Jaguar XJ-S - From Calamity to Classic

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  • Опубліковано 15 лис 2021
  • Good morning! :D
    In a story I've been eager to tell for a long time, we trace the history of the Jaguar XJ-S, a car that started life in a catastrophic whirlwind of bad press and customer reviews as it was launched during the darkest days of British Leyland's nadir, only to find a second wind during the 1980s, when BL's great folly rapidly became the must-have luxury Grand Tourer for the upwardly mobile youth.
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  • @andrewdevine3920
    @andrewdevine3920 2 роки тому +130

    Why can't I stop watching these stories about the British car industry? They are like a never-ending Greek tragedy.

    • @fuckfannyfiddlefart
      @fuckfannyfiddlefart 2 роки тому +3

      You cannot overcome the contradictions of CAPITALISM in CAPITALISM.

    • @K1lostream
      @K1lostream 2 роки тому +3

      You must keep going over the same time periods - the British car industry story ended alright! :(
      All we do now is sell financial services and, once the Indians and Chinese realise they can do their own financial services, we'll be proper fscked!

    • @simonf8902
      @simonf8902 2 роки тому +12

      The fascination of a slowly evolving disaster is fascinating.
      So much potential wasted by petty stupidity, selfishness and a very British class based worker/ management system.

    • @dew98
      @dew98 2 роки тому +4

      Exactly! mergers, constant changes in management and short and long term objectives of companies and government, no intelligent cooperation or dialogue between management and 'workers'. It is still a problem in the UK

    • @adamchurvis1
      @adamchurvis1 2 роки тому +1

      @@dew98 Yet these same men with their hands on the ship's wheel make 319 TIMES their average employee's salary. That's average, not lowest-paid, and that's a real figure. WHO ARE THESE FUCKING LITTLE MEN?!

  • @BlackRose-vi2yg
    @BlackRose-vi2yg Рік тому +2

    My dad worked for jaguar in the Midlands. Always thought the XJS was something out of space. Beautiful car for sure

  • @kenbradley5035
    @kenbradley5035 Рік тому +2

    I had one in the 80s and I've just invested in a 4.0 convertible. The Celebration model 1995-6 Is the culmination of 21 years of constant improvements, having many body modification such a galvanised & strengthened chassis, while under the bonnet were more than a 100 updates including a stiffened alloy engine block, improvements to the cylinder head and air-flow, 10-1 compression etc. and for me no huge overhanging body over skinny wheels.

  • @wan4891
    @wan4891 2 роки тому +7

    Living in the Netherlands, I own since 10 years a 1995 convertible 4.0 in pristine condition, which was inported from the US / Arizona.
    She is a real beauty and very rare here and only a handfull are for sale.
    Once, Princess Diana had one 🙂

  • @nicholasfitzsimmons7311
    @nicholasfitzsimmons7311 2 роки тому +22

    My favourite car of almost all time, although not the one I'd most like to live with forever.

  • @LennonRamone
    @LennonRamone 2 роки тому +58

    Great video- Just a couple factual inaccuracies. The V12 was never dropped from the XJS lineup. In fact, '94 was the year they enlarged the V12 to 6.0 liters. That engine was offered through the end of XJS production in 1996.

    • @LaurentiusTriarius
      @LaurentiusTriarius 2 роки тому +2

      In Canada & US if I remember correctly the only XJS in the last year was a fully optioned 4.2 with 2/3 colors available... Or at least that was the case when I test drove one with my grandpa around the end of 1995.

    • @LennonRamone
      @LennonRamone 2 роки тому +10

      @@LaurentiusTriarius The XJS was never offered with a 4.2, maybe you're thinking of the 4L AJ6/16 that was used from '92-'96. But the V12 was always an option, and in fact the very last XJS coupe assembled, which is now in the Jaguar Heritage Trust museum, had the 6.0 V12. Not sure how many 6.0s went to Canada but there are still a few here in the US.

    • @LaurentiusTriarius
      @LaurentiusTriarius 2 роки тому +2

      @@LennonRamone yes! 4.0 I was confused I'm not a jag specialist the XJS was just special it felt "old world" back then, probably even more now (;

    • @judethaddaeus9742
      @judethaddaeus9742 2 роки тому +3

      Also, the 928 wasn’t dropped until the end of 1995, just a year prior to the XJS. The video makes it sound like the 928 was dropped sometime in the early-1990s.

    • @andredeketeleastutecomplex
      @andredeketeleastutecomplex 2 роки тому

      Another factual mistake: "Jaguar makes cars" 😺

  • @ziggurat-builder8755
    @ziggurat-builder8755 2 роки тому +6

    When I see one, I always think it looks like a shark. It is a very sexy beast.

