This song always gets a mention when they were asked what they thought one of the best songs they had ever written was. Sir Barry, in particular, was quite fond of that lyric.
Barry Gibb was/is close enough to perfect for me and most of the world. That's why we adore him and the Bee Gees and why their music continues to give endless pleasure to millions everyday. Ditch the pitch correction! When I want to listen to Bee Gees music, I want to hear the real thing! Thanks, Fil!!
Pitch correction and auto-tune are such appalling insults to great vocalists!!! I'd love to see them both banned forever - or at the very least require huge disclaimers on any music that is ruined with those horrendous technologies. Thanks, Fil, for posting this analysis.
Its such a shame that singers aren't able to have their own genuine voices. Do the artists like Barry have any say over what is done to their recordings. Do the producers make money when they do the pitch perfect stuff. Thanks for bringing this to our attention. The way we can help is not buying the products these producers alter.
I don't care for the digitally remastered songs either! All of this weird technology is crazy. Guess I'm old but I don't care .They are messing with a real musical genius and a true living legend when they tamper with Sir Barry's wonderful pitch perfect voice!!!
I think they think that most people either won't be able to tell the difference, or won't care, and they'll still be able to sell lots of glossy new "remastered" recordings to a clueless public. Ultimately it's all just about money.
It is because we have a whole generation that has grown up listening to autouned music their whole lives and know nothing else. They think natural singing voices suck. It has been the industry standard for years now.
@@crunchyfrog63I can tell the difference more in the pitch corrected version than in the original, live version. PC is too sanitized; takes the life out of music.
No kidding. I got rid of my DVD and CD players years ago, along with all my movies and albums, because we really needed to save space wherever we could. Besides, I thought at the time, everything's available online anyway. 😕
His vocals, to my ears, were perfectly, beautifully balanced without the completely unnecessary pitch correction! I mean, really…why bother when these artists will always be one of the best vocal groups in musical history?? Thanks for sharing this with us. You’re doing the right thing to focus on the original performances of great singers like the BeeGees.
How dare they! Just absolutely disgusting. The arrogance to think anyone can "correct" the perfect Bee Gees amazing voices, harmonies and musical genius. Barry Gibb, my idol for 50 years.
That's what happened when you sign a deal with a record label. They owned all the artist's works and can do whatever they want with them. Luckily, with today's access, an artist can go full independent and be as pure as they wanted.
I’m by no means a professional musician, (I play piano at church 😊), but I feel like you are doing something so very important that we should all pay attention to your channel. I fear we are losing generations of natural, beautiful singers.
Indeed! I was in church this past Sunday listening to one of the singers whose voice I really love. The thought actually entered my mind... what if she's fake? I'm not saying she is or that I'm even suspecting she is! I'm just saying that I've now become so used to being lied to that the idea is apparently already in the back of my mind, ready to pop up even in situations where I am not intentionally thinking about it. It makes me sad. And it makes me feel sick.
I am still gobsmacked that anyone would hear the Bee Gees and think to themselves, "That needs a touch-up." This music was so popular and ubiquitous that it was practically like nitrogen: it was omnipresent. Car radios were devices that filled the car with Bee Gees music. They were so talented and fantastic at their jobs that they achieved a potentially life-ruining level of fame and had a crazy number of #1 hits both from them and work they wrote and produced for others -- doesn't that prove that their music doesn't need to get fkked with? And now that the industry has insisted on moving us all off of physical media and onto the electron-rental model of music access, the original versions will be gone eventually. Even the archival versions will get destroyed eventually if the giant pile of money called the recording industry wants it done. I don't even listen to music anymore. If I want to hear it, I either make it or I read the sheet music and hear it in my head in perfect fidelity.
I keep reading people that say what you do...That producers hear an old vocal and think, "it needs to be fixed." I really don't think that's the case. I think they do it because it has become standard practice. A singer like Ariana Grande has a more naturally accurate pitch than any of the Gibbs, but all her recordings are pitch-corrected, too. I hate it as much as you do, but it's the mindset of doing it all the same.
@@trekkiejunkhow do you know she's more accurate than the Beegees- all music today is pitched corrected/auto tuned within an inch of it's life and as for 'live' that too!
Could it be that because so many modern "singers" (read: hyped artists that need to be elevated to star-level) are so heavily pitch-corrected that they, producers ánd record-companies, feel that the voices of the real talents from the past need to be pitch-corrected to avoid the new "stars" voices falling way short in comparisons? I mean: if you want to sell "the greatest new male voice since Barry Gibb" and in an analysis the sound of Gibb's voice wipes the floor with that of the new "talent" because it ISN'T pitch-corrected, it's easier to pitch-correct Gibb's voice than having the new "talent" putting in lessons and effort to improve his voice to the level of Gibb's voice. Because to me that's all what pitch-correction is about: making people who have at best mediocre voices sound like they have top voices simply because they HAVE to be seen as top talents. Back in the '80's and '90's we had what was called the Euro-pop scene: music that was heavily synthesizer based that featured voices of people who couldn't really sing. It was said back then that if you had money and wanted to cut a record, you went to special producers like Giorgio Moroder, who had a whole trickbag of massaging, polishing and hiding the mediocrity of your voice. Moroder was a genius, who used all kinds of techniques, like multiple overdubs, having the synthesizers mask the voice at critical moments and a pumping beat to further drown out all kinds of imperfections. Modern day studios have taken it to another level and for music enthusiasts it becomes harder and harder to really enjoy music, as everything sounds so sterile.
AWESOME!!! Thank you so much for the follow-up on this. I'ts not enough that they want to robotisize new music, they have to go back and destroy the real music of the past?!?!?
10:47 well they just completely destroyed Barry's unique singing style. He doesn't complete certain sounds. Like the song Run To Me, when he sings "Am I unwise, to open up your eyes to love me." When he sings unwise and eyes, he cuts off the sound from his voice, and then hits a sort of silent "s". and in this phrase here, he cuts off the sound before he hits the very top of the note, but he does that intentionally. To a computer, it sounds incomplete, or maybe a little flat. To music lovers, it just sounds like Sir Barry Alan Crompton-F'ing-Gibb. I just can't believe this. It's heart breaking. I shudder to think who's/what's next.
Yes, this is Sir Barry's own unique singing style and his fans have loved and recognized it going on 60 years now. These people should be ashamed changing this real living legend's beautiful voice and technique. Sacrilegious!!!😡😡😡
As most things are about "transparency," I think any recording that has been pitch corrected or auto tuned ought to stipulate this on the packaging. We are buying records, believing them to be trye representations of the artists voice, under false pretences! It's such a deceitful and (for the majority of singers) totally unnecessary practice. Knowing this gem of information has certainly altered my opinions of the music industry!! Thank You, Thank You, Thank You. I really appreciate you and your awesome channel 👏👏👏👏👏👏❤️
I am so thankful that my parents were into music! They have passed down to me all of their vinal collection of the best music ever made! I have the complete collection of BeeGee music, The Beatles, and all of the iconic singers of that time period! All before the atrocious pitch correction and auto tune! The BeeGees definitely need no help from anyone with their vocals! Nice analysis video, Fil! Well done! 💜
@@BGWhisperer I am very well aware of what Fil is talking about! I have been following him for years and supporting him as a patren! Fil knows that I know what he is showing us and talking about!
