The Jim Wagner Knife Disarm Rule for Police & Military

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  • @seclista
    @seclista 8 років тому +48

    "To be a Master , you have to be a master of the BASICS"
    This is the best disarm video I had ever seen
    so realistic

  • @dannylane1349
    @dannylane1349 8 років тому +42

    As a retired cop, Marine and Martial Arts Instructor I enjoyed the reality of Jim's approach to teaching knife defense. This is some great instruction and after 48 years of doing defenses I am always looking for better ways to teach and learn. Thanks Jim for the clips and I look forward to more.

    • @rontedee8059
      @rontedee8059 5 років тому

      Interesting. Do you suppose a boxing stance is most practical for knife defense? Less surface area for the neck, face, and torso to be targeted if I stay super tight? Only thing I can conceive doing if I'm being peppered is covering my vitals and stomping his knees to dust. Maybe if I'm lucky get an armdrag position established for a trip.

    • @bdhtubal
      @bdhtubal 4 роки тому +1

      Simultaneous block & hits, open finger strike to eyes & kick groin & lower leg kick, it stops UFC fighters. Train your kicking it has longer range, your fast side or front kick could reach & STRIKE FIRST the attacker.

    • @bdhtubal
      @bdhtubal Рік тому

      @Pat Luxor haven't you see mma & full contact fighters stopped in pain if finger poked in the eye or writhing & crawling in pain when hit in the crotch even with groin guard protection. Unless castrated 😁or got no balls. ✌🏼

  • @christophermetz1550
    @christophermetz1550 10 років тому +7

    I love training knife disarms in Kali. Probably one of my favorite things actually because it's fast, never the same twice, and you learn real quick that in real life you will almost always get cut. My instructor teaches the same concepts you have here. Escape is the ultimate goal. Great video.

  • @tinmvn
    @tinmvn 8 років тому +77

    "Grab, close, takedown, escape." Not: "try to look like a badass from an action movie and get yourself killed."

    • @cavebeastdemon3631
      @cavebeastdemon3631 5 років тому +2

      "Grab, close, takedown, escape"... I have done it on the street! If you are not a "badass" it won't work! If you train properly and can learn to be calm in stressful situations it WILL work! If you learn Taekwondo at the strip mall, chances are you will not learn to practice properly or have an understanding of the principles of learning martial arts. That is why people say "this stuff don't work"! That is the only way I can explain it in a comment section.

  • @L3uX
    @L3uX 9 років тому +20

    This is one of the most practical and real videos I've seen. Clear, simple, and straight to the point, which is absolute king in any kind of fight training and from what I've personally been in and seen pretty much backs up this. You wont have much or any time for that matter to do a fancy cross guard, your body and reactions will automatically revert to the fastest reaction and instinct possible which is what this kind of training supplements at the fundamental level.
    Also, a lot of people don't realize, when up against a double edge knife, you better goddamn grab onto that arm strong and don't let go and get your execution/take down quick. Your assailant pulls and frees his/her arm (whether tripping falling back, intentional, accidental, etc) while you're pinning it against arm, armpit, neck, mids, etc, you will get a seriously nasty cut on the way out and possibly putting you. Super important to realize that real knife/weapon fights aren't so smooth like other training videos.

  • @calebbarrett7706
    @calebbarrett7706 5 років тому +2

    The Instructor is definitely a Master and knows the basics well. If one doesn’t know the basics, it is just impossible to execute those defensive maneuvers. The reality of a knife attack is scary, brutal and fast but a well trained individual has a better chance to survive. Thanks for sharing this video.

  • @jackmcdouglas4126
    @jackmcdouglas4126 9 років тому +18

    Real life stuff is what matters, anything else is just a beautifully choreographilly ballet. Beauty won't save one's life. Hats off

    • @IAP_mkt
      @IAP_mkt 4 роки тому

      but beauty will save the world my friend

  • @riclaming
    @riclaming 5 років тому +3

    This is exactly what I have been searching for ever since. No fancy moves, just getting at each other because that is what it is in a real knife fight. As a fellow with the same uniform, this really helps me internalize the skill set rather than me always thinking of just pulling the trigger (if i ever get lucky of pulling my gun out) Thank you very, very much Officer Wagner.

    • @jimwagnerrbpp
      @jimwagnerrbpp  2 роки тому +2

      Ricardo, you are very welcome. Keep training realistically. BE A HARD TARGET

  • @yukafidah1
    @yukafidah1 11 років тому +4

    I'm a Security Officer. We traditionally dont have backup. If I'm ever in a situation like this, I will use these valuable lessons. Thank you.

  • @quickpickle
    @quickpickle 7 років тому +1

    This is probably the most accurate knife defense videos out there.

  • @joopsnoop
    @joopsnoop 10 років тому +49

    Reality sucks. This is a great eye opener. Should be required watching for every martial arts instructor in the world who teaches anything to do with self defense.

    • @jimwagnerrbpp
      @jimwagnerrbpp  10 років тому +13

      I appreciate your comment. Thank you. Be A Hard Target.

