Great guide, was wondering if you could explain the single target rotation with m+ talents. My main confusion is when should we ice lance in Single Target. Also, in AoE should winters chill only ever be consumed with frost bolts and glacial spikes?
The single target rotation plays the same as DF season 4. We ice lance when we have fingers of frost and GS when we can shatter it with flurry. You cast frostbolt as a filler. In aoe we consume winters chill with ice lance over frostbolt if you play these talents and ofcourse glacial spike is always top priority for winter’s chill if we have glacial spike available! I’m happy you enjoyed the video and let me know if you have any other questions ^^
@@Huggmark a short 3-4 min Video about ST would be great. Would Push your follower as well cause many people search for single target Guides Would be great.
Thanks for the video Hugg! In some of your videos you frost nova / freeze before your comet storms, but in this one you tend to use it for Glacial Spike during AOE. Is there a preference over the 2 approaches?
Realistically you'd not care too much about shattering comet storm with either of the two. It's a bad habit I have. If you were to shatter it however you'd probably want to be using frost nova as it's much harder to use it for shattering GS, which is why we'd want to save or ice nova. Though frost nova barely deals any damage by itself and so the gcd is a little wasted. It's not gonna make or break your damage and so it doesnt *really* matter.
thanks for the guide, was maining ele but dont like the new rotation so trying to learn frost and due to the frost changes a lot of the guides seem a bit out of date -- this helps a lot! Ill echo what people said in other comments, would love a quick breakdown of what the st rotation looks like with the m+ talents. I didn't personally play DF so a lot of the reccs are lost on me
Hiya! I am happy to welcome you to the forst mage family. I just posted a new video quickly going through the ST rotation: ua-cam.com/video/UZMEUm4yNhU/v-deo.html&ab_channel=Hugg I hope this can help answer your thoughts and questions ^^
you mentioned non freezable mobs in the end, what if we are capped on icicles? just spam frostbold and wait for proc or cd to come back up? or send the gs anyway? oh and on that note: what happens if in aoe we're capped on icicles, no way to freeze and we keep getting fingers? cast frostbold to get a proc or spam lances?
@@senX if you look at the graphic I included in the rotation you can see that we cast ice lance with fof as our filler. Very rarely will you be forced to use frostbolt in aoe. If you have max icicles and can’t shatter the GS you just hold it and keep ice lancing until you either 1. Run out of fof/orb/blizzard and have to frostbolt and get a flurry charge or 2. Generate a flurry charge from splinterstorm/water elemental
Hiya! For this build you never want to cast frostbolt after flurry, you do want to cast flurry after frostbolt. You would alwqays follow a flurry cast with either 2x ice lance or a GS and ice lance.
Hiya! I actually don't have any nameplate addon installed and simply using the blizzard default ones. Other than that I run with bigwigs/littlewigs, angrykeystones and omnicd. Those are probably the addons that are the most relevant to me when it comes do dungeons.
shouldnt you shatter comet storm? i mean u can icenova/frostnova/freeze before the comets touch the mobs ( only on 2nd comet storm, cause first is shattered by cone of cold )
You can, and I do sometimes, but ymostly you wanna save pet freeze / ice cold to shatter GS as it does more dmg and using frost nova is bad becuase frost nova itself does 0 dmg and so it would yield more to just use ice lances in that GCD instead, specially with our tier set.
Usually when I sim for m+ I do 5T 1.5min sims. In ST you always wanna sim 5min patchwerk fights for raid and you could go down to 3min patchwerk for m+ bosses, though I would recommend to just stay on 5 min.
How do you guys comet storm twice? When I comet storm -> cone of ice-> orb then I still have a 20 second cooldown on next comet storm. But how are you playing it twice?
hi man thanks for guide can i have a tips? i dont undrstend when in sigle targeth is worth Glacial Spike....under Icy veins its worth when i have flurry up or under flurry's debuff....but if im not under icy vains and i have 5 stack of icycle...its worth cast GS only if i have flurry up or if target have flurry's debuff?
Hiya friend! I have now posted a short video covering the ST rotation: ua-cam.com/video/UZMEUm4yNhU/v-deo.html&ab_channel=Hugg I hope this can help answer your questions!
hey , i have a question , i have 32 % of crit and 13 in mastery , i'm 619 ilvl , i need to up my mastery or not ? i'm dont doing +13 , i do +8 and +9 , but i my overall it's to low , i dont go more than 700k.. i dont undestand why ...