You are the best reaction channel! Your smile i love when you listen to the music! The Bee Gees are absolutely fabulous! Still have a crush on Barry all of these years later! I'm also a Roy Clark and Glen Campbell fan! Thank you for including them on your videos! You are great!
Fil has stated before that this is NOT a “reaction channel”, it’s an analysis channel. I think it minimizes it to lower this to the status of a reaction channel.
Seen one of his vids and you've seen them all. He plays on his elderly followers nostalgia for the music of their youth, and your sense of superiority about the music from back in the day. It's a very lucrative gimmick for Phil - who is a talentless singer himself.
Hi Fil, I can't understand for the life of me why the music companies would pitch correct the voices of singers whose voices are perfect enough just the way they are! I love the Bee Gees, and their voices blend beautifully together. There's no need for pitch correction there. I hope something can be done about auto tune and pitch correction in the future! Thank you, Fil, for this very interesting and informative analysis! You are incredibly amazing! Rock!
Funny, that whoever pitch corrects these artists, thinks it will make them sound better and we will like them even more! Lol We already love them, and know how talented they are. !We have already loved their music for years!!
@@Lilah1754 I can imagine two things: 1) their market research showed that pitch-corrected sells better / expected by new generation 2) It is a step in a standard processing pipeline, so that they do not even have a second thought. Get recording, send to one department, another department, pitch correcting department, factory for production
Even if they weren't perfect, once they are released, and absorbed by fans a certain way, the vocals shouldn't be changed. I love New Order, and Bernard Sumner might have the worst voice i've ever heard on a pitch perspective. Still, if they pitch-corrected all his old vocals, it wouldn't be the same music anymore.
@@dmitripogosian5084 -- I seriously doubt the VAST majority of under 40-somethings can even hear pitch correction to begin with. Beyond that, we're also assuming that if they hear old recordings, they would be able to tell that they are not pitch-corrected, and then reject them. That's a lot of leaps in assumption about the music consumption of the young.
That sharp note by Barry is not „off“ due to being sharp, but rather part of an intentional (!) form of artistic expression - a rising-and-falling curve or tonal arch that must exceed the upper peak much like a roller coaster that gives one the feeling of rising up and out of one‘s seat before plunging. The backing vocals do something similar, and perhaps they were even mirroring each other in that, and aiming for a similar rise and fall. It feels (in the original), like a kind of ecstatic, very human sigh. Gluing that to the line removes the drama from this musical event that is actually essential to the sound and feel of the original!!!! That section is kind of like an intended over-the-mark release of energy that then falls off in a very natural way. Don‘t you hear it that way, too? Many songs depend on this effect of intentionally overshooting a mark in order to increase emotional impact and leave the listener hanging on for more.
Beautifully said. It is deliberate intention to lower frequencies. How tragic that youth of today will not experience that thrill and euphoria that music can give. We have been so privileged to have known the beauty of music and how it can pull at our heartstrings, it’s pleasure is beyond words. Another layer of sadness descends upon the earth. Our vinyls are becoming priceless treasured possessions.
I work in IT. I had a conversation with someone today who was worried about something that wasn't broken, but MIGHT break. My exact words to him: "why would we want to fix something, that isn't broken?" I guess music producers have forgotten that ancient wisdom.
I mean, that applies to only SOME things. If there are major cracks in a bridge, you don't wait until the bridge collapses before you fix it. (Well, maybe in America we do.) If the brakes on your car are getting worn, but they still work, you don't wait until they are bald. You fix it. When your tooth gets a tiny cavity, you don't wait until your tooth is rotten. You plug that hole and fix it. --- This is nothing against the pitch-correction argument. I hate it too. This is just about the ancient wisdom.
@@trekkiejunk, He said “might break,” not that any sign of wear or weakness was found. He might’ve been working with an OCD worrier. There’s a reason that we still say “if it’s not broken, don’t try to fix it”.
It's a shame that these great voices are no longer good enough. This is like a masterpiece painting that someone uses crayons on to "correct ", when they manipulate the voice
I'm not convinced that they think "he's not good enough." I'm guessing that it's more about standard industry practice. Remember, they pitch correct young singers with tremendous natural voices who are nearly pitch perfect already. Ariana Grande is not my type of music in the least, but her real voice is incredible. But due to standard practice, all her recordings are still pitch-corrected.
It's also just a waste of time and resources. Someone was paid to "correct" something that maybe a billion+ people had enjoyed without issue, and actively loved. Why? Who benefits? Who is this for? What difference does it make when the pitch is already this close and they're losing something else in the process? It's truly mind-boggling to think what people perceive is being achieved here, when instead they could just... not? It genuinely is like someone "correcting" a Van Gogh that people have been enjoying for a century with zero ill-effects. Not only is it profoundly weird, it's also artistically void.
Thank you Fil. I guess I'm more appreciative of music archives now that you have to get original recordings from them. Thank God that the archives are safe from manipulation for now. ROCK.🎸🎵🤘
Respect. Which I have for this channel, but those people don't have for the music. On the other hand, now when I miss a note, I just call it my style. 😋
I wish Barry was sitting at your side during this video to witness & comment. He's still with us & his input & observations would be invaluable. And yes, I have vintage Bee Gees vinyl & CD's.
THIS. The analysis to end all debate over the ridiculousness of pitch correction. Perfect line by line comparison showing production treachery. Well done, Mr. Fil!
I am on a Bee Gees binge, so I thought your video was an old one. Funny how things sometimes happen. Thank you for educating people on what actual singers and musicians used to do. Hopefully this trend of trying to "correct" everything stops soon.
Barry's voice needed nothing. It seems an almost OCD to fix what's not broken. Amazing investigative research you've done Fil, and superb videos. Thank You for revealing how live music is processed now & and exposing the "wizards" who foolishly alter the bio fingerprint of amazing singers... creating a robotic version of an organic sound. You're the best Fil. Any negativity just write-off because you won't change the cult's mind. Look forward to much more extraordinary content from WOP.
It's examples like this that make me happy that I've hung on to my original vinyl records and CDs over the years. Thanks for the great comparative analysis, Fil! ❤
Thank you to the person who sent this precious archive performance from Barry and the other Gibb brothers. Thank you Fil for doing this important video. So heartbreaking they would do this to ruin such an important recording. You are the GOAT!
OMG! I am 67 and to my ear, the way these 3 sung was impeccable. I hate these darn record companies that must pitch/auto correct everything. Seriously, I absolutely dislike the idea that everything MUST BE perfect. Good grief. LEAVE IT ALONE! Fil, question! Do the singer have a say in how their voice sounds ie engineers, producers, to leave their voice as they are?
Thank you for another great video. Like many have said, the way the music industry, or any media industry generally, does things like this is crazy. I feel like pitch "correcting" takes away from the emotion and artistry that was being created by men and women like Barry Gibb.
