WTF Happened to Troy?

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  • Опубліковано 24 січ 2025
  • If we’re talking about the best historical cinematic epics of all time, what are the first few titles that leap to mind? Kubrick’s Spartacus? Lean’s Lawrence of Arabia? Maybe Gibson’s Braveheart? Whatever the answer is, chances are, despite earning half a billion dollars worldwide, Wolfgang Petersen’s Troy isn’t likely the first movie that tops the list. But why is that? After all, Troy was not only a monumental box office hit, but it also fared pretty well among critics and general filmgoers alike. Moreover, with Homer’s timeless tale of The Iliad guiding the way, it would seem as though Troy would resonate longer in the public’s collective consciousness and rank among the all-time best and most durable biographical epics. Yet, despite the impressive size, scale, and scope of the big-screen spectacle that chronicles the intense war between the Greeks and the Trojan Army, Troy has sort of been forgotten at best and relegated towards the middle of the heap at worst, with titular star Brad Pitt himself voicing his own displeasure with the picture.
    Aside from Pitt’s own misgivings with the final outcome, we’re about to delve deep into the production history for Troy and document everything from the development phase and the casting process to the troubled intercontinental film shoot that was marred by inclement weather, destroyed sets, emergency relocation, injurious delays, tragic fatalities, on-set arrests, exploited background extras, and other unforeseen mishaps that led to Troy becoming one of the most expensive Hollywood movies in history. Sound good? Let’s go find out once and for all, WTF happened to Troy!
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  • @PMG_89
    @PMG_89 Рік тому +1776

    I had this movie on VHS and used to watch it constantly. The music at the beach landing scene was EPIC. Also, the irony of a movie where the vast majority of characters die, yet Sean Bean survives.

    • @interdimensionalsteve8172
      @interdimensionalsteve8172 Рік тому +35

      the only thing I remember is two armies stopped fighting "for the day" when a kid got killed or something. I never got over the ridiculousness of that :)

    • @intellectic9155
      @intellectic9155 Рік тому +1

      @@interdimensionalsteve8172 That's because you're a dunce.

    • @ianashby3626
      @ianashby3626 Рік тому +12

      I enjoy the film but reminds me of a aftershave ad

    • @stellviahohenheim
      @stellviahohenheim Рік тому +2

      nobody asked

    • @FlymanMS
      @FlymanMS Рік тому +18

      @@stellviahohenheim shoo, shoo

  • @barbiquearea
    @barbiquearea Рік тому +1193

    The fight scene between Brad Pitt and Eric Bana was one of the best sword duels ever put to film. I heard the two actors trained for weeks before they shot the scene.

    • @spaceyjim0076
      @spaceyjim0076 Рік тому +5

      You don’t say

    • @mmurmurjohnson2368
      @mmurmurjohnson2368 Рік тому +45

      Easily one of the greatest, they all thought Hector had a chance against Achilles, heck I even did.......for a minute......then Bradd Pitt did a spear dance in the middle of the fight and..........well

    • @frankrabbit2247
      @frankrabbit2247 Рік тому +10

      It's true. They also had a gentleman's bet for accidental hits. Eric Banah didn't owe Brad Pitt a thing....Brad Pitt however. Hahaha

    • @empirate100
      @empirate100 Рік тому +8

      @@frankrabbit2247 So what they said in the video, then? Wow.

    • @frankrabbit2247
      @frankrabbit2247 Рік тому +4

      @empirate100 to be honest, wrote that before I got to that part of the video.

  • @yafka
    @yafka Рік тому +414

    I really liked Troy. The Peter O’Toole scene with Pitt, asking for his son’s body back was my favorite scene.

    • @vasilisgorgogiannis5517
      @vasilisgorgogiannis5517 Рік тому +16

      In the Iliad this is the last chapter.

    • @alvarosaavedra3319
      @alvarosaavedra3319 Рік тому +27

      "I loved my son from the moment he opened his eyes until the moment you closed them."

    • @ilikechopin8112
      @ilikechopin8112 Рік тому +9

      Masterpiece scene, captures brilliantly the empathy developed along the epic battle between the heroes of both armies

    • @ChristiansPlaymo-Ecke
      @ChristiansPlaymo-Ecke Рік тому +2

      That is literally the finale of the Iliad.

    • @Brandonhayhew
      @Brandonhayhew Рік тому

      peter o tool best performance is The lion in the winter and Lawrence of arabia

  • @stevenvegh7964
    @stevenvegh7964 Рік тому +65

    The buildup leading to the duel between Hector and Achilles and then the actual quality of the duel itself make it possibly the best ever filmed.

  • @henfarasubtitrare9764
    @henfarasubtitrare9764 Рік тому +812

    Absolutely love it. Everyone is great in it, but Eric Bana as Hector steals the show.

    • @Ugly_German_Truths
      @Ugly_German_Truths Рік тому +3

      Which i thought they wanted Orlando Bloom to do... whose role was cut just a tiny bit too much to have any such effect.

    • @gypsydildopunks7083
      @gypsydildopunks7083 Рік тому +8

      I love Bana, Chopper is one of my favorite films. But his Aussie accent constantly comes out. Doesn't bother me, it happens though

    • @petel5781
      @petel5781 Рік тому +27

      The moment Bana died I was ready to walk out. It was obviously going to be downhill from there.

