JayEmm on Cars Thanks James can’t wait Sir ! Mrs Boggy picks up her M140i next Sunday 😬 That then allows me to have something for myself 👍 your videos are proving very useful 🚗
Have you seen the re3views on this company? The stuff they get up to is absolutely shocking. To entrust such a company with such a problematic car is total financial suicide. If it was a company that had some sort of integrity like Bamford Rose (Aston) seem to have, then I'd be all for it. But the forums are littered with bad stories .. too many for my liking. Obviously this has no reflection on the channel, but I fear the original summation on McLaren's still holds true, and that Thorney will do little to nothing to change that, but they will change your bank account ... significantly!
What a pleasure to hear this talk sense about supercars!!! 4 wheels and a engine, classic. It also shows that as good as McLaren are they cut costs in silly places. I'd do business with this guy any day of the week. Great video, awesome job !!! Your channel is straight forward and honest again this is refreshing. 😁😁😁
The only question I've got is; if they're so reliable, why are there soooo many videos highlighting so many issues from fairly genuine sources like superspeedrob and hoovie ... and not from the hoard of entitled brat channels! . Sure there are many people aiming for clickbait, then there seem to be some genuine customers having genuinely bad times with their cars. ua-cam.com/video/mYuH41qR9IU/v-deo.html
Your channel is turning out some great content and you are managing to deliver unexpected (but very much welcomed!!) content that is varied and interesting. As always looking forward to seeing what your channel will deliver in the future.
I met John many many years ago, not to mention watching him have a stab a BTCC!....top guy, extremely genuine and If was fortunate enough to be able to run one of these machines it is him who I'd go to. Best independents will always knock a main dealer in to a 'cocked hat' in their ability to look after customers and their cars - I worked in the high end motor trade for 13years, so I've seen it with my own eyes! Good luck to Thorney Motorsport.
It's not hard at all, you in US have some of the best shops and tuners in the world. If it was me a proper tuner shop / race car shop will be more than able to help you and learn the tricks and tips. Thorney weren't really known before this, apparently they focused on bimmers and Opels. A shop like bbi or equivalent will learn and know how to develop solutions to any kind of problem in no time.
The most in-depth and honest insight to how these cars are built, and what are the strengths and weaknesses I have ever seen. Definitely without having to own a McLaren and finding out from McLaren that the cost of a gearbox is £17K. Thank you Jay & Thorney Motorsport.
Absolutely loved this video. I always thought the McLaren was a car lotus should have made and in a way they could have as they once had the guys to do it?? What a really nice guy who talked so much sense. When I am in the fortunate position to buy a McLaren I know where my first port of call will be!!
This is a great channel, no b.s. approach for petrol heads with an actual brain. This guy is brilliant, I’m a Ferrari man but would be considering a 570 GT I love that car.
Hang on. The Thorney warranty only covers up to £10,000 per claim. So if a serious engine or gearbox issue happens it's pretty useless compared to a Mclaren one. That's a pretty big omission isn't it?
Ha funny to see that john in still in business. I wouldn't let him touch any of my cars. Was all smiles when we first met. But when I reported issues with my car (at the time a vxl Corsa vxr). He turned into a completely different person.
Exceptional Video James, and great to get some real insight into these cars, Sadly Australia is stuck with Mclaren only service, and gearbox issue alone is a show stopper. Makes the Supercharger on you 400 look cheap.
If you're going to offer a straight through pipe surely you have to have the car remapped at that point. The stock map might actually make it worse. I find if very frustrating that McLaren pretty much do not want anything to do with the second hand market and they still do not offer their diagnostic software to alternative specialist who are prepared to look after these customers who they don't want. Truly disappointing.
Seems like this is what the modern-day esprit should've been. Shame the main dealer network isn't great. Nice to see an independent who knows what they're talking about and seem really genuine
I wish you guys were in the USA-- preferably in Arizona. But without you, I'm too scared of potential repair costs. Will have to settle for a Porsche C4s or Nissan GTR.