Thanks so much, Fil, for that national archives link! Just watched the Bee Gees live in concert on my semi-big screen tv with attached BOSE speaker (that's the extent of my tech know-how, ahem) and it was pure joy. Not only did it sound terrific but knowing that it was indeed the best version of the Bee Gees and that we weren't being deprived of the full pleasure of their natural voices by way of pitch correction made the experience an infinitely joyful one. While listening, I couldn't help but consider all that we have lost and continue to lose at the control panels of producers who no longer hear music with their ears but only see it with their eyes and it actually brought tears to mine. We simply cannot let the practice of pitch correcting and/or auto-tuning the natural voices of great singers continue with impunity. Come on, real music lovers and artists with integrity! Are we ready to fight back!!!? Guess in future I'll be spending some time delving into the music section of the Internet Archive and loving every minute of it. That is, when I'm not doing my part in the coming revolution to change the sad trajectory of the music industry before the sheer artistry of a great singer's expressive and emotion-filled natural human voice is lost forever. Thanks again, Fil, for all that you are doing in a valiant effort to preserve and protect the real music we have loved for so long.
Now that it is known that these other/original versions exist, the powers that be, will demand the removal of the originals from those and other archives!
Not a "national" archive. Fil got that wrong. The Internet Archive, a 501(c)(3) non-profit, is building a digital library of Internet sites and other cultural artifacts in digital form. Like a paper library, we provide free access to researchers, historians, scholars, people with print disabilities, and the general public. Our mission is to provide Universal Access to All Knowledge.
@@johnrussell6620 I just this very instant had a nightmarish thought along that line. But, that will only happen if we let it. Do you think we could recruit Barry Gibb - and other like minds - in the effort to make this issue known to much, much, much wider audience than Fil's subscribers. Perhaps what we need here is an act of Congress. (is there already a law against tampering with anything in the archives???) But, our numbers will have to increase substantially first. There are still only 10,000 sigs on Fil's petition so you know it's going to be a tough slog but well worth the fight!
can I give a shout out to the now late Robin Gibb, amazing singer. his singing on Wedding day, for whom the bell tolls and alone, absolutely perfect, to mention three songs, the rest, magical too.
I wasn't born when this was performed, so I feel incredibly grateful to be able to hear these original recordings of my favourite artists. Seeing what producers are doing to manipulate original performances makes me angry. Fil, those handy notices under the recording we were currently hearing was an excellent idea. Really made it clear 👍
By the way, my spouse isn't much into music theory, but I've told him about your videos, trying to explain to him the best I can what you're showing and hearing. I didn't think he was "getting it," but then yesterday, he said, "You MUST listen to the new Boy George version of Bronsky Beat's "Smalltown Boy." He said it didn't sound anything like Boy George. So I took a listen, and it's SO manipulated, it almost sounds like T-Pain or Cher. If I'd heard it without knowing, I would never guess it was Boy George singing. At least your lessons are spreading. Admittedly, it's much more distorted than this unneeded pitch correction, but at least someone not used to listening that closely to songs can identify the process. I was so proud of him! And thanks to you for helping me explain it.
You've just ruined my day. I got excited, for about 2 seconds, for a Boy George version of Small-town Boy, then I read the rest of your comment. I had just responded to someone else who mentioned him, that I'd be heartbroken if I ever heard a pitch corrected BG vocal. I've seen him live 3 times, and his voice comes as close to perfect as you can get. He really was one of the very best voices to come out of the 80's.
Phil, I enjoy your passion for musical integrity not only for purity but also your respect for each performer’s personal qualities they express in their music. BTW, you have a great smile.
Vocals from the past are so offensively human and natural they must be "corrected"? We thought we were hearing the most amazingly creative stuff ever when leaned into our radios or hovered over our turntables, breathless and thrilled! Silly us in our platform shoes. Thank goodness we now get to hear how it REALLY should have gone down! (Thank you, Fil, for exposing this artistic destruction!)
I don't think that's why they do this. It's become so standard to pitch-correct everything in modern music, it just becomes automatic for doing it to old recordings. It has nothing to do with judgment on the past. Remember, there are singers today who are naturally more accurate pitch-wise than the Gibbs ever were, but they are also pitch-corrected. I hate it, too. But it's just the thing to do now.
@@trekkiejunk Of course it's a judgement on past artistic work. It's also a pretty damn serious erasure of historical and cultural artifacts. That's why I was being sarcastic. It is so ubiquitous to do this "correcting" now. How would you know if there are more accurate singers today (naturally) if they are pitch corrected automatically? And how is anything ever "just the thing to do"?
Another masterful screw up by the producers to one of the most iconic voices of all time, Barry Gibb. Listening to this through my headset; to my ears sounded perfect!! I mean, "If It Ain't Broke, Don't Fix-It" !! Ugh! Thank you Fil - you presented a brilliant analysis video.
Thank you so much, Fil. The Bee Gees are my favorite group so this is very disheartening that their official channel is allowing this manipulation of their voices. Obviously, Barry, Robin, and Maurice don't need any "perfecting," because their voices are naturally perfect. I purchased this Australian concert on VHS years ago and wish it was digitized... then again, maybe not.
You can digitize it yourself. I got a multiple media player (vinyl, cassette, CD), with speakers, and Bluetooth, that will convert a recording to a digital file (or vinyl/cassette to CD).
@@soulaesthete8563 , You’re welcome. Some are surprisingly affordable. I spent some time researching the options. Libraries are a source for borrowing the original vinyl or CD if you don’t have it already. Then burn a copy, and you’ll be set.
We listen with our ears, not machines. Even people who aren't fans of the Bee Gees' music can agree that there voices are brilliant. Slightly flat or slightly sharp, the natural ear can't hear that, so to us they are perfection! It's so offensive that music producers should think that Barry's voice needs correcting. Thanks for doing this video Fil and sharing with us that the music industry has really taken things too far.
Why in the world would anyone mess with these vocals we already love. I don't understand it! I was the Real! Gibbs? Really? OMG! Glad you're speaking out.
Recently found your channel and I love what you're doing! Except now my ears are very much in tune to these sadly used vocal tools. I've found myself listening more and more to my old albums from the 60's, 70's, 80's. This specific video actually made me cry! The Bee Gees were AMAZING with AMAZING voices!!! That these "idiots" in charge ~whomever they may be ~ actually thought they needed to pitch correct Barry friggin Gibb?!?! It is sacrilege!! Do NOT mess with perfection. WHY? Music has saved me, gotten me through some of the worst things in my life and it's the one thing I can't live without. I just want the powers to be to leave the originals alone. Thank you for all that you do Fil. 💖😊
This is actually the micro view of a major societal problem we are currently facing...Equality is defined as an equal opportunity to use your full talent, resources, skill and, yes, a little luck, to achieve your most fulll potential, and equity is equal outcome, regardles of your effort, talent or skill. If you! can't hit the lines, no problem! We'll hit them for you! And then we'll do it for everyone else, so that everything sounds like it was sung into a tin coffee can. How Wonderful!
Hi Fil, Great analysis tonight! Especially the side by side vocal comparison. Barry Gibb don’t need no pitch correction….LOL. He is the master of songwriting, singing and performing! Oh and he plays his own instrument. He has given the world so many musical gifts the likes which we may never see again. It is sad they are doing this to this very talented man. Thanks for doing this one! You AreThe Best! Debbie☮️
Fascinating as always Fil. You're quite right too that someone has been looking at waveforms here rather than listening. These vocals are essentially perfect and yet someone has gone in there and fiddled with little bits here and there. Ridiculous.
As someone who shops in second-hand stores, I'll keep my eye out for older CDs. Or tapes--I have a player that does both. If I had a record player, I'd go vinyl!
Do artists really not mind having this done with their music? If it were me, I'd be wanting to sue any producer or label that manipulated my music like that. At the very least, a disclaimer should be made that "This music has been corrected", or at most, outlaw the whole process.