I would recommend you sim yourself with raidbots and see what it says that you should target. You can do a droptimizer sim and check all the gear from m+/raid to see what seems to be better for your character. I think a lot of people are running around 16-19% mastery and so it could be that you'd want a few more percent.
I am happy your damage improved! With flurries you can use them to get that last icicles however if there are multiple targets alive a FoF ice lance hitting two targets and proccing our tier set will simply do more damage and give you the same effect, that is generating icicles.
This guide gave me 6-pack abs
Thanks for the guide, your my favorite frost mage youtuber ❤
Hiya! I really appreciate the kind words, always happy to help! ^^
I love the fact you've used graphics to show exact rotation, thank you from a new beginner mage!
I figured it would be a little easier to understand than just a block of text haha! Im glad it helped :)
The worst part about frost mage aoe is that tanks always feel like you are damaging them too so they move out of your spells.
This is very true and exactly why I dont use @cursor for blizzard, you never know when those prescy tanks are gonna do some last second movement.
thanks to this guide i went from 4th dps overall to 3rd! Thanks so much Hugg!
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Great guide, was wondering if you could explain the single target rotation with m+ talents. My main confusion is when should we ice lance in Single Target.
Also, in AoE should winters chill only ever be consumed with frost bolts and glacial spikes?
The single target rotation plays the same as DF season 4. We ice lance when we have fingers of frost and GS when we can shatter it with flurry. You cast frostbolt as a filler.
In aoe we consume winters chill with ice lance over frostbolt if you play these talents and ofcourse glacial spike is always top priority for winter’s chill if we have glacial spike available!
I’m happy you enjoyed the video and let me know if you have any other questions ^^
@@Huggmark a short 3-4 min Video about ST would be great. Would Push your follower as well cause many people search for single target Guides
Would be great.
@@hizay5751 Hiya! Due to popular demand I have now posted this video: ua-cam.com/video/UZMEUm4yNhU/v-deo.html&ab_channel=Hugg I hope it can be of help
Thanks for the video Hugg! In some of your videos you frost nova / freeze before your comet storms, but in this one you tend to use it for Glacial Spike during AOE.
Is there a preference over the 2 approaches?
I have the same question
Realistically you'd not care too much about shattering comet storm with either of the two. It's a bad habit I have. If you were to shatter it however you'd probably want to be using frost nova as it's much harder to use it for shattering GS, which is why we'd want to save or ice nova. Though frost nova barely deals any damage by itself and so the gcd is a little wasted. It's not gonna make or break your damage and so it doesnt *really* matter.
I grew a mustache from watching this video
LETS GO!!!! Thanks a ton!
thanks for the guide, was maining ele but dont like the new rotation so trying to learn frost and due to the frost changes a lot of the guides seem a bit out of date -- this helps a lot!
Ill echo what people said in other comments, would love a quick breakdown of what the st rotation looks like with the m+ talents. I didn't personally play DF so a lot of the reccs are lost on me
Hiya! I am happy to welcome you to the forst mage family. I just posted a new video quickly going through the ST rotation: ua-cam.com/video/UZMEUm4yNhU/v-deo.html&ab_channel=Hugg I hope this can help answer your thoughts and questions ^^
@Huggmark awesome! Really appreciate it, thanks man
thanks so much! I do wful dps right now - I hope this can help
Best of luck out there! ^^
you mentioned non freezable mobs in the end, what if we are capped on icicles? just spam frostbold and wait for proc or cd to come back up? or send the gs anyway? oh and on that note: what happens if in aoe we're capped on icicles, no way to freeze and we keep getting fingers? cast frostbold to get a proc or spam lances?
@@senX if you look at the graphic I included in the rotation you can see that we cast ice lance with fof as our filler. Very rarely will you be forced to use frostbolt in aoe. If you have max icicles and can’t shatter the GS you just hold it and keep ice lancing until you either 1. Run out of fof/orb/blizzard and have to frostbolt and get a flurry charge or 2. Generate a flurry charge from splinterstorm/water elemental
thanks for that!
holy shit stop everything.
hugg's long-awaited video is out !! :D
Haha! I am happy you got what you waited for ;)
hi! thanks for the video, i don't understand why you have to cast frostbolt after flurry instead of doing 2 ice lance, can you please explain ?
