consciousness. Fractals, scale, repetition. Death. I haven't been so mesmerized in a long time and been left with a sense of 'somehow I knew this'. This was a total mind fuck in the best sense possible. Lots to learn and experience ahead. Thank you for this.
It is a real honour to listen to Don. He is truly one in a million.
Yes!! And he's so brave! No fear about "what will the others say/ write/ think"!! And that issue has stopped alot of brilliant persons. Thanks for such an interesting Video! 🙏👍
This is one example what Hoffman is talking about. The main optic nerve passes through the retina, creating a small area that does not contain any light-sensitive cells called "rods" and "cones." Because of this, there is a corresponding blind spot in our visual field. However, our brain is able to fill in this blind spot using information from the surrounding areas of the visual field, creating a seamless visual experience.
Listening to this for the third time!
Sit in complete silence and abandon all reason.♥️
What are your thoughts on the cern machine?
Ha. Like George Castanza on Seinfeld where he discovered that he became tremendously successful when he always did the complete opposite of everything he took for good sense.
Another great show. Thank you.
What Mr. Hoffman describes, trying to see beyond our “headset,” is Plato's Allegory of the Cave. It is unlikely Plato used the math Hoffman uses, so there is another way to get out. Plato described our cave well. Except there are no chains.
It's great to hear that Donald mentions Eckhart Tolle, since Tolle is one of the few persons (still possessing a headset), who can teach us to put down this headset temporarily while still living and breathing and enjoy pure being (instead of requiring joy and attention for particular reasons of your physical representation). The basis of fear and agony in life is identification and clinging to the illusion of constant personalities, beliefs, dogmas or paradigms. You don´t need to understand life to enjoy it, you have to learn to accept unconditional being without reason or specific desire. Or as Joe Dispenza would say it: You have to learn to become no one to be able to be someone!
So many people talk about his interrupting the guests but I appreciate it. He stops them and asks good questions and/or breaks down the point they just made into something more digestible.
Always great guests and interesting topics and additional ways to think of the topics with fantastic audience comments. Thank you much!
Thanks for asking him to keep it simple 🥰 this is so interesting but I’m having a hard time wrapping my head around all this!
In dreams you can become aware of having experienced a different personal history. And it feels as familiar and convincing as our usual personal history.
Re - When Don talks about continuation of consciousness and personal identity..
When I had my first philosophy classes back in college , I heard for the first time the word "metaphysics” . And the teacher just said to us , it’s the science of causes and effects . And I was amazed at how there’s was people in this world that studies things that sounds so complex but so simple at the same time . Now 10 years later I start to read about hermeticism and it just blows my mind how everything is connected .
Yeah I was literally thinking when he said it's not possible to perceive reality (happens around the 17:00 mark) in our current form I got a strong soul resonance. I was thinking to myself how through meditation you learn to disconnect from your "VR headset" built by nature and really take a peek inward, past the veil, for some truly intense experiences. So like I could just imagine Tom's soul looking at him as a 6d, 10d, whatever-d construct and resonating with his 3d self on a very powerful level as this fundamental truth clicked for him. I feel like this whole talk was Tom just realizing so many things his soul must be aware of all along given it's higher dimensional structure.
Not only that but nothing is dead in that everything is vibrating. It only appears to be still.
This is another great intvu with Donald. I could watch and listen to him all day. However even his explanation “of the true structure of the world” is way too simplistic and I believe just scratches the surface. More to come!
I had an spiritual awakening 5 years ago. Since then it has been a whole new travel in this life I have. It has been amazing and also terrible at times. I am still moving in this new awareness. Donald Hoffman has provided this... skeleton/backbone for what I am seeking. Sometimes my mind wants proof that the spirituality is founded on.. something that is accountable..? Donald helps me to move forward in that discouvered plain because he gives me a sence of truth. Yeah. Thank you so much for stepping forward mister Hoffman and being part of my quest. Thank YOU!!!