    • @KJ4RKB
      @KJ4RKB 10 років тому +8

      Jim Wagner excellent tutorial. In the Army they teach this. We are to separate ourselves so we can use our primary weapon.

    • @dabunnyrabbit2620
      @dabunnyrabbit2620 6 років тому

      100%

    • @willymaru3569
      @willymaru3569 6 років тому +1

      @@WildBillJP if you disagree with what you see please enlighten us with your alternative moves!!!

    • @WildBillJP
      @WildBillJP 6 років тому

      Willy Maru sorry but you’re not going to be disarming an enraged and vicious attacker who is violently wielding a razor sharp knife during a brutal and all-out chaotic assault. Funny that this needs to be said

  • @chrisbaldwin3148
    @chrisbaldwin3148 5 років тому +1

    I'm a 30-year vet corrections officer who has spent a great deal of time developing a personal knife defense strategy. This video makes some good points about defending against the worst case scenario- when you are backed tightly into a corner with no space to move. One element that you didn't address is the attacker's ability to grab and anchor to you with his free (leveraging) arm to stab you. Also, I think better strategies are possible if you have a slight amount of space in which to move. Thank you, Sgt., for taking the time to make a thought-provoking video.

  • @MelFinehout
    @MelFinehout 8 років тому +3

    I have watched at least 20 "knife disarm" videos. This is the first one I think is worthwhile. Every other one I always think "good luck with that!".
    I am going to train this. Thanks.

  • @heyokah
    @heyokah 8 років тому +3

    One of the better vids in regards to this topic. Nothing scripted, it shows potential flaws, and most importantly is emphasizes the need to close and escape. Grabbing is a natural reaction but Mr. Wagner explains that you can and most likely WILL be cut.
    The take down is important, although most will not be able to take down an attacker who means to do them bodily harm, but the emphasis on the escape is paramount.
    Controlling the weapon arm, thus controlling the body is effective but using the natural instincts of everyone (to grab) is what makes this work. Why attempt to retrain your instinct, mind, and reflex when you can utilize simple techniques that take advantage of them?
    Kudos to you Mr. Wagner.

  • @joshuaderstine6934
    @joshuaderstine6934 10 років тому +15

    The damage that grown men can inflict on each other is mind blowing. The only defense is to avoid a conflict. We are very vulnerable.

    • @nikolaivolkov8660
      @nikolaivolkov8660 8 років тому +8

      +Joshua derstine Pacifism won't help when your assailant is standing in front of you. Those of us who teach do not condone or encourage violence. I assure you it's quite the opposite. We teach what we do for if/when the time comes when you have to defend your life, or that of a loved one.
      We don't like hurting people, we do not enjoy it. In fact, a true judge of Martial skill would be to neutralize the threat without injury. I haven't gotten to that point yet, as most people haven't, so when it comes down to you or them; or worse, them or a loved one the choice is clear.

    • @zactolan561
      @zactolan561 7 років тому +1

      Very Smart.

    • @pet3r387
      @pet3r387 5 років тому +3

      Nikolai Volkov He means that if you can get away, then get away. Obviously if you have to engage in this then that’s your last resort and you are in deep shit.

    • @mrpush2855
      @mrpush2855 3 роки тому

      @@pet3r387 Yes this is true. But what if you are confronted as you leave a bathroom stall, and as they trained in the video "in a corner". Does this mean that you will NEVER use a bathroom stall ever again as part of your avoidance? that you will ake sure you never end up in a space with only one exit? Or will you just stay home locked in your room? That is absurd. This is very practical advice here.
      Yes, the outlook is not a very good one if this happens to you.
      But are you going to try to fight for your life if this DOES happen to you?
      You can try to avoid the things I mentioned above your entire life and live in fear, or you can accept that if you find yourself STUCK IN THIS SITUATION, you have a chance to get out of it alive if you know what to do.

  • @winterramos4527
    @winterramos4527 5 років тому +3

    I love this 1987 VHS quality.

  • @roberts7171
    @roberts7171 11 років тому

    This is the reality of a knife disarm. Bravo sir. I am so tired of people showing complex and fancy martial arts moves that will get you hurt bad in a real situation. Nice work.

  • @trevorcarterva
    @trevorcarterva 7 років тому +6

    This is the most logical approach to defending knife attacks. I

  • @jimwagnerrbpp
    @jimwagnerrbpp  11 років тому +46

    Fletch F., yes, a SWAT uniform. Haven't you ever heard of the phrase, "Train how you fight."

    • @iSPELLinAMERICAN
      @iSPELLinAMERICAN 9 років тому +1

      ***** I also do not have real knife fighting experience, however, in training it is unnatural and unorthodox to turn your arms over. remember he is talking about split second reaction. your instincts are to just reach out palms and underarm facing down. also I just simulated a couple "hairy side down" techniques and it makes it hard to do a grab or follow on techniques.