  • @aaronleverton4221
    @aaronleverton4221 2 роки тому +13

    First time I saw one was in the city in 1987 (rural Australia wasn't exactly awash in Jags), it was a light metallic blue and and the flying buttresses just ticked my boxes. Also, I couldn't believe that such a large car could be made to look so small. Have liked these ever since, never been in one, let alone driven one, but I still want it.

  • @captainswoop8722
    @captainswoop8722 2 роки тому +3

    Favourite car. I have had 3 V12 HEs over the years. All well sorted and never had any problems.

  • @edsmith1158
    @edsmith1158 Рік тому +3

    From the 90’s on the XJS was actually very reliable. Ford spent a lot of money revising it.

  • @dewiz9596
    @dewiz9596 2 роки тому +10

    I was in California on business in 1981. We were provided with a Jaguar to “get around”. . . It would quit for “no good reason”, and we’d have to wait a good while before getting going again.
    Finally, 40 years later, by watching this program, I know why. Thank you.

  • @smorris12
    @smorris12 2 роки тому +12

    Loved seeing the xjs in Return of the Saint when I was a kid

  • @okeyezeilo6187
    @okeyezeilo6187 2 роки тому +10

    Lovely car...very. To me, its clean lines put the convertible among the prettiest of all time...

  • @dmrowell1
    @dmrowell1 2 роки тому +4

    I never liked the rear of the coupe with its (flying) buttresses, etc.
    So I bought a 1995 4.0L convertible. It was delivered in Aug 1994, and I've had it, ever since. Love it.

  • @TheChill001
    @TheChill001 2 роки тому +13

    I've lusted after these for years, ever since I was a kid when one of my schoolteachers actually had one of these as a daily driver.

    • @johnennis4586
      @johnennis4586 2 роки тому +1

      Was it Sunday school. One of those couldn't start on 5 of the 7 days!

  • @torresalex
    @torresalex 2 роки тому +13

    Great video. Those XJS's practically ooze style and effortless cruising

  • @scottleyva8656
    @scottleyva8656 2 роки тому +3

    We had a 1995 XJS for 14 years until 2009. Overall, a great car that I think is still one of the most beautiful ever made!

  • @swannvictor1388
    @swannvictor1388 2 роки тому +3

    I was 10 years old when it was first spotted by car magazines and I loved it! A few years later, a schoolfriend with rich folks, had a three-year old model given to him for his 18th birthday and it was the first car I ever drove (I was 15) and IT WAS FANTASTIC! What a wagon: took off like a scalded cat and was utterly silent! Alas...that car never went more then 50 miles without breaking down! But it was lovely and comfortable to sit in, waiting for the breakdown truck....

  • @dew98
    @dew98 2 роки тому +4

    I had the first model XJ6 and then two of the longer models. All were great to drive but were badly assembled and were in for service often. When the XJS was introduced I got one and, although it isn't mentioned here, it wasn't fuel injected and had 6 SU's. It was also at the time that emission standards were being introduced world wide and although the car was extremely fast, it drank petrol and on a trip you had to stop for fuel often. Another problem was the Dunlop 'sticky' tyres that were fitted as standard. There were many high speed tyre failures with more than 10 fatalities. I only found out about this when I had a blowout at over 200KPH and the car ended up inverted 600 metres later spinning on the roof. Three broken ribs (seatbelt) and a dislocated shoulder! The car was a right off and I replaced it with the new fuel injected model.It was smooth and nice to drive, but lacked the fantastic acceleration of the SU Carbies! The tyres on existing cars were replaced by Jaguar. The fuel economy was hopeless. It was setup to comply with the new emission standards and that waa a factor. The 90 litre tank needed topping up all the time. There was a cartoon in a Sydney daily showing an XJS (mine) being refuelled by an attendant and the caption was, "Mr Watts, turn off the engine, it's gaining on me". The cartoonist was a friend of mine. When I got rid of it I switched to Mercedes and at 85 still drive one today. Reliable, comfortable and practical. But I'd love to have a Jag in the garage for 'fine days and feast days'. David Watts.

    • @nikjames2965
      @nikjames2965 2 роки тому +1

      It actually had 4 carburettors - not 6

    • @dew98
      @dew98 2 роки тому +1

      @@nikjames2965 I'm showing my age! You are of course correct.

    • @dew98
      @dew98 2 роки тому +2

      I'm showing my age! You are of course correct, the original XJS had four carburettors. I have just looked at the photos of the wreck, I thought I might be able to see them, but I can't.

    • @mebsrea
      @mebsrea 2 роки тому +1

      @@dew98 It's a pretty terrifying crash if you might be able to spot bits of the fuel intake system in the wreckage!

  • @kevmagill5163
    @kevmagill5163 2 роки тому +5

    It's great that now the styling of the XJS is being appreciated...especially the older tail light models in coupe form....great video and information.

