History of the Austroasiatic Languages
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- History of the Austroasiatic Languages, Proto-Austroasiatic, Munda, Mon-Khmer, Vietic, Katuic, Khmeric, Pearic, Bahnaric, Monic, Palaungic, Khasi, Khmuic, Mangic, Pakanic, Aslian, Nicobarese
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I always love these videos. It's amazing to see how much a culture can move, diverge, rise, and fall. Thanks for all your hard work.
Thank you very much
@@CostasMelas Subscribed! From a random Greek animator!
@@CostasMelas where do you get your maps for the videos?
PD: I love your work
It's also amazing to read up on how the Vietnamese ethnically cleansed the Chams and the Montagnards, it proves that Communists can be nationalistic and based. I'm happy for Vietnam!
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@@angamaitesangahyando685 what? are you endorsing genocide
Crazy to think how much it declined since its peak. Good work
Thank you
Due to the migration of other groups who when southwards such as the Tai-Kadai.
@@sumaranggg Tai-Kadai also made Peninsular Austronesian Malayic and Moken died out or assimilated into Thai speaking, Malay Buddhist(Menora dance is base on old malay buddhist style, with javanese red mask, style of claw, khmer angkorian crown+javanese crown] and javanese-malay style dress, today it was Southern Thai and Northern Peninsular dance, like Central and Northern Thailand, aspara base on Khmer dance, in Thailand speak thai and in cambodia speak khmer), in Chumphon-Surat Thani-Ranong Kra Ithmus region, Moken, Molken, Malayic Melayu/Malay and Urak Lawoi decline in 1850-1860s, when most malay name place, village, town and city into Thai sound or Thai, example Koh Phi-Phi or Koh Pulo Phi-Phi from Pulau Api-Api in Malay, Koh Sambilan=Pulau Sembilan(mean Nine/9, Nine, Pulau/Pulo=Island, Nine Island), Krabi=Ayer Kelubi, Surat Thani=Gerahi, Chaiya=Cahaya, Ligor=Nakhon SI Thammarat, Phuket=Tanjung Salang, European called it Junkceylon, Thai rename it Thalang but rename back to Phuket), also in There are mixed with Austro-asiatic like Mon, Khmer and Aslian, moken, molken, urak lawoi in Andaman Sea and Strait of Malacca islands, and Malay/Melayu in coastal region, Aslian in deep central and Highland. Surat Thani city pillar shrine base on Srivijayan Malay architecture, with some khmer ornament influences , also Nakhon Si Thammarat city pillar shrine, Khanom City Pillar Shrine Nakhon Si Thammarat and Chedi Laem Sor Pagoda in Srivijaya art Ko Samui, Surat Thani, and Pattani city pillar shrine. base on best preserve Srivijayan temple stupa of Wat Phra Boromathat Chaiya Surat Thani. Unlike Bangkok city pillar shrine base on Thai architecture, and Province near border of Cambodia which have ethnic Khmer majority used Angkor Khmer architecture, like The Buriram city pillar shrine and Surin city pillar shrine. It's sad, Malay speaking in Northernmost Malay Peninsular/Isthmus are diaspear, only in southernmost Thailand like Yala, Pattani, Narathiwat, Santun only can speak Malay. in Krabi, older generation, young generation very few or mixed thai-malay language. and most malay muslim in thai no longer speak malay, but culture, like Silat martial art, Keris, wearing headdress 'songkok' and wearing 'baju melayu' traditional clothing or 'baju kurung' and 'kebaya for female, Malay buddhist almost assimilated into Thai people, just like many Khmer in Northern and central thailand become Thai, no longer speak Khmer, only in Buriram and Surin still Khmer have strong root. The Longtail boat in Krabi was Malay and Urak Lawoi boat, it still used by Urak Lawoi and Malay in Malaysia northern peninsular in Kedah, especially in Island of Langkawi. and Perlis. but Menora dance and Longtail boat[Malay; Perahu ekor panjang], in Riau Sumatra and Maluku island also used similar like boat. Austronesian are seafearing people. that why they spread most of asian island, like taiwan, madagascar, polynesia, philippine, indonesia, timor, part of papua new guinea, polynesia and mirconesia. Today many people in Southern thailand, both muslim and buddha, in Surat Thani, Nakhon Si Thammarat called themself 'Sriwichai'. in Malaysia, we called them 'orang ligor' people of Ligor, a buddhist malay kingdom, after collapse of Sriwijaya, Tambralingga in Ligor[Nakhon si Thammarat] in North Peninsular, Langkasuka in South of Peninsular, Dhamasraya in West Sumatra. some of Srivijayan noble go to Cebu Island, in Visaya today central Philippine, establish Kingdom of Cebu. Siam attack of Malay state, They are vassal malay state like Ligor/Nakhon si Thammarat and Songkhla/Singgora. under Siam order. and Ligor claim peninsular because of Sriwijaya. and Melaka sultnate also descent of Srivijayan both claim they are right. but it history, Malay, and Austro-asiatic langauge in peninsular are decline and extinct. Thainization are very strong in Thailand, unlike in Myammar, Malay place in southernmost of Myammar and Mergui archipelago still retained the malay and moken name.
@@safuwanfauzi5014 so what
@độc lạ B-D Some linguistic propose that 'Austronesian, Austroasiatic, Tai-Kadai/Thai, and Hmong-Mein as 'Austric'. because of Sinification of Yunnan and Southern China, Tai-Kadai number are using Chinese, but some Tai-Kadai language like Tai Buyang number still retain it original, the number very close to Austronesia, it shock me, and under Austric family, Tai-Austronesia is one of Austric branch. Tai and Austronesia/Malayo-Polynesia spilt. Hainan is native island of Tai-Kadai and Austroasiatic, but slowly become Sinonized same ways Taiwan/Formosa today. Thai and Malay/Indonesia word have many similarity like Mati/Matai in Thai=Tai mean die/died, Mata in Thai=Ta, mean Eye, and many2 more(not included sanskrit word which come from Hindu-Buddha influences, word like Raja/Ratcha, Puri/Buri, Bumi/Bhumi etc).
It's amazing how a language can spread and over time splinter into dialects and eventually daughter languages.
Very interesting!
I have some ideas (for next videos)
History of:
▶️Tai-Kadai languages
▶️Japonic (with Ryukyuan) languages
▶️Koreanic
Thank you
And also sinotibetan languages
@Zakk It might be better to split it up into separate videos on Tibetic, Sinitic, etc.
Like how indo European was split into Celtic, Germanic, Romance, etc.
In my state Bihar we have some tribes who are Astro-Asiatic like Santali and Munda people.
Thanks for making this🙏
ᱟᱰᱤ ᱟᱰᱤ ᱥᱟᱹᱲᱦᱟᱣ which means thank you we santal also developed our own language and Draupadi Murmu will be our next president of India.
Amazing bro! I especially like the color choices!
But I do think the Austroasiatics had more influence in Borneo (evidence suggesting Austroasiatic being the substrate in the Austronesian languages there as well as genetics) and less in the eastern part of the Indian subcontinent (Dravidian speaking community was probably the main language there and Munda may have arrived from the coast of Myanmar to the coast of Odisha via the Bay of Bengal instead of crossing the Ganges Delta (but I kind of agree that Austroasiatic may have in the outskirts of the Delta and probably influenced the Proto-East Indo-Aryan language in Bihar), plus genetics).
Of course, the genetics is of less matter in matters of linguistics since peoples with related languages doesn't necessarily mean close genetic relationship.
