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5:16 Dr. Angela Collier @acollierastro has some great data points regarding Webb and the naming of the 'scope. very funny. Webb has nothing to do with space, he was just simply an administrator from Dept. of State brought in to manage NASA for a time period. He had no real discoveries or anything significant that he himself contributed other than just Administrating. 🤣 ua-cam.com/video/18aA36pUIbc/v-deo.html
Ironically, there actually is such a world-wide networked telescope set up to get that 8,000 mile diameter. It's called the Event Horizon telescope, and that's how we've gotten the images we have of the M86 super massive black hole, as well as Sagittarius A*
It's a misunderstood thing; trying to do something that's never been done means treading in unknown places = inevitable that errors be made while learning. The American CERN got canceled too by yet more who don't understand the pioneering process
Yeah people that try to cancel other people because they don't agree with narratives or responsible for more damage in scientific progress than anything else
@@snex000 Science develops technology to improve your life. It's very important for humanity. It should absolutely be funded by tax money. You should instead be complaining about the trillions spent per year on the military just to meddle with other countries to start wars.
@@ChinnuWoW Science that produces results will be invested in on its own, because investors like profits. The government only gets in the way, as you clearly saw in this video. It's nothing but grifters taking their cut while the actual project budget explodes and goes overdue. Stop engaging in whataboutism. This is NOT what tax dollars are for. There shouldn't even BE tax dollars.
@@snex000 OMG you know that fundamental science is one of the best investment a government can make as it is estimated that every dollar spend in it increases the gpd by 7$ you know creation of jobs, a LOT of new technologies (if you know what a book is you can find one dedicated to all the new tech that descended from the Apollo program) Also I hope you do not enjoy the internet or GPS or anything that needed infrastructure and development by public money lol
Northrop Grumman was charging $1m for each day it remained inside the clean chamber at Redondo Beach. The fact that some NG employees messed the spacecraft component and added months in delays at the end it benefited the company
I really enjoyed this video format. Well done, Not because I specifically enjoyed this video, but because I think others will too, obviously. The dirt lawn segment was especially spot on.
Nick, I probably overuse this; but this may be your best video yet. Learning about history *should* make one upset, as that is the only way we can avoid repeating it.
I think the title was a little misleading I was expecting a technical video about the challenges and building it not seven minute history lesson about the namesake.
The goal is not to "learn" about history but to feel superior to people of the past and to virtue signal. It seems to me that the cancel crowd* don't try to "avoid" doing the same mistakes as McCarthy and friends, they just try to emulate him for the other side. *I am not talking about Science Asylum
From Wikipedia: "Webb made racial integration a priority for the agency. NASA publicly supported the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and initiated a series of innovative programs aimed at increasing black participation including specifically targeting black colleges and schools with recruitment programs. On one occasion Webb and Werner von Braun famously confronted and lectured segregationist Alabama Governor George Wallace on racial integration in front of the press. NASA had the worst black representation of any government agency in 1961, but by the time Webb stepped down, it was the best and considered the model for other government agencies on racial integration." James Webb was a good guy. Was he perfect, especially by today's standards? Probably not. But he clearly thought civil rights were important. It would have been easy for someone in his position to hire a few token minorities, but largely maintain the status quo, saying something like, "NASA hires by merit - we hope in the future the black colleges are better so we're able to hire more of their graduates."
Great explanation of a complicated topic! I also appreciate the Futurama reference. Nothing like being entertained and educated at the same time. Thank you for what you do!
The budget is actually tiny when you consider that it’s not coming from a country, but basicly a continent. You can’t even see it’s tiny fraction of the total spending. Then there’s inflation. But the most important things are the advances we are getting back from it. And it would probably be possible to calculate a value for that (although in the future when these things have happened), would be interesting to see a cost/benefit calculation for something like this. Like all the stuff that came from the Apollo missions that’s provided decades of new science and tech.
Doesn't matter, still all funded by stolen tax payer wealth. The only stolen wealth that can be justified is the wealth going to millitary and courts. Outside of that, everything should be in the private sector exclusively.
The large hadron cost about 5 billion, plus a billion a year running costs plus upgrades plus plus plus. The next one is already more than 20 billion...... estimated.
I wished you could have said more about why it was decided that the Webb Telescope would focus exclusively on the IR range, while Hubble was more on the visible and UV. And what can be investigated in each regime.
I doubt there's more than what has already been said in this video and others. Longer wavelengths can see earlier parts of the universe which we couldn't see before. We don't really know what we're going to see with it, and that's the value of this telescope that you wouldn't get from something that is merely better than Hubble.
