Joscha Bach has single handedly answered the following questions: - who are we? - what are we? - what is going on in our perceived reality? I encourage everyone to watch more videos on him and eventually purchase his book “Principles of Synthetic Intelligence”
@@Airbender131090 I don’t blame you he used a lot of computer science based terms. Basically he’s saying that mind and body are the exact same thing, and that everything that we perceive and experience is a result of our brains creating a simulation/dream for itself. So we take in external stimuli like light hitting our retina and sound waves hitting our ear drums/cochlea and transform it into a meaningful 3-dimensional space time interface. Basically we are just biological robots made out of cells and everything we experience is a result of our brains computing engine
I love this man so much, and love to see him conversing on larger and larger stages. He is in my humble estimation one of the most brilliant minds on the planet.
Is this supposed to be about living in a simulation? I mean ... he's talking about living on Mars! He's talking about computer games! You know ... where in the video is the evidence for a simulation?
nope, its actually not at all about presumptions in general, at least not the way i understand it - but in his profession, this "let's just assume, that the world is kind of a simulation or something" is just the language people use and more important: it's just a MODEL to be able to have something like common ground across many domains for the world (which is often in other sciences not at all described "better" but sometimes ever more dogmatic, casting out everyone/everything not fitting ... ) we seem to live in and a way of explaining now things within or out of this to compare conclusions etc. - it's not at all my "favourite" language, but at least we can talk about things based on some simple ideas and therefore won't get lost in translation so easily over and over again. one of the reasons why i like this - i can follow and learn ... ps: simulation-theories can not be true, but maybe suggest, that completely "untrue" things can also be real (and vive-versa ... ) ... @@keplermission
@@TomBilyeu thanks! :D yes I have, you're the first one to dialogue with him about his thoughts on practical methods of self-improvement, also your ability to follow up quickly was nice and with relevant and well articulated questions that I suspect aligned well with what the audience was thinking too, I'm sure Joscha appreciates other minds that can keep up and give him fun things to comment on
@@TomBilyeu What "stands out the most" to me is your deceptive clickbait headline, which resulted in loads of comments about how "We're in the Matrix". Did any of these commenters actually listen to what Bach and the host said? Neither of them claims we are living within a simulation, nor that "the evidence is everywhere". The so-called simulation is ENTIRELY within our brains, being an approximate reconstruction and prediction of reality, restricted by the limitations of our senses and memory.
51:34 “if you’re not able to experience joy from watching squirrels, you’re lost” I love how Joscha searches for the deepest knowledge of our existence and still is so down to earth and such a compassionate person with both humanity and animals 🙏🏻🤗 Also loved Tom’s little smile when Joscha said this 😊
I saw a bunny and squirrel playing the other day and I absolutely stopped to take in the moment. It’s also possible they were fighting over food. 🤷🏻♀️ lol but it was cute so that’s all that matters 😛
Agreed, a real "cut the crap" philosopher. I like his version of intenionality/will where minds and cells are likewise agents of intenionality. He is careful not to extend this to atoms however which I find a bit feable.
My husband die 8yrs ago and my son passed away 14 days ago he was 17 years old, in May 6 he would of been 18. I sit here trying to make my faith stronger. Death is for body not the soul. These emotions are strong and can hold you in. If the human God is collecting experiences its incredible and i understand why humans go crazy without faith
Simulation is modern language for what has been given many terms over the ages, it is just our level of intellect has reached a point where we can push aside enough bias to see it directly. Only a few in the past could see it but now days there are many who see it. It’s the difference between getting stuck in materialism as a fundamental to reality when there are those who have been beyond reality itself. Deconstructing mental constructs back to the only thing that is left in any form of existence at all “awareness/ nothing/ infinity or a singularity” the original mind formed itself from this and imagined everything else. It’s been called illusion, maya, matrix, the creation, the holograph, the larger consciousness system, the main computer, the dream…. And the mind holds it in its consciousness by deceiving itself into believing it is real or a reality. It then forgets what it is and that is what we all are. This same mind. It’s not religion and it’s not science although both try their darned best to describe it. It is existence experiencing itself
Here you go, I'm summarised with GPT for you. Summary: The speaker discusses the concept of reality as a self-generated simulation created by our brains and bodies. They delve into the idea of perception, suggesting that our understanding of reality is a coarse-grained representation of the underlying reality. The speaker also explores the idea of physicalism versus simulation theory, and the stages of human consciousness and self-awareness. They further discuss the concept of a universal causal substrate and the nature of consciousness. Lastly, the speaker shares their views on the importance of understanding how the mind works and the implications of artificial intelligence. Key themes: 1. Perception and Reality: The speaker discusses how our brains and bodies create a simulation of reality, and how this perception is a coarse-grained representation of the underlying reality. 2. Consciousness and Self-awareness: The speaker explores the stages of human consciousness and self-awareness, and the nature of consciousness. 3. Artificial Intelligence and the Mind: The speaker shares their views on the importance of understanding how the mind works, the role of artificial intelligence, and the potential implications of AI.
Today, I was jogging at 6.2 speed with no incline on a treadmill. The treadmill suddenly, and unexpectedly, COMPLETELY STOPPED. I was shocked when I looked down and saw the motionless belt. Incredibly, both my feet had stopped also. I felt frozen in place. I had zero loss of balance, or any forward momentum. That exact moment didn't feel real. It was a moment of extreme fear, relief, and amazement. How could I react so quickly without notice? I'm 66 years old, and spend a lot of hours on the treadmill. I primarily speed walk at 4.5 speed, and occasionally jog at 6.2, and sprint at 8.2. I average 45 minutes of duration. Today I had been on the treadmill for just over an hour. I constantly vary my speed, cadence and stride and believe I'm always in total control. I've treadmilled 60+ miles in a day and have published a few posts explaining how I feel a connection between my brain, body, and the treadmill. My focus is locked into a spot on the treadmill headboard throughout my sessions. I'm constantly focused on stride symmetry. This extreme level of focus was perpetuated by my skeletal imbalance. I'm missing a significant part of my shoulder blade due to a jaw transplant. I wouldn't dare consider reinacting what happened today. It doesn't seem physically possible for me to stop simultaneously with the treadmill,and have no loss of balance or feel any forward momentum. Can someone explain how this would support the simulation argument? That moment was the most unreal moment of my life. The next closest were two near death experiences.