  • @petehalasz7547
    @petehalasz7547 2 роки тому +3

    For my son's sixteenth birthday, I offered any car he wanted (of course within reason and budget).. he said I want the 86 xjs that I had stored for years..it was my wife's daily driver. Never skipped a beat.. my son and I have now spent the year creating a custom xjs for him. All hand polished engine, all intakes were removed shaved and filled any holes and highly polished, custom 3" snorkel custom interior, blasted and powder coated suspension, every nut, bolt, screws and springs are in stainless steel.. custom 18"×8.5" wheels, original TWR body kit. All other components are either chromed or powder coated.. should be on the road this summer.. it is worth every penny being with my son and daughter working on this car, talking, laughing and learning.. they almost didn't know this joke covid FLU existed... now all his friends are dying to help or find an old jag.. I have worked on almost every jag, the xjs is still the most beautiful.. no doubt, the most beautiful lines to me is XJ220..it's unfortunate, corrupt egotistical executives always ruin companies..

  • @simonf8902
    @simonf8902 2 роки тому +6

    It looks much better now than at release.

  • @ouethojlkjn
    @ouethojlkjn Рік тому +1

    I fell for the charms of the mighty V12 XJ-S when a friend turned up in a Guards Red black leather 1976 example (he worked for a car dealer Mann Egerton at the time). Off we blasted into the middle distance and 14 years later, aged 25, I bought my own 1982 H.E. V12 in light metallic Blue. So began a two year long financial disaster which could be summed up nicely by my then mechanic "Staf" saying "Whoever sold you this car wants putting up against a wall and shooting". However, the car itself, when behaving, was incredible. It could do 90mph in first gear and with the limited slip diff I could out accelerate anything away from the lights going home along Baker Street. Would I have another one? Yes indeed I would! I have my eye on a gorgeous mint 1994 convertible being auctioned at Yorkshire based Mathewsons! P.S. The XJ-S V12 holds the unofficial "official" record for completing the legendary "Cannonball Run" in the quickest ever time.

  • @adrianrutterford762
    @adrianrutterford762 2 роки тому +6

    I remember seeing (in the 70s) an early XJS.
    Orange (lemon) peel paint.
    Always in the garage being fixed.

  • @brianwood9913
    @brianwood9913 2 роки тому +3

    I had an early rubber bumper Squadron Blue manual XJ-S in the late 80's the last of the 16 Jags I owned. Wonderful ride, super quiet, the only trouble that 16mpg thirst. With a young growing family it had to go and be replaced by more mundane family friendly machines.

  • @davehitchman5171
    @davehitchman5171 2 роки тому +6

    it was always a lovely car, had it not come after the etype it would have been loved from the outset

  • @adams7405
    @adams7405 2 роки тому +4

    Great video.Had a black manual V12 way back in 1978.Thirsty but Great to drive,got the H.E in 1981 at is launch.Nice to see they are regarded as classics.Fast forward 40 years and I have an EV,which is probably as fast and as quiet but not quite the same.And where as in the XJS you could glance down at those instruments for one second to see all was well with that single line I am now presented with a tablet thing to do anything.........

    • @ouethojlkjn
      @ouethojlkjn Рік тому +1

      Yes I had an old V12 XJ-S many many moons ago and now it's a Tesla Model 3. I will stick with the EV but I have seen more than a few XJ-S EV conversions.....

  • @Spearax
    @Spearax 2 роки тому +19

    Thanks for the video. Had 2 of these. An XJ-SC and a late model XJS. Both wonderful GT cars. I have not been in anything that had the unique feel of its ride, including later Jaguars. A 2 seater that was longer than an estate Volvo. Bonkers... but what a way to travel.

    • @marksbikeexports5123
      @marksbikeexports5123 2 роки тому +4

      I'm glad its not just me. I have a XJS and a XK8, lets put it this way, it's a good thing the XK8 is so pretty because it doesn't make me feel like the XJS does.

    • @lukespector5550
      @lukespector5550 Рік тому

      I'd have one over a contemporary Porsche 928 or BMW 6-series any day. That turbine style delivery of acceleration all the way up to top speed from a paltry 3-speed auto is pretty damn nice.

  • @astonmartin4360
    @astonmartin4360 2 роки тому +2

    No one has ever mentioned that the XJS has a similar front end to the 1961 Rover Gas Turbine (P6 shape).Love the XJS.Subscribed.

  • @williamenglish8847
    @williamenglish8847 2 роки тому +2

    I have a 94 XJS with an LS3 under the hood. Love it!

  • @davekennedy6315
    @davekennedy6315 2 роки тому +9

    I love the Lister Jaguars with the V12 bored out to 7 ltr (and even supercharged too!) Always been a big Jag fan.