Really, there is lots of uncertainty about making videos of this, the Nilo-Saharan (genetic unity disputed) and Afro-Asiatic (urheimat disputed) languages, like the Austroasiatic genetic relation to today's Indonesian people is thought to have been caused by "their" expansion to that place at about 6000 BC, way earlier than the 1500 BC you've shown. Plus there are even others like if the Austroasiatics had influences further north and east (~South China~, including Hainan?). Also the urheimat is disputed.
That's why I generally don't want the spread or urheimat of these three language families to be shown (I agree when it is about the subfamilies).
Thank you for the comment. It is true that the homeland of the proto-languages of East Asia is the subject of discussion without consent. I tried to make a synthesis of the main theories, using also the connection of the Austroasians with the Neolithic spread in South East Asia.
I read in DNA charts that the people of Java (Javanese and Sundanese) are slightly more Austroasiatic than Austronesian so Java might have been heavily Austroasiatic in the past before the Austronesians came.
@@JcDizon According to a very recent study I read, there were four migrations to Greater Sunda Islands: the first being those who eventually gave rise to Australian Aborigines and Native New Guineans (+50000 BC). The second were an East Asian population who had also genetically contributed to the next two populations. The third is said to be the "Austroasians" at 6000 BC (just like this person is telling) and fourth/last being the Austronesians from Taiwan.
@@CostasMelas Also, Neolithic farming was brought to Eastern Indian subcontinent by the Iranian farmers (probably Dravidian speakers) too, just before the Southeast Asians did in a matter of a hundred years or so (even you indicated in the previous vid). And yes, many studies have linked spread of farming with migrations of peoples, with which arrivals of farming in Ganges Delta bidirectionally are compatible.
@@snigdha8404 I wonder who those early East Asian populations are
All of Indochina plus the eastern part of the Indian subcontinent used to be Austroasiatic at the same time, with its peak around 1000BC. With Indo-Aryans coming in India and with Thais and Burmese in Indochina, now it is relegated to Vietnamese, Khmer, and various leftovers that are marginalised and in danger of extinction.
Hey! Can you do Sino-Tibetan languages next? Love your content!
Thank you. Sino-Tibetan is a difficult work, but i would like to make it in the future
@@CostasMelas you could split it up like with indo-european
Excellent video as always!
By the way, the many ethnic groups in western Malaysia and Indonesia has a high austroasiatic dna gene, so it is nice to see if we can see the map further south to see how they existed there.
Thank you very much
It's not that many. Only 3 ethnicities in Indonesia; Javanese, Bidayuh, and Sundanese people who have significantly amount of austroasiatic genes.
Yeah, I wanted to see that too. The hypothetical ancient Austroasiatics of Indonesia seems mysterious to me because they left little linguistic evidence that they were ever there but the DNA of people strongly suggests that they did arrive there. Maybe the Aslian group and the Nicobarese are the last remnant group of this southern branch.
@@akusiapa13463 Balinese,malay, batak, acehnese (they descend from cham who result mixed between Austronesian settlers and austroasiatic in Central Vietnam) and other sumatran and borneo have austroasiatic dna
@@mimorisenpai8540 the study indeed shows that balinese are austroasiatic people, but the thing is bali isn't located in west indonesia and i'm talking about west indonesia.
Civilization in indonesia already happened long before the cham ethnic exist. The migration of austroasiatic people in Indonesia didn't start from vietnam, but today's thailand/cambodia.
Even though the austroasiatic settled in Sumatra first, the study shows that batak people are austronesian people. They have predominantly austronesian genes.
Amazing seeing presumably Cham speakers establish themselves on the southeastern Indochinese peninsula around 900 BCE (I'd be curious to know where you found information on this), the Tai-Kadai migration really taking place about 1000 CE and even the mark of French Indochina from the 1880s to 1954 (those barred white lines). Nice work and great attention to detail!
Thank you
Indochina not peninsula. Indochina is gugusan mainland yg rata2 wujud kebudayaannya mirip dgn bangsa cina india
@@AkbarAlhadi-bw2tongomong apa sih. kalo ngomong itu jgn dicampur2.
this is amazing, big thanks for your great work!
...btw, could you please make a video about Yeniseian languages?😣
Thank you
I'm Filipino and we seem to be the only major Southeast Asiatic group that has nothing to do with Austroasiatics. Later migrants in Southeast Asia like Thai, Lao and Burmese seems to have absorbed a lot of Mon and others and the people from Java in Indonesia seems to have slightly more Austroasiatic than Austronesian in their DNA. I am not sure but I think Eastern Indonesians also has very little or nothing to do with Austroasiatics also.
The common substrate in Southeast Asia is considered to be the Negrito substrate. The Austroasians have little expansion in Indonesia and no expansion in Philippines.
iz them continentals
@@akusiapa13463 Yeah, I noticed on the DNA charts that people from Java are way more Austroasiatic than the people from Sumatra but what you just said makes sense. I found it mysterious that the people from Java are heavily Austroasiatic but the ancient Austroasiatics in Indonesia didn't leave any linguistic evidence that they were ever there, just their DNA. I guess the Bidayuh is a subgroup of Dayak from Borneo?
Actually, there are only 3 ethnicities in Indonesia; Javanese, Sundanese, and Bidayuh people who still have significantly amount of austroasiatic genes. And the rest in West Indonesia are austronesian people.
And why do they have predominantly austroasiatic genes? So, the austroasiatic people landed in Indonesia before the austronesian people. They were speaking austroasiatic languages too. But then assimilated with austronesian cultures, and resulting in none of austroasiatic people in Indonesia speak austroasiatic languages anymore.
Austroasiatic people were rice farmers not seafarers unlike the austronesian. The land in Java is very fertile, that's why majority of austroasiatic people migrated to Java from Sumatra. As you can see, majority of today's Sumatran people are austronesian people and Java people are austroasiatic people
@@JcDizon and i think it could be because the austronesian and the austroasiatic people in Java were engaged in battle. The austronesian had advanced technology than the austroasiatic had, and they apparently lost the battle. That's why it could be said "the austronesian colonized the austroasiatic". And it's a common thing for the loser assimilated with the winner's culture.
Yes, bidayuh is a subgroup of dayak people
As a kradai person
Im very interested about it
I love your content, Great job !
Thank you very much
As a Vietnamese my heart sank when the map started turning white 😢
Yes its very sad unfortunately..!!😢
Seems like that canton areas have never spoke austroasiatic language.
@@刘卫皇-v2j 廣東 spoke kra-tai in ancient times, which itself was one with austronesian as austro-tai, which itself probably it's closest kin were austroasiatic and ancient japonic
2:45 "Gee that sure is one fine looking language family. I hope nothing happens to it."
6:43 "Look how they massacred my boy"
Sino-Tibetan and Kradai ended their own career
Masterpiece as always, you deserve so much more
Thank you very much
Great video, I agree with your assessments for the Austro-Asiatic presence in India. I am Telugu and studying the genetic variation amongst my people, you can tell from PCA charts that some Dravidian speaking tribes were once Austroasiatic speakers such as the Khonda Dora, Gonds, Koya's. These ethnic groups are mostly AASI and South East ancestry with some IVC Iran_N. While Telugu farmer castes are mostly IVC Iran_N and AASI. An expanding Dravidian speaking force pushing southwards and eastwards after the IVC collapse would explain this.
Thank you very much for the additional and interesting information.
I’m assuming this is also true for many Indo-Aryan speaking tribes that live in Odisha and Jharkhand, and West Bengal.