    • @evanhayes5891
      @evanhayes5891 Рік тому +24

      HECTOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @Timbo6669
      @Timbo6669 Рік тому +4

      @@petel5781you didn’t read _the Iliad_ then? It’s the one thing that was actually accurate in this movie.

  • @gregoryrome2751
    @gregoryrome2751 Рік тому +91

    Man that beach battle scene. Especially the climax when Achilles was going up the stairs killing everyone in his path… that was epic as hell.

    • @AlejandroRasmussen7
      @AlejandroRasmussen7 Місяць тому

      And horners score in that scene is amazing. I also like how its implied that Achilles is spiritually protected without showing gods..in that scene achilles hurls his schield to his back and at that precise moment it blocks an arrow that would’ve killed him

  • @DC-co3gf
    @DC-co3gf Рік тому +936

    This is a highly underrated film. It's quotable, has some of the coolest fight choreography, and it holds the line on being truly epic without feeling silly. Achilles presented as more of a Michael Jordan, rather than mythical demigod is just the right amount of sauce. Everything is a little more grounded for Homer epic. 👍👍

    • @Sturmvapor
      @Sturmvapor Рік тому +11

      Damn Straight

    • @evanhayes5891
      @evanhayes5891 Рік тому +8

      Brad did... okay as Achilles.

    • @matthewhudson5685
      @matthewhudson5685 Рік тому +6

      Agreed.
      But most of the scenes were very 'blocky', standard fare.
      There was very little drama in the camera angles and perspectives shown.
      It was too 'set piece' to be a great film.

    • @josepha3805
      @josepha3805 Рік тому +4

      Every minute is amazin'

    • @Imakebootysclap
      @Imakebootysclap Рік тому +3

      check out Centurion! if you like Troy, brave heart, gladiator type movies check out Centurion with Michael Fassbender. It even has a grate beginning like Troy does. That is the most underrated of all underrated movies ever, that and Mr Brooks with Kevin Costner, thats a different type of movie but still way underrated!

  • @danthestuntman
    @danthestuntman 11 місяців тому +25

    You did a great job on this. I was a stuntman on the movie and spotted myself a few times which brought back great memories. I was a young 28year old fairly new stuntman then and it blew my mind how massive this all was. Such fond memories. I screen grabbed some shots of myself and the stunties. I’ll be sending them some good pics. Regards Dan

  • @ronin7997
    @ronin7997 Рік тому +342

    Troy is still a great historical epic for me, and the duel between Hector and Achilles is still one of my all time favorite scenes. I prefer the director’s extended version, but favor the theatrical soundtrack.

    • @Ugly_German_Truths
      @Ugly_German_Truths Рік тому +10

      unfortunately there is no history in this "historical epic". The looks are almost a thousand years too modern for example... more Persian Wars/Alexander era than 1250 BCE. And if you wanted to ditch the gods and religious aspects, why not actually go with greek Trojans and anatolian Hittites like the historical research favors?

    • @peterwyetzner5276
      @peterwyetzner5276 Рік тому +15

      @@Ugly_German_Truths Well, the Iliad isn't historical in itself- it's a saga developed hundreds of years after the events it's based on took place, and naturally reflects the culture of its own time more than the Bronze Age, which we know more about than the Greeks of say the ninth century did.

    • @CobrettiKai
      @CobrettiKai Рік тому +17

      Yeah, the video makes it sound like this was some kind of absolute disaster in all aspects, but the end result is a great and entertaining flick.

    • @ansibarius4633
      @ansibarius4633 Рік тому +3

      @@peterwyetzner5276 An absolutely valid point, but then again, if they wanted to depict a Trojan War as the later Greeks themselves imagined it, why throw out all the supernatural elements that were to the same Greeks an integral part of their story?

    • @batkhulegjargalsaikhan8497
      @batkhulegjargalsaikhan8497 Рік тому +1

      Troy is not based on history, its a myth 😂
      Mongol empire is history kid...

  • @genemaxwell4
    @genemaxwell4 Рік тому +89

    This is literally my favorite movie of all time. Idk how anyone can not like it or find it memorable

  • @michaflorian7954
    @michaflorian7954 Рік тому +98

    "Troy" only years later gained the status it had always deserved. For me, this film has always been very underrated. I was also very happy with the director's cut.

  • @HSdurty
    @HSdurty Рік тому +27

    Great movies especially the duel with Achilles and Hector, the emotion by all actors including the observers and even the choreography was awesome

  • @ericfunk1361
    @ericfunk1361 Рік тому +178

    I always enjoyed Troy. There are decisions that might not rub some people the right way, but I think it was an entertaining and enjoyable movie. I'd always hoped for a "sequel" with Sean Bean reprising Odysseus in a retelling of the Odyssey.

    • @markelijio6012
      @markelijio6012 Рік тому +3

      Hoped for sequels? Well, I hate to tell you this: it's best to watch the filmmakers' extended version. Although "Troy" was an financial success
      it has earned an Academy Award nomination for Bob Ringwood's lavish costumes in 2005.

    • @riffbw
      @riffbw Рік тому +19

      I'm surprised we didn't get an Odyssey with Sean Bean following Troy. The movie was a financial success and fans loved it. Troy followed up on the success of Gladiator and it was followed by Clash of the Titans and Percy Jackson 6 years later. 300 was also well received even if it was incredibly inaccurate. I'm really shocked they didn't trying to get the Odyssey out there by 2008. Troy really seemed to spark a Greek Mythology resurgence in theaters and letting Sean Bean headline would have been perfect since fans loved him as Odysseys and he was a huge draw after doing Clear and Present Danger, Goldeneye, and Lord of the Rings.