Congrats on getting in on Nebula!! You once told me that you'd love to, and now you're there. Awesome. (Also, I know it's been about two weeks since you posted this and you probably won't see it, but I'm super happy for you.)
Alright, that's a pretty solid investigation of the historical record, and I'm glad to be made aware of it. In general I would say I'm apprehensive naming things after people though. I'd rather we just didn't. But I'll own the fact that this is mostly a vague emotional position that I can't rationalize, and I wouldn't expect that to mean anything.
@@ScienceAsylum yeah I learned more about Webb (the person) only recently. You explained it very well. Turns out Webb actually tried working against bigotry. But we also must not forget the environment is a major influencer on behavior and people tend to be scared of things they don’t understand. Doesn’t mean they are evil though.
Great video as always. The JWST is truly a wondrous accomplishment and shows what the human race is capable of when we put our minds and investment to it.
@@wally7856 Because something arose from X doesn't mean it had to arise from X or otherwise not exist. In the world OP is imagining, some other path would most certainly exist.
@@wally7856 No, he doesn't. How things are isn't a good reason to keep them that way or not aim for better. Humans doing something also isn't definitive evidence that humans are innately that way. I'd say imagination and want to improve is more awake than someone asleep justifying the status quo. Also, the military and war being what moves tech forward is B.S. and it should be obvious enough that's the case. It being A way doesn't make it essential nor mean other things ways don't. Many of us have made things because we like to do it and military applications were never a factor.
@@brothermine2292 Ah, you prefer pure educational content. Mr Beat and I make EDUtainment content. You seem to be in a _slightly_ wrong corner of UA-cam.
@@ScienceAsylum : Why would you conclude that because I found Mr Beat's humor lame, that I don't appreciate your humor more? The fact that I've viewed many of your videos is strong evidence that you're mistaken.
I was lucky enough to take a tour of Tinsley Lab's facility (then recently acquired by L3) when they were working on JWST mirrors. Little did I know how long it would take to get them to L2!
The show "For All Mankind" touched on the lavender scare in and around NASA. The "scare" was that people with a different sexual orientation were more vulnerable to blackmail because they would be ostracized by society and would lose their job at NASA if it became public. You'd think the solution was to _not_ ostracize them, so that they'd be _less_ vulnerable... but at the time, they decided to do the exact opposite and just double down on the paranoia. (the show is pretty good for the first two seasons or so btw)
So you think changing the mindset of all Americans about a group of people would have been easier than preventing a small minority of people from occupying certain jobs? People who are more vulnerable to blackmail have always been a national security threat.
@@MrAlRats If you control whether you hire them, you can make it clear that you won't fire people for that reason, and that you'd support them through any hardships they face.
@@MrAlRats Yeah, becaue I highly doubt that "all Americans" had that mindset. And making things worse for vulnerable people only makes them even more vulnerable. So that angle is completely backwards anyway.
@@bierrollerful You're delusional. The vast majority of people in America at the time found homosexuality to be disgusting. Most people would disown their children if they came out as homosexual. Homosexuals were legitimately concerned about being ostracised by their family members and friends. And anybody who has a secret can be blackmailed into leaking classified info or sabotaging critical projects. Making vulnerable people more vulnerable is not a concern. National security is far more important.
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@@ScienceAsylum at least your not taking sponsorships that might compromise your fan loyalty 😂 take the sponsorship but still have a critical thinking and probing point of view. I think the formula for you have works great, simple explanations, no "wooing" the crowd with jargon, or focusing on visuals without a comprehensive explanation. Among your peers, you were the one that started my interest in science, I downloaded your book (free pdf, forgive me🥺) and I like your approach with the clones, and "people in the comments typing", and having your loving wife be apart of your growth. 💪 Great men aren't supposed to please everybody, only those that matter lol To put it simply, when I watch one of your peers videos, I gotta rewatch it a couple time to understand (go figure) but I only have to watch your videos once to understand.
100m would be even cooler. A constellation of JWSTs at each planet's oitside Lagrange point forming a real-time telescope of dozens of AU in diameter would be nuts, and completely possible with today's technology.
As a queer person in STEM, **thank you so much for this video**!! It genuinely acknowledges the horrors that happened to us under the US government, but clarifies point by point with facts instead of picking an easy scapegoat. This was brilliantly done, great content!!
