Getting Out Of The Army | During AIT
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- Опубліковано 19 вер 2018
- What happens when you fail out of an MOS during AIT? Well, Robby talks about his experience here. Enjoy!
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Great video guys. Best of luck to both, I'm still debating if I want to go back and try it again (if I clear waivers) but the short lived experience I had in the army was great.
So technically he could have re-enlisted if he wanted to. That's pretty neat. Good video guys!
Yepp I also talked about that in my video on switching mos' recently
Not reenlist- reclass. He didn't even mention what was allegedly offered to him here. My guess is he said he wanted to get out before even knowing what his reclass options are--- because as he says he really just wanted out to chase videography and money.
Some misinformation here: You cannot just reenlist with an honorable. It depends on your RE code and if you are granted a waiver (AND the reason you got out, SEP codes etc). And you have to find a recruiter willing to work with you. It's not that easy.
I wish the dude the best but he really should have reclassed, served his 3 years (or whatever his contract was), and sucked it up. He still could have done videography as soon as he got through that AIT. The unknown is scary though.
So best of luck.
Hey Matt. I’ve watched all of your videos & follow you on IG. Youve got some great material. Idk if you’ll get to me. But, my niece is in boot camp right now. She’ll graduate in June. She is shy & very meek & a very religious girl. I know I’m going to get bashed on here but, she went to join the reserves & ended up enlisting for 4yrs. The army isn’t for her. She’s trying her hardest. But she’s miserable. Recruiter told her it was too late to back out. I wish I would of found you before she even left. ELS sounds good for her. But I know she would want to do the reserves. Is that truly possible? I don’t know who to believe on here. Also, when do your days start? I see that it had to be within the 180 to be able to do ELS. Also, who would she speak to to help her with this transition? Thank you for all you do on here. I know as a mom & her aunt its very time consuming. God Bless
@@MattWard89 how long did his paperwork take? The entire chaptering process ?
Hello Matt thank you for making these videos. I'm going to basic training in the next month and your videos are really helpful. Hoping,I dont get a 6 hr smoke session like you did, but if it happens the it'll happen
KingKazma16 smoke sessions are a lot shorter but they do seem like they last that long.
There was a dude on reddit just last week that failed two AIT's, reclassed twice and finally graduated on the third one- spent 17 months in TRADOC...lol.
This is why people refuse to train.
Appreciate the insight-Oldest in AIT but struggling w/PT run time etc-we're advising and encouraging best we can but it's on him and he knows that. He dropped the "d" word the other day and coincidentally this just aired on "what his options are now" THX!
Excellent Vid. It’s not uncommon to have many individuals get discharged in AIT for any amount of reasons. There is a time period that they will not allow you to reenlist. However, most are Honorable Discharges. Obviously in his case he wanted out, he’s pretty bright, the Army doesn’t care.
Nice video and thanks for the info
Pro tip: you travel with what you bring/buy, in A.I.T. you will have battle buddies that buy everything and try to sell it all realizing they dont have the space to take it all, borrow what you can and spend smart, this isnt home, its training, after ait you can.
Went from fort Benning to fort Gordon to fort Sam Houston almost two years in A. I. T.
I got 68S for my second go, it was great, just i failed with an injury and was sent home not considered a vet just before the 2 year month
I made 70,000 my second year trucking after I left the army, got my own apartment and bmw too and never looked back I was tired of low self esteem people with a high rank telling me what to do🤷🏾♂️
I know this is an old video but its the best I have found so far. My son just failed out of 12M during suppression and he is devastated. He and I knew he hit gold when active duty 12M popped up. Well now he is rethinking the army thing even though he joined to get a good life experience. He locked on to the firefighter gig due to the career potential, now hes telling me he is having second thoughts, I think he is really embarrassed and wants to come home. Your friend had a 1 year AIT, I think my boy was about 10 weeks in... not positive. Do you think he will get this choice? We fear hes going to be miserable when they press the MOS button. It seemed pretty strict, he was acing the exams, but he messed up knots, hose drag, and some suppression movements. He turned around and aced knots and drag. 5 fails just added up on him. Hope you respond, hes waiting to talk to HRC I believe. His sgt said he hated to lose him as my son apparently didnt show any indications he failed intentionally. 12M sounds tough as far as fails go.
