Why do these things need a bicycle wheel sensor when they are already GPS? It would blow a hole in the market if you could use this on anything, anywhere.
The backlight is not always on. It depends on GPS position and solar calendar (?). It's on since around 1 hour after civil dawn, yet I don't when it goes off. And it works like that since at least firmware 1.20. As for overall, the M1 works fine for me, but I haven't found a way to reset odometer without resetting the device.
Love your content, I started riding again in August 2020, after not riding for ~10yrs (Broken frame - Rear spoke dragged the derailleur into the wheel, ripped it right off the frame with 15 km walk) inclusive of a back and hip injury, so pretty much starting from scratch again. I went with the Bryton Rider 15 series, unit itself is ~$90-110 AUD, sensor bundle is another $40-50 AUD. It does pretty much everything this unit does, the function output on display pages are editable to a degree (Positions are fixed in regards to where they can be displayed) Text is quite visible and it syncs fairly quickly with sensors (ANT + BT) Paired with a cheap ~$80 AUD phone to allow for GPS Connectivity it is more than good enough for what I desire, which is speed (km/h, average) distance and cadence, Altitude gain, gradient output, etc is a pure bonus for me. Only minor issues for me, update on data display is slower than what I would like though guessing the same for every unit that is wireless out there as well as the speed sensor icon on display constantly flickering as if it is trying to pair (Does not stop functionality of unit or sensor) lastly like all other units I guess sometimes minor screen glare/reflection at poor angles.
Probably good for people are beginners and use strava phone app to record their rides. It will save them their phone battery and they will be able to see enough data up front for an average rider. But yea, I would suggest most people to just put that $80 towards a $400 wahoo.
What if it's 33€ and not $80? It beats everything in market in €33 zone. 3sec smoothing bad? I refuse to believe tons of people are doing some crazy 10-15sec sprint drills
Thanks! Always look forward to your content! My wife wouldn't use 95% of a Garmin's capability but her simple Cateye has no capability. Do you know if you can manually enter an odometer reading when setting it up? Speed, mileages and HR are all she'd probably use. Stay safe and healthy!
You can fit to $80 with speed(from wheel), cadence(I think that's what you mean odometer) and heart rate sensors in Ali with this. It shows it on side.
I have one. Cheap Chinese device. Firmware and XOSS application are mediocre. The accuracy of the GPS positioning is not happy. One question, how to synchronize the clock with a smartphone? Currently, тhe clock in my M1 is inaccurate by a few minutes. How to adjust it with the XOSS application?
Don't count on the GPS. Mine works 80-90% of the time and always takes a few minutes to sync. Ambient temp always 6 degree F too high. Syncing with sensors is not perfect either.
How accurate a GPS sensor (without speed sensor)? And another question: what iz function "current ascent" ? If i made 3 Hills ( ascent and descent) in one ride - which data will be in that field? Sum of all 3 ascent or only the last one? Tnx for na answer in advance!
I may have a defective unit. I just did a 36-mile ride and the M1 reads under 32-miles. Yes, I wait for the GPS to find satellites before starting. Also the temperature reads 5°F higher than ambient air temperature.
Same to me. Did a ride of about 22 km, and the M1 marked 6 km. Gonna try interchanging the cadence and speed sensor and try again. Hope this works. I own a 29in wheeler, so I wrote 0740 in the C3 option (is it wrong?)
It would be great if you could get the Stages Dash head units (L10, M50, L50). The L10 is going for $75 USD right now and looks great for training with power if you don't need maps. I just ordered an M50 and hope it lives up to what I've read.
In some part of your video you had the DST and ODO in ft, and then in other part you had them in miles. How did you change the unit on ODO and DST data?
The weak point is the micro switches in the buttons, mine stopped working after less than a year. The aliexpess seller, the official Cycplus store, does not respect the guarantee and offers a refund of 5 USD
ye, how is it compared to the c406? Does the M1 show you the Power in case of no sensor? the c406 calculates by GPS+weight+HR etc. Does M1 show power by GPS?
I think it could work as a dashboard that will show your sensor data but I don't think it'll record because the autopause will think you aren't moving. Best to look elsewhere I reckon.
The temperature sensor doesn't work for me. Always it shows 0c or 32f. Also, I can sync data that are one day older. Anyone facing the same issues? Is there a way to fix the issue?
Bryton offers great GPS units and great prices. I bought my unit 4 years ago and it's still working great with 33 hours battery life. All of their units upload straight to Strava.