Totally brilliant video. Up to now we have kept well away from these cars going for Ferraris, Aston Martins, and Bentleys you have in a single video Changed my view on this great British manufacturer.
Very interesting video, maybe owners/potential owners would'nt be so frightened if there were more indi's who could work on these cars and McLaren shared their diagnostics with great companies like Throney....
Great video. I’ve considered at 12c in the past but have been put off by stories of epic servicing, repair and warranty costs going directly with McLaren servicing. Really impressed with Thorney’s approach and extensive knowledge of the cars. Got me thinking that a McLaren could be a viable next car
I have owned a 12C for 3 years and it has been fairly faultless and by far the best car I have owned. £5K in servicing and £7k in extended warranty that I won't be bothering with as it had £3K in bits in that time. Don't listen to the doom mongers, John is speaking from experience of multiple cars and not 1 bad one.
I seen a retro hybrid kit for 350z that adds 200bhp.Given McLaren are a good daily and all models have the same engine I think this would be perfect match.A 30 mile electric only range whilst taking daily stress off engine and gearbox.Ever consider developing this type of kit essentially turning a regular McLaren into a P1?
even if i won the lotto i could not entertain one of these . hit a pothole and the alignment goes out really . gearbox puking oil and thats except able to the oem and the cheap and nasty fuel line clips , This guy is doing a great job but he should not have to fix these thing it should be addressed by the manufacturer
Used F types in the US are beginning to get 'reasonable' in price, would be interested to know what mechanics think of them what ate the things to look out for and the cost of ownership is like. That said, these Thornley videos were great content, even I have no chance of owning those types of supercars.
The best car information video I’ve ever watched !
Top Work Mr Thorney
You'll love tomorrow's upload
JayEmm on Cars
Thanks James can’t wait Sir !
Mrs Boggy picks up her M140i next Sunday 😬
That then allows me to have something for myself 👍 your videos are proving very useful 🚗
Have you seen the re3views on this company? The stuff they get up to is absolutely shocking. To entrust such a company with such a problematic car is total financial suicide. If it was a company that had some sort of integrity like Bamford Rose (Aston) seem to have, then I'd be all for it. But the forums are littered with bad stories .. too many for my liking.
Obviously this has no reflection on the channel, but I fear the original summation on McLaren's still holds true, and that Thorney will do little to nothing to change that, but they will change your bank account ... significantly!
What a pleasure to hear this talk sense about supercars!!! 4 wheels and a engine, classic.
It also shows that as good as McLaren are they cut costs in silly places.
I'd do business with this guy any day of the week.
Great video, awesome job !!! Your channel is straight forward and honest again this is refreshing. 😁😁😁
The only question I've got is; if they're so reliable, why are there soooo many videos highlighting so many issues from fairly genuine sources like superspeedrob and hoovie ... and not from the hoard of entitled brat channels! . Sure there are many people aiming for clickbait, then there seem to be some genuine customers having genuinely bad times with their cars. ua-cam.com/video/mYuH41qR9IU/v-deo.html
Your channel is turning out some great content and you are managing to deliver unexpected (but very much welcomed!!) content that is varied and interesting. As always looking forward to seeing what your channel will deliver in the future.
I met John many many years ago, not to mention watching him have a stab a BTCC!....top guy, extremely genuine and If was fortunate enough to be able to run one of these machines it is him who I'd go to.
Best independents will always knock a main dealer in to a 'cocked hat' in their ability to look after customers and their cars - I worked in the high end motor trade for 13years, so I've seen it with my own eyes! Good luck to Thorney Motorsport.
Brilliant. Thanks for posting this. Now if we only had service like this in the states, perhaps McLaren ownership might be a realistic proposition.
It's not hard at all, you in US have some of the best shops and tuners in the world. If it was me a proper tuner shop / race car shop will be more than able to help you and learn the tricks and tips. Thorney weren't really known before this, apparently they focused on bimmers and Opels. A shop like bbi or equivalent will learn and know how to develop solutions to any kind of problem in no time.