If you did not want proof, you would swollow anything if it's presented in an adecuated way which you can identify with. Try meditation 🎉🎉
Amazing discussion.
Awesome job, Tom, for dealing with such an encompassing and empathetic debate... and ofc inviting such great guests
Keep it up !
Man, what a blown minding video. This video has me questioning a lot more than my mind first could imagine. Great job, Tom, this has to be by far my favorite video. I did not want it to end, haha.
Watch Curt Jaimungal's 4 hr interview of Bernardo Kastrup
OMG, THIS CONVERSATION WAS SO INSIGHTFUL FOR ME :)
One of the most interesting conversations I have ever listened to. This discussion is bridging some of the gaps between science and religion. I always new that science will only take us full circle back to God. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Inner monologue: this is how I view this world and life; you come into this world curious and learning, so the first topics are who are you and who is your support network, so self identification then outer identification, second you learn what you are capable of and expand on those subjects then you keep adding or subtracting (depending on your focus and evolution) then you find out that every decision you make has a expression and a reaction, both yours and everyone else's, also ripples of consequence into the reality you are in (depending on what you do and how you do it) so then you think to yourself "hmmmm, I wonder what so and so would say, or do, or how would they act and react to this?" Then you do it or say it and set it in motion then you wait to see what happens, the polarity comes from good reactions or bad reactions, AKA favorable or not favorable, so you are learning in a way what is considered the natural rhythms as well as recording what to do and what not to do and different ways to go about and then self awareness and expansion.
I wonder if he knows about the admin-recoding of reality through meditation, intention drawing and manifestion.
The whole talk was absolutely amazing but the last 15 minutes were even more epic!
I’ve been thinking about this a lot. I feel like I’m almost in a dream I’m living in a projection of what is not true reality.
True, the universe is a projection of your mind. You get to decide whether you would like to process heaven or hell haha
If Reality is an illusion, then Illusion is a reality.
Too much weed dude. 🪴
@SkySartix for some people and their "Alternative Facts" it's simply what they say that is "true" - which is obviously self-deception. The fact is that the "illusion" is still Real, because outside of that illusion there is nothing you can comprehend. It's like the difference between Zero and Oblivion. Zero exists as an arbitrary placeholder (an illusion) - yet Oblivion is impossible. Therefore, by analogy, "True Reality" (like Oblivion) is also impossible. Try studying the Vedic Tetralemma and you will begin to understand.
I love love love this conversation! On so many levels. I so appreciate the ‘realness’ of it, even though it’s not. 😁 seriously, we need more of Mr. Hoffman. He is great with the layman.
The maths is real that's the underlying truth and reality being hinted at.
I agree with Donald Hoffmann 💯 percent. I came to the understanding that no matter how far humans dig and how many equations we crunch and how much we look behind the curtain, reality will always expand to forever keep us questioning. We can never ever know God. Because to know the creator (whatever that may be) is to become the creator and that’s impossible.
Love this episode
Next one, make it 5 hours and I'll watch this is truly next level
Great interview. However, UA-cam is placing an INSANE amount of ads
What ads? You shouldn't have any ads.
What a great interview. Love hearing Hoffman talk.
Except Tom doesn't allow Donald to speak. Tom interviews himself.
❤ in some ways. Yes, I do believe that we live in the matrix. It’s all about the perception. Our mind is our greatest asset if we allow us to see it that way. Thank you so much for the interview! I learned a lot.❤
Very deep conversation ... I was feeling strange after watching it so I went to look in the mirror and all I saw were headlights shining in my eyes ... when I squinted I could make out a deer staring back at me ... Haha! Great talk! Quite interesting.
Thanks Tom for slowing down Donald for asking these questions to make his points easier to understand.
I've been thinking deeply about this this week.
This is ON POINT! Thank you Tom for exploring subjects that matter and expand our collective understanding.
In what way is it on point?
Great interview, Tom. You always know what to ask in order to clarify or define.
I love listening to Mr. Hoffman. Fascinating as always.
We are lucky that Tom isn’t that bright. He can ask the questions that allow Mr Hoffman to break it down in simpler terms.