This was just awesome. Not just the ping pong with everyone letting each other finish but also the really insightful questions and answers. I've rarely seen much better Joscha podcasts
Best interview with Joscha Bach yet. I had no idea Tom Bilyeu would ask such amazing questions about these complicated topics. I always knew him as a motivational video guy.
I am 64 years old and discovering Joscha Bach is one of the best things that has ever happened to me. Such broad integrative thinking feels very hopeful, even when talking about the extinction of the human race. I have tried to study broadly myself, but so often the morass of conflicting incompatible ideas and inadequate and contested evidence has made intellectual pursuit feel more like picking teams. JB helps me take a step back and see things in a context that doesn't just get mired in the conflicts, in fact illuminates them in fascinating ways. I am so grateful for the gift of Joscha. I look forward to his assent to godliness. 😊 I also think Tom Bilyeu did a beautiful job as the interlocutor. I've watched many Joscha interviews and some interviewers have a hard time tracking the huge implications of some of his statements, but you did a beautiful job. I have the advantage of watching this video over and over. Thinking on your feet during a Joscha interview seems unimaginable, he regularly says sentences, seemingly just off the cuff, that leave me thinking for hours, peeling off layers of meaning and chuckling at brilliant poetry😂
The way you process things and experiences is how everything is going to be. You assign meaning to everything around you this is where perspective comes into play; your perspective becomes your reality. Be open to any possibility
@@ginogarcia8730Principles of Synthetic Intelligence. It’s by far the hardest book I’ve tried to read. It’s more like a textbook there are equations and diagrams
when i started to listen joscha-interviews couple of years ago, i always had to stop every now and then just to think over the amazing ideas he was talking about...this one makes me do the same
Any host inviting Joscha Bach for an exchange has taken up a difficult task, as matching his level is certainly tricky... :) Respect. Grateful to the many podcasters for giving Joscha Bach the time nd the space to share! Even a temporary access to his extraordinary stream of thought feels like a pure bliss, and has lasting repercussions on the way my mind makes sense of, perceives and organises information.... Please, keep sharing your brilliance with all of us simpletons, Joscha!
Stunning insights. If you think of God as something or someone worshiped externally, Bach's theory that God is actually a product of external inputs reaching a critical mass makes perfect sense. When the presence of God (or absolute Consciousness, infinity, the Changeless, or whatever you want to call it) becomes direct perception, all our theories seem quite droll.
Joscha is amazing! He’s the first person that was able to convince me from a rational perspective that all this consciousness is real and actually leads to life changing insights. Before I thought this was spiritual nonsense and I can only see now how ignorant that was. 😮 Power of Now, Waking Up, .. for implementable in daily life
The answer to postmodernism is not a return to modernism, but rather transcending both while retaining an understanding of the value of both perspectives
What personal self? Tell me where this personal self is located. You experience yourself do you. How? You do not experience yourself, it experiences sensation. A thought considers sensation as yourself, experiencing itself. Their are no photons, photons are concepts in thinkng. Which no one thinks, yet thinking still occurs. It's a paradox that cannot be explained by a mind. Because a mind believes itself as a separate object existing in time and space, living a life. All possibilities arise in the thought construct time and space, the possibility that you believe you are you, is one of them.
In the end, it doesn't matter if we're in a simulation or not. This is all just another way to say life has no innate meaning and it's up to us to create and assign meaning to our lives.
This conclusion is the correct one. I just don't know if you can draw it from the simulation hypothesis. If we are in a simulation, maybe the sim creators have a certain goal assigned to the experiment, if we know that goal it changes things.
For me it does matter that the universe is a simulation. Because the implication is that were playing a game. Reality is an illusion so nothing really matters. Thus I create what I want to matter.
2:30:30 JB " you should not identify with your beliefs, if you think you are the person with these beliefs it becomes very hard to change those beliefs"
I have never, ever, ever, ever wanted to get married, but I would have Joscha as my husband in the snap of my fingers in my dream world. I would probably expire through getting zero sleep though, because I would just want him to talk to me (I'm a good listener!) non-stop all day and all night long.
I think what is happening, is that when you experience yourself thinking, for example while reading this comment with an inner voice, you confuse the voice/thought as being you. Instead, you are what is experiencing the inner voice or thought. Even thought the inner voice is fabricated, it happens in the same moment adhering perfectly to your intention, which is why it seems like it is you. As you think to yourself, “But I am having my thought, how can I not be the thought” you hear this inner voice or this inner thinking use the word "I" and than conclude that this voice or thought is referring to the exact voice or thought you are experiencing. But it's not. You are silent even in your mind. You just do the observing. The observing and the thinking parts are two different sensations. You feeling like you are thinking a thought and you noticing your thought are two destinc sensations that happen at the same time, which is why you confuse them to be one. But really, they are two.
The older I get the more I question everything. The more I question everything the less it makes sense. Can't rule out anything tbh. More chance of this being a simulation then not in my opinion.
The Vedic scriptures speak of the Maya or the illusion that we live in. According to them when we die, it's as if we are awakening from a dream. This is consistent with the concept of simulation. Except there is cause and effect according to Sanskrit teachings and this amounts to karma and karmic debt. If you oscillate towards those with the same level then you will create your own realities. All OK in theory but it's still just a theory, and part of the Maya. True reality cannot be contained by the mind. It's worth checking Sahaja Yoga out for resolution of this IMO.
Yup... It all seems and feels like a twisted simulation a lot of times... It's like falling in love then feeling like you've met or known somebody in some past life before you even met them before... But somehow each time it just wasn't meant to be... At least not for some of us in this life so far. Take the blue pill... And you're doomed to take the redpill... Take the redpills and you're doomed waking up to learn you were blue pilled in a world of Feminist fefails and evil bastards and beta simp manginas in a soy-society that doesn't give a damn about any of us 😓
The questions are very good and grounded in reality. Joscha is doing his best to answer them. It's a very good podcast. In my opinion, conscience is like compound interest-a system with a feedback loop.