    • @TheChill001
      @TheChill001 2 роки тому +2

      that's just a show of exquisite taste xD

    • @Treviscoe
      @Treviscoe 2 роки тому +1

      Yes I agree; they're very rare though and I'm not even sure there are any left.

    • @mebsrea
      @mebsrea 2 роки тому +2

      @@Treviscoe They pop up on auction sites from time to time; I've seen at least two for sale within the past year.

  • @edwardleas592
    @edwardleas592 2 роки тому +3

    This car was the one I worshipped at brigadoon marina. My dad was in secret competition with the owner of this car. If dude had a 37 foot boat. My dad bought a 39 foot sundancer. Thanks to jaguar my dad bought a zr-1.

  • @dennischallinor8497
    @dennischallinor8497 2 роки тому +3

    I had one of those in a roadster. Went like the wind and handled like a go-kart but a mechanical nightmare and to get the combo roof up was enough to make you sell the damn car. What a shame we can see our futures, eh?

  • @leoroverman4541
    @leoroverman4541 2 роки тому +2

    Can always remember blasting past an old codger in his New XJS with old P5 3litre coupe and it's re bored engine and Panels that looked like a paint mishmash in the 1970's down the old A2. I had just run in the engine and given her overdrive for the first time. The look on his face was priceless.

  • @unemeoj
    @unemeoj Рік тому

    The first time I drove an XJS I was 19 years old, this was in the late 1990s. Delivering it to an auto sales lot about 30 kms away. I wondered why people seemed to be driving so slowly that day. Looked at the speedo & I was going 170kms/hour. Effortlessly. Impressed, I then set the cruise control to a more near legal speed. There was (is?) a special quality Jaguars have.

  • @mrflynn01
    @mrflynn01 2 роки тому +5

    I still love the love Jaguar!!!

  • @Hammerhead547
    @Hammerhead547 2 роки тому +3

    Fun Fact:
    One of the first monster trucks ever built (Cliff Starbird's Frankenstein) originally used a jag v12 that was salvaged from a wrecked xjs as its engine.

    • @lukespector5550
      @lukespector5550 6 місяців тому

      Did it LEAK CASTROL over the cars it crushed & jumped over? Did monster trucks with American made engines have to give it a jumpstart?

    • @Hammerhead547
      @Hammerhead547 6 місяців тому

      @lukespector5550
      It was built as a show/exhibition vehicle, but when actual competition for prize money began happening in 1986-87 they switched out the jag engine for a modified GMC small block V8.

  • @kevmagill5163
    @kevmagill5163 2 роки тому +2

    I have a soft spot for the elegant XJS...never really comparing it to the XKE....It's somewhat controversial design has aged gracefully and it seems there is a new resurgence in its popularity among collectors who forsee the XJS as an investment...also a little note...The Mercedes SLC was the lengthened 2+2 version of the SL...easily identified by its longer wheelbase and its silver slats/gills behind the glass in front of the C-pillar...the car you were showing throughout the video was the SL...great video, very informative and helpful in organizing the crazy owner and production chief turnovers at Jaguar during these years.

  • @v10cylinder
    @v10cylinder 2 роки тому +1

    That DB7... its design is for eternity!

  • @LordGoose-zr6jj
    @LordGoose-zr6jj 2 роки тому +2

    I was watching the video and I was like "Huh that first shot is familiar." Its familiar because it was at the classic motor show in November, I went there for my birthday and saw all those cars. Very funny to think that I am now watching a video that includes one of them

  • @gotham61
    @gotham61 2 роки тому +7

    The two Mercedes shown at 8:46 and 13:38 are both SLs not SLCs. The SL is a two seat convertible with both a folding soft top and a removable hard top. The SLC is a similar looking but longer 2+2 fixed head coupe. There never was a 560 SLC. By the time the 560 engine was launched in 1986, the SLC body style had been replaced by the W126 based SEC.

  • @grolfe3210
    @grolfe3210 2 роки тому +8

    It has buttresses not flying buttresses. Buttress is attached at the bottom, flying buttress is like an angled pillar. with a gap under it.

  • @BibtheBoulder
    @BibtheBoulder 2 роки тому +2

    My late step-dad was a senior test driver at Jaguar Browns Lane. He would occasionally take me out in the cars he was testing, and the first time I went in an XJS they were still very much in the experimental stage, surrounded by a plywood casing to stop pictures being taken of it. Inside, the car was bereft of a lot of its final interior, instead just a whole lot of wires. To a small child this was like being in a spaceship.
    Fast forward to the late 90's and I finally got myself a V12, 5.3 model. What a car, but sadly it had massive rust issues.
    Now, in the early 2020's these cars have at last become the collectable (and subsequently expensive) classic I always sort of knew they would be.

