Justin's Honda is easily the best I've ever seen. All the Honda's that made it deep into tournaments stop playing like Honda for fear of being exposed. Justin suffers from no such delusions and embrace the Hondaness. This was great!
@cube22111 this is my friends first sf game coming in as an mk player, and he made master rank with honda in the first month of release. The character is definitely scrubby. He gets autospacing through headbutt. His standing medium punch is plus and cancellable, he gets mad corner carry and his buttslam is plus. People always say just perfect parry his headbutt until they start doing the short version and grabbing you out of parrys. Also you cannot DI on reaction because Honda will recover fast enough after headbutt to di you back so you have to do it on reads which is super risky.
I’m not a Honda main (he’s my 5th most played character), but going full degenerate with him is one of the most fun things you can doing in this game. You haven’t lived till you make someone rage quit my spamming butt slam and the occasional jab.
Honda needs exactly one nerf to headbutt, *maybe* two to slam but I think that one can be dealt with easier. The thing is, headbutt can be reasonably dealt with starting at about high platinum to early diamond. However, that’s less than a quarter of the playerbase, and the other three quarters lose to solo headbutt spam.
@@BoltTheEmolga so because bad players can’t deal with the character he needs to get nerfed? I’m every fighting game there are the “Gatekeepers” that newer or bad players lose to. Those characters more often than not are bottom tier. Honda is one of those bottom tier characters. If his headbutt or buttslam gets nerfed they need to buff his hands to make them plus on block. But then that’s a problem. Honda has no grime outside of having 2 strong moves that are also the 2 most perfect parried moves in the game. He needs no needs and instead needs buffs. I don’t care what new/bad players lose to because that in fact doesn’t matter. It’s a hurdle and they will get over it and if they can’t deal with headbutt then how are they going to deal with Ken, Juri, Deejay, Blanka, JP? Those characters have 3-47 options at all times and Honda has headbutt.
@@MrMastermelo15Bro decided to come with facts. This is so true man! I dont know hy people do these kind if things. I thibk they dont even play game that much to know about a character well enough to comment about it. They just watch youtubers having fun/getting rage by some characters and go like " this need sa nerf, this needs a buff" etc. They need to stop doing that
I've also mained him since the original game and agree with you. best version since MVC2 where he was really good. I've beaten people with nothing but headbutt and I've played people who perfect parried every headbutt and butt slam I threw at them. just learn to perfect parry and it almost shuts him completely down.
I'd rather people get buffed rather than nerfed. Zangief, lily, jamie, and maybe ryu need buffs. I'd like to see clothesline hit on both sides for gief. Even just that should help out.
Honda is a tough character, no doubt, and if one is an old school SF like yourself, then you're not a scrub, you're just experienced with years of the game. I have a bunch of experience with years, but need to learn better the new defensive strategies and new character tactics. I'm thinking who I want to try and push to master status, maybe a few characters.
Defense is holding me back from master too.. my offense is tight except for a couple issues but put me in the corner and I crumble. At least we know what we have to work on
@@mattynigma my all around will improve with more practice, but the game design lacks more defensive counters. One can counter rave but good master players respond back with a counter almost magically...like how'd you read that or why is the functionality that crisp in countering there but in endless combos there is no defensive breakage of non stop flurries. It's a lacking element in design defensive countering. It focuses more on offense and art like a sexy looking hack & slash which technique is dry in gameplay. That bores me, so I'll continue to play it like something simmering on the back burner, but not give too much attention to it. Gameplay design needs to be more technical in such a competitive game.
Honda is absolute middle of the pack at best, people are just mad that he's not literally useless. The only thing that needs to happen is for people to actually learn match-ups lmao
It's not about him being top or middle, a character relying solely on a spamable move is not healthy for the game. And yes, we know you can punish it with DP/Super or a perfect parry... but it should be punishable even on block by any EX moves that moves you forward, like in SFIV.
If Honda gets nerfed, he won't have anything. The rest of his kit is shit because headbutt and buttslam are good. If they nerf those two moves, they need to buff some of his normals.