I was in red phase and got sent to quarantine for 10 days, even though I tested negative, my second to last day I got re-swabbed and tested positive so they moved me to isolation 😩
So I’ve missed a total of 20 days of training and I’ve had a lot of time to think about it, I realize this isn’t for me! I had already expressed to my drills and the company commander about getting out before I got sent to the Recovery Center. So they’re aware!
I know it’ll be an ELS because I was only in my 2nd week of training, but I was wondering how long does it take to get discharged and processes out? Since it hasn’t been that long.
Dang you waited 3 months to get out... I'm like 2 months away from graduating ait as a 91b I've been really fighting with just depression but at the same time like I'd hate to like be the one to say I quit on my own terms. What would you do in my situation and idk if you have to buy your plane tickets back.
Matt,
Was wondering if you could bestow some wisdom. My sibling is going through very serious mental problems back home right now, and I’m all they have. I am in AIT, so I’m unable to be there to get them help. Is it possible to obtain a ELS for this situation, and if so, would I be able to reenlist later on down the road? Thanks
Failed out of the 68w course this vid is helping me get through this process
What happened? Did you get an option to chapter?
Hey Matt, can you possibly do a video on the simultaneous membership program for ROTC?
I'm joining the guard as kind of a stepping stone towards going to college and was looking into the ROTC program at the university I'd be attending but I'm getting a lot of mixed information on how it works and what you need to qualify for it
Jessie O'Mahony Check his channel he talks about this stuff in the “ROTC” videos that are up already. I’ve watched it like 10 times for my personal clarification now I’m actually gonna do some of the things he suggested like the simultaneous membership program when you’re part of the reserve or guard , & currently contracted with Rotc while still going to monthly drills n stuff. Look into it 🙌
@@taliqthomas6919 oh thanks. I didn't think it would be in that video. I just found his channel not too long ago. Thank you
SMP really isn't all that difficult to underatand, what're you wanting to know?
@@Dr4gon2000 I got the information I needed from the video he reffered to me but thank you for your willingness to help
I’m in AIT rn, I’m battling mental health really bad rn. I just turned 18 and being home isn’t something I wanna be away from. I just got back from HBL and it’s extremely hard being away from my parents and my little sister. It’s really hard for me and I just can’t do this. It’s extremely hard on my mental state and I’m trying to be positive but I can’t at this point.
My nephew is going through the same thing. They took him to a bh hospital yesterday. They are considering him for a medical chapter. Prayers going out to you.
Hey Gabriel I’m in the same situation I just got back from HBL and I can’t do this it’s not for me Are you getting out or ? Would really appreciate some help
@@chriscordova6104 I’m in this same situation please help
Im currently getting a chapter with the same situation,best of luck to you guys
@@chiefs2231 I ended up going to cbhs due to my suicidal thoughts getting really bad,explained my situation and cause of it all,took 7 months after that though so just hold steady if this is the path you decide
Don’t forget about the RE-code . You can have an honorable discharge with a bad RE code and not be able to re enlist . They don’t explain that to you when you separate earlier than your contract .
RE-4 is bad
What’s the earliest in the new year someone could ship out to boot camp?
After getting out. Are you considered having served on job applications?
Do they let you know the specific mos that fits the needs of the army or do they wait until you agree to reclass and surprise you?
Volkz337 they wait until you choose reclass and you don’t have any clue what the job will be until they present it to you
Ryan Stevenson, almost sounds like they want you to just take the discharge.
Volkz337 in some cases yes but in my case they are fighting to keep me in my constantly coming back to me with different options, if you have a connection with the nco channel they will do everything possible for you
I heard when you reclass in AIT they give a list of 5 now different jobs now?