    • @jarrodbright5231
      @jarrodbright5231 Рік тому +4

      Due to its nature, The Odyssey would have been best told as a TV series. Who knows? If this had been made today after such series as Rome and Game of Thrones perhaps we woudl have seen a 1-2 season series of The Odyssey following on from Troy on one of the big streaming platforms. And Bean was the perfect casting as Odysseus.

    • @markelijio6012
      @markelijio6012 Рік тому

      True.@@jarrodbright5231

    • @undiscoveredjourneys6788
      @undiscoveredjourneys6788 11 місяців тому +5

      @@jarrodbright5231 It is was made today then unfortunately they would make half the characters black and probably force lots of woke rubbish into it.

  • @JamesDB2
    @JamesDB2 Рік тому +124

    Finding out David Benioff wrote Troy makes so much sense

    • @Emy-fv5ny
      @Emy-fv5ny 8 місяців тому +19

      "If that meant that I was cheating on Homer then so be it" Benioff was born to f... other ppl's works.

    • @revengance4149
      @revengance4149 8 місяців тому +2

      @@Emy-fv5ny I disagree at least with Troy. adaptations need to make changes, and I enjoyed the movie. Besides DnD gave us 4 seasons of peak television, doesn't mean they didn't fuck it up in the end but hey

    • @Emy-fv5ny
      @Emy-fv5ny 8 місяців тому +3

      @@revengance4149 Also, the movie is not good just because YOU like it, that's childish.
      The movie is average.

    • @revengance4149
      @revengance4149 8 місяців тому +2

      @@Emy-fv5ny but that's no argument for why making changes to a tousand year old poem is "f... other ppl's work". also you can say Im childish but
      1. I didn't say anything about the movies quality only that I liked it
      2. even if I had you didn't make a argument for why it's average regardless of weather it is or not.
      3. if it was average that still means it worked as a movie which it wouldn't have without making changes and leaving things out

    • @Emy-fv5ny
      @Emy-fv5ny 8 місяців тому +1

      @@revengance4149 Nothing good comes from someone who doesn't respect the creators of the pieces of work he has to adapt and I don't need to mention the examples for prooving my case.
      As I don't need to make an argument about this movie. Do You like the movie? Great, good for you.

  • @_Luluko_
    @_Luluko_ Рік тому +75

    One of the few movies I own on DVD and at least watch once a year. Really good.

    • @justicierodelaliga
      @justicierodelaliga Рік тому +6

      Just once? You should watch it once every week.

    • @linewalker
      @linewalker Рік тому +6

      Yes, it is very rewatchable. Definitely in top 10 for epics.

    • @202true
      @202true Рік тому +1

      Facts!!!!

    • @yttis3257
      @yttis3257 Рік тому +2

      The directors cut is super bloody. It's like 30 minutes more and it's all gore.

  • @hezixiao
    @hezixiao Рік тому +12

    For one reason or another, Troy just feels special, and will always remain special to me.

  • @MizzahTee
    @MizzahTee Рік тому +52

    I LOVE Troy and it’s definitely up there in the ranks for me when it comes to historical war epics. That opening “fight” with the big body builder dude was so badass and sets up Achilles character and mystique expertly!

    • @batkhulegjargalsaikhan8497
      @batkhulegjargalsaikhan8497 Рік тому +1

      Again, Troy is not based on history, its a myth. Mongol Empire, Alexander the Great is history

    • @Josak17
      @Josak17 Рік тому +1

      @@batkhulegjargalsaikhan8497 The Iliad exists in the combination of mythology and history that was basically all history for millennia, just like say the Romance of the Three kingdoms does, there was a historical city of Troy, there was a war between allied Greek states and the city, the war became an epic of the oral tradition before becoming the Iliad as we know it today, it is neither fully history nor fully myth:
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_the_Iliad

  • @FAZman23
    @FAZman23 Рік тому +42

    I loved the scene between O'Toole and Pitt. It was heartbreaking watching a father plead for the body of his dead son, so that he can put the coins on his eyes and offer him to the gods.

    • @Bunny11344
      @Bunny11344 9 місяців тому +1

      Sadly I remember watching this as a teen and this is the only movie I found Brad Pitt incredibly sexy. I never noticed the scene between the king and him until 2 days ago when I rewatched it again

  • @flyguy7825
    @flyguy7825 Рік тому +87

    I love the movie. It's my favorite Brad Pitt movie plus it had an all-star cast. It's my favorite interpretation of the Greek Story.

    • @justicierodelaliga
      @justicierodelaliga Рік тому +2

      Do you watch it at least once every day?

    • @flyguy7825
      @flyguy7825 Рік тому +1

      @@justicierodelaliga No, but I've seen some of it a few weeks ago on sci-fi

    • @kerry-j4m
      @kerry-j4m Рік тому +3

      I LOVE this film and most-SWORD and-SANDALS-films,enjoyed it from start to finish. GREAT fight scenes,especially armies against other armies.I didn't know about all the crazy things that happened during production tho,but, they pushed forward and finished it. SALUTE.