Y'all need to leave Honda alone. Everyone complaining about him being decent for once was not playing him in SF2, SFA3, CvS, SF4, or SF5. Let us Honda mains have our moment in the sun. It's been a long time coming.
@@kermitgotthesickkicks4265 yes there are. He is not the most broken character by a long shot. He is just poorly thought out and abusable like Lily and Blanka.
Thank you 🙏 We know Justin has some influence in the gaming styles lol don't nerf Honda.. if you nerf Honda, Gief, T Hawk, and Dhlasim which are B tier at best(you let others like Chung Li, Ken, Sakura, Blanka,Charlie, Habasa etc run rampart) Honda is balanced #Honda4orDaWynn
I can't even link H into Sumo Headbutt, yet here comes J. Wong showing us all the tricks. (Why are charge characters so dang hard to play/do combo trials for?!)
As a Honda main I would like to add to the pot and continue to be a menace to everyone online. I DO NOT CARE FOR ANY OF YALL ESPECIALLY MARISA AND MANON MAINS LMAO
Honda's recovery don't need to be that fast or good. At no point should cheesing the headbutt and buttslam be effective in any way, you should have to plan a little bit before throwin out moves
The reason that last star is hard to get… is because Honda has to actually work harder than everyone else. Like not actually everyone else but the mid tier and up characters. Honda doesn’t have the no slime like others man. We are just a couple Honest douskoi enjoyers playing a difficult game. Summary: Everyone in diamond 3 and above parries Honda. Our best tools get removed from the game and we are only left with stand MP.
I can't imagine whoever is in charge of this choice ever seeing this but would you ever consider not naming every video with words like 'broken' 'needs to be nerfed' etc? I don't think everyone knows you're joking and it kind of sucks how much people balance whine anyway, I don't think this helps. I realize it's not your job, but we're a community and all I can do is express this wish. this is the 'pick a top tier' community, not the 'call everything broken so nothing is your fault' community. and i KNOW it's usually the character justin is playing, so he's clearly not complaining in fact you could argue he's doing the opposite... but I don't think much of the 'community' reads it properly. just a humble request.
Honda feels broken when I play against him but that probably has a lot to do with my lack of match up knowledge. I don't play him so I defer to you on whether or not he needs nerfed.
After playing honda for a while I can say he isn't broken at all, just a really annoying match up for the defender. But once you meet someone that knows how to deal with Honda's usual bs, suddenly he's not very good. It's also a myth that you need perfect parry /DI to beat his moves. If you have a DP, you're golden. Jump back air normals also work really well against random headbutt in neutral. And once you're up close to Honda he can't do anything except jab or EX headbutt, which is beaten by throws and -20 on block
I mean, I might be a lil binch for sayin this, but if I saw any of Justin's handles come up playing matches in any game, I probably just gonna nope right outta that sheet. It's not that I don't stand a chance, I just really dont think I would stand a chance. Real talks.
Honda players are absolutely brain dead. The reason why everyone complain about him is just because he got two sooooo good moves, that no one uses everything else. I’m on mid diamond and never have seen Honda playing other strategy than spamming headbutt and buttslam for a luck - if you hit, you can go on, if you missed also it’s okay because no one punishes you. Match against Honda in sf6 has nothing to do with fighting games, it’s more arcade where you’re trying to catch a flying balloon with dp or pp.
Just have to say, your editing is great, perfect with (math graf) and soundeffect's yea today I become concuisnes and I learn something, here I am and, daaaaaam mark my words, at one day I become sucessfull with youtube, whatewer that's mean I think 🤔 😂
I don't understand why justin is fighting down Honda so much for, justin your saying that he should be nerfed if so you should prove it, enter a major tournament with him and win, then I'll agree with you on this one
Justin's Honda is easily the best I've ever seen. All the Honda's that made it deep into tournaments stop playing like Honda for fear of being exposed. Justin suffers from no such delusions and embrace the Hondaness. This was great!
Best you’ve seen? He’s definitely not the best I’ve seen. Still good enough for Master rank though! Fun video!!
Lol what another fangirl scrub.This Honda will not be even top 20 in the world
Would love to see Justin play against Daigo's Honda!