Hiya! For this build you never want to cast frostbolt after flurry, you do want to cast flurry after frostbolt. You would alwqays follow a flurry cast with either 2x ice lance or a GS and ice lance.
Thanks for the guide! What addons do you run? Especially your enemy plates
Hiya! I actually don't have any nameplate addon installed and simply using the blizzard default ones. Other than that I run with bigwigs/littlewigs, angrykeystones and omnicd. Those are probably the addons that are the most relevant to me when it comes do dungeons.
shouldnt you shatter comet storm? i mean u can icenova/frostnova/freeze before the comets touch the mobs ( only on 2nd comet storm, cause first is shattered by cone of cold )
You can, and I do sometimes, but ymostly you wanna save pet freeze / ice cold to shatter GS as it does more dmg and using frost nova is bad becuase frost nova itself does 0 dmg and so it would yield more to just use ice lances in that GCD instead, specially with our tier set.
@Hugg could you place the talent code in the description please?
Have done, good point! ^^
Hello, in what simulation settings are we supposed to sim our characters for m+ or st for example?
Usually when I sim for m+ I do 5T 1.5min sims. In ST you always wanna sim 5min patchwerk fights for raid and you could go down to 3min patchwerk for m+ bosses, though I would recommend to just stay on 5 min.
@hugg what wa is showing u the cooldowns of mirror image, icebarrier, etc?
Hiya! It's my general WA package, you can find it in my WA video I did earlier this season ^^
Thanks !! :D finaly i know the second stats ^^
My mage grows after watching your videos. I want to grow even more. Can I share the weekauras with you?
Ofcourse you can!
How do you guys comet storm twice? When I comet storm -> cone of ice-> orb then I still have a 20 second cooldown on next comet storm. But how are you playing it twice?
You need to hit at least 3 mobs with cone of cold
@ damn, I would have never guessed. Is this a bug that was never fixed? I don’t see that standing in any description
@@martinjaehrling Its a talent called "coldest snap" you can see the description on the talent in the talent tree :)
@ okay, then it’s just my fault for not reading properly. I apologize and thank you for taking the time to clarify it ❤️
hi man thanks for guide can i have a tips? i dont undrstend when in sigle targeth is worth Glacial Spike....under Icy veins its worth when i have flurry up or under flurry's debuff....but if im not under icy vains and i have 5 stack of icycle...its worth cast GS only if i have flurry up or if target have flurry's debuff?
Hiya friend! I have now posted a short video covering the ST rotation: ua-cam.com/video/UZMEUm4yNhU/v-deo.html&ab_channel=Hugg I hope this can help answer your questions!
Hey! Whats the wa with the snowflakes? Can you link? I got a version of it but it doesnt work in 11.05
Hiya! The WA can be found here: wago.io/af15j-qRB/1
hey , i have a question , i have 32 % of crit and 13 in mastery , i'm 619 ilvl , i need to up my mastery or not ? i'm dont doing +13 , i do +8 and +9 , but i my overall it's to low , i dont go more than 700k.. i dont undestand why ...
I would recommend you sim yourself with raidbots and see what it says that you should target. You can do a droptimizer sim and check all the gear from m+/raid to see what seems to be better for your character. I think a lot of people are running around 16-19% mastery and so it could be that you'd want a few more percent.
@@Huggmark THX a lot
I did your rotation and did a lot more dmg. But its feels off to sit on flurrys. Do you use them to get faster Glacials ? Greetings
I am happy your damage improved! With flurries you can use them to get that last icicles however if there are multiple targets alive a FoF ice lance hitting two targets and proccing our tier set will simply do more damage and give you the same effect, that is generating icicles.
@@Huggmark Ah okay I see! Thank you mate :)
When we can get a single target rotation for dumbs? (me)
I have now uploaded this video, I hope it helps! ua-cam.com/video/UZMEUm4yNhU/v-deo.html&ab_channel=Hugg
Get a damn target at cursor macro for blizzard. What is wrong with you?
Don't need one, thanks for your concern though :)