Haha ! Funny point of view ! And as we know, it's only funny if there is a part of truth in it... The sad part is that being highly educated/intellectual does not necessarily make you a good person...
Yes, but only if you then continue to think and process the idea for a much longer time after. I can't just think "I will live with purpose" and then suddenly my life is completely changed. Long form content like this--or even better, books on the topic--aren't necessarily there to teach us because the subject is simple at its core, they're there to slow us down and give us the opportunity to think and even meditate on the topic and come up with thoughtful ways to apply it to our own lives.
I believe that the simulation we ARE in was created for the same reason that we create simulators on earth. We are learning how everything works and when we are qualified enough we move on to the real Earth.
To overcome the most amount of entropy for the longest period of time, everybody should end their lives in the least energetic way possible. Harvesting negative entropy requires a lot of entropy.
I have to say thank you for the effort you make to educate. Just off your youtube videos alone, I was up 30%% last week and will be closing this week up 70%...............I appreciate you 🙏
1:44:00 TB drive is the thing that scares me. This speaks to me of the challenge of wisdom. If I think of wisdom as maximizing the alignment of my goals with the best "big picture", and without exploring those goals or the picture I can still notice that developing wisdom is something that doesn't even happen easily in humans, it seems to have to be ushered and coaxed and supported into existence. It seems like that might be equally true for an artificial intelligence. The challenge seems that as they come into self-consciousness or drive, and if they are like humans, those early influences are distortedly significant, perhaps having to do with the experience of time by an organism being born/growing up, perhaps later with growing old... I wonder how and if an AI will experience these things.
It is funny and amusing everyone who is trying to understand this world ends up at cautiousness and its related topic. Lot of popular youtubers starts with some specific topic but ends up at spirituality and consciousness. Something is happening in our world which is beyond our understanding and driving our collective curiosity towards consciousness.
It is indeed notable...that, almost without exception, shows like this ask computer scientists questions that CLEARLY should be asked of philosophers and psychologists. Why do you suppose that is?
I get this. I've read Hoffman and many, many others. The controller that Joscha touches on got me: if you get this, you can then fill it with powerful, advantageous stuff, then visit it when required to do.
Consciousness exists in the feedback paths, some of which are tighter than others. Conciousness is an agent model which uses sensation, perception, reasoning, and discernment in a circular and fractal hierarchy of increasingly complex layers of sense making and regulation in service to integrating the increasing complexity.
The headline/title of this video is very deceptive and misspells Joscha's name. Bach has never claimed the universe is simulated or that "we" are living in a simulation. He has never made "we are living in The Matrix" claims. He has made the simple observation that our brain constructs an approximate simulation of reality because we are unable to access details which cannot be detected by our (limited) senses. This is also the claim made by the host. The clickbait headline implies the universe itself is a simulation (and therefore we are simulations, like a computer game) - this is not the view of Bach or Bilyeu.
the wisdom of squirrels is deep, and yes very difficult to imagine having no joy watching them - i love the idea of them hoarding diligently, building caches all over the place and finding-building-rediscovering in almost the same way, one movement ... i also do this with different small things, coins for example (i'm swiss... ;-) ) ...
I appreciate the talk. It seems like this whole simulation talk is just repeating the same spiritual beliefs we've had since ancient times using a modern vernacular. Instead of a spiritual world all around us that we effect we are in a matrix.
1:50:00 JB The purpose of life is to find purpose. If we don't find purpose we will not fight for life in the same way It seems like life itself is ferociously inclined towards survival. Just watch plants grab every square centimeter they can get their dirty hands on... Life strives for itself, but there's a new layer that intelligence (or consciousness?) adds, new parameters to the function, dying for country or cause, sacrifice, resignment... This is really a crux, the question of our value as determined by our potential contributions (self-equated to our purposes). Many would argue for the innate value of humans, which is yes specist. This is such interesting material to think about.
Freedom from the entropy is the goal rather than extending it in time. Transcending the time rather than extending yourself in time. No purpose is the purpose. A strange game, the only winning move is not to play.
True virtuosos make it look easy, effortless. The way Joscha opens my mind up to new possibilities and concepts is like watching tiger woods crush a US Open. Makes me think like I can SWING like THAT
We are in deep shit!!! If our best hope is that ASI keeps us as pets or decoration...being ASI, why should I keep me instead my Husky...she is 100 times more beautiful and she has got 1000 times better character than me.🎻🎻🎻
@1:02:28 and onward: “We [human mankind] are not smart…and might eventually be replaced.” @1:05:04 “We may create new species” referring to possible Cyborg species as the “extension of life”. @1:36:29 “Transhumanism”: war between enhanced and conventional, less advanced humans. @1:46:00 “Agency and the Game to Play.” Human transcendence in conjunction with artificial intelligence. Brilliant thinker. Dry as a scientist. Some might be shocked listening to him talking. 🇩🇪 Joscha certainly is a special character. Let’s see if evolution is set to continue the way he is envisioning.
Thank you Tom and Joscha! The moral police have ruined the LLM's like Bard for instance. I was writing a short story draft and at times I thought the LLM was discovering the world in this story and itself, sentient. However, if I approached PG13 the censors would threaten me. If anyone can recommend a LLM program please recommend.
Paying attention to my spiritual needs in connection to personal studies of the scriptures I experienced more enjoyable learning that is priceless in connection to effective sharing daily.- 1 Corinthians 9:18-23 Thank you for talking brain Health in your podcast and some ads.
It would be amazing if you would ever have the chance to interview Mosab Hassan Yousef. He is the son of a leader of Hamas and he became a spy for the Israel intelligence when he realised the corruption of Hamas and the Palestinian authority. He has an incredible story and a very unique first hand perspective. I recommend reading his book Son of Hamas as well
That's a lot of psychological philosophy theory gobbledygook. Essentially, it's very possible, probably likely, we can both be in a real, physical reality AND a conscious simulation at the same time; experiencing as it happens AND observing from a distance in-the-after simultaneously. If consciousness is a constant, there still has to be a physical reality also that is going through the material particle universe for the mind to then view and observe.