Even if he had said it; As a gay man, I’m personally okay with the naming of the JWST. While I value the controversy and the conversations it fosters, I acknowledge the naming honors Webb's work at NASA and in no material way serves to platform or perpetuate any wrongheaded, discriminatory beliefs he held. I think this serves as a good teachable moment, perhaps now more than ever before we must learn how to distinguish between the faults and virtues of historic and public figures. This isn’t a tacit prescription, for how to handle every problematic figure, but I think it's exemplary of the attitude we should strive to take when addressing these matters. While we should not turn a blind eye to such ill revelations, we should neither jump to strike from history or remembrance, those tainted but otherwise deserving. We can leverage, celebrate, and remember their works and greatness while we acknowledge, contextualize, and mourn their harm and failures. Our virtue and capacity to achieve greatness is matched if not exceeded by our ignorance, short-sightedness, and propensity for fear. This is true of us all, the best and the worst; it's innate to our humanity.
What we learned today? Hexagons are bestagons! Jokes aside, is hurtful to know you can stand for equality to the point of resigning a very important job, just to have a few people in the future decades accusing you of being exactly the kind of person you opposed for the sake of visibility and controversy. Almost as hurtful as admitting the budget for spacial investigation is so small... almost as hurtful as recognizing in the present day that were facing the same social problems we faced 70 years ago and learned almost nothing. Yes. Learning history isn't always a pleasant experience, specially when politics come to the table. But is necessary if we want to build a better world. Thank you for sharing this with us.
The thing that always bugs me about criticisms of NASA that focus on the spending, is it's not like the 10 billion dollars ended up floating in space; it was wages and material costs. It went *into* the economy. The people and organisations that make and build the stuff got the money. Sure the materials end up in space, but the money ultimately just goes back into the economy where it goes round and round compensating people for their time, and then being spent to compensate other people for their time, who then spend it to compensate *more* people for their time. Also, as you say, NASA is far from a significant portion of US spending...
You can say the same thing about the defence budget (ignoring the corruption) and almost all government spending. You're ultimately saying that NASA is good because it's a "job creator." But that metric isn't valuable because the jobs here could be something worthless and then real people would waste real time on something that has no value. Ultimately, you do have to defend the value of science to defend NASA. The problem with everyone else is that they don't value science.
Wow this video went off the rails quickly.... I take it as how much work it takes to clear someone of a cancel offense vs the ease of cancelling them in the first place.
I tried to make it 10 minute video, but the topic wouldn't allow it. Honestly, I wanted to talk more about the Lavender Scare, but pure history isn't really what I do here.
@@ScienceAsylum To be honest its not your field. That is more about history you are more about teaching science topics. I expected the video to be about The technical challenges in building the thing, not a 7 min history lesson about the namesake. If that was the case you should have made the title of your video "How naming the James Webb telescope was a nightmare" The video just seems a little disengenerous.
I thought it was really interesting. Once you mention that aspect of the nightmare, and of course you have to, you can't just yada yada yada it. The explanation of the infra red spectra was super too. Good job Science Asylum.
@@athirkell My original plan was a technical episode about how the telescope works with some sides notes about the budgets/delays. The video itself had other plans. Once I learned about all this, how could I _not_ talk about it? This is obviously the leading story here. Who knows. Maybe this will free me up to do the technical episode now (but I don't know if I can top the Real Engineering episode).
@@ScienceAsylum i was expecting (and hoping) just that, a technical explanation or an update what it achieved until now. Instead its a story that the budget became inflated (who cares, happens all the time with big projects) and about almost not naming it after James Webb, the man was perhaps anti gay ("homophobic"lmao) so from scientific achiever he becomes a paria. just crazy. The WEBB its such an achievement, no matter "overbudgetting" or somebody was "homophobic"....
As Senator Everett Dirksen from Illinois once said, "A few billion here, a few billion there, and pretty soon your talking about real money". $10,000,000,000 is a very small drop in a very large bucket.
Thanks for setting the record straight on James Webb. To this day I still hear people angrily wondering why they named the telescope after him. Now I can just send them to this video to set them straight.
I was thinking about something unrelated to this video. Since the universe is expanding, you can say the future of every object points away from us. It's analog to being in a 4 dimensional universe where the direction of time points away from the origin. I am not sure if it works with relativity since i didn't study all the equations. I can explain more if someone wants.
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@@acombo That's fine. I'm not pressuring you.