    • @flyguy7825
      @flyguy7825 Рік тому +4

      @@kerry-j4m Exactly. It's a very well shot movie. The cast is absolutely fantastic and Brad Pitt shines as Achilles.

    • @kerry-j4m
      @kerry-j4m Рік тому +1

      @@flyguy7825 AGREED. Live Long and Prosper.

  • @Justinian43
    @Justinian43 Рік тому +69

    I absolutely loved Troy, Troy and Kingdom of Heaven (both starring Orlando Bloom) are so highly underrated. The vast battle scenes of Troyand the choreography make it unforgettable 15:17

    • @AdjustinThings
      @AdjustinThings Рік тому +7

      Kingdom of Heaven directors cut DVD

    • @SnidgetAsphodel
      @SnidgetAsphodel Рік тому +3

      The Director's Cut of Kingdom of Heaven is a masterpiece imo. The theatrical is fine. But man, I wish more people would see the Director's Cut and give it the credit it is due.

    • @RafeNord
      @RafeNord Рік тому +1

      It’s a great testament to the greatness of Kingdom of Heaven The Directors Cut that Orloomo Bland does not really diminish the movie although LOTR managed with an even more monumental achievement of having the perfect part for him

    • @mattzalot2576
      @mattzalot2576 Рік тому

      So weird
      I consider both of those movies to be bloated, forgettable, and not nearly worth their inflated budgets

    • @Justinian43
      @Justinian43 Рік тому +1

      @@mattzalot2576 oh no man, for me they are unforgettable, especially Kingdom of Heaven. I also got a lot of respect for films with sets and practical effects

  • @andyelliott1984
    @andyelliott1984 Рік тому +83

    I love Troy, we should cherish all these historical epic movies like Alexander, Ben Hur, Braveheart, Gladiator, Kingdom of Heaven, Spartacus and Troy. You will not see movies like this again, filmed on film with no modern day social or political messaging. Epics that used practical sets, real stunt work, live action military battles, hammy acting and visceral violence.

    • @TheBlueCopperrrX
      @TheBlueCopperrrX Рік тому +1

      Sword and Sandals will come back into style one day,
      However it absolutely will include..
      -Women who can fight just as strong and badass as Achilles ok!!
      -Socialist utopia propaganda, -
      -White people-Evil,Cowardice / yellow brown black people-Heroic,Brave, Not a bad bone in their body perfect … And these tropes will continue until Hollywood goes bankrupt or something or someone rises to threaten Hollywood’s monopoly at the top #fuck2010+ Hollywood

    • @JS-wp4gs
      @JS-wp4gs Рік тому +2

      We won't see movies like them again because they were all garbage movies with bad writing and over inflated budgets

    • @punchforpound2808
      @punchforpound2808 Рік тому +7

      Big NO to Alexander. That movie was the "Ridley Scott's Napoleon" of its time. But otherwise, I agree!!

    • @Chris-yv2iv
      @Chris-yv2iv Рік тому +2

      @@punchforpound2808nah Alexander the Great is very accurate what are you talking about? I love the movie I like Troy also.

    • @punchforpound2808
      @punchforpound2808 Рік тому +1

      "nah Alexander the Great is very accurate"@@Chris-yv2iv
      No they made him a whiney unhinged beta boy driven primarily by mother/father issues, who is clearly gay/bi (which is non-historical speculation, unproven), and who no army would ever follow. Colin Farrell is widely panned for his performance.

  • @Ken-fh4jc
    @Ken-fh4jc Рік тому +41

    I honestly never understand why this film gets so much hate. It was perfectly cast even down to the smaller roles. I was maybe 19 or 20 when it came out and when I first saw Diane Kruger I thought to myself “that is the most beautiful woman I have ever seen.”

    • @ebenezer4107
      @ebenezer4107 Рік тому +6

      Anachronisms and distortion of the moral and ethical values of Mycenaean society. Achilles was born in archaic Greece and not in Los Angeles.
      In addition to the completely wrong historical reconstruction.
      It is commonly accepted that the Trojan war happened circa 1200 BC, although the archaeological evidence and the astronomical information given by Homer point to about two thousand years earlier.
      During those times, Greece's cultural phase was the Minoan/Mycenean. The wall paintings in the Minoan and Mycenean palaces and the archaeological findings show us exactly what armor, shields and weaponry were used back then by Greeks. Instead, in the film we see slightly modified versions of weaponry of the Classical period. The same goes with naval vessels. Myceneans, Spartans, Minoans etc. did NOT have triremes

    • @lw3646
      @lw3646 Рік тому +3

      ​@ebenezer4107 I think most people will forgive inaccuracies if the movie is great, chariots of fire is a film I love but it's not totally accurate. The problem was it did seem to commercial, too Hollywood, trying to make it into more of a good v evil story is like trying to fit a round peg into a square hole with the source material. The romance between Helen and Paris was completely flat if we're honest and it just seemed too concerned with getting to the next action sequence. It comes off as more of an action movie than a proper historic epic movie.

    • @killerflamingo9566
      @killerflamingo9566 Рік тому

      I think it was just overhyped at the time and people got annoyed

  • @playingbadgolfwell9732
    @playingbadgolfwell9732 Рік тому +138

    Fun movie. Personally, I don't care if it was historically accurate or true to the book. I watch it for the entertainment value, not to prep for a college exam. But maybe that's just me.