@@unknownmaster5078 Yup, good example would be the Bhil tribe who now speak Indo-Aryan languages but probably spoke a Dravidian language at one point. "Bhil" most likely derives from the proto-drav word "bil" meaning arrow. They still practice some level of the Dravidian kinship system aka cousin marriage
@@goingmerry123 The Bhils that live in Rajasthan, Gujarat and Maharashtra? If so, that means that Gujaratis, Rajasthanis and Marathis are very mixed.
SANTALI
I love your work!
keep creating :)
Thank you
I am a Meghalaya from NE India and I am proud to say that we still do speak the language but in Khasi /pnar/Garo dialect
it will disappear within 70 years if that language is not taught in schools, and the quality of education is high. We lost our mother tongue from the 1960s onward because we lived near an industrial city.
Garo is not an Austro-asiatic Lang though.
Garo is Tibeto-Burman
@@fishyfish6510Yep because Garo and other NE tribals like Mizo, naga are Tibeto-burman descendants and that’s also why their looks are different from Khasi whose descended from Mon-Khmer
probably the world's oldest language family is austroasiatic, I am a Santal tribal and my mother tongue is Santali. Today, many languages of the austroasiatic language family are vulnerable. 😔😔😔
Can you make one separate video for Santali (ᱥᱟᱱᱛᱟᱲᱤ) language.
ᱥᱟᱱᱛᱟᱲᱤ ᱯᱟᱹᱨᱥᱤ ᱞᱟᱹᱜᱤᱫ ᱢᱤᱫ ᱵᱷᱮᱜᱟᱨ ᱵᱷᱤᱰᱤᱳ ᱵᱮᱱᱟᱣ ᱢᱮ 🙏
They're not
@@remington2216 No, they are
There are so many Austroasiatic languages, just look up a language map of the Central Highlands in Vietnam (Some are Austronesian but most are Austroasiatic). This is why this dude only did subdivisions of Austroasiatic instead of the individual languages
Gradual language death will probably come for these languages one day
@@socialistrepublicofvietnam1500 The oldest language is most likely afroasiatic or its branches like the semitics, they are closer to the route out of africa
@@remington2216 wait how is that related
also it is probably some khoisan language
@@remington2216 thats not true but the oldest part is true.
Very interesting, greetings from Colombia
Thank you
The language family has never expanded on a large scale to the Lingnan region (Guangxi, Guangdong, and Hainan). In 2007, only Bolyu language belonged to the language family in Guangxi, with a mother tongue population of less than 2000. In addition to Chinese, Hainan Island is mainly composed of Kra-Dai languages, with a small number of people speaking Tsat language, a language of the Austronesian language family
Pure Kradai languages are getting extinct in China. The one you mean is Tai language group but they were mixed with old Chinese elements a lot. The Bolyu language speakers are rare can just mean they got absorbed stronger
Ideas for later videos.
The expansions of the 3 - 5 language families formerly known as Khoi-San.
The expand of Chadic.
There are four ethnic languages in China that belong to this language family, namely, the Vietnamese, the Wa people, the Palaung people, and the Blang people,and the Khmu people also belong to this language family
Amazing Mon-Khmer Language
I am proud of myself being an Austroasiatic family
Can you tell me what is austro Asiatic mean
As an Austronesian Family , I know what you thingking We proud to have a big Family everywhere .!! 👍
From Astronesian LIMA GANG .!! 👍
CN is the Haplogroup of Altaic people.
the N came from East Asia and currently share genetics with the Siberian North Asians
All East Asians with Y-Haplogroup O have partial origins shared with Southeast Asian farmers.
Another point made by academic is that Y-Haplogroup C is original Haplogroup of Northeast Asia which get replaced by Y-Haplogroup O from Southern China.
Basically Korean, Manchu and Japanese Y-Haplogroup O2b (or O1b2) is a sister clade of Austra-Asiatic Y-Haplogroup O1b1. They are originally very closely related.
Southern Han Chinese derive partial ancestry from ancestral Proto-Austronesians who had Y-Haplogroup O1a, which is the oldest branch of O1 Haplogroup.
Proto-Turks were genetically and linguistically closer to Mongols and Tungusic people. Their Homeland was Manchuria hg NOC. These are Northeast Asian People.
East Asian Ydna=NCO+DQ
1，N-M231
Turkic languages：Yakut，Khakas
Finno-Ugric：Nenets people，Nganasan people，Finns
2，C-M217 Mongolian Kazakhs Manchu
Native American C2b1a1a
Genghis Khan s Golden Family C2b C2c
Aisin Gioro C2b1a3a* (C-M401*, (xF5483))
Liao civilization C2e
3，O-M175 Chinese Korean Japanese
O1=O1a+O1b1+O1b2 ，The Liangzhu/Hemudu culture
O1a→Austronesian
FujianO1a→Taiwan→Philippines→Oceania→
Austronesian，Taiwanese aborigines89.6%O1a
O1a，O1b1→Tai-Kadai/Zhuang/Baiyue people→Laos,Thailand
O1b1→The natives of Mainland Southeast Asia
O1b2→Korean
O2→Sino-Tibetan=Han chinese+Tibetan
D-Japanese，Tibetan，Ainu people
Q-Turkmen（Karakalpakiya 73%
）, Native American，Inuit，Yeniseian people
Ydna N+C
1，Northern Tungusic：Evenks，Evens，Oroqen
2，Mongolic languages：Buryats，mongolian，Kalmyks
3，Paleo-Siberian：Chukchi people
4，Turkic：Tuvans，Kazakh，Dolgans，Yukaghir people
Ydna C+O
1，Southern Tungusic：Manchu，Xibe
2，Southern Mongolic
3，Northern Chinese, Korean
Ydna O+D
Japanese，Tibetan
East Asian mtDNA=ABCD
A（Its highest frequencies are among Native Americans, its largest overall population is in East Asia, and its greatest variety (which suggests its origin point) is in East Asia. Thus, it might have originated in and spread from the Far East）
B（The greatest variety of haplogroup B is in China. It is therefore likely that it underwent its earliest diversification in mainland East or South East Asia）
C (predominantly indigenous Siberian, though some branches are present in the Americas, East Asia, and eastern and northern Europe).
D (predominantly northern East Asian, such as Japanese, Okinawan, Korean, Manchu, Mongol, Han Chinese, Tibetan, etc., but also having several branches among indigenous peoples of the Americas)
Mongoloid face
East Asian face
1，Chinese Korean Janpanese face
Ydna O+mtDNA B=Southern Chinese
Ydna O+mtDNA CD =North Chinese
Ydna O1b2+mtDNA CD =Korean，Janpanese/Yayoi
2，Janpanese/Jomon people，Tibeto-Burman languages face
Ydna D1a1+mtDNA G=Tibetan
Ydna D1a2+mtDNA CD=Janpanese/Jomon people
Ydna D1a2+mtDNA MND=Ainu people
3，Vietnamese people, Thai people face
Ydna O1b1 O1a+mtDNA BF
North Mongol face
Ydna C+mtDNA CD=Mongolian，Tungusic peoples
Ydna N+mtDNA CD=Yakut，Khakas，Nenets people，Nganasan people
Ydna NC+mtDNA CD=Buryats，Evenks，Evens，Oroqen，Chukchi people，Tuvans，Dolgans，Yukaghir people，Kazakh
Native American face
Ydna Q+mtDNA ACD=Native American，Eskimo & Inuit
Ydna Q+mtDNA HU=Turkmen
Mongolia, Manchu people，Oroqen people，Evenks，Buryats，Nganasan people，Chinese，Tibetan，Japanese and Korean→80%-100%noc+dq/East Asian/Mongoloid
mixed race
The modern Turkic people are a mixture of Eurasian People. These includes Indo-Iranian and Indo-European tribes of Central Asia who becomes Turkic for 2000 years ago. This tribes are members of Haplogroup R1a in Central Asia.