    • @lukespector5550
      @lukespector5550 6 місяців тому

      How many failures & fire extinguishers did your stepfather experience driving these Leyland wrecks?

  • @6ettinold
    @6ettinold 2 роки тому +2

    I remember a friend's Dad paying around £45k for a brand new XJS in 1995. It spent 8 out of 12 months he owned it in bits at the dealership. He had 2 replacement gearboxes in an that time and had a multitude of other issues. It always amazed me as Jaguar had had exactly 20 years to get the car right.
    He did receive a full refund, using it against a new XJR ( X300 ), which was faultless.

  • @tumslucks9781
    @tumslucks9781 Рік тому

    My neighbour had a 1992 V12 model. Unlike its rivals it was relaxing to drive.
    A gentlemans express.

  • @MrTomengle
    @MrTomengle 2 роки тому +1

    Got to ride in one of the first XJS's in So Cal back in the mid 70s when I worked at Auto Trends in North Hollywood. We did the proverbial high speed run up the I 5 Grapevine Hill and we were def passing cars like they were standing still.... :)

  • @user-dl5cj6gm3m
    @user-dl5cj6gm3m 2 роки тому +14

    I've owned three. It was cheaper to buy another one when it would, inevitably, fail its MOT. A true labour of love and I loved every minute of my time with them but my bank manager did not. In the end I gave up.

  • @mamarine81
    @mamarine81 2 роки тому

    This is my favorite channel in all of UA-cam. Keep up the great work!

  • @rogerking7258
    @rogerking7258 2 роки тому +7

    This is an odd case of a car that looked more distinguished as it got older. I knew two people in the 1970s with them and they both spent more time being fixed than driven in the first year.

  • @geoffclarke8934
    @geoffclarke8934 2 роки тому +3

    Have always liked the looks of the Xjs even if it's not stunningly beautiful like the E Type. A friend had a late 80s V12 many years ago which was quite an impressive bit of kit. A shame they dropped the manual gearbox option early on only offered the rather lacklustre 3 speed auto.

  • @alexmathis8505
    @alexmathis8505 2 роки тому +4

    Can you do one on the original Range Rover (classic)? Nearly 30 years of production, and in many ways carved out a path for the SUV market worldwide, especially in the US.
    This was interesting though - I've come so close to buying one of these things over the years. I know it would be a nightmare to maintain, but when she's running good I feel like it would absolutely be worth it.
    My first impression when seeing one of these things today is that it's an absolutely beautiful car - probably because they've just become so rare.

    • @lukespector5550
      @lukespector5550 6 місяців тому

      Because although they had aluminium bodies, underneath the non-stainless steel parts were inferior junk from British Leyland parts bins (to save £££). I want you to buy a Range Rover, but like all classic British cars, buy the MOST EXPENSIVE you can (not the one with lowest mileage). The more you use them, the more reliable they become. Oh yeah, it's NOT going to tip over.........but EVERY model from 1970 - 1994 feel like this when you take corners at speed!

  • @iandavis4419
    @iandavis4419 2 роки тому +3

    Another well-researched piece. I didn't realise the car actually made any money, so that's news to me.

  • @bjoernaltmann
    @bjoernaltmann 2 роки тому +6

    I think the XJS looked amazing. One can’t really compare it to the E-Type, they are completely different cars. A word on Porsche: pronounced Porsch-eh. The final e is not silent in German.

    • @lukespector5550
      @lukespector5550 6 місяців тому

      Yes, although us who've bought & enjoyed Porsches don't pronounce it that way. Germans are humourless assholes. I've declined invitations to meet Germans from Stuttgart at Porsche model launches here in Australia.

  • @gorcampos
    @gorcampos 2 роки тому +1

    Brilliant channel, the best on UA-cam! Welldone!

  • @jamieduff1981
    @jamieduff1981 2 роки тому +2

    They're just buttresses, not flying buttresses. They're architectural/structural terms. A flying buttress is hollowed out rather than being a solid triangle - the hypotenuse appearing to be suspended in the air, or "flying". Not sure why so many car people don't get that. Also, the May Fireball combustion chamber wasn't conventional - that's the point! It was a new swirl chamber that only really works with 2-valve heads but did, with huge ignition advance range and taller final drive ratio, give an approximately 40% improvement in fuel economy.

    • @ouethojlkjn
      @ouethojlkjn Рік тому +1

      I had a 1982 HE with 65k on it and driven carefully, even with a 3 speed auto, I could get 25+ mpg in the UK.

  • @DKS225
    @DKS225 2 роки тому +2

    Jeremy Clarkson drove an XJS in The Top Gear India Special. Apparently the one he bought was The Celebration Model.

  • @ziggurat-builder8755
    @ziggurat-builder8755 2 роки тому +2

    Many thanks for a fantastic documentary. I can’t help but think of Gambit and The New Avengers!