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5:16 Dr. Angela Collier @acollierastro has some great data points regarding Webb and the naming of the 'scope. very funny. Webb has nothing to do with space, he was just simply an administrator from Dept. of State brought in to manage NASA for a time period. He had no real discoveries or anything significant that he himself contributed other than just Administrating. 🤣 ua-cam.com/video/18aA36pUIbc/v-deo.html
Ur not a good listener.
You are not able too see.
But it's all just for funnies......
Update- I now have grass! I've been watching the grass grow for a few days now!
Good to hear!
The first design was for an 8,000-mile-diameter space telescope, but building a World Wide Webb telescope proved to be problematic.
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Ironically, there actually is such a world-wide networked telescope set up to get that 8,000 mile diameter. It's called the Event Horizon telescope, and that's how we've gotten the images we have of the M86 super massive black hole, as well as Sagittarius A*
For now.
Learning history is supposed to bother us. That's how we learn to be better
That's one of the best youtube comments I've ever read...
Fair point.
Year, turns out they were right in the 50's, now communists are in power everywhere.
@@Wisteriu Not really I've seen way better
History that doesn't upset people is just public relations.
Watching the launch live was my personal moon landing experience, I was obsessed with it for weeks!
Cool. I didn't watch it launch, but I did see it in person when it was being built.
How high did your heart rate get. I watched the launch myself. 145 with worry and stress
@@highlander723 I was stressed till we got well calibrated images from it.
it was such a awesome launch, my family did see me disappear at the Christmas party lol, to bad I was the only one neerding out on it
@@zblurth855 I was alone too 😭 I tried explaining my mom how much of a big deal it was, but she was all like "As long as you're happy sweetie."
It's a misunderstood thing; trying to do something that's never been done means treading in unknown places = inevitable that errors be made while learning. The American CERN got canceled too by yet more who don't understand the pioneering process
Yeah people that try to cancel other people because they don't agree with narratives or responsible for more damage in scientific progress than anything else
You want to spend trillions on science, great. Spend YOUR trillions. Public moneys are not yours to play with.
@@snex000 Science develops technology to improve your life. It's very important for humanity. It should absolutely be funded by tax money. You should instead be complaining about the trillions spent per year on the military just to meddle with other countries to start wars.
@@ChinnuWoW Science that produces results will be invested in on its own, because investors like profits. The government only gets in the way, as you clearly saw in this video. It's nothing but grifters taking their cut while the actual project budget explodes and goes overdue. Stop engaging in whataboutism. This is NOT what tax dollars are for. There shouldn't even BE tax dollars.
@@snex000 OMG you know that fundamental science is one of the best investment a government can make as it is estimated that every dollar spend in it increases the gpd by 7$
you know creation of jobs, a LOT of new technologies (if you know what a book is you can find one dedicated to all the new tech that descended from the Apollo program)
Also I hope you do not enjoy the internet or GPS or anything that needed infrastructure and development by public money lol
You finally made a history video! lol
😆 Researching this was BRUTAL! I have a newfound appreciation for history YTers.
Well hello, Mr. Beat! ❤
Northrop Grumman was charging $1m for each day it remained inside the clean chamber at Redondo Beach. The fact that some NG employees messed the spacecraft component and added months in delays at the end it benefited the company
That's fucked up
I really enjoyed this video format.
Well done, Not because I specifically enjoyed this video, but because I think others will too, obviously.
The dirt lawn segment was especially spot on.
I appreciate the deep dive into the history surrounding the name for this telescope.
Nick, I probably overuse this; but this may be your best video yet. Learning about history *should* make one upset, as that is the only way we can avoid repeating it.
I think the title was a little misleading I was expecting a technical video about the challenges and building it not seven minute history lesson about the namesake.
If you get upset about history, you might not want to read about Genghis Khan.
@@joho0 but the mongols are an exception to everything in history.
The goal is not to "learn" about history but to feel superior to people of the past and to virtue signal.
It seems to me that the cancel crowd* don't try to "avoid" doing the same mistakes as McCarthy and friends, they just try to emulate him for the other side.
*I am not talking about Science Asylum
@@MusicalRaichuHow are they an exception?
From Wikipedia: "Webb made racial integration a priority for the agency. NASA publicly supported the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and initiated a series of innovative programs aimed at increasing black participation including specifically targeting black colleges and schools with recruitment programs. On one occasion Webb and Werner von Braun famously confronted and lectured segregationist Alabama Governor George Wallace on racial integration in front of the press. NASA had the worst black representation of any government agency in 1961, but by the time Webb stepped down, it was the best and considered the model for other government agencies on racial integration."