@@61tree_VR_Gliding which part you didint understand? You have to have some other device with NFC or Bluetooth that has the Strava app in best case or your manufacturer app that syncs it to Strava (through intermediary) however this cycplus has exactly that - you sync and it uploads to Strava automatically
@@888899999888 No, I send it from the device with wifi directly to my Bryton account and it's synced with Strava so it shows up there immediately. By the way, you are a bit on the rude side.
In My opinion Magene C406 is better. I consider to buy Magene. You can: switch autobacklight, there is tone when you start move, auto pause, you can personalize display.
and also many other features like: speed by GPS, power by GPS+HR+weight etc. You can add as many faces you want and play arround with the fields (it's 7 fields), but there are limitations per page too. Don't forget: c406 also has a Signal warning that you can put for HR threshold and Power threshold, very useful for HR :)))
Yes indeed! There's some big variances across the places that sell it at the moment. I saw it at $55 AUD from CYCPLUS's own store for Christmas sales but I usually stick with the RRP.
I have a question sir... If, in case, i connect the speed sensor to the M1, it won't calculate the speed from GPS right?... Then my question is when i finish the ride, does the M1 record the position and will it plot the route line that just finished?? Anyone is welcome to answer here. I once read from online someone said when his M1 paired with speed sensor but detached the magnet from the wheel, then the speed on M1 keep showing 0. So he could not record any session because the Time was frozen at 00:01 though he's moving (and GPS is connected all the time).
It costs 33€(bit over $40) in AliExpress, not $80. It is also very wrong review. The unit is not to be used without sensors - without sensors it's just useless piece of trash(you can buy GPS smartwatch and put on your bike handlebars). The main drawback is the download speed from the unit to phone - like if you can just leave it there and paste data it's ok, but 5hour rides took me 15-20minuted to upload. I rode all kind of weather and I don't frankly know what reflections the reviewer is talking about - it's perfect: led turns on on day, turns off at night to support you with visibility. The battery time is around 40hours(was able to survive full 7 days of bike packing with it) edit: however maybe the reviewer got different version of it, because I own two and one got tad bit different labelling on it
It looks like there's some ecosystem going on with Meilan, Xoss, and Cycplus maybe sharing assets. They have a similar design language across them and all seem to run through the central Xoss app.
I got a unit and realised it was super huge. The screen is way too big unless you have eyesight problems. The computer is a tank and weights a ton. Super thick, not aero at all.
I got it today for 19$, and I'm impressed with this quality and functionality at this orice point.
Yo where did you get it for that cheap? Mind sharing?
4:02 also if you own a powermeter you can probably splash out on a more expensive head unit.
another great review!
Cheers dude!
Why do these things need a bicycle wheel sensor when they are already GPS? It would blow a hole in the market if you could use this on anything, anywhere.
This GPS is highly unreliable on this unit.
GPS accuracy is topography dependent. That does apply to any GPS receiver. Sensor is of course way more accurate
Thanks for the advice. I’m looking to purchase something and your vid had helped me narrow the field. 😎
Thanks for your Extra info about this topics
The backlight is not always on. It depends on GPS position and solar calendar (?). It's on since around 1 hour after civil dawn, yet I don't when it goes off. And it works like that since at least firmware 1.20.
As for overall, the M1 works fine for me, but I haven't found a way to reset odometer without resetting the device.
Thanks! Great review
Love your content,
I started riding again in August 2020, after not riding for ~10yrs (Broken frame - Rear spoke dragged the derailleur into the wheel, ripped it right off the frame with 15 km walk) inclusive of a back and hip injury, so pretty much starting from scratch again.
I went with the Bryton Rider 15 series, unit itself is ~$90-110 AUD, sensor bundle is another $40-50 AUD. It does pretty much everything this unit does, the function output on display pages are editable to a degree (Positions are fixed in regards to where they can be displayed) Text is quite visible and it syncs fairly quickly with sensors (ANT + BT)
Paired with a cheap ~$80 AUD phone to allow for GPS Connectivity it is more than good enough for what I desire, which is speed (km/h, average) distance and cadence, Altitude gain, gradient output, etc is a pure bonus for me.
Only minor issues for me, update on data display is slower than what I would like though guessing the same for every unit that is wireless out there as well as the speed sensor icon on display constantly flickering as if it is trying to pair (Does not stop functionality of unit or sensor) lastly like all other units I guess sometimes minor screen glare/reflection at poor angles.