I’m in 68c ait right now and a lot of people fail this ait
What’s the fastest way to get back? I’m currently a 14g possibly becoming a day zero recycled and I just don’t want to be here anymore. I am on good terms and still out in effort for everything I just don’t want to be here anymore, how do I leave?
Did you ever find out?
Just wondering, how do you get an honorable discharge for failing A.I.T.? not trying to be an ass, just being honest.
Sounds like a loser. Why is he being supported by military UA-camrs?
If you actually wanted 11b infantry during re class, would that be an exception that they'll allow you to voluntarily choose?
Davis Tran no, they only let you choose what options they offer. I had only 2 options to reclass - 91b mechanic or 92F petroleum supply - I chose mechanic and I’m super happy that I did
Damn that sucks that you can't choose infantry if you wanted, I thought they push hard for that. But at least they give you options I guess.
Glad you are happy with your decision man
Depends on the needs of the army, you can luck out and get a cool MOS like 35 series, or 11 series or you could be a 42 series
How can you get out of AIT with an honorable discharge?
Got out just over 2 weeks ago. Had one of them famous stress fractures that cut me on my 2 mile by 1 min under the minimum. Was a hold over for 4-5 months after I pretty much completed training. Only thing couldn't do was the run. Got out and been trying to come back in but the 6 months are really hard to adjust into lol. Mind you, I was in BASIC for 6m18days.. What advice do y'all have for my situation trying to reenlist? Swap branches? Thanks
Liulfr Úlfablóð If it were possible for you to swap branches into the Air Force, if possible, just like he says at 4:04 - 4:07 of the video, I'd say *absolutely do it*. The Air Force not only has an easier PT test than the Army but they're also less harsh about their PT than the Army is.
If you passed Army AIT and you went active duty in the operational Army, regardless of your MOS or what kind of unit you got assigned to (though it would be worse with 11B, the whole Army is an infantry branch), you'd be doing mandatory group PT pretty much every day and you'd be doing heavy running every other day. Sometimes we do runs for PT wearing IOTV vests. Other times, during PT, we actually do ruck marches (all before a long rough days of work out in the motor pool). That would really hurt your body over time.
The Air Force not only has lighter PT test standards and is less harsh with their PT, *but often times the Air Force won't even make you do PT at all. They'll let you do PT on your own* instead of making you report early in the morning for group PT (which means you probably either be doing what *you want to do for PT*, that is, if you do it).
Easier on your body and you'll have more time for your body to recover in Air Force that you wouldn't get in the Army. This is all stuff that people really don't realize about the comparisons and differences between the branches until after it's too late since there's still so much you don't see online. So definitely go to the Air Force if they'll take you. Good luck.
What did he chapter for?
I want to get out of AIT i realized that i don't fit well as a solider and don't want to commit to the system. How long does the process normally take if i do a entry level discharge?
Did you get out or graduated ?
@@anasarfiii They didn't let me get out and ignored my request so I muscled through it now I'm opting for an OTH discharge.
So Matt, why did you choose the reserves over the national guard?
He doesn't wanna go to Afghanistan lol
LJG you realize that national guard also deploy overseas? I have friends who went to Iraq who were all guard. Guard get deployed more frequently than reserves
National Guard promotions and assignments are a lot more political. I've hears this time and again from Ny National Guard members. I switched over to theReserves from the IRR in February and I love it.
@LJG Do you realize that reserves have no combat units?
reserves gets deployed for then active. i was a 68T
Ok, so I'm in AIT, Currently on HBL until 3rd of January, I start class Jan 5th, but I realized this was something I ended up not wanting to continue doing, I got very homesick, anxiety kicks in more, more nervous around higher ups and drill sergeants, don't want to stay longet than I have to, afraid to fail AIT, don't want to be forcibly pushed down like I was at BCT, and I have the autism disorder. I did electronically signed a waiver for it, thought it was something I wanted to do, even through basic, but now it came to me to realize this isn't what I thought I wanted to be, and see about getting an ELS, either I should talk to a chaplain, or to my commander about, and how long it would take. I'm not adapting very well with the army, to be honest here. 😢
Hey are you a 35F at AIT
How did it turn out?