James Webb was a good guy. Was he perfect, especially by today's standards? Probably not. But he clearly thought civil rights were important. It would have been easy for someone in his position to hire a few token minorities, but largely maintain the status quo, saying something like, "NASA hires by merit - we hope in the future the black colleges are better so we're able to hire more of their graduates."
"Hexagons are the best-agons."
Someone has been watching CGP Grey.
Yes! This is exactly what I was thinking! How long before he mentions @CGPGrey 's bees 🐝
That spectrum diagram of the EM ranges of JWST and Hubble was really cool to see. I wonder what the other telescopes would look like on that graph?
Thanks! I spent _entirely too much_ time on that graphic.
@@ScienceAsylum Your worked paid off. It really showed how wide the EM range of JWST is.
It was the only good technical part of the video
@@highlander723 I actually intended this month's video to be a technical video about the telescope, but the video had other plans.
@@ScienceAsylum Hey make whatever video you want. Just make the title reflect the content. Its too clickbaity, you are better than that!
We made the JWST battery. It took so long, they had us make a whole new battery that hadn't been in storage for so long.
woah
Great historical essay.
When you have to do this big project and you are the first ones to do it,..
Advancements are not easy to achieve
I hope eventually we can see them make the big boy. Twice the size, 3 times the wavelength coverage, and launched less than a decade after inception.
plans are on the table.... its going to be called the Carl Sagan observatory
Great explanation of a complicated topic! I also appreciate the Futurama reference. Nothing like being entertained and educated at the same time. Thank you for what you do!
Wow, this one went down some rabbit holes! I'm sure glad that JWST is a success.
I love when Mr Beat interrupts people’s videos
Yay! Glad you are on Nebula now :)
Me too!
The Nebula seems to be expanding, as predicted by astronomers
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The budget is actually tiny when you consider that it’s not coming from a country, but basicly a continent. You can’t even see it’s tiny fraction of the total spending. Then there’s inflation. But the most important things are the advances we are getting back from it. And it would probably be possible to calculate a value for that (although in the future when these things have happened), would be interesting to see a cost/benefit calculation for something like this. Like all the stuff that came from the Apollo missions that’s provided decades of new science and tech.
Doesn't matter, still all funded by stolen tax payer wealth. The only stolen wealth that can be justified is the wealth going to millitary and courts. Outside of that, everything should be in the private sector exclusively.
Hexagons are the bestagons! I just recently rewatched that video. Yesterday in fact and it was so good that I watched it twice.
The large hadron cost about 5 billion, plus a billion a year running costs plus upgrades plus plus plus. The next one is already more than 20 billion...... estimated.
Come for the science, stay for the thoughtful and incisive historical perspective.
I wished you could have said more about why it was decided that the Webb Telescope would focus exclusively on the IR range, while Hubble was more on the visible and UV. And what can be investigated in each regime.
I doubt there's more than what has already been said in this video and others.
Longer wavelengths can see earlier parts of the universe which we couldn't see before. We don't really know what we're going to see with it, and that's the value of this telescope that you wouldn't get from something that is merely better than Hubble.
PBS Space Time did a good video on it already: ua-cam.com/video/kw-Rs6I2H5s/v-deo.html I had nothing to add.
After one year of operation and exciting results: No one asks about the money anymore 😂
We still ask about how long it took.
@@chrimonyGood thing you have videos like this to answer, then.
@@jayjasespud There's no good answer. They messed up.
This was really good! I really liked the history and background content tied into the science! Definitely make more of these! 🎉❤
Big shoutout to ESA and Ariane Space as well.
Congrats on getting in on Nebula!! You once told me that you'd love to, and now you're there. Awesome. (Also, I know it's been about two weeks since you posted this and you probably won't see it, but I'm super happy for you.)
Thanks! It's been a long time coming. It should provide some stability 👍
The way Mr.Beat pulls that off deserves some kind of award!
I love the dry humor 😆
Alright, that's a pretty solid investigation of the historical record, and I'm glad to be made aware of it. In general I would say I'm apprehensive naming things after people though. I'd rather we just didn't. But I'll own the fact that this is mostly a vague emotional position that I can't rationalize, and I wouldn't expect that to mean anything.
wow. I'm old. I still remember salivating over Kepler being launched 2 years before they launched it.
On behalf of all overly-straightforward people, thank you Mr. Beat for the heads clarification
This is amazing. Thank you for the deep dive into the history.
Hello. It is not only american history Nick. The more you learn about history in general the more you want to cry, cry and cry.
I always thought not naming the telescope to a scientist was the weird thing.