    • @TheDRODOR
      @TheDRODOR Рік тому +6

      This is exactly what i thought about Ridley Scott's Napoleon

    • @SoulforSale
      @SoulforSale Рік тому +5

      There was a book??
      (jk)

    • @davidfernandez8515
      @davidfernandez8515 Рік тому +10

      I've read the Iliad and the movie simply improves on the book, there's no other way to say it. It'd impossible to adapt it faithfully and make a good movie. It's a book written around the 8th century b.C., there's no way it'd appeal to the public of today. The fatalism, the lengthy descriptions, the constant intertwining with the Olympus... All these things would be horrendous for a movie. The script took all the more dramatic pieces of the story and made a cohesive narrative adequate for the medium.
      Anyone who complains about the story either hasn't actually read the Iliad or knows nothing about cinema.

    • @charlieprince8671
      @charlieprince8671 Рік тому +4

      ​@@davidfernandez8515iunno I've always wanted to see Diomedes with a battle aura like an anime character as described in the text lol

    • @giannisksanthopoulos4300
      @giannisksanthopoulos4300 Рік тому +1

      @@davidfernandez8515 Well of course Hollywood will make changes, its normal. This is a great popcorn movie that we shouldnt take it too seriously. Those kinda movies are like "Shut your brain and watch - movies"
      I liked the movie because its more grounded and there are no gods, but i will never tell that the movie improves the book... this is nonsense in many ways.

  • @AaronB8288
    @AaronB8288 Рік тому +1

    This is one of my all time favorite movies. Had it on VHS and now on DVD. This movie is criminally underrated

  • @jaydaytoday3548
    @jaydaytoday3548 Рік тому +5

    Troy is a great blockbuster. Saw it my last days of senior year in High School during English class back in 05. Awesome memories.

  • @John-yh3je
    @John-yh3je 11 днів тому +3

    This guy is out of is dam mind. Everyone thats watched this movie loves it and remembers it well.

  • @OberynTheRedViper
    @OberynTheRedViper Рік тому +22

    I get why Greek myth/historians don't like it due to the massively conpressedtimeline and some changes in motivations for some of the characters, but as a standalone film, I absolutely LOVE this movie.

  • @SpencerJ289
    @SpencerJ289 Рік тому +8

    “Look at his face when he lands”
    Let me just put a ton of text right over his face I told you to look at

  • @Teamo86
    @Teamo86 Рік тому +15

    It doesn't do the source material justice, but that fight between Bana and Pitt was rad.

    • @Mastakilla91
      @Mastakilla91 Місяць тому +1

      That's to be expected from a movie trying to compress a whole war into 2,5 hours of screenplay.

  • @DiocletianLarius
    @DiocletianLarius Рік тому +5

    Bro what, I didn't know this movie was "underrated" D: It's one of my childhood's classics! My only criticism is the lack of ""historical"" accuracy, but that's a curse all Trojan war movies/series seem to have. It's kinda funny because they go great lengths to invent or design new fantasy armors and weapons all while we literally know the exact type of armor and weapons that the Bronce Age Mycenaeans used to wear.
    Same with the story, why they always invent something entirely new? Bruh you literally have the Iliad and Quintus of Smyrna's "Posthomerica". It's way more difficult and costly to brainstorm new ideas and scripts than to just follow the d4mn books!

  • @Toni62R
    @Toni62R Рік тому +13

    I love this movie: - the power of Achilles, the braveness of hector - and the coolness of Odysseus!

  • @theamazinbob1
    @theamazinbob1 Рік тому +12

    I just watched the directors cut a few weeks back. This movie was phenomenal. I think most people enjoyed this film.

  • @nayte1
    @nayte1 Рік тому +8

    The fight between Hector and Achilles was the best fight scene in a long time

  • @NicolaMotricala
    @NicolaMotricala Рік тому +2

    Still one of my favourite movies ever.. watched it many times, it's always entertaining like the first time

  • @emorywarren8311
    @emorywarren8311 Рік тому +5

    The way the movie shows both armies equally makes it that much more compelling. Still holds up IMO

  • @kylefromnz
    @kylefromnz 18 днів тому +2

    10:16 Boagrius is not a Trojan warrior, he was a Thessalonian. He is the best fighter of King Triopas of Thessaly.

  • @azohundred1353
    @azohundred1353 Рік тому +35

    Peter O'Toole & Julie Christie's casting was a nice throwback to the classic epics, Lawrence Of Arabia and Doctor Zhivago. Wolfgang Petersen definitely had the spirit and clearly wanted to make a great epic himself, even if some of its own cast had their problems with it.

  • @chidmania8485
    @chidmania8485 Рік тому +13

    I loved that movie. And I still do.
    Pitt gave us the definitive Achilles (and there is no one else!) and Bana was amazing as Hector.

  • @velvetram2975
    @velvetram2975 Рік тому +19

    I watch this movie at least once a year. The directors cut is even better.

  • @strike4177
    @strike4177 Рік тому +2

    This was a great movie. I remember if I was ever flipping thru channels back in the day and it was on, I'd watch it every single time.

  • @Bradley-pc9vx
    @Bradley-pc9vx Рік тому +6

    Troy is actually one of my favorite movies we need movies like this again with real actors.

  • @plsmodium
    @plsmodium Рік тому +2

    "Men are haunted by the vastness of eternity. And so we ask ourselves: will our actions echo across the centuries? Will strangers hear our names long after we are gone, and wonder who we were, how bravely we fought, how fiercely we loved?" Epic.