    • @ouethojlkjn
      @ouethojlkjn Рік тому

      And the rebooted Saint with Ian Ogilvy!

  • @keithlane
    @keithlane 2 роки тому

    Started at jaguar in 1983 on xjs then xk8 then Xk then f type .....xjs loved it

  • @Lightdasher360
    @Lightdasher360 2 роки тому +3

    Have never been into Jaguar, but thanks so much for the effort you place into your videos. I like the references and comparisons you make, you seem to really do your research and never take too much time digressing with them. Cheers!

  • @jamesgraham6122
    @jamesgraham6122 2 роки тому +1

    One unfortunate aspect for the car was that the public expected a replacement for the e-type with even greater appeal! It could never happen. In any case the cars are fundamentally different, the E-Type being an out and out sports car, a derivative of the racing C and D Types, the XJS is a true GT, the car you might choose to drive at high speed, in comfort to the South of France with a good deal of expensive luggage and the lady from the front cover of Vogue magazine. The car gained a poor reputation in the earlier years due to its poor build quality, following Ford's take-over this was vastly improved avoiding rust issues and with the added benefit of the 4 Liter straight-six engine. While people now buying the early cars, especially the V12s, will need to take great care over the purchase, I believe that the post 1991 cars with the straight-six engines are likely to become desirable collector's items.

  • @philcliffe6909
    @philcliffe6909 2 роки тому +4

    My boss had one of these. Turned into a submarine when he drove through a puddle.

    • @nkt1
      @nkt1 2 роки тому +1

      Aren’t submarines generally watertight?

  • @PedanticmongrelsRailwayChannel
    @PedanticmongrelsRailwayChannel 2 роки тому +2

    Great video, but although seen in the background, no mention of the racing versions. - it would be nice to see a video about them and maybe about the TWR/Jaguar partnership as a whole.

  • @Avantime
    @Avantime 2 роки тому +2

    I would love to see a video about Leyland buses.

  • @LaurentiusTriarius
    @LaurentiusTriarius 2 роки тому +5

    Love theses, tried to own one but I'm 6 ft and the cabin feels so low and cramped, I never understood how a car that big can be that claustrophobic.
    (Same feel with the first XK8's)

    • @Hattonbank
      @Hattonbank 2 роки тому +1

      I am six foot as well and never had a problem getting into XJS or XK Jags, but I am not of a wide berth so maybe that helps.

  • @wobblybobengland
    @wobblybobengland 2 роки тому +2

    XJ-C for me

  • @lukebosch28
    @lukebosch28 2 роки тому +2

    Mr MacVeigh , that video was very well narrated and a joy to watch, I am looking forward to seeing your other videos ( maybe you could do one on the history of the Rover 800 with a special extend part on the 800 vitesse sport ( the vitesse std is not the same ) but I will check your other videos out ) also become a subscriber. Good work and thanks.

  • @edwardalexander9486
    @edwardalexander9486 2 роки тому +2

    Yup not a great looker - but somehow became a great looker. The magic/mystery of the XJ-S!

    • @ouethojlkjn
      @ouethojlkjn Рік тому

      I was fortunate to own one (a ratty second hand V12 1982) and there was something about being in the cramped cabin, with the windscreen almost wrapped around you, the dials lit up at night and the distant growl from that endless bonnet......it was like being seduced by the dark side.

  • @thegearknob7161
    @thegearknob7161 2 роки тому +2

    I love the XJS. It has real flaws that would not be accepted today, but also immense charm like nothing else, and it's still an astonishingly capable car when it's in its element. It might not be perfect, but they did get a lot right with it too. The engine is effortless and smooth. It's not trying to be a sports car, but it can grip pretty firmly, has a lot more feel than you would expect, and the ride quality is the next best thing after a hydropneumatic Citroen. It shames just about anything else I've driven.
    It's the closest thing any of us will get to Concorde these days. Very 1970s long & sleek design with a long and troubled development, uses vast quantities of fuel, was a flop at first only to gain more success later, only useful on certain routes, doing its best to be luxurious despite being cramped; but wouldn't you just want to fly on it anyway? I know I would.
    For driving around towns, it's completely hopeless. Can't think of anything that's worse for a daily driver. The turning circle is a joke and you sit so far back that almost every turning becomes blind. Not to mention fuel economy will be single digits if it spends a long time in traffic. I took it to work once, ~12 miles and used what looked like 1/4 of its 90 litre tank. Don't even bother! But for going long distances on an open road, it's magical and worth every penny to make an occasion of it.
    Maintaining them in this day and age isn't a big deal if you've worked on cars before. Parts availability is almost total, parts are not mega money, access to most areas is easy, and they're well documented; once you understand their unique quirks, they're really not too bad. The worst thing is the mix of metric and imperial bolt heads, and the ignition system, but both aren't dealbreakers.