@@rogerc23 I think he is asking those questions on our behalf.
This is by far my favorite show you've had so far! THANK YOU!
❤ Absolutely love what you're saying. I watched you once before. Absolutely fascinating. It is so easy to understand life. Now I get it so easy every time I turn around. I realize that it is all so easy to understand it life now. Life is so easy now that it's just thank you so much knowing that makes life. I can't even tell you how much I thank you for all. Thit is so easy to understand my life. Now. That's all I can say it all makes sense. This one lecture is somehow as a Native American. Would say that you are a fascinating man who makes sense and makes the world sensible, thank you again
What blows my mind is every complex design has an architect, so how genius is our creator to create such a vast, dense, ridiculously complex universe with a practically infinite amount of variation in all topics?!?? I mean it’s a miracle alone that SOMEHOW we dan have an infinite number of different human faces and fingerprints not to mention a practically infinite number of different planets and who knows what else in this incredible universe!!!
A complex design doesn't guarantee a creator.
@@ajwright85 The chances are much higher though considering everything we know in life that has a complex design has a creator. It would just be chaos without one. I find it interesting that despite what I said about every complex design should have an architect, you still seem more skeptical than not OF a creator despite videos like this which demonstrate that life has such intelligent design! And how could there not be a creator if the BEST MINDS of every generation can’t figure out life FULLY?!?? And when they do figure out one aspect of life, the system they figured out has a system in place that makes absolute sense, so it’s not chaos. It’s intelligent design!!! Using common sense, I don’t think such intelligent design could be without a creator that bests even the best minds of today!!! If nothing created the universe, there wouldn’t be order, there would be chaos! Systems don’t come together all by themselves without a blueprint put in place FIRST!!!
@@ajwright85 war, disease, famine, slavery, torture, Ebola, heroin, nuclear weapons, skin cancer, all hail the creator!
@@Mr.Honest247 It's mind, mind is the creator of all things. Because all things lie inside this one mind at large.
@@Mr.Honest247 chaos & order, they both remain the same & change in space & over time. Patterns & cycles of constant change, constant chaos & constant order arising from chaos & constantly changing order seem to be the ultimate paradox of existence & embedded in consciousness.
Intelligent design exists as much as passive innovation & unintelligent design. Is antibiotic resistance in bacteria the result of intelligent adaptation to drugs intelligently designed? Are the side effects of drugs intelligent design or unintelligent flaws in design or is there no seperation possible in a universe where chaos & order, design & destruction coexist & can never be separated?
Fascinating universe we find our consciousness in, fascinating topics & who really knows if light is pure energy or if it is simply a waste product of dark matter?!?
I tried explaining this to my brother in 2010 and he thought I was an idiot. This is rad. Thank you guys.
And you are in a non-insulting way.
This theory, he said a few times, came out in 2013 are you sure you tried explaining it to your brother in 2010?
@@avaldez13 I didnt say I regurgitated the guys story my dude. You don't have to be a scientist to think about things.
It is either that the reality is way too complicated for us to recognize and understand, OR our physical setup is simply NOT designed for the purpose to do so. Considering that we might be just a vehicle for the germs to move around and travel significant distances and we were historically enhanced beyond that purpose and we should not even be concious enough beings aware of this design constraint, this whole concept maybe quite close to reality - which means that reality may not be complex, it is just not for us to understand.
Watching this what I understand anything and everything is possible nothing is right or wrong so just live your life.
For me, this insight points to our existence as having an intended purpose that is specific for mankind.
Just like in my artwork, there is layer upon layer of images stacked on top of each other to form different perceptions and different angles, that depth of volume could pretty much go in indefinitely as long as I don't go outside the surface area or canvas/paper.
And what part of evolution would push a human to produce artwork?
We have the impulse to create. Everyone does in their own way
Yes we do and it is all stacked up against us from birth.
Unless your parents give you books to read from early childhood, you’re fucked until you stumble upon a friend or a UA-cam video to teach you about a different mindset and what the other side looks like and that it even exists.