How did it turn out?
I’ve been researching this all over but I can’t find any info about it anywhere. Do they issue everyone pajamas at basic? Or should I bring my own?
pajamas? No you sleep in your pt uniform
Matt Ward Oh that’s a relief! I hate wearing pajamas. I already sleep in exercise shorts and a t shirt anyways
Can you do a video of how you get out of ait
i got out i failed a drug test got a gen und honorable
Definitely reenlisting in the Air Force!! That's what I'm doing after my six months have passed from my discharge date!
Did u reenlist
And what's was your re entry code
@Makayla Dahms
Did you end up reenlisting in the Air Force? When I got chaptered out just recently, the Army said that the Air Force isn't accepting prior service at the moment. I want to re-enlist into the Marine Corps, but the Army told us that they’re also not accepting prior service. I heard of branches doing that, but it sounds like bull when the Army was telling us that, so I’ll check once I have waited my 6 months. Why did you get out?
@@claire4897 so have you tried re enlisting in the army and what's your re entry code
@hareth omari I just got chaptered out a few weeks ago and I have to wait 6 months until I can try to re-enlist. I have an reenlistment code of 3, but have some really bad remarks in my paperwork. It will probably be hard to get a waiver due to those remarks. Did you get chaptered out?
@@claire4897 yes I did and in june it will be 6 months
I had this happen to me and it took 3 weeks to get out.. the Return home unit is literally all cleaning..
SkullyBeast1775 u failed and they let you out?
Did you get out for family or financial reasons or you failed out?
Where were you for AIT?
@@toothmanfamily no.
@@johnathanflores3619 I was released on a medical discharge.. was given the option to stay and wait 8 months there and retry or go home and I chose to go home and heal
And I was cleared after those 8 months to re-enlist but I never did.
Can I ask for a discharge ? I’m in AIT now and I hate it!
I’m think the same thing, I’m a hold under is it possible?
Marian possibly! i just hung in there a now i’m in alaska
How did it turn out for you guys?
I got out during AIT. I couldn't believe the number of people that wanted out. I told 2 people I was getting out then I literally had 100s coming at me asking me how to get out.
Most people who failed my air became truck drivers or watercraft operators
If you can fail 3 tests why didn’t he get to retake at least the last one?
My Son just got home today from Benning with medical discharge.. He could have switched MOS to tanker or re-enlist in 6 months for original job (11×). He's going to try again in few months. You're videos have helped more than I could ever explain. TY
How in the world did you get that discharge you weren’t even in the real army.
Pretty interesting video
I just enlisted yesterday with a 6 year contract...surprised I didn't get hit with a 8 year because I got 17C as my MOS!
are you going active or reserve?
@@ONDAMILITAR active
Anne Frank A 6 year contract on active duty army? more power to you.
Everyone joins for 8 years, no matter how much of that time is active, reserves/guard or inactive. Any time you're not in one of those components, you'll be in the Individual Ready Reserve (IRR), also known as the inactive reserves. You don't drill or do anything, but are subject to recall until the end of your 8-year military service obligation.
Devilsigh I know that but still 6 years on active duty in the military regardless of branch is a real long time but in the Army is probably too long of a time. Going out to the field, PT which in the Army is mandatory group PT early in the morning with the heavy runs and doing it in infantry gear, ruck marches, etc. will probably get too old real quick.
Leaving for BENNING TEUSDAY!!!❤.keep up the content matt😎🤘
isaac herrera see you there brother!receptions a week!
I leave Monday!
Good luck!