The most in-depth and honest insight to how these cars are built, and what are the strengths and weaknesses I have ever seen. Definitely without having to own a McLaren and finding out from McLaren that the cost of a gearbox is £17K. Thank you Jay & Thorney Motorsport.
I love proper tuning engineering companies like Thorney. I really admire that ethos of replacing the corners that the manufacturer cut.
One of the best videos I have seen on UA-cam - thank you!!! I’m buying a 12c and will definitely be taking it to Thorney for a PPI!!!
Absolutely loved this video. I always thought the McLaren was a car lotus should have made and in a way they could have as they once had the guys to do it??
What a really nice guy who talked so much sense. When I am in the fortunate position to buy a McLaren I know where my first port of call will be!!
I own a VX220 with ITBs. I can't say how pleased I am to hear someone compare my car to a McLaren :)
I like this mans business acumen. Have to start looking down the back of the sofa to get them hose clips and start my mclaren ownership from there 🥺
It's amazing and disappointing that McLaren were so tight when it comes to silly things like hose clips.
Exceptional. If only all businesses were run this professionally.
This is a great channel, no b.s. approach for petrol heads with an actual brain. This guy is brilliant, I’m a Ferrari man but would be considering a 570 GT I love that car.
Great video mate, the best so far
Superb, informative video, many thanks, that guy is a class act.
Fantastic. When I get a 12C, this will be my very first port of call.
expect to spend 100k on maintenance in 6 years of owning a 12c.
or £8K like I have ;)
Hang on. The Thorney warranty only covers up to £10,000 per claim. So if a serious engine or gearbox issue happens it's pretty useless compared to a Mclaren one. That's a pretty big omission isn't it?
Ha funny to see that john in still in business. I wouldn't let him touch any of my cars.
Was all smiles when we first met. But when I reported issues with my car (at the time a vxl Corsa vxr). He turned into a completely different person.
Exceptional Video James, and great to get some real insight into these cars, Sadly Australia is stuck with Mclaren only service, and gearbox issue alone is a show stopper.
Makes the Supercharger on you 400 look cheap.
Love McLaren - don’t like the repair bill’s thou 😂👍
Interesting that Lotus guys did the design👌
Truly like then even more now
Followed thorney for years with their work on the vxr platform, very highly commended in the community.
"we havn't seen a straight mclaren yet" hahaaahaa
Some great information, great video looking forward for the next part
Absolutely wonderful content!
If you're going to offer a straight through pipe surely you have to have the car remapped at that point. The stock map might actually make it worse.
I find if very frustrating that McLaren pretty much do not want anything to do with the second hand market and they still do not offer their diagnostic software to alternative specialist who are prepared to look after these customers who they don't want. Truly disappointing.
JAY WOW BUDDY THIS IS WHAT WE LIKE TO WATCH
Seems like this is what the modern-day esprit should've been. Shame the main dealer network isn't great. Nice to see an independent who knows what they're talking about and seem really genuine
I wish you guys were in the USA-- preferably in Arizona. But without you, I'm too scared of potential repair costs. Will have to settle for a Porsche C4s or Nissan GTR.
Nice to know there is support available
Brilliant video, looking forward to the next!
Totally brilliant video. Up to now we have kept well away from these cars going for Ferraris, Aston Martins, and Bentleys you have in a single video Changed my view on this great British manufacturer.
Very interesting video, maybe owners/potential owners would'nt be so frightened if there were more indi's who could work on these cars and McLaren shared their diagnostics with great companies like Throney....
Excellent video!! Mr Thorney has his shit together. A very constructive video. well done mate.
Excellent news... McLaren is well worth the bucks, even an old one.
Absolute gold this guy really really knows his stuff,
That warranty, great value 👍🏼
Transparency in the auto industry? This man is an alien.