Oh yeah, it's definitely weird. It's just not _offensive._
@@ScienceAsylum yeah I learned more about Webb (the person) only recently. You explained it very well. Turns out Webb actually tried working against bigotry.
But we also must not forget the environment is a major influencer on behavior and people tend to be scared of things they don’t understand. Doesn’t mean they are evil though.
I just love the historical perspective you show us! Thanks Professor Nick!
Awesome video about the James Webb telescope 👌✨✨✨✨✨
Didn't see that you had popped up on Nebula, nice, instant follow.
The one factor which applies to every telescope is
"Size Matters".
Great video as always. The JWST is truly a wondrous accomplishment and shows what the human race is capable of when we put our minds and investment to it.
If limited budget can build something like this, just imagine what humans can build if there are no war and no military spendings.
Not much, rockets were developed by the military.
@@wally7856 Because something arose from X doesn't mean it had to arise from X or otherwise not exist. In the world OP is imagining, some other path would most certainly exist.
@@Sonny_McMacsson Then he needs to stop imagining and wake up. In a world full of humans, war and military spending is how technology moves forward.
@@wally7856 False, most scientific advancement was made purely for the sake of scientific curiosity.
@@wally7856 No, he doesn't. How things are isn't a good reason to keep them that way or not aim for better. Humans doing something also isn't definitive evidence that humans are innately that way. I'd say imagination and want to improve is more awake than someone asleep justifying the status quo.
Also, the military and war being what moves tech forward is B.S. and it should be obvious enough that's the case. It being A way doesn't make it essential nor mean other things ways don't. Many of us have made things because we like to do it and military applications were never a factor.
Not a site I would think to go to for history, but well done. Thanks!❤️
Another great video. Mr. Beat was a good addition.
Agree. I was happy to have him make an appearance.
I disagree. The Mr Beat skit spent a minute to say what could have been said in 10 seconds, in order to tell lame jokes.
@@brothermine2292 Ah, you prefer pure educational content. Mr Beat and I make EDUtainment content. You seem to be in a _slightly_ wrong corner of UA-cam.
@@ScienceAsylum : Why would you conclude that because I found Mr Beat's humor lame, that I don't appreciate your humor more? The fact that I've viewed many of your videos is strong evidence that you're mistaken.
I was lucky enough to take a tour of Tinsley Lab's facility (then recently acquired by L3) when they were working on JWST mirrors. Little did I know how long it would take to get them to L2!
13:37 "hexagos are the bestagons" ✨
Marvel: Avengers Affinity War is the most ambitious crossover event in history
The Science Asylum and Mr Beat: allow us to introduce ourselves
Whoa! That was a trip! Excellent video!!
They probably had to spend a few millions more just to investigate about this quote
... and that's why the politicians managing the JWT program were sent to UK, to manage the HS2.program.
Out of 10 billion dollars, 8 billion ended in someone else’s pockets.
I want to be Nasa scientist, I wanna eat 10 billion pie too!!!
Another video from my favorite channel
Thaks for the history leason. The history of science is a passions of mine. Your should do more, the timeline is great.
It's also a passion of mine. I can't fully understand something until I get into the history behind it.
@@ScienceAsylum Can judge it through the lens of today's standards versus standards of the time? Just asking
The show "For All Mankind" touched on the lavender scare in and around NASA. The "scare" was that people with a different sexual orientation were more vulnerable to blackmail because they would be ostracized by society and would lose their job at NASA if it became public.
You'd think the solution was to _not_ ostracize them, so that they'd be _less_ vulnerable... but at the time, they decided to do the exact opposite and just double down on the paranoia.
(the show is pretty good for the first two seasons or so btw)
So you think changing the mindset of all Americans about a group of people would have been easier than preventing a small minority of people from occupying certain jobs? People who are more vulnerable to blackmail have always been a national security threat.
@@MrAlRats I mean, they made it worse, and the gay people are just going to hide and keep working. It's not exactly a genius strategy.
@@MrAlRats If you control whether you hire them, you can make it clear that you won't fire people for that reason, and that you'd support them through any hardships they face.
@@MrAlRats Yeah, becaue I highly doubt that "all Americans" had that mindset.
And making things worse for vulnerable people only makes them even more vulnerable. So that angle is completely backwards anyway.
@@bierrollerful You're delusional. The vast majority of people in America at the time found homosexuality to be disgusting. Most people would disown their children if they came out as homosexual. Homosexuals were legitimately concerned about being ostracised by their family members and friends. And anybody who has a secret can be blackmailed into leaking classified info or sabotaging critical projects. Making vulnerable people more vulnerable is not a concern. National security is far more important.