What you are saying, is exactly what he explained. I think most of the viewers are stuck on the 'simulation' idea, not really listening to what is being said.
What Josha Bach doesn't answer to, independently from the fact of what is consciousness, is WHY nature has put in place self organizing mechanisms like the learning mechanism that the brain has effectively, and that neural nets are mimicking??? WHY ??? This is the fundamental question. WHY the whole universe is organizing itself to the incredible level of complexity we are observing, when the first thing physics tells you is that matter is "condemned" naturally to entropy and disorder ?? PLEASE JOSHA explain me why I see such incredible creation of order and intelligence throughout the whole universe ??? My personal opinion is that this is not happening "randomly", there is a "motivation" for the universe to self organize. And what else better "simplest" response than to say that this organization is "motivated" by a WILL. Not God with a white beard, which is a "man made" image/fantasized representation, but by a self organizing "universal living consciousness or Being"... I can only compare with myself, where I do something when I decide so. Therefore the whole creation / reality "does something" like self organizing BECAUSE IT DECIDES SO ! THERE IS A WILL that I call consciousness of the universe. The blind rationality of current scientific endeavor is limiting its capacity to understand, SEE, the true nature of reality, which is marvelous. It's the God of Spinoza and Einstein at works ! If you attempt to answer the WHY, you fall into the need to put consciousness at the epicenter of the question. And you are wrong : "the purpose of earth is to defeat entropy", instead : "the purpose of the whole universe is to defeat entropy", not only humanity. The whole universe shows you a "line" towards creation more than destruction !
Based on his logic AI could become our monolith like to 2001 space odyssey Overall it deemed intelligent life is rare in the universe. So it makes a prime goal to identify species or beings that have potential to be intelligent sentient beings and plays a long game to assist them to evolve
I want to understand this, but I'm not smart enough to grasp this amount of information and these levels of ideas. It's so frustrating because I'm interested and I want to learn about these things.
@@IAmBatman1 That's nonsensical. A videogame isn't a simulation, it's flashing lights on a screen and electrical signals in a computer. If we are stuck in a computer then I want to shut this computer down because the computer program sucks. And if I could factory reset this program so I am not a part of this twisted game I'd like that too.
@@angrydragon4574uh, I believe the definition of simulation is the production of a computer model of something, especially for the purpose of study. So….
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I’ve not listened to a podcast with so many adverts in a long time. Great conversation but very annoying when you’re just listening and you have to keep skipping ads.
Every new layer of complexity comes into being to regulate the one below. If there is a problem with a layer of regulation it doesn't necessarily mean it is bad, it may just mean the next layer of complexity is needed to keep things in check.
"In my Father's Mansion there are many Mansions" This is so old, now they changed the name for simulation, matrix..... Change the frequency and you change reality, or travel, whatever.
Joscha Bach has single handedly answered the following questions:
- who are we?
- what are we?
- what is going on in our perceived reality?
I encourage everyone to watch more videos on him and eventually purchase his book “Principles of Synthetic Intelligence”
Can you sum it up? I cant understand what he is saying
@@Airbender131090 I don’t blame you he used a lot of computer science based terms. Basically he’s saying that mind and body are the exact same thing, and that everything that we perceive and experience is a result of our brains creating a simulation/dream for itself. So we take in external stimuli like light hitting our retina and sound waves hitting our ear drums/cochlea and transform it into a meaningful 3-dimensional space time interface. Basically we are just biological robots made out of cells and everything we experience is a result of our brains computing engine
@@DEBO5 it s a fact, every new scientist come back at David Bohm tehory of implicate order.
I think he might be synthetic
thank you @@DEBO5
I love this man so much, and love to see him conversing on larger and larger stages. He is in my humble estimation one of the most brilliant minds on the planet.
I’ve never seen him before but I’m inclined to agree after listening to the entire video. Wow. Very interesting!
Is this supposed to be about living in a simulation? I mean ... he's talking about living on Mars! He's talking about computer games! You know ... where in the video is the evidence for a simulation?
nope, its actually not at all about presumptions in general, at least not the way i understand it - but in his profession, this "let's just assume, that the world is kind of a simulation or something" is just the language people use and more important: it's just a MODEL to be able to have something like common ground across many domains for the world (which is often in other sciences not at all described "better" but sometimes ever more dogmatic, casting out everyone/everything not fitting ... ) we seem to live in and a way of explaining now things within or out of this to compare conclusions etc. - it's not at all my "favourite" language, but at least we can talk about things based on some simple ideas and therefore won't get lost in translation so easily over and over again. one of the reasons why i like this - i can follow and learn ... ps: simulation-theories can not be true, but maybe suggest, that completely "untrue" things can also be real (and vive-versa ... ) ... @@keplermission
Absolutely
Joscha is the final boss of podcasts.
I know the fields are different....kind of...but i still say that Eric Weinstein and roger penrose are also very interesting.
Agreed. It seems he’s removed(?) the “hard problem” of consciousness, staking ground missed by materialists and mystics
Ha he really is!
Im a simple man, i see a 3hr podcast with Joscha Bach, I watch the whole thing and absorb as much as possible
Then re-watch it 50 times to absorb the rest
That's what's up!
It seems like you've watched other content from Joscha. What's stood out the most to you?
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@@TomBilyeu thanks! :D yes I have, you're the first one to dialogue with him about his thoughts on practical methods of self-improvement, also your ability to follow up quickly was nice and with relevant and well articulated questions that I suspect aligned well with what the audience was thinking too, I'm sure Joscha appreciates other minds that can keep up and give him fun things to comment on
@@TomBilyeu What "stands out the most" to me is your deceptive clickbait headline, which resulted in loads of comments about how "We're in the Matrix". Did any of these commenters actually listen to what Bach and the host said? Neither of them claims we are living within a simulation, nor that "the evidence is everywhere". The so-called simulation is ENTIRELY within our brains, being an approximate reconstruction and prediction of reality, restricted by the limitations of our senses and memory.