    • @iSPELLinAMERICAN
      @iSPELLinAMERICAN 9 років тому

      ***** didn't mean to respond with just critism, I do understand what you are saying and it was a good observation. it makes sense what you are saying. its just not natural I don't think

    • @michaelmottonen3044
      @michaelmottonen3044 9 років тому +1

      ***** I had an instructor that taught to block with the outside of the arm in this sort of situation, but the problem I found with it is that what you have to do following that block is typically too much of a complex movement. It was even challenging at half speed sometimes to follow that block practicing with knives or in any situation where you are trying to trap the arm. It will work if you get the timing and coordination right but I wouldn't count on it in the real thing

    • @michaelmottonen3044
      @michaelmottonen3044 9 років тому +1

      If you have your own knife, though, a hard block with the hairy side immediately followed by a cut to the arm holding his knife is something I've seen a lot of and seemed to be a good option when I was practicing with wooden knives

    • @tdrproductions
      @tdrproductions 8 років тому +1

      i've heard this is a common technique in prison shiv fighting. The forearm can act as a shield and block vital organs as well as provide an opportunity to counter

  • @imstupid880
    @imstupid880 8 років тому +26

    Long story short: never go outside.

  • @Christian_Prepper
    @Christian_Prepper 7 років тому +3

    *OPTION 3 & 4*
    8:19 A third option to be aware of is he uses his other hand to pull a second weapon, & a fourth option is his friend(s) join in.

  • @wiki2245
    @wiki2245 8 років тому +6

    I do Taekwondo and in reality we get taught what COULD happen and in what way the person MIGHT attack you. We do knife self defence quite a bit, it serious but its also fun to learn. This video also helped me a lot thanks! :)

  • @jimwagnerrbpp
    @jimwagnerrbpp  11 років тому +3

    dylanharold1, thank you for your testimonial. I thank God that you survived your knife attack, and I am happy to hear that you learned something from my Knife Disarm Rule for Police & Military. Continue to "Be A Hard Target."

  • @kendog1234
    @kendog1234 11 років тому

    wow this is way better than any other vid because basically he telling us wat to do after any strike on any part of ur body thats real smart

  • @jimwagnerrbpp
    @jimwagnerrbpp  11 років тому +2

    Mark Cousin, I really appreciate your feedback on my video. I'm glad you are going to use my system. Be A Hard Target.

  • @zstick
    @zstick 9 років тому +7

    EXCELLENT video. It's hard for some martial arts masters to admit that they might not perform perfectly, which is (I think) why they avoid full-speed drills like this. They don't want to be seen missing a block or anything. We need more full-speed drills like this. All the slow stuff is SUPPOSED to be just a preparation for full-speed, but too many people get caught up in these sweet looking wrist-locks, arm locks, pressure points, disarms, etc. and they never take those moves into a full-speed test.
    Again, just excellent. Please keep these videos coming.

    • @nikolaivolkov8660
      @nikolaivolkov8660 8 років тому +1

      +Shrigis I can see that being true of many, but when I teach, I use half speed/full contact or half speed/half contact for training because it's better to get the basics perfect. Slower speeds allow you to more easily feel the proper form so you can maximize your energy transfer to target.
      Safety is a large part of it of course, but I find the slower speeds to make big difference in the retention of necessary skills for later development. Everyone needs a foundation from which to build.

    • @zstick
      @zstick 8 років тому +1

      Nikolai Volkov So at what point do you transition from half-speed to full-speed? I'm all for building foundations through slow, methodical repetition to program muscle memory, but at some point you have to move on to full-speed training otherwise you're falling short of your goal, don't you agree?

    • @nikolaivolkov8660
      @nikolaivolkov8660 8 років тому +1

      Shrigis Absolutely. Full speed/full contact sparring is not only essential to reach the desired mindset that I'm trying to cultivate, but it also feeds into the stress drills that I use. It also doesn't hurt that some techniques require the momentum generated from full speed forms; but I reserve these classes for those that have proven to have self restraint.
      While I will always encourage those I teach to never limit themselves, I can't have inexperienced martial artists flailing around, much less with weapons lol
      The speed of training increases as their experience does, as you said. Anything less I feel is not doing the respective system justice.

    • @zstick
      @zstick 8 років тому +2

      Nikolai Volkov Well said. My experience in martial arts isn't nearly as extensive as yours (based on your comments), but the same principles apply for almost any skill that has to do with muscle memory. Musical instruments, touch-typing, driving, gymnastics, firearms training, etc. all share the principle I was taught as a kid... slow makes fast.
      I just get frustrated when I see teachers who don't ever progress to the full-speed/full-contact drills at all because they're leaving their students woefully unprepared for anything but the kata needed for their next belt (or whatever that discipline uses to progress). Forms won't do you any good in a fight except as the basis for all the other training. Slow makes fast, but you have to eventually get to the fast!
      Anyway, thanks for clarifying your standpoint for me. I think we're on the same page.

    • @nikolaivolkov8660
      @nikolaivolkov8660 8 років тому +1

      Anytime brother.
      While here, I'll gripe a bit; "they're leaving their students woefully unprepared for anything but the kata needed for their next belt."
      That right there is a huge problem in the industry, and while it's likely simpler (Like greed) I think most Instructors *did* initially have the drive. The passion.
      But as sometimes happens with static or "set" drills/classes, it starts to seem more like a job than a career, and the passion dwindles out. Or if the monotonous routine doesn't bore the passion away, the often lose the time or desire to further their own progress.
      Either way, I think these are very common routes to the same destination: "The Next Belt," and that's never where I want to be.