Great video Fil! Congrats on 409,000 subs👏 Are music producers trying to justify their jobs? At the same time thinking we don't care.? Keep up the good work. ❤
Your channel is a treasure. Thank you for this. I'm not a huge fan of the Bee Gees--just not my sort of music. But you have to be a true philistine (not a Fil-istine!) not to appreciate Barry Gibb's voice --and you have to be a true philistine to pitch-correct it. As for him being slightly sharp on those high notes: I think that being slightly sharp there helps emphasize the meaning of the lyric. So it's not at all an "error" that needs correction. He wasn't sharp enough to be wrong; he was just sharp enough to be right in terms of the emotional content of the song. That's a matter of art, not audio engineering.
You need to do one on "To Much heaven" bee gees because that's a beautiful & perfect song. If you did this I'm sorry I'm new to your channel & love it, keep up the great work.
Thank you so much for bringing this issue to public attention. I had no idea this was even happening until I came across one of your videos a few weeks ago. I find it atrocious that this is being done to virtually all contemporary vocal performances, but to do it to performances from years or decades before this technology even existed is pure cultural vandalism. It's not even a question of whether a performance was "good enough that they don't need it". Art from the past should be respected for what it was and not changed into something different. Just like no one should be taking the Mona Lisa and repainting it to make it "better" or more appealing to current sensibilities. I certainly hope more people will start taking an interest in this issue.
So sad, especially if we end up losing all the originals of the period, for the beegees and any other artist. How do the BeeGees think this is the right thing to do??? Incredible. Let's see if they manage to correct a voice like Boy George or Marc Almond from back in the day without anyone noticing?? Thanks for all the work Fil!😊
I would cry if I ever heard a pitch corrected Boy George. I've seen him live 3 times, and he's another singer who has as near to a perfect voice as it's possible to get.
@@Terri_MacKay sorry to contradict you just a little. Boy George's unmistakable voice is easily recognized as being "out of tune" many times, or notes being very obviously sung flat. But that's part of his musical charm. That should never be touched by producers, please. That's why I gave the example of him.
@@MarcByrne I agree. His voice certainly has "flaws" but I think he's got one of the most beautiful voices I've ever heard, and I think it's definitely one of the best voices to come out of the 80's. I saw him live before the days of Auto-Tune, and he was amazing in concert. Just after I left my last reply, I read a comment by someone else who had just heard a version of Smalltown Boy by Boy George where his voice has been manipulated out of all recognition. They said that they wouldn't even have known it was him unless they'd been told.☹️
@@Terri_MacKay oh dear, I'll have to check that awful manipulation out... I hope they stop all this im-perfection one day . Terrible. Thanks for mentioning it
@@Terri_MacKay Just heard a snippet of the beginning of Smalltown Boy, enough, with auto-tune or distorsion or whatever they want to call it. Incredible how artists agree to be produced like that
I'm just barely into this video, and I have to say, I NEED a Matrix shirt like that!! I saw it on another video you did recently, and I have to go find one and buy it. Very cool. Okay, I'm going to watch the rest of the video now....
"We're living in. a world of fools breaking us down" What an appropriate line given the context of this analysis.
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8:28 Wharra marvelous vocalizing even without music sounds so warm and magical.Chills.
This song always gets a mention when they were asked what they thought one of the best songs they had ever written was. Sir Barry, in particular, was quite fond of that lyric.
It’s unreal that they would think Barry Gibb needed pitch perfection. This blows my mind.
'they look at vocals rather than hearing them'
Pitch correction
@@sandybarnes887 that’s what I meant
@@annajosullivan they think it's perfection but pitch correction totally ruins it
You said it sister
Barry Gibb was/is close enough to perfect for me and most of the world. That's why we adore him and the Bee Gees and why their music continues to give endless pleasure to millions everyday. Ditch the pitch correction! When I want to listen to Bee Gees music, I want to hear the real thing! Thanks, Fil!!
I despair, I really do. My grandchildren will never enjoy the real deal . Sad.
@@glynischapman3044It’s just a live performance, not the actual studio songs.
Amen to that!
@@BGWhispererWhat about future releases such as anniversary editions that may contain bonus tracks or alternate takes? Will they remain unsullied?
@@billhunt7862 Most likely. For one, they’re more “perfect” in the studio.
Pitch correction and auto-tune are such appalling insults to great vocalists!!! I'd love to see them both banned forever - or at the very least require huge disclaimers on any music that is ruined with those horrendous technologies. Thanks, Fil, for posting this analysis.
Tack it on as an amendment to the AI related legislation.
@@redneckcoder That's a great idea!!
This is so crazy. I wonder what Barry Gibb thinks about this. His voice is already perfect as it is.
Its such a shame that singers aren't able to have their own genuine voices. Do the artists like Barry have any say over what is done to their recordings. Do the producers make money when they do the pitch perfect stuff. Thanks for bringing this to our attention. The way we can help is not buying the products these producers alter.
I don't care for the digitally remastered songs either! All of this weird technology is crazy. Guess I'm old but I don't care .They are messing with a real musical genius and a true living legend when they tamper with Sir Barry's wonderful pitch perfect voice!!!
Barry’s fans have been loving his voice for fifty years. We don’t want his voice changed. I’m glad that I have some Bee Gees CDs.
Absolutely! 100 percent correct!!
@@brcfan9Yep, you're exactly right!
I have some CDs too. And I'm keeping them!
Yes, and truly makes me more committed to buy vinyl too haha
The Bee Gees prove their greatness once again❤❤❤ I hope Barry sees this video.
Watch out for the Barry Gibb scammers! 😉
Watch he’s gonna say he lip sings it good gosh what does it matter nit pick nit pick someone s underwear bust be to tight lol.
For whatever reason this makes me cry. He’s one of the most talented beautiful people and to correct his perfection is criminal.
The irony "Cause we're living in a world of fools, breaking us down. When they all should let us be" Exactly, Barry.
So called “perfection” isn’t what we crave. We want authenticity, because it’s becoming much more rare in everything now.
And as Fil says, it's the nuances in his voice that make it great.
The sad thing is the fact that the recording industry feels we want this. Or, perhaps they don't care what we prefer.
Yeah - they don’t care
I think they think that most people either won't be able to tell the difference, or won't care, and they'll still be able to sell lots of glossy new "remastered" recordings to a clueless public.
Ultimately it's all just about money.
It is because we have a whole generation that has grown up listening to autouned music their whole lives and know nothing else. They think natural singing voices suck. It has been the industry standard for years now.
@@crunchyfrog63I can tell the difference more in the pitch corrected version than in the original, live version. PC is too sanitized; takes the life out of music.
This is what you will like, and by the way, you will own nothing and be happy! Courtesy of the Davis crowd.
"Keep hold of all your old recordings because we don't know where this stops." Oh, had I only known this 15 years ago!
I have nearly everything on vinyl and CD and DVD. I will never let them go!
No kidding. I got rid of my DVD and CD players years ago, along with all my movies and albums, because we really needed to save space wherever we could. Besides, I thought at the time, everything's available online anyway. 😕
Me, too!@@ExpeditionAndromeda
It stops with all music being written and performed by A.I. Probably. Sad times.
