The Big Ten, Cal, Stanford, and FOX Will All REGRET Not Making a Deal With Each Other
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- Опубліковано 24 лют 2024
- The Big Ten wanted Cal and Stanford. Cal and Stanford wanted the Big Ten.
So why are they set to join the ACC? Garrett Searight argues both sides will regret not working out a partnership.
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The Big 10 won't regret anything. They can get those schools anytime they want.
Maybe not Cal but Stanford, yes. Stanford is the best athletic department in the nation. More national championships in a variety of sports than any campus. They belong in the BIG10.
Most are in sports most Big 10 teams don’t care about
@@brianyoungberg9904no one cares or watches
Yeah, mostly national championships in sports that nobody cares about and don’t generate any revenue
@@shybone6833 True, but the universities support the sports. If you're going to play you might as well try to win. Seems pointless to have the sports otherwise.
Stanford is now in the ACC next to ND which will make it easier for them to join the B10 as partners as FSU makes the acc fall. The B10 didn't want cal
The B1G would rather wait on Notre Dame and Florida State. Nobody is going to get fired if one day the B1G changes it’s mind about Stanford and Cal
ND really pushed for their rival Stanford and Cal to the ACC. They just extended their TV contract with NBC until 2030 too. Just don't think the Irish are going anywhere. They have everything they want.
😂😂😂and nothing they need😂😂😂😂
Except money in an NIL era@@vistatiger7493and more interesting bigger games with more rivalries geographically and historically
@@vistatiger7493 The B1G members still make more money then ND. So when the B1G starts paying their players they will be able to pay them more then ND can, so they will have better ones. That's why ND needs to join the B1G to close the financial gap and remain relevant because they are going to fall behind with the G-7s.
I thought the Big 10 should have brought in Cal and Stanford while they aren’t powers in Football they are both powers in other sports and the Bay Area is a very lucrative TV market. Academically Cal and Stanford are superior to all other Big 10 Universities. If Fox is willing to pay for Rutgers and Maryland why not Cal and Stanford? Much richer alumni base.
No one cares about other sports and no one watches Cal or Stanford anywhere.
That doesn't watch calford!
The B1G should have invited them as long as they didn't have to pay them for the remainder of their new TV contract so they could pay their dues and build their program up to the B1G standards.
So the B1G is a charity now 🤔
I agree think cal and Stanford should be in the big 10 not acc
I think the Big10 presidents wanted Stanford and Cal -- academic prestige, top tier athletic departments (Stanford has more national championships than anyone), occasional football success. But Fox Sports told them no dice, and money talks. Academics is a footnote now, not a main concern.
i would have added them just on the bay area tv market
yeah, lots of B1G alumni in SF and Silicon Valley
Why would Fox pay for them. Particularly Cal.
Cal has an alumni base that is as rich as any. Thats why they are the people advertisers want to reach.
@@matthewhuszarik4173 But they don't care about football or they both would have decent football programs. They obviously have plenty of resources. They just don't take it seriously so, like Duke and Kansas, now they are paying the price for it.
SF market for the other B1G teams. No 10 TV market nationally.
@@atgdcommish608 the B1G could have offered, but did not. Cal is of no value. USC/UCLA also have fans in SF market. Stanford might not go anywhere without Cal, which probably ends any deal at all for the Cardinal.
Why in the hell would the B1G or Fox pay more for Stanford and Cal 😂😂😂😂😂😂 this is a pure 🤡 take.
Maybe ND will come with Stanford. Plus Stanford is in the San Fran/Oakland/San Jose TV market and they have more money then any other school. So they have a lot of potential, they just need to start taking football seriously and they could be a powerhouse.
@roris5882 that's the issue though. They refuse to take football seriously. With the transfer portal they will never win again unless they loosen their transfer rules. Also the early signing period requires them to accept athletes earlier, which they refused to do. If they don't change, they have no potential. We already have Indiana, we don't need another 1.
Willner😂😂😂😂😂the guy who said that the pac was staying together😂😂😂😂😂Gooooo Bluuuuuueeeeee Baby!
