What would be nice to see more of are practitioners exploring the practical inside fighting applications inherent this pattern. I know they are in there now that I’m revisiting these patterns after years away from TKD focusing on the Okinawan arts (I assistant teach the kids at an ITF TKD school, still regularly train with my Sensei in Okinawa Kenpo as well as head my own group for adults) where it’s plainly obvious to see that Po Eun is derived from Naihanchi kata. Naihanchi is brutally simple in execution much like this pattern, but after many hours of exploring one will find it is really the only kata you need for virtually any and all fighting applications, from striking to grappling, takedowns, etc.
@@aina-nafisah1289 yes that has been told to me before but the sine wave demonstrates confusion of body movement. Explained: my mind wants to attack directly ( fastest and simplest way to attack is a direct line of movement). However the sine wave is an up and down and then forward movement of attack. Appears to me to be a waste of energy and time.
The up-down "sine-wave" movement is not consistent among Tae Kwon Do practicers or schools. While those who practice this "sine-wave" style feel that it allows the use of body mass and movement for power, those from more traditional schools or karate background argue that the technique causes unbalance and leaves vulnerabilities for attack.
@@kellylyon9174 It comes from Choi´s intention of explanation of the moves from basic physical laws. Especially this comes from the 2nd Newton´s law of force F=m*a. You end each technique in the lowest point of sine wave where you have the highest acceleration. It is fascinating how Taekwon-do is thoughtful and effective. Cheers...!
@barrysmith9407 if you are training ITF Taekwon-Do, you are doing it incorrectly. Also, it is poor etiquette to identify what rank you are as a way of telling others their technique is wrong.
@@CalebClark Yeah I knew he was an international instructor because of the black lines going down the sleeves and pants, but it took me a while to look at the numbers Ron his belt. Thanks anyways.
Overall I thought the form was performed well. I do not think there is economy of movement with the bouncy bouncy sing song characteristic of some Taekwondo poomse. It looks amateurish. That being said, it seems to have more focus and power than most tae kwon do forms being done today.
Yeah this is performed to the exact specifications of what the ITF judge forms by, but that criteria is deliberately moving away from good martial arts just to be different. Basically the problem with all Taekwondo now: different styles trying to be different for the sake of it and the Olympic scoring criteria
I'm a WT practitioner, on the other end of the Taekwondo spectrum. Just started learning ITF forms to broaden my understanding of poomsae. I agree, I can't stand the bouncing characteristic of these forms. I don't see any practical application for it. If they would remove it and just stick to good strong stances, they would arguably be better than their WT counterparts.
@@MKillBill I graded to 1st dan with an independent organisation which did "old style" ITF (waist twist, pre- sine-wave), so it is certainly possible. I had a problem moving to Kukki in that the coloured belt patterns didn't feel as if they had as much power. One day our coach showed us the old-style Kukkiwon taeguk, more karate based. We were shattered. Fewer kicks but a lot more power.
One of the most beautiful forms, flawlessly executed.
i havent been in taekwondo classes in a long time but, i still remember this one pattern
Es increíble ver cómo este maestro hace las formas. Es genial. Thanks for sharing 🤘🤘
Probably my favorite form I know. The moves are so oddly fun to do.
What would be nice to see more of are practitioners exploring the practical inside fighting applications inherent this pattern. I know they are in there now that I’m revisiting these patterns after years away from TKD focusing on the Okinawan arts (I assistant teach the kids at an ITF TKD school, still regularly train with my Sensei in Okinawa Kenpo as well as head my own group for adults) where it’s plainly obvious to see that Po Eun is derived from Naihanchi kata. Naihanchi is brutally simple in execution much like this pattern, but after many hours of exploring one will find it is really the only kata you need for virtually any and all fighting applications, from striking to grappling, takedowns, etc.
I like it. Very nice. Almost hit perfection. Almost. Hehe
The coordination for the quick movements after the knife hand strike is really tricky to get perfect. Well done thanks this was a great help
Great
Everyone’s favourite pattern 😊
i always struggled with this one
For a Black Belt form this seems somewhat simplistic. Never understood the need for the sine-wave movement.
The purpose of sine-wave is so that you're able to get the exploding action.
@@aina-nafisah1289 yes that has been told to me before but the sine wave demonstrates confusion of body movement. Explained: my mind wants to attack directly ( fastest and simplest way to attack is a direct line of movement). However the sine wave is an up and down and then forward movement of attack. Appears to me to be a waste of energy and time.
The up-down "sine-wave" movement is not consistent among Tae Kwon Do practicers or schools. While those who practice this "sine-wave" style feel that it allows the use of body mass and movement for power, those from more traditional schools or karate background argue that the technique causes unbalance and leaves vulnerabilities for attack.
@@kellylyon9174 it momentarily increases your weight downwards. So your 'planted'. Can increase weight up to 1.5x I've heard.
@@kellylyon9174 It comes from Choi´s intention of explanation of the moves from basic physical laws. Especially this comes from the 2nd Newton´s law of force F=m*a. You end each technique in the lowest point of sine wave where you have the highest acceleration. It is fascinating how Taekwon-do is thoughtful and effective. Cheers...!
I am 5th degree Taekondo Instructor. In my style students are taught keep head at one level. Do not bounce. Ever
@barrysmith9407 if you are training ITF Taekwon-Do, you are doing it incorrectly.
Also, it is poor etiquette to identify what rank you are as a way of telling others their technique is wrong.
At the tournaments me and my students compete at, nobody bounces when they do their katas. No one.
@@barrysmith9407 As a 5th dan instructor, you should know that Kata is a reference for karate, not Taekwon-Do.
What dan is he?
Dan? 1
4
The pattern is 1st Dan. The practitioner would have to be at least 4 to have the black strip down their leg and arm on the uniform.
@@CalebClark Yeah I knew he was an international instructor because of the black lines going down the sleeves and pants, but it took me a while to look at the numbers Ron his belt. Thanks anyways.
Overall I thought the form was performed well. I do not think there is economy of movement with the bouncy bouncy sing song characteristic of some Taekwondo poomse. It looks amateurish. That being said, it seems to have more focus and power than most tae kwon do forms being done today.
Yeah this is performed to the exact specifications of what the ITF judge forms by, but that criteria is deliberately moving away from good martial arts just to be different. Basically the problem with all Taekwondo now: different styles trying to be different for the sake of it and the Olympic scoring criteria
I'm a WT practitioner, on the other end of the Taekwondo spectrum. Just started learning ITF forms to broaden my understanding of poomsae. I agree, I can't stand the bouncing characteristic of these forms. I don't see any practical application for it. If they would remove it and just stick to good strong stances, they would arguably be better than their WT counterparts.
@@MKillBill I graded to 1st dan with an independent organisation which did "old style" ITF (waist twist, pre- sine-wave), so it is certainly possible. I had a problem moving to Kukki in that the coloured belt patterns didn't feel as if they had as much power. One day our coach showed us the old-style Kukkiwon taeguk, more karate based. We were shattered. Fewer kicks but a lot more power.
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