  • @1Blkkato
    @1Blkkato 8 років тому +1

    I watch a lot of knife disarm videos [I'm an exp knife fighter] and I always see these useless videos on how to defend against a knife attack. Your video by far is the most realistic and best examples on how you should conduct yourself that I've seen. Keep up the good work.

    • @gerryseymour
      @gerryseymour 8 років тому

      +1Blkkato A good video, though the attack used at the beginning isn't realistic, at all. The attacker is snatching away, rather than driving in. It's more of a dodge than a stab. Still, I think if anything it makes the simulated attack harder to reach, so is a useful training tool. I'd just want to also work with a hard-driving stab, which probably means using a softer weapon to avoid actual injury.

  • @kduffin33
    @kduffin33 11 років тому +10

    one of the best knife defense vids I've seen

    • @jimwagnerrbpp
      @jimwagnerrbpp  10 років тому +1

      Thanks kduffin33. I appreciate the feedback. Be A Hard Target.

  • @gurungpatrick373
    @gurungpatrick373 9 років тому +2

    Because of you sir i have improved my defenses mentally and physically,
    Great great video thank you very much.

  • @Paul-gb7jv
    @Paul-gb7jv 4 роки тому

    best knife fighting video I have ever seen. The close take down ...... escape...... is so logical, so good. Thank you

    • @jimwagnerrbpp
      @jimwagnerrbpp  2 роки тому

      Paul, I'm glad you think so. BE A HARD TARGET

  • @carlosgibb
    @carlosgibb 9 років тому

    This is the best video on knife defence I've ever watched! Simple and realistic at the same time. Thank you and greetings from Brazil!!

  • @sylvesterstudmuffin
    @sylvesterstudmuffin 10 років тому +1

    I have been cut by knives fighters nine times, two extremely seriously, two millimetres away from ending my life. I survived, and gained control, using very similar techniques to those shown here. Fabio Taffy, Kali is a great art and masters of it are exceptional, but not everyone who attacks with a knife is a master. Knife against empty hand. Knife doesn't win everytime and I am living proof of it. Nice vid good advice.

  • @Multiplexization
    @Multiplexization 11 років тому

    moment. But just realize, if someone is reaching for his pocket (or back) on those moments it’s not for showing you his child’s pictures. I learned my lesson: in a discussion with me (which now I always try to avoid), no matter the level of violence up to that moment, if I see someone reaching for a pocket… that second shit is going his way.
    Jim, I’ve seen a couple of your videos, all I can say is: you are the very best of the best.

  • @justinquaid2610
    @justinquaid2610 7 місяців тому

    I've heard about you for many years Jim and I really enjoyed the video. I have been studying knife fighting for 30 years now which started with James Keating and then I continued my training with with the Pascua brothers from the Philippines and John McCurry from Long Beach. The only problem with knife fighters is that we are trained to take the limbs, hands, or fingers before we move into the torso or the head. I have tested knife disarms on martial artist with 40 to 50 years of martial arts experience from a knife fighters perspective on cutting the limbs before the body and everyone of the martial artist failed to get the disarm. Knife fighters think differently and we love when people try to disarm us because we are setting up the counter and then after that we go in for the kill.

    • @jimwagnerrbpp
      @jimwagnerrbpp  18 днів тому +1

      Thank you for your comment. You bring up some good points (no pun intended). You're so right. Disarming a knife fighter is next to impossible, and lots of realistic training with many different attackers is the only way to see what works for you and what doesn't. BE A HARD TARGET

  • @omgmrtea
    @omgmrtea Рік тому

    My Martial Arts teacher studied with Jim and then taught us his knife course - one of the best lessens i ever had.
    Anyone interested should learn it, it is by far the most realistic and gives you a decent chance of survival if trained well.

    • @jimwagnerrbpp
      @jimwagnerrbpp  Рік тому

      omgmrtea, thank you for your comment. I'm glad that my student, your teacher, passed on the KNIFE SURVIVAL techniques and tactics that I taught to you. BE A HARD TARGET Jim Wagner (in the martial arts community, your "Grand Master")

  • @TheJKDGuy
    @TheJKDGuy 2 роки тому

    One of the Best & Most Realistic videos on knife disarms out there worth watching ✔️

    • @jimwagnerrbpp
      @jimwagnerrbpp  2 роки тому +1

      As a former JKD practitioner myself, I thank you for the comment. BE A HARD TARGET

  • @jwgoon
    @jwgoon 4 роки тому

    Here in Singapore, we just had a recent case of a National Parks officer getting badly injured by a 61 year old knife wielding assailant. It was shocking to read how an elderly man with a knife could inflict that much damage to a younger man who didn't expect such a violent encounter (and all because the officer told him that he was illegally cutting grass and wasn't wearing a face mask due to the covid-19 pandemic requirements). Thankfully the officer survived. Your video is really great and informative on what knife attacks are like and how to survive one. Cheers.