His vocals, to my ears, were perfectly, beautifully balanced without the completely unnecessary pitch correction! I mean, really…why bother when these artists will always be one of the best vocal groups in musical history?? Thanks for sharing this with us. You’re doing the right thing to focus on the original performances of great singers like the BeeGees.
How dare they! Just absolutely disgusting. The arrogance to think anyone can "correct" the perfect Bee Gees amazing voices, harmonies and musical genius. Barry Gibb, my idol for 50 years.
That's what happened when you sign a deal with a record label. They owned all the artist's works and can do whatever they want with them. Luckily, with today's access, an artist can go full independent and be as pure as they wanted.
What an excellent purposeful channel.
‘living in a world of fools’, nailed it, love love love your channel!!
but its not going to change anything, the genz generation dont care about originality.
I’m still struggling with “and you come to me on a submarine”…
@@Mute_Nostril_AgonyLol😂
It's like adding brush strokes to the Mona Lisa to turn her smile into a cheeky grin.
Those three voices in harmony are the artistry. Unfortunately, some people think what's important is the product, not the artistry.
Would love to hear Barry's take on this.
I’m by no means a professional musician, (I play piano at church 😊), but I feel like you are doing something so very important that we should all pay attention to your channel. I fear we are losing generations of natural, beautiful singers.
Indeed! I was in church this past Sunday listening to one of the singers whose voice I really love. The thought actually entered my mind... what if she's fake? I'm not saying she is or that I'm even suspecting she is! I'm just saying that I've now become so used to being lied to that the idea is apparently already in the back of my mind, ready to pop up even in situations where I am not intentionally thinking about it. It makes me sad. And it makes me feel sick.
@Yesica1993 I wish I knew how to do what Fil does!
I am still gobsmacked that anyone would hear the Bee Gees and think to themselves, "That needs a touch-up." This music was so popular and ubiquitous that it was practically like nitrogen: it was omnipresent. Car radios were devices that filled the car with Bee Gees music. They were so talented and fantastic at their jobs that they achieved a potentially life-ruining level of fame and had a crazy number of #1 hits both from them and work they wrote and produced for others -- doesn't that prove that their music doesn't need to get fkked with?
And now that the industry has insisted on moving us all off of physical media and onto the electron-rental model of music access, the original versions will be gone eventually. Even the archival versions will get destroyed eventually if the giant pile of money called the recording industry wants it done.
I don't even listen to music anymore. If I want to hear it, I either make it or I read the sheet music and hear it in my head in perfect fidelity.
I keep reading people that say what you do...That producers hear an old vocal and think, "it needs to be fixed." I really don't think that's the case. I think they do it because it has become standard practice. A singer like Ariana Grande has a more naturally accurate pitch than any of the Gibbs, but all her recordings are pitch-corrected, too. I hate it as much as you do, but it's the mindset of doing it all the same.
@@trekkiejunkhow do you know she's more accurate than the Beegees- all music today is pitched corrected/auto tuned within an inch of it's life and as for 'live' that too!
I've still got my huge (300+) album collection.
Vinyl is still the absolute best.
Could it be that because so many modern "singers" (read: hyped artists that need to be elevated to star-level) are so heavily pitch-corrected that they, producers ánd record-companies, feel that the voices of the real talents from the past need to be pitch-corrected to avoid the new "stars" voices falling way short in comparisons?
I mean: if you want to sell "the greatest new male voice since Barry Gibb" and in an analysis the sound of Gibb's voice wipes the floor with that of the new "talent" because it ISN'T pitch-corrected, it's easier to pitch-correct Gibb's voice than having the new "talent" putting in lessons and effort to improve his voice to the level of Gibb's voice. Because to me that's all what pitch-correction is about: making people who have at best mediocre voices sound like they have top voices simply because they HAVE to be seen as top talents.
Back in the '80's and '90's we had what was called the Euro-pop scene: music that was heavily synthesizer based that featured voices of people who couldn't really sing. It was said back then that if you had money and wanted to cut a record, you went to special producers like Giorgio Moroder, who had a whole trickbag of massaging, polishing and hiding the mediocrity of your voice. Moroder was a genius, who used all kinds of techniques, like multiple overdubs, having the synthesizers mask the voice at critical moments and a pumping beat to further drown out all kinds of imperfections. Modern day studios have taken it to another level and for music enthusiasts it becomes harder and harder to really enjoy music, as everything sounds so sterile.
They are not doing this to the Bee Gees but to Sir Barry Gibb.
AWESOME!!! Thank you so much for the follow-up on this. I'ts not enough that they want to robotisize new music, they have to go back and destroy the real music of the past?!?!?
10:47 well they just completely destroyed Barry's unique singing style. He doesn't complete certain sounds. Like the song Run To Me, when he sings "Am I unwise, to open up your eyes to love me." When he sings unwise and eyes, he cuts off the sound from his voice, and then hits a sort of silent "s". and in this phrase here, he cuts off the sound before he hits the very top of the note, but he does that intentionally. To a computer, it sounds incomplete, or maybe a little flat. To music lovers, it just sounds like Sir Barry Alan Crompton-F'ing-Gibb. I just can't believe this. It's heart breaking. I shudder to think who's/what's next.
Superb points.
Yes, this is Sir Barry's own unique singing style and his fans have loved and recognized it going on 60 years now. These people should be ashamed changing this real living legend's beautiful voice and technique. Sacrilegious!!!😡😡😡
I am so glad I lived through the 70s and 80s. I figured I wouldn’t live long enough to see pitch correction of The Bee Gees but here we are.
Not good enough?? Hogwash! Barry Gibb's voice was perfect. And full of emotion. Needed no correction. 4:43
I could listen to them acapella all day.
As most things are about "transparency," I think any recording that has been pitch corrected or auto tuned ought to stipulate this on the packaging. We are buying records, believing them to be trye representations of the artists voice, under false pretences! It's such a deceitful and (for the majority of singers) totally unnecessary practice.
Knowing this gem of information has certainly altered my opinions of the music industry!!
Thank You, Thank You, Thank You. I really appreciate you and your awesome channel 👏👏👏👏👏👏❤️
I am so thankful that my parents were into music! They have passed down to me all of their vinal collection of the best music ever made! I have the complete collection of BeeGee music, The Beatles, and all of the iconic singers of that time period! All before the atrocious pitch correction and auto tune! The BeeGees definitely need no help from anyone with their vocals! Nice analysis video, Fil! Well done! 💜
This is talking about a live performance, not the albums. Just saying.
@@BGWhisperer I am very well aware of what Fil is talking about! I have been following him for years and supporting him as a patren! Fil knows that I know what he is showing us and talking about!
@@BGWhisperer Saying what?
@@BGWhispererHow is this relevant?
@@crunchyfrog63 Thank you! Fellow Winger
You are the best reaction channel! Your smile i love when you listen to the music! The Bee Gees are absolutely fabulous! Still have a crush on Barry all of these years later! I'm also a Roy Clark and Glen Campbell fan! Thank you for including them on your videos! You are great!
I'm still crushing on Barry!♥️
@@kthor Omg! Me too! Still love him! Too much heaven especially! His tight pants! Swoon! Lol
@@elaineh7993 Yep! Such a hot guy!
Fil has stated before that this is NOT a “reaction channel”, it’s an analysis channel. I think it minimizes it to lower this to the status of a reaction channel.
I instantly hit like on any video before I even watch them. Fil's channel is a service to mankind!!!