I don't really care what Webb thought or did, it was 1950 ffs, a completely different time and set of norms.
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Thank you European Space Agency for launching JWST, and for doing a fantastic job extending its lifetime!!!! 👏🏼🚀
"I don't have any grass" lol! instant classic!
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...unfolded et cetera. Pun intended.
Good to see you in good shape Nick. 🤗
Keep posting we're watching, large view count don't matter if their not "loyal" views. You'll always have "crazie" fan in me.
I made something a little different than usual and a lot of people don't like that. I bet the video will find its audience eventually. #NoRegrets
@@ScienceAsylum at least your not taking sponsorships that might compromise your fan loyalty 😂 take the sponsorship but still have a critical thinking and probing point of view. I think the formula for you have works great, simple explanations, no "wooing" the crowd with jargon, or focusing on visuals without a comprehensive explanation. Among your peers, you were the one that started my interest in science, I downloaded your book (free pdf, forgive me🥺) and I like your approach with the clones, and "people in the comments typing", and having your loving wife be apart of your growth. 💪 Great men aren't supposed to please everybody, only those that matter lol To put it simply, when I watch one of your peers videos, I gotta rewatch it a couple time to understand (go figure) but I only have to watch your videos once to understand.
Nice collab!
Thanks! We're friends, so making cameos in each other's videos isn't uncommon.
Thank you Mr Nick Lucid, much love from South Africa
13:37 love the reference
Thanks for this view back over this wonderful telescope!
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@ScienceAsylum always!
It'd be cool if the telescope was 10m in diameter.
100m would be even cooler. A constellation of JWSTs at each planet's oitside Lagrange point forming a real-time telescope of dozens of AU in diameter would be nuts, and completely possible with today's technology.
As a queer person in STEM, **thank you so much for this video**!! It genuinely acknowledges the horrors that happened to us under the US government, but clarifies point by point with facts instead of picking an easy scapegoat. This was brilliantly done, great content!!
Thanks for letting me know. I was a little worried I wasn't doing the topic justice.
Even if he had said it; As a gay man, I’m personally okay with the naming of the JWST. While I value the controversy and the conversations it fosters, I acknowledge the naming honors Webb's work at NASA and in no material way serves to platform or perpetuate any wrongheaded, discriminatory beliefs he held.
I think this serves as a good teachable moment, perhaps now more than ever before we must learn how to distinguish between the faults and virtues of historic and public figures.
This isn’t a tacit prescription, for how to handle every problematic figure, but I think it's exemplary of the attitude we should strive to take when addressing these matters. While we should not turn a blind eye to such ill revelations, we should neither jump to strike from history or remembrance, those tainted but otherwise deserving. We can leverage, celebrate, and remember their works and greatness while we acknowledge, contextualize, and mourn their harm and failures.
Our virtue and capacity to achieve greatness is matched if not exceeded by our ignorance, short-sightedness, and propensity for fear. This is true of us all, the best and the worst; it's innate to our humanity.
Definitely the craziest episode I've ever seen!
"the buck stops here" sign continues to be the most ironic object ever to occupy the oval office
What we learned today?
Hexagons are bestagons!
Jokes aside, is hurtful to know you can stand for equality to the point of resigning a very important job, just to have a few people in the future decades accusing you of being exactly the kind of person you opposed for the sake of visibility and controversy. Almost as hurtful as admitting the budget for spacial investigation is so small... almost as hurtful as recognizing in the present day that were facing the same social problems we faced 70 years ago and learned almost nothing.
Yes. Learning history isn't always a pleasant experience, specially when politics come to the table. But is necessary if we want to build a better world. Thank you for sharing this with us.
Adapt or Atrophy: ten years of remixes is a great intro into Everything but the Girl
13:38 Hexagons ARE the bestagons, indeed!
I would go with Telescopy McTelescopeface to avoid controversy.
Funny that: Antony Blinken -> A. Blinken -> Abe Lincoln
I would totally be cool with scopey mcscopeface.
Loved the “hexagons are the bestagons” shout-out to CGP Gray.
True, but that space CGI are worth it.
Hexagons ARE the Bestagons!
shoutout to your- no, THE best april's fool joke
How do you always make videos about things I had random conversation about the same day?
Maybe I'm reading your mind? 🤔 Nah.