  • @danieltallon4316
    @danieltallon4316 Рік тому +3

    Troy is amazing and I’ll continue to watch it again and again, while I’ll avoid Braveheart like the plague.

  • @ecayari
    @ecayari Рік тому +2

    I remember reading the Iliad when i was in High School. Troy for me gives a down to earth version of the story. It makes the characters more human with no mystical interferance. Despite of the problems and unwillingness Brad Pitt had in the movie, His portrayal of Achilles was just a perfect fit.

  • @Bonkatsu12
    @Bonkatsu12 Рік тому +24

    The problem with Troy is the script by David fucking Benioff. There is just no depth to it. It’s all surface. The characters all go on and on saying this is the greatest war of all time. But do we actually see anything to make it great? Pitt nails it with his comment.

    • @Bunny11344
      @Bunny11344 9 місяців тому +1

      lol sadly I enjoyed it for the Brad Pitt eye * candy

    • @anaihilator
      @anaihilator Місяць тому +3

      Exactly right, there is no depth within or between characters.
      I see no great love with Paris and Helen. There is nothing to indicate the scope of the war. Which lasted ten years.
      The film gives us information, but it doesn't make us feel anything.

  • @nealandkriz
    @nealandkriz Рік тому +4

    Thank you for putting the salaries of the extras in contrast to the ridiculous amounts the stars made.
    Troy is an amazing and immensely watchable epic. The production quality is very high, made in a time without fatiguing amounts of bad CGI. Of course, most of the casting choices are ridiculous for ancient greek/turkish people, but they used the right faces for the right characters. Brian Cox and Brandan Gleeson are perfect for their respective roles.

    • @albertofernandez2490
      @albertofernandez2490 Рік тому +1

      there were no Turkish people there in 800 BCE

    • @nealandkriz
      @nealandkriz Рік тому +1

      @@albertofernandez2490 no, but Trojans, citizens of a place that was arguably located somewhere in todays country of Turkey. The point being, most likely very few of the participants in a Trojan war would have looked like Brendan Gleeson, Diane Kruger or Brad Pitt. But it’s a work of a time with way less sensibility for these topics.

    • @albertofernandez2490
      @albertofernandez2490 Рік тому

      @@nealandkriz do you understand that Turkish people stated migrating to Asia Minor 2000 years after The Iliad was written?

    • @nealandkriz
      @nealandkriz Рік тому

      @@albertofernandez2490 I did not know that. Thank you for educating me on this, still completely missing the point of the original post

    • @albertofernandez2490
      @albertofernandez2490 Рік тому

      @@nealandkriz how should they look then? like Turkish people who weren't there for another 2000 years?

  • @Hartin31
    @Hartin31 Рік тому +4

    It didn't try to be anything other than what it was and it worked. One of my favorite movies.

  • @scottmcmahan1158
    @scottmcmahan1158 Рік тому +1

    I didn’t know that this wasn’t a huge movie until I watched this video lol. This is one of my favorite movies!

  • @GD-yl4lu
    @GD-yl4lu Рік тому +13

    Troy and Kingdom of Heaven get far too much undeserved flak. Both of them are massively underrated films.

    • @FrancT-
      @FrancT- Рік тому +2

      The directors cut of Kingdom of Heaven is a very good film.

  • @elijahisrael555
    @elijahisrael555 Місяць тому +1

    TROY is literally one of my top 10 favorite movies....... It a surely reached its rank as box office hit 💯

  • @gernblanston3363
    @gernblanston3363 Рік тому +5

    I'm a fan of the flick and revisit it at least once a year. Although the version I revisit at least once a year is the Director's Cut, which I prefer. That said, I don't remember ever disliking the Theatrical version, just that the additional scenes and character development strengthened the epic nature of such a story.

  • @jowieonit
    @jowieonit Рік тому +1

    forgotten? dude its in my mind living rent free for decades

  • @jrcardoso2853
    @jrcardoso2853 Рік тому +10

    i love the battle with hector and achilles. I remember watching this movie as a kid with my fam and secretly rooting for the greeks😬

  • @Neamhain97
    @Neamhain97 Рік тому +1

    Dude this movie will forever be remembered as a masterpiece. I've bonded over this movie with fellow 90s kids, never met a single person i didn't like that enjoyed troy lol

  • @Leo.de99
    @Leo.de99 Рік тому +5

    I love this movie, I watched it first as a kid and it was part of my childhood always pretended while playing in the woods with my friends to be Achilles lol

  • @kora4185
    @kora4185 2 місяці тому +1

    This is my family’s movie. It’s the one we would ALL sit to watch it again and again every summer 🥹

    • @m.n.s.s2825
      @m.n.s.s2825 23 дні тому

      how would watch the adult scenes with family lol

    • @kora4185
      @kora4185 22 дні тому

      @ it was awkward the first times I guess but now we don’t mind. I always wonder how families watch game for thrones though, I can’t imagine in mine 😅

  • @bushibayushi
    @bushibayushi Рік тому +5

    Gladiator, Troy, Braveheart, The Last Samurai - I've seen these movies countless times, absolute masterpieces IMO and infinitely rewatchable. And all of these movies have wonderful soundtracks.

  • @dannypope1860
    @dannypope1860 Рік тому +1

    Troy was FANTASTIC! And they play it on TV all the time…
    What about it has been forgotten?!?