I'll see y'all there, leaving Monday
King Leon Sama same bro see you there
I’m going through this. I’m being chartered out for general discharge
Boss Kelly how long did it take you?
How long did it take
Im in the process r n,how long did it take you?
What are some good engineering jobs in the army?
Justin Cruz combat engineer. You learn a lot of tactical as well as engineering principles. If you want more “typical” engineering experience, go with robotics or something like that.
Helicopter mechanic, drone mechanic, truck mechanic, lots of different MOS. Go do some research
You said he failed the last test, but Robbie said they came to him and would Not let him take the last test. Why did they not let him take it, especially waiting till he was about to take it? Sounds a little strange.
How did he get a honorable discharge?? I don’t think that’s possible.
I got one...the certificate is sitting in my fire safe right now
@@spicypancakeproductions5057 you got one for failing AIT? Or for another reason? I’m in a 2 year AIT. EOD classes are backed up 13 months to start and it’s a 9 month course. Then they add 2 years into your contract when you get out. This isn’t what I signed up for and I’m not doing needs of the army.
@@treylehman6932 No I didn't fail the course, but I wasn't medically allowed to continue after ending up in the hospital three times. Godawful mess doesn't begin to even describe it
I quit AIT am i still a veteran? (Got my soldier badge and completed basic... 7 months before general discharge?
No you are a failure . And actually veteran is a legal definition you have to serve so much time active duty you don't become a veteran just for showing up to your 1st unit.
@@Stranger-TX but u don't know how much
How long did it take for that paperwork ?
@@Liaxlifts don’t try to get out, just move on and you will see how everything will get easier
@@Stranger-TX have you even been in the military at all?
Matt, Is it possible to be training for two MOS's during AIT at the same time? I was training to become an Equipment Records and Parts Specialist (76C10) and had an office come to me and requested I be trained as an ATC as well. I ended up not completing the ATC training due to my hearing being to bad at that time.
Yo I signed up with the Airforce but it's so hard to get into contact with them. The army recruiter has been more helpful smh. Why join in the first place? when I'm in, I'm in
Random Games army has more opportunities. Millitary intelligence can translate well to the civillian side.
@@andrewv1067 aight I'll speak to the army recruiter and see what's up
Andrew V Air Force doesn't have an intelligence job? I'm in the Army and if you've seen my comments on a lot of videos, you know the Air Force is probably better. Air Force has the highest standards for recruiting so that's why they're harder to contact than the Army. Name me one opportunity that the Army gives that the Air Force doesn't. Please don't say "the Army is the only branch that guarantees you your job". I'll wait.
@@macburger5026 oh thank you
@@macburger5026 I have a question I want to join the air Force and gain my associates degree from credits in tech school and boot camp, then I use air University for my 2 bachelor's degrees and I use tuition assistance also I want to do a job that pays well in civilian sector.i won't be partying just trying to go for all those degrees any suggestions.
Leave the army and be a human bench. It’s what I did and I never looked back
LOOOL
I wanna leave so bad bro I dont like the army
GreenReacts same
@@greenreacts6411 same man. Stuck in a 2 year AIT and it’s hell
Go active duty weenies!
Did he get benefits with that honorable discharge?
I want out but they making it like I got no choice to chapter out
What did it go?
What's wrong with being a truck driver
Absolutely nothing is wrong with it. And civilian companies are hiring like crazy when you get out.
Wow, you have to give back your uniform and everything...nothing to hold on and remember.
I got discharged a month ago from 35F AIT and they let me keep everything
Kilo Graham did you get discharged for failing or did you just want out? I’m currently in this situation and I want out I’m in AIT at the moment
yenny savia what happened dude? Did you get out?
@@rza9529 I did but it was for medical reasons. I wanted to stay in (I spent a lot of time in the hospital trying to convince docs I wasn't crazy) but I eventually lost that fight
@@spicypancakeproductions5057 the money you made?
If anyone has questions about 91b I'll try to answer them rn
Is that job extremely hard ?