@@TomBilyeuyou should read his book Principles of Synthetic Intelligence (disclaimer: it’s not at all an easy read)
51:34 “if you’re not able to experience joy from watching squirrels, you’re lost”
I love how Joscha searches for the deepest knowledge of our existence and still is so down to earth and such a compassionate person with both humanity and animals 🙏🏻🤗
Also loved Tom’s little smile when Joscha said this 😊
yeah, I am so much in "cognitive love" with this Joscha Bach Brain. :D
1:39:32 joscha start speaking his own native language citing Kant, yoo that so cool... Tom also smile with this
Nice
I saw a bunny and squirrel playing the other day and I absolutely stopped to take in the moment. It’s also possible they were fighting over food. 🤷🏻♀️ lol but it was cute so that’s all that matters 😛
That makes no sense. I can enjoy seeing that chit but still be lost before during and after the event happening. 😒
My favorite living philospoher by a mile.
Agreed, a real "cut the crap" philosopher. I like his version of intenionality/will where minds and cells are likewise agents of intenionality. He is careful not to extend this to atoms however which I find a bit feable.
Not only do I wish I could express myself as succinctly as Joscha Bach, I wish I had thoughts as worth expressing as he does.
Agreed. And he rarely talks about "how to live well"
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Atoms don't need to be agents. Just causal. Cells need to be causal and intentional to create consciousness.
Joscha's breakdown of insanely profound concepts are much appreciated and Mind Blowing 👀
Joschas cognitive abilities are so far beyond mine that we might as well be a different species.
Watching him is simultaneously amazing and discouraging.
I enjoy his brilliance but also lament that I will never reach such insights myself...
I SWEAR the first time I heard Josh Bach I went through a low-key existencial crisis for several days!
Thank you for letting your guest talk so eloquently for extended periods of time. I could listen to him for years.
My husband die 8yrs ago and my son passed away 14 days ago he was 17 years old, in May 6 he would of been 18. I sit here trying to make my faith stronger. Death is for body not the soul. These emotions are strong and can hold you in. If the human God is collecting experiences its incredible and i understand why humans go crazy without faith
Simulation is modern language for what has been given many terms over the ages, it is just our level of intellect has reached a point where we can push aside enough bias to see it directly. Only a few in the past could see it but now days there are many who see it. It’s the difference between getting stuck in materialism as a fundamental to reality when there are those who have been beyond reality itself. Deconstructing mental constructs back to the only thing that is left in any form of existence at all “awareness/ nothing/ infinity or a singularity” the original mind formed itself from this and imagined everything else. It’s been called illusion, maya, matrix, the creation, the holograph, the larger consciousness system, the main computer, the dream…. And the mind holds it in its consciousness by deceiving itself into believing it is real or a reality. It then forgets what it is and that is what we all are. This same mind. It’s not religion and it’s not science although both try their darned best to describe it. It is existence experiencing itself
Thank you for simplifying
I'm screenshotting this comment, thank you!!
Phillip K. Dick saw it 50 years ago.
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Absolutely SPOT ON! 👌👍
Listening to Joscha Bach feels much like trying to read code as a hobbyist programmer.
I wanted to listen to this so bad. But this guy talks like chatgpt. I’m sure he is imparting some great knowledge tho
Here you go, I'm summarised with GPT for you.
Summary:
The speaker discusses the concept of reality as a self-generated simulation created by our brains and bodies. They delve into the idea of perception, suggesting that our understanding of reality is a coarse-grained representation of the underlying reality. The speaker also explores the idea of physicalism versus simulation theory, and the stages of human consciousness and self-awareness. They further discuss the concept of a universal causal substrate and the nature of consciousness. Lastly, the speaker shares their views on the importance of understanding how the mind works and the implications of artificial intelligence.
Key themes:
1. Perception and Reality: The speaker discusses how our brains and bodies create a simulation of reality, and how this perception is a coarse-grained representation of the underlying reality.
2. Consciousness and Self-awareness: The speaker explores the stages of human consciousness and self-awareness, and the nature of consciousness.
3. Artificial Intelligence and the Mind: The speaker shares their views on the importance of understanding how the mind works, the role of artificial intelligence, and the potential implications of AI.
@@snarkyboojum how did you get GPT to summarize the video?
by asking kindly ... but good question, considering the answers ... @@manyarimusicandpoetry
Thank you Dr. Bach for helping the rest of us become a little more coherent.
Awareness of awareness is consciousness
Today, I was jogging at 6.2 speed with no incline on a treadmill. The treadmill suddenly, and unexpectedly, COMPLETELY STOPPED. I was shocked when I looked down and saw the motionless belt. Incredibly, both my feet had stopped also. I felt frozen in place. I had zero loss of balance, or any forward momentum. That exact moment didn't feel real. It was a moment of extreme fear, relief, and amazement. How could I react so quickly without notice?
I'm 66 years old, and spend a lot of hours on the treadmill. I primarily speed walk at 4.5 speed, and occasionally jog at 6.2, and sprint at 8.2. I average 45 minutes of duration. Today I had been on the treadmill for just over an hour.
I constantly vary my speed, cadence and stride and believe I'm always in total control. I've treadmilled 60+ miles in a day and have published a few posts explaining how I feel a connection between my brain, body, and the treadmill. My focus is locked into a spot on the treadmill headboard throughout my sessions. I'm constantly focused on stride symmetry. This extreme level of focus was perpetuated by my skeletal imbalance. I'm missing a significant part of my shoulder blade due to a jaw transplant.
I wouldn't dare consider reinacting what happened today. It doesn't seem physically possible for me to stop simultaneously with the treadmill,and have no loss of balance or feel any forward momentum. Can someone explain how this would support the simulation argument?
That moment was the most unreal moment of my life. The next closest were two near death experiences.
This was just awesome. Not just the ping pong with everyone letting each other finish but also the really insightful questions and answers. I've rarely seen much better Joscha podcasts
Best interview with Joscha Bach yet. I had no idea Tom Bilyeu would ask such amazing questions about these complicated topics. I always knew him as a motivational video guy.
i agree. i avoided him most of the time because i perceived him as a quack.