Justin looks like Honda
Honda is the character that everyone complains about and no one actually plays.
I don’t get it…. I’m a Honda main and I come across people that whoop my ass. Then I watch people play like this and win. I guess I think too much.
It’s called 20 years of honed fundamentals bro lmao
Justin has to many years of exp. But youre right. DONT THINK TO much while playing SF :D
@cube22111 this is my friends first sf game coming in as an mk player, and he made master rank with honda in the first month of release. The character is definitely scrubby. He gets autospacing through headbutt. His standing medium punch is plus and cancellable, he gets mad corner carry and his buttslam is plus. People always say just perfect parry his headbutt until they start doing the short version and grabbing you out of parrys. Also you cannot DI on reaction because Honda will recover fast enough after headbutt to di you back so you have to do it on reads which is super risky.
Would be interesting to see the full list of times to reach master with each character 🤔
I’m not a Honda main (he’s my 5th most played character), but going full degenerate with him is one of the most fun things you can doing in this game. You haven’t lived till you make someone rage quit my spamming butt slam and the occasional jab.
Never utter the titles words again. Hes perfect in every way
Exactly #HondaForTheWin 🤣💯
Bro content creators trying influence the devs lol Im with you !!! LET HONDA BREATH LMAO
Yeah he doesn't need any nerfe based on tournament results
You may not like it but this is what peak performance looks like
It's just to get engagement, he doesn't really think that but the average noob player does
6:07 imagine be about to rank up and and then Justing Wong is your next opponent
The most fun part about playing Honda is ALWAYS putting your opponent into burnout. Sometimes twice per round. He's a burnout monster
If the enemy can't parry, definitely
Honda needs the nerf when Ken is standing right there?
Ken needs a mayor buffs bro, is too weak.
@@SuperiorParkerI know this is bait but even the bait gave me a fucking aneurysm. Please stop that.
Honda needs exactly one nerf to headbutt, *maybe* two to slam but I think that one can be dealt with easier.
The thing is, headbutt can be reasonably dealt with starting at about high platinum to early diamond. However, that’s less than a quarter of the playerbase, and the other three quarters lose to solo headbutt spam.
@@BoltTheEmolga so because bad players can’t deal with the character he needs to get nerfed? I’m every fighting game there are the “Gatekeepers” that newer or bad players lose to. Those characters more often than not are bottom tier. Honda is one of those bottom tier characters. If his headbutt or buttslam gets nerfed they need to buff his hands to make them plus on block. But then that’s a problem. Honda has no grime outside of having 2 strong moves that are also the 2 most perfect parried moves in the game. He needs no needs and instead needs buffs. I don’t care what new/bad players lose to because that in fact doesn’t matter. It’s a hurdle and they will get over it and if they can’t deal with headbutt then how are they going to deal with Ken, Juri, Deejay, Blanka, JP? Those characters have 3-47 options at all times and Honda has headbutt.
@@MrMastermelo15Bro decided to come with facts. This is so true man! I dont know hy people do these kind if things. I thibk they dont even play game that much to know about a character well enough to comment about it. They just watch youtubers having fun/getting rage by some characters and go like " this need sa nerf, this needs a buff" etc. They need to stop doing that
I've mained Honda since SF2 hyper fighting, and this is his best iteration by far imo. He's so much fun to play.
Yeah, and ppl bitch for nerfs.. -.-
I've also mained him since the original game and agree with you. best version since MVC2 where he was really good. I've beaten people with nothing but headbutt and I've played people who perfect parried every headbutt and butt slam I threw at them. just learn to perfect parry and it almost shuts him completely down.
@@ShawnShankso you’re saying if you want to beat Honda, have pro gamer like skills . Guess that means GG for me 😅😂
@@problemsnearyou8899 nah. I've been perfect parried by diamond ranked people that kicked my butt lol
@@ShawnShank perfect parry is difficult for me but maybe with time
I'd rather people get buffed rather than nerfed. Zangief, lily, jamie, and maybe ryu need buffs. I'd like to see clothesline hit on both sides for gief. Even just that should help out.