Kazakhstan
70.63%nocqd+mtDNA CD→
Mongoloid face
nocqd+mtDNA HU→Eurasian face(mixed ancestry)
Kyrgyzstan→50.1%nocq
Uyghurs→30%-35%nocd
Uzbekistan→27.1nocq
Yeniseian people/Kets→93.7%q
Yakuts→94%n
Europid→jrgei
Iranian peoples→70%jrge
Pashtun→90%jrgel
Anatolian Turks→80%jrgel
Martine Robbeets suggests that the Turkic peoples were descended from a Transeurasian agricultural community based in northeast China, which is to be associated with the Xinglongwa culture and the succeeding Hongshan culture（hg NCO）. The East Asian agricultural origin of the Turkic peoples has been corroborated in multiple recent studies.
All Neo-Siberians have origins in Northeast Asia including Korea. They split from common ancestors from Northeast Asians before migrating to absorb Paleo-Siberians/R1aQ.
Korea C12.9 D2.5 N3.8 O1a 3.1 O1b 33.4 O2 42.1 Q1.8
Manchuria C14.3 D0 N5.7 O1a 2.9 O1b 8.6 O2 65.7 Q0
Western Japan C7.2 D26.8 O1a 4.1 O1b 37.1 O2 23.9
Tibet C2.6 D51.6 N4.5 O2 33.9 Q3.2
Han chinese
O2
O1a 13,0%
C- M217 12,0%
N-M231 10,3%
O1b 7,2%
Q-M242 4,2%
The original turkic people N are very similar to O (chinese，korean，japanese), they came from the same gene haplogroup NO but absolutely different from J（J1+J2/Turkey） Type of east Mediterranean people.
This is meaningless
I was confused on why you didn't divide by language but then I realized
You literally can't do that for Sino-Tibetan, Kra-Dai, and Austroasiatic without stuffing the key full of random languages covering 10 pixels each
I didnt know munda used to be that widespread in many areas in eastern india during the vedic and mauryan age
Draw Hmong-mien languages plz!!!
Can you post a video about the history of Japanese languages?
Probably in the future
I'm a khasi who belongs to austroasiatic group. Our origins are not fully explained yet but there are theories. I wonder, what connections do we have with other tribes? Or language families?
incredible video man, you are the best youtube channel on language families mapped
Thank you very much
@@CostasMelas no problem bro, maybe you would like my content
very ominous music and kinda sad the other groups slowly fade
It is impressive that despite the migrations of the Tibeto-Burmese and Kra-dai peoples, none of the Austroasiatic languages have come into existence.
Aslian Language.. the southern geng from austro asiatic language..
Austroasiactic is one of the most documented language families out there.
This family decreased too much because of Indo-European, Sino-Tibetan, Tai-Kadai and Austronesian expansion, Hmong people belongs to this language family or to the Tai-Kadai one?
It is a separate language group (Hmong-Mien languages)
@@CostasMelas ok, thanks, for me those minority peoples from Southeast Asia are very hard to know compared to minorities from other regions of the world or at least from other regions of Eurasia
can anyone explain how come Thai has assimilated large chunks of the previously Austro-Asiatic speaking area? (but not Khmer?) Also, the `weird` noodle-like shape of Vietnamese hugging the coast, anyway really fascinating part of the world I'm not familiar with much so keen to learn
We Viets are culturally lowlanders at hearts, we don't like mountainous hinterlands, but we don't like the high seas either. Hence we expanded along the coast, where there are lowlands to cultivate and sea for maritime navigation. Hence the elongated shape.
The Khmer were be able to maintain their language and identity is because part they fought back the Siam (Thailand) from absorbing them and later on they invited the French in so Siam had to give up the idea of absorbing Khmer completely. Then Vietnam kicked the French out of Indochina and here we are today.
Morale: To prevent being eaten up entirely you need to fight back, hold yourself long enough, have fantastic neighbor whom you dragged down to have problem like you or a powerful outsider at the time. Don't rely on "Karma will solve your problem"
It's funny that in the past, Vietnam also faced the same problem with a large Tai population migrated out of Southwest China then started claiming land wherever they went to but the difference is we fought them back hard and won. Then they lived with us peacefully and even fought along side with us when we fought against China's invasion. They even sheltered Vietnamese troops in the Indochina wars
@@rosemichaelis9519 (central)Thai assimilated Mon area not khmer and then invaded Khmer. Thai also assimilated Malay in the south. DNA research show that central Thai mix Mon DNA and southern Thai have Malay DNA.
@@somsaksompong689 : The current Khmer land was actually assimilated into the Khmer Empire. Thai and Laos assimilated most of of the original land of Khmer which was parts of it is in Laos.
@@somsaksompong689 the mon DNA most likely comes back after having to repopulate after the burmese war.
so no and yes. Siam is more khmer after constantly taking khmer back and forth, and borderless migrations between siam and angkor in recent centuries.
Laos is definitely more mixed with khmer.
i would think it's more nuanced than this. if anything central thai would be biethnic mon-khmer assimilate into thai.
There are some thai who are more khmer looking than mon, or mon+tai kadai.
Lanna tai thai are mon+tai kadai,
laos / isaan are lao tribes + khmer.
a study said the mon component in thai matches burmese mon, not thai mon. i will edit this if im incorrect.
They were kicked out to the coasts and smaller pockets when Thais and Burmese just arrived from migrating southward.
Also the largest two, Khmer and Vietnamese, can't even understand each other thanks for being influenced by different cultural realm.
That's right. Khmeric peoples were more close to Hindu civilization whereas Vietic more close to Sinic civilization
and then, the french came and said, all them peeps are indochina
@@CostasMelas as it seems to make Khmer and Vietic look like coming from different language family each, but that's not the case. Vietnamese language sounds like almost completely absorbed into Sinitic realm
người Khmer không có chung nguồn gốc với người việt và người mường đâu
@@DevSarman ngoại hình chúng tôi giống Khmer , bọn Khmer họ đen và tóc còn xoăn tôi chỉ có gen của người việt và chăm thôi
According to the map above indonesian are descendent from Malaysian.
Austroasiatic people in Malaysia is influenced by Malay language. Not many of them speak their own language fluently because they are not well documented and state governments in malaysia do not seem to care.
I'm Vietnamese ❤
Amazingly, Vietnam has the same culture with China, the same genetic with Thailand and the same language family with Cambodia!
Thai and Viet can even sound similar, due to influence from chinese
genetic and linguistic influence from tai-kadai people (even tones and how thai and viet talk)
and also austroasiatic influence
Viet - austroasiatic with tai kadai influence (vowels, tone, etc). Genetic - tai kadai austroasiatic chinese, some austronesian.
thai - 35% austroasiatic linguistically, 50% tai kadai (central thai language),
genetically tai+austroasiatic (MAJORITY)+chinese+austronesian.
In the end, unlike anyone else, 😆 ,Strange stories like this are not uncommon,
from south of the Yangtze River down to southeast asia all have the same ancient origin.
If we ignore national borders and language differences we can see that the entire Zhuang group from Guangxi and surrounding areas such as Yunnan, Guangdong, Guizhou, northern Vietnam-Laos have the same ancient AA origin.