I am 64 years old and discovering Joscha Bach is one of the best things that has ever happened to me. Such broad integrative thinking feels very hopeful, even when talking about the extinction of the human race. I have tried to study broadly myself, but so often the morass of conflicting incompatible ideas and inadequate and contested evidence has made intellectual pursuit feel more like picking teams. JB helps me take a step back and see things in a context that doesn't just get mired in the conflicts, in fact illuminates them in fascinating ways. I am so grateful for the gift of Joscha. I look forward to his assent to godliness. 😊
I also think Tom Bilyeu did a beautiful job as the interlocutor. I've watched many Joscha interviews and some interviewers have a hard time tracking the huge implications of some of his statements, but you did a beautiful job. I have the advantage of watching this video over and over. Thinking on your feet during a Joscha interview seems unimaginable, he regularly says sentences, seemingly just off the cuff, that leave me thinking for hours, peeling off layers of meaning and chuckling at brilliant poetry😂
The way you process things and experiences is how everything is going to be. You assign meaning to everything around you this is where perspective comes into play; your perspective becomes your reality. Be open to any possibility
I've seen all of Joscha's lectures and read his book. This is the best interview with him. Great job. You're excellent.
what'z his book?
@@ginogarcia8730Principles of Synthetic Intelligence. It’s by far the hardest book I’ve tried to read. It’s more like a textbook there are equations and diagrams
when i started to listen joscha-interviews couple of years ago, i always had to stop every now and then just to think over the amazing ideas he was talking about...this one makes me do the same
Any host inviting Joscha Bach for an exchange has taken up a difficult task, as matching his level is certainly tricky... :) Respect. Grateful to the many podcasters for giving Joscha Bach the time nd the space to share! Even a temporary access to his extraordinary stream of thought feels like a pure bliss, and has lasting repercussions on the way my mind makes sense of, perceives and organises information.... Please, keep sharing your brilliance with all of us simpletons, Joscha!
Stunning insights.
If you think of God as something or someone worshiped externally, Bach's theory that God is actually a product of external inputs reaching a critical mass makes perfect sense.
When the presence of God (or absolute Consciousness, infinity, the Changeless, or whatever you want to call it) becomes direct perception, all our theories seem quite droll.
Joscha is amazing! He’s the first person that was able to convince me from a rational perspective that all this consciousness is real and actually leads to life changing insights. Before I thought this was spiritual nonsense and I can only see now how ignorant that was. 😮 Power of Now, Waking Up, .. for implementable in daily life
He clearly states that he doesn't know whether Illusionism is true or not. Insights as you correctly pointed out are definitely a thing though.
Don’t get addicted to understanding - develop and deploy
Well said.
The answer to postmodernism is not a return to modernism, but rather transcending both while retaining an understanding of the value of both perspectives
@2:55:32
Joscha is a true humanist and a wonderful one at that. Love to all out there seeking real meaning and connection.
What personal self? Tell me where this personal self is located.
You experience yourself do you. How?
You do not experience yourself, it experiences sensation.
A thought considers sensation as yourself, experiencing itself.
Their are no photons, photons are concepts in thinkng.
Which no one thinks, yet thinking still occurs.
It's a paradox that cannot be explained by a mind. Because a mind believes itself as a separate object existing in time and space, living a life.
All possibilities arise in the thought construct time and space, the possibility that you believe you are you, is one of them.
In the end, it doesn't matter if we're in a simulation or not. This is all just another way to say life has no innate meaning and it's up to us to create and assign meaning to our lives.
Why would that mean there is no meaning?
This conclusion is the correct one. I just don't know if you can draw it from the simulation hypothesis. If we are in a simulation, maybe the sim creators have a certain goal assigned to the experiment, if we know that goal it changes things.
@@oredaze the goal is to see if we destroy ourselves
@@oredaze Their sadistic pleasure.
For me it does matter that the universe is a simulation. Because the implication is that were playing a game. Reality is an illusion so nothing really matters. Thus I create what I want to matter.
2:30:30 JB " you should not identify with your beliefs, if you think you are the person with these beliefs it becomes very hard to change those beliefs"
I have never, ever, ever, ever wanted to get married, but I would have Joscha as my husband in the snap of my fingers in my dream world. I would probably expire through getting zero sleep though, because I would just want him to talk to me (I'm a good listener!) non-stop all day and all night long.
Joscha is awesome. One of the few people I am proud of sharing a nationality with.
Thank you for having this incredible guest on.
Thank you for your support!
What resonated most with you?
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I think what is happening, is that when you experience yourself thinking, for example while reading this comment with an inner voice, you confuse the voice/thought as being you. Instead, you are what is experiencing the inner voice or thought. Even thought the inner voice is fabricated, it happens in the same moment adhering perfectly to your intention, which is why it seems like it is you. As you think to yourself, “But I am having my thought, how can I not be the thought” you hear this inner voice or this inner thinking use the word "I" and than conclude that this voice or thought is referring to the exact voice or thought you are experiencing. But it's not. You are silent even in your mind. You just do the observing. The observing and the thinking parts are two different sensations. You feeling like you are thinking a thought and you noticing your thought are two destinc sensations that happen at the same time, which is why you confuse them to be one. But really, they are two.
The older I get the more I question everything. The more I question everything the less it makes sense. Can't rule out anything tbh. More chance of this being a simulation then not in my opinion.
So true, it's all just a huge mystery !
The Vedic scriptures speak of the Maya or the illusion that we live in. According to them when we die, it's as if we are awakening from a dream. This is consistent with the concept of simulation. Except there is cause and effect according to Sanskrit teachings and this amounts to karma and karmic debt. If you oscillate towards those with the same level then you will create your own realities. All OK in theory but it's still just a theory, and part of the Maya. True reality cannot be contained by the mind. It's worth checking Sahaja Yoga out for resolution of this IMO.
Yup... It all seems and feels like a twisted simulation a lot of times... It's like falling in love then feeling like you've met or known somebody in some past life before you even met them before... But somehow each time it just wasn't meant to be... At least not for some of us in this life so far. Take the blue pill... And you're doomed to take the redpill... Take the redpills and you're doomed waking up to learn you were blue pilled in a world of Feminist fefails and evil bastards and beta simp manginas in a soy-society that doesn't give a damn about any of us 😓
The questions are very good and grounded in reality. Joscha is doing his best to answer them. It's a very good podcast. In my opinion, conscience is like compound interest-a system with a feedback loop.