    • @jimwagnerrbpp
      @jimwagnerrbpp  2 роки тому

      Thank you for this news report. Anyone who can hold a knife, or cut food, no matter what age, can be deadly. BE A HARD TARGET

  • @wadomannen
    @wadomannen 4 роки тому +4

    Thanks again for these videos Jim Wagner. Unfortunately, there are far too many unrealistic tips on self-defense against knife attacks. Often it is from people who never been in a dangerous situation.

    • @jimwagnerrbpp
      @jimwagnerrbpp  4 роки тому +4

      You're welcome. Having been attacked, a few times in my career as a soldier and police officer by edged weapons, I put out information that I knew was realistic. Unfortunately, as you mentioned, there are too many people teaching "unrealistic tips." Thank you for your comment. BE A HARD TARGET Jim

  • @CM-hr8ou
    @CM-hr8ou 10 років тому +12

    Finally a video on knife attacks where the instructor lives in reality! You will be cut, in any knife attack you WILL get cut. I'm sick of videos on here where some wierdo only does choreographed slow motion knife disarms. That shit will get somebody killed. Gr8 vid anyways.

  • @IzzoWingChun
    @IzzoWingChun 10 років тому +17

    Great video, Jim. All the best from Chicago. -Dominick Izzo

    • @jimwagnerrbpp
      @jimwagnerrbpp  10 років тому +5

      Thank you Dominick. Be A Hard Target.

  •  10 років тому

    Truly superb and informative video. Loads of practical training ideas and you take into account both attacker unpredictability and the fact that 99% of real people are going to have to go with their fight or flight response in this situation. I guess the big take-home message is that being attacked with a blade is a real crappy situation to be in and that there's no substitute for training training training to maximise your chance of survival. Thank you for sharing this on UA-cam.

  • @joeboo1983
    @joeboo1983 9 років тому +10

    Finally. A knife Defense system that might give a person a chance.

  • @KyranSparda
    @KyranSparda 10 років тому

    This video comes off as much more legit than any of those knife defense videos on youtube...

  • @troysmith4027
    @troysmith4027 10 років тому +6

    This seems an excellent training strategy for someone who has already had years of traiing learning all the "fancy" martial arts moves. You would need hundreds of hours of practice with formal traps, grabs and takedowns using a compliant partner before you can move to this more dynamic training. My first martial arts instructor told me you have to learn the alphabet before learning to read.

    • @jatbatman
      @jatbatman 5 років тому +1

      I disagree with your assertion of having to learn on a compliant opponent. To learn certain techniques maybe, but if you never test them at full force they'll do you no good. Are you going to ask an assailant to slow down their attack so you can do the steps you learned? It doesn't work that way. Lol
      Some of the best fighting training I've ever had was growing up with a little brother close in age. We fought hard even when it was for fun and we were running scenarios.
      Let me tell you getting a stick "knife" jabbed in you so hard it broke skin wasn't pleasant, but I learned not to let it happen again.

    • @kagfre8943
      @kagfre8943 4 роки тому

      U need hundreds of hours training b4 that training becomes instinct. In the meantime your opponent forgives training and buys a knife. What do you do?

  • @jimwagnerrbpp
    @jimwagnerrbpp  11 років тому +13

    17viris, you simulate a corner in training if you don't have a good solid corner to train in or a corner is too dangerous. For example, the typical traditional-based martial arts school may have mirrors in the corners. A SEAL team practicing on the deck of a ship in fresh air may not have a corner. There are many possible reasons, and thus my advice IF YOU DON'T HAVE A CORNER. I've trained Israeli soldiers on the sands of the MED and SpecOps teams in the jungles of South America, and you don't always have the training environment you'd like. I hope that explains it for you. Be A Hard Target.

    • @iSPELLinAMERICAN
      @iSPELLinAMERICAN 9 років тому

      Jim Wagner might I suggest coming to Camp Pendleton for a seminar of sorts. you said you are a southern cali police officer. camp Pendleton wouldn't be unrealistic. my area of camp has the marine recon and marsoc element too so it would be good group to learn.

    • @edcuni
      @edcuni 9 років тому +4

      Jim Wagner even it does nt look beautyfull that is the best way I have seen against a knife attack.all other videos with russian systema seem like slow ballet.a random knife attack from an angry criminall is very dificullt to deffent,although some heavy strike on pressure points could help somehow

    • @annoyed707
      @annoyed707 8 років тому +1

      Not just room corners, but counters and tables.

  • @BarterBales
    @BarterBales 10 років тому +2

    Great video, I appreciate how you incorporated "human instinct" in the movements.

  • @paulruprai1274
    @paulruprai1274 8 років тому

    Makes a lot of sense Jim. Martial arts training can be a BIG hazard against knives. I was messing around with my sister and she ended up sticking the knife through my hand and she has no experience with knives ... You are better to run and find a way out or put something between you and the knife ...preferably shield like or chair or stick or do what you do ...Love the advice you give ..