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AA forms two northern and southern branches.
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Northern AA is a collection of many groups living from Guangxi to northern Vietnam-Laos or south china, while the southern groups from central Vietnam-Laos down to Cambodia, Many northern groups were assimilated by the AN group and they changed their language to separate from the AA block but their dna is related to the Vietnamese. while many more isolated groups in northern Vietnam-Laos formed the northern AA groups today.
Sundanese Javanese and Balinese has significant amount of Austro-Asiatic DNA wonder how they get that ?
naturally occurring or genetically modified, 😌
Do you plan to do video about all Afroasiatic languages same as about Indo-European languages?
I would like to do it, but the Chadic and Omotic groups remain to be made
@@CostasMelas I hope you place the urheimat in East Africa and/or, at least, the African Red Sea Coast.
Interesting area of the world! Thank you Costas! Greeting from Puerto Rico!
I thought that lao language was austroasiatic!
Thank you
Lao comes from the Tai-Kradai family same as thai. Since they have interacted with AA languages there are some words that are found to have AA origin.
Do we think about the people who occupied these other lands before these languages came in? That was so long ago. I wonder what their story is?
Pls mongolic languages
Why Indonesia not inckude it.....but Malaysian Peninsula include it....Are you sure if Mslaysian Malays include in Austroasiatic not Austronesia
Yes.....Malaysia People came from Indonesia archipelago...Malay Java Minang Batak Bugis Dayak etc is Austronesia...Original Malay Peninsula people is Semang etc is Austro asaitic....They seem like Thailand or
Thank you
Proud to be an Austroasiatic speaker
@Costas Melas where do you get your maps for the videos?
PD: I love your work
Thank you very much. I create them from free shapefiles edited with a gis program.
I would like an Austronesian version covering form Madagascar to Rapanui Island!
I have done it
Awesome Bro 😀👌🏻
Thank you
this is amazing, we can clearly see how austroasiatic languages peaked during early CE but declined in western group due to thai kradai migration. also on my part (as a vietnamese) 16th century southward march leading to spread of vietic really coincides with our nation's history. overall, banger linguistic history video🔥🔥
from south of the Yangtze River down to southeast asia all have the same ancient origin.
If we ignore national borders and language differences we can see that the entire Zhuang group from Guangxi and surrounding areas such as Yunnan, Guangdong, Guizhou, northern Vietnam-Laos have the same ancient AA origin.
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AA forms two northern and southern branches.
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Northern AA is a collection of many groups living from Guangxi to northern Vietnam-Laos or south china, while the southern groups from central Vietnam-Laos down to Cambodia, Many northern groups were assimilated by the AN group and they changed their language to separate from the AA block but their dna is related to the Vietnamese. while many more isolated groups in northern Vietnam-Laos formed the northern AA groups today.
Map này là sự phân bố xa xưa chứ ko nói mật độ về bản chất do các nhóm kia phát triển và di cư đông chứ nhóm AA ko phải bị giảm đi
@@huyngovan-uq3ll bruh it's true that in modern 2000+AD thai kradai is the dominant language family in southern china ie guangxi (zhuang language), guangdong, yunnan, guizhou and also in thailand, isan+lao, northern myanmar. mon language speakers in 2007 (wikipedia) is around 700k-1mil, is an endangered language in the atlas of world's languages in danger.
the northern austroasiatic u speak of are the vietic, katuic, khmuic etc branch, southern is khmer, pearic, vietic, bahnaric etc. they survive the waves of tai-kradai migration. the 1400AD spread of vietic to the central coastal region also matches the nam tiến, wars with champa kingdoms, assimilation of central highland's austronesian languages. no doubt the northern AA langs will share vietnamese DNA bc we all share common genetic and ethno-linguistic ancestors :)))
if u also compare the TK video we clearly see that migration from 900AD onward for the southwestern thai group replaced the previously popular native mon language there. the entire thai (ayutthaya, sukothai), laos (luang prabang, vientianne, lan xang), shan (states) civilizations almost replaced mon, khasi-palaungic.
but islian manages to survive in the strait of malacca. while the far off munda (AA) languages shrunk vastly in population in the indian subcontinent due to coming in close contact with hindi, odia and bengali.
@@laguerilla_proletairethis happens when it comes to language, the groups that developed strongly. Except for the Khmer empire, the AA groups are more backward, while the Viet and Tai-kdai groups developed in association with the wet rice civilization. Even the dna of the Tai-kdai group is closer to the Viet than the other isolated AA groups. .
this shows that the AA groups in Southeast Asia are the most ancient.
of course the Tai-kdai, Viet and AA groups today all share the same ancient root. however the change in dna over time creates differences between the isolated groups, while the Viet and Tai-kdai groups tend to be closer to each other in the Yangtze civilization.
Most of them got assimilated 😐
By Sino-Tibetan, Kra-Dai, Indo-Iranian and Austronesian peoples
mostly by chinese i guess
@@pozk-tf6ey nah, china way up north. these guys spread out and left where china is now many many millennia ago. they went and got assimilated in thailand, myanmar, laos, india, malaysia, indonesia
Austroasiatic - Used to be queen of Mainland SEA
Austronesian - Queen of the Maritime SEA
Aunque algunos idiomas austronesios (los más orientales) como el Rapa Nui o el tahitiano aparte de la expansión de los imperios europeos, destaca la invasión por diversos estados asentados en Sudamérica (tallanes, Incas, Perú y Chile)
Thailand was founded in 1238
The monic is almost die out.
hi costas melas, can u do one day history of sino tibetan languages? thx i love your video 🇦🇱❤️🇬🇷
or native american languages
Thank you. II will try to do them in the future
Hi Costas, out of curiosity, did you consider the migration route proposal by Paul Sidwell (ie arguably the pre-eminent scholar in Austroasiatic paleolinguistics today) that proposed Austroasiatic dispersal (as opposed to origin) from the Red River Valley of Northern Indochina/Northern Vietnam? His video on the topic can be found here: ua-cam.com/video/QREB1UttWTI/v-deo.html He examines a number of proposals but finds there's scant evidence to support an "Out of China" hypothesis. I imagine that both Austroasiatic and Tibeto-Burman language families must be the most difficult to construct migration, evolution and dispersal timeline maps for out of any of the languages on the entire Eurasian continent.
Hi Joseph. Yes, you're right, I based on this theory. It is the only that connects all the branches that seems to follow upper Mekong, upper Irrawaddy and Brahmaputra valleys. It is truth, these are the most difficult and every theory for them include doubts.
@@CostasMelas Your grammar is bit off since you are Greek, so I cannot understand what you mean by "this theory" and "it is truth". I have now researched Paul's theory and it seems more probable than what you presented; it may have doubts/flaws but less than the one you showed. I hope you replace this video with another one showing Paul's theory and not concentrate on making a part 2 video for the Etruscan language.Your grammar is bit off since you are Greek, so I cannot understand what you mean by "this theory" and "it is truth". I have now researched Paul's theory and it seems more probable than what you presented; it may have doubts but less than the one you showed. I hope you replace this video with another one showing Paul's theory and not concentrate on making a part 2 video for the Etruscan language.