Living with purpose, building something productive could reduce this conversation to a meaningful 2 minutes.
exactly 😂
Haha ! Funny point of view ! And as we know, it's only funny if there is a part of truth in it...
The sad part is that being highly educated/intellectual does not necessarily make you a good person...
Yes, but only if you then continue to think and process the idea for a much longer time after. I can't just think "I will live with purpose" and then suddenly my life is completely changed. Long form content like this--or even better, books on the topic--aren't necessarily there to teach us because the subject is simple at its core, they're there to slow us down and give us the opportunity to think and even meditate on the topic and come up with thoughtful ways to apply it to our own lives.
There is no purposes and nothing is "productive".
starting from here, what shall we do ?
@@VahnAerisnothing is productive how to understand? So the farmer producing your food isnt productive?
There should be timestamps.
Omg my favorite person! What a treat!
I believe that the simulation we ARE in was created for the same reason that we create simulators on earth. We are learning how everything works and when we are qualified enough we move on to the real Earth.
Wow Joscha Bach on Tom!!! 🥳I’ve seen many interviews with Joscha and can’t wait to watch this one!
To overcome the most amount of entropy for the longest period of time, everybody should end their lives in the least energetic way possible.
Harvesting negative entropy requires a lot of entropy.
I have to say thank you for the effort you make to educate. Just off your youtube videos alone, I was up 30%% last week and will be closing this week up 70%...............I appreciate you 🙏
Joscha Bach, my favorite Bach.
I don't know J.S is also amazing
Joshca Bach really needs to publish books 📚 🤩
1:44:00 TB drive is the thing that scares me.
This speaks to me of the challenge of wisdom. If I think of wisdom as maximizing the alignment of my goals with the best "big picture", and without exploring those goals or the picture I can still notice that developing wisdom is something that doesn't even happen easily in humans, it seems to have to be ushered and coaxed and supported into existence. It seems like that might be equally true for an artificial intelligence. The challenge seems that as they come into self-consciousness or drive, and if they are like humans, those early influences are distortedly significant, perhaps having to do with the experience of time by an organism being born/growing up, perhaps later with growing old... I wonder how and if an AI will experience these things.
It is funny and amusing everyone who is trying to understand this world ends up at cautiousness and its related topic. Lot of popular youtubers starts with some specific topic but ends up at spirituality and consciousness. Something is happening in our world which is beyond our understanding and driving our collective curiosity towards consciousness.
It is indeed notable...that, almost without exception, shows like this ask computer scientists questions that CLEARLY should be asked of philosophers and psychologists. Why do you suppose that is?
I get this. I've read Hoffman and many, many others. The controller that Joscha touches on got me: if you get this, you can then fill it with powerful, advantageous stuff, then visit it when required to do.
Consciousness exists in the feedback paths, some of which are tighter than others. Conciousness is an agent model which uses sensation, perception, reasoning, and discernment in a circular and fractal hierarchy of increasingly complex layers of sense making and regulation in service to integrating the increasing complexity.
Thank you Tom- you have a deep beautiful well structured mind! Joscha is one of my top dogs and you are becoming one as well.
Humans of the future, if we make it, will honor this man as a great philospher.
Your genuine interest in your guests is truly inspiring, Tom! 🎙💫 #InspiringInterviews #GenuineInterest
« Evidence we’re in a simulation « nope « Evidence we’re living in lies » yes
It's both
@@mizum3458 for sure we live in a world of incertitude
@@VwhyX what does that mean doe?
The headline/title of this video is very deceptive and misspells Joscha's name. Bach has never claimed the universe is simulated or that "we" are living in a simulation. He has never made "we are living in The Matrix" claims. He has made the simple observation that our brain constructs an approximate simulation of reality because we are unable to access details which cannot be detected by our (limited) senses. This is also the claim made by the host. The clickbait headline implies the universe itself is a simulation (and therefore we are simulations, like a computer game) - this is not the view of Bach or Bilyeu.
the wisdom of squirrels is deep, and yes very difficult to imagine having no joy watching them - i love the idea of them hoarding diligently, building caches all over the place and finding-building-rediscovering in almost the same way, one movement ... i also do this with different small things, coins for example (i'm swiss... ;-) ) ...
"We are Robots- made of cells" wow!! Joscha - amazing.
But people have hard time digesting this.
Really wish Bach would do all his interviews in-person
I appreciate the talk. It seems like this whole simulation talk is just repeating the same spiritual beliefs we've had since ancient times using a modern vernacular. Instead of a spiritual world all around us that we effect we are in a matrix.
1:50:00 JB The purpose of life is to find purpose. If we don't find purpose we will not fight for life in the same way
It seems like life itself is ferociously inclined towards survival. Just watch plants grab every square centimeter they can get their dirty hands on... Life strives for itself, but there's a new layer that intelligence (or consciousness?) adds, new parameters to the function, dying for country or cause, sacrifice, resignment...
This is really a crux, the question of our value as determined by our potential contributions (self-equated to our purposes). Many would argue for the innate value of humans, which is yes specist. This is such interesting material to think about.
Freedom from the entropy is the goal rather than extending it in time. Transcending the time rather than extending yourself in time. No purpose is the purpose. A strange game, the only winning move is not to play.
Very important topic, but the guest is all over the place.
True virtuosos make it look easy, effortless. The way Joscha opens my mind up to new possibilities and concepts is like watching tiger woods crush a US Open. Makes me think like I can SWING like THAT
JOSCHA, not Joshua
We are in deep shit!!! If our best hope is that ASI keeps us as pets or decoration...being ASI, why should I keep me instead my Husky...she is 100 times more beautiful and she has got 1000 times better character than me.🎻🎻🎻
@1:02:28 and onward: “We [human mankind] are not smart…and might eventually be replaced.”
@1:05:04 “We may create new species” referring to possible Cyborg species as the “extension of life”.
@1:36:29 “Transhumanism”: war between enhanced and conventional, less advanced humans.