Seen one of his vids and you've seen them all. He plays on his elderly followers nostalgia for the music of their youth, and your sense of superiority about the music from back in the day. It's a very lucrative gimmick for Phil - who is a talentless singer himself.
@@TombCat who poked your button there?
Fil also offers modern track analysis...
Hi Fil, I can't understand for the life of me why the music companies would pitch correct the voices of singers whose voices are perfect enough just the way they are! I love the Bee Gees, and their voices blend beautifully together. There's no need for pitch correction there. I hope something can be done about auto tune and pitch correction in the future! Thank you, Fil, for this very interesting and informative analysis! You are incredibly amazing! Rock!
It is interesting indeed why, you would think that is extra effort, labour, costs ....
Funny, that whoever pitch corrects these artists, thinks it will make them sound better and we will like them even more! Lol We already love them, and know how talented they are. !We have already loved their music for years!!
@@Lilah1754 I can imagine two things: 1) their market research showed that pitch-corrected sells better / expected by new generation 2) It is a step in a standard processing pipeline, so that they do not even have a second thought. Get recording, send to one department, another department, pitch correcting department, factory for production
Even if they weren't perfect, once they are released, and absorbed by fans a certain way, the vocals shouldn't be changed. I love New Order, and Bernard Sumner might have the worst voice i've ever heard on a pitch perspective. Still, if they pitch-corrected all his old vocals, it wouldn't be the same music anymore.
@@dmitripogosian5084 -- I seriously doubt the VAST majority of under 40-somethings can even hear pitch correction to begin with. Beyond that, we're also assuming that if they hear old recordings, they would be able to tell that they are not pitch-corrected, and then reject them. That's a lot of leaps in assumption about the music consumption of the young.
That sharp note by Barry is not „off“ due to being sharp, but rather part of an intentional (!) form of artistic expression - a rising-and-falling curve or tonal arch that must exceed the upper peak much like a roller coaster that gives one the feeling of rising up and out of one‘s seat before plunging. The backing vocals do something similar, and perhaps they were even mirroring each other in that, and aiming for a similar rise and fall. It feels (in the original), like a kind of ecstatic, very human sigh. Gluing that to the line removes the drama from this musical event that is actually essential to the sound and feel of the original!!!! That section is kind of like an intended over-the-mark release of energy that then falls off in a very natural way. Don‘t you hear it that way, too? Many songs depend on this effect of intentionally overshooting a mark in order to increase emotional impact and leave the listener hanging on for more.
I was just saying the same thing only you put it better. It’s not a mistake and clearly adds character to the phrase, which they have removed.
Excellent description! You really captured the way I feel when they “overshoot” the mark. 👍🏻
Beautifully said. It is deliberate intention to lower frequencies. How tragic that youth of today will not experience that thrill and euphoria that music can give. We have been so privileged to have known the beauty of music and how it can pull at our heartstrings, it’s pleasure is beyond words.
Another layer of sadness descends upon the earth. Our vinyls are becoming priceless treasured possessions.
Beautifully expressed. I agree. Thank you. I hope the BeeGees channel reads these comments.
GREAT comment
I work in IT. I had a conversation with someone today who was worried about something that wasn't broken, but MIGHT break. My exact words to him: "why would we want to fix something, that isn't broken?" I guess music producers have forgotten that ancient wisdom.
I mean, that applies to only SOME things. If there are major cracks in a bridge, you don't wait until the bridge collapses before you fix it. (Well, maybe in America we do.) If the brakes on your car are getting worn, but they still work, you don't wait until they are bald. You fix it. When your tooth gets a tiny cavity, you don't wait until your tooth is rotten. You plug that hole and fix it. --- This is nothing against the pitch-correction argument. I hate it too. This is just about the ancient wisdom.
@@trekkiejunk,
He said “might break,” not that any sign of wear or weakness was found. He might’ve been working with an OCD worrier.
There’s a reason that we still say “if it’s not broken, don’t try to fix it”.
@@trekkiejunkAll of those are examples of things that actually are broken, so don't qualify for, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"...
Why isn't he worried about breaking it when replacing it? Why does he think the new one won't break?
💯 agreed. That's the problem with people today. It's not only music. It's past generation movies, shows and comic book heroes.
It's a shame that these great voices are no longer good enough. This is like a masterpiece painting that someone uses crayons on to "correct ", when they manipulate the voice
Great analogy!
I'm not convinced that they think "he's not good enough." I'm guessing that it's more about standard industry practice. Remember, they pitch correct young singers with tremendous natural voices who are nearly pitch perfect already. Ariana Grande is not my type of music in the least, but her real voice is incredible. But due to standard practice, all her recordings are still pitch-corrected.
@@trekkiejunk "standard practice" is abhorrent. 😢
Let's voices be voices. Simple as.
Sounds like it's more a fault of her producers than her.
It's also just a waste of time and resources. Someone was paid to "correct" something that maybe a billion+ people had enjoyed without issue, and actively loved. Why? Who benefits? Who is this for? What difference does it make when the pitch is already this close and they're losing something else in the process? It's truly mind-boggling to think what people perceive is being achieved here, when instead they could just... not? It genuinely is like someone "correcting" a Van Gogh that people have been enjoying for a century with zero ill-effects. Not only is it profoundly weird, it's also artistically void.
Thank you Fil. I guess I'm more appreciative of music archives now that you have to get original recordings from them. Thank God that the archives are safe from manipulation for now. ROCK.🎸🎵🤘
Not even George Orwell could've predicted this, but it is in character with everything he did.
That off note/correction you found, just got a producer fired!! Well done, Fil! Cheers.
Your pioneering work and influence will prove pivotal in saving real music for the future. This is not an overstatement.
I love Barry's natural voice and the original version. I had the oportunitty to see the bee gees live in 1991 in Spain
Love your work. You’re brilliant.
Saw them live in '78 by accident and was a fan ever since. True masters. Thank you for this breakdown.
Wish I had these types of accidents. 😂 Mine usually involve me calling my insurance company. What a wonderful experience that must have been!!
Respect. Which I have for this channel, but those people don't have for the music.
On the other hand, now when I miss a note, I just call it my style. 😋
I wish Barry was sitting at your side during this video to witness & comment. He's still with us & his input & observations would be invaluable. And yes, I have vintage Bee Gees vinyl & CD's.
It really is getting crazy now. Great update as always Fil
THIS. The analysis to end all debate over the ridiculousness of pitch correction. Perfect line by line comparison showing production treachery. Well done, Mr. Fil!
Trying to correct Barry Gibbs voice is an insult to humanity. I love a bit of imperfection. Its human.
Love you, Fil. Love your analysis. Please keep fighting for the original and the genuine. Everyone is completely sick of the fake and phony.
I am on a Bee Gees binge, so I thought your video was an old one. Funny how things sometimes happen. Thank you for educating people on what actual singers and musicians used to do. Hopefully this trend of trying to "correct" everything stops soon.
Barry's voice needed nothing. It seems an almost OCD to fix what's not broken. Amazing investigative research you've done Fil, and superb videos. Thank You for revealing how live music is processed now & and exposing the "wizards" who foolishly alter the bio fingerprint of amazing singers... creating a robotic version of an organic sound. You're the best Fil. Any negativity just write-off because you won't change the cult's mind. Look forward to much more extraordinary content from WOP.