{Greek translation}: Η γραμματική σου είναι λίγο σπασμένη αφού είσαι Έλληνας, οπότε δεν μπορώ να καταλάβω τι εννοείς με το "αυτή τη θεωρία" και "είναι αλήθεια". Έχω ερευνήσει τώρα τη θεωρία του Paul και φαίνεται πιο πιθανό από αυτό που παρουσίασες. μπορεί να έχει αμφιβολίες/ελαττώματα αλλά λιγότερα από αυτό που έδειξες. Ελπίζω να αντικαταστήσετε αυτό το βίντεο με ένα άλλο που δείχνει τη θεωρία του Παύλου και να μην επικεντρωθείτε στη δημιουργία ενός βίντεο μέρους 2 για την ετρουσκική γλώσσα.
The Vietnamese in the Yangtze River region of central China and the Minyue (Hokkien) in present-day Fujian were originally Austroasiartic peoples who spoke the same Austroasiartic language and belonged to the Mongoloid race, while the Khmers were Austroasiartic in southwestern China not living together with the Vietnamese and Minyue people in the Yangtze River region of central China, the Vietnamese and Minyue have a higher Mongoloid composition and are different from the Khmer, the Khmer belong to the Negrito Australoid group of the ancient Australoid group and less Mongoloid than the Vietnamese and Minyue, until the arrival of the Austronesians changed the anthropology of the Vietnamese and Minyue as well as their linguistic composition, the mixed Austronesian accounted for a higher proportion than the Austroasiartic in the Minyue Fujian, Austronesian languages predominate in the Minyue Austroasiartic languages, and then the Austronesians in Fujian migrated to the island of Taiwan and gradually migrated to Southeast Asia and the Pacific, after which some people The Austronesians in Fujian and the Vietnamese of the Austroasiartic group migrated to the Red River Delta in northern Vietnam, where the Austronesians united blood with the Austroasiartic Vietnamese and united to speak the Austroasiartic language. This is the reason that Vietnamese has become a combination of Austroasiartic and Austronesian components then the Austronesians from the mainland in the Red River Delta region migrated to the island of Borneo in Indonesia they preserved their Austronesian language and brought the culture of the ancient Vietnamese here and Austronesians like Dayak Iban were the Austronesian people are closest brothers and sisters to Kinh (Vietnamese) people today
Austronesian language in Vietnamese.
Vietnam:Anh (He) Indonesia:Anda
Vietnam:Bạn,Bọn (Friend) Indonesia:teMan
Vietnam:Không(No) Indonesia:buKan
Vietnam:Ta-Chúng ta. Indonesia:kiTa
Vietnam:Ăn/Món Ăn (Eat/Food)
indonesia:MakAn/MakaAn
Vietnam:Dao(Knife) Indonesia:piSau
no, I don't see it as similar at all, ours is a monosyllabic language with tones, do you know how to distinguish the same and the differences?
I can give you an example that is 30,000 times the number of words you just gave in Vietnamese, similar to Chinese, then I will also say Vietnamese is Chinese, is it reasonable? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Sorry, you don't need to find the connection, Vietnamese cannot be Indonesian language, and vice versa🤣
The words you give have no value, cannot lead to any results, Ours are simply a monosyllabic language, not a polysyllabic language,
Anyway, thank you for your interest in Vietnam, Vietnam always considers Southeast Asia home, But the same is be the same and the different is be different, it must be clear 😊😊😊
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@@thebungalawang6841 we don't have, we don't even understand what are you talking about?😗
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Existe algún vínculo entre las lenguas yungas y las lenguas Austroasiatic?, ya que ambos son tonales y hay algunos idiomas cuyo léxico en su mayoría son sílabas, además que en la costa norte de Perú hubo una leyenda del siglo 11 sobre un tal naylamp ( un hombre que llegó del mar y fundó un reino en la zona)
Do we know who lived in Indochina before Austroasiatic tribes came there?
In the Asian languages video I have put the Negrito substrate. They are peoples that connected with the first settlement of South Asia and likely have a relation with Papua and Aboriginal. Their language survive only in Andaman islands
was there some aid from the data from the dragon historian's austroasiatic mapping videos?
I followed different hypothesis in the first stages, but I consulted them such as the video of other mappers for East Asia. Some youtubers have done such a job that would the universities make them jealous about these projects
@@CostasMelas yes, the internet enthusiasts making all them mapping videos and other such provide the most interesting advancements to the progress of these sorts of stuff. sadly, some places like wikipedia would have police editors forbidding others about "original research" blablabla even tho data was valid
archaeologists have discovered more than 70,000 years of prehistory in remote cave in Cambodia's far western Battambang ( La Ang Spean) so your video may inaccurate( if want an evidence you can search nation museum of Cambodia it has human remain date back at 60,000 to 5000 BC) and scientist has prove that those people are now the Khmer people now that now day Cambodian. here some videos source ua-cam.com/video/CI5PbBJL9jc/v-deo.html
Those places were probably previous negrito's substrates who later got absorbed to the Khmer population. Absorbing is quite a scary and epic process as you can claim other's things as yours.
@độc lạ B-D lol. The current Cambodian territory was once believed to be Austronesian territory. The Khmer, before the Tai came in, originally came from Laos. They started as a tributary state to the Austronesian Funan kingdom in southern Laos, then overthrew it and merged that Funan's land to make their empire. The funny thing is most of it is where they held their ground against the Tai people but whatever, Khmer will pretend Funan wasn't different from their ancestor's place. So Austronesian could be more negrito than you think. Remember that in Africa, in some places, poor people have a traditions to catch and eat seafood just like the tradition of the Austronesian so of course their boat and sea navigation skill is not bad at all. Seafood allergy is actually one of the most popular food allergies in Vietnam especially shrimp lol.
@@rosemichaelis9519 no. austronesians came later lmfao. what evidence do you have seeming that javanse, balinese, sundanese and peninsular malay are 50% austroasiatic?
I have linguistic and genetic evidences. there was NO large documented austroasiatic migration after the austronesians lmao
they were all the way to java island already before austronesians came.
funan was khmer and multi ethnic, there was little discrepancy with later khmeric cultural and architectural achievements. could it have been mixed with cham? yes. funan stretched to the malay peninsula, which that area is still majority austroasiatic today rather than austronesian LMFAO
negritos and austroasiatics mixed. not the other way around. do you wonder why khmer have jet black hair? austronesians are more light reddish orangeish skintones, like polynesians.
Of course, philippines has its share of negrito admixture.
Soon you will cover the entire globe. :)
I would like to achieve this :)
@@CostasMelas I wish you that.
Slightly simplified whole world map; starting at, let's say 5000 BC. Only language families (with Greek of course as a separate category :))
It can be done, you did excellent job with Indo - European languages.
You know i'm your fan. Good luck.
Thank you very much
Great work Costas Melas.
Thank you
Very awesome video! In terms of the classification of Baiyue languages, I think that your version makes more sense than The Dragon Historian. He classifies most of Baiyue tribes as Austroasiatic speakers. However, according to some lexical and documental evidence, the majority of Baiyue could speak a kind of KraDai language, and KraDai peoples are much more than Austroasiatic peoples in southern China. More importantly, KraDai peoples are geographically closer to Han Chinese than Austroasiatics. Of course, we still cannot deny that TDH's work of Austroasiatic languages is generally excellent. :)
BTW, it is better to make a video of the history of KraDai languages if you are interested in it. Thank you :)
Thank you very much. To make this video I also studied Kra Dai, Hmong Mien, Tibetan Burmese and Dravidian. Other youtubers offered me great help. Dragon has made great work
@@CostasMelas Many thanks in advance!😊👍
@@CostasMelas h'mông và người dao đỏ và người việt nam và người mường có chung nguồn gốc từ bách việt
Can someone explain to me the differences between austroasiactic and austronesian?