    • @ouethojlkjn
      @ouethojlkjn Рік тому

      I remember a magazine named "Car" back in 1990 did a comparison of Grand Tourers like the XJ-S, the 850i Beemer, and Aston Martin and a few others - the Jaaaaaaaaag won simply because it was an effortless long legged road monster. If you could afford to run it, there wasn't many better ways to get to and from your Ski Lodge in Switzerland?!

  • @johnclayden1670
    @johnclayden1670 2 роки тому +2

    My brother had three or four of these from the 80's till 91. TBH he had few problems with any but could never understand why he needed 7 keys!

  • @jaguarrroman
    @jaguarrroman 2 роки тому

    Great! A very informative video.

  • @DKS225
    @DKS225 2 роки тому +2

    When you mentioned the F-Type being dropped. It seems that someone at Jaguar decided to revive The F-Type and put it into production with either a hardtop or convertible model and a choice of engines a V6 or a V8 both of which are on sale right now. Though the hardtop version has a bit of a drawback. The lack of rear window vision.

  • @indiekiddrugpatrol3117
    @indiekiddrugpatrol3117 2 роки тому +14

    Imagine if Jaguar had somehow managed to escape British Leyland in 1966.

    • @johnd8892
      @johnd8892 2 роки тому +1

      Like Aston Martin did.

    • @indiekiddrugpatrol3117
      @indiekiddrugpatrol3117 2 роки тому +1

      Yes but they’re far smaller, no volume producer escaped BL except Rootes which suffered an undignified fate under Chrysler

    • @Hattonbank
      @Hattonbank 2 роки тому

      @@johnd8892 AM were never part of BL

    • @johnd8892
      @johnd8892 2 роки тому +1

      @@Hattonbank Yes AM escaped BL but did not escape having huge problems at the time.
      BL just a symptom of wider UK problems.

  • @Lacteagalaxia
    @Lacteagalaxia Рік тому +1

    Ese modelo jag es precioso!!👍😀

  • @2006gtobob
    @2006gtobob 2 роки тому +1

    Woeful build quality was, in my opinion, the main reason this car wasn't a total smash hit. It was somewhat successful, but not what it could've been if it was engineered and built more smartly. In my eyes this car was always attractive.
    IMO the cars fuel efficiency is not that much of an issue for those that bought cars at its price point.

  • @tomasinacovell4293
    @tomasinacovell4293 Рік тому

    Nothing better than the XKE only one worth having.

  • @keeperlit.leterrip7722
    @keeperlit.leterrip7722 2 роки тому +1

    I've had two. First was burgundy 1980 with a Chevy 350 conversion. 2nd was 1984 v12 dark metallic custom green.

  • @ravipeiris4388
    @ravipeiris4388 Рік тому

    My love for V12's came from this car right here. I drive a V12 Maybach 57s.

  • @burtbacarach5034
    @burtbacarach5034 2 роки тому +2

    Great video!I love these in depth behind the scenes tales of car industry,whether British or American.The XJS may not have been perfect but not many cars designed and built in the 70's were (Mustang II PInto Vega etc).Not really a shining era for the auto industry.

  • @mortified776
    @mortified776 2 роки тому +5

    I know the reputation but still a bucket list rust bucket for me!

  • @shankarbalan3813
    @shankarbalan3813 2 роки тому +4

    A really lovely sweeping design. What cars Jaguars were in those days, perfect for enthusiasts…..before they succumbed to the lure of catering to the “Executive Saloon” class of user…now they dont have a single “halo” model…

    • @jakekaywell5972
      @jakekaywell5972 2 роки тому +5

      Yes, they do. The F-Type. Very worthy of the title of "halo" model.

    • @shankarbalan3813
      @shankarbalan3813 2 роки тому +4

      @@jakekaywell5972 yes thank you for correcting me how could I have omitted the F Type….indeed it is a halo car for them now.
      On a different note, saying all this, I’m not really too pleased with all the sports car makers heading towards the SUV route….

    • @Hattonbank
      @Hattonbank 2 роки тому

      They are building more SUV types of vehicles because that is what the public want
      Even Jaguar, renowned for beautiful saloons and sport cars sells four times as many SUV’s as saloon/sports cars. The damn public just have no taste!

  • @keithireland6627
    @keithireland6627 2 роки тому

    Brilliant thankyou.

  • @herseem
    @herseem 2 роки тому +2

    Beautiful, sybaritic, classic luxury. I want one as my fun retirement car.

  • @davidpeters6536
    @davidpeters6536 2 роки тому +1

    The last E-Types were GTs but the XJS was built on an XJ floor pan as the name suggests. I never liked the hard top or the big headlights. I have hankered after a late 4ltr drop top with a twin headlights and I'm a big Jag fan and owned a few, the last I miss every day I drive now. A few missed facts on this though Rudy, a bit rushed I think.