WELL THIS GUY KNOWS HIS STUFF GREAT VIDEO ALL THE BEST TO THORNEY MOTORSPORT
Great video. I’ve considered at 12c in the past but have been put off by stories of epic servicing, repair and warranty costs going directly with McLaren servicing. Really impressed with Thorney’s approach and extensive knowledge of the cars. Got me thinking that a McLaren could be a viable next car
Yup, that is why I wanted to do the video
I have owned a 12C for 3 years and it has been fairly faultless and by far the best car I have owned. £5K in servicing and £7k in extended warranty that I won't be bothering with as it had £3K in bits in that time. Don't listen to the doom mongers, John is speaking from experience of multiple cars and not 1 bad one.
I seen a retro hybrid kit for 350z that adds 200bhp.Given McLaren are a good daily and all models have the same engine I think this would be perfect match.A 30 mile electric only range whilst taking daily stress off engine and gearbox.Ever consider developing this type of kit essentially turning a regular McLaren into a P1?
wish this guy was in the states
Great watch John! Very good video
amazing review .... I would prefer to buy a Mc Claren from this guy as opposed to a main dealer...
Bruce McLaren would be offended by that spelling :(
Great video. Subscribed.
I had a vx220 😁
What a great explanation ....thanks
Brilliant stuff!
I feel so much better knowing if my gearbox input shaft fails I’ll only be out 10k and not 17k.
17K plus fitting! That ends up as ten grand better off, not bad
As a Engineer McLaren talk a load off bollox, about time someone talks straight. Thorney!
Very enjoyable video 👍 now where is my copy autotrader
Very impressed by this guy, wish I could afford one, I’d buy from him if he sold them.
This guy knows his stuff.
Credible , honest and nice .
5 mins in
It would be good to know what they found on dyno between 95 & 98 ron fuel.
How can 2 people dislike this video????
The statement that Mclaren chassis is just one is not entirely accurate.
Awesome video. Awesome businessman.
I might own a 12C if Thorney Motorsport was in Arizona USA.
What I learned of this video is that Mclaren is indeed the Apple of car world.
I don't understand how/why the car can't be dyno'd, esp since he said he can replicate a dyno on the road.
The software knew the car was on a Dyno and would not cooperate
Good video
great video
McLaren are like Aston Martin used to be with vantage db9 vanquish all the same car underneath same engine gearbox
ahahahah i thought this was a new upload for some reason and i was sat there thinking i swear ive seen this before
even if i won the lotto i could not entertain one of these . hit a pothole and the alignment goes out really . gearbox puking oil and thats except able to the oem and the cheap and nasty fuel line clips , This guy is doing a great job but he should not have to fix these thing it should be addressed by the manufacturer
Potholes knocking alignment out is hardly unique to McLaren
Any referrals for Someone like yourself here in the US.
0,75 video speed, are easiery to listen and understand.
Really interesting guys
So, my VX220 is a Mclaren @ 5:30 :D :D :D
There's plenty of people needed to do McLaren fixing by all accounts
Top bloke
Impressive bloke
Great idea for a video. Please find a Jaguar indie mechanic to put on a video.
Anything in particular you want to know about?
Used F types in the US are beginning to get 'reasonable' in price, would be interested to know what mechanics think of them what ate the things to look out for and the cost of ownership is like. That said, these Thornley videos were great content, even I have no chance of owning those types of supercars.
HOW BOUT STATES IN FUTURE. are clutches reliable and last 80K? not like lambo...kevlar clutch?
I am not a fan of John Thorne. A lot of what he said about the vx220 and his racing career using them is just pure fantasy.
Don't these things break all the time?
What kind of idiot would buy a McLaren expecting it to be cheap to run?
A Porsche owner
Great video... a little too 'salesy'?
Any fans of Hoovies Garage here?
A few have stopped by!
@@JayEmmOnCars Tyler's mechanic is good but he's not Thorney good. I hope it works out for him.
Great video btw!
Thankyou
Thorney More Affordable
A company that sells a 200 000 pound car and put the cheapest possible clips in it ?
And the cars is not straight.WTF.
Is the company run by idiots ?
Not first‼️👎🏻
No wonder why the English almost lost the war. Ya can't and they can't understand what they're saying.
Says the commentator who types "ya".......followed by a load of nonsense.
@@EvoraGT430 - lol
Some great information, great video looking forward for the next part