Stay strong people
I wish I could like this video a 1000 times. So wonderful to have research back up my spiritual believes. Thanks for this, I had goose bumps in the end
Is it important to be better than someone. Yes, then it is your job to bring them up to your knowledge. Thank you for doing that. Don.
It blows my mind that we can have deep discussions like this, and the next video suggested to me is how tens of thousands of people believe the earth is flat.
What a fascinating and interesting conversation. I love this stuff. Surprisingly I've never heard of this channel.
I think we could go with less adds while watching. Twenty minutes in and there’s been six. You make great stuff. I understand monetizing but It be would nice to be able to watch with less interruptions.
Lol seriously. Was thinking this exact same thing.
Brother you are so neurotic, but I think that this is where great intelligence is birthed from. Donald, great interview, you had the wisdom and the insight to unwrap the questions and deliver very informative information. Great dialogue from both of you, and thank-you Tom for asking the questions that made this very critical information digestible. I to have spent several years trying to unwrap this wonderful gift, today I am a little closer...namaste
This is the best video I've ever seen with regards to marrying physics with meta physics. Hats off. Bravo!
Way too many ads. I used to love this channel because I could listen to inspiring interviews without taking my phone out and pressing skip while gardening, housework or skateboarding with my dog. But now this channel causes anxiety in my heart due to all the interruptions. Too bad. I’d love to share this and all the great info.
UA-cam premium is well worth the monthly subscription cost. Not only can you enjoy any video without another ad ever interrupting it again. As well you do not need to keep your screen on or even on UA-cam while a video plays. Just wanted to share 😊
When you experience something outside the matrix its feels 100x more blissful ,better and more 'real' than anything on material plane. You can also learn to manipulate your personal layer of matrix and experience a more pleasant reality.
How does one experience that?
@@akkulluwilliams4689 Spontaneous through extreme circumstance or spiritual practice
@@akkulluwilliams4689 smoke meth
You discovered religion a 100 years after it died men. A little late id say.
@@arete7884 i Would like to talk about that and what is the play of symmetries
Very very nice and interesting.... A view from another prospective.....
When I look out into space, and I mentally see all of those stars, all of those nebulae... What I see is the transfer of matter and energy taking place everywhere I look.... The same process is happening right down here on Earth, whether it be the trees, a bug, or you and me...
This energy, this consciousness, is in everything... and everything seems to be consistently recycling....
In other words, tree consciousness, bug consciousness, dog, cat, and/or fish consciousness, human consciousness.... then to tie it all together, because we are all connected, Universe consciousness.
It seems kind of bizarre, but I believe that this is fact, and this is the truth of our existence.
This energy... whatever conscious form it takes all depends on this creation and the process between the transfer of matter and energy...
It's like examining your own work and then realizing all of a sudden the answers hit you squarely in the face and you immediately recognize it for what it really is and you finally get it...
Energy is consciousness.... and it’s everywhere....
Have a good day and clear skies everyone.... and wherever you are standing on this planet go safely my friends.
Some answers and questions can be discussed further once ‘quantumania’ premiers. Let’s revisit this Interview afterwards.
I love trying to understand all this. I think answers will always lead to other questions. It just goes on infinity. Fascinating to attempt, for me, to understand!
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1:17:37 *I will enjoy investigating, exploring, experimenting, studying, researching, & learning FOREVER! in a paradise here on Earth!*
*Ecclesiastes 3: 11 He has made everything beautiful in its time. He has even put eternity in their heart; yet mankind will never find out the work that the true God has made from start to finish.*
Essentially we think we gain understanding of our verse by looking through a limited lens with limited understanding of what the lens is, and eventually we will see enough through the lens that we can understand that we have yet to open our eyes to begin with. I like what Donald said about space/time. I have been thinking about space time as though it's a window with a limited view. If we can redefine consciousness to better understand the reality beyond our limited space time window then we could better understand how immediate awareness effects the scope of said window, allowing us to open the window or at least remove a filter.