It’s ridiculous, Barry doesn’t need no “ correction” his voice is pretty close to perfect. I been a fan since -75
It's examples like this that make me happy that I've hung on to my original vinyl records and CDs over the years. Thanks for the great comparative analysis, Fil! ❤
Hold tightly onto those vinyl copies of the *Saturday Night Fever* soundtrack you bought back in 1977.
I always loved Barry Gibbs voice and BeeGees harmonies. What a talent to have. I can’t hit a note. I play this song on guitar finger style.
Thank you to the person who sent this precious archive performance from Barry and the other Gibb brothers. Thank you Fil for doing this important video. So heartbreaking they would do this to ruin such an important recording. You are the GOAT!
We should create a sticker like 'The music on this CD has not been Pitch corrected!'
We? You mean music labels. And it can't just be on CD's. Everything is online now, so it would need to be everywhere, including individual songs.
@@trekkiejunk,
The PMRC did it for explicit lyrics. It would be easy to label as “organic” (versus Melodyned).
OMG! I am 67 and to my ear, the way these 3 sung was impeccable. I hate these darn record companies that must pitch/auto correct everything. Seriously, I absolutely dislike the idea that everything MUST BE perfect. Good grief. LEAVE IT ALONE! Fil, question! Do the singer have a say in how their voice sounds ie engineers, producers, to leave their voice as they are?
Thank you for another great video.
Like many have said, the way the music industry, or any media industry generally, does things like this is crazy.
I feel like pitch "correcting" takes away from the emotion and artistry that was being created by men and women like Barry Gibb.
Thanks so much, Fil, for that national archives link! Just watched the Bee Gees live in concert on my semi-big screen tv with attached BOSE speaker (that's the extent of my tech know-how, ahem) and it was pure joy. Not only did it sound terrific but knowing that it was indeed the best version of the Bee Gees and that we weren't being deprived of the full pleasure of their natural voices by way of pitch correction made the experience an infinitely joyful one.
While listening, I couldn't help but consider all that we have lost and continue to lose at the control panels of producers who no longer hear music with their ears but only see it with their eyes and it actually brought tears to mine. We simply cannot let the practice of pitch correcting and/or auto-tuning the natural voices of great singers continue with impunity. Come on, real music lovers and artists with integrity! Are we ready to fight back!!!?
Guess in future I'll be spending some time delving into the music section of the Internet Archive and loving every minute of it. That is, when I'm not doing my part in the coming revolution to change the sad trajectory of the music industry before the sheer artistry of a great singer's expressive and emotion-filled natural human voice is lost forever. Thanks again, Fil, for all that you are doing in a valiant effort to preserve and protect the real music we have loved for so long.
Now that it is known that these other/original versions exist, the powers that be, will demand the removal of the originals from those and other archives!
Not a "national" archive. Fil got that wrong.
The Internet Archive, a 501(c)(3) non-profit, is building a digital library of Internet sites and other cultural artifacts in digital form. Like a paper library, we provide free access to researchers, historians, scholars, people with print disabilities, and the general public. Our mission is to provide Universal Access to All Knowledge.
@@johnrussell6620 I just this very instant had a nightmarish thought along that line. But, that will only happen if we let it. Do you think we could recruit Barry Gibb - and other like minds - in the effort to make this issue known to much, much, much wider audience than Fil's subscribers. Perhaps what we need here is an act of Congress. (is there already a law against tampering with anything in the archives???) But, our numbers will have to increase substantially first. There are still only 10,000 sigs on Fil's petition so you know it's going to be a tough slog but well worth the fight!
can I give a shout out to the now late Robin Gibb, amazing singer. his singing on Wedding day, for whom the bell tolls and alone, absolutely perfect, to mention three songs, the rest, magical too.
I wasn't born when this was performed, so I feel incredibly grateful to be able to hear these original recordings of my favourite artists. Seeing what producers are doing to manipulate original performances makes me angry.
Fil, those handy notices under the recording we were currently hearing was an excellent idea. Really made it clear 👍
By the way, my spouse isn't much into music theory, but I've told him about your videos, trying to explain to him the best I can what you're showing and hearing. I didn't think he was "getting it," but then yesterday, he said, "You MUST listen to the new Boy George version of Bronsky Beat's "Smalltown Boy." He said it didn't sound anything like Boy George. So I took a listen, and it's SO manipulated, it almost sounds like T-Pain or Cher. If I'd heard it without knowing, I would never guess it was Boy George singing. At least your lessons are spreading. Admittedly, it's much more distorted than this unneeded pitch correction, but at least someone not used to listening that closely to songs can identify the process. I was so proud of him! And thanks to you for helping me explain it.
You've just ruined my day. I got excited, for about 2 seconds, for a Boy George version of Small-town Boy, then I read the rest of your comment.
I had just responded to someone else who mentioned him, that I'd be heartbroken if I ever heard a pitch corrected BG vocal. I've seen him live 3 times, and his voice comes as close to perfect as you can get. He really was one of the very best voices to come out of the 80's.
Appreciate your channel and amazing analysis. This is simply criminal. Many blessings Fil.
"Correcting" their authentic original work of human artistry is insulting.
Phil, I enjoy your passion for musical integrity not only for purity but also your respect for each performer’s personal qualities they express in their music. BTW, you have a great smile.
Vocals from the past are so offensively human and natural they must be "corrected"? We thought we were hearing the most amazingly creative stuff ever when leaned into our radios or hovered over our turntables, breathless and thrilled! Silly us in our platform shoes. Thank goodness we now get to hear how it REALLY should have gone down! (Thank you, Fil, for exposing this artistic destruction!)
I don't think that's why they do this. It's become so standard to pitch-correct everything in modern music, it just becomes automatic for doing it to old recordings. It has nothing to do with judgment on the past. Remember, there are singers today who are naturally more accurate pitch-wise than the Gibbs ever were, but they are also pitch-corrected. I hate it, too. But it's just the thing to do now.
@@trekkiejunkIt shouldn't be done.
@@trekkiejunk Of course it's a judgement on past artistic work. It's also a pretty damn serious erasure of historical and cultural artifacts. That's why I was being sarcastic. It is so ubiquitous to do this "correcting" now. How would you know if there are more accurate singers today (naturally) if they are pitch corrected automatically? And how is anything ever "just the thing to do"?
@@ginnyvogel7754,
Thank you. It’s also a waste of time and money to mess with the original recordings. I don’t understand why it’s being done.
Another masterful screw up by the producers to one of the most iconic voices of all time, Barry Gibb. Listening to this through my headset; to my ears sounded perfect!! I mean, "If It Ain't Broke, Don't Fix-It" !! Ugh! Thank you Fil - you presented a brilliant analysis video.
Angela, I agree with you completely! This is so very unnecessary! I have come to despise pitch correction and auto tune! 😢
Thank you so much, Fil. The Bee Gees are my favorite group so this is very disheartening that their official channel is allowing this manipulation of their voices. Obviously, Barry, Robin, and Maurice don't need any "perfecting," because their voices are naturally perfect. I purchased this Australian concert on VHS years ago and wish it was digitized... then again, maybe not.
You can digitize it yourself. I got a multiple media player (vinyl, cassette, CD), with speakers, and Bluetooth, that will convert a recording to a digital file (or vinyl/cassette to CD).
@@SuziQ. Thank you. It's great to know they can be preserved this way.