I remember when a scientist got fired a few years ago for having pictures of women on his tshirt when he landed a probe onto a moving asteroid.
Maybe you should look into that again. As far as I can tell Matt Taylor is still working at Esa.
The thing that always bugs me about criticisms of NASA that focus on the spending, is it's not like the 10 billion dollars ended up floating in space; it was wages and material costs. It went *into* the economy. The people and organisations that make and build the stuff got the money. Sure the materials end up in space, but the money ultimately just goes back into the economy where it goes round and round compensating people for their time, and then being spent to compensate other people for their time, who then spend it to compensate *more* people for their time. Also, as you say, NASA is far from a significant portion of US spending...
You can say the same thing about the defence budget (ignoring the corruption) and almost all government spending.
You're ultimately saying that NASA is good because it's a "job creator." But that metric isn't valuable because the jobs here could be something worthless and then real people would waste real time on something that has no value.
Ultimately, you do have to defend the value of science to defend NASA. The problem with everyone else is that they don't value science.
@@johnsmith34 Or, you could just leave science to the private sector and you still get things like iPhones, etc . . . .
@@fewwiggle Some things should get done even if they aren't profitable. The private sector won't do those things.
LMFAO the "i thought nasa was apart of the exec branch" part 🤭
Wow this video went off the rails quickly.... I take it as how much work it takes to clear someone of a cancel offense vs the ease of cancelling them in the first place.
I tried to make it 10 minute video, but the topic wouldn't allow it. Honestly, I wanted to talk more about the Lavender Scare, but pure history isn't really what I do here.
@@ScienceAsylum To be honest its not your field. That is more about history you are more about teaching science topics. I expected the video to be about The technical challenges in building the thing, not a 7 min history lesson about the namesake. If that was the case you should have made the title of your video "How naming the James Webb telescope was a nightmare"
The video just seems a little disengenerous.
I thought it was really interesting. Once you mention that aspect of the nightmare, and of course you have to, you can't just yada yada yada it. The explanation of the infra red spectra was super too. Good job Science Asylum.
@@athirkell My original plan was a technical episode about how the telescope works with some sides notes about the budgets/delays. The video itself had other plans. Once I learned about all this, how could I _not_ talk about it? This is obviously the leading story here. Who knows. Maybe this will free me up to do the technical episode now (but I don't know if I can top the Real Engineering episode).
@@ScienceAsylum i was expecting (and hoping) just that, a technical explanation or an update what it achieved until now. Instead its a story that the budget became inflated (who cares, happens all the time with big projects) and about almost not naming it after James Webb, the man was perhaps anti gay ("homophobic"lmao) so from scientific achiever he becomes a paria. just crazy.
The WEBB its such an achievement, no matter "overbudgetting" or somebody was "homophobic"....
The Keyboard Warrior Clone, lowkey has good questions 😅
PLEASE do a video on spinors!
i loved this new style of video so much!!
Thanks!
Thanks for the incredible summary, had this at the back of my head for sometime
Glad it was helpful! 🙂
The aliens should help pay back all we invested trying to locate them. Heck, they’ll probably do the same when they see us.
As Senator Everett Dirksen from Illinois once said, "A few billion here, a few billion there, and pretty soon your talking about real money". $10,000,000,000 is a very small drop in a very large bucket.
"The mid-1900s..."
Oh, lort. I AM SO OLD.
I've never heard of the lavender scare. This is a really important video.
Everyone should know about it.
"...but I don't have any grass!"
- Mr. Beat
This Mr. Beat-Guy looks like he was present at the demon core incident....
Thanks for setting the record straight on James Webb. To this day I still hear people angrily wondering why they named the telescope after him. Now I can just send them to this video to set them straight.
splicing in someone else's sub-par recording definitely makes us appreciate the quality of your audio.😅
Hexagons are without any doubt the bestagons.
We live in the era of people's personal opinions decades ago on completely unrelated topics wiping off their entire achievements. Snowflakes for sure
Hi. What do you use to make the Timeline graphics used in the video? I like the visuals.
It's After Effects. I designed the graphic myself as a template a few years ago and then update it periodically (when I learn new things).
Yay new video!
I was thinking about something unrelated to this video.
Since the universe is expanding, you can say the future of every object points away from us.
It's analog to being in a 4 dimensional universe where the direction of time points away from the origin.
I am not sure if it works with relativity since i didn't study all the equations.
I can explain more if someone wants.
I saw it while it was being built. I wanted to tighten a bolt, but they would let me (just wanted to be able to say I worked on it) lol.
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