  • @danahaham
    @danahaham 6 років тому

    Yess Finally I found someone who brings quality realistic information from the field and not just slow movements that will lead to your death..I will keep follow your information you are great! greetings from Israel.

  • @shinobi7198
    @shinobi7198 7 років тому

    Hi jim ive done aikido & been studying combat jujitsu & we do a lot of knife defence, and i must give you some props"what your saying is so true ,in real life a knife attack is a lot more faster' in my dojo although its hard &fast 'everything is still pulled to some extent..

  • @shahriljamaludin2355
    @shahriljamaludin2355 7 років тому

    the best video of knife defense sir. even though I'm not a law enforcement officer, I'm just a guy with a judo background also learn a lot from this.

  • @nazagato
    @nazagato 6 років тому

    Jim Wagner, thanks for sharing this knowledge to all. I'm a police former from Argentina, and can say that all things views in this video, are really true! An attack with a knife is always brutal and unpredictable!!!

    • @jimwagnerrbpp
      @jimwagnerrbpp  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you for taking the time to write your comment. BE A HARD TARGET

  • @walterkiel552
    @walterkiel552 8 років тому +1

    Now this is practical.
    Thank you for this video!

  • @bae313
    @bae313 11 років тому +1

    I teach my students to take advantage of the reactionary gap by attacking a knife wielding threat before he starts to attack.
    This is advanced stuff that is more "martial artist" in nature, but is also still reality based, Boiled down, we grab and close simultaneously, then look to escape while delivering a nice parting gift if applicable.
    I also have a nice idea for a full contact training knife on my training knives video.

  • @ajturzak
    @ajturzak 10 років тому

    Ever since I watched this video, I train all the time for this type of stuff. I have a rubber knife and when my buddy comes over we spar and practice this technique for at least a couple hours every week. Thank you Jim Wagner.

    • @jimwagnerrbpp
      @jimwagnerrbpp  10 років тому

      AJ Turzak, I am happy to hear that you are testing out the techniques. That's the only way to learn what works and what does not. Be A Hard Target.

  • @MrOdsplut
    @MrOdsplut 2 роки тому +1

    This is the only realistic knife defence I've ever seen.

    • @jimwagnerrbpp
      @jimwagnerrbpp  2 роки тому

      THANK YOU GAMER_420 FOR THE POSITIVE FEEDBACK. Oh, and by the way, I worked for Blizzard Entertainment Global Security for several months to get their security team back on track. It was a really cool place to work at in Irvine, California. BE A HARD TARGET.

  • @SparkPproductions
    @SparkPproductions 10 років тому +1

    Great video. I've used a lot of your concepts and more in my self defense classes. Really appreciate the videos.

  • @vid4fun
    @vid4fun 11 років тому

    Thank you Jim for this very practical and realistic video guide.

  • @jimwagnerrbpp
    @jimwagnerrbpp  11 років тому +2

    Victor Weis, if the attacker changes hands or has two knives, which can happen, I address this in my Knife Survival and Knife Expert seminars. However, I will cover these two situations in the future with a new video. Great comment. Be A Hard Target.

  • @christopherchambers3976
    @christopherchambers3976 11 років тому

    Finally, a realistic video from someone with actual real world experience in using the tactics they're talking about. Great video!

    • @jimwagnerrbpp
      @jimwagnerrbpp  10 років тому

      Chris Chambers, thank you for your comment. Be A Hard Target.

  • @codereddefense
    @codereddefense 7 років тому +3

    Good tips... Thanks for the video.

  • @christalicable
    @christalicable 10 років тому +2

    This is all based on original FMA, Filipino Martial Arts, Aramis/Kali. It's incredible but completely understandable why the concept has taken off all over the world.

  • @AlphaDad
    @AlphaDad 11 років тому

    What I really like about the grab and hold onto the arm is how close the face is to the assailant. If you can't take him down, a bite to the arm or chest or even neck will end the attack or at least take the attackers will to continue.

  • @spartacus871
    @spartacus871 9 років тому +3

    Jim: You are an excellent trainer! When practicing with blades, please wear protective eyewear at all times! We want to see you in more videos minus an eye!

  • @martinbrand6652
    @martinbrand6652 10 років тому

    Much appreciate your posting, sir.
    Nothing or nobody is perfect.
    I've just got to keep practice it.

  • @HelloKevinWhite
    @HelloKevinWhite 8 років тому +1

    Excellent overview.

  • @ElseMush
    @ElseMush 11 років тому +1

    I like this material a lot, but I think it's worth saying that the traditional martial arts have their place alongside this. The 'attack me with a dagnal cut' type of training drills you in the movements that you can make. Jim has clearly had this kind of training and it shows in the way he moves. It's precisely because you don't have time to think that you need to have these movements as second nature. Then do your reality training to make it work.

  • @mikeyo1449
    @mikeyo1449 4 роки тому

    First instinct. Then training. Very practical. I have much more confidence in my survival instincts, than some choreographed scenario.