Austronesian is a diverse language group that has spread from Taiwan and the Philippines to almost the entire Pacific and Indian Oceans. See the earlier video about this language group
They should have been named Vietnamic and Oceanic. This way it is just confusing.
@@CostasMelas Got it!
Austroasiatics are them continentals
Austronesians are them islanders
Austro is Latin for Southern
asiatic is Asian, for the continent
nesos is for islands
@@septagram9491 why Vietnamic. should be Mon-Khmer is batter.
Your date is wrong, if we research about munda people they run from southern china since more than 5000 BC but you put here all of us start at southern china during 2000 BC plust so look so wrong.
@độc lạ B-D vietnam is ancient lawa people who mix with other race, if you say khmer is negrito so please look to original lawa people who live at northern thai they are not mix with other race they are same khmer people only austroasitic who live at india who have very dark skin because they mix with southern india people.
@độc lạ B-D Dayak people run from northern vietnam to boneo island because of seperated of Lac viet and Auviet, Their blood is really mix of austronesian and austroasitic, but original of both austroasitic and austronesian are not light skin.
@độc lạ B-D Austronesian and austroasitic are same appearance they are dark skin but not so dark as negrito people.
cool
This is the only back migration of a few austroasiatic tribes belonging to Mon khmer sub family of Àustroasiatic Super language family.Recent anthropological and genetical studies say that mtDNA of south east asian austroasiatic donot match with Indian austroasiatic tribes while the auatroasiatic mtdna match with other indian populations but south east asian bear indian mtdna hàplogroups (maternal)also.This infer that austroasiatic family members spillited long before in indian subcontinent and spread to south east asia and southern china!Next point :The austoasiatic tribes of Indian subcontinent Y DNA (Paternal)is -65000 years which is much older than the south east asian austròasiatic tribes which TMRC according to ydna is 29000 to 35000 years.Third point is that none of austroasiatic tribes of the Indian subcontinent possess the southeast asian mtdna .So its impossible that austroasiatic initially migrated from south east asia and south china but initiall movement and split was from Indian subcontinent.Sources:frm the papers of P P Majumdar,B Thangaraj,M Reddy(Anthropologists and geneticists) 0:49 0:51 0:52
Great video!
Thank you
Austronesian and austroasiatic a formidable seafaring nation before the Vikings, Phoenicians, Minoans, Pelasgians, and man sea 🌊🛶⛵
the austroasiatics were the land people while the austronesians were the sea people. there was even a fable in vietnam where it depicts stuff about the mountain and seas and how they would battle each other figuratively. the mountain they were talking about mustve represented the austroasiatic peoples and the sea being the austronesian peoples
the atlantic megalith culture of ancient europe 4000 years ago was a great seafaring culture as well, spreading from Portugal and Morocco in the south, to the Shetland islands in the north
Austroasiatic are not sailor,
@@haysnairefohdir4182 yes they are sailors too but not as superior as austronesian voyagers I know from ancient Chinese literature records during the warring period or autumn period to the han dynasty that the barbarians from the south were a very formidable nation in terms of shipping in the area around the china sea South and several islands in Southeast Asia at that time and also they have a culture of craftsmanship, tattoos, weaving, carving, metal metallurgists, living in flats, and also contributing to the spread of plants that can be kept and various types of animals.
Austroasiatic people are strongly land-based people and they reside at high plateaus, valleys along long rivers, unlike Austronesian people that mostly reside along the coast of mostly Islands.
There is no the eastern Mon-Khmer. The Vietnamese and Cambodian languages are the southern Mon-Khmer.
The Vietnamese in the Yangtze River region of central China and the Minyue (Hokkien) in present-day Fujian were originally Austroasiartic peoples who spoke the same Austroasiartic language and belonged to the Mongoloid race, while the Khmers were Austroasiartic in southwestern China not living together with the Vietnamese and Minyue people in the Yangtze River region of central China, the Vietnamese and Minyue have a higher Mongoloid composition and are different from the Khmer, the Khmer belong to the Negrito Australoid group of the ancient Australoid group and less Mongoloid than the Vietnamese and Minyue, until the arrival of the Austronesians changed the anthropology of the Vietnamese and Minyue as well as their linguistic composition, the mixed Austronesian accounted for a higher proportion than the Austroasiartic in the Minyue Fujian, Austronesian languages predominate in the Minyue Austroasiartic languages, and then the Austronesians in Fujian migrated to the island of Taiwan and gradually migrated to Southeast Asia and the Pacific, after which some people The Austronesians in Fujian and the Vietnamese of the Austroasiartic group migrated to the Red River Delta in northern Vietnam, where the Austronesians united blood with the Austroasiartic Vietnamese and united to speak the Austroasiartic language. This is the reason that Vietnamese has become a combination of Austroasiartic and Austronesian components then the Austronesians from the mainland in the Red River Delta region migrated to the island of Borneo in Indonesia they preserved their Austronesian language and brought the culture of the ancient Vietnamese here and Austronesians like Dayak Iban were the Austronesian people are closest brothers and sisters to Kinh (Vietnamese) people today
Austronesian language in Vietnamese.
Vietnam:Anh (He) Indonesia:Anda
Vietnam:Bạn,Bọn (Friend) Indonesia:teMan
Vietnam:Không(No) Indonesia:buKan
Vietnam:Ta-Chúng ta. Indonesia:kiTa
Vietnam:Ăn/Món Ăn (Eat/Food)
indonesia:MakAn/MakaAn
Vietnam:Dao(Knife) Indonesia:piSau
Vietnamese and Cambodian are two different languages, don't be ignorant, human stupidity is ignorance,
Vietnamese people before 2000 BC did not live in Southwest China but they lived in Southeast China and North Vietnam
You mean to say *Vietic peoples* ...
as there was no such thing as "Vietnamese people" until the Ly Dynasty (which coincided with the Song Dynasty for time reference).
@@Suite_annamite I mean ancient Vietnamese people, maybe vietic like you said, but like in the video, the vietnamese language only comes later. Ancient Vietnamese people over 2000 years ago still speak Mon-Khmer as shown in the video
@@imnoraroundtoseeher bs
Hmmm... SE China is the homeland of Kra-Dai people this area has the highest diversity of Kra-Dai languages. Are you saying Vietnamese ancestors lived in Guangxi, Guangdong, and Hainan together with Kra-Dai? How come there isn’t a large Vietnamese presence in SE China?
@@D2E80 According to legend, we originated in southern China, and today's genomic analysis shows that the Vietnamese are genetically related to the Tai Kradai speaking peoples. In southern China, in the early days of mankind, there were ethnic groups that spoke the Austroasiatic language family
That decline.. just… wow…..
Then see the decline of Iranic languages.
@@h2eroskoryosaryakaraaryani777 Yes I’ve seen. To think the only European Iranic languages left anymore are the soon to be extinct Jaszic & Ossetian.
@@Teapoid and only central asian Iranic languages are Yaghnobi and Pamiri langs soon to be extinct. I think only Kurdish, Persian, Balochi and Pashtun will survive this century.
One group (the Vietnamese) did a lot of expansion though while the rest were declining.
Sidwell (2021) proposes that the locus of Proto-Austroasiatic was in the Red River Delta area about 4,000-4,500 years before present. Austroasiatic dispersed coastal maritime routes and also upstream through river valleys. Khmuic, Palaungic, and Khasic resulted from a westward dispersal that ultimately came from the Red River valley. Based on their current distributions, about half of all Austroasiatic branches (including Nicobaric and Munda) can be traced to coastal maritime dispersals.