It's easier to balance nerfing one character than buffing 5
Honda is a tough character, no doubt, and if one is an old school SF like yourself, then you're not a scrub, you're just experienced with years of the game. I have a bunch of experience with years, but need to learn better the new defensive strategies and new character tactics. I'm thinking who I want to try and push to master status, maybe a few characters.
Defense is holding me back from master too.. my offense is tight except for a couple issues but put me in the corner and I crumble. At least we know what we have to work on
@@mattynigma my all around will improve with more practice, but the game design lacks more defensive counters. One can counter rave but good master players respond back with a counter almost magically...like how'd you read that or why is the functionality that crisp in countering there but in endless combos there is no defensive breakage of non stop flurries. It's a lacking element in design defensive countering. It focuses more on offense and art like a sexy looking hack & slash which technique is dry in gameplay. That bores me, so I'll continue to play it like something simmering on the back burner, but not give too much attention to it. Gameplay design needs to be more technical in such a competitive game.
Total time counter is a cool addition and I hope to keep seeing it moving forward
I've been playing Honda and seeing you beat Luke was sooo satisfying! His rushdown is so anxiety inducing. I forget how to play lol
Honda is the perfect for the
NINJA 🐢 TURTLE skin 😅
Honda is absolute middle of the pack at best, people are just mad that he's not literally useless. The only thing that needs to happen is for people to actually learn match-ups lmao
Exactly 💯🤣 thank you for that perfect assessment
^^
Exactly.
It's not about him being top or middle, a character relying solely on a spamable move is not healthy for the game. And yes, we know you can punish it with DP/Super or a perfect parry... but it should be punishable even on block by any EX moves that moves you forward, like in SFIV.
@mrkatamari8107 Definitely not, nor can you win with just headbutt. Winning with Honda takes more skill than winning with Ken.
15:00 the DI hit synced with the subscribe gif was superb
The repeated headbutts reminded me of the kid you made rage quit and call you a cheater in MK X. Welcome to the real world lol.
Was he played in Top 6 at Evo?
Top 10 at best 😅
Highest placement at EVO for Honda was 129th
@@alvl88pikachuhe won't that this year lol maybe top 100
If Honda gets nerfed, he won't have anything. The rest of his kit is shit because headbutt and buttslam are good. If they nerf those two moves, they need to buff some of his normals.
the length of the "dosukoi" kiai is related to if it's done with lp, mp or hp?
If you main Ken, Manon, JP, Blanka, or Marisa you automatically lose your privileges to complain about Honda 😄
Manon? She sucks bro lmao
Why Manon?
@@HmmHrmHarumphbro forgot the game had a jump button. Hold jump and Manon's gameplan falls apart.
*everytime when misses the monkey sound🙏🤣In general, the noises are so dry, I find it super funny, especially when you're kidding yourself*
Hmm isn t that headbutt flying weak to hadoken or a well timed dragon punch?
“That’s cool… I can water you” made my whole day
Some wonderful editing in this video. Big smiles on my face : )
Y'all need to leave Honda alone. Everyone complaining about him being decent for once was not playing him in SF2, SFA3, CvS, SF4, or SF5. Let us Honda mains have our moment in the sun. It's been a long time coming.
Thank you #HondaMain #HondaStans4life
THANK YOU FOR SPITTIN FACTS.
Honda was very strong at Super Sf4 and Sf2. He wasn't that dumb though.
@@brunocampos7199 And there's still so many characters that are better than him in 6. Ken especially.
@@kermitgotthesickkicks4265 yes there are. He is not the most broken character by a long shot. He is just poorly thought out and abusable like Lily and Blanka.
I never been great at combo's this is why i like sf6 so much common sense and footies can take you to the top 😂
Honda is at best mid tier. He's just a scrub killer. Please don't ask for nerfs :/
If anything the entire cast should be buffed up to Ken/JP status.