@@soulaesthete8563 ,
You’re welcome. Some are surprisingly affordable. I spent some time researching the options.
Libraries are a source for borrowing the original vinyl or CD if you don’t have it already. Then burn a copy, and you’ll be set.
YOU are amazing Fil!! I LOVE what you are doing! 💞
Another Great vid, Fil... Thank you
We listen with our ears, not machines. Even people who aren't fans of the Bee Gees' music can agree that there voices are brilliant. Slightly flat or slightly sharp, the natural ear can't hear that, so to us they are perfection! It's so offensive that music producers should think that Barry's voice needs correcting. Thanks for doing this video Fil and sharing with us that the music industry has really taken things too far.
I enjoy your videos so much. I get to know about the science behind singing and recording. ❤ BeeGees lover..
I'm glad you captured the original from 1989, Fil. Keep it for safe keeping, maybe even embed it.
Why in the world would anyone mess with these vocals we already love. I don't understand it! I was the Real! Gibbs? Really? OMG! Glad you're speaking out.
Recently found your channel and I love what you're doing! Except now my ears are very much in tune to these sadly used vocal tools. I've found myself listening more and more to my old albums from the 60's, 70's, 80's. This specific video actually made me cry! The Bee Gees were AMAZING with AMAZING voices!!! That these "idiots" in charge ~whomever they may be ~ actually thought they needed to pitch correct Barry friggin Gibb?!?! It is sacrilege!! Do NOT mess with perfection. WHY? Music has saved me, gotten me through some of the worst things in my life and it's the one thing I can't live without. I just want the powers to be to leave the originals alone. Thank you for all that you do Fil. 💖😊
Their voices still give me goosebumps … and that was live … obviously those “correcting” weren’t listening
You continue to amaze me with your analysis! So great! Thanks!
This is actually the micro view of a major societal problem we are currently facing...Equality is defined as an equal opportunity to use your full talent, resources, skill and, yes, a little luck, to achieve your most fulll potential, and equity is equal outcome, regardles of your effort, talent or skill. If you! can't hit the lines, no problem! We'll hit them for you! And then we'll do it for everyone else, so that everything sounds like it was sung into a tin coffee can. How Wonderful!
Fil, I believe you have found your purpose!
You are truly helping everyone "keep it real."
It's absolutely criminal how technology & $ has ruined the music industry.
Hi Fil,
Great analysis tonight! Especially the side by side vocal comparison. Barry Gibb don’t need no pitch correction….LOL. He is the master of songwriting, singing and performing! Oh and he plays his own instrument. He has given the world so many musical gifts the likes which we may never see again. It is sad they are doing this to this very talented man. Thanks for doing this one! You AreThe Best! Debbie☮️
Don`t fix what isn`t broken.
Fascinating as always Fil. You're quite right too that someone has been looking at waveforms here rather than listening. These vocals are essentially perfect and yet someone has gone in there and fiddled with little bits here and there. Ridiculous.
As someone who shops in second-hand stores, I'll keep my eye out for older CDs. Or tapes--I have a player that does both. If I had a record player, I'd go vinyl!
Brilliant analysis!
So glad I’m old enough to have experienced real talent in its natural state before all this technology became the norm
Do artists really not mind having this done with their music?
If it were me, I'd be wanting to sue any producer or label that manipulated my music like that.
At the very least, a disclaimer should be made that "This music has been corrected", or at most, outlaw the whole process.
Wow. Thank you for your analysis, and im glad we can hear the original at the Internet Archives. You are the coolest geek by the way. 🤓
i got such a man crush on Barry Gibb. Such a stud.
Good man, loving husband. Truly a great role model for any youngman.
Brilliant!!! Thank you for this one and the video before!
The BeeGee’s Do Not EVER need “ correcting”! Blasphemy
Great video Fil! Congrats on 409,000 subs👏 Are music producers trying to justify their jobs? At the same time thinking we don't care.? Keep up the good work. ❤
THANK YOU!!!! 💓💓I thought there was something wrong with my ears.
Your channel is a treasure. Thank you for this. I'm not a huge fan of the Bee Gees--just not my sort of music. But you have to be a true philistine (not a Fil-istine!) not to appreciate Barry Gibb's voice --and you have to be a true philistine to pitch-correct it.
As for him being slightly sharp on those high notes: I think that being slightly sharp there helps emphasize the meaning of the lyric. So it's not at all an "error" that needs correction. He wasn't sharp enough to be wrong; he was just sharp enough to be right in terms of the emotional content of the song. That's a matter of art, not audio engineering.
18:08 - I have the original version. Their "All for One" Tour Live in Australia. I bought it on VHS in 1989 and DVD around 2000
You need to do one on "To Much heaven" bee gees because that's a beautiful & perfect song. If you did this I'm sorry I'm new to your channel & love it, keep up the great work.
Interesting. Keep up the good work.
This was super interesting! Thanks Fil! 😊
I can’t believe that’s a live performance. Phenominal
The one & only Barry Gibb!
Thank you so much for bringing this issue to public attention. I had no idea this was even happening until I came across one of your videos a few weeks ago.
I find it atrocious that this is being done to virtually all contemporary vocal performances, but to do it to performances from years or decades before this technology even existed is pure cultural vandalism.
It's not even a question of whether a performance was "good enough that they don't need it". Art from the past should be respected for what it was and not changed into something different. Just like no one should be taking the Mona Lisa and repainting it to make it "better" or more appealing to current sensibilities.
I certainly hope more people will start taking an interest in this issue.
So sad, especially if we end up losing all the originals of the period, for the beegees and any other artist. How do the BeeGees think this is the right thing to do??? Incredible. Let's see if they manage to correct a voice like Boy George or Marc Almond from back in the day without anyone noticing?? Thanks for all the work Fil!😊
I would cry if I ever heard a pitch corrected Boy George. I've seen him live 3 times, and he's another singer who has as near to a perfect voice as it's possible to get.
@@Terri_MacKay sorry to contradict you just a little. Boy George's unmistakable voice is easily recognized as being "out of tune" many times, or notes being very obviously sung flat. But that's part of his musical charm. That should never be touched by producers, please. That's why I gave the example of him.
@@MarcByrne I agree. His voice certainly has "flaws" but I think he's got one of the most beautiful voices I've ever heard, and I think it's definitely one of the best voices to come out of the 80's. I saw him live before the days of Auto-Tune, and he was amazing in concert.
Just after I left my last reply, I read a comment by someone else who had just heard a version of Smalltown Boy by Boy George where his voice has been manipulated out of all recognition. They said that they wouldn't even have known it was him unless they'd been told.☹️
@@Terri_MacKay oh dear, I'll have to check that awful manipulation out... I hope they stop all this im-perfection one day . Terrible. Thanks for mentioning it
@@Terri_MacKay Just heard a snippet of the beginning of Smalltown Boy, enough, with auto-tune or distorsion or whatever they want to call it. Incredible how artists agree to be produced like that
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Thanks for another great analysis video 🖤🤘🏽
Brilliant analysis.
Your content is investigative journalism.
Some people think the Mona Lisa’s smile is rather crooked. I suppose that needs some tweaking.
I'm just barely into this video, and I have to say, I NEED a Matrix shirt like that!! I saw it on another video you did recently, and I have to go find one and buy it. Very cool. Okay, I'm going to watch the rest of the video now....