I have been using my Samsung galaxy watch but I was thinking about buying one of these
Probably good for people are beginners and use strava phone app to record their rides. It will save them their phone battery and they will be able to see enough data up front for an average rider. But yea, I would suggest most people to just put that $80 towards a $400 wahoo.
What if it's 33€ and not $80? It beats everything in market in €33 zone. 3sec smoothing bad? I refuse to believe tons of people are doing some crazy 10-15sec sprint drills
Thanks! Always look forward to your content! My wife wouldn't use 95% of a Garmin's capability but her simple Cateye has no capability. Do you know if you can manually enter an odometer reading when setting it up? Speed, mileages and HR are all she'd probably use. Stay safe and healthy!
You can fit to $80 with speed(from wheel), cadence(I think that's what you mean odometer) and heart rate sensors in Ali with this. It shows it on side.
I have one. Cheap Chinese device. Firmware and XOSS application are mediocre. The accuracy of the GPS positioning is not happy. One question, how to synchronize the clock with a smartphone? Currently, тhe clock in my M1 is inaccurate by a few minutes. How to adjust it with the XOSS application?
Nice review, thanks a lot
Don't count on the GPS. Mine works 80-90% of the time and always takes a few minutes to sync. Ambient temp always 6 degree F too high. Syncing with sensors is not perfect either.
How accurate a GPS sensor (without speed sensor)? And another question: what iz function "current ascent" ? If i made 3 Hills ( ascent and descent) in one ride - which data will be in that field? Sum of all 3 ascent or only the last one?
Tnx for na answer in advance!
Terrible. Off by 1km for every 5km
Hey, computer M2 i'ts on sale with C3 2 sensor for cadence/speed and H1 heartbeat sensor for about 60$
i have it and its simple i am happy
The use of the XOSS app makes me think it’s some kind of ODM situation.
And I guess Betteridge’s Law applies?
Hey! Don't be Betteridge bombing me! I think the answer is yes.
I may have a defective unit. I just did a 36-mile ride and the M1 reads under 32-miles. Yes, I wait for the GPS to find satellites before starting. Also the temperature reads 5°F higher than ambient air temperature.
Same to me. Did a ride of about 22 km, and the M1 marked 6 km. Gonna try interchanging the cadence and speed sensor and try again. Hope this works. I own a 29in wheeler, so I wrote 0740 in the C3 option (is it wrong?)
It would be great if you could get the Stages Dash head units (L10, M50, L50). The L10 is going for $75 USD right now and looks great for training with power if you don't need maps. I just ordered an M50 and hope it lives up to what I've read.
Dude, without GPS how did it connect to your smartphone? It does have Bluetooth.
Do you still recomend it,is there any other aftermarket i find xoss g+ and cospoo
In some part of your video you had the DST and ODO in ft, and then in other part you had them in miles. How did you change the unit on ODO and DST data?
The weak point is the micro switches in the buttons, mine stopped working after less than a year. The aliexpess seller, the official Cycplus store, does not respect the guarantee and offers a refund of 5 USD
But where are the GPS maps ? And do they take radar ?
got mine yesterday 😅
No support for Bluetooth is a deal breaker
Its shit if you do more than 1000 watts since it only display 3 digit numbers!
What do you think about Magene C406?
ye, how is it compared to the c406? Does the M1 show you the Power in case of no sensor? the c406 calculates by GPS+weight+HR etc. Does M1 show power by GPS?
Hi, does anyone know how to reset the odometer or return the GPS to the factory configuration?
Thanks
Coospo b200 is much better for around the same price plus uses xoss app to
Can someone explain to me, how i can save my ride data or sync it on my phone with this computer?
xoss uploads to Strava
Thanks for video I have the same bike computer but I couldn't find powermeter.Please help me about it.I want to buy it.
Look up the manual, you can pair all ANT+ sensors(including powermeter) in the C2 setting
Hello! Is it suitable for indoors training on the trainer? Thanks in advance.
I think it could work as a dashboard that will show your sensor data but I don't think it'll record because the autopause will think you aren't moving. Best to look elsewhere I reckon.
The temperature sensor doesn't work for me. Always it shows 0c or 32f. Also, I can sync data that are one day older. Anyone facing the same issues? Is there a way to fix the issue?
do I always have to be connected to the phone while driving, to have data on the phone and forward it to Strava?
no, only for uploading
Bryton offers great GPS units and great prices. I bought my unit 4 years ago and it's still working great with 33 hours battery life. All of their units upload straight to Strava.