Thank you 🙏
We know Justin has some influence in the gaming styles lol don't nerf Honda.. if you nerf Honda, Gief, T Hawk, and Dhlasim which are B tier at best(you let others like Chung Li, Ken, Sakura, Blanka,Charlie, Habasa etc run rampart)
Honda is balanced #Honda4orDaWynn
Honda main yikes
@@festibaru scrub..yikes
@@alvl88pikachutell em 🤣😂💯 👍
@@festibaru Damn bro I didn't know you we're a scrub like that.
I can't even link H into Sumo Headbutt, yet here comes J. Wong showing us all the tricks.
(Why are charge characters so dang hard to play/do combo trials for?!)
What's better... DI or Focus Attack?
These sound effects, man. 😂😂😂😂
W editor.
HEADBUTT IN NEUTRAL
😅 don't let others know that, dammit lol
Headbutt is the only neutral posible.
Time to Sumo Gang rise up by Sumo Wong.
this game is so awesome no one needs nerfs but some need buffs
who needs buffs?
@@osmancey8974 zangief
@@osmancey8974Zangief, Lily, Manon
@@Sol-De-Invierno you must be kidding 🥲
@@osmancey8974Rank up and you'll understand
I don't see to many Honda's but when I do I got into DP mode 🤷🏿
you dont one and done hondas in this game. you straight up ban them.
As a Honda main I would like to add to the pot and continue to be a menace to everyone online. I DO NOT CARE FOR ANY OF YALL ESPECIALLY MARISA AND MANON MAINS LMAO
Marisa is a scrub #HondaHeadbutt her into submission lol
Marisa seems like such a problem for our boy, I’d rather fight any high tier
Honda's recovery don't need to be that fast or good. At no point should cheesing the headbutt and buttslam be effective in any way, you should have to plan a little bit before throwin out moves
A phrase I never thought I’d hear after 30 years of playing SF.
"...and It felt great.." i ser you Justin ... Thats some toxic hapiness😂
I love the honda needs a nerf click bait plus the whole basically saying he is braindead/easy talk in there. Yet we have cammy and ken.
"Praise the sun"🤣👌
imagine being justin wong's kid
Let the sumo have it. Please Capcom do not nerf. It is his time.
Dude! You guys say nothing about Marisa's damage but you call for Honda nerfs. GTFO
Marisa is the Abigail 2.0
Agreed That bis kills you in just two proper combos.
@@kermitgotthesickkicks4265they don’t even have to be proper to combos to take 50% away Lmao
That’s absolutely hilarious. As a Honda main my prime sub came through right at the end of the vid 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I guess this was quicker than Rashid master run, and Rashid had the glitch at that time.
Hate Honda. Comprehend Honda. Become Honda.
that zoom in of the life bar 🤣🤣
You got Honda Nerfed 😅😅
CerebralParsley is such a great name
Got a Honda car ad at the start. Nice.
I was expecting honest Modern Honda shinanigans. 😂
I've been in diamond 5 for like 2 weeks with Honda lol.
It's been tough to get that last star.
The reason that last star is hard to get… is because Honda has to actually work harder than everyone else. Like not actually everyone else but the mid tier and up characters. Honda doesn’t have the no slime like others man. We are just a couple Honest douskoi enjoyers playing a difficult game.
Summary: Everyone in diamond 3 and above parries Honda. Our best tools get removed from the game and we are only left with stand MP.
@@MrMastermelo15You're right about the amount of parries in high diamond. If they smell any type of rhythm You going to get hit with a PP 😅.
That damn pokémon song, bro...
Thank you ♥️
That's gotta be Hondaminator 😂😂
You know it's Honda and you can't stop it.
They can nerf butt slam/headbutt but they better buff the rest of him bc besides that he is lacking
Don't tell DSP
I can't imagine whoever is in charge of this choice ever seeing this
but would you ever consider not naming every video with words like 'broken' 'needs to be nerfed' etc? I don't think everyone knows you're joking and it kind of sucks how much people balance whine anyway, I don't think this helps. I realize it's not your job, but we're a community and all I can do is express this wish.
this is the 'pick a top tier' community, not the 'call everything broken so nothing is your fault' community. and i KNOW it's usually the character justin is playing, so he's clearly not complaining in fact you could argue he's doing the opposite... but I don't think much of the 'community' reads it properly.
just a humble request.