  • @johnbee7729
    @johnbee7729 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for this one. I never did like the XJS - it was far too large to be sporty. I think Jaguar should have had a mid-step car in between the XKE-type and the XJS.

  • @ML-vy8xo
    @ML-vy8xo 2 роки тому +3

    1:41. Not “2 by 2”; it’s “2 plus 2”, 2+2, meaning 2 seater but with 2 compact occasional seats

    • @sarkybugger5009
      @sarkybugger5009 2 роки тому

      I scrolled down to see if anyone else had mentioned it. Glad it's not just me. ;o)

  • @neilelliott6151
    @neilelliott6151 2 роки тому +1

    Don't blame the car for almost killing Jaguar. It was the staff.

  • @charlesmoss8119
    @charlesmoss8119 2 роки тому +2

    Very fascinating and well researched piece - I never liked the early cars but the late facelift cars were really nice, though they taught me more about how to badly package an interior and blind spots then any other car. The V12 was amazing - not for its power but because I swear you could see the fuel gauge drop on any steep hill. The only manual I drove was a late 4.0 and gosh that clutch was heavy! But delivering a customer convertible across great roads on a beautiful day? Yes it was a barge, but what a barge - especially as it wasn’t mine 😁

  • @robinburn4974
    @robinburn4974 2 роки тому +1

    I had a v12, great car apart from the fuel consumption and the rubbish windscreen wipers

  • @yahwea
    @yahwea 2 роки тому +1

    My friend owned one in the early 2000's and it was very unreliable. He liked it when it ran.

    • @wildbillharding
      @wildbillharding 2 роки тому +1

      I've run two - a V-12 and a 4 litre - with little trouble. Everywhere I go people admire them and want to chat.

  • @davidleebls1874
    @davidleebls1874 2 роки тому +1

    12 cylinders
    In America
    Had problems
    Because a lot of $ People...
    Were in urban areas,,,
    12 cylinders
    Do NOT LIKE TRAFFIC

  • @peterdaisleyworrall9458
    @peterdaisleyworrall9458 2 роки тому

    Good video but a few mistakes in the facts presented. Example; The V12 was not dropped from the Xj-S and continued with the car right to the end. Also for stubborn E Type-ists it should be noted that the Xj-S was faster, a lot more comfortable and sold a lot more. True it had to soldier on a bit towards the end but it kept going and kept selling. The last of the E Types were not so easy to shift....I love the E Type, it is a gorgeous car but by the late 60´s jaguar realised it was time for a major step up which the E Type could not provide.

  • @tracingtriumph
    @tracingtriumph 2 роки тому

    Good story and history. Shame the footage of the bronze car was on repeat, on repeat, on repeat.

  • @Alex-cw3rz
    @Alex-cw3rz 2 роки тому +1

    Pretty rare car after top gear has crashed half of them

  • @woodrow_mayes
    @woodrow_mayes 2 роки тому

    the ajv8 would be an interesting story

  • @TheStobb50
    @TheStobb50 2 роки тому +5

    The XJS had two major problems number one replacing the most beautiful looking car ever made, number two British Leyland

    • @jimtaylor294
      @jimtaylor294 2 роки тому +1

      Although in fairness... the E-Type was less good looking by the time the XJ-S launched; as a result of ill thought out styling changes.
      A bit like how the late-'80's F Type concept was better looking than the DB6 or XK that were derived from her.

  • @fuckfannyfiddlefart
    @fuckfannyfiddlefart 2 роки тому

    Class TRAITOR!

  • @danr1920
    @danr1920 Рік тому

    No matter how good you are, you don't want to follow the E Type.

  • @rtfazeberdee3519
    @rtfazeberdee3519 2 роки тому

    Definitely an ugly duckling to swan transformation -certainly was in my eyes

  • @joellamoureux7914
    @joellamoureux7914 2 роки тому +2

    I guess Jag had no insurance to cover the fire?

    • @jimtaylor294
      @jimtaylor294 2 роки тому +1

      Not sure; though the gap in production & thus sales was probably the most painful result of the fire.

  • @Suprahampton
    @Suprahampton 2 роки тому +2

    The final cars are much better in terms of looks & build quality.

    • @smorris12
      @smorris12 2 роки тому

      Sadly after a million years of production, that doesn't say a lot!

    • @Suprahampton
      @Suprahampton 2 роки тому +1

      @@smorris12 Perhaps but if you're wanting to get an XJS, the best ones to get would be the '93-'95

    • @jimtaylor294
      @jimtaylor294 2 роки тому

      For me the early-'80's to 1989 cars are my favourite. The last gen' XJS's don't look right IMO.