  • @edwinjusto5739
    @edwinjusto5739 Рік тому +3

    In my opinion this isn’t just a fantastic grand epic historical movie but one of the absolute best the sets are fantastic the acting is superb and i do my best to rewatch this movie at least once a year which is something i only do with my top 15 fav movies of all time

    • @batkhulegjargalsaikhan8497
      @batkhulegjargalsaikhan8497 Рік тому

      Troy is not historcal movie, its just a good mythical entertaining movie. Mongol Empire, Alexander the Great are history

  • @StewartFletcher
    @StewartFletcher Рік тому

    Literally one of my favorite, most underrated historical epics ever. I love it. It's just so good

  • @mildlydazed9608
    @mildlydazed9608 Рік тому +7

    Nothing happened to it. The dvd is still on my shelf

  • @alanacevedo4928
    @alanacevedo4928 Рік тому +1

    In my personal life most people I’ve encountered know of this movie. And it stands as one of my favorites, so definitely not forgotten imo

  • @MagicMaus29
    @MagicMaus29 Рік тому +4

    How hard can it be to pronounce “Das Boot” correctly?!

  • @JeffreyDeCristofaro
    @JeffreyDeCristofaro 5 місяців тому

    Was 18 going on 19 when I went with my family to see it - undeniably one of the big-screen events of my early young adulthood.

  • @LeonardoKlotz
    @LeonardoKlotz Рік тому +10

    RIP Wolfgang Petersen

  • @the_SolLoser
    @the_SolLoser Рік тому +1

    The movie holds up. It's easily in my Top 5 for Historical Dramas; right up there with Braveheart, Gladiator, The Patriot, and 13th Warrior. Honourable mentions: the Guy Ritchie King Arthur movie, A Knight's Tale and Last Of The Mohicans.
    These are in no particular order.

  • @Rockstar-bq5fm
    @Rockstar-bq5fm Рік тому +4

    Really?? Anyone I talk to about Troy has nothing but good things to say about the film. Especially Eric Bana’s performance

  • @forfoxsake387
    @forfoxsake387 Рік тому +1

    Literally have seen it a couple hundred times, it's my all-time favorite movie

  • @Xbox360Cineast
    @Xbox360Cineast Рік тому +6

    I liked it a lot.

  • @Davido50
    @Davido50 Рік тому +1

    Loved the biographical masterpiece Troy. Who doesnt? Excellent acting by all involved.

  • @donaldlewis567
    @donaldlewis567 Рік тому +5

    For me it is because Patroclus was not Achille's lover. They are one of the best couples in history and he was relegated to a younger relative of Achilles :( When we visited Troy this year, the tour guide made many mentions of the importance of this couple which was nice to hear. The movie set Trojan horse is featured prominently in the city center and was awesome to see!

    • @faq187tim9
      @faq187tim9 Рік тому +6

      Patroclus is not Achilles's lover in the Iliad, that is literally made up.

    • @nicholasscott5905
      @nicholasscott5905 Рік тому +1

      Gay

  • @bobbyleeper
    @bobbyleeper Рік тому +2

    One of my all time favorite movies. I thought Banna's career was going to sky rocket after this.

  • @SPACEB0YZER0
    @SPACEB0YZER0 Рік тому +5

    I liked it quite a bit

  • @86ortega
    @86ortega Рік тому

    Your opening monologue is news to me. Troy has Always been a top 10 all time film for me.

  • @ApexPunisherX
    @ApexPunisherX Рік тому +10

    Disagree with you saying Troy isn't viewed as a good movie. Most people I've talked to loved Troy even more than 300 or Gladiator. Which are more appropriate comparisons that those other films you listed.

    • @deepakdubey1130
      @deepakdubey1130 6 днів тому

      Yes troy was better than 300 and gladiator

  • @eliteviktor3
    @eliteviktor3 Рік тому

    One of my favorite movies. I watched this so many times as a kid on VHS when it came out.

  • @kennywilkinson913
    @kennywilkinson913 Рік тому +5

    Chopper wasn't a prison drama, its was a semi auto Biographical movie which had scenes within prison at varying times

  • @dannyboy4140
    @dannyboy4140 Рік тому

    One of the movies ive rewatched time and again. Never met anyone who didnt like it.

  • @grapeshot
    @grapeshot Рік тому +4

    IT'S YOURS TAKE IT !!!!!!

  • @IxNxFxExRxNxO
    @IxNxFxExRxNxO Рік тому

    Maltese here, used to train at the same gym George Camilleri and many other extras used to work out at. His passing was a hard blow.

  • @royhay5741
    @royhay5741 Рік тому +3

    Troy: The Director's Cut is objectively one of the best movies ever made. Period.

  • @amalgama2000
    @amalgama2000 Рік тому

    What happened behind the scene is just interesting side notes. The movie itself is grand and epic. I watched it several times and was deeply satisfied each time. Thank to all the people involved and especially to Wolfgang Petersen

  • @cavaliermmiv
    @cavaliermmiv Рік тому +3

    I remember being so excited to see this movie! And the first combat scene was so amazing! No playing around, just rushing in for the kill first chance. I was a little disappointed in the story line, wishing they had stayed closer to the original.
    But what really turned me off were the following battles and duels, especially the "Saving Privat Ryan" beach landing. No. Just no. Despite the precedent set by the first duel, the rest of the fights look carefully choreographed dances. Instead of just going in for the kill, they show off some extremely ridiculous moves that would have got them killed instantly if the other combatant hadn't agreed to play their game.
    I left so disappointed. If only they had read the book. War is not glorified there. It's heroes challenging each other, mostly scared out of their wits but pushed by their sense of honour and pride. and then trying to kill with spears and rocks. Yeah, a lot of rocks get thrown. Then more people will rush in to try claim the body, and more importatnly, the armour. If all goes well, they may push further, trying to kill retreating enemies since that's safer than trying to kill men holding their ground.
    So yeah, Brad Pitt was right. "Here's the hero!!!!". Could have been so epic, but instead it was crap with pretty packaging.