That headbutt needs a nerf lol like the recovery and how much its put them back as well as full screen is ridiculous
I wonder what I'd have to do to have a practice session with Justin? I need to level up my Dhalsim T^T
Gotta take time out to water the Harpers.
Justin, you got me crackin' up laughin' by wanting a B-Tier at best nerfed 🤣🤣🤣🤣💯
Honda feels broken when I play against him but that probably has a lot to do with my lack of match up knowledge. I don't play him so I defer to you on whether or not he needs nerfed.
After playing honda for a while I can say he isn't broken at all, just a really annoying match up for the defender. But once you meet someone that knows how to deal with Honda's usual bs, suddenly he's not very good.
It's also a myth that you need perfect parry /DI to beat his moves. If you have a DP, you're golden. Jump back air normals also work really well against random headbutt in neutral. And once you're up close to Honda he can't do anything except jab or EX headbutt, which is beaten by throws and -20 on block
@@TheGuyNamedHenryG useful information. Thank you.
i love justin wong but ireally wanted to see a high master mmr climb
Us new players need OP crutches too!!
Your Honda is incredible
🎉🎉🎉🎉
dude your the nate gibson of fighting games
Let him first win a tournament then we can discuss IF he really needs a nerf
oicho after a blocked jumping hk, no, honda doesn't need nerfs, he needs buffs lol
when the MM you (modern zangief) vs LTG
nice work Justin btw i need anotehr dj vid bro XD
I mean, I might be a lil binch for sayin this, but if I saw any of Justin's handles come up playing matches in any game, I probably just gonna nope right outta that sheet. It's not that I don't stand a chance, I just really dont think I would stand a chance. Real talks.
Not when DSP plays him
The honda defenders in the comments are funny
Ur dalsihm was super cool u should play him sometimes
❤ E Honda and Jimmy San Blanka
Felt great! My best friend Stryfeno1 is a good Honda player too.. I play him but not as much as he does.. but goodness he is cheeeeesy lol!
Honda players are absolutely brain dead. The reason why everyone complain about him is just because he got two sooooo good moves, that no one uses everything else. I’m on mid diamond and never have seen Honda playing other strategy than spamming headbutt and buttslam for a luck - if you hit, you can go on, if you missed also it’s okay because no one punishes you. Match against Honda in sf6 has nothing to do with fighting games, it’s more arcade where you’re trying to catch a flying balloon with dp or pp.
That drive burn on Ryu at the start of the video was kinda lame. He's not a top tier character and also burns meter quick like that.
Does this Honda even play street fighter lol. Checking drive rush with heavy punch and head butts was crazy
Great matches my guy
I play honda like a grappler and no one sees it coming.
Yeah, I use cmd grab alot also, catches people out
Honda is a chucky e cheese character 😂😂
His risk reward is leaning way morre towards reward.
Honda is good!! However I’ve found just head butting and butt stomping can get you so far.
Justin wong needs to be nerfed.
Praise the sun 😂😂😂😂.
Just have to say, your editing is great, perfect with (math graf) and soundeffect's yea today I become concuisnes and I learn something, here I am and, daaaaaam mark my words, at one day I become sucessfull with youtube, whatewer that's mean I think 🤔 😂
proof it
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make it to minute 3.0 its something
Dsp would disagree with the title of this video. 😂
1000 LBS OF PRESSURE PER SLAP!!!😡
I don't understand why justin is fighting down Honda so much for, justin your saying that he should be nerfed if so you should prove it, enter a major tournament with him and win, then I'll agree with you on this one
Im a diamond 1 player at best...honda is the only character i get rage quits by my opponents
Sagat is going to be a problem if they put him in this game.
Pls no
Vanilla SF4 PTSD is a real thing, I’ve already been victimized once
I don't like Honda and I'm not asking for anything...but if Honda got nerfed you won't hear me complaining
honda requires more headbutts, buttslams and oichos and less thinking lol
Nice video!
Highly entertaining 😂🤣😂