I bought the 450 with hrm at 140 euros. A steal!
Lies. Your head unit does not have a sim card or WiFi connectivity and Strava app.
@@888899999888 huh?
@@61tree_VR_Gliding which part you didint understand? You have to have some other device with NFC or Bluetooth that has the Strava app in best case or your manufacturer app that syncs it to Strava (through intermediary) however this cycplus has exactly that - you sync and it uploads to Strava automatically
@@888899999888 No, I send it from the device with wifi directly to my Bryton account and it's synced with Strava so it shows up there immediately. By the way, you are a bit on the rude side.
Hi 🙋♂️ Thanks for great review 👍 It would be awesome if you could review also the new Aerothan made by Schwalbe 🥺🥺🥺
is this better than magene c406?
In My opinion Magene C406 is better. I consider to buy Magene. You can: switch autobacklight, there is tone when you start move, auto pause, you can personalize display.
and also many other features like: speed by GPS, power by GPS+HR+weight etc. You can add as many faces you want and play arround with the fields (it's 7 fields), but there are limitations per page too. Don't forget: c406 also has a Signal warning that you can put for HR threshold and Power threshold, very useful for HR :)))
Got your hands on a bryton 750 yet?
Very late reply.... But one just hit my doorstep last week!
@@JustRideAdelaide looking forward to your thoughts about it
Does the device auto pause?
nope
Very persistance review.. thanks a lot, i am goin to get the unit..
new version C8 - total odometer
The Magene C406 is much better and a lot more feature rich. for a bit cheaper.
Can it say mph
There is no spare parts available and no customer support.
Its 30 euro on aliexpress
I’m guessing that is $80 AUS. It is only $49 US.
Yes indeed! There's some big variances across the places that sell it at the moment. I saw it at $55 AUD from CYCPLUS's own store for Christmas sales but I usually stick with the RRP.
My phone doesn't support Ant+, so too bad for me.
ANT+ for sensors, BLE 4.0 for phone connectivity
First comment, :). Now to navigate out of here.
Sorry dude, the Cycplus doesn't have maps so this is your home now!
Just bought for $55
I have a question sir... If, in case, i connect the speed sensor to the M1, it won't calculate the speed from GPS right?... Then my question is when i finish the ride, does the M1 record the position and will it plot the route line that just finished??
Anyone is welcome to answer here.
I once read from online someone said when his M1 paired with speed sensor but detached the magnet from the wheel, then the speed on M1 keep showing 0. So he could not record any session because the Time was frozen at 00:01 though he's moving (and GPS is connected all the time).
It costs 33€(bit over $40) in AliExpress, not $80. It is also very wrong review. The unit is not to be used without sensors - without sensors it's just useless piece of trash(you can buy GPS smartwatch and put on your bike handlebars). The main drawback is the download speed from the unit to phone - like if you can just leave it there and paste data it's ok, but 5hour rides took me 15-20minuted to upload. I rode all kind of weather and I don't frankly know what reflections the reviewer is talking about - it's perfect: led turns on on day, turns off at night to support you with visibility. The battery time is around 40hours(was able to survive full 7 days of bike packing with it) edit: however maybe the reviewer got different version of it, because I own two and one got tad bit different labelling on it
Just get Sigma Rox 4 instead.
Xoss is the a producer of sensors and has also a cheap road computer... This is a compatible device
I thought Xoss made bike computers themselves, like the G+
It looks like there's some ecosystem going on with Meilan, Xoss, and Cycplus maybe sharing assets. They have a similar design language across them and all seem to run through the central Xoss app.
@@JustRideAdelaide ah I see. Coospo apperently too.
So does it GPS?
I got a unit and realised it was super huge.
The screen is way too big unless you have eyesight problems. The computer is a tank and weights a ton. Super thick, not aero at all.
U want to resell it?
This looks like an exact ripoff the Meilan M1
Yes, obviously, Meilan and Cyclplus aren't any real brands. This device is noname, made somewhere in Shenzhen, China.
@@andronaline how about magene c406?
80$ for Cycplus m1 in 2020? They ripped you off mate 😂
I didn't pay for it 🤣
@@JustRideAdelaide hehe I paid for it now ~$20. Hope is worth it 😁
Bitch I’m *poor*
She’ll be right
unbelievable bargain com pared to a garmin,,,,who would ever spend 400 when these are 45??????????????/ chinese kickin our asses,,,yet again
Does it has a auto-pause function?