The Big 10 should get to 24 teams in four divisions. So as quickly as possible add six more teams. Notre Dame, Cal, Stanford, FSU, Clemson, and North Carolina or a Texas team.
ND, FSU, Texas A&M, UNC, Clemson, and Stanford, in order from most valuable to least, to the B1G.
Then the B1G should figure out a way to ditch Northwestern, Indiana, and Purdue, because they don't need 3 schools in the state of Indiana or a tiny Chicago school with the addition of ND. Then add Arizona State, UVA, Utah and Colorado to get to 25 schools. They would be swimming in cashola.
I am very glad you don't run the B1G
Recent events suggest that UNC is now wisely leaning SEC, which would be the far better choice than your scenario.
@@tarheel7406 So the State Board is going to allow NC State to get left behind? The only way both UNC and NC State are getting into the Super League is if UNC heads to the B1G, because of their academic, and NC State heads to the SEC, because they want to expand their regional footprint into NC.
@@roris5882 I'd rather UNC go SEC with NCSTATE than go B1G under any current likely ACC scatter.
The demo trends will most likely cause core B1G schools to decline academically, the cost of maintaining current levels of undergrad enrollment.
As things stand, I can see UVA, UNC, DUKE & CLEMSON as a 4-bloc to the SEC for a 20 goal,
Athletic dollars are chump change in comparison to academic research dollars. The Big Ten should have taken Stanford and Cal for non-athletic reasons. Universities tend to establish academic/research institutional relationships based on conference membership. The Big Ten screwed up here.
The educational endowments are NOT shared!!!! The B1G wouldn’t see a dime of Stanfords or Cal’s endowments. They share the research information, not the money.
The ONLY revenue shared between conference members is sports revenue from the media rights contract. That’s it. Right now, that pays out $60 million plus per B1G member from Fox, NBC, and CBS. So unless a team can bring in the required tv audience, there’s NO invite. Both Cal and Stanford rank in the mid 40’s when it comes to the most watched college football teams. They don’t garnish enough eyeballs for the media giants to pay out extra.
Great institutions, great sports programs, horrible fan base. Not enough fans follow these two teams on tv.
Stanford has the No. 1 athletic department in the nation (number of national championships in all sports). Cal isn't far behind. This was purely a football TV viewership decision to exclude them.
@@atgdcommish608
You are correct, but they don’t bring in the tv audience that earns them a share that pays out $60-$70 million per team annually.
This boils down to who can bring in the most eyeballs? Oregon ranks anywhere from 10-15 most watched team in the nation. Washington is anywhere from 15-25 nationally ranked most viewed team. Stanford is typically in the 40’s. They do have some good years, but generally, they are in the middle. So unless Notre Dame demands Stanford to join the B1G to go along with their B1G acceptance, Stanford is low on their list.
That’s the reality. Fox isn’t paying for sports that doesn’t make them revenue from advertisements. That’s what this is about. Selling advertisements.
@jimedick9496 Stanford's shared research would net less than 60 million per B1G school??? IS that what you really think???? Are you serious?
Let's have a look see what Wikipedia says about CALford.....
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According to PitchBook, from 2006 to 2017, Stanford produced 1,127 company founders as alumni or current students, more than any other university in the world; and these founders created 957 companies, second only to UC Berkeley in the world.[9][10] In addition, according to a Stanford alumni survey conducted in 2011, some 39,900 companies founded by Stanford alumni were active, and companies founded by Stanford alumni altogether generated more than $2.7 trillion in annual revenue and had created 5.4 million jobs, roughly equivalent to the 10th-largest economy in the world (2011).
ECONOMIC footprint the size of FRANCE!
The Cardinal has won 163 national team championships overall.
Please tell us you're not one of the low grade morons who believe Notre Dame only begged for the Legends series in 1988 because they just wanted a roadtrip to California every season?
PAC never had an acedemic alliance on par with the B1G 10AA.