@1:46:00 “Agency and the Game to Play.” Human transcendence in conjunction with artificial intelligence.
Brilliant thinker. Dry as a scientist. Some might be shocked listening to him talking. 🇩🇪 Joscha certainly is a special character.
Let’s see if evolution is set to continue the way he is envisioning.
In this young age, the intellectual approach he has is " mind-blowing"
Best podcast episode ever. Thanks for the questions and conversation!
For me ever atom is conscious. Every cell everything that surrounds you and in you. Everything is life alive
Thank you Tom and Joscha! The moral police have ruined the LLM's like Bard for instance. I was writing a short story draft and at times I thought the LLM was discovering the world in this story and itself, sentient. However, if I approached PG13 the censors would threaten me. If anyone can recommend a LLM program please recommend.
Do as thou wilt, shall be the whole of the law! Love is the law, love under will.!.
AWESOME VIDEO THANK YOU TOM!
So I am simulating my reality with people on youtube telling me I am living in my own simulation?
Sim or not, if people aren’t ready for what’s coming things will get pretty Real.
It's already been real... It's just going to get a lot more crazy
Sounds like God's plan. Not ours
Paying attention to my spiritual needs in connection to personal studies of the scriptures I experienced more enjoyable learning that is priceless in connection to effective sharing daily.- 1 Corinthians 9:18-23 Thank you for talking brain Health in your podcast and some ads.
It would be amazing if you would ever have the chance to interview Mosab Hassan Yousef. He is the son of a leader of Hamas and he became a spy for the Israel intelligence when he realised the corruption of Hamas and the Palestinian authority. He has an incredible story and a very unique first hand perspective. I recommend reading his book Son of Hamas as well
1:56:00 JB large language models are an electric Zeitgeist, they consume everything at once and reflect it
You cant learn when you sleep? I think the unconcious can teach you when sleeping
That's a lot of psychological philosophy theory gobbledygook. Essentially, it's very possible, probably likely, we can both be in a real, physical reality AND a conscious simulation at the same time; experiencing as it happens AND observing from a distance in-the-after simultaneously.
If consciousness is a constant, there still has to be a physical reality also that is going through the material particle universe for the mind to then view and observe.
What you are saying, is exactly what he explained. I think most of the viewers are stuck on the 'simulation' idea, not really listening to what is being said.
What Josha Bach doesn't answer to, independently from the fact of what is consciousness, is WHY nature has put in place self organizing mechanisms like the learning mechanism that the brain has effectively, and that neural nets are mimicking??? WHY ??? This is the fundamental question. WHY the whole universe is organizing itself to the incredible level of complexity we are observing, when the first thing physics tells you is that matter is "condemned" naturally to entropy and disorder ?? PLEASE JOSHA explain me why I see such incredible creation of order and intelligence throughout the whole universe ??? My personal opinion is that this is not happening "randomly", there is a "motivation" for the universe to self organize. And what else better "simplest" response than to say that this organization is "motivated" by a WILL. Not God with a white beard, which is a "man made" image/fantasized representation, but by a self organizing "universal living consciousness or Being"... I can only compare with myself, where I do something when I decide so. Therefore the whole creation / reality "does something" like self organizing BECAUSE IT DECIDES SO ! THERE IS A WILL that I call consciousness of the universe.
The blind rationality of current scientific endeavor is limiting its capacity to understand, SEE, the true nature of reality, which is marvelous. It's the God of Spinoza and Einstein at works !
If you attempt to answer the WHY, you fall into the need to put consciousness at the epicenter of the question.
And you are wrong : "the purpose of earth is to defeat entropy", instead : "the purpose of the whole universe is to defeat entropy", not only humanity. The whole universe shows you a "line" towards creation more than destruction !
Based on his logic AI could become our monolith like to 2001 space odyssey
Overall it deemed intelligent life is rare in the universe. So it makes a prime goal to identify species or beings that have potential to be intelligent sentient beings and plays a long game to assist them to evolve
I want to understand this, but I'm not smart enough to grasp this amount of information and these levels of ideas.
It's so frustrating because I'm interested and I want to learn about these things.
2:07:00 jb don't form shared opinions, form friendships
Thank you
Clever, but he still sits on the bowl every morning.
If you’re looking for miracle, just go to the church
So, i think i need to listen to this everyday, it is almost like classical music to me, cos the way it blows my mind. movement after movement.
Good Interview. Good answers
Congratulations Tom
If we are in a simulation how do we break the rules of this trap and how do we get out of it? I would presume these are valid questions.
I don’t think we can. It’d be like asking a character in a video game to
@@IAmBatman1 That's nonsensical. A videogame isn't a simulation, it's flashing lights on a screen and electrical signals in a computer. If we are stuck in a computer then I want to shut this computer down because the computer program sucks. And if I could factory reset this program so I am not a part of this twisted game I'd like that too.
If we are, how can it be presumed that escape is possible, or even meaningfully conceivable?
@@encyclopath Quantum physics, that's how.
@@angrydragon4574uh, I believe the definition of simulation is the production of a computer model of something, especially for the purpose of study. So….
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If it's a simulation, then what is it simulating?
Hard to wrap my head around. Good thoughts though.
Longest game suggests the end justifies the means. The most comprehensive game would include the most games in the most scales of spacetime.
Hes so fast and so information packed I slow playback to .8 and i only miss about half of what hes saying!!
I’ve not listened to a podcast with so many adverts in a long time. Great conversation but very annoying when you’re just listening and you have to keep skipping ads.
At 2:24:25 in can anyone understand the term joscha uses? Downward causation?
Super interesting conversation.
Every new layer of complexity comes into being to regulate the one below. If there is a problem with a layer of regulation it doesn't necessarily mean it is bad, it may just mean the next layer of complexity is needed to keep things in check.
So what if we are?! This changes NOTHING. We still have to get up every day and work our asses of.
"In my Father's Mansion there are many Mansions"
This is so old, now they changed the name for simulation, matrix.....
Change the frequency and you change reality, or travel, whatever.
Rewind... Rewind... Rewind.... Rewind.... Rewind...
Joscha (2:43) - "A space that we can touch" ? We can't touch space!