Ayyy I’m 91b, I’m at fort Jackson rn about to start boot camp Friday, how was your experience as a 91b?
how was ait ? was it in fort benning?
Is it bad that I have no experience??
What's wrong with 13b man don't hate
Same here I failed my original mos AIT which was 68W. And then I got forced to reclass to 88M, so I'm 88m for almost 3 years now. But I just reenlisted with option 3 which is reclassifying my mos to 68c, yup, I'm leaving to the new AIT for 68c in 6 months. Unlike last time, this time I've been preparing and studying LPN courses for almost 3yrs now, definitely gonna get it. Back the time I didn't get the option to get out of the army, basically they just let us know ok y'all are 88m now, there's nothing more they can do for us except send us to new AIT for 88m.
It sucks tho, I didn't except this at all when I first signed my contract. But I did get lots experience that how the combat arms units work and how the supporting units work, as far as I went thru, I did training with 75th before just kinda being a grunt and trained by them and did training operation with them, and also gone thru airborne and air assault school, bunch of other military school, went to NTC couple of times, and other training center as well. These are some experiences that majority of people as 68c or generally being a medic other than 68w are not gonna get to do. And yes I don't like to drive a huge truck but u know what , I can pretty much operate majority of vehicles in the army now, I even got my bus driver license.
So if u get urself into this kinda situation, just don't give up, u probably are gonna get even more good things out of it.
Ah, forgot to tell that I'm on active duty.
Would they offer you a flight home?
Yes
Yeah but you might get an American Airlines flight, depending on where you are. if you do, prepare for baggage fees
i has a sfc trans to first sgt walk me around gordon 07
Something doesn't seem right in this scenario. He seems like a perfectly intelligent guy. I think perhaps he sabotaged himself so he could go home and work on his outside interests. In the Army, it is EXTREMELY DIFFICULT to fail a routine course like AIT.
68C has a 60% Failure rate. So, it's not that difficult to fail... lol Several mos' like 68C are ACTUALLY difficult. 90% are not bad at all but some are.
Matt Ward Still, you’re telling me he isn’t in the 60th percentile or higher? Seems strange to me.
B Miles it would be the 40th percentile or higher that passes.
I graduated AIT and got counseled as an inactive for going off post so I could feel human again lol
Hey Matt
What's upp
Love your videos going to met a recruiter tomorrow thanks for putting out vids really helps
💜👍
weakness pays
What's wrong with trucking lol!?!?!
lol Well for him going from a nurse to a truck driver is not even in the same sphere of interests hahaa But lets say you were a mechanic and failed out then maybe it would be fine for that individual.
Matt Ward nobody ever fails out of mechanic AIT - it’s all open book tests lol.
I got out during ait. I didn’t want to get out during basic cause they were being really mean.
Should've never joined if that's your reason for wanting out
Also..... the point of basic is to pass everybody. If you try getting out during basic you're gonna get held over past your graduation date. And no that's not by accident
how did u get out
How long did it take?
Anyone who leaves the Army out of AIT has no place to even be called a Soldier.....let alone say they served in any capacity. Seeing this on your channel almost makes me want to unfollow you. But.....I realize some people may not understand how getting chaptered out in AIT is like.
Why not they passed BCT only thing they really didn’t do is get mos qualified
My guy you have no right to pass judgment
@@DustyDesertRat Wow this is an old comment you brought up. Two year ago me stands by what I said, and I still agree to that now. But, I now believe in that even more so. I don't know you and you don't know me, but I have every right to pass judgment. So "my guy" stay in your own lane.
@@oldspICEtrey this is my lane,im getting chaptered for a reason out of my control and have been trying to be a soldier for 2 years. Not everyone who leaves AIT does it by choice
@@DustyDesertRat that’s cool. I’ve been an AIT Instructor longer then you’ve been trying to become a Soldier. I’m sorry you didn’t make it. But, my point still stands. It’s less than 1% for a reason.