The internship opportunities that come with the BTAA would probably be worth the 60M all on their own.
Does this guy know that the Big Ten Academic Alliance made $10 billion dollars in research money annually? Take your 1 billion a year TV contract and shove it😂
Both Cal and Stanford are far superior research schools than any in the Big 10
😂😂😂😂😂 this is so stupid, I don't know where to start.
Nonsense. The BTAA is a conduit not a generator.
"Someday, and that day may never come, I will call upon you to do a service for me."
Stanford can be the package with ND
As a Pac refugee and now a Big Ten alumnus, I can speak on this since I watch the whole thing go down.
First, Wilner might have been the first national reporter to be on it, but it was the day of the announcement, so not really impressive.
Truth is Greg Flugaur and @mhver3 told those of us that were paying attention in April. I can give links if needed.
2nd, Wilner and Canzano had literally the worst information after that news was announced. They were more wrong than anyone because they were being used by their sources in the Bay Area (Cal and Stanford sources) and the Pacific Northwest (Chair of the Pac presidents group, Schultz, among others) to spread misinformation to help advance the negotiations.
Canzano (Wilner's podcast partner) even admitted this himself recently.
The B1G is in a tough spot on this question. The west coast is a declining market for college football, as evidenced by USC et. al. having to leave the PAC. On the other hand, to address demo concerns, the B1G needs to effectively and heavily expand south. If 24 is the assumed limit, the B1G has already gone to heavy west.
If 24 is the limit, CAL/STANFORD are inevitable, and #24 will be reserved for ND, that's three slots left. Not enough for that heavy enough expansion south, but the best likely available that are in brand enough would be GATECH, FSU & MIAMI.
Hey stanford and cal, you wanna come ..... sure!
I can see Stanford and Cal being the 23rd and 24th for the B1G, and then be done with realignment. They need to get FSU/ND/Miami/GT first.
Stanford and ND are private schools as is their research and internship alliance. We can only guess...but I'd say it's safe to imagine that ND will not want to lose access and connections built up over 35 years, for a few football crumbs.
Stanford & Cal will eventually end up in the B1G.
Cal never. Stanford? I guess that it is possible
Zero chance. They dont bring anything
@@brianyoungberg9904 proper pronouns
Not cal. Stanford yea
How much you want to bet?
He was so wrong on the where the PAC 12 was going. He wrong more than he is right
Bottom line is that Washington, Oregon, USC, UCLA, Stanford and Cal belong in a college athletic conference. If not the B1G, a conference of their own. Hope to see it sooner or later.
The west coast can no longer support a Tier 1 conference. USC had to pick a poison.
If the B1G is really that serious about their academics, they would not leave Cal and Stanford on the table for long. However with the current situation in the ACC, they may come in with Notre Dame so ND could preserve their Norcal presence and those games will remain in conference.
Stanford makes too much sense as a Partner with ND. The B10 just didn't want Cal. Cal could join the Ivy league when the acc collapses.
The B1G presidents care about academics, but Fox Sports writes the checks for TV and said no thanks.
The elephant in the room is wben can we kick out Northwestern and Purdue?
Purdue is a rival to ND. No. Northwestern isn't going anywhere. More like Maryland and Rutgers
The B1G doesn't need 3 teams in a rinky dink state, with mediocre recruiting, like Indiana and ND is more popular in Chicago then Northwestern. So when they add ND the B1G won't need Northwestern, Purdoodoo, or Indiana for football because they drag the value of the conference down.
@@roris5882 it's not all about football
@@Mike-sp7zv The D1 College Football Super League is all about football. Some teams will be in and some won't because the big brands and football blue bloods want to maximize their revenue so they can pay their players, like they soon will be legally required to. They don't want the bottom feeders leaching off of them because they refuse to pull their own weight.
@@roris5882 Having a team like Northwestern helps the schedules of Ohio State or Penn State. The blue blood football programs like Bama like having to play Kentucky in football. Nobody wants to play Florida's schedule this upcoming year except for fans who want their coach fired.