  • @kyleVanZan
    @kyleVanZan Місяць тому

    Troy is one of my favourite movies ever! It’s forgotten because it doesn’t insist upon itself like most epic historical movies

  • @jamesives4375
    @jamesives4375 Рік тому +2

    11:23 I’m sorry. dude broke his leg? Went in for surgery on a leg injury? And died? WTF Happened?!?

  • @badism8369
    @badism8369 25 днів тому

    Directors cut is fantastic and one of my favourite epics. I try to watch it every other year.

  • @allikohcysp
    @allikohcysp Рік тому

    Wow the treatment of the extras just wow. This will forever mar my view of this movie.

  • @Giballi24
    @Giballi24 29 днів тому

    One of my favorite movies of all time. So underrated.

  • @Akekala
    @Akekala Рік тому

    Oh boy! My uncle introduced me to this masterpiece. We would sit by the fire and recite the script! Epic days!😊

  • @rickycoe3058
    @rickycoe3058 Рік тому

    Troy is a classic, one of the few movies I will not turn off if I come across it.

  • @landrymutombo8402
    @landrymutombo8402 Рік тому

    One of my all time favorite films. I’ve seen it countless times.

  • @andrewofthebloodcrusaders7175

    As someone who grew up with this movie it was always on the top of my list

  • @iisanulquiorrahara8
    @iisanulquiorrahara8 Рік тому +1

    When I think of historical epics I love and can rewatch pretty much anytime, Troy definitely tops my own list, no matter what anyone says.

  • @WJstudios04
    @WJstudios04 Рік тому +1

    Best childhood movie

  • @xsithspawnx
    @xsithspawnx Рік тому

    Troy is actually one of my favorite movies and has been since it first came out. I'm a sucker for anything Greek history related, but in my opinion it still holds up really well.

  • @thedave3880
    @thedave3880 22 дні тому

    I would rewatch this masterpiece hundreds of times back in the day

  • @PhilipZeplinDK
    @PhilipZeplinDK Рік тому +1

    Your entire intro is wrong, which makes the entire video wrong. Just because Troy somehow flies under the radar for you, doesn't mean that's particularly normal. If you wanted to make that point, maybe mention Alexander instead, which was also an absolutely epic movie, which actually DOES seem to have been completely forgotten. Troy is very well known, and this is kind of a weird point to try and make...
    Also the comments making it seem way older than it is, "I had this on VHS!" - ok, but this came out in 2004, DVD's were perfectly normal and common by then. So... huh?

  • @sd659
    @sd659 Рік тому +2

    People can say whatever they want about this movie, and sure there are a lot of historical mistakes, but I love this movie and I will never get tired of seeing it!

    • @JK-vc7ie
      @JK-vc7ie Рік тому

      “Historical mistakes”? This is based on fiction, not non-fiction. It’s all made up for the most part. Even Homer.

    • @sd659
      @sd659 Рік тому +1

      @@JK-vc7ie Sorry I meant to say close to the source material

    • @JK-vc7ie
      @JK-vc7ie Рік тому

      @@sd659 Fair enough

  • @DanCummins
    @DanCummins Рік тому +1

    What really sets this movie apart from almost all others in the 'historical epic' genre is how it's not a simple good guys vs bad guys story. Years before Game of Thrones became a thing, this movie filled both sides of the conflict with honorable men and villains, cunning warriors and also fools - giving the story a sense of tragedy and pathos that is unusual in these types of movies. The audience roots for individual characters, but not necessarily the specific cause they fight for. It's a very modern view of warfare compared to the more traditional us vs them perspective one might see if this movie was made in a different decade. Coincidence that the 2000's were a time where many in the west were grappling with complicated narratives surrounding the motives of war and the ultimate cost? Doubtful that Petersen and Co intended it to be some kind of commentary, but viewing the movie in that historical context gives some interesting depth.

    • @ἸλιάςὈδύσσεια
      @ἸλιάςὈδύσσεια Рік тому

      It's just a stupid and anachronistic film. Hollywood is its bad films that ruin great classics

    • @BeachandHills-hb2pq
      @BeachandHills-hb2pq Рік тому

      Hi the difference is found in the Illiad itself. This refection of real life and the mix of charachters is one of the reasons it is a classic. Achilles and Paris are both heros but on opposite sides, The Virtues they have are also not the same. As for modern storys most have problems trying to match this epic. Anyway heros do exsist but so do the villians, cunning warriors and fools like you said. Some ancient cultures even used the Illiad as a moral guide. Im still amazed they found Troys ruins, one of the worlds most powerful nations of the bronze age. edit typos.

  • @SjWhit
    @SjWhit Рік тому +1

    I love Troy. I still rewatch is consistently.