The last 15 minutes blew my mind & emotions ❤️❤️❤️
My theory is that we 're simply aware that we're aware, contrary to animals and other living organisms, so it FEELS like we're in a simulation.
Also, it's important to note, that our brains process ~11 million bits per second, so in order for us to function efficiently, we need to filter out what most essential. For example, catching a ball on time without being distracted by every little detail around us. In other words, If anyone is "hiding" a deeper reality from us, it's our own selves, for our own good 💡
i like that
You’re comment made me feel so much better! I agree. Rather than saying our experience is “fake”, there has to be a purpose behind this function of viewing only what we need to view. We also have other abilities that are non tangible and in some cases unexplainable as of yet with concrete proof. We are so much more than meets the eye, but not in a way that diminishes purpose or our experience.
@@MKLgtag 100% 🙏
This is extremely interesting and would love to understand the breakdown more in simple terms. ❤❤❤
you were never born, never had parents, dont have a job, body or life, its all a dream and what you think life is, is simply imagination
From a die hard atheist as I can describe myself for 8 years, I guess something brought me to watch this and at the same time connect similarities to some nde experiences I watched. Plus so many signs I got over time and I connect them now in a very perfect way. 8 years ago when I left religion I left it because I didn’t buy the story of religion and I didn’t buy any story to be honest, I still don’t . Because we are in a classroom not courtroom as most religions make u feel. Althu each religion has its own perspective of god which is correct sometimes but it’s not the same as any believer can expect. There’s for sure a reality to be exposed when we die, but we shouldn’t fear death because there are two options only , one there is this peaceful limitless happiness reality waiting for us which I feel, and the second option is just we will vanish which means no sensation. In both possibilities we are good. Lately I’m feeling different , I’m treating people differently, I’m taking care of so many things I missed out before. Now I can relate with feeling I had during doing shrooms when I was an atheist, I knew this is not a brain function alone. We existed then we are loved nothing more but we in these limited bodies and brains are struggling in this life from fear and ego. Our first trauma as humans is death, once we overcome it we will learn to love and care for each other
We are in a matrix, and the second life is the real life. We are here on Earth to prepare for that life. What you do here determines the way you will live there. Read the Bible, and it makes perfect sense.
Absolutely right. Space and time were never fundamental. With the knowledge of a known multi dimensions existence, we knows that there are already in formless consciousness. Imagine what can we think and imagine can become reality! We are here like a kindergarten schools learning very basic of imaginary to be mastered in the higher realms of form and formless to manifest reality in our eons universe experiences minds!
All is Mind.
Despite providing more than enough for any lifetime, this reality will never satisfy those who always want more.
1:31:12 I agree with him. Conscious is outside of space-time..
and we call that god
Tom, this is an excellent conversation with Dr. Hoffman. I’ve seen interviewers sit down to talk with him only to realize they are in no way prepared to ask this man questions or to engage in a conversation about the topics at hand. Well done, your questions are excellent & as one of those working my through The Case Against Reality, I appreciate that you’ve done your homework. Thank you.
Fascinating conversation. I choose to quiet the mind and let the universe unfold. I find it is in the silence that the answers await. Also a ton less math lol - the science has been changing / evolving for 100+ years. Silence never changes. Best wishes on your journeys !
A dry ease board would have been amazing for this explanation
When he talked about the chess chunk, that really describes my thinking about what consciousness is.... it's a pattern of thought... like a chunk or an algorithm. The process is the same regardless of the subject. You aren't what or why you think but how you think.
Or you haven't yet put down thinking entirely, and lived in conscienceness of no thinking. You are not your thoughts. Identity is not in thought.
Tom! Please get Jason Breshears aka Archaix on your show to talk about the simulation and the Phoenix event! I really want to see how you process his information and it would be good for your audience too. :)
Totally agree!
Thank you so much❤️. You are so Generous with your Readings. Sending so much Love and Light to You💖💕💖
Very Good Work!!!