    • @jimwagnerrbpp
      @jimwagnerrbpp  2 роки тому

      Thanks for your comment. Stay safe and BE A HARD TARGET

  • @Mr2tails
    @Mr2tails 11 років тому

    Useful against people who don't know how to wield a knife;useless against people who know how to wield a knife.
    Knife usage drill 101: Cripple your opponents arms by unnerving and bleeding, so blocking and grabbing the knife hand will result in death or serious injuries.
    Working against the wall is a good knife counter drill. Thanks for the video.

  • @kevintaylor1162
    @kevintaylor1162 10 років тому +4

    Great video, finally someone who tells the truth about what will really happen.

  • @alexbianco2510
    @alexbianco2510 11 років тому

    Great training method! I will have to incorporate this into my training

    • @jimwagnerrbpp
      @jimwagnerrbpp  10 років тому +3

      Alex Bianco, that is good to hear. Keep it real. Be A Hard Target.

  • @defkai
    @defkai 10 років тому

    this is the real stuff indeed, i've been in afghanistan and some other countries, and let me tell you that all the fancy techniques you learn in all your traditonal martial arts dont work in real life, people are blinded by movie's and like to get some confidence out of it,then when the shit hits the fan it doesn't work..this is realistic and works.. good too see your still teaching jim, ive followed some of your seminars in holland like6-8 years ago and its still one the best and most realistic i've trained so far! keep up the good work! PM me if you are ever in holland again i might be able to set something up at my unit!

    • @jimwagnerrbpp
      @jimwagnerrbpp  10 років тому

      defkai, thank you for the comment. I'm glad the techniques and training methods have helped you, and support your warrior mentality. I should be in Holland in September or in 2015. Be A Hard Target.

    • @jimwagnerrbpp
      @jimwagnerrbpp  10 років тому

      John Goff, that is good to hear. It is great that you are testing everything to see if it will really work or not. Be A Hard Target.

  • @nickfoot3968
    @nickfoot3968 11 років тому

    Hi Jim was great training with you in the UK last year

  • @sifugreg6073
    @sifugreg6073 10 років тому

    Very nice work Mr Wagner I teach knife take aways but your right, if your going against someone that knows how to use a knife it's very hard to catch it I would like to practice and even teach some of the moves you are teaching thank you for posting the video

    • @jimwagnerrbpp
      @jimwagnerrbpp  10 років тому

      Sifu Greg, thank you for your comment, and I'm glad that you are trying out my techniques and training methods. Be A Hard Target.

  • @Mr.Coldfire421
    @Mr.Coldfire421 7 років тому

    Your tutorial is more realistic than anything I saw in youtube. In a real fight you cannot predict what will happen most of the time your body automatically response base on instinct and you don't have time to remember each stupid scripted steps that some stupid guy told you to do. I agreed that the best thing you can do is block the knife as fast as you can and not the steps that your not comfortable with.(such as those fancy movement like in a kung-fu movie).
    Thanks for your tutorial.

  • @williambarbahen6974
    @williambarbahen6974 10 років тому

    I see tons of armbars to finish u may not because excessive force but they and kelmoras are there to disable the arm great video!

  • @josuedepaz4282
    @josuedepaz4282 9 років тому

    Fantastic video, it deserves more views.

  • @saymyname3097
    @saymyname3097 4 роки тому

    Thank you Jim and Jeff, as a civilian this sounds good as a last resort. It's better to spend time on honing the reflexes to, grab, closely secure the arm and takedowns. Drills until it's in the muscle memory. Scary but practical. Thanks.

    • @jimwagnerrbpp
      @jimwagnerrbpp  2 роки тому

      You're welcome. That's right, just keep the training realistic. BE A HARD TARGET

  • @aprilrosesmile3837
    @aprilrosesmile3837 9 років тому

    Thank you for sharing and teaching self defense I really need this...

  • @TheBorderlineBlues
    @TheBorderlineBlues 12 років тому

    I really enjoy your reality based training. Thanks for all the videos.

  • @pwinn338
    @pwinn338 11 років тому

    Learn a lot from your video thanks. Its correct in what you said but two things I would like to add firstly the attacker has two arms so he would use his empty hand to distract you. Secondly, if you move to his blind side then you can do all what you said without getting caught. Yes close in but stay out on the blind side if you can so you can get out and escape! Very realistic training though. No right or wrong way to defense against a knife. I likei what you point about knife disarm :)

  • @Toophless1
    @Toophless1 10 років тому

    Excellent video. Thanks guy

  • @danielyoung633
    @danielyoung633 6 років тому

    I pulled off a textbook disarm 15 years ago and I still got cut, he's bang on.

  • @samriding6094
    @samriding6094 10 років тому

    Thanks a million for this, the other videos on knife disarming are far from legitimate. It's just like you said, there's no time for the fancy moves in real life.

  • @ResistingArrest
    @ResistingArrest 10 років тому

    Thanks for posting this!