I fully agree with his proposal. Makes much more sense than the one presented here. Wish Costas thought how rational it was.
How the Austroasiatic speaker come to India and the Nicobar Island if the language family’s urheimat was from Red River Delta?
@@lenguyenxuonghoa through sailing
@@lenguyenxuonghoa Austroasiatic migrated to India by upstream through river valleys or when in southern china. Based on their current distributions, about half of all Austroasiatic branches (including Nicobaric and Munda) can be traced to coastal maritime dispersals along the coast of vietnam today.
@@lenguyenxuonghoa for more info: ua-cam.com/video/QREB1UttWTI/v-deo.html
Great video Costas Melas!
Thank you very much
Despite its small size, there are still 150 million Austroasiatic speakers today plus 180 million of those that have high Austroasiatic ancestry (Peninsular Malays, Bidayuhs, Acehnese, Javanese, Sundanese etc.)
I personally now go by the theory of Maritime dispersal of Austroasiatic languages from around where Vietnam is.
What happened to Monic people?
Most of them got absorbed both by forced and more by volunteering to the Tai people migration. The thing is they don't actually like the Khmer or the way they ran the country
@@rosemichaelis9519 I think the Burmese also absorbed the Monic people that lives in present day Myanmar.
I'm Mon people in Myanmar 🇲🇲
Sino-Tibetan Languages please
Great video.
Thank you
Austroasiatic languages originated from Sichuan provinces, south of the Yangtze River.
Bro, The identification of the Austroasiatic language as coming from the upper Mekong is by Sidwell in 2009 but in 2021 he said origin is in red river delta
It is not river delta. North West VIetnam and guangxi.
@@huyngovan-uq3ll Tây Bắc Việt Nam và Quảng Tây? Có nhằm k
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Người Tráng và người Thái cổ có nguồn gốc nam á bị Tai hóa nên tui xác định gồm cả quảng tây và tây bắc Việt. Thực tế Khu vực nhóm nói hệ nam á cổ là khu vực quảng tây và nếu bỏ qua biên giới tỉnh thành và quốc gia thì địa bàn nhóm nam á mở rộng sang phía tây thuộc đông nam vân nam, mở rộng qua phía đông là phía tây quảng đông và phía bắc là quý châu và rải rác hồ nam...phía nam chính là Việt Nam. Nhóm bắc nam á ngày nay tập chung đông ở bắc Việt Lào và thái (tây bắc Việt còn có cả khmu, kháng, xinhmun...) và phân bố cả phía tây nam TQ. Phần lớn các nhóm này ở vùng núi canh tác lúa nương là chính. Như vậy có nghĩa nhóm nam á cổ vốn nằm sâu trong đất liền tiếp giáp vùng núi hoặc có cả vùng đồng bằng nhưng vẫn tập trung sâu đất liền chứ không phải dân vùng biển, điều này cũng thấy ở hầu hết các nhóm ở Việt Lào Thái hay TQ khi họ chuyển sang làm lúa nước thì có xu hướng dịch chuyển về khu vực đồng bằng hoặc ở vùng núi nhưng làm ruộng bậc thang, vậy cho nên sự hình thành ở đbsh là muộn hơn ko phải xuất phát từ đbsh. Cũng như khu vực mekong đều không phải gốc tích nhóm AA cổ.
Aslian udah austronesia.
Costas Melas I would like to talk to you about some videos you mad especially the one about writing systems
You could leave a comment below the videos
Awesome job man! Which one is next? Korean or Sinitic languages? Cannot wait for Native American languages in Autumn 2022.
Thank you very much
Actually the Native American language families are very distinct from each other so they must be in separate videos. Like we know three waves of people migrated to the Americas. The latest being the speakers of Eskimo Aleut, the middle being the speakers of Na-Dene and the earliest being speakers of all other ones (sometimes called "Amerind(ian)").
it is interesting that you didn't include the hundred Yue that many historical scholars think were Austroasiatic in nature, but otherwise great work as always
It's still unclassified, but it may be closer to Kra-Dai
the hundred yue were likely very diverse and included many linguistic families in southeast asia and south china. all those in the austric family hyphothesis likely originated around the area where ancient chinese documents speak of the supposed hundred yue. the austroasiatics mustve been those in the west to central-ish south china, then the kra-tai around the south-central areas, then the austronesians in the eastern coasts, the hmong-mien somewhere in the middle up there, then the proto-japonics somewhere northeast of there
@@CostasMelas that's true, fair enough
I believe the earliest ancestors of Modern Khmer in Cambodia were from the highlander of Laos to Northern Cambodia. And one of the branch the highlanders moved to central Vietnam and through to South Vietnam who established the Kingdom of Funan. And some of them might moved forward to the central and west of Cambodia. Once they still understood each other to the indigenous people of Thailand. If this was not it might be not their kingdom didn't mean mountain.
Vietnamese folk history believed they moved from the North southward specifically the Sichuan region. Even the Mường legend said something similar. The Khasi people in India believed they came from the root of Mekong river so it might be somewhere from Yunnan. Lao might only be where the identity of Khmer first formed. The Khmu people could be the tribe before evolving into the Khmer and they first lived in the south of Lao in the delta region before got forced to live in the North of Lao by the Tai people migration
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Khmu must be related with Khmer
@@rosemichaelis9519 Cham person has told me "they come from upstream (aka like northern mekong) Tibet (and what do you know, mekong also starts in tibet). He said there are some cham groups that did not coalesce in champa. and genetically, cham are Austroasiatic lacking lineages from taiwan, but they are mixed with austronesian.
so 1 his statement proved they are not ORIGINALLY austronesian, but also gives insight to word of mouth and legend of origin, somewhere in southern china. but how all AA groups dispersed could have been varied, rather than just all coming downstream, or all sailing like austronesian.
That's Mon-Khmer, not Austroasiatic, Austroasiatic are father of Mon-Khmer, they move from the north southward
I'm confused, I thought these were the languages that reached Madagascar and then the Pacific
That's Austronesian
@@Polavianus confused as to how Thai fits in neither
@@QuillOfTheIsles2199 Thai came from a group that came later in Southeast Asia called Kradai/Tai-Kadai
Why these languages lost their land?
Due to the expansion of Tibeto-Burman, Kra-Dai, Austronesian, Indo-Aryan peoples
@@CostasMelas thanks ❤️
The Vietnamese were the only group that managed to permanently expand from tribes, to a kingdom, to a small empire, to a modern state.
The other groups had to negotiate which one they wanted to be.
@@Suite_annamite making kingdoms are very important for expanding language.
I would say "displaced".
Mon 😭💕
I'm Khmer Mon-Khmer we are family before arrived of tai people speak tai-kradai from china
I think a lot of the mons got assimilated or join tai groups....
especially lanna tai/tai yuan (mon haripunjay kingdom) they are like 30-40% austroasiatic, and they look like half tai half mon.
siam was mon then khmer land, and probably repopulated with mons after burmese ayutthaya wars.
and yeah... rest of mons got absorbed into modern myanmar and thailand.
မွန် -မန်- MON
ភាសាខ្មែរ [ មន ] =MON
What a genocide, lol
Polish girl are beaultiful
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Yes, they are
where dat year 0 time stamp..
Afroasiatic languages pls
He didn’t complete all (sub)families though. He will when they are done. I am pretty sure it originated in Ethiopia at around 16000-10000 BC. I hope he shows my expectations.
@@snigdha8404 ethiopia or somalia or kenya