  • @ParkourEh
    @ParkourEh 11 років тому

    What you said about compliant, training partners "posing" during training is true and I agree. With that being said, I'm not sure I understand the criticism against specific angles and the necessity of using full force only in training (at least, that's what I understand from the video).
    Training with predefined angles and at a slower pace is for developing the proper movements for muscle memory. There are okay ways of controlling a limb, and there are better ways. Anything can happen in the real encounter and improvising is a highly important, but training should be about what to do "best". i.e. it's for turning less effective instincts into educated reflexes. Full-force has its place as the trainees are decently competent with the techniques at a slower pace.

    • @bae313
      @bae313 11 років тому

      Good points, but what has taken modern karate out of the reality training realm is the unrealistic search for perfection. You just aren't gonna get it in a real fight unless one man grossly outclasses the other. You have to focus on what is gonna happen when "Murphy" shows up.
      That being said, you must also realize that this type of training is more "seminar" in nature. It focuses on the down and dirty minimum requirements.
      If you have a more dedicated student then you can spend more time spoon feeding the basics and build to the full contact levels. That is how my channel's free "Slasher Course" trains the student to knife fight.

  • @SundownTE
    @SundownTE 11 років тому

    This is pretty decent material.

  • @Aurumk1
    @Aurumk1 9 років тому +15

    What happens if he is smart, and when you grab his knife hand he simply punches you with his open hand? Gotta keep your shoulder up.

    • @scarfholdgraphicsmedia9501
      @scarfholdgraphicsmedia9501 4 роки тому +3

      Generally, when someone has a weapon, their focus tends to stay on the weapon.

    • @stephendefferari1559
      @stephendefferari1559 4 роки тому

      As he said, it's an unpredictable situation, and there could be variables where it would simply be a better idea to flee or retreat. What if it's a really big knife? Obviously closing the gap makes that a little more tricky then.

    • @scarfholdgraphicsmedia9501
      @scarfholdgraphicsmedia9501 4 роки тому

      @@stephendefferari1559 Fleeing and retreating... OK. So you run but you still have a dude on your tail with a knife. Retreating is wrong because you will take the full force of the blade. Deal with the attacker, not the weapon.

  • @cous1961
    @cous1961 11 років тому

    We use to use traditional knife defense and then we moved to Filipino knife defense. But from now on we will use this system because it works, and u don't have to think.

  • @Edsel0201
    @Edsel0201 8 років тому

    4:33 This is how a knife thrust should be delivered in training! This tall guy is the ideal partner for whoever would want to learn how to effectively defend himself from a knife attack.

  • @trevspeaks3
    @trevspeaks3 10 років тому

    Having someone come at you from predetermined angles is more about seeing it happen so often that when it happens you Dont have to see it so much rather just instinctively react . muscle memory. Not sure why u can't see how that helps. I took Kali for a few years. What I've learned in just over a decade of training kali has helped me as a bouncer in club fights evolving knives broken bottles sticks and or chair legs. I was also in a street fight resulting from an idiot with road rage recently. His wife gave him a pocket knife. Took that from him with ease. My traditional training worked for me.

  • @demonicjedi
    @demonicjedi 10 років тому

    Great video, you should allways expect to get cut in a knife fight but you have to try and run or grab and control if you cant

  • @jimwagnerrbpp
    @jimwagnerrbpp  11 років тому +1

    basketgoal321, if you don't have the stamina to run away then you had better "stop" the attacker somehow, and as Tarquin Ogilvie stated, "oblique kick, headbutt, knee stomp, etc." Be A Hard Target.

  • @enriquelucero7053
    @enriquelucero7053 9 років тому

    Thank you so much sir for this video...I learned something and I will based my future trainings from this.

  • @mariorauldelapena2052
    @mariorauldelapena2052 4 роки тому

    Excelentes lecciones. Buen Trabajo!!! Bendiciones Jim Wagner!!!!

    • @jimwagnerrbpp
      @jimwagnerrbpp  2 роки тому +1

      De nada. Me alegra que te guste la información. Jim.

    • @mariorauldelapena2052
      @mariorauldelapena2052 2 роки тому

      @@jimwagnerrbpp Tengo sus videos más antiguos, admiro y respeto mucho su trabajo. Dios lo bendiga.

  • @markgraham4732
    @markgraham4732 5 років тому +1

    Very good...

  • @bromsponestveen5474
    @bromsponestveen5474 11 років тому

    Best video about the subject!

  • @stefanbornhoft2258
    @stefanbornhoft2258 3 роки тому

    Perfectly right. Thank you

  • @ugolema
    @ugolema 9 років тому

    Defending against a knife attack in these ways will earn you a place in an Intensive Therapy Dept for sure, in the best case scenario...

  • @forbeswinthrop153
    @forbeswinthrop153 10 років тому +1

    Jim,
    Thanks for the material. How sure are you of your advice to flee if you get the knifeman down? I agree if someone has no ground skills that to flee makes sense. But if someone has decent ground skills, it wouldn't make sense to me to give up a dominant position (side mount or mount) to then flee and thereby give the knifeman an opportunity to recounter by chasing you with the knife.

  • @the_ninja_piggy7020
    @the_ninja_piggy